Seven Counties in Three States with Rich Baris

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That is tpusa.com. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country. That's why we are here.

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Let's just be very clear. The 14th Amendment stuff, see, we monitor this so closely on this program. We saw the 14th Amendment play as it was happening and we jumped and we pounced on it.

Now it's kind of in the zeitgeist. You have Adam Schiff and Jen Psaki talking about it, but we were right on the mark. I remember, boom, as soon as it came out in the Atlantic New York Times, we connected the dots. We mobilized you, the audience, and it became national news.

Charlie Kirk show audience pours calls into New Hampshire is very, very quick. And now Adam Schiff is saying that there's legitimacy to the 14th Amendment discussion. But sometimes the media is behind the curve. One of the things I've been talking about as I travel the country and I talk to grassroots groups, which I love, is how confused the oligarchs are, the insiders, about you.

They're very confused because there was a formula that was developed and the formula is very simple. Use the playbook that Yuri Bezmenov, KGB spy, articulated with indictments, smearing, slandering, deplatforming, raiding of people's homes, bottom up, top down Michigan electors. Get Trump a mugshot. Go after every single one of the type of political leaders, the humorists.

Douglas Mackey, the political strategist, Steve Bannon, the filmmakers, Dinesh D'Souza. Take Tucker Carlson off the airwaves. Get James O'Keefe out of Project Veritas. The formula is how can we get, you could call it MAGA, the conservative movement, flyover country.

I call it the decent half of the country. How can we get you demoralized? How can we get you to give up?

That has been the goal. You are living through an act of measure. As we have said before, you are living through a cultural revolution. And the way that they make the cultural revolution come to fruition, to come to completion, is by invoking your surrender.

You have every reason to give up. In fact, some of the sunshine patriots send me emails all the time, Charlie, this is too much for me. I'm done.

The raids, the smearing, the slandering. In fact, I could tell you about a conversation I had with a very wealthy man a couple years ago. And he said, I'm leaving the country. And he did. He went to Malaysia. He said, I'm done. He said, this is too much for me. He revoked his U.S. citizenship.

Very wealthy guy. He said, Charlie, I don't want to live in this country anymore. It's unrecognizable.

Sunshine patriot. I got rather upset. It was a little bit of a contentious conversation.

Maybe he'll come back once we save the country. There's plenty of people like that. But all of a sudden, you're seeing a little bit of whispers in the media, and they're saying, it's not working the way we thought it would. They thought you would be giving up by now. They were convinced by the second indictment or the third indictment or that sentencing or 1,200 people in front of January 6 here.

And eventually, the dam would break. And Donna Brazile, who's not my favorite person, has one of the wisest 30 to 40 second tapes I've heard. And I don't say that. It's legitimately wise what she is saying. And she's saying it, of course, to try to excite Democrat fervor, to wake people up. She might be even engaging in a little bit hyperbole, a little bit, but you could tell she believes this. Now, I'm not a, let's say, enthusiast of the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche.

He did have a phrase that is used and misused. What does not kill you makes you stronger. And she asks the question, what the heck is going on? These people don't give up. These people don't break.

They bend, but they don't break. We indict them. We audit them. We smear them. We slander them. We call them racist. We call them anti-Semites.

We kick them off social media. And they only get more enthusiastic. This is Donna Brazile, who, again, I don't appreciate a lot of her commentary, but she committed the crime of noticing on ABC.

And she's not the only one. I'm going to play some other pieces of tape. They're all saying the same thing.

And we've been ahead of the curve here on this, which I told you, you hold the line. You don't give up. You keep showing up. You keep on praying. You keep on fasting. You keep on going to school board meetings. You keep on drafting candidates. Watch out, everybody. Listen carefully. It's a longer clip.

Play cut two. I've seen two movements outside of the social justice movements in my life on the political side. One was the Reagan movement. Reagan had a hold on his base, the country at large. They saw him as someone who was willing to stand up for American values, whatever that might have meant. Now, I thought it was reactionary. The other movement I saw was Barack Obama. Hope and change. That galvanized the American people.

I've never seen anything like this with Donald Trump. I mean, what doesn't kill you make you stronger. I mean, being convicted. I mean, being indicted.

That's making them stronger. Raising $10 million using an ugly mugshot to raise money. This is a movement. And anyone who thinks that you can apply the old political rules to try to defeat this candidate based on he's scary, he's ugly, whatever you might want to call him. This is a movement.

And we have to respect the fact that it's a move. That's a powerful clip, Donna. Brazil.

That is a power. You get it, Donna. Brazil more than Karl Rove does right now. Donna. Brazil is speaking more truth than most Uniparty consultants. See, Donna. Brazil wants Democrats to hold on to power. Donna.

Brazil has been around for multiple decades. Remember, she leaked questions to Hillary Clinton. She's a partisan.

Remember the Donna. Brazil debate issue with the she's she's not fair and balanced. Okay, I get it. She believes that she believes she hates Trump, but she understands politics. Remember, she's the former head of the DNC, hyper-partisan. But seriously, this is a movement. This is a movement. This is not the old laws of politics. You indict the figure, you go after the followers.

It just breaks and people go back to drinking, whatever, Bud Light and watching TV. But something's different here. Something is different. There's a resolve. There is this phrase that was coined by Nassim Taleb.

We've used it before, but it's worth kind of bringing back here. It's this idea of anti-fragility. So if you use perseverance, use the idea of endurance, use the idea that they're tough, that means you could go through tough times. The idea of being anti-fragile, there's a whole book written on it, is that the institution, the company, the person, the organization, actually gets stronger the more adversity you push upon it.

That the more you persecute, the more you punish, the more that you try to destroy, it actually strengthens it. And all of a sudden, you see the Mockingbird Media, buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh, they're like waking up post-Labor Day. And they're saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Bring it back. Bring it back.

Bring it back. Donna Brazile's saying this is a movement raising tens of millions of dollars, stronger than ever. And they're saying the quiet part out loud that we will not break. And they've never seen anything like it. They are used to the Vichy French Republicans. They're used to the turtle. They're used to Lady Graham. They're used to the moderates who just say, enough, you called me a bad name.

What can I do to make it right? No, no, no, there's a new sheriff in town running the conservative movement. Play cut four. We do have new polling from the Wall Street Journal that has President Joe Biden and Donald Trump in a dead heat in a 2024 general election matchup in the survey. Forty six percent say they would vote for Biden, while forty six percent say they would vote for Trump.

Eight percent say they are undecided. So in this conversation, mixing this and really shows you where the country's at, Joe. Well, and it's changed.

I mean, just the rest of the tape is just if you look at their faces, they're stunned. What? I thought you, you deplorable, smelly people would give up. I was told by all my professor friends, you guys would be suing for peace.

There's no suing for peace. There's only victory. And we know it's going to be tough. We know it's going to take work.

We signed up for that a long time ago. You guys declared war on us and all of a sudden you're wondering why it's not going as well. Their war on the conservative movement is failing the same way that their financing of the Ukrainian counter offensive against Russia is failing. They're confused. What's going on?

Why are these people not giving up? We know appeasement is not an option. We're going to beat you. We're going to defeat you. It's going to take time.

It's going to take a new generation. But we want it more than you do right now. You want it more than us because you control the institutions, but we've just started to fight.

Like today, in the last couple of months, we just started to fight. Game on. And the weak-kneed, fragile types on MSNBC and the Mockingbird media, I don't know if they have the stomach for what's coming next. You have had every reason to surrender, to give up, and you haven't.

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Guess what, Eugene Robinson is literally, if you would just take the script of this, Eugene Robinson is saying exactly what the Charlie Kirk show and Turning Point Action have been saying. I've been telling this to donors and they're like, oh, what about Mickey Helius? Guys, focus, focus, focus, focus, focus. We're not good at that in the conservative movement. Oh, wow, look, Mike Pence is running.

Again, it's like, guys, focus. Seven counties, three states, seven counties, three states. Well, what about, no, seven counties, three states. But Eugene Robinson on MSNBC is literally singing off of the song sheet of Turning Point Action. For those of you that are devout fans and really watch the Charlie Kirk show, thank you, listen on radio, you know that we have been singing this tune since January of this year. We've done the math. We figured it out. I went on Tim Pool's show and walked through it. And now, ta-da, the Mockingbird Media is saying the quiet part out loud.

Play cut 16. What this this poll, I think, does it should lay out to Democrats that this this is going to be a close election. They can't take anything for granted. If they should assume it's going to be decided by perhaps tens of thousands of voters in the swing states that we all know about and and they better get cracking now because there's a real risk.

Yeah, there's a real risk. This is why we have been so like almost pathologically focused on the mechanics of elections. Can we chase ballots? Can we register voters? Have we secured our elections?

Fulton County, Cobb County, Maricopa, Pima, Pinal, Gwinnett, Kenosha, Dane, Milwaukee. If you cannot name them off over and over again, you're not serious. And the Republican apparatus, they're like, oh, well, we're doing this thing for gay Hispanics in Seattle. We've got enough, OK?

How about you focus on the seven counties? You have zero full time people right now in Arizona, turning point action. We have 15. We're hiring even more. We're doing what we can. We're raising the capital for it. And here is MSNBC saying, oh, my goodness, it's going to come down to tens of thousands of votes. Yeah, we've been telling you this the whole time.

By the way, buried lead. I hate to don't hate to do it, because when you're right, you should actually remind people. Cornel West getting 2% in the Wall Street Journal poll told you guys, Cornel West, glitch in the matrix, changes the ball game. We've been saying that. We've been looking at Cornel West. They say, do not underestimate this guy, 2% in the poll.

No labels might be drafting a candidate soon. This ball game is winnable, but we've got to get to work. What does work look like? Focus on the seven counties, support the grassroots warriors that are doing it, and you have to believe. I know I'm going to tell you something that is really scary for some of you.

You have to have what I call cautious hope. I took some time off this weekend, and I saw our beautiful national parks in Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons, and there was a very, there was like this almost transcendent moment I had as I was overlooking one of the beautiful lakes, and I saw the mountain, and I had to stop myself. I turned my phone off for a couple days.

It was amazing. And I stopped myself. I said, oh, boy, here we go again. I have real hope. We can win.

And I said, well, Charlie, that's great. That's dangerous, though. When you have put to bed cynicism of the intel agencies, the big companies, and all that, you actually believe you can win, you then open the door for disappointment.

But then you act. If you have hope, you act with more courage, with more conviction. I really do believe we can win this thing 100%. It will be hard. We are the underdog. Somebody's facing 900 years in prison, or like a half of a millennia in prison.

It doesn't matter. We've been bruised so many times, kicked in. At that moment, I said, oh, my goodness, we can do this.

We can do this. The indictments were not what they thought it would be. Independents are starting to come our way.

There's an unpopular president, third-party candidates. They've already emptied their clip of everything they could shoot at us. They're going to come up with more. Like, hold on a second. We can do this, but we've got to get to work.

Anyone who tells you differently, they're cynical, they're pessimists. Get out of the way. There's an opening. There's a chance. For such a time as this, you live in a time where you could do the impossible, where everything is against you.

This would make 2016 look like child's play, and it can be done. Dare to hope and get to work. Do you get the feeling that something bad is going to happen soon? Well, I do.

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PrepareWithKirk.com. We'll have Rich Barris in a second, but I want to play a couple of these pieces of tape. This is a deeper point. It has nothing to do with why we have Rich Barris on the program, but I'm just going to kind of put this to the side. I want you to think about it, and we'll do a segment on this. We are a less fun country than we were that I grew up in. We don't laugh as much. We take things way too seriously.

We are way more likely to be offended and angry. Could you imagine these three clips on network television as America is today? Play cut 24. All right. Okay. Kelly, how are you?

I just had the longest meeting. Oh, welcome to my convenience store. Would you like some googie-googie? I have some very delicious googie-googie.

Only 99 cents plus tax. Try my googie-googie. Try my googie-googie. Try my googie-googie.

Try my googie-googie. That could land you in federal prison now. No, I'm kidding. Well, maybe. Now, by the way, just the premise of this episode is that Michael Scott gets in trouble for saying something racist.

So he kind of puts on his own diversity day, and they bring in like the corporate DEI expert — this was ridiculing DEI before it was a thing. Play cut 25. Oh, this is a good one. Um, hi. How are you? Fine.

How are you? Push it. Great. Push it. Um… I admire your culture success in America.

Thank you. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Come on. Olympics of suffering right here.

Slavery versus the Holocaust. Come on. So am I supposed to be… It's going to percolate. No, no, no. Well, that was inadvertent.

We didn't actually plan that. If that makes you cringe, you're living in a propagandized society. That is funny and was funny.

People are saying, OMG, Charlie, I can't believe you're playing this. This was network television in 2005. Network television. Not HBO. Not Showtime. Not some fringe YouTuber. This was NBC.

Finally, play cut 26. Um, shalom. I'd like to apply for a loan. That's nice, Dwight. Okay, do me. Something stereotypical so I can get it really quick. Okay, I like your food. Uh, Outback Steakhouse.

I'm Australian, mate. I like your food. No, come on. Stir the pot. Stir the melting pot. Bam.

Let's do it. If I have to do this, based on stereotypes that are totally untrue, that I do not agree with, you would maybe not be a very good driver. Oh man, am I a woman? If that makes you cringe, you're living in an unfree country. We used to be able to make fun of ourselves, fun of the stereotypes around us, and we got along better. I miss that country. Joining us now is Rich Barris, who's here for a completely unrelated topic, but I just needed to land the plane. Rich, how you doing? You have some, I hope you got a chuckle out of that because that was a better country and we got to bring it back.

Rich Barris, how you doing? Thanks for having me, Charlie. I did get a chuckle out of it.

All the best as always, my friend. I was thinking about Golden Girls too, Charlie. You know, when I was a kid, there's things Stell Getty said that you would just never be able to say. Betty White and the jokes. But it was hilarious. And when we disagreed, that was all right. That was OK. You know, we mocked all of each other equally, basically.

It was great. So Rich Barris, let's get into some of the polling that you have. There's been a lot of chatter over the weekend. Trump v Biden nearly tied.

We've been saying for a while this is going to come down to basically seven or eight counties in three states. Eugene Robinson agrees. Riff on that.

And then I want to play the Eugene Robinson tape. Rich Barris. Yeah. I mean, I've seen some other polls that do have him up a little bit.

I sent it over to you guys. You know, our poll is close. I mean, Trump has an edge, but it's close, Charlie. So I do think, though, that he is a stronger position to win this year than the prior year. But nevertheless, you know, I'm not look not nobody should be looking at an eight point landslide.

So this will be down to those key states that we've talked about over and over. Yeah. And so Eugene Robinson is saying this. Let's play this tape here. And he all of a sudden woke up. The media woke up this weekend. Rich Barris.

And they did. Donna. Donna.

Brazil. It is very important, everybody. And all of a sudden the signals are out. Right. Signals are out texting group chats.

And they're like, whoa, whoa. Time out. This is not how we really thought it would be.

We thought it would be a 10 point race. Biden up comfortably. Trump in the gutter. None of that is happening. Eugene Robinson is like, guys, post Labor Day, entering the primary season. Not looking good.

Play cut 16. What this this poll, I think, does, it should lay out to Democrats that this this is going to be a close election. They can't take anything for granted if they should assume it's going to be decided by perhaps tens of thousands of voters in the swing states that we all know about. And and they better get cracking now because there's a real risk. Real risk.

Rich Barris. And I'll play another tape here that I think is instructive. But Eugene Robinson, Mockingbird, Morning Joe, they've transitioned from Donald Trump being into political irrelevancy. That was the talking point in May. Right. It was that he's done. He's within a couple of points at DeSantis to now the big shift, massive hysterical like we actually have to have an election. We have to have an election.

I thought we were going to select our leaders. This wasn't going to happen. Right. Right. So, Rich, how should we think about this and then tell us some polls have Trump up five, six, seven points. Is that is that realistic? You know, I think that's, you know, something we had seen a year or so ago at the height of when Republicans were polling really strong in the generic ballot.

But it was always going to tighten, Charlie. This is a divided country, regardless of how one party may do better one year and the next party. Donald Trump lost the election by a slimmer number of votes than he won 2016.

It was they threw everything at him and it was still that close. But this time there are key groups, demographic groups, Charlie, that this is different than 2020. And this is even different than 2016. And I got to tell you, if he hasn't plummeted yet, despite all the loaded questions that you see in the CNN poll that just came out, you know, if, you know, he's convicted, if he did this wrong, if he did that wrong, elections are A.B.

tests. And even if Trump was to be convicted on some of these things, some people are not going to care. It's going to be the guy who's gotten convicted by his political opponent versus the guy who did the the prosecuting because he's in he's alleged to have been taking bribes and hostile foreign nations. I mean, so people are really blowing this out of proportion.

Donna Brazile was hands down. My favorite clip from the weekend, because she's like, you better wake up, guys. This is a movement. This doesn't stop this. You can't you got to respect it and you can't stop him with the traditional stuff.

You know, you cannot you can't think like that. That was Donna Brazile's way of saying, wake up. He's going to win. If he's going to win right now, he would win.

Wake up. And by the way, Harry Enten on CNN has been trying to tell people this for months. And he's one of the few people in the election mafia who does what I do that had been on us with people. You know that the fact of the matter is Trump never had this strength in 2020 against Joe Biden. He did not have this strength even against Hillary Clinton. Polls shifted a little bit last minute in the battleground states.

They were not like this. We just pulled Florida. That's one state that blew wide open. Trump is ahead of Joe Biden in Florida with and without West on the ballot by seven and eight points. Charlie, I have never in my career pulled a lead that big in the state of Florida for a presidential election.

Never, never. It's always two points, maybe three points. You know, you don't win Florida by eight points. And Trump would crush Joe Biden in Florida right now at the presidential level. Very different than gubernatorial election.

I believe that. So I want to play this piece of tape here talking about Donna Brazile, one of the smartest pieces of commentary. Again, I'm not a fan of her. She's a total partisan, but she had this like rare glimmer of wisdom.

Play cut to. I've seen two movements outside of the social justice movements in my life on the political side. One was the Reagan movement. Reagan had a hold on his base, the country at large.

They saw him as someone who was willing to stand up for American values, whatever that might have meant. Now, I thought it was reactionary. The other movement I saw was Barack Obama, hope and change that galvanized the American people. I've never seen anything like this with Donald Trump.

I mean, what doesn't kill you make you stronger. I mean, being convicted, I mean, being indicted, that's making them stronger, raising 10 million dollars, using an ugly mugshot to raise money. This is a movement. And anyone who thinks that you can apply the old political rules to try to defeat this candidate based on he's scary, he's ugly, whatever you might want to call him. This is a movement. And we have to respect the fact that it's a move.

Rich Barris, your reaction? Well, all movements are reactionary, Donna. And I got to tell you, you know, he is a total partisan. But years ago I did meet her and she was super nice to me.

I got to be honest. But she is a partisan. I was obviously willing to give debate questions from the network she works at to her candidate. Let's not forget that. That was a gross violation of trust and yeah, of ethics, yes.

But she sees it. And I again, I have to say, maybe, you know, there's a lot of this going around now, Charlie, you know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And the things that we're hearing from people that are, you know, leading to these polls being this tight is definitely different. It's not a normal election. And I will say this, there was a lot of social desirability bias in 16 and in 20, especially with the polls, I thought 20 was worse. We have to at least entertain the idea or the possibility that watching people get put in jail for supporting Donald Trump is going to result in a social bias in the poll. So when I'm telling you he's up, you know, forty five, forty two, maybe three points, you know, with Cornel West in the ballot, it's at least likely that some of those people who are choosing someone else or undecided are full of crap and they're going to vote for Donald Trump. But they're just afraid to talk to the pollster. And I know it's there because we're getting refusals. And those people are outwardly telling us, I'm not participating in this poll. I'm not telling you who my you know, this is this is not the time to be telling people about your political beliefs. They're there, you know, so that they clammed up.

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Play cut 18. I would give him every courtesy that I could. I would not certainly not handcuff him.

David's right. I think he would love that picture. I would make very sure that that booking photo is not released.

He would turn it into T-shirts and turn himself into Che Guevara there as an iconic image. I would just make sure that this goes down smoothly and that he is he is not made a spectacle of in on Tuesday, because that will all play and that would all play into his public relations strategy there. Rich Barris, have we seen any evidence mugshot helps Trump, hurts Trump polling? What is the data show outside of vibes or gut feelings? Yeah, outside of it, we did a national poll post mugshot. We did a Florida poll post mugshot. And the poll we did in Florida the month before was he was up by about 20 points and it was a little over 50 to 30 and change for DeSantis. He's crushing DeSantis in Florida now post mugshot, crushing it. So he's ahead, Charlie, almost at 60 and DeSantis fell to 20 percent in his own state. So it's definitely a rally and cry.

And then nationally, we had Trump at 56 with Vivek and DeSantis roughly tied, one with 11, one with 12. So he's just not they're not it's it's really I know it's hard for them to grasp, but you could always tell when David Axelrod is being serious and when he's being a partisan. And that was a stone cold, serious David right there. Like, listen, don't do this, because David knows something that apparently a lot of anti Trump partisans on the left and right don't know or don't want to admit, which is that, you know, political martyrs, Charlie Che Guevara, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, they do win elections. I mean, there's one right now in Mexico, right to the south of us, who, by the way, himself is calling this a political persecution. Well, look at it.

Just look at Lula in Brazil. He was in prison. Right.

I mean, this is not anything new. I mean, the idea that you go not always. But if if there's any flex in the I mean, if like if he was indicted for murder or something that's separate. But if there's any flex in the joints of like gray area, history shows us that you can flip an indictment to a positive. It invigorates your base, you and sympathy through independence. The opposition looks desperate.

Rich Barris. Yeah. And I'm from New York and New Jersey. And I've actually seen this before local politicians. It's just that you have to make sure the media doesn't peg you the way the media tried to peg Trump. We're like an indictment is actually guilt. It's not an argument from a prosecutor. And it had to look above board and, you know, it's murder or something. We're not talking about these charges. Everything that he's been charged with looks like political in nature and it's not really stone cold.

They're all novel legal theories. And that just smells like B.S. to people, Charlie. And I'll say one more thing. People who think that this is not going to make him more relatable with nonwhites don't know nonwhites like the real nonwhite population in this country. We interviewed somebody the other day and I mean, basically, Charlie, I just never would believe I would hear a young African-American man talk like a bill talk about a billionaire white guy like this.

But he's basically like now Trump knows how we feel. He's you know, he's he's got the best chance to take it to the man. He's got the best chance to take it to the system. And I can't stand the system. So the biggest F.U.

I could give him is vote for Donald Trump. This is real. And people want to deny it.

Knock yourself out. They denied when I said he was going to win 12 percent of the black vote in 2020 ballpark. He did. They denied when I said he was going to surge in Miami-Dade. He did.

I'm telling you, it's real. And these these folks don't see it like that. And this is something the Democratic Party just can't have happen.

They can't have that happen. And so usually in political campaigns, when you're doing OK or well, you're worried about a basement or what scandal. The guy's facing six hundred years in federal prison.

It's really he's kind of like this is what's scary for the Democrats. It's kind of like they've saturated the population with, you know, he really can't go much lower. And his low is actually doing very well again to come down to seven counties. Maricopa, Pinal, Pima, Gwinnett, Fulton, Cobb, Dane, Kenosha, Madison.

Get that tattooed on your arm. It comes down to those seven or eight counties. Rich Barris, great job. Check out People's Pundits Daily. He does a great job. And thanks so much. All the best, Charlie. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us your thoughts is always freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com.

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