A Father's Fight with Harrison Tinsley, Chris Ager, and Tyler Bowyer

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One of the more disturbing trends happening in America is how the courts are either neutral, indifferent, or against reality when it comes to this gender stuff happening in our country. This is a very chilling story. Joining us now is Harrison Tinsley. Harrison, welcome to the program. Thanks for having me, Charlie.

So your story is really striking. You have a three-and-a-half-year-old son. Correct. Born as a biological male. Correct.

Your former partner, ex-girlfriend, wants to raise him as non-binary. Is that correct? To the best of my knowledge, yes. And it has started this massive court battle. Tell us about it.

Well, so it starts a few years back. I met a girl in the Bay Area. We started dating.

We fell in love. We never agreed politically. I always thought, you know, that was something we could get past and just agree to disagree on some things. Unfortunately, the country's become so polarized.

I'm not sure you can do that anymore. But shortly into us dating, she became pregnant. And we were both very happy about that, thankfully. And we basically, she suffered with some mental illness problems, like borderline personality disorder.

It's like, it's pretty serious. And it was just super up and down relationship. And as her pregnancy went on, she was constantly threatening me that I wouldn't see my son if I wasn't exactly who she wanted me to be, particularly politically. And she would bring up things like, oh, what if our kid's transgender? Why aren't you at the Women's March?

Things like that. And it got to a point where she sent me a cease and desist letter. It's about halfway through her pregnancy.

So I respected it. And I didn't find out my son was born. I found out about one week after he was born from social media. And it was two months after that I filed in court, took 13 more.

This is right during COVID. And so I met my son finally when he was 15 months old. Even though I was aware the whole time. And then there was this idea of the gender confusion, right? So tell us about that. So it goes on a little bit, I moved to the Bay Area, I went half custody, then it's right around the time I went half custody.

It's a little bit before he's two years old that she starts, or at least to my knowledge, seeing pictures and stuff, calling him a day, putting dresses on him, makeup on him. There was a time she took him to Disneyland. And my son told me a couple months later, he's like, Dada, when I went to Disneyland, I couldn't go on the rides unless I wore my princess shoes. I didn't want to wear my princess shoes. I wanted to wear boy shoes.

I was super heartbreaking. Just as one example. One example of the things my son tells me. And so that happens. There's a lot of defamation of me on social media, etc. The same time, there's a I get granted a restraining order on a temporary basis that's violated. Bring all of this to trial. Get granted a trial by the court because his mom was also arrested for child endangerment and placed on a 5150 hold while he was in her custody. She ended up getting let off the charges, but she was charged originally. And so I get granted a five day trial, which is a super long time in family court.

Usually you get a lot, you get like 30 minutes. And so we have the trial, I'm super confident about it. There's witnesses 850 pages of evidence on my side, almost nothing on the other side.

And I'm super confident about it. After the trial, about two months later, I get a decision from the court, they decide they're going to keep custody the same. They won't rule on gender. And my son had to continue to see the doctor that the mom preferred. I'm a doctor was open to the trans thing, right? Yeah, the doctor made it on the witness stand that she transitions kids as young as 12 at her clinic and that a place down the street does it to kids as young as six. So do you believe your ex girlfriend mother of your son is encouraging your son to transition or become non binary? It appears that she is definitely pushing that idea on him.

It's not working, though. He knows he's a boy. He always says he's a boy. He wants to be a boy. Loves being a little boy, super masculine, wants to be the Hulk right now.

Big and strong. And if you give him a girly toy or anything, he'll actually yell and scream at you. I'm not a girl. I'm a boy. And how does his mother react all that to the best year? So I don't interact with his mother very much.

Yeah. There was one time she sent me a message on the court app admitting that. So she went from dating me to apparently being lesbian to being non binary herself. I think around the same time she was trying to push it on my son. And she admitted to me on a on a court message app that her and my son got on the physical altercation over him saying not about him saying he's a boy, which I'm sure he says to her because he tells me he does. But he told her that she's a girl. And she was getting mad about that and arguing with him and said that, like, Oh, Sawyer bit me and this is all your fault.

You're a bigot. It was really crazy message. So you're appealing the decision from the court, you wish the court would have had some sort of clarity that your son was actually your son?

Yeah, that I mean, even above that, though, I mean, I was just pushing the safety issue even more to be honest with you with the arrest and everything and her mental health. I thought it was a very positive outlook be just on that alone. So So what what lesson do you think our audience should glean from this as you reflect on this, this very difficult, difficult moment in your life? Well, the number one thing is, is you have to be brave, you have to fight for your kid, no matter what.

And the number two thing would be, it's a good idea to try to share values with someone you, you're gonna be with, essentially. Yeah, yeah, see the world the same way. Yeah. And that dads have rights to not just moms. Do you think the current legal system is pretty, pretty against dad's rights? It's harder for dads to get custody harder for debt. I think it's fair to say it's harder for dads to get custody. For sure. It's it's around like 80% of the time mom gets custody over dad. And you've experienced that, I'm sure obvious, you know, through the difficulty there. So then it's kind of more like your son is resisting these idea pathogens that you're, you're the mother of your child is putting forward, and you're doing your best to try to encourage actual masculinity, right?

Absolutely. And her parents are, are what? Are they on board for this? I don't know what her parents do.

You know, I don't speak with them anymore. Unless they're picking up Sawyer. But yeah, you know, when me and Sawyer hang out, we do all the masculine things. He just loves being a little boy. And I think it's so sad that anyone would want to take that from him, you know, whether it's fighting or wrestling or playing in the mud and football and scootering and biking.

He just, he's like the most boyish of all of his friends even is how would you not want the person you love most in the world? Your kid to be happy with who they are. And apparently, there's an agenda to change that. And the court ruled that your son can keep going to this doctor, Dr. Daniel alcove, who works at a youth gender clinic. Is that right? I believe she just works at a normal pediatrician or medical clinic in San Francisco for what for people on MediCal. Got it. Not Yeah, not a gender specific place.

Although there is a sign at the door at that place saying that they have some gender stuff there. It must have been. I mean, you obviously are fighting for your child. I mean, you you almost want to give up at times.

So the whole system is kind of rigged against you, right? I've never considered giving up. There was never a second in my mind. That's not who I am.

But I do understand how hard and challenging it can be that that some dads get forced into that because they end up seeing their kid once or twice a month, paying all this money going through all this this heartbreak, but to me, they'll never happen. You'd have to kill me to have me stop fighting for Sawyer. That's, that's beautiful. And an admirable closing thoughts. How can people help you, Harrison?

I know you're appealing your decision. And the fight's going to continue. It's going to continue. I have a give send go, give send go saving Sawyer. You can follow me on any social media, just send me a message, a prayer. There's been so many people reaching out to me.

It's been incredible. You all mean so much to me. I won't let you down. I won't let my son down.

And I'm going to have courage and fight for Sawyer no matter what. Yeah. And the, did the court acknowledge that your son is behaving like a boy or did they not rule on that? They just didn't say much about it and said they wouldn't rule on it. Yeah, this has been a pattern that I've seen with judges in courts is they have no interest to weigh in on biological reality at all. In fact, you know, they're the courts are ruling against men ruling in favor of men and women's sports because they say we as the courts don't care about women's sports. And women's sports because they say we as the courts don't take stances on scientific matters.

Scientific matters. It's unbelievable. Well, Harrison, keep fighting. God bless you, man. God bless you. I know that this is a very difficult situation. And I pray you will you will be successful at least you get some custody 5050 of something right?

Yeah, I haven't half the time. And I think that's why he's so aware that he's a boy and everything is going good for him. I think he needs that time with me.

Yeah, at least Yeah, at least you get some visibility with him. Well, Harrison, thank you so much. Thank you. is a public square is an app and a website where you can get connected to 10s of thousands of businesses from all different industries that share your value for life, family and freedom. Public Square is free to join and get started today. If you're a business owner join if you're a consumer join. Check it out. Download the public square app today. Michael who runs public square does a beautiful job. 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now what's been very interesting about what's happened since the Trump indictment is some of the most vocal people in the grassroots against these indictments have been black men rank-and-file everyday ordinary people in the black community but it is the black intelligentsia that are very very fired up to make sure Donald Trump rots in prison Donald Trump does not see another day in a free society play cut six well this accountability is very important and the mugshot is very important because so often we are told that no one is above the law but then time and time again we see powerful connected white men who no matter their actions are able to just continuously live above the law so for black folks in particular this is what we are seeing is sort of a crack in the usual protection that white supremacy affords and the mugshot is a part of that Renita Shannon Joy Reid Fannie Willis this is anti-white porn is what this is to them they are getting off on seeing Donald Trump's mugshot interestingly enough that's not a widely held belief it's basically now a consensus understanding this is a mistake through the mugshot completely unnecessary the most photographed man of the last 50 years maybe in just history you have more photographs of him than nobody else you need a mugshot for what they were trying to humiliate him you is using a Maoist playbook a struggle type session playbook to say we are going to humiliate you it's obviously backfired it's resulted in more fundraising in t-shirts and as you can see behind us the mugshot has almost become kind of the bat symbol the rallying cry an icon a movement it's rallying people to support Donald Trump but for Anita Shannon and Joy Reid they find delight in the suffering of Donald Trump they love the fact and this is very important they're still angry they are still upset they're never going to be at peace because for them they are very disturbed people as it is they have to try to project their own brokenness on the rest of society and deep down they think the reason why they have to take so many Xanax pills the reason why they're so depressed is because Donald Trump won in 2016 well maybe it has something to do with you maybe you got to get your own life together they're never going to stop unless we stop them and we see this New Hampshire has come out and they have said we're the Secretary of State we're gonna entertain Donald Trump me beat not being on the ballot I bet California is gonna do the exact same thing this needs to be decided by the courts almost immediately and as we have said Republican secretaries of state should send out a press release you even think about do this in other states we will not allow the traitor Joe Biden on our ballot in our state we don't love it we don't delight in it we don't rejoice in this but it's the way it has to be period end of story and whether or not that actually ends up happening understand that the radical left they fill their existential void with a 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taking time I know it's a crazy moment right now Chris I wanted to get your thoughts your opinion from the grassroots you're the top grassroots guy in the Northeast about this whisper campaign that's now getting to a shout of the Republican Secretary of State New Hampshire preventing Donald Trump on the ballot what's going on here yeah so one of our former Senate candidates met the Secretary of State and asked him what the steps would be to prevent Donald Trump from being on the ballot in our primary they're using the 14th amendment the insurrection clause section 3 I find that logic tortured the state party will fight any efforts to keep anyone off ballot in New Hampshire and typical to our live for die status and our motto and I just think it's kind of ridiculous let's let the voters decide who they want to represent us as our nominee not some Department of Justice tortured logic weaponized institution I have faith in the people and the people get to vote and let's let the people vote and pick our candidate what's really confusing Chris the guy that's filing this quirky or quickie or whatever his name is or quirky or you know something really strange the quickie quirk or whatever he is he's a former Trump endorsed like what's the story of this guy I mean see like a scorned lover or something I don't think so I know working messenger he's fellow West Point graduate we so we have a lot in common we totally disagree on this issue I think he believes he's doing the right thing but again he's a lawyer and lawyers sometimes look at things and they read words that really aren't there I've read the 14th amendment I've looked at tribes article there's nothing there it's kind of ridiculous to tell people we're gonna prevent from having a choice it's totally wrong-headed and you talk about you know the insurrection thing it's you know we also have a presumption of innocence country 5th and 14th amendment president Trump has been indicted but you know there's the old New York Circuit judge in the 1930s he said you can indict a ham Sam mm-hmm and so weaponizing the Department of Justice then trying to use what I consider fraudulent indict to keep somebody off a ballot that's third World Banana Republic type of up it is we're not gonna stand for it in New Hampshire we're just not gonna stand for it I've talked to the secretary talked to the Attorney General I am very confident that all of the 14 current candidates who apply will be on our ballot that that's promising Chris I'm glad to hear that and it's you know this is this has kind of been breaking over the weekend and so you are confident based on all conversations that this fringe legal theory this fringe lawsuit is going to be DOA dead on arrival and also Chris just from a vibe you know we're lecturing about democracy all the time Donald Trump is heavily favored to win New Hampshire right I mean I know you're not taking any position on it but right now you would agree that he has a fair amount of support in New Hampshire is that fair to say so they would be inserting themselves into someone who is the leading candidate in the first of the primary states first in the nation I agree that at this point in time Donald Trump has the highest level of support and the Republican primary as of today and we'll see what happens between now and January but today he is the favorite he does have a lot of support and not allowing those people to have his name on the ballot I think terrible mistake our Secretary of State is a really good man our Attorney General very reasonable seasoned individual again I'd have communicated with both of them I think it's highly unlikely that anyone will be kept off of our ballot well I'm pleased to hear that and Chris you know I'm here with Tyler we're gonna throw to him in a second but I just want to say you've really earned a reputation of being a grassroots guy of giving a voice to you know the people that do the work and I know the grassroots would be furious with this and I oh I love New Hampshire you guys have a Liberty streak through you know kind of your culture live free or die and this would be the death of Liberty and representative government Chris thank you so much for joining us and thanks for breaking some news with us today you know saying that this this is not gonna happen or very very unlikely as you say in New Hampshire any closing thoughts Chris the weaponization of the Department of Justice the IRS the FBI all of that is reducing our confidence in government taking somebody's name off the ballot I think would be the coup de grace and I think the cause big trouble for this country if that institutions prevented the people from voting for who they want to vote for so let's hey let's let the people decide they're with jury and let's get it on Chris we have confidence and faith in you and I know that you're going to keep on very stoically communicating with the office holders that this would be a very bad idea to prevent a former president from being on the ballot Chris great work thanks so much Tyler Boyer is with us TP action calm by the way turning point action we are hiring staff how we have like 50 people now at turning point action staff yeah we have training going on this week Wow putting more on the swing states I turn over a rock there's like another two dozen people at turning point action by the way we could get into the let's just talk about it in the grassroots showing up helping registering voters doing the tough work tell us about it yeah so I mean we just got back from the RNC meeting so I serve on the art Tyler does missionary work I was not at the RNC I was there with with Chris and Chris is one of the good guys and on the RNC and so look I can tell you this is the big concern that we have and this is this is also news so our chairwoman didn't take any questions the entire time we were at the RNC meeting for the first time ever so I had tweeted out about this so she didn't take questions and part of the reason why shouldn't take questions is because we really don't have the staff in the field presence that the Republican Party needs to be successful so this is what we've been saying all along right Charlie it was like there hasn't been enough there wasn't enough during the Wisconsin Supreme Court race there wasn't enough in 2020 in 2022 throughout those elections we have to build an army that's going to be sustainable and that's going to take lead us to victory here in here out and I know this sounds weird for people to hear I'm actually part of my spirit my hope is to cheer the RNC to be the best version of themselves yes you need a strong party and I see no evidence that so you're trying to tell me that you have 168 all 168 was there maybe 160 I'm sure some people had you know got sick or family whatever but zero questions how is that even possible so yeah there we do normally there's what they call a members only meeting and that information is usually confidential but it allows the membership to talk about complain all those different things about what's going on bring up concerns issues right that was neglected so why do you think well it is because of this right which is that the RNC is really almost rudderless in my opinion in so many different ways I mean the only way that you could go into that meeting and walk away if you're of sound mind and competency is to go wait there's a massive issue here right which is that you know obviously the debate didn't turn out as it was hoped there's a number of issues that people have and concerns about rules and I well we could talk about that we have enough content to talk about for months yes but most importantly is that's talking about winning elections that's the job of the party the party's there to win elections and there is no plan that's been laid out of how we're gonna win the presidency zero plan and so and that starts with Arizona secondly with Wisconsin third with Georgia and I can tell you being close with the number of the individuals who are in the state of Wisconsin state Georgia all of us are deeply profoundly concerned and so this is where turning point action comes in which is we're just gonna do the work part of the issue right which is like there needs there has to be a network of 20 30 40 organizations that are gonna pick up and do the work that the RNC is not gonna do and again the Democrats figured this out many years ago okay so you know I'm a talk show guy sometimes I push you know push and push when I say there's no plan I mean a hundred percent but can you just there really is no plan there is no plan I have not been I beg for a plan I would love for the RNC where I would love to be able to tell the public that we show up at RNC meetings and we have vigorous debate about the direction of the country the direction of the party the things that we need to do like the technical stuff the technical stuff that you would you need to do to make the party better but we are in there in such a fundamentally broken place of not being able to communicate and I and again I wish there are many good people I want to just say this many good people who have been involved over the years there are many good people on the RNC that are good conservatives it's not a majority it's a minority but there are good people that are there but there are many of us in that group that are going this is this is a massive issue and the only way to course-correct oftentimes is yet change leadership you got to have leadership just wake up when they're satisfied clauses or look I mean the the RNC could technically hold a vote any point but you're not changing the body until next year when all these people get elections so I like this so I this is hard for some people to believe that there's no plan so there's 168 members I wish I could come back and tell you that I I told I totally there is no plan but I when I people say that sometimes I get emails Oh Charlie come on how could you possibly say there's no plan so but just let me drill down on this 168 do you think there's a fair amount of people in the 168 that are kind of indifferent about winning that it's not their top thing you have to assume that's the case based off of the lack of accountability for direction right so I ask questions I show up I ask questions right I'm not I'm not warmly received when I ask questions that are basic you know business related questions about how the party functions you know and again I just I'm one guy's perspective of 168 people but you know I also hail from the state that you have to win and we've also swing state of swing stand we've also operated a business that does all these things yeah so you know I happen to have some some understanding of how this works so I'm curious how many of you are still donating to the RNC I'm curious email is freedom at Charlie Kirk calm and you might be without knowing it by the way because you might actually 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support somebody who's been convicted of a serious felony or who has this is disqualified under our Constitution and that's consistent with RNC rules Tyler Boyer very popular take in Arkansas so so I will tell you this so this happened at the RNC there's two two big issues the rules are what are the bylaws of the RNC so anytime that you hear this people use the term RNC rules those are the bylaws so that's what governs the RNC those can only be changed in a certain amount of time and so the way that's been laid out for how we nominate a president has been laid out and it's been the same for basically for a long long time with minor changes here and there and so no one can change those rules at this point moving forward now there are rules that are get it get it established at the convention that's a totally different deal so right now Ronna so part of the reason why a lot of people like you know explain to me why you think Ronna isn't the the one right Ronna McDaniel Romney McDaniel well you can always tell how good a chair is by who she selects as her chairs for these committees right so the current chair for the RNC committee you actually interacted with in Washington not too long ago yeah he was in the audience absolutely dislikes us because he's a toll Rhino his name is Jeff Kent he's the chair of the rules committee right now he is an absolute hates Trump hates conservatives you know loathes conservatives from the state of Washington and he's the chair of the rules committee so there is some substantial concern that who becomes the chair of the rules committee for the convention for the convention rules is also going to be bad because if it was a guy like Jeff Kent he's like Asa right he's he's he's Asa on the committee right so so yeah so everybody should be banging pots and pans saying hey we need a really good rule share so you know insert harm eat Dylan so after a harm eat lost one of the things that we've been trying to do is make sure harm eat is positioned to become rules chair for the for the convention she should be because she's actually conservative she's she's not going to backstab conservative she's one of the few she challenged Rana for obvious reasons and so we need to have an absolute stellar rules chair but he can't just come out of left field can't get him out of nowhere and if you get someone random they could totally lead and guide yep the rules for the RNC convention to screw Trump or you know mess with mess with things that would really you know create a lot of drama and if some people remember this that this happened way back in 2016 people certainly remember it from the Ron Paul stuff right where they were trying to to hurt Ron Paul way back in the day in 2012 this is why this is so important so the thing that I'm advocating for is harm eat should be the rules chair because we know she's not gonna screw us she's not gonna mess with Trump she's not gonna mess with these things she's gonna keep everything even keeled and the way that it should be so that everything's fair going into the convention so what was the drama this last meeting so Rana had agreed after a minute and a half yeah Rana had agreed after coming out of the election to bridge the gap she was going to make harm me the rules chair and and that was kind of like the okay well if you were actually willing to work with conservatives you know may harm eat the rules chair she's just dragged her feet dragged her feet dragged her feet and she's like oh well we'll make you co-chair with this Jeff Kent character out of Washington who's on the RNC with me and that who's the Rhino and all the sudden we show up to the meeting where this was supposed to happen this last week and they get up to the to the microphone and all of a sudden the rhinos on the committee are like well you can't do that you can't make her co-chair so harm me ended up becoming like more of a you know and I I can't icon vice chair than the actual co-chair of the committee which is a huge red flag heading into the convention next year yeah that I mean I guess the question is who controls the delegates controls the rules also right so it's gonna be this huge yeah action point we have but again people like the the delegate body oftentimes gets manipulated by the people at the top right so if you show up not knowing really what's going on which most delegates don't know what's going on they just kind of just wander through this stuff like most of the members of the RNC unfortunately a lot of the members of the RNC that's a problem TP action calm hiring people in really quick how many full-time staff does RNC have in Arizona zero right now turning point action has eight soon to be 15 eventually 50 and maybe a hundred we're playing to win TP action calm thanks so much for listening everybody email us your thoughts as always freedom at Charlie Kirk calm thank you so much for listening and god bless for more on many of these stories and news you can 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