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Government Gangsters hit the top ten thanks to Donald Trump's book launch. It's awesome. Well, very good. It's been a long time coming. All right, so there's an impeachment inquiry right now happening. This has taken too long and we've got people that are testifying that are saying we don't know if we have the goods. This is exhausting.

Kash, what's going on here? That's exactly what I've been saying. I said we don't have the bandwidth as a nation to wait for Congress to cobble together headlines in the media. We need the documents and receipts. You guys supposedly subpoenaed them a year ago or nine months ago and we still don't have them. And you have three people testifying at the impeachment inquiry today and it's not a knock on them.

I've heard of one of them. I have no idea who the other two government people are. Why aren't you starting with Hunter Biden and Devin Archer and the whistleblowers? And why aren't you putting out this document? Why am I just learning today that you had an email where Hunter Biden directly commits his father to the bribery and fraud scandal? You've been playing into the hands of the fake news when they say, what evidence?

If you've had it, where is it? Yeah. So what the two hundred fifty thousand dollar wire transfer. Walk us through this, Kash, and the details associated this, because I mean, if this is not like smoking gun evidence, I really don't know what is.

Yeah. And I love how the Democrats make up new laws. I mean, they do it all the time in their two tier system of justice when they say what evidence. And they're like, well, Joe Biden didn't get any monetary benefit.

Let's just say they're right about that. The way bribery works is you don't have to be the recipient of the funds. As a former federal prosecutor, I kind of know this. As long as you participate in the scheme to defraud and leverage someone with a bribery scandal and you are benefited or your family or your friends or your business is benefited, you are guilty of bribery. This two hundred fifty thousand dollar mark alone is guilt for Joe Biden himself of bribery, let alone Hunter and his brother and their daughters and their sisters and everyone else in on the scheme. But this DOJ is never going to prosecute him. They've probably already leaked this information, which is why The Washington Post is now calling for Joe Biden to go quietly into the sunset so they can parachute in Gavin Newsom.

Let's play cut 104 oversight. Chair James Comer has just released a bombshell piece of evidence that could be the nail in the coffin for Biden's career. A two hundred and fifty thousand dollar wire transfer from China directly to Joe Biden's home address in Delaware while he was running for president in August 2019, just months after Joe Biden announced his candidacy. The Chinese sent a quarter of a million dollars electronically to Joe Biden's Wilmington, Delaware address. Hunter Biden received the money in his checking account and his checking account listed his father's primary residence.

Primary residence there. I mean, not to mention all the text messages. I want half of your salary. Ten percent for the big guy. I mean, why are Republicans wasting time at this impeachment inquiry? Why don't we just go ahead with this?

I cash. What am I missing here? You're not missing anything, but the Republicans are politicizing the greatest amount of evidence we've ever seen showing Joe Biden's corruption, bribery and fraud scandal. And why they're doing it is I think they're wed to the media.

They're wed to this idea of somehow they're going to defeat the mainstream media and get glorified in conservative media circles for breaking through. But like you just laid out, this evidence is never going to be is is is rock solid when it comes to fraud cases, but it's never going to be acted on by Chris Wray and Merrick Garland, who've created the two tier system of justice. And what Congress has is the inherent contempt of Congress powers.

It was created for this scenario. When these individuals violate congressional subpoenas and they are the ones who are supposed to be policing our country, you go police them. But of course, Kevin McCarthy and companies not going to use the inherent powers of Congress to do anything. They're not going to refer it to a DOJ for anything. And I don't know, next week we'll be hearing from 17 other witnesses that we've never heard of. And maybe we'll get another email about a half a million dollar payment, which we should have gotten eight months ago if they just enforce the damn subpoenas.

Yeah. Why haven't they enforced the subpoenas? What is that all about? I cannot begin to tell you a reason that's plausible for that, other than the Republican will and leadership has told them they can't do that. Have we enforced any subpoenas? No, zero. We've issued, I think, 10. When we issued 17 during Russiagate, when Devin and I were running Russiagate, we fenced money and overnight on 17 subpoenas, we got 2000 pages of documentation. That means we withheld a little pocket of money. We didn't defund the whole organization. Why doesn't this government and Congress take Chris Wray's government funded G5 private jet away from him?

That's about 50 to 100 grand a pop. Why don't we do that? I bet you'd get documents tomorrow. They're allowing them to redact. They've ceded their entire constitutional oversight to Chris Wray and Merrick Garland, the number one and two government gangsters, as I write about in my book. And they're not using their levels of Congress to countermand being run over by a truck.

And I don't see it changing. Yeah. So just to reiterate, the Republican Congress has not enforced a single subpoena.

So people get subpoenas, they could just ignore them effectively. Right. It's the opposite of what happened with the January 6th committee. Correct.

Yeah. Where they were unbelievably aggressive and contempt of Congress and nonstop phone calls. So why do the Democrats fight and Republicans surrender?

What's that all about? It seems to be an unfortunate common track record. They keep thinking, oh, we'll do it the right way and the good way. And the funny thing is, we always do it the right way and the good way, but we never take advantage of the full suite of tools. The Democrats do it unlawful, unethically.

Like about January 6th, I was the first guy subpoenaed on that committee, cost me a quarter million dollars. But they don't waste time with phone calls and letters and Mother May I's. They just went after it.

And it's lawful to do it if you have a basis in doing so. And they do with Chris Wray and Merrick Garland. And their focus is Biden, Biden, Biden, Biden. All roads lead to Joe Biden. But that's what the Democrats want us to do. They want us to politically nuke Biden because even they know he can't be their candidate going up against Donald Trump. And we're taking the bait so far.

So but is it have anything to do with that? We don't control both the White House and the House of Representatives, that we don't have unified government that makes it harder to enforce subpoenas. Or is that just not a very good argument?

To me, it's not. It has that's that defines the coordinate co-equal role of the three branches of government. One does not rely on the other to enforce its constitutional mandate. Congress is constitutional oversight.

We've heard it over and over again. Constitutional oversight. The agencies and departments report to Congress, not the other way around, unless and until you have an executive branch that runs roughshod over them like this one is doing. And I can't believe the amount of people on the Republican conservative side that are saying, oh, we'll let the FBI DOJ tell us what we want and inform us how they want to be informed. And we won't get that information to the American people. That's the critical failure. Not educating Americans so that another election is rigged yet again by the FBI and DOJ.

Yeah. And so just so I'm clear, have Republicans cut any of Christopher Ray's budget since they've taken Congress? Not one cent. Not one dime. Not anything from DOJ and their fleet of cars and their boondoggles. And Chris Ray wants, just so we're clear, Chris Ray has put in a budgeting proposal to build a new FBI headquarters in Maryland that's twice the size of the Pentagon. And a bunch of Republicans are OK with that. Yeah, they're enthusiastic. So just, yeah, Republicans haven't cut a penny out of Merrick Garland or Chris Fray.

So 930 is looming. And, you know, we're hearing about. All these funding fights, are you hearing are you give any hope that Republicans will actually be able to defund any of these agencies? They could. I guess I have hope, but that's not really how we say in DOD.

That's not really a line of effort you can execute on. We have the power of the purse in the House of Representatives. That's the most important thing to me right now is the budgeting cycle. And we're about to probably cave on the CR and give out away more money to Ukraine. It's funny how we can print one hundred twenty billion dollars to Ukraine, but we can't take away five million dollars from a law enforcement agency and the FBI and DOJ that are breaking the law on a daily basis.

I don't understand that logic. Yeah, it makes you wonder how much blackmail the intel agencies have on Senate Republicans. Blackmail is the way that bad actors are able to control major institutions. It's blackmail and gold bars.

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It's unbelievable. Yeah, it's another example of lawfare. Now at the state civil level, they've done it. The federal criminal state and now a judge who has unilaterally decided without a jury that one, Donald Trump's establishment in Mar-a-Lago is worth a few pennies rather than what its actual value is, is using lawfare to meet Donald Trump. And it's not surprising, but essentially he could go in there and just take away his licenses and his properties and his ability to do business. This is going to get appealed.

Of course, it's going to get appealed. But this shows you the level they're willing to go to the radical left and the extremes that they have and how far away we, Republicans, are utilizing our law. No, we don't do it at all. So, Cash, why don't we have the Arkansas attorney general sue for fraud for the Clinton Foundation? Why haven't we done that?

Or after Biden, his mistress was there at some point. You know, you and I have led the effort about having state attorney generals in Arkansas or anywhere, Missouri, elsewhere, come in and battle the Biden administration and battle for Republicans. And nobody wants to do it. And not one single state attorney general. And we've got, I think, 26 of them at my last count, Charlie, that could bring crimes, that could bring civil actions, that could bring so much criminality to the forefront. They don't want to do it. And they have a lawful basis of doing it.

They're just like, I don't want to do it. D.C. will do it. And I think they're all part of the con job, part of the rig job, in my opinion.

That certainly seems to be the case. Very, very little fight and just a lot of complacency as the country's taken over. Yeah, we have zero, to my understanding, D.A.s or Republicans that are actively investigating or suing Joe Biden. OK, I want to talk about the Hunter Biden investigation.

What is the latest to your cash? Well, we've talked about how he got that sweetheart deal. But what people are overlooking is that to get that deal, and I know this having handled about a thousand gun cases as a public defender and prosecutor, you have to get the specific permission of the attorney general to get diversion in a gun case. That obliterates the narrative that Merrick Garland said, I'm not having any say in this matter whatsoever. We are letting career prosecutors execute this. The reason I bring that up is because he's lied about the Biden administration's involvement in the prosecution of Donald Trump.

When Donald Trump was being prosecuted because Joe Biden waived executive privilege, of course Merrick Garland talked to the White House and they were in on it together. And what should happen when a plea deal explodes, implodes, whatever word you want to use, like the Hunter Biden case, is you bring the full suite of charges. That's what happens when you prosecute people and they don't accept a plea.

That's what happens in a hundred of a hundred cases. But for some reason, we let the statute of limitations lapse because Merrick Garland is a two-tier system of justice. And we also failed to bring FARA charges, bribery charges, fraud charges.

All of these things have been worked on for five years. And if they got buried by Bill Barr, Bill Barr is the number one government gangster that could have brought these charges and sat on them and sat on justice, and is out there running around in the lethargic manner blaming Donald Trump for everything because the RINO Entrenchment class will pay him to do so. These people are all government gangsters. It's not a Republican or Democrat thing. That's a theme of my book. And they're doing nothing.

And our Congress is doing not enough to expose that grub. Check it out. Government gangsters. Great work, Cash. Congratulations. Thanks so much.

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ReliefFactor.com. Joining us now is Senator Rand Paul, who is doing a heroic and important job in the U.S. Senate, holding the line the best he can against sending more money to Ukraine. Senator, thank you so much for joining the program. Senator, tell us the latest in the U.S. Senate. How much money have we sent to Ukraine, and what are you doing to try to stop the funding of this proxy war? You know, a little over $113 billion. We know where at least some of it went, but we haven't been able to get an inspector general. The Democrats refuse, and many Republicans complicit, refuse to hire an inspector general. I've suggested that the inspector general that's been overseeing Afghan aid and military payments in Afghanistan for about a decade has got a team of hundreds of accountants and economists and lawyers.

They know what they're doing in a war zone. They actually have a budget. We could actually transfer them over to Ukraine, and the Democrats and the pro-war Republicans all have rejected this. They don't want us to look and see where the money is spent. But even 60 Minutes revealed recently that about a third of the money is going to pay government salaries and government pensions. Quite a bit of it's going in grants to small businesses to keep small businesses afloat.

But this is just a crazy notion. Now, this week, they're saying that they will close our government down if we don't give them more money for Ukraine. And the Biden administration has said, you know what? We consider the Ukraine government to be essential.

So those government workers in Ukraine will be paid, but U.S. government workers will not be paid during a shutdown. That is just, I think, the height of gall and something we should all reject. There's so much to unpack here, Senator, but let's let's really focus on the money.

And I just want to compliment you, Senator, when we were doing all this nation rebuilding in Afghanistan, you were one of the few people in the U.S. Senate that asked the question, why do we have electric vehicle charging stations in Afghanistan? Why are we building hundreds of millions of dollars for this hotel just to then torpedo it? I mean, the amount of waste that happens with our foreign adventures, it blows the mind. So one hundred thirteen billion dollars that we know of.

I just want to make sure that I understood you correctly. We don't have an inspector general or an auditor understanding the details of where this money is going. I mean, that's that's really shocking, to be honest.

It's appalling. I for the last over a year, I've been asking for an inspector general and I've told them the one we should use already exists, already has a budget. I didn't even propose any more money. I just didn't take the money he's using for Afghanistan and change his mission to Ukraine. And they rejected really both parties.

That was the pro war Republicans and all of the Democrats rejected. So some of the Democrats put forward, well, let's let Biden pick an inspector general. And the problem with that is that have to go through background checks. It might take him four months to find the right person, four months for background checks. It could be a year from now.

You know, who knows where the war will be at that point. So it'll take a while. But even that was rejected. So mine was rejected by like 60 or 70 to 30. And then that one was rejected.

It needed 60 votes and I got 52 votes instead. So, yeah, it's amazing. These people are ready to shovel the money and even more money out the door. They're ready to fund all these government workers in Ukraine, defend Ukraine's border, pay for 56000 firemen and policemen in Ukraine. And yet they're not even willing to have an inspector general.

They ought to all be fired and sent home for this kind of oversight or lack of oversight. So is there any evidence to suggest that American contractors or crony insiders are making off on this, Senator? I mean, we know this in previous kind of foreign war gaming.

Right. Afghanistan, Iraq are. Is there any evidence to suggest that the insiders in D.C. are making a lot of money off of this? We know that the there is still some semblance of media in Ukraine. We know Zelensky's banned a lot of media, but we also know that the media there has discovered people on the take, Ukrainians on the take, and that they've been forced to fire, you know, 24 people two weeks ago, a general a month ago. I mean, there have been people fired, but only under duress and only under pressure from what remains of scrutiny over there.

But historically, Ukraine has been known as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, maybe only exceeded by Russia. So you have new corrupt regimes. And you also have a country now where the president of that country has declared there won't be any elections. So there will not be an election for presidency.

He said no elections. And that to me, I mean, particularly for all these blowhards on CNN talking about democracy and make the world safe for democracy. They're not even a democracy. They're regime run by a guy who canceled the elections, who's canceled opposing parties.

It actually has invaded the churches as well as tried to restrict priests from from their freedom of speech as well. So this is a this is a real mistake. But the bottom line is we don't have any money. We have to borrow the money from China to send it to Ukraine.

It's it's beyond it, beyond any sort of rational explanation. Senator, I want to get into some of the geopolitics here. You're one of the few people in the U.S. Senate that asks the question, why are we not trying to broker peace? And also, why are we trying to get closer and closer towards a Connecticut war against Russia? Senator, why does Washington, D.C. hate Russia as much as they do? I'm not saying we have to like Russia. They're a corrupt country. They're not a free society. But why is that the intel agencies, the fourth branch of government and a majority of Senate Republicans and Senate Democrats, why are they so insistent on fighting Russia? In the words of Senator Mitch McConnell, quote, it's the most important thing happening right now, equipping the Ukrainian Ukrainians against the Russians.

Can help explain this to me, Senator, because not spending time in D.C., I don't I don't understand how they can come to this conclusion. I think they mistake the world for being a black and white world where there's good and evil. And we need to be always on the side of good. And the world's a much more murky place. There's both good and evil on the Russian side and good and evil on the Ukraine side.

There's good and evil in China, frankly. And so when we have national policy or we do things, we should be aware of the unintended consequences of it. You know, some of the brinksmanship that led up to World War Two were putting an embargo on Japan, sanctions on Japan, things like this. And none of that justifies Pearl Harbor. But some of it explains that we pushed and pushed and pushed.

Actually, I'm reading a good book right now called The Declassification Engine by Matthew Connolly. And in it, he talks about how with the war, there were many of FDR's closest advisers who were giddy after the attack. I mean, can you imagine how sad it is to lose thousands of people at Pearl Harbor and they're jumping for joy because we finally got into the war? And that's a sickness that still pervades some in Washington who would claim they aren't for it, but would actually welcome some sort of expansion of the war. People like me fear that Russia will be boxed into a situation, become desperate and bomb a Polish city. And then all of a sudden, all the force of NATO is involved and NATO troops are in Ukraine and this becomes a massive war. And I don't know, even with your enemies, you need to continue to have conversations. I'm for continuing to have arms negotiations with both the Chinese and the Russians. I think they should never end.

They should be continuous. But we have many people up here thinking, oh, we'll just sanction these people and they'll learn. They think that they're like teenagers to be scolded. And also they'll learn instead it's sort of the opposite. They're like teenagers in the way that they resist being scolded and they do the opposite of what their parents tell them.

And they don't want to be parented by the United States. And so I don't know. It's there are more mature thinkers up here, but the vast majority, the bipartisan Senate leadership are really of one mind. And that is that there's no problem with this. We're just buying bullets to shoot Russians. But in the end, I think there's a great deal of danger this could escalate. Well, the hope I have, Senator, is that the American people have quickly turned against funding this proxy war. And even you're starting to see it in the U.S. House of Representatives.

It grow and grow and grow. Senator, in some of your private conversations or one off kind of dialogues that you have, are you seeing a little bit of a weakening of the gusto amongst Senate Republicans to keep this money train going? Are you starting to see people ask more questions?

You know, are you starting to see people say, you know, maybe this is not. I mean, publicly, you know, Senator McConnell and Senator Cornyn, they seem as enthusiastic as ever. Are you starting to see some weakening, though, amongst some of the more persuadable members of the Senate in either political party? Well, among those of the senators who are like weather veins and they are testing the wind daily, they're starting to know the winds are against them. The polling now shows 70 percent of Republicans think we shouldn't be sending further aid.

Yes. Some of it just simply for fiscally conservative reasons that I make that we don't have the money we're having to borrow it to send them. But I think it is shifting. It's still a minority that we're a small minority. Often it was Mike Lee and I only. But now it's grown to maybe five or 10 of us. Josh Hawley and J.D. Vance have been outspoken on this.

He's been great. And so and there's a there's several others that are with us, but there might be 10 that are outspoken. But it's still sort of the opposite up here. We've got 20 or 30 percent who have questions about more aid to Ukraine. And yet among the public, it's 70 percent of Republicans and growing that are sick and tired of this. And they see our border being overrun that we're not willing to spend a dime or do anything to change policy on our border. But we're sending, you know, billions of dollars over there to protect the borders of Ukraine. Yeah.

And I mean, I I love the kind of weather vein analogy because, you know, they're just trying to test to see where things are. The voters are decisively against this. I believe firmly that because of the language that certain current and former senators have done, like Bernie Graham and John McCain, we actually helped provoke the Russian invasion.

This is considered to be a thought crime. You're not allowed to say this, that, you know, America's government is always right. But we were talking about expanding Ukraine into NATO. We were antagonizing Russia.

Senator, can you build this out for us a little bit? I think it's very important to talk about how we actually were complicit, potentially even responsible for creating this conflict in eastern Ukraine. The problem with this discussion and why it's always they come at you with which pitchforks is that they believe that any explanation of why an adversary reacted in a certain way is somehow justification.

And I say it repeatedly to preface this. Nothing justifies the invasion of Russia into Ukraine. But you can explain the provocation.

And the provocation was this. Russia has said for decades and we promised back in the early 1990s that when Germany united and Germany became part of NATO, that we wouldn't go one inch further into Eastern Europe. And yet we did.

We kept adding and adding. And as we added former Soviet republics into NATO or we threatened to, such as Ukraine and Georgia, the Russians got their back up and continue and continue to say that that's one thing that's unacceptable. And in fact, you can kind of argue that Russia's invasion of Georgia was to make them on a war footing and unacceptable for NATO membership. Part of NATO membership is you can't really be in the middle of a civil war when you become a NATO member. It also may have been the provocation says, hey, we're going to go ahead and invade Eastern Ukraine as well, because it makes them less palatable to be admitted immediately into NATO. But it certainly is a provocation. Kissinger has mentioned this.

Others have mentioned this. But to get to peace, we also need to realize that most wars end with a negotiated peace settlement. Almost no wars end unconditionally. But in the U.S., we've been programmed to think it ends like World War Two. You drop an atomic bomb and then there's an unconditional peace or unconditional surrender.

But I don't think that's going to happen. And right now, Ukraine is saying, Zelensky is saying he will not negotiate. There'll be no ceasefire, no stopping to the killing until Russia leaves not only eastern Ukraine, but also Crimea, where they've been since 2014. I think that's unlikely and means the killing goes on longer. That's right. And then if we supply unlimited arms, then there's also no incentive for them to negotiate.

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Billionaire backer Tomas Petterfi assures, quote, Money would be there. Bill Barr telling him to put his oar in. I'm having a hard time believing this. I actually like Glenn Youngkin. He's a little too moderate for my taste, but I actually think he's very smart. I don't think he's going to do it. He has seen how all these other candidates have just been smoked. He very well might be doing the summit as just a way to raise money for the Virginia House of Representatives races or the House of Delegates races.

And honestly, he's the best Republican we can have for Virginia. Governor Youngkin, let me give you some unsolicited advice. Do not do this. It will not go well for you. No matter how many donors tell you it's going to go well for you. No matter how much money is promised to you.

No matter how many consultants come to you. Do not do this. I like you. I like what you're doing. You're a strong Republican.

Especially since you're in the state of Virginia. Don't do this to yourself. Don't become a mockery. Don't become an end of a joke.

Don't become all those different things. The consultants are all saying, come and run again. The people who tell you that you can win are the people who get a paycheck. Even if you don't, they win no matter what. But you lose. Even if somebody were to put up a billion dollars behind Glenn Youngkin, it doesn't matter. Even if someone were to put up two billion dollars, Trump is going to be the nominee. But, boy, this is a really sad story. What is the buried lead of Glenn Youngkin even thinking about running?

What is the buried lead? We were on this early. The rise and fall of the presidential candidacy of Governor Ron DeSantis.

He was supposed to be the guy. He had I mean, you want to talk about if you had a stock chart of Governor Ron DeSantis in January versus now. Have we seen a stock plummet as far? I mean, maybe Governor Scott Walker and they don't understand Trump is not a candidate. Trump has become a movement. And I wish Governor DeSantis has been a terrific governor. Glenn Youngkin has been a good governor. Go back and be a governor. Run your state.

Not everything has to be about ladder climbing. And, you know, some people say, well, Charlie, you sound scared of Youngkin. No, I really don't. As a Trump supporter, I don't. Trump will eat you for lunch. He will obliterate you. He will shred you. It doesn't go well for anybody in a Republican primary. I don't care if you're six foot seven and you've been in private equity and you have a bunch of your own money. I don't want you to make the same DeSantis error.

It weakens our bench. Much rather have you focus on governing Virginia, win back the House of Delegates, be a strong conservative governor for the future. Maybe even Glenn Youngkin running for a U.S. Senate seat and flipping one of those Virginia senators like Tim Kaine.

That would be great. Having Glenn Youngkin in the U.S. Senate and flipping one of those Virginians, he can obviously win statewide. He's very, very well liked. Don't run against Trump. It's not going to end well for you.

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