Ronna Resigns + the RNC's Urgent Game of Catch-Up

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Hey, Charlie. How are we doing? So it is official this morning. Well, not yet official.

What is this? Why is she taken till March 8th? This is like John McCain funeral length. So this is all just more of like how the function is, right, which is that the RNC has a training meeting, which is like a meeting where all the members have to get together to vote. Is it actually a training?

I mean, we don't have to get to, we're not going to have a ton of training this time around. Let's put it that way. This entire meeting is going to be in Houston, which is where they already have set up the next convention in 2028. You got to explain that one to me. What is going on with all that? It's the weirdest thing. So normally they don't plan conventions out this early, but because, I mean, it takes a long time to get cities to bid and a lot of cities are run by Democrats.

They don't like Republicans. You know, they made the argument that they wanted to pick a city. I think Houston is probably a good place for 2028 because Texas is going to be under fire, you know, a little bit. I hope not. Let's not speak that into existence.

Well, I'm not. I'm just saying just like we know Houston is like the Detroit, it's like the Philadelphia of Texas. I actually like Houston.

It's a mess. No, but Democrats want to take advantage of it. That's where you're going to lose the state.

That's where you're going to lose. So you guys are going to Houston in a couple of weeks. So they wanted to lock up a lot of different things. But this is the most important thing, which is now because Ronna said she said she was officially going to step down after the Carolina primary. And she did. She did that this morning.

And so now March, that first week of March is when we're going to be in Houston for this training meeting. But now vote for a new chair and a co-chair will happen. And so Trump is signaled who he supports. I think that that's going to move.

I mean, we're moving the ball down the field here. We love Laura. Laura, we've been big supporters.

You've been a huge support in suggesting that Laura would be a great leader within the RNC. She can raise money. She's great in comms.

She listens. She came on this show and said all the good things. Laura's 10 out of 10.

Yeah. I think I'm talking to a reporter about her today just singing her praises. She's great.

She's going to be great. So this meeting now is basically the official perfunctory way to replace Ronna. And so I'm sure it'll be this whole thing of like, well, we love Ronna and she did such a good job. Because remember, these are all Ronna's voters that are still in the RNC. And this is the most critical part. Over the next three months, and part of the reason why I believe that they're doing this now, the next three months, elections are going to happen in all the states for new members for the RNC. This only happens once every four years.

So the vast majority of the votes that are on the RNC, the people who elected Ronna to begin with, that didn't listen last January. And Dana Point, California. And Dana Point. Yeah. These are when we elect all these people. And so if you're in your state and you're like, I don't know what's going on, I don't know who is running, we can help with that. Turning Point's team has been I mean, I think we're the only group in America that's ever focused. And that's tpaction.com.

Is that the launching off point? tpaction.com slash endorsements. You can see the people we vetted and endorsed for the RNC races. There's some really great people, Matt Brown in Washington. Wonderful guy, Regina, that's in Oregon.

We have some wonderful Debbie that's in Texas. There's there are some really good upgrades that we can make. But you can't you have to remember this is just the beginning of the battle because next January is when the elections will happen again for RNC leadership. Yeah.

And who knows what that's going to be like? Well, and the historical precedence has been that if we have the presidency, the president kind of picks. But again, the president can only pick from the pool that he has to work with.

Right. In the 168, essentially. Basically, I mean, the history of this has been the 168 is who tees up the president. So if the 168 is really, really bad, he has fewer options to pick from. If the 168 is really, really good, then the president is going to have like an ultra mega person that he can pick from that is like right in his camp. Part of how we got here with Rana because everybody asks is, you know, well, he had very few people to work with when he in 2016.

That's right. We have a video. This is Rana's entrance to the RNC meeting in Houston.

Play cut 14. I don't think when they filmed the laden, they spent as much on flowers as the RNC has. So so I failed to mention to Bob McEwen, Ohio. He's amazing. Wonderful. But yeah, I mean, we have that's what is going to be like probably Houston. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's going to be like make way.

Rana is here. You know, they're going to get standing ovation. It's going to be this whole thing like clapping and applauding.

I'm sure videos. Oh, no, they're going to bring up the ostracists. You know, they're going to do the whole thing. They're going to do it.

This is barely new. This is the tough part, too, which is that the new leadership has to paint a vision for what's going to happen next. You know, Michael Watley did the right thing. He came down here. We sat down and had a good meeting. He came here. He flew all the way here, spent his time here.

The majority of a full day down at Turning Point headquarters. We walked through all the things, the data that's necessary in order to win Arizona. We focused on election integrity that has to happen in Georgia. And here's the part of the problem. The preexisting leadership within the RNC wants to spend about one fifth or one tenth, maybe one twentieth of what's needed to win these election integrity battles. Yep.

And we sat across from Michael Watley. We've talked to Laura and had these conversations with just like, you need 15 to 20 million dollars to fight these election integrity battles in each of these states because you're talking about, you know, 20, 30 lawsuits to fight Mark Elias and co., not two or three. Right.

Like you're talking 20 or 30. And each of these lawsuits is has the functional cost of 150 to 300 thousand dollars. So most people, again, if you're listening to this, like you just don't realize the ultimate cost. And this is we have a lot of conservative activists here in Arizona that functionally don't understand this cost. And it's like Arizona has never seen that kind of money invested into it on any level, on any level. Right.

Like at all. And so there's been no race that's been that expensive. This will be the most money ever spent in Arizona and Georgia ever. And we're probably going to have World War Three in Wisconsin as we've been talking about. Yeah.

And we're going to talk about Wisconsin as we go. So is there any I mean, is there any chance that Trump's slate doesn't win? It seems it's almost it's inevitable at this point. I hope actually at this point, everybody can come together and support unanimous. Yeah. And make it, you know, and support, you know, this new leadership change with Laura.

I think Laura's gonna be fantastic. I just want to give a lot of credit to Drew McKissick, who's been extraordinarily graceful in this entire thing because this wasn't his fault. Who's Drew again?

Drew is the current co-chair of the chairman of South Carolina. He's actually been he got caught. He got caught in this whole thing. Yeah, I mean, because he ran as co-chair one, actually beat Michael Watley a year ago. And he, you know, he's not, yeah, he's been talking to and listening to conservatives on the RNC more than anybody. And so he just deserves a ton of credit because he's just gracefully just going, you know, this is, you know, what the boss wants, you know, that's probably going to be the best.

But, you know, I hope they find a good place for him. And he can continue to work with and listen to conservatives because that's been a good development along this way. A couple of other things that popped up on the RNC's radar, which are some kind of just really nasty anti-Trump potential resolutions that are popping up. Yeah, just some really nasty stuff about, you know, waiting to name Trump the nominee until he gets enough of the delegates.

And guys, I don't know if you just saw South Carolina. He won every delegate. Nikki Haley's hometown didn't like her, like they rejected her. So like, it's like, he is the nominee, right?

He is the nominee. But the sooner we can merge the RNC with the campaign, the better. Well, that's why a lot of these people, there's a faction of people, a pretty large faction, to be honest with you, on the RNC that I believe are really nasty now because they didn't like Trump to begin with. They were defensive of Ronna. That was the, you know, and this is where people don't understand. The RNC, when Trump came in in 2016, did not like him at all.

There was like very, very few people that were on the RNC that liked him at all. And so Ronna, for the last number of years, has been this like bargaining chip where it's like, well, you know, we like Ronna, so we're just going to be able to work through her. Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here. Did you know that over 5 billion pounds of meat are imported and sold in the U.S. every year? That's why you need Good Ranchers. They are the number one source of 100 percent American meat and the one that I trust to feed my own family instead of getting overpriced imported meat at the store. Good Ranchers delivers the meat my family and I eat every day straight to our door. And not only is their meat all locally sourced, but it's also all hormone free, vaccine free and has zero antibiotics ever. If you switch from the grocery store to Good Ranchers right now, subscribe to any of their 100 percent American meat boxes to secure their leap year offer of free bacon for four years.

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Tyler. Yeah, I mean, this is so the RNC has to play catch up now for about a year's worth of work, in my opinion. So we're behind on fundraising.

So that's a must. Laura is going to help out a lot with that. You know, the combination with the campaign is going to help out a lot with that. So we can't let the RNC get in its own way. So that's where this this resolution idea of like, saying like, well, Trump's not involved in the RNC. Like, that's so stupid.

Like, that's not helpful. We need to raise money. We need to raise money now.

We need to make up for a year's worth of messing around. And that's going to happen, number one. Number two, we have to start working with outsiders.

We need everybody, everybody at home that's listening to this. You don't have to work with the Republican Party directly in order to make an impact on this election. There are tons of outside groups, whether it's Turning Point Action, what we're doing with our Chase the Vote operation, tpaction.com slash chase, you can get involved now you can apply for jobs, you can do all that. You have Tea Party Patriots Action, our wonderful group, Ginny Beth Martin. They are placing people in the polling places ahead of these elections. This is the one of the most important groups in America that's doing this in Georgia and Arizona, Wisconsin. You have Scott Presser's group, which is registering voters.

Scott's coming on next. They're registering voters. They're preparing people, helping low propensity votes get turned out early. That's where we're focusing our efforts.

There's so many. You have America First Works, who's a dean, independents and groups that are not typical so we can help go chase those people. So everybody's working together on the outside. And so if you're like, you know, the party just kind of sucks sometimes and I don't trust everybody. Come work with us on these things because we're helping navigate this all outside the party, which is just as important. Do you have any confidence that the actual bureaucracy of the RNC is going to get reformed? The people that are the deep state of the RNC? So we're going to I think that the most important thing and I was messaging with a couple of other RNC members is the most important thing is that the focus remains squarely on that.

You know, you cannot applaud too much, you know, the removal of this or that chair, you know, without no other functional changes happening. So what's one of the other things that's really important? The fundraising is important because the litigation that has to happen in these states is important. So it's not enough for the RNC just to sit back and join in on other people's lawsuits and not proactively start suing. One of the things I told we told Wally, you just got to start suing. So you have a claim to go raise money. You need to start suing the left, stopping the left, finding there's 10 different things.

I mean, Genis Woboda will tell you this, who is wonderful. We'll say there's 10 different things that need to be litigated now, like immediately, immediately. And so the RNC and it's currently not happening.

And the RNC has been MIA on those battles already. Right. So there's work to be done. There's not to be done. There's not a lack of work.

There's not a lack of effort to be done. You know, in addition to this refocusing, I mean, look, Wisconsin, they're trying to redo all the maps, right? They just got the House and State Senate ones. This is inevitably going to put more money for the Democrats in the state of Wisconsin.

You know, they're trying to mess with things. In Georgia, obviously, we've seen the Fannie Willis stuff. This isn't going to be the end of that rodeo. I really want to dive into Wisconsin. Wisconsin's a problem. Wisconsin is going to be World War Three. I'm telling everyone right now it's the whole country.

I mean, if the election were held today, we'd probably fall 10,000 votes short. Wisconsin is a crazy place. It's like it's a completely different. It's basically like rural Chicago.

Yeah. And so you get it's rural Chicago, tons of farmland, tons of farmers, tons of smaller communities. They let 12 year olds drink there. I mean, it's a lot of micro communities. It's like a state. It's like state law.

You can like drink at the pub with your entire parent. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's a wild place.

Very European in that way. Yeah. It's it's and it's all pocket. But it's because it's pocketed. And it's impossible to pull. Very difficult. Impossible.

Yes. The polls are notoriously the most inaccurate of any state in the country. It has been under siege for years. And remember, don't forget, the unions have a massive stronghold in the state. So what ultimately was Scott Walker's undoing was the teachers union.

Right. So you had all these different unions finally joining forces and they get all their free labor from that. Our side has basically no free labor.

We were texting about one of our colleagues here in Arizona. Unions were knocking on their door on Friday, just like, hey, what issues do you care about? Like, they're sending out full time union operatives to like already soft I.D. independent voters right now and do just issue specific.

What's your number one issue? So they have a free multi-thousand person army. Yeah, it's free for them.

It's free. And the person that messaged us also pointed out these people weren't wearing union shirts. But when they're asked, you know, they self identify. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, you have a circumstance now where it's like the Democrats are going to, I believe, start realizing with Kennedy on the ballot, with Jill Stein on the ballot.

You have the only one pathway here. And it's Wisconsin. I totally agree. So what are we doing about it?

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Relief factor dot com. I cut you off, Tyler, before we bring in Scott Presser. Finish that thought on Wisconsin. Yeah, I mean, Wisconsin is turning out to be, I think, where World War Three is going to happen.

And here's the reason why. And if I was going to break down what I would predict is going to happen is what they're seeing in Georgia is the numbers are really, really bad. This Fannie Willis thing is really impacting Democrats and voter registrations out of whack for them.

Yeah. Voter registration is out of whack. Republicans can win first ballot very easily with a third party monstrosity that they have in Georgia. Here in Arizona, you have a situation where Kirsten Sinema, if she's on the ballot, might actually make things a little bit messier. But you have a circumstance here, too, where it's like the numbers look like they're out out of control for Democrats. And for us, this is the first time that we'll ever be putting bodies on the ground. We're going to have thousands of people out chasing ballots for real. You know, this is not going to be not just hocus pocus type stuff. Yeah. And again, I want to make something super clear. We've never done this before in Arizona.

This is never been done. The establishment has pretty much always controlled the get out the vote operation in all these states. In 2020, we did not have any boots on the ground at Turning Point Action. All we did was students for Trump at the time, which was a national thing at all the different college campuses. We saw how that turned out. The polling for Trump is through the roof with young people now.

But here in Arizona, the establishment's always controlled the get out the vote operation. And this time around, we're like, we're not going to just rely on that. So we're going to bring in significantly more thousands of bodies. And they left us seeing this. And they're like, they're going, oh, my gosh, this is the first time the right actually may do this. Do we want to mess around or do we want to retreat back to try to rebuild the blue wall, which is Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, where Trump crushed the blue wall in 2016. Joining us now is Scott Pressler. Tyler, stay here as we talk to Scott. Scott is early vote action. Scott, we're honored to be working alongside of you and supporting you and helping you. I'm going to keep my our hypothesis here will be proven right.

It all comes down to Wisconsin. Scott, Rana never called you, right? But I don't know if Laura has called you, but she's been mentioning you on almost every interview. So I think this new regime is going to be much more favorable to Scott Pressler.

Well, I my phone has been ringing off the hook. And thank you, Charlie and Tyler, for having me. I think people are hopeful more than ever because they understand that the grassroots are going to be in power. We're finally going to have a seat at the table. We're going to have youth in the room. We're going to have youth involved. We're going to be reaching out to the black community. And you guys, the work that you're doing at Turning Point Action and with my organization early vote action, I do believe that we have the power to win the presidency this November.

Yeah. So let's walk through. I mean, you are relentless, Scott. You have grit and you have tenacity and you have fortitude. I mean, I just every time people are sending me these tweets and I'm like, oh, I'm going to be in the next round of 800 people to go register 50 new voters. And you're it's completely out of control.

The energy level is second to none. Talk through some of the specifics of what you're doing and how the RNC can best support Scott Pressler. Thank you. Well, right now, I'm actually in Fairmont, West Virginia. This weekend, we had a gun show. And I do want to give a shout out to Annette with the Showmasters Gun Show. She has Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and she is giving us access to do voter registration at every single one of her shows.

So shout out to you, Annette. And that's something that people really need to be responsive to is, Tyler was just talking about Wisconsin, 40 percent, four zero, 40 percent of Wisconsin hunters are not registered to vote. And I would think there's a similar percentage for every other Midwestern area, Ohio and Iowa and Michigan, Pennsylvania. Therefore, people can go to gun show trader dot com. And we are working on having a presence at every gun show in the United States.

There's also a website called Rodeo USA dot com. We need to have a presence at every rodeo. And there are even some in California, Texas, et cetera. It's all across the country. And having a presence at farmers markets and 30 percent of evangelicals. I know that you're doing your big pastor's summit at the Dream City church.

30 percent of evangelicals are not registered to vote. So we have to be prepared. We must have the materials. We must show up at these locations. And that's some of the work that we're doing. So, Scott, I want you to walk through this tweet that you sent up.

You have we're making huge progress in voter registration in Arizona, North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. Can you riff through some of this? I mean, you're talking you've mentioned some of the farmers markets, all this. But can you go through some of the numbers?

I find it to be fascinating. Yes. So Joe Biden, and I use this word loosely, won the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania in 2020 by 80,000 votes. Eighty thousand is nothing.

And to anybody that's saying, oh, Scott, you know, the battle is lost. Twenty twenty. The fact of the matter is, look, Wisconsin, 20,000 votes. Georgia, 10,000 votes. Arizona, 20,000 votes. Pennsylvania, 80,000 votes.

Let's break it down. And Pennsylvania alone, there are 80,000 Amish. And that's why this upcoming Thursday, did you know that the Department of Agriculture in the state of Pennsylvania, they are coming after the Amish community because they're selling raw milk and they're not providing milk with hormones and GMO and, you know, every other thing that is inflated into that product.

They're coming after the Amish because they believe that the Amish are pacifists and that they are not going to fight back. So we are supporting Amish, going to be supporting a rally outside of the Lancaster County Courthouse at eleven thirty a.m. on Thursday, the twenty ninth. And in addition to the Amish, which are 80,000 in Pennsylvania, you have 80,000 truckers. How many of those people are hauling rigs on election day? We need to get a mail in ballot. We need to get the truckers to vote early if they're going to be on the road for 30 days at a time to lock in those votes because they are conservative. In addition, did you know that Pennsylvania is the fourth largest home to veterans in the country? There are nearly 800,000 veterans in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. And furthermore, as I mentioned with that statistic about hunters earlier, 40 percent of Wisconsin hunters not registered to vote.

There are nine hundred and thirty thousand hunters in Pennsylvania. So my message to everybody listening to The Charlie Kirk Show right now is I want you to understand, guys, we have the votes. We have the voters out there. We just have to do a better job of registering them to vote, mobilizing them and making sure that every single one of our people are activated going into November twenty twenty four. Tyler, do you have a thought for Scott?

Yeah. And this is what's most important with the work that Scott's doing, is that every 50 to 100 votes matters because there's a multiplier effect that happens. So the work that Scott's doing, the reason why Scott is so important to and why I think people are freaking out, like, why is it the RNC? Why are outside groups doing more voter registrations?

Because the more voters that register closer to the election, the more likely they are to actually vote. And so when you have when you fund millions of dollars worth of ballot chasers in Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, we have great friends, Cliff Maloney, the PA Chase, PA Chase.com. They're doing Pennsylvania chasing there, too. That's aiding our, you know, the Scott Pressler work. Right.

Which is now we have bodies on the ground to chase. Scott, as you're out talking to people and again, we can't thank you enough for the work that you're doing on registering voters and getting more people added to this. But as you're talking with people, what's the sentiment level with with voting? You know, are you talking to a lot of people who are first time voters?

What is the discussion level? And then what are you saying to people as they're registering maybe again for the first time or the first time in years? Well, that's been kind of a wake up call going to these gun shows.

I've been from the Philly Expo Center outside of Philadelphia and Phoenixville to the Harrisburg Great American Outdoor Show. And excuse me, we registered, for example, one woman that was born in 1956. She's never voted in her entire life. And she goes, Oh, my gosh, everything is so expensive.

I can't afford anything. I have to vote this year. And we spoke to a man in Harrisburg that is 70 years old. He has never voted. And he goes, I've always felt guilty about not voting. But but we were prepared at the right place at the right time we registered him to vote. And we're going to follow up with these people. That's why the voter registration is so important, because there's a data component that we then have the ability to follow up with these people who do they need a ride to the polls? Do they know where their polling location is? When do the polls open?

When do the polls close? Do they need an opportunity to vote earlier, vote by meal? And so the sentiment I'm getting is in this election in November, we are going to see new people coming into the electoral process that have never been involved before. And furthermore, one thing that's very important as well is even the formerly incarcerated people. And I really want Republicans to understand that there are people going to come into this election who, you know, maybe they have a past but look at President Trump with the First Step Act. Look at President Trump bringing new people into the fold into our big 10 party. We have formerly incarcerated people that have been suffered at the hands of our injustice system, very similar to what President Trump is experiencing. And they are coming out and supporting the Republican ticket because they understand that this is about not just Donald Trump, but this is about fighting back against the DOJ that is being weaponized against American citizens.

Scott, how can people support you and follow you? And finally, when Michael Watley gives you a call, the new RNC chair, because he will. What's your message to him going to be? Thank you.

Well, people can go to early vote action dot com. And also my interview with Donald Trump Jr. is going to be tonight at 6 p.m. on Rumble talking about the Amish community. So if you're interested, please tune in. And, you know, I had a very lovely conversation with Chairman Watley at your event.

And Tyler, which in Las Vegas, he came straight up to me. We had a lovely conversation. And I welcome any opportunity to work in love with RNC. I would love the opportunity to lead a voter registration apparatus or even an early voting ballot harvesting apparatus. And so I welcome any opportunity to work with the party. We need less flowers and we need one thousand Scott Presslers.

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We got up in Green Bay. I call him Galiszewski. My grandmother's name was Dankowski. So is it Polish? Oh, yeah. Chicago, Milwaukee corridor.

There's tons of Poles. It's the best. You betcha. It's the best. So Brett, you're doing a great job in Wisconsin.

Thank you. Just how's the vibe? Are people coming? Are we taking Wisconsin seriously on the ground? Yeah, we have a really unique opportunity on our hands here. I know Tyler kind of alluded to this last segment, but Wisconsin's about to become the center of the political universe, World War III. And we're thrilled to be bringing our first grassroots field office to Waukesha, Wisconsin, just off of I-94 in between Milwaukee and Madison.

We should do a show live from there when it's open. We did the Swing State Update this week from there. We did.

We did. Great location, less than an hour from Madison, less than 20 minutes from Milwaukee, right in the heart of where our ballot chasing army is going to be this year in Waukesha, Wisconsin. National pundits don't even have Waukesha County on their radar. We've identified it as a top five county to saving our country. That's how serious it is. I want you to tell us why and why the pundits are wrong.

And I have a feeling I know how you're going to answer. By the way, unbelievable work happening in Wisconsin and Arizona. This is what the RNC should be doing, and hopefully they will be one day. Our data driven approach has identified a ton of what we call low propensity Republican voters in Waukesha County. Actually, enough in one county to tip the election in one way or another. Trump won Wisconsin in 2016 by about 22,000. He lost Wisconsin by about 20,000 in 2020. We no longer view it as a war of persuasion. We view it as a war of getting every single conservative voter and their mother out to vote. And Waukesha County is a county that we've statistically been able to rack the score up in in the past.

We have to do better. It's win by more in counties like Waukesha County, Ozaukee County, which is a county that statewide candidates used to win by 30 points at one time. Just north of Milwaukee. That's a county that Kohler, Wisconsin. No, a little south of there.

That would be Mequon. That would be like the immediate Milwaukee suburbs when you leave Milwaukee County. And so 2012, circuit 2012, you were seeing statewide Republican candidates winning by 30 points. Dan Kelly won it by five points in our Supreme Court. That's the whole ballgame, right?

That's the whole ballgame. That's the battleground right there. And then in Milwaukee County, the county that I'm first vice chair and it's lose by less. And if we can get that number close to 35 to 38 percent, kind of hitting our ceiling, maximizing our reach in Milwaukee County, Milwaukee County can go from the reason we lose statewide elections, which it is right now, to being the reason we win them going forward.

By the way, I speak for the audience. Where's the RNC with these impressive young people? I mean, they got these overweight, D.C., unimpressive people that are just blubbering on TV. And here's Brett.

He's not knocking off counties. What's the ballot chasing? What's the most frustrating part, Charlie? It's like they don't even pick up the phone and like want to talk to.

But talk about that, Tyler. I mean, these people, they drive me insane. This is why we do what we did.

They're so cocky and they're stupid. Brett is literally the megamind of Wisconsin politics now. He has put himself through every detail of everything that we need to do to win. And this is what we do, right? We train the grassroots.

We look at the ground. We find the best up and coming talent. And that is that is Brett. But that our entire team, I cannot speak for Austin Smith. And now I'm talking about Wisconsin. Oh, yeah. Austin's great.

Whatever. Arizona's fine. Our team in Arizona is incredible. We got this national apparatus. No one's focusing our Wisconsin element.

We have some incredible, incredible people. You know, Brianna Dixon, Sadie, Brandon Malley, Brandon, the Dane County. So Dane, I'm going to be visiting Dane because the University of Oregon will be playing University Wisconsin.

That's after election day. I am going to go to the Alabama UW Madison game. And so talk about Dane County is a place we're not going to win Dane County, but we could lose by less. What what is in Dane County? So Dane County is where the University of Wisconsin Madison is. It's the People's Republic of Dane County, as we call it, and it's more liberal than anybody can understand. Oh, it is. It's a war zone in the capital of the state, the capital of the state. Yep.

You walk down State Street, which is like the main drag where all the bars and you're kind of the hop in place on campuses. It's still boarded up from the summer of love in 2020. There's still graffiti that says Trump, you know, this and that.

I mean, it's truly a war zone down there. And Brandon Malley, the 23 year old Dane County GOP chair, who's also our Midwest regional manager for Turning Point Action. He has stepped into this role. He's sort of a baptism by fire role on the one year anniversary that he was elected as chair and the one year anniversary that was elected as first vice chair of the Milwaukee GOP. He's done a phenomenal job. He's taken it step by step on a data driven approach.

And he's reactivated the college Republicans. I mean, it's just been incredible what he's been able to do. And of course, he's getting scrutiny for it. But that's because he's doing something right.

And nothing worth doing isn't met with scrutiny. And Dane County, Charlie, is where if you win, this is going to sound crazy. If you go from 23 percent to 25 percent of the vote.

No, it's not crazy. It significantly changes. By the way, this is what they did to Mequon, right? Or is that right?

We used to win by 30, now we win by five. So it's the same thing on the opposite side, which is we just have to win 25 percent of the vote in Dane County. And that's the goal. I would imagine RFK would do well in Madison, Wisconsin. He would.

He would. And we're seeing that. We're seeing that, you know, he has some kind of interest being generated up at places like UW Madison, UW Milwaukee Marquette University, where I went. And that could have a big effect. That might be why the left is starting to retreat in some of these states and starting to think they're retreating in Wisconsin.

Have we seen evidence of that? The opposite. Actually, they've doubled and tripled down. We don't see them tripling down in Georgia. They're a little shaky in Georgia right now. And they're shaky in Arizona, too. And Wisconsin is World War Three.

Wisconsin is going to be the battle lines are drawn. But what is the greatest concern you have for the state of Wisconsin now to November voter turnout? Still, I mean, it's still I mean, it's a numbers game, turnout, not registration. Wow. OK, turnout.

Yeah. I mean, just by the numbers alone, we've identified here. I'll give you an example in Milwaukee County. So we've always been told that the southwest corner of the county is the path to victory here in the valley. We've always been told that the Tomahawk region is the path to victory. Our data is showing the opposite. It's showing that in Milwaukee County, we have to win by more in West Alice, places like the North Shore, places like, you know, the south east corner of the county where there's a lot of cops and firefighters. What we're seeing in Wisconsin, I think this has kind of bent our went with national trends is that Wisconsin has a lot of Kennedy era Democrats, union branded Democrats, who circa 2015 2016 had that realization that, oh, my gosh, I'm actually conservative. It wasn't until President Trump came around and started speaking their language that they realized that. But we're finding out that those are still disengaged voters. So paint for me who the stereotypical disengaged voter in Wisconsin. Are they college educated? Do they work with their hands?

What is their age? Build out the profile tradesmen. You know, I'd say, you know, someone who works in the trades, you know, I put that person in maybe that, you know, more 24 to 45 ballpark range, someone who has our conservative white working class working class yet has our conservative values and principles, but it's very apathetic.

Wisconsin has a lot of them in Wisconsin. Nice is a very true thing. And I think oftentimes that gets in the way of someone taking a stance on a political candidate. Are you running into some people say the election is rigged?

Why even vote? Have you? Are you seeing that a little bit? We run into that quite a bit in Wisconsin. I mean, obviously, 2000 mules publicized what happened in Milwaukee.

We hosted Dinesh D'Souza for a turning point action event in Milwaukee. So I mean, you can't really escape that, that mindset still. And of course, there's those folks in Wisconsin, you know, the machines and, and, you know, they're letting that mindset make them not want to come out to the polls, we have to break that stigma. How do you effectively break that relationally organizing relational organizing, I should say, and this is a complete paradigm shift of what we know politics to be right now, the old way of winning is very transactional. They stick a stranger up on your door.

It's the political spray and pray method, lit drop centric. What issues do you care about the most we want to relationship build and some of our high priority precincts going forward. I'll give you an example. I can walk down the street. When I get home to Milwaukee this week and knock on the door of the guy down the block and say, Hey, I'm Brett Kalashefsky. I'm first vice chair of the Milwaukee GOP wanted to give you my contact information, let you know if you ever wanted to get involved, or if there's anything I can ever shed light on policy wise, let me be your point of contact. And then I come back in a couple weeks. Hey, man, good to see you again.

My fiance made some Trump cookies wanted to share some with you. Hey, by the way, there's a school board meeting going on next week. If you want to come with me, I think it'd be great.

I'll pick you up. Boom. Now I have a friend. Now that person is more likely to turn in their absentee ballot to vote.

Because I know that person I've built a relationship with that person. And we're gonna have hundreds of those people in Wisconsin in our high priority precincts doing just that complete paradigm shift. Yeah. So Tyler, you could build out we are we are furiously hiring people. Is the RNC furiously hiring full time people?

I don't think they have the resources to do that. So I knew the answer to that. We all do that. But I just wanted to make sure we have worked really hard over time. And you've worked really hard over time, Charlie, give you a lot of credit. You know, all of us here are one team of literally hundreds of people who are trying to raise enough capital. So we can't hire on the capital guy. You're the capital. You guys do the rest. You've you've been there for a long time. But we I mean, Charlie's zipping around the country.

I'm zipping around the country. We're trying to convince as many people fund this now so we can hire people on time. Here's the reason why this all matters. It is not early enough. You're not going to be able to hire if the left has twelve hundred people on the field. You are not going to be able to hire twelve hundred full time people after July 4th.

You just can't find the bodies. It's too late. Everybody's already engaged. They already have their vacation plan. They have all you can't do it. So you have to hire them now or even before now in order to keep up with the left.

It is. Brett, just close with this. What is the way that the national apparatus has usually treated Wisconsin? They fly in New Yorkers and they fly in Los Angelenos.

Nothing wrong with those people to go knock on some door of a Packer fan during a Packer game to get shot. Absolutely. And from a voter connectivity standpoint, they're really missing the mark. You know, they'll they'll hire in bunch these, you know, people from out of state and then they'll spit them all back into the wild when it's done. And the tried and true Wisconsinites who want to help the conservative movement, they're the ones that lose the most. And Wisconsinites aren't overly ideological. No. Right. They want a functioning country. They want clean streets. Right.

They want like a stable place for their kids. Don't Chicago my Wisconsin. Is that I'm sure that's. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

Unless it's Madison. Right. TP Action Dotcom. So you guys are having meetings all day, right? I mean, this is where we're battle central right now.

Right now. Brett is now he's the newly minted enterprise director for what we call our legacy field operation, which is managing effectively all of our volunteer movement that we have across the country. So we're in 10 states.

Brett's the leader over all of those states. But, you know, we have a special focus on Arizona, Wisconsin, Georgia, where we have literally dozens of full time people already on the ground. And now we're and now we're moving towards hundreds of full time people that are going to manage thousands of activists.

That's great. The work that we're doing now is preparing ourselves for that, which there's a lot of work to be done. There's a lot of work to be done. A lot of events we're going to have. We just met with the state party chair in Wisconsin this week. Brett and I was out in Waukesha and we let him know.

We said, hey, Mr. Chair, we're going to have hundreds of events happening during the month of October. Hope you're ready and that we can turn this thing around and win. All right. You guys are doing great. TPAction.com. That's TPAction.com. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody email us as always. Freedom at CharlieKirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.