How to Win Gen Z with Isabel Brown and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene

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That's always how I'm going to introduce you. Isabel, the most important thing on her bio. Isabel, I wanted to have you on. You did a great job on whatever with all of the only fan hookers or whatever that is on there.

You did a really great job. I want to play one of the pieces of tape here. Isabel, you've come on our program a lot. For people that remember back during all the January 6 stuff, I think you were on almost every single day, it was a lot of fun. So I want to play this piece of tape here and then talk about you going on this whatever thing, literally it's called whatever, and talk about young ladies in general because it segues beautifully to something we talked about yesterday.

Let's play cut 104, please. Do you think that you have a right to ****? Yeah.

What makes you say that? Because it's my reproductive right. It was given to me to do to have children. What's the purpose of ****? To have children. Arguably, **** has two purposes.

A, create new human life, which I think our society has forgotten about. B, emotionally bond with the person that you're having **** with. That's what your brain is designed to do. Every time that you have some intercourse, your brain releases oxytocin and it makes you feel emotionally bonded to that person, which is why hookup culture is so damaging because it's not transactional. It's not supposed to be transactional.

It's supposed to be bonding. I think that line of thinking is what's led to an extremely pro-abortion culture. I think that's what's led to an extremely pro-hookup culture.

I think that's what's led to women being stuck in this zone and men being stuck in a zone of not being able to have a meaningful connection. Isabelle, elaborate. The floor is yours. Thank you so much for having me, Charlie. It's a pleasure to be back on the show. I was very fortunate several months ago to be a guest on the Whatever podcast, which has been going very viral on social media because of clips just like this one, mostly purporting women being cycling in this OnlyFans and hookup and pornography culture that is so damaging to the women of our generation. I had the unique opportunity to be surrounded by people who fundamentally disagreed with my worldview, but was very profoundly surprised to find that most of these women were just lacking the opportunity to have been told the truth in their life. They'd never been challenged on their beliefs of abortion or hookup culture or even pornography and OnlyFans. And just being willing to sit down and have the conversation was so powerful to reach millions of people in clips just like this one.

Yeah, so Isabelle, let's just educate our audience that isn't as aware. This is a show called Whatever, right, has four million subscribers. And basically it is OnlyFans girls and, you know, pseudo hookers that basically defend hookup culture, free sex, and they seem, the young ladies on that program seem very angry. So talk about that. And their politics are radically left wing. It's probably one of the more influential shows when it comes to talking about sex and relationship, relations and all that. So educate our audience on the impact of that.

Absolutely, Charlie. And I will say, just in general, the world of dating podcasts and content like this almost always invariably skews to the radical left. It is extremely pro transactional sex.

It is extremely pro dating app. It is extremely anti marriage or family. And so having the opportunity to bring a countercultural narrative and objective truth to the women of our generation who are also non coincidentally skewing overwhelmingly to the left has never been more important than it is today. The young woman in the pink sweater who I was talking to in that video admitted to being a former recovering sex addict on the panel. We also had an active OnlyFans creator and another woman who was actively shooting pornography videos as a part of this conversation. But when you start asking the right questions and you peel back some layers of defensive anger there, what's really fascinating to me is every single woman sitting around that table eventually came to agree with me that modern feminism was destroying women's happiness. That we should all be quitting our hormonal birth control pills because it's poisoning us and destroying our body's ability to function correctly. And that hookup culture was making them feel really empty and lonely inside. So being willing to talk to people who might disagree with you is really the only way that we're able to change culture from the inside out.

And to their credit, they allow disagreement on their show. And to your credit, you did a great job. So let's kind of elaborate on part of this.

So let's put 65 up, Isabel. I went to Northern Arizona University. You're familiar, you did this at Colorado State and Fort Collins a lot with our Turning Point USA chapter. And it just so happens, Isabel, I was surrounded by almost all women.

Now, they wouldn't tell me they were women because I asked them what a woman was and they said that we don't play your trick games. Really a sad state of modern academia. Isabel, but why is it that young ladies are skewing so disproportionately liberal?

And interestingly, almost all the support, there were young ladies that supported me there at NAU, but the men, they were totally on board for what I was. So explain that divide because it's only deepening. It has, and it's getting crazier as we get closer to the 2024 election, Charlie. Some recent polling came out that said the vast majority of Gen Z college-aged men are skewing very conservative while the exact opposite is true for women. And I think a lot of that has to do with traditionally how we have communicated conservative and traditional values.

The facts don't care about your feelings mantra worked really, really well to attract millennials to the conservative movement and to traditional values. But Gen Z is a very empathy-driven generation. We think about our feelings quite a bit. And maybe that has something to do with how we were educated with SEL, social emotional learning classes.

Or maybe it's because you're directly connected to the entire world, to any person on the other side of the globe with the click of one button. But empathy and feelings first really seems to be a powerful way to communicate values on either side of the aisle to Gen Z. So when we can ask a young woman, do you really care about a woman experiencing an unexpected pregnancy, for example? Or do you really care about women having the same rights and the same opportunities as men in society? Well, if you answer yes to any of those questions, really the only way for you to live your life is to embrace conservative values or traditional principles. It's a much more effective way of communicating those ideas. And I think we're playing a little bit of catch up there going into 2024, but I'm overjoyed to see so many Gen Z conservative creators really start to make headway in that space for young women in particular.

Yeah, so help me out here. I couldn't care less about people's feelings. In fact, I find that anyone who cares about feelings to be weak and it's completely irrelevant reason is what should dictate our politics.

So how do we square that with conservative values? Again, you're Gen Z, Isabelle, so I'm going to exclude you. Finally, there's a generation that America hates more than millennials and it's Gen Z. Because every bad joke was towards millennials when I was growing up.

So the young men seem to be okay about feelings, but I was talking to a lot of these young ladies on campus and you're right. I said, where do you get your morality from? Well, I do. It's what I feel. It's how I want to operate. And this is weaponized narcissism. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Walk me through it. It absolutely is. But there's no reason to believe that reason and logic cannot coexist with feelings. Ultimately, we are human beings made in the image of God, right, Charlie?

And ultimately, our emotions are what give us a soul, our ability to find the humanity in other people and connect on that shared basis of humanity through empathy is how we are supposed to find relationship with others. I have found it abundantly successful communicating to the peers of my generation, learning more from this feelings first communication style to tie it in with reason rather than beating them over the head with this is objective fact and you have to agree or else tying in that humanistic side of things is a fantastic, very effective way of communicating objective truth and conservative principles, which our generation desperately needs to hear now more than ever. And I think there's a lot to be said about Gen Z not being the brunt of everyone's joke.

There is nothing but reason to have hope for a Generation Z. We are overwhelmingly an independently thinking generation. We are overwhelmingly entrepreneurial and starting to reject the broken four year university system. We're voting more conservative over time. If you look at exit pollings from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty to twenty twenty two, we're starting to get married younger.

We're dating are ditching our dating apps and more. So lots of reasons to have hope and excitement for a generation who may think a little bit differently and communicate a little bit differently, but are hungry for purpose, objective truth and these traditional principles that we know and love in the conservative movement. I think that's well said. And for some of the young ladies I saw in Flagstaff, there was no thinking, only feeling what issues and we'll pick us up after break. What's the number one issue for most young female voters on college campuses? I think most young females are looking for a reason to be proud to be a female today. Womanhood is under attack from literally every direction in society, Charlie, and to the point that we can't even be young women anymore. We're being encouraged to run away from it.

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How should we navigate that issue especially? Because from my experience on campus, that is a top three issue, especially for young females. It absolutely is. It's a top one issue for many young female voters on either side of the coin, by the way. Pro-life Gen Zers are incredibly outspoken labeling ourselves the pro-life or post-ro generation, which is really exciting to see. I was really fortunate to do a speaking tour on college campuses last spring talking about this issue and the lies that the pro-abortion industry is telling our generation, including that men can have babies or that birth control is going to set you free. But mainly that abortion is the most empowering thing to women and that it's vital healthcare and it's just not.

We objectively know that from a reason, logic and fact perspective. But where we can communicate that reason, logic and facts often starts with saying women are in a situation of crisis most often when they are seeking an abortion. Maybe they feel financially unprepared to handle a pregnancy. Maybe they think that their autonomy is being taken away.

They might be a victim of abuse. But if we really care about that woman and we have empathy or positive feelings towards her and want to make her life better, the only way we can truly help her is not by adding more trauma to the situation, which always happens with abortion through ending the life of her child and maybe even risking her own life, not to mention making it up to six times more likely for her to commit suicide later on in her life, according to one European study. So communicating that sense of humanity, that sense of empathy and saying we're here to walk with you, let's raise money for diapers, let's help you pay your mortgage or your rent. Let's cover your prenatal costs, all of which are things that the pro-life movement is doing every day out of selflessness, empathy and humanity, but often don't get to be a part of the conversation because we're so focused on fact, fact, fact. So the for a young female activist that might be experiencing a lot of backlash or condemnation for their pro-life beliefs, walk through some of your biography, why it's necessary to speak truth despite all the opposition.

I have been called every horrible name in the book, Charlie, as you know, and you've experienced as well, starting on my college campus, which I talk a lot about in my first book, all the way to being professionally harassed online as a content creator now. But the truth is the backlash and the hatred that you get from this world, especially when you are committed to speaking objective truth, often means you are walking in exactly the right direction. Well before I am ever a conservative, well before I ever speak about political issues, I am a Christian and I believe it's my job and my responsibility every day to get up and tell people the truth because the truth has a name and that is Jesus Christ. But we are promised over and over again from Jesus Christ himself that we are going to be hated, we're going to be persecuted, we might lose our safety or even our life for being committed to sharing the truth with a world rejecting that very concept. But that's okay because this world is not our home. The next one is and we're called to try to make this one a little bit more like heaven if finding the humanity in every single person, namely on this very important issue of abortion that has taken away one third of our generation that should be here today.

And sadly isn't simply because of the abortion industry alone is a great way to get there, then there's no greater honor than getting called all of those horrible names in the book. Isabelle, plug your live stream and your social media as we close out. We go live every single day on my long form social media and video platforms to talk about the biggest cultural issues from a Gen Z perspective just like this one and you can follow me on social media at TheIsabelleBrown. Very good. Isabelle, thanks so much. Congrats on all your success. We'll have you back on soon. Thank you.

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Andrew and Todd.com. Welcome back, Marjorie Taylor Greene, to the program. Marjorie, thank you for taking time today. I want to first give you an opportunity, Marjorie, to tell us about a declaration of war against the cartels, a piece of legislation that you're putting forward.

If I'm misunderstanding, please correct me, but the floor is yours. Charlie, today in Washington, D.C., we have President Zelensky came to the Capitol today, of course, talking to leaders with Washington wanting billions and billions more dollars, Americans' hard-earned tax dollars, to go to a war in Ukraine defending Ukraine's border, while at the same time, Washington, D.C. is completely ignoring the invasion happening at our border. There has been over 10,000 people invade Eagle Pass in the last 24 hours.

This is unprecedented. Our country is under attack, and who is leading the attack, Charlie, is the Mexican cartels. And so I'm announcing on your show that I would like to get Washington to realize who our real enemy is to the American people, who's responsible for 300 Americans dying every single day from fentanyl, who's responsible for a multibillion-dollar human trafficking and drug trafficking industry that directly affects the United States of America. And that is the Mexican cartels, not the Mexican government, not the Mexican people.

So I am currently drafting a declaration of war against the Mexican cartels. And I'd like to challenge anyone in Washington that beats the drums of war and beats their chest about fighting Russia to wake up and realize the oath of office they took as to the United States and the American people and to defend our borders. And if they want to talk big like that, then they should defend our country. And that is what the Defense Department is all about, is defending America, defending Americans and our states. And they are failing on the job poorly, very, very poorly.

Yes, they are. And what is nauseating, Marjorie, you have to serve with them, is so many Republicans seem infatuated with Zelensky and they couldn't care less that yesterday. And we have the B-roll here, thousands and thousands of fighting-age young men, not DNA tested, not background checked. We don't know who these people are just waltzing right into America to invade the country. Can you give me, help me understand why do so many Republicans not care about America, but they care about a foreign country that most Americans can't pick out on a map? What is going on in their head? I can't comprehend it, Charlie. Some of them tell me that, well, we made an agreement with Ukraine years ago when they got rid of their nuclear weapons that we would help defend that country. But here's the situation. We aren't defending our own country. And Charlie, I just said to you that I'm writing a declaration of war against Mexican cartels. You didn't bat an eye. I'm sure you completely agree with me.

Of course I do. The fact we haven't done that, it shouldn't even be controversial. We should be, we should have tanks, drones, weapons. We should control our border the way Israel controls their border. Full military, full out stop. And so I didn't bat an eye because we absolutely should be going after the cartels.

We should go after the leaders for war crimes. They're putting, I mean, it shouldn't even be controversial. I'm glad you're doing it, Marjorie. Realistically, it's probably not going to do anything because the Senate's not going to pick it up, but I'm glad you're doing it.

I'm just trying to understand why, I'm confused why Republicans have such indifference to the wellbeing of America and yet they bring out the pom-poms for an uppity foreigner in a t-shirt. Well, let me explain what's happening today. So we just had a rule vote for the defense appropriation bill. I voted no. I was one of a handful of Republicans. I was deciding vote. I voted no and tanked the rule. And the reason why I tanked the rule is because they refuse to take the money out of the bill that's going to go for the war in Ukraine. And I had been telling everyone for weeks and weeks, I've been saying it since the beginning of this Congress, I will not vote to fund a penny to a war in Ukraine. I told them in our conference meetings, I told them to their faces. I told them over and over and over, I will not vote for this. And they still brought it to the floor.

They forced my hand. I voted no, like I said I would. And now we're up here arguing up here in Washington about Ukraine money being in the defense bill. And there's many Republicans that just want to keep it in there. In the meantime, completely ignoring the invasion at the southern border. It's an invasion. Stop calling them migrants. Stop saying these people are seeking asylum.

That is a complete lie. Our country sends so much foreign aid to those countries they come from. We could have solved all their country's problems years ago, but it gets pocketed into their corrupt administration and dictator's pockets.

And then they send all their people to our country. Enough of this, Charlie. It has to end. And I'll tell you something. You know, people said it was impossible when I introduced articles of impeachment on Joe Biden's first day in office.

And I want to tell you something. Today, we have an impeachment inquiry and many members of Congress and the American people believe that Joe Biden should be impeached. So this may seem outrageous today, but I'm going to tell you, I guarantee just like you support it and your viewers support this, many Americans will support this because they know who the true enemy is. Whether you live in Texas, whether you live in New York, whether you live in California, wherever you live in the country, we are getting overrun with people invading our country and it's unsustainable. It is unsustainable.

And the true enemy of the American people is the Democrat Party and RINO Republicans. So let's walk the timeline here, Marjorie. And you're fighting. And I'm just I'm in a little bit of a ticked off mood today.

It's not you. I'm just so sick of these people, right? We have to go worship the fake pagan altar of the Ukrainian abstraction while our country is just invaded.

Again, that B roll, that B roll is just nonstop. So I want to know we got nine days to nine thirty. What can we expect, Marjorie? And please, just if it's if it's awful news, tell us the awful news. If Don Bacon and Dusty Johnson are just going to do a C.R. deal, the Democrats, it's better for us to know now. Are we going to get Jack Smith funding cut? Are we going to get any border stuff or Ukraine stuff? Walk us through how the next nine days are going to unfold. Charlie, I'm glad to tell you the truth.

I always do. I came to Washington with three red lines. I said no money for Ukraine, no money for covid anything. Covid is over. And I said no money for the weaponized government. I've told them all week long I'm not voting for Ukraine funding. And I voted down the rule for the defense appropriation bill.

And I'll continue to do it until they get it out. Here's where we stand on the special counsels. I've introduced an amendment and I have legislation that will rightfully return the responsibility to Congress to fund special counsels. It takes it away from the Department of Justice. So for anyone watching at home right now, we cannot defund Jack Smith's special counsel as it stands right now, because that is the Department of Justice holds the slush fund for special counsels. My amendment, my legislation, if the rest of my colleagues would agree to it, will return, and it's constitutional, return the authority to Congress to fund special counsels. And that's our only hope for stopping Jack Smith's special counsel, for getting rid of David Weiss, who's doing nothing but protecting Hunter Biden. And that's the only chance we have.

So I'm fighting for that up here, and I'll keep fighting for it. But what we'll have going into September 30, Charlie, is a gigantic mess. What I hear this morning is that we have a group called the Problem Solvers. It's a group mix of Republicans and Democrats who are all talking with the entire Democrat conference, making a CR plan that would fund the government for like 60 days. I think it does something on the border, but not enough for any of us. It does do maybe a 1% cut in spending. This is something I will not vote for. Most Republicans probably will not vote for it, but that is something that is being talked about. The Senate right now is working on a clean CR to send over to the House. And then we still have the Byron Donald CR, which still has funding for Ukraine in it. I don't care how many times Byron Donald tries to tell people it doesn't have Ukraine money.

It does. It's called the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, and that's the same money that's in the defense bill right now. So I'm a no on that CR, and it also doesn't do anything about the weaponized government. What I can tell you, Charlie, is we're at basically a week of wasted time trying to buy four more weeks to pass our appropriation bills, when we should have been here all August and gotten our jobs done. Whose decision was it to take an August recess that made French workers look like industrial commitment? The country's falling apart, and you guys took like a six-week vacation.

Whose decision was that? Well, that's whoever makes up that House calendar, and I certainly am not on that committee and have no control over it. And unfortunately, Charlie, that's water under the bridge. I can complain that we didn't stay here and do it, but it's too late for that too.

So here we are in this situation. The only thing that we can do in the Republican conference is do what the American people do back home, and that is get to work. And so we had an over two-hour conference meeting last night where everybody went up to the microphone and said what they thought and talked about what they wanted to do. And I stood up there again, Charlie, and I told him, I'm not voting for Ukraine funding.

I'm not voting for the weaponized government, and I'm not voting for COVID anything. And we have to do something about the border, and the bill still came to the floor this morning with Ukraine money in it. So the only thing we can do is get back in the room and argue with each other until we can get things right and find some way to move forward.

But right now, we can't find any way to move forward. But if I were to be honest, this whole thing is a mess. I mean, you guys had all summer to figure this out, and it's like this last-minute fire. It's like a Chinese fire drill. People are running all over the place, running into each other, and everyone's pointing at each other. You've got Matt Gaetz talking about vacating the chair, and they're finding documents in the bathroom.

You've got people all over the place, right? And it's not a good look for the party. It's not a good look for the caucus. It doesn't make us look like a serious party.

It doesn't. And I wish we could get it solved. So I know you don't want to out any of your colleagues, Marjorie. We're all fired up. I mean, you're literally declaring war on the cartels, which is great.

But this 930 thing is firing me up. I mean, I guess the excuses some of the moderates give is we're going to lose the House. What are they telling you if we don't fight?

Tell us. So a lot of the disagreement last night in our conference meeting was about top-line spending numbers. And this is something that every single Republican agrees on. Our debt is out of control. We're at $33 trillion, and it's the overspending in Washington that got us here. But in our conference meeting, they were arguing about multiple different top-line spending numbers, and all the numbers that they were arguing over were all cuts in spending. So that is something that we should easily be able to come to is the fact that we are cutting spending, and we're doing a good job of it with our appropriation bills.

And then we need to move forward. And it's so important, and I was telling everyone, Charlie, that, look, you don't hear people at home yelling their heads off about the difference between $1.42 trillion and $1.56 trillion. No, you don't hear them saying that. What they are saying is they're saying stop funding a war in Ukraine. They're saying shut the border down. They're saying secure our country. They're saying do something about the transgender attack on our children. Stop these transgender surgeries on kids. They're saying stop grooming our children. These are the things and the issues that people are talking about.

They're saying don't ever make me wear a mask again. Don't force me to take a vaccine. Investigate the VAERS reports.

Why are vaccines causing injuries and deaths? These are the issues that Americans are talking about, but those were none of the issues that we were talking about in our conference meeting last night. And so that is what I tried to bring up to everyone is that, yes, we are going to cut spending, and we have to, but we can't do anything about the national debt unless we work on it for probably 10 years or more. It is such a crisis. It's going to take a 10-year plan to balance the budget. It can't be done in one CR that lasts for 30 days or 60 days, and it can't be done in one year's appropriation bills.

It's impossible, but what we can do is we can hold the red lines that Republican voters care about. They care about election integrity. They care about the border. It is a crisis. It is a crisis, which is why I'm pointing the finger at who we should be blaming and who we should be declaring war on, which is the Mexican cartels, not the Mexican government, not the Mexican people, not Russia, not any other country. It's the cartels who are responsible, and they're profiting by the billions for human trafficking and drug trafficking, and we can't even find nearly 100,000 migrant children in our country. And over in Ukraine, Charlie, by the way, we hadn't even talked about this, the country that Mitch McConnell and Schumer and Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton and everybody can't wait to give another $100 billion to.

Ukraine is one of the worst countries on the earth for child sex trafficking, and they're harvesting children's organs over there, and this is a disgusting country. And we have Zelensky in the Capitol, the Capitol today, walking around in his green jumpsuit. He can't even put on a tie.

He's worse than Fetterman. So we're in such a bad place, Charlie, that I'm willing to be honest about it, and we can't fix it until Republicans get focused on the things that our voters actually care about, and we get serious about fixing the problem. Well, look, and Marjorie, you don't have to say anything about this, but I'm so sick of these people. Shut it all down.

Throw away the keys. Say thanks for playing. Go back home to your constituents, because this is so completely out of control. I have contempt for the leaders of the Republican Party that are entertaining this grifter in the jumpsuit.

Walk around the halls of Congress while we're being invaded. I'm done. And if they're not going to cut spending, if they're going to fund Jack Smith, have a nice time.

We don't have to fund the government. So I am out of patience. We appreciate your fight, Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Our audience shares it, though. I've never seen cynicism so high, never seen negativity so high, lack of just any sort of vision. And I'll just say it again. We knew that this September 30th deadline was coming from the new Congress in, and all of a sudden we have this like hair on fire moment as if you got Byron Donald trying to break a deal and you got Dusty Johnson. Just shut it down. Start from square one. Get everyone in a room.

Calm everyone down, because it's better to have no deal, quite honestly, at this point. Marjorie, thank you for fighting. We appreciate you. Thank you. Thanks, Charlie. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always. Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com.

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