The Anti-Conservative Defamation League with Will Scharf

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But that's changed. The ADL is nothing more than a weapon of the Marxist left run by a man by the name of Jonathan Greenblatt. Now if you go to their website, ADL.org, it's hard to find anything you disagree with. They say, unless you go further, they say we fight anti-Semitism. In fact, their byline is fighting hate for good.

ADL.org run by this guy, Jonathan Greenblatt. Now this goes to a theme though, is that there's a supply and demand issue with hatred and racism in America. The same goes for the civil rights machinery or Leviathan that was built in the 1960s and early 1970s.

We start to see that you build these massive institutions all around trying to fight racism and fight injustice and fight anti-Semitism and eventually you realize the country that you're waging this war in is actually a rather decent country. So you have to come up with hatred where it doesn't exist. So ADL.org, their entire mission statement to their donors and to their employees and to their members is that there's more hate than ever before and give us more money so we can fight hate for good. And they call themselves the anti-defamation league. Now ironically, they actually do more defaming than almost anybody else. They smear, for example, libs of TikTok.

They slander decent people. They have a whole page on Turning Point USA actually. ADL.org. They run advertisements against Turning Point USA trying to say that we are, you know, not alt-right, but we play footsie with the alt-right and that we are akin to radical right-wing forces. We have a whole page right here on ADL.org.

Key points goes through all the different activities. Charlie Kirk promotes Christian nationalism and activism. TPUSA and right-wing extremists. TPUSA and racist bigots.

Goes on and on and on. So this is a multiple page thing at ADL.org. And they pick their targets and they smear you relentlessly.

Now it really hasn't bothered me or bothered us at Turning Point. Yes, they run SEO ads trying to misrepresent us. But they do this, and this is the important thing, is they believe they are untouchable. They believe that you cannot criticize the ADL or the anti-defamation league. You're not allowed to push back on them.

You're not allowed to say, hey, what you're doing is wrong. Now understand this is their business model. The business model of the anti-defamation league, the ADL, is they will go after voices, companies, and they will try to destroy them if they do not suppress speech that they don't like. So this all bubbled up when the head of ADL, Jonathan Greenblatt, met with the head of X, or it will always be Twitter to me, Linda Yaccarino. And when that meeting happened, all of a sudden this erupted on social media saying, hold on a second, we know what the ADL is trying to do here. The ADL is going to try to pressure Twitter to shut up Shadowban and blacklist dissident voices that they don't like. Now the ADL does this all under the guise of fighting anti-Semitism. They basically say that you are not allowed to criticize the ADL or any of their activities, and if you do, then you must hate Jews.

Now let me just say this. This is one of my most frustrating developments in the modern narrative war. How you're somehow not allowed to criticize an organization or a person because all of a sudden they'll say, well, I'm Jewish, you're not allowed to say anything. This goes with George Soros, for example. Any time that you criticize George Soros, they say, oh, you're an anti-Semite.

No, actually George Soros is first of all not serious about his Judaism, he's an atheist, second of all, we're not criticizing him because he's Jewish, we're criticizing him because he's evil. Now the ADL has, in the last couple years, taken an even more radical turn. They've become vicious, and quite honestly, they themselves have become a hate group. They wear the costume of, quote, fighting hate for good. ADL fights all forms of anti-Semitism and bias using innovation and partnerships that drive impact.

Now you might say, well, Charlie, how does this impact me? We might have this tape here, we'll find it. Jonathan Greenblatt argues, he brags in his Zoom calls, that they talk to the FBI every single day. The ADL is an adjunct to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, telling them of what extremists to find, what people that you have to try to suppress. You go to the ADL website, for example, they say, hate on display, quote, a hate symbol, it's okay to be white.

If you say that, it's a hate symbol. They argue that child pornography, or pornography for children, is perfectly fine. In fact, it's phenomenal. ADL.org. Children's literature can open doors to exploring important topics and concepts. ADL education has compiled a list of LGBTQ pride-themed books for Pride Month.

The resource also includes discussion guides for educators and families. So there is far radical left on the cultural Marxist spectrum, as you could imagine. Now some people might say, what is the zinger here? Why does this impact me? Because the ADL has been behind almost every major censorship campaign, successful one that we have seen in the last couple of years. And they do this all around the, they wear camouflage, they say, well, we're fighting anti-Semitism. And they all work together, the ACLU, the SPLC, the ADL. You must understand that these 501c3 nonprofits that are funded by major corporations, billionaire donors, donor-advised funds, their full-time job is to try to wage war on the United States Constitution. These are formerly civil rights groups that have become commissars for the Marxist regime. They've become captured. These are groups that used to fight for decency and goodness and free speech.

They don't believe in any of that stuff anymore. No, it's all about waging war on quote-unquote the neo-fascist right. It's a subterranean clandestine effort to undermine our Constitution. These people are venom in our discourse, and a lot of people are afraid to call out the ADL because they don't want to be called an anti-Semite. Of all the accusations that I laugh off the most is when people call me an anti-Semite. It's honestly hilarious, and that's how you guys should handle any of these accusations. Just laugh at it.

When Jonathan Greenblatt or the ADL says, Charlie Kirk is an anti-Semite, it's like, you have no idea what you're talking about. You're a bigot. And by the way, don't spend too much time defending yourself.

It's a waste of time. I know who I am. I know what I believe. I know my respect for the Jewish people, for the Torah, for Israel, my admiration of some of the most amazing Jews in public life, but I'm not going to stop short of criticizing the ADL because you guys are going to say, oh, you're an anti-Semite because you criticize the ADL. They weaponize name calling.

It's the same exact way. The ADL and BLM use the same exact playbook. So now Elon Musk is speaking out against them. This story has been growing and growing and growing over the weekend where we were one of the first Twitter accounts to really put a light and an accelerant on saying that the ADL really needs to be put on defense. In fact, Elon Musk is now saying he's going to sue the Anti-Defamation League for defamation. Just so you understand, this is what the ADL does. They threaten people who don't get in line with their ideology and they try to destroy your life. Finally, there's some fight in the conservative movement.

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ReliefFactor.com. Just listen to Jonathan Greenblatt, the CEO of the Anti-Defamation League. He's a cheerleader for the FBI. He's a cheerleader for the Intel agencies. Start to see how this all comes together. The ADL is a uni-party regime defender. And look at him basically slobber over FBI Director Christopher Wray. Listen carefully.

Play cut 14. It is the FBI that works directly with the ADL every day and we could not do our job, if you will, of fighting anti-Semitism without them doing their job of protecting our community. So Director Wray, we really, really have the deepest appreciation for you and all of your professionals. Thank you for the work that you do. Thank you, Jonathan.

Thank you for what you do. The ADL has become an extension of the administrative state. The ADL is captured by these radical Marxists who are using these institutions under the guise of, well, we just fight hate.

Even they themselves become the nastiest organizations you could imagine. So over the weekend, Elon Musk then amplified call to ban the ADL from X. But how does the Times of Israel, this drives me crazy how they cover this. The JPost.com, TimesOfIsrael.com, this does you guys no good. For those of you that care about the welfare and the well-being of the Jewish people, which I certainly care about, outspokenly, it does you no good to cover stories this way. TimesOfIsrael, Elon Musk amplifies call by anti-Semites to ban the ADL from X.

Well, that's quite a headline. Call by anti-Semites? Are you trying to call me an anti-Semite? Of course they are. Because they don't actually want to get down to the details that the ADL is a smear organization. They are a hate organization.

So what do they do? They say, well, Elon Musk is amplifying a call by anti-Semites. Could you imagine if they used that way of writing headlines? Here would be a great headline. House of Representatives passes bill supported by anti-Semites.

Oh, well, that sounds pretty bad. Well, Elon Omar voted for it. She hates Jews. So could you imagine if they used that sort of headline writing for anything else? No, but they use that intentionally because they think the ADL is untouchable because they get to play the anti-Semite card. Oh, you're an anti-Semite. If you dare question us, screw you. Elon Musk is engaging with white nationalists and anti-Semites who ban the anti-defamation league from Twitter on the influential social media platform he now calls X.

This is TimesOfIsrael.com. This is such sloppy journalism. This doesn't do anybody any good. This creates resentment is what it does.

They say this onslaught comes following our participation in the 60th anniversary of the March on Washington. Yeah, why is it that we hate the ADL so much? They say, well, it's because we're Jews. No, it's not. It's because you're scum rats who want to censor and shut us up.

Play cut 15. The ADL, our Center for Technology and Society, works actively with all the kind of companies in Silicon Valley, from Apple to Zoom, if you will, from Amazon to Microsoft to Meta and indeed to Twitter. We've dealt with them for years, helping them tackle the challenges of hate speech on their service. We point things out.

We share information. But what we've said again and again and again, and we need these companies to engage constructively, smartly, use their innovation to tackle hate speech. I see that chart you put up that contradicts what we're seeing at ADL. We've seen anti-Semitic speech stay up there longer than ever before. Just so everybody understands, there's entire armies of religious Jews that loathe the ADL. The more devout of a Jew that you are, the more loathsome the ADL has become.

I've received text messages from rabbis, from Orthodox Jews all across the planet this weekend thanking me for what we've done against the ADL. And some people are afraid. Some people, the conservative movement, they're like, oh, I don't know if I want to touch the ADL.

Why the fear? This is an important lesson, everybody, because they don't want to be called a name. They do not want to be called a name. And of all the bad names you could be called in American society, racist is bad. But honestly, being called an anti-Semite is even worse than being called a racist in certain circles, and people do not want to touch it. I know that's a lie. And any time in your life you know something is a lie, do not be deterred by the names they could call you. So we leaned in. Because the ADL doesn't represent Jewish values, they represent secular left-wing values under the camouflage of Judaism.

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Will, thank you for joining. The topic we want to talk about today, though, is the Anti-Defamation League, ADL. And what they've been doing the last couple of years is reprehensible.

They are the linchpin of the censorship industrial complex in more ways than one. Now, Will, you're Jewish and, you know, they say that you're not allowed to attack the ADL. If you do, you're an anti-Semite. How should we think about the ADL?

The floor is yours, Will Scharf. Yeah, look, you know, the ADL is an organization that was founded to fight anti-Semitism. But now it operates mostly as an organization that just seeks to advance leftism. You never hear them say a word about the BDS movement on campuses, which has threatened and imperiled Jewish students on college campuses all across America. But every time there's a leftist cause, they jump to the forefront and attach their name to it. I think this has become particularly true since 2015 when a guy named Jonathan Greenblatt, who used to be a special assistant to Barack Obama, took over the group.

But the ADL is a sad shell of what it once was. It should be condemned by all for what they're doing, whether it's on censorship or just generally promoting leftism. And I think Elon Musk is exactly right that it's time for a reckoning. So kind of just talk about they're incredibly aggressive and they say that their mission statement is to fight anti-Semitism. And I actually I mean, I am all on board for fighting anti-Semitism legitimately.

I actually think they do a disservice in that fight. And I'll give you an example. They have here on their website that numbers one through 11, 109, 110, 12, 13, 13, 52, 13, 90, 14, 14, 23, 21, 2, literally it's like 50 numbers are hate symbols. I mean, Will, at some point they are they're getting to a place where there's a supply and demand problem here. While you ignore the legitimate Jew hatred of Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib in the Democrat Party, they're trying to tell us that basically half the numbers one to 100 are hate symbols.

Yeah. Look, it's an organization that's just tragically lost its way. It was founded, obviously, in the early nineteen hundreds when there was certainly a lot more anti-Semitism in America than there is today. I think organizations like that can serve a valuable purpose, calling out legitimate anti-Semitism like we've seen from Ilhan Omar, as you said. But what that organization exists to do right now is just advance leftist dogma and shut down any speech on the right under the guise of combating anti-Semitism. You know, you may know a couple of months ago, my friend Josh Hammer and I founded a group called Jews Against Soros.

Yeah, it was great. Because every time someone on the right, every time a conservative criticizes George Soros, they get attacked and condemned as anti-Semite. We don't oppose George Soros because he's Jewish. We oppose him because he's an evil man who's done terrible things to the world. But that's the sort of campaign that the ADL has been involved in is that, you know, tarring and feathering conservatives for speaking out against Soros. And it's just it's wrong.

Yeah. And so can you also just explain to our audience, you know, in serious religious Jewish circles, the ADL is not very well respected. The ADL is pushing forward very radical ideas on gender and sexuality and politics. Is it fair to say that the ADL operates a lot more as a political activist group for kind of almost quasi-cultural Marxist ideas than anything to actually fight Jew hatred? Yeah, there's there's nothing almost nothing uniquely Jewish about the organization anymore. It's just another leftist auxiliary in the political wars that we're fighting on any number of front. Now, this is an organization that, as I said, was founded with great motives. But, you know, this as well as anybody, all organizations, all institutions that are not explicitly conservative, become leftist over time at those Sullivan's first law. That's what we've seen with the ADL.

It's a particularly stark example of it. I want to play a piece of tape here. This is cut 14 ADL saying they work at the FBI every single day.

Play cut 14. It is the FBI that works directly with the ADL every day. And we could not do our job, if you will, of fighting anti-Semitism without them doing their job of protecting our community. So Director Wray, we are we are in your we we really, really have the deepest appreciation for you and all of your professionals. Thank you for the work that you do. Thank you, Jonathan. Thank you for what you do.

So I want to broaden this for a second, Will, that I think is interesting. You have the SPLC, you have the ADL, you have the ACLU. Talk for a second how there is this infrastructure of 501c3 nonprofits that almost do or they've become the research arm for the police state and the administrative state.

Will Scharf. Yes. So as we've taken back the courts under President Trump, as the conservative legal movement has made it progressively tougher for government actors to engage in political censorship, to engage in political discrimination. The left has been remarkably effective at using nonprofits, primarily 501c3s, as you said, to do the job that they could use government sensors for a generation or two ago. So whether it's the ADL, whether it's the ACLU, they all believe themselves to be a part of this bigger network. And they view their goal as ensuring leftist hegemony all across America and every facet of our lives. The guy on that clip that you just showed, that's Jonathan Greenblatt, the head of the ADL. He was a special assistant to Barack Obama.

He's never worked with Jewish organizations before becoming the head of the ADL. He was put in there to take that organization in a leftist direction, and that's exactly what he's done. That's what's so scary about the way the modern left is organized and what we ultimately all need to be willing to fight again. So I want you to elaborate on that. That's a really smart point, Will, that I haven't heard anybody make, is that because of work that you did and Leonard Leo and Federalist Society really taking the court seriously the last 20 or 30 years, all of a sudden being able to outwardly use the blunt force instrument of government has become harder, thankfully, right?

Not impossible, but harder. We still have the stuff with Trump, which is ridiculous. But what you're saying, though, is that in the last couple of years, the nonprofits pivoted and changed their strategy. For example, the SPLC, they go after credit card processors. They went all in on that, right, so that you're not allowed to use Visa if you're on our hate list.

Like, that's a really weird but creative and darn effective way of doing this. So talk for a second, Will, that the modern left, they use lists, they use rankings as then this fake standard to be able to then prohibit very basic activities and freedoms. Banking, access to social media, credit card processing, Will Scharf. And they also buy brands, Charlie. I mean, that's what we've seen with SPLC, with ADL. What they do is they take the NAACP, frankly. They take established brands with a history and civil rights fight. There are other causes that at one time were noble causes.

And they leverage those brands to wage political warfare in highly leveraged, highly effective, oftentimes, ways against us. The SPLC hate list started out as calling out neo-Nazis and folks like that. They took it in a direction where the Alliance Defending Freedom, major pro-religious liberty nonprofit, were suddenly deemed hate group. It's the same with what we've seen with the ADL, where anyone they don't like, they just are as an anti-Semite now, like Elon Musk. But this is all part of a much bigger network of organizations and a much bigger plan on the part of the left. And that's where you get into the Soros network, the Arabella advisors network. They have effectively insulated themselves from a lot of the victories we've been able to achieve politically and with the courts in the last two decades, because their key actors are no longer governmental actors.

They're private actors working in this highly effective network way to shut down conservative speech and to imperil conservative organizations doing really good, important work. And it's too bad because it cheapens, it waters down the necessary, but should be rarely used, but pointed label of an anti-Semite. There are Jew haters out there, there are. But if everyone becomes an anti-Semite, then the word means nothing.

And that's too bad because then there's no differential, there's no distinction. When they call me an anti-Semite, first of all, it's not true and I just laugh it off, but then it's also really sad. It's like then someone who actually does hate Jews, they'll be able to say, oh, well, everyone is that, then no one is. Time to take a stand for life, everybody. We can say we're pro-life, but what does that actually mean? In a pro-Row versus Wade world, there are states that are more radically pro-death than ever before, aborting babies up until the moment they draw their first breath.

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Your thoughts? Yeah, look, you know, calling someone a racist who's actually racist should have power and should have meaning. But when folks on the left just call every conservative, every Republican a racist, when they call Mitt Romney, the most milquetoast guy on the planet, a racist, it destroys the power of the word and it takes any meaning, any comprehensibility out of it. I mean, to me, that's doing far more damage to the real fight against racism or antisemitism in our world than just about anything else.

That, as you said before, if everybody's a racist, nobody is and that's a tragedy. So we have some exclusive footage here of Jonathan Greenblatt at a diner in New York City, Playcut 23. Well, look at this. I told them medium rare.

It's medium. It happens. I bet that cook is an antisemite. He didn't see you.

He has no idea who you are. They don't just overcook a hamburger, Jared. Fine. Anyway, the point I was making before Goebbels made your hamburger here is this. A man like you could be dating women 20 years younger. Believe me, I thought about it, but she is so perfect in every way. I can't see a flaw.

Well, keep looking. That was never before seen footage, Will, of Jonathan Greenblatt having a burger. Your thoughts? Yeah, so the only difference between that and the ADL is the ADL wouldn't have called the cook an antisemite unless they knew he was a Republican. No, that's exactly right.

They would have asked for his voter registration and they would have shut down the restaurant is what they would have done. I mean, that's the crazy thing that literally every group they call out, every person they call out is somebody on the right. You and I know that there are plenty of antisemites on the left. Some of the most vicious antisemitism, some of the most damaging antisemitism in America today comes from the left and the ADL is silent on it. And to me, that's just the damning indictment of where the organization is at. And it's a terrible statement on where they were at the point they've arrived at after being started with, I think, once noble intentions. One of the reasons why Seinfeld is one of the most effective shows ever is it was self-deprecating about kind of single Jewish culture in New York in the 1990s. And in some ways, Seinfeld would warn about something that would be happening in certain. And he's basically the subtext that is like, hey, guys, you can't call everything antisemite, the Semitic, right? That's the subtext of that 30 second clip there, because it's obviously outrageous, right?

You don't just overcook a burger. It's like, hold on, there's other things at play here. And, you know, Seinfeld does it in such a lighthearted, hilarious way where he just interjects there. And what's important, though, is, and you make the most critical point, is that they'll ignore the blatant Jew hatred if the card says Democrat. If they use, the card says Democrat, they're like, oh, well, maybe we can work with you. I went to the ADL website in the break. There is not a whisper about the Muslim Jew hatred, about Ilhan Omar, about BDS, nothing at all.

Nothing. But there is just, if you just look at the ADL website, you would think that, like, one of the major American political parties is neo-Nazis. Final thoughts, Will Scharf. Yeah, the ADL condemned me and Josh Hammer for founding Jews Against Soros. I mean, we're both practicing Jews. For us to call out Soros's politics was, to them, akin to anti-Semitism. It's just, it's patently absurd. It has to stop. And as conservatives, we need to band together against exactly this sort of left-wing activism, masked however they decide to mask it.

Will Scharf, running for Attorney General for Missouri. Great work. Thanks so much. Thanks for having me on, Charlie.

Good to see you. You know, I'm a big fan of Seinfeld, Frasier, and The Office. The Office got worse after a couple seasons, let me be very clear. The first couple seasons of The Office are exceptional. I can pinpoint, just on the top of my head, ten or twelve episodes of Frasier, Seinfeld, or The Office that would not be allowed on television today, would not be allowed. One, for example, if you want to see how America has become a less fun country, a less free country, I encourage you to watch a single episode called Diversity Day. Do you know what I'm talking about, guys? It is one of the most irreverent, hilarious, politically incorrect, you cannot believe that it was allowed on television.

On NBC, just ten or twelve or thirteen or fourteen years ago. It is, laugh out loud, hilarious. But why is it that America has become less fun? Well, it's because as a country becomes more totalitarian, humor is a threat to tyranny, because humor is the truth. That's why people laugh when things are true. We've stopped laughing as a country. We're very serious all the time.

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