The World's Oldest Christian Country in Peril with Ambassador Sam Brownback and Rep. Andy Biggs

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Yes. First of all, where's the faith community on this? I haven't heard a lot of the major Christian leaders. God bless you for speaking out about it. What's going on? I think people get confused or they get back and forth saying, well, it's Armenia's side, it's Azerbaijan's side.

It just kind of goes back and forth. Azerbaijan has played this very well on top of it. They have built a good relationship with Israel of sorts. Now, recently they didn't vote to condemn Hamas. So hopefully that's going to break that alliance some. But Azerbaijan has gotten weaponry from the United States.

It's been helpful for us against Iran. But now they're with Turkey's backing. They're really going at these Armenian Christians and we're just not doing anything.

I think most people just get kind of befuddled. Well, it's a he said, she said, I'm not sure which way this is going. What has happened is one hundred and twenty thousand Armenian Christians who have lived in the same place. Their ancestors have for two thousand years have been run out of Nagorno-Karabakh, and now they're concerned about Armenia proper being attacked by Azerbaijan.

Well, yeah. Talk more just about the focus of. So we're super concerned as a country, I guess, about Russia and Ukraine for good reason. Israel and the Gaza thing gets a lot of attention, but this has just been so de-emphasized. And just talk more to our audience about Armenia, a Christian country, the oldest Christian country in the world. And there was a genocide of the Armenian people, but Turkey, a member of NATO, did the genocide and then it gets covered up in the Western world.

Talk about that. Well, this is at the end of World War One, about 1915. There's the Armenian genocide, as I mentioned earlier, about a million, could be a million and a half Armenian Christians were just killed by the Ottoman, the falling of the Ottoman Empire. And it was just kind of not anybody paid much attention to it. Armenia is a small Christian country that's kind of right there in the Middle East. It's an ancient Christian population.

And it just gets overlooked. And then for a long period of time, Charlie, here was an issue was their defender was Russia. Russia has defended Armenia for a long period of time. And so I think the West kind of looked at it and said, well, OK, that's that's what the Russians are doing there. And the Armenians were fine with it.

It was really a marriage of necessity that they were in that region. But recently, Armenia has started to go more democratic as an open society and wanting to embrace the West. Well, as soon as you do anything like that, the Russians shoot you. They don't want anything to do with democracy. They don't want anything to do with an open society, even if it's another Christian nation. And that's really put Armenia in this situation where they're kind of swimming between two boats.

They've left Russia, but the West hasn't picked them up yet. And I think that's part of the reason why you haven't seen a lot of Christian communities talking about it. Yeah, that's a good explanation. But, you know, for example, on social media, there's massive uproar about the plight of the Muslims and this nonsense about, you know, Israeli genocide on Gaza, all a bunch of trash.

Right. That none of that stuff is true. And there's no sympathy at all for Christians. Like nobody cares at all whatsoever about why do you think there's so much Christian hatred?

I wish I knew the answer to that one. And you see, there's there's more persecution of Christians today in the world than any time in the history of Christendom. Never been more. And it's as if the world says, you know, the Christians are the largest faith community out there. You guys are big enough to take care of yourselves or you did this to other people in the past.

It's you're you're getting it now. I don't know which or if it's both or what the case of it is, but you've just got large scale Christian persecution taking place. I just saw another report today of Christians being killed in Nigeria.

You're seeing the Catholic community being thrown out of Nicaragua, some of their institutions by Ortega. The Chinese are at war with all faiths, Christians included. And I don't know why, but it's up to us to stand up for it and not to be embarrassed about standing up for Christians around the world that are being persecuted. It seems like a lot of times people are kind of, well, I don't want to speak out about it.

And we have to. These are key brothers and sisters that have been persecuted, locked up, killed in various places around the world. Ambassador, any other aspects to this issue you want to make sure our audience is aware of or anything you'd like to plug that are action items for our audience?

Yeah, they can go on a Web site. One hundred and twenty thousand reasons dot org. One hundred and twenty thousand. That's the number of Christians that got run out of Nagorno-Karabakh. One hundred and twenty thousand reasons dot org for more information. And one thing they really can do is push their members of Congress not to sell weaponry to Azerbaijan, push the Biden administration not to sell weaponry to Azerbaijan, that we've been supplying weapons to them.

And that's got to cease. And we need to find help to Armenia. So I'm just logistically curious. It just came to me. So how and what period of time did they move these Christians out of this region and how far did they travel? They went down this place called the Lachin Corridor, and it's about 22 miles. And this happened in a period of about 10 days.

So now I'm just really curious. So in 10 days, one hundred twenty thousand people moved. Why is it that people can't leave northern Gaza for an Israeli invasion and the U.N. calls that a humanitarian crisis? Egypt won't let them move. I mean, I just saw a report today where Egypt was letting 400 or something like that out of Gaza of two and a half million people.

Yeah. Unfortunately, a lot of times in the Middle East, you get these refugee populations that are used as pawns in kind of the battle over Israel and Israel's position in the Middle East, which the Iranians. And that's who's behind this are trying to push out into the sea. You know, I just I just find it fascinating, even from moving from southern Gaza, from northern Gaza to southern Gaza, the U.N. says it's impossible and that it's a human rights catastrophe. Has the U.N. called what's happening in Armenia and Azerbaijan a human rights catastrophe? Has the U.N. spoke out about this?

I haven't I haven't seen them. There was a former U.N. special rapporteur that has spoke out about the conditions and the nature of genocide being there in Armenia. But the U.N. itself hasn't spoken out. It's very telling. Well, it's part of the testing that's taking place of the United States right now in this final year of the Biden term there. And who knows how the election goes next year. But the final year of this Biden term, you're getting all this testing. And one of the testings that nobody's talking about is what Turkey is doing through Azerbaijan to Armenia.

And that's to me what's really troubling. People talk about Russia and Ukraine. They're talking about the Middle East. Everybody's watching China and Taiwan.

But what about this one? We need people really to speak out on it. And we need to not be complicit with the United States. Just to repeat, everybody, such an important story. The U.N. international communities are lecturing Israel for allegedly perpetuating a genocide, which is false, and that people can't move to southern Gaza, but they're perfectly fine with 120,000 Christians being moved in 10 days in Armenia. It really doesn't make a lot of sense. Ambassador Brownback, thank you so much.

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No mas. This is just a little snippet. He's been almost daily complaining, saying, we are full. We are full. No more illegals. This is a national and statewide issue that has been unjustly dropped into the lap of New York City residents. We only make up.05 of the land mass in New York State..05.

That's what we make up. Yet we are housing over 99 percent of the migrants. He's getting it from his constituents. Black residents in New York, they're getting very angry. So Eric Adams is trying to find a solution. He says, quote, this is devastating for our city.

Play cut 88. It is going to cost us this year five billion dollars and three years twelve billion dollars. This has created a crisis that's wrong for New York taxpayers, wrong for the migrants, and wrong for our city and wrong for our country.

And the national government is not doing their job. Those are fighting words, Eric Adams. Today, Eric Adams was in D.C. He was about to sit down with Joe Biden in the White House to discuss the immigration crisis. And then people said, oh, Eric Adams canceled the meeting. He said, I have to go back to New York. People were saying, what's going on? What's happened?

Right on schedule. This morning, the FBI raided the home of top Eric Adams fundraiser, Brianna Suggs. Not a subpoena raiding the home. Eric Adams flew a little too close to the sun.

Eric Adams, otherwise known as Icarus, complained a little bit too much, and he just got some chin music, a little bit of a warning brushback pitch. You better shut up, is what they're saying. Brianna Suggs, we have no idea what the search warrant is about, but this is typical Stalinistic FBI, Southern District of New York tactics. You want to go meet with Joe Biden? You're making too much noise?

We will raid you. They're doing this right now to Elon Musk. SDNY is investigating Elon Musk because Elon Musk is complaining too much and noticing too much. Now, maybe Brianna is a bad actor. I don't know. She's a Democrat, so probably is.

But they probably had dirt on her for quite some time. But why now? You're trying to tell me it's a coincidence? You're trying to tell me that Eric Adams is about to take a seat in the West Wing in a roundtable with cameras everywhere?

Of course not. Joe Biden and his government ordered a hit. They said, raid it. This is a problem. You're making us look bad. Now.

And it worked. Eric Adams is on his way back to New York to handle a matter. The Biden crime family we know is run like a mob family. La Cosa Nostra. No different than El Chapo, the Godfather, the five families of New York. This is exactly how the mob would handle stuff. This is the equivalent of waking up with a horse's head in your bed.

For those of you that have watched The Godfather, you know exactly what I mean. Eric Adams got the memo, canceled the meeting and went home. There will be no summit on illegal immigration. The complaining, I'm sure, will lessen in its volume and intensity. And Eric Adams is probably sick to his stomach. Now, whether or not this is legit with Brianna or not, the regime strikes the Democrats too.

The administrative state runs the country. If you dare complain about open borders, if you dare complain about the issues, we will deploy the shock troops after you. You're trying to tell me that Brianna Suggs and Eric Adams coincidentally find themselves in the crosshairs of the FBI?

Really? Not the DAs that don't enforce the law? Not Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton or Nancy Pelosi?

No, no, no. Eric Adams and his low-level fundraiser? I would love to see this search warrant. Who am I to defend Brianna Suggs, honestly? Absent, like, narco-trafficking? Or that if she was literally receiving donations from the Chinese Communist Party and laundering them back to Eric Adams, it is reprehensible to have the FBI raid the home of a political fundraiser.

Like, what is that all about? They did it to O'Keefe, they did it to Giuliani, and now they'll do it to Brianna Suggs. If you are a threat in the Southern District of New York, they will deploy the shock troops against you. The deep state has not given up any power, and Biden ordered a hit.

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Yeah, I'm pleased. This is, and people would say, what plan do you have? And the plan I had was a new speaker, change, change the institution, make it more transparent, more open, and get a guy that we all trust. And I think we're off to a good start with Mike Johnson because he answers and fits the bill to all of that.

And I'll just tell you something different. He asked for a meeting with the Freedom Caucus today. We had a meeting with him, and it wasn't because he needed our vote. It was because he wanted to know what we thought about certain issues. How is that for a change of pace, Charlie?

Andy, I got to give you credit. You saw a vision and you cast it, and Speaker Johnson is a prayerful, godly man. So, Andy, let me ask you, continuing resolution, do you think that we're going to kick this to January? I see arguments on both sides. What can we expect when it comes to the continuing resolution fight coming into January? Well, I keep telling people a CR talk is a little premature. Let's go ahead and finish the 12 bills, get them over to the Senate. We probably won't.

So then let's face it realistically. I am not for a long-term CR. I'm not for a CR that lasts more than, say, 10 days. And the reason is you need to keep the pressure on members of Congress. The Senate doesn't want to do anything.

They just want to be able to do an omnibus. And the way you prevent that is you do short-term CRs. If you kick it down the road to, say, even January, the Senate, guaranteed, is going to pull an omnibus out of its hat and try to get that through. And we just cannot accept that.

We're going to have to – I'm not – I don't believe in CRs. So anything you do is going to have to have a penalty for failure to get the work done. So you didn't – so you're going to have to see a reduction in the spending. You're going to have to see policy changes. You might have to see elimination of programs. All of that, if you can't get your work done by November 17th, then – and you want to extend government operations without a shutdown, then you're going to have to make some concessions there in order to get that through, I believe.

Yeah, and I'm totally with you. I think CRs, it's the ultimate government escape hatch, right, where they say it's for an emergency and we've been in this permanent emergency. Andy, how long have you been in Congress? Six years now, three terms?

Is that right? Three or four terms? Yeah, midway through my fourth term, so seven years. Yeah, and I think ever since you've been a congressman, they've been doing CRs, right, or close to it. I mean, from your time in Congress, have you actually experienced the way that we did budgeting 30 or 40 years ago?

No, and Charlie, let me give you some amazing data. The last 10 years, we've done 28 CRs. The last 20 years, we've done 35, 40. There were three times that we did a CR all the way for a full year, and the last time we did the 12 approach bills we were required to under federal law and got them out on time.

Twelve bills on time, 1977. Does that blow your mind, Charlie? I mean, it's just inexcusable, and I think there's a direct correlation, isn't there, Andy, because you're a fiscal hawk. That's what I love about you. If you don't actually fix the mechanics, you can't fix the results, right? Exactly right.

Exactly right, Charlie. So that's why the whole deal was to try to fix the infrastructure, and then you had a person who was going around the infrastructure fixes we had. So now you have to make a personnel change, because you changed the infrastructure, and the person that you brought in is not conforming to the new infrastructure. So now you need new personnel. And so that's, if we're going to turn this ship around, and if we don't, by the way, you can't dither around anymore, Charlie, because a year from now we'll be sitting at 36 and a half, 37 trillion. I know. You can't fiddle around.

You're going to have to take serious action. Just so you know my position, Andy, I don't think we should be afraid of government shutdown. I know you're not, right?

Social Security checks still go out and all that. I don't want one. I'm not saying we should aim for one, but we shouldn't be held hostage by it, right?

This needs to be a negotiation, not a hostage situation where we're willing to do whatever it is. Andy, talk about the psychology of Christmas break and how members seem to lose all principles, guardrails of reality, just so that they could get back on a flight on the evening of December 21st. You're laughing, but it's ridiculously true, isn't it? Oh, it's totally true. I mean, there might be 10 of us that are willing to just say, okay, if I have to stay here on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, I will. I think actually I did fly home one Christmas evening, but the bottom line is these people start unplugging, Charlie.

Let's just be honest. They start unplugging in September for the Christmas break. And then the other thing that you can't underestimate this either, Charlie, is that next year is an election year. Presidential elections, members of Congress. So when you get past January, everybody just wants to unplug.

You will not see anything, in my opinion, anything meaningful done to change the direction of the country. That's why I'm a big believer in the, if you're going to do a CR, which I hate CRs with a passion, I can tell you why. What they do is that facilitates the deep state, right? I mean, I can expand on it. That's facilitating. But if you do longer term, by longer term, I don't mean anything over eight days, eight to 10 days.

Then you basically kick this thing down in a way that the pressure is off to solve the problem. And so my position is you use the use short term CRs to leverage the Senate. They've got to get their work done.

Even the House. The Senate has now passed, finally has passed three bills. We didn't pass one of those corresponding, which is the AG bill. That doesn't mean you can't get into a conference committee situation right now and basically hammer this thing out.

But they're like, oh, no, no, no, Andy, that's getting ahead of the ball. Nothing is ahead of the ball game right now, Charlie. We're already so far behind that they need to be off their duffs, getting together and sorting out the issues so that we can see if we can come to a consensus in both the House and Senate, say, on the AG bill or the upcoming transportation T-head bill, the THUD bill, because it stinks and lands bad. So is it your position, Andy, that you would like to see the 12 appropriation bills passed prior to Christmas break? Is that is that your opinion?

Because I agree, we have this chart, 68 we put up. Republican courage goes down the closer we get to Election Day. Right. And so it's not exactly there's going to be this, you know, fighting spirit on January the 10th.

It's going to be the typical guys. You know what, Andy? Oh, it's an election year.

Tough vote for me. So, I mean, I look at it opposite. Put their own stupid Christmas plans aside. And I think it's such a you know this, Andy, the district you represent. There are people that work in the E.R. and the hospitals on Christmas Day, police officers that have to work on Christmas Day. You know, this pilots and flight attendants like get over yourselves, guys. OK. And I'm not the exception. I mean, this whole thing that you guys need, like a two week glorified Christmas break is repulsive to me.

OK. It's that go do something for the country. And so is it your position then that we kind of need to force the hand of Congress to get something substantively done and not kick this? Because the one thing I didn't like when Mike Johnson said, well, maybe we have to do a C.R. through January 15th. It's like, boy, if you think you're going to get a courageous caucus on January 15th, it's going to be even worse than before Christmas.

Your thoughts, Andy? I agree with you 100 percent, Charlie. I want the 12 bills done by by November 17th. They should have been done by June 30th. That's the federal law. So where we are and here's my position. Even if you can't get the 12 bills done, if we've taken a floor vote on every one of those 12 bills, that doesn't prevent you from negotiating because something came out of the rules committee that was the Prop.

Bill in the House. That means, you know, you have a bill to negotiate from. Go to negotiate with the Senate.

Find out where we're in alliance and find out where there's discord and resolve it. And if you begin doing that, that has to be done before the middle of November. And if you do that, don't forget, we shut down for basically a week at Thanksgiving, Charlie.

So it's just these guys don't they don't want to do this stuff. So I'm I'm saying that's why if you can't get it done by November 17th, when the when the current C.R. ends, then by golly, don't do a six to ten week C.R.

Do a do max of a two week C.R., do a ten day C.R. That way, everybody's sitting at the table, working it out, trying to resolve this thing. Because you're right, the closer you get to Christmas, you know what happens? People start peeling off. And you know who wins? Everybody.

That's a big spender wins because they know that that that people will start caving and say, oh, gosh, I just got to get out of town. Yeah. OK. OK. Yeah. It's an extra five billion dollars that we don't have. But that's OK. We'll get we'll take care of it next year. And next year never comes. They never take care of it.

Take care of it now. We need to have a fiscal reckoning in this country. Two trillion dollar deficits are morally unacceptable. Make the Senate do some work. And I my own two cents or two things, Andy, I say this. We've had all the lawmakers on this week.

I said this to Marjorie, said this to Chip Roy, said this to somebody else that was on the show. I can't remember. And I'll say it to you, which is that we need to put the pressure on the four red state Democrats. You know this. And then she's not really red state. I don't know.

Cinema brown tester mansion. Make them do some work. Make them take tough votes. Force it onto the Senate. And then you should create the Christmas caucus. Andy, you're not the Freedom Caucus.

People that are willing to work through Christmas, if necessary. It could actually change the dynamic. Just say, hey, we're not even to make any legislative. I bet you could get some moderates on that.

I really, maybe even Dusty Johnson and that guy from North Dakota, Armstrong. Maybe. I don't know. They might have big Christmas plans more important than the country. I think we need a Christmas caucus.

Forget the issues. Just people that are willing, if necessary, to work through Christmas to deliver results for the American people. I bet you could get even some Democrats and some moderates on it.

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Walk us through it. Yeah, so what's going on here is the House is going to separate all those issues, is my understanding. So the first issue, we're going to vote on this later today, is what's called the supplemental funding for Israel. Now, mind you, we've already given Israel almost $4 billion this year, but we're going to apparently we're going to vote tonight to give them an additional $14 billion.

Now, this is what's remarkable about this. This will be the first time that I can remember since I got here that we're not going to just add it to the credit card. We're actually going to pay for it, and we're going to pay for it. So everybody knows about Joe Biden funding the IRS with an expansion of $80 billion to go after Americans.

Well, they haven't used that yet. They haven't used more than a few billion dollars. So we're going to take $14 billion of it that was otherwise go to the IRS to come after Americans. And we're going to give that to Israel. And that's how that supplemental is going to be funded. The pay for has never been done in my time here in Congress, which makes that kind of historic.

And we're trying to set the new boundaries because now you've got the Warhawks and the Biden administration. They want to actually fund Ukraine and they want to fund them for an entire year, Charlie. They want to give them $60 billion. And I'll just say, do they not believe that that money is getting a significant portion of it is getting siphoned off? And I'm not sure that Americans even understand that some of that money is going to pay for pensions for Ukraine government employees. It's going to fund the legislative body in Ukraine.

And it's being siphoned off and basically embezzled by ne'er-do-wells in the the corruptocracy, kleptocracy, whatever you want to call it, of Ukraine, which we knew going in. It hasn't changed. Who thought it was going to change? I never thought it would change. I knew we could lose money. Yeah.

And it's Andy. I mean, just more broadly, do you see any weakening in your colleagues towards their zeal with Ukraine? Do you see any change of tone, attitude at all?

I do, actually. You've got the cadre of Warhawks that continue to want to go. But now some of the kind of neoconservative Warhawks have actually come out and they said, wait a second, we need to know what the mission is. We need to know where the money is.

We need to know where the material is. And they want answers to all those questions before they actually give any more money to Ukraine. The administration, I think, I've been told that they've actually responded to some of that. And they're trying to assuage what is actually a small minor revolt amongst Republicans to prevent them from getting more money. But never forget, this is an effort on the part of the Biden administration to keep this war going without end, without an objective. What's the objective, Charlie?

I mean, nobody knows. Since the beginning, it's a bunch of abstractions and platitudes of like defending democracy and that Putin is terrible. And I mean, Andy, the last thing I'll just say is that I find it I find it just repugnant, to be honest, the fascination of foreign borders while our own is being overrun. We live in a border state. I mean, isn't the moral obligation to defend the homeland first and foremost?

Absolutely. By the time Biden gets out of office, more than 10 million people illegally have entered the country. And in southern Arizona, just not too far south of where you and I live, they they are releasing now tens of thousands of people into the community.

They're just doing immediate release. They're doing it all along the southern border. And you're going to see more. We see it everywhere. I was walking in Scottsdale, which and by the way, you got these illegals all over the place and they're just being dropped off.

They got nowhere to go. And it's it is it is making the communities dirtier and messier and more chaotic. We have more crime, Andy. I'm sure you're seeing that in the East Valley. Yeah, that's exactly right.

I was looking at videos of the valley, you know, values on Phoenix Metro area today. And the amount of homelessness is just increasing. And with that will come the crime, as you say. And not to mention the national security issue of of the number of Syrians coming through the Tucson and U.S. sectors now has gone way up.

Charlie and other Mideast countries that have terrorist cells in them. And the question is for us is, are they coming here? That's right.

And what happens then? Got got to run. Andy Biggs, thank you so much. We'll have you on again soon. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always. Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. Find truth. Watch 24 seven on SNC TV and on local now. Channel five twenty five.