Trump's Fulton County Boomerang with Benny Johnson

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Will it backfire? Have they underestimated the phenomena that is Donald Trump and the blowback of their political persecution? We break it all down for you. And we also welcome Benny Johnson, who is also part of Turning Point USA, but he's got the Benny Show. He's got some great, phenomenal commentary and a new video that he just dropped. Man on the street in Nashville asking if the mugshot, if the indictments are having their intended effect or does it make people more likely to vote for Trump? I think you'll find it incredibly intriguing content that we share with you. Buckle up. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

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So thank you so much for that. I want to get into this story here. Are we living through a boomerang? Are we about to live through a boomerang? So I want to game out. It's like whack-a-mole. We talked about this yesterday. It's like whack-a-mole gaming out how the Democrats are going to game out the 2024 election. And this week, I believe it was just yesterday, yes, Trump pleaded not guilty.

He waived his arraignment, pled not guilty in Georgia in the election interference case. Fannie Willis. By the way, we have those kiss my Fannie shirts at charlottekirk.com. Just follow the links to the store and you will be able to get them. We had to restock. They sold out.

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I don't know. But we think of these as walking billboards for the truth, for justice against a weaponized DOJ. So normally it's not something we do, but now we're all in. It's like, hey, listen, if you're going to perp walk Trump, if you're going to make him get a mugshot, then guess what? We're going to create billboards and you're going to have to face those billboards on the streets of real America with real supporters that defend this former president and potential future president.

But I want to talk about this live stream. Is this the big boomerang that they miscalculate because in their earnest to get Trump in their earnest to disqualify him, dishonor him, humiliate him. Was the mugshot just part one of the boomerang? We saw that mugshot go everywhere.

It is now the one of the most iconic images and will become one of the most iconic images in American history. And we saw the McLaughlin poll yesterday was the only poll that we've seen that's been taken post indictment, post mugshot. We saw that his numbers look strong. And even my contrarian producer Blake on this show, he said to me, he said, you know, honestly, his polling numbers look pretty good.

Lately, they've been trending in the right direction. And very importantly, that same poll had Trump up 49 41 in the key battleground states. So let's go ahead and play this clip 181. This is talking about how Fulton County is going to be televised. If you think the mugshot was one thing, which it was, wait until the American public is subjected to a trial with a pool feed, which means all the networks will take it. Watching the political persecution of a former United States president in real time.

Wait till you see that play cut 181. Former President Trump officially has pled not guilty in the Fulton County election interference case. Trump's team entered his plea yesterday for the 13 felony charges he faces, including racketeering and conspiracy. The plea was entered in writing as they filed a waiver to tell the court he would not appear for next week's scheduled arraignment. Former president's legal team also pushing to separate his case from the other co-defendants.

The filing argues October 23rd is not enough time to prepare a defense. That date was set for the speedy trial of co-defendant Kenneth Cheesbrough. DA Fannie Willis asked a judge last week to set that date for the remainder of the co-defendants as well. When the trial date officially is set, there will be cameras in the courtroom. That decision confirmed by the judge yesterday. Hearings and proceedings related to the case will be televised and live streamed on the court's YouTube channel. It's the first of its kind in the history of our country that a former president will be subjected to a court trial, live stream, pool camera, YouTube feed, the whole shebang.

So let me take you down a little bit of memory row. After Trump shocked the world in 2016, the legacy news media went on an apology tour saying sorry, sorry, sorry for covering him. We know we contributed to helping get elected, but it was inadvertent. We didn't mean to. We thought it was a clown show. We just thought it was good for ratings and boy was it good for ratings. If you remember in 2016, the likes of CNN would cover these rallies ad nauseam.

It was the talk of the country wall to wall and then Trump won and it changed everything. And then Jeff Zucker from CNN started going on broadcasting, you know what, we made a mistake. It was really, we were complicit in Hitler becoming president because we covered it because it was a good story. We didn't think he had a shot, a snowball's chance in hell to win, but he did. And our bad, we're going to stop covering him. And from that day, they never covered a rally.

They never gave him any fair coverage. In fact, it was pushed to the brink of lunacy, probably well over it. They colluded with deep state actors, the administrative state and Democrats to lie, slander, abuse him and ultimately impeach him and attempt to remove him from office. But with each step, you could feel that they were nevertheless obsessed with Trump.

Trump, everything. He was their obsession, like a scorned lover, stalking him on Facebook. They couldn't get enough, but yet they had their own rules and principles self-imposed where they were not allowed to cover him. But guess what?

Now Fannie Willis has changed the game. Now they are obligated, journalistically, we use that in air quotes, to cover the first of its kind Trump trial of a former president on live TV being victimized, martyred before a weaponized judicial system, before millions and millions and millions of eyeballs through legacy media, through their pipes, their infrastructure. They'll be forced to see it in real time, what our nation has become, what they have subjected a former president to. So yes, it's an injustice that he's even being tried.

Yes, it's wrong. And yes, we don't exactly know how the voters are going to react. But there is very good evidence that the voters in the middle, the independents, the squishy Republicans that thought they hated Trump and could never pull the lever for him again. Remember, he got 94% of Republicans. Now you got Karl Rove, the Wall Street Journal op-ed saying, listen, these trials are going to drag out and it's going to drag down his favorables and Republicans are going to bleed off, independents are going to bleed off. He won about 48% of independents in 2020, according to the exit polls. They think that number is going to go down. They're calculating that a trial will not benefit Trump. But the mugshot proves differently.

The man on the street videos that we're seeing prove differently. Some of these polls, like McLaughlin, say that momentum in the trend is in fact our friend. And even Trump is catching wind of this. He said, be careful what you wish for, Democrats. Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it.

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I just want to keep building at this point. I want to play playback. We're struggling to find the tape, by the way. I actually wonder if it's been memory hold in some way.

But I remember it very, very well. Article here from Politico, if you throw that graphic up, campaign operatives blast Jeff Zucker over CNN coverage at Harvard event. It's a Politico article from December 2016, so just after Trump gets elected, says all the Republican candidates were invited to come on, Zucker said. Cable news in general, CNN in particular, should not be held responsible for the fact that Donald Trump said yes to those interviews.

My point is this. If you look at what they're actually saying in this article, he said, we recognize there was a little bit of phenomenon to Donald Trump, Zucker said, acknowledging that we did give him quite a bit of coverage. If there was one thing he would change about their early coverage, Zucker repeated a sentiment he's made before, less unfiltered nonstop streaming of Trump's early rallies. We probably did put on too many of the campaign rallies in the early months unedited, Zucker said.

In hindsight, we probably shouldn't have done that as much. That's him speaking at Harvard, where he was getting jeered at this event. And other candidates were saying, you were showing empty podiums of Trump events. This is the Trump phenomenon. This is the Trump phenomenon.

They can't help it. Oh, here we go. We got it.

One eighty nine. Play it. I'd say that if we made a mistake last year, it's that we probably did put on too many of his campaign rallies in the in those early months. You know, unedited and just let them run. You know, listen, because you never knew what he was going to say. You never knew what was going to happen. So there was there was an attraction to put those on the air. And I think in hindsight, we probably shouldn't have done that as much. Oh, you see, this is what I'm talking about. When you put Trump in a position where anything could happen, anything could be said, does he take the stand?

Millions of Americans. And by the way, here's Trump's crazy logic here. He might take the stand knowing he's going to be convicted in a totally biased, very blue Fulton County and believing that the merits of the case defend him, which they do. Again, he was contesting an election that he felt was dishonest, that millions of Americans feel are dishonest. And he was using a precedent set in Tilden v. Hayes in the eight 1876 and then again in 1916 Hawaii and then again in 2000 Al Gore v. Bush. He might just go up there and say, to hell with it. I'm going to take the stand.

I'm going to say whatever the heck I want. Those moments of unvarnished, candid Trump, even Jeff Zucker couldn't pass it up. Even CNN couldn't pass it up. They knew that it was a phenomenon. Trump is a phenomenon.

Will this be the boomerang? Have they miscalculated? Have all of their whack-a-mole schemes, the 14th amendment, the multiple indictments, the effort to prop up other Republican candidates? The list literally goes on.

We made an entire list here. Special Counsel David Weiss appointed to slow-walk the Hunter Biden investigation. COVID-19, climate crisis, what are they going to throw at it? The government being mobilized to get out the vote arm of the Democrat Party. All of these different things are being thrown at Trump, and here's their strategy. They're like a hedge fund or a venture capitalist. They don't necessarily know which investments are going to have a return, but they look at it and they say, listen, if I can get one or two to pop off big and the other ten are dogs, then we still are going to win this thing. However, if you lose the house on one, it could wipe out all your gains elsewhere, and that's what they might be doing. They might be overplaying. I think it's a very, very real possibility because Trump is a phenomenon.

He's unlike anything we've ever seen. Do you get the feeling that something bad is going to happen soon? Well, I do.

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Do they make you more likely to vote Trump or less likely to vote Trump? Very fascinating stuff ties into exactly what we're talking about here in hour one. While we wait for Benny, I want to play this clip. This clip is involving John Thomas. He is the founder and president of Thomas Partner Strategy, a full service Republican media strategy crisis comms firm. So he's he was the guy who founded the DeSantis Super PAC.

Okay, now let's go ahead and play cut 190 and get his unvarnished opinion on NewsNation. Oftentimes the main skills you need are ability to raise money and roll television ads when you run for president. Yes, of course, that's important. But retail politicking, charisma, charm, discipline, be able to conduct yourself in a likable manner on television interviews.

Those are all equal, if not more important than your ability to roll a TV ads. And DeSantis just hasn't had it. And DeSantis has not had it.

He hasn't had it. Now listen, I like DeSantis. Again, I think he's America's greatest governor. I will repeat the same thing that Charlie says I think he's fantastic.

He's been amazing in Florida. All this hurricane stuff. He's saying if you loot, we shoot.

I love that stuff. Absolutely. Back to basics. But running for the presidency is something completely different. National retail politics politics has not been his forte.

And that's the problem. But Trump has it. Trump has the x factor. And what the Democrats are inadvertently doing perhaps is putting him on the biggest stage imaginable. And the cameras they turned off after 2016, they're about to turn him back on. So we're working to get Benny right back up. He should be coming in just a second. But let me let me preview some of Benny's man on the street.

Let's play cut 185. Who are you going for in 2024 election? Even though I have a Bud Light Trump. We need to we need to be talking about Jell-O and senior citizen homes for his. You know, I think it really is promoting his brand, you know, because they you know, if you really want something to go away, you would just ignore it. So they're coming at him so hard. Do not come. I'm going to come.

That is a for those for the unaffiliated. That is that is Benny Johnson's signature style in a nutshell. And by the way, that was the juxtaposition of those two clips is fantastic.

One of them was actually at a turning point USA event where Trump says I'm going to come he's he's he's just Trump being Trump. Perfect clip that make us laugh all the time. All right, we've got Benny Johnson, Benny Johnson. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Of course, Andrew Colvet guest hosting.

How you doing, my friend? Oh, man, you guys got to use StreamYard stop with his mic these Microsoft products. Bill Gates hates us. Well, there we go.

Doesn't want to be able to broadcast. This is Bill Gates. I'm telling you is Bill Gates conspiracy being Microsoft. Benny, tell me about this man on the street video. What inspired it? What did you find out? I want I want everything.

We've got a bunch of clips from it that I want to get to as well. We went to Nashville, and we asked people, Trump mugshot make you want to vote for Trump more or less. And I could not find a single person. I mean, I'm telling you, I couldn't find a single individual.

And we talked to dozens of people who said, no, no, I don't. He turned him into Tupac, makes me not want to vote for him. Now that he's a gangster, now that he's an icon. And you can see, of course, Donald Trump up in the studio here, we have the mugshot printed off in a giant poster size wall mounting with a parental advisory sticker on it.

He turned a man into an icon. It's the most viewed image in world history. Elon Musk said on X that it's been viewed 10 million times per hour.

10 million views per hour. Huh? Like, dude, bro. So what you've done is, again, you've turned him into a legend. Chris Rock predicted this. You turn him, you're going to turn him into Tupac, and he's going to sell more records.

And he did. And so we went to the streets and we said, does this make you want to vote for Trump or not want to vote for Trump? And even Democrats, there's this homie from Rhode Island, even Democrats were like, I'll vote for Trump because of the mugshot. You've seen a lot of that. Like this guy is like, I don't want to vote for Trump, but I'm gonna vote for Trump because his mugshot is based. All right, let's play 186.

These are some of the candid responses that you got on the street in Nashville. 186. Who are you going for in 2024? Trump, baby. 24. Oh, Trump.

Yeah, absolutely. Oh, Trump all the way. Well, I'm gonna have to say Trump.

I would choose Trump, then I would choose the Santas. Make America great again. Trump in 2024!

Woo hoo! Trump. Trump. I mean, do you think it's going to be Trump and Biden again? If those are the candidates, I don't know.

I would have to go with Trump. What a stupid son of a b****. That was the Democrat. The guy with the ginger beard. Was it? That was the guy? That was not Oliver Anthony. That was not Oliver Anthony. I've got another clip of that guy, actually.

I'll get to. Okay, I gotta ask, but did you rig this video? Did you rig it? No.

What were the proportions? Dude, okay, so I have a witness. I literally have a witness. I'm gonna pull him in. Rolls Royce, my director of photography, is right here, sitting next to me. Royce, come here.

Rolls Royce was sitting next to me. He's a good, honest, young Christian man. He would never lie.

He's never lied before. Royce, did we rig those responses? No, not at all. Did we rig them? No, not at all.

Super authentic. They were just out there, walking around, drinking beers. They just wanted to talk. And did we find a single person that's like, yeah, Biden? Not at all.

None. And we were out there for like three hours, Andrew. Alright, so Betty.

One final thing. Nashville, while it is in a red state, it is a melting pot for everyone. You've been to Nashville.

There are plenty of people. Everyone travels to Nashville, right? So, while Tennessee is a red state, this is not like going out in the middle of Midland, Texas. Especially Broadway is a place for many people to come, all the country fans and everything. It's not necessarily a super dark red area.

In fact, Nashville itself is a very blue city and a Democrat city. So, pretty wild. You're 100% right. When we were getting you loaded, I made the same point. I was just curious, because this video is confirming a lot of things we're seeing kind of at the macro level, right? And we started the show talking about the Trump boomerang, right? So, Fannie Willis is about to put Trump in front of tens, maybe hundreds of millions of eyeballs, watching him get politically persecuted, live streamed, the first ever of its kind trial involving a former president. He's going to be martyred and become the victim. And now, I love Trump, but Trump's not easily, it's not a natural connection to think, oh, you're the victim, Trump, I feel bad for you. They have just turned one of the most alpha males on planet Earth into a victim, and now they're going to live stream it to the world. And we're seeing McLaughlin, the poll says in battleground states, Trump is up 49-41 potentially. Now, I'm not going to hang my hat on one poll, but it's the first that we've seen post mugshot.

Benny, is this what you're seeing in the macro? Or are there cracks in the foundation that we need to be watching out for? So, less than a victim, because nobody really, I mean, yes, you're certainly a victim, but like, I would say less than a victim, because you don't think of like Donald Trump, a billionaire as necessarily a victim person, he has all these buildings with his names on.

I would say more like Nostradamus, like more like somebody who predicted the future and told you that a system was rigged and that it was rigged against you, and that feeling you have in the back of your gut that you just can't get ahead, because there is a system that is rigged against you. For Americans of all stripes, whether you're from the rest belt or whether you're from the urban inner city, that's going to suddenly ring true when they realize that Donald Trump's billions and his political connections won't protect him from that exact same system. So, I would say that it's more of Donald Trump being proven correct in his political rhetoric over the last decades, and now finally people are starting to crack. We went thermonuclear viral out of a clip that was posted from some homie who's just like walked onto the street in his neighborhood, in what looks like a quite poor neighborhood of Atlanta, and there are plenty who are desperate for law and order, who are desperate for some hope and something in the future. People just pouring onto the streets, cheering for Trump as he goes by, saying, free Trump, saying Fanny Dunn effed up. How are you going to combat that?

How are you going to fix that messaging? You're not. Johnny Cash has a mugshot. Prince has a mugshot. The biggest punk rockers in the world have mugshots. The biggest outlaws have mugshots, and now people want an outlaw president, and it's going to resonate. I totally agree.

I'm not sure if this is the clip you're talking about, but go ahead and play 41. You want to know why I'm here to support President Trump? Because they done did black men like this for decades, make up charges and pull up, so I know Trump is innocent. I support Trump against this corrupt two-tiered justice system. What do you think about the indictments? Oh, it's a bunch of bullshit.

It's going around the country. Fanny Willis, she went to school with my sister. She was full of shit. So she's a puppet for the white liberal that is controlling everything.

She's in front, but the white liberal back there pulling those strings, telling her what to do. Do you think it's going to help these elections? Of course it is. Of course it's going to help them, Fanny.

We pulled that from your Instagram, I believe. Now, the black vote for Republicans, it's been like this white whale. No pun intended. It has been something that we have long said we're going to get. We're not supposed to be talking about Chris Christie. Is this a pipe dream, or does this literally change the equation?

Of course it changes the equation. Chris Rock stood in front of a very hoity-toity audience at the Kennedy Center months ago and said, you're really going to put him in prison? You're going to turn him into Tupac.

He's going to sell more records. You're going to give the man a mugshot, now it's the most iconic image in America, and possibly world history. There's not a word in the English language, maybe somewhere in German, to actually personify what they've done here. The backlash is going to be immense, and you've turned him into the American gangster. You've turned him into an American outlaw president, and people like an outlaw in this country.

Ironically enough, our top-selling t-shirt with the mugshot is American rebel mugshot in Trump's signature. We can't keep it stocked. Benny, I want to play the good and the bad. I want you to be as brutally honest as you can.

I'm going to throw up 191 right now. This is a Trump truth that he just put up. He said, these indictments and lawsuits are all part of my political opponent's campaign plan. It is an election interference, and they're going to use the DOJ FBI to help them, which is illegal. Crooked Joe pushes this litigation hard to get it done.

He's talking about there's a conspiracy, there's collusion is what he's saying. This is a new low in presidential politics to the Democrats. I say, be careful what you wish for. Okay, Benny, good and bad. Now, this is kind of what we're talking about.

Be careful what you wish for. This might boomerang on you, Democrats. Of all the attack vectors that you can see on the landscape, what do you think poses the biggest threat to Donald Trump? And what do you think will boomerang the most? I think we've talked about it.

Maybe it's this live stream, the mugshot. What do you think poses the biggest threat? Honest. Yeah, so careful what you wish for. You just might get it is something that my grandmother used to always say, and Democrats have learned this, actually. Far, far be it for me to come on this program and paraphrase Mitch McConnell in a complimentary fashion.

But here we go. Back when Mitch McConnell was able to speak, Mitch McConnell would say things like, you're going to regret blowing up the filibuster in the Senate. And he was right. When they blew up the filibuster for judicial nominees, Mitch McConnell predicted that they would get a Republican Supreme Court. And indeed, that is exactly what happened.

The reason why you have the feisty estrogen and cortisol-filled Merrick Garland at the DOJ is because he's not on the Supreme Court. And so they learned the hard way that actually their goblin-like marches towards power do actually have horrible consequences. Andrew, you're a parent.

I'm a parent of young children. You have to have consequences in order to prove a point. And well, they got the Clarence Thomas Supreme Court. So fast forward to today, what I think they're going to learn is that the American people don't like living under communist regimes. They don't like the persecution of their political enemies. They see directly through all of this, and that Donald Trump, again, is starting to lead polls like in a commanding and dominant sense. Now, the biggest problem for Donald Trump is obviously going to be those same people, Mitch McConnell.

So we start with a Mitch McConnell quote, we'll end with a Mitch McConnell quote. Mitch McConnell obviously being operated by a wing of the Republican Party that despise Donald Trump for the same reason Democrats despise Donald Trump. He removes power from them.

He evaporates power from them. All of DC is simply a big club that is united against you, the American people, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican. And there are plenty of Republicans who are part of that club.

Republicans, I hate actually more than Democrats because Democrats will stab me in the face, Republicans will stab me in the back. And these Republicans are trying to stab Donald Trump in the back. You see this in Georgia, obviously, the prosecutor could be removed. Multiple prosecutors have been removed here in the state of Florida because they're Soros funded prosecutors who are defying Florida law.

Brian Kemp could immediately remove and support the removal of Fannie Willis, but he won't do it. And the reason he won't do it is because they view Donald Trump as a threat to their power. And so Republicans are uniting once more, a select wing of Republicans, quote unquote, we call it the Uniparty, we call it the machine, and they are uniting against Donald Trump. And that I believe is probably Donald Trump's greatest weakness is his own party sabotaging him, which is again precisely what they did throughout all of Donald Trump's presidency.

We were just in Yuma, Arizona. Final thing I'll say on this, we were just in Yuma, Arizona, and saw the giant gaps in Donald Trump's wall. The reason why those gaps exist are because of Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan, not because of Democrats. They were cowards and couldn't get the funding for the wall. Meanwhile, they send 200 billion to Ukraine. I think you're right, Benny. I actually think I think what gives credence to the attack vectors of the left is actually that you you see buy in from people on the right.

We always seem to have traitors on the right. You look at this 14th Amendment. I think it was like a basically a trial balloon. They were floating the idea. Could you remove remove Trump from the ballot in Arizona and other states saying, hey, we can't legally do this. New Hampshire has backed off. This audience right here flooded the switchboard on Monday. And all these stories went national.

But what gives them credence, this 14th Amendment, though, by the way, remember, it was two federalist scholars that created the first legal brief, the legal review paper, law review paper that started this whole train. That's losing momentum. But you are so right.

It's the traitors that stab you in the back that will probably pose the most threat to Donald Trump heading into 2024. Benny, we're we're out of time. I don't know how that went so quickly. But but you are doing phenomenal work, my friend. Thank you for the the analysis. Excellent, as always, everybody give Benny Johnson a follow across social media blowing up everywhere. Benny's everywhere right now.

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