The Great Anti-Speech Assault with Donald Trump Jr. and Rep. Dan Bishop

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But first, I just want to get your reaction. Trump indictment, Department of Justice Jack Smith. How is the House Republican Conference going to respond to this continual Stalinistic approach from our government? Charlie, that is the news worth talking about.

And you know me well enough to know how I'd like to respond to it. And this is something the American people need to understand and the and the leadership of the Republican Party need to continually be questioned about. We could in the spending bills being prepared right now for the September 30 fiscal year deadline, we could say we're not passing anything unless and until you defund Jack Smith's special counsel office that is prosecuting this gross attack on the First Amendment of the Constitution.

Leave aside whatever you think about Donald Trump one way or the other. This is the consummation, the brazen consummation of what we've seen and what's been called by that district judge, United States District Judge in Louisiana, as a the worst attack on free speech in the history of the United States, talking about the censorship with social media across the federal enterprise. Well, that's nothing compared to this. It is forty five pages of statements where Donald Trump said something about the election. Somebody who was an official position said something else. Therefore, Donald Trump was obliged to shut up and sit down and say nothing else about the election. And they've turned that into a crime, three crimes.

I've never seen anything like it. And and Republicans, I just want to make this clear. Republicans in the House could stop this right away. And they will. And do I expect I've seen House Republican colleagues who say, gosh, we can't even take any of the money back from the FBI for their headquarters that will be larger than the Pentagon? I can't imagine what those people will say about what I've just suggested, but we could stop it now.

So, I mean, let's just get straight to it. So we could defund, we could stop it. What why won't we? Because folks will say, well, we've got to fund the government, we've got to give the increase to the military that's necessary to keep the military strong and the soldiers pay needs to get done. We can't have the part that the Washington Monument closed.

I mean, I don't want to make light of it because they're very significant problems. And we have only one chamber of the United States Congress. We don't have the White House. So you'd have to force your way through this. But it would take serious determination. I just believe that when the interference that the FBI and the DOJ have now run in every election, in recent memory, comes to the point that they're trying to criminalize obviously protected free speech of the most recently elected president of the United States.

And oh, by the way, the leading candidate for the one major party for the next election. It is time to say enough is enough. And to me, it rises to the top of a very long list of priorities.

Yeah, it's puzzling and really frustrating. So, Congressman, tell us about your free speech bill as well. It ties into the indictment, which itself is a criminalization of wrong think.

It is. This is I mean, it's exactly what the topic was that in terms of the bill I've got. And what it does is there's long been a bill or a statute, a civil rights statute enacted right after the Civil War, that allows people to bring private claims for relief lawsuits against state officials who violate their constitutional rights. It's not been done for federal officials who violate your rights. A couple of those have been allowed in a couple of cases.

The Fourth Amendment, the Eighth Amendment under under law made by the Supreme Court over time, but not the First Amendment. And what this bill would do would put federal officials who deny First Amendment rights, who abuse First Amendment rights of private citizens in exactly the same position. You could sue federal officials for that wrong. And and that's exactly what needs to happen. Harriet Hageman of Wyoming and I have co-sponsored this bill's original sponsors. It ought to pass now.

It ought to get through. I wouldn't put it in the same priority as what I just said about defunding the DOJ's witch hunt of President Trump. But it ought to be a priority.

It could fix a lot. Yeah, I mean, look, I totally agree. By the way, we would materially benefit from this because we were targeted by our own government. And they outsource it. Right, Congressman?

And they think they're being cute or tricky. And by the way, we're entertaining a very serious lawsuit. We're in our final stages of all, I mean, it's like tons of legal fees and all this against the Department of Homeland Security, because our Twitter account was, I can't remember, is the Election Partnership Institute. They use these outsourced 501c3s. Election Integrity Partnership. There you go. Tell us more about that, Congressman.

Well, you're absolutely right. Michael Shellenberger famously dubbed it the censorship industrial complex. I prefer to call it the censorship laundering enterprise. But all of these federal agencies, as Secretary Mayorkas used the terminology, across the federal enterprise, the cybersecurity infrastructure and security agency called CISA, the FBI's foreign influence task force, the State Department's.

I can't remember what the GEC stands for. All these three letter agencies all embedded themselves with social media companies directly, but more significant, allied themselves, made grants to these pseudo academic institutions like the like the Stanford Internet Project. And they formed these ad hoc things. There was the Election Integrity Partnership.

Then there was the virality project dealing with Covid. And they just picked, you know, whole narratives to be squashed on social media. And they essentially threatened social media, essentially. They didn't essentially. They did it directly that they'd take away their Section 230 protections and so forth. They would hurt them if they didn't do what they were told. And that's what the judge in Louisiana said.

His injunction has been temporarily administratively stayed by an appellate court. But he's found in an almost 200 page opinion all the facts in terms of how they they deprived you and many other speakers. But also, more as importantly, every American who has a First Amendment right of access to information of all kinds of stuff, not stuff that just originated abroad to which that constitutional right still applies, by the way, but stuff from domestic sources, including somebody important as you. So hopefully this bill has some form of momentum.

The Democrat Party seems completely uninterested in partnering with this. In fact, their whole theme right now is trying to go after what they call disinformation of misinformation. And, you know, the work that we do on campuses at Turning Point USA, we've been warning for the last half decade, hey, there's a real troubling theme amongst college kids that they can use political power against speech they don't like. Congressman, your reaction to this broader cultural issue now starts on college campuses and now it's in the indictment. The very same thing in the indictment is I don't like your opinions, Donald Trump. Now you have a conspiracy to defraud rights. Is that an overreach or an over estimation of what's going on here, Congressman? No, it is exactly right. They are all thematically connected and it is a fundamental transformation of the Democratic Party from their prior notion.

So, you know, one of the oddest thing has been sitting in the this. I'm on the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government, of which this is one of the biggest topics. Jim Jordan, chairman. And we've had Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., right, sitting before us, testifying and attacked, vilified in real by Democrats.

Sure. And before that, other liberal and liberal reporters, Matt Taibbi, Michael Shellenberger, former liberals, I guess. But they were attacked. And in the in the grossest terms, the left has decided that it is authoritarian now.

It is it is it believes that there is an orthodox way of thinking there and wrong think will be punished. That's what they're saying. I believe this is a problem across the the political spectrum, though. And ultimately, I don't know how we get there, but ultimately because there's a BLM activist, for example, who the the Justice Department extended their reach to in one of these plots to sort of entrap people. Have you seen like in the Whitmer kidnapping plot?

All of this is related. There is a an idea that there is an orthodoxy, the deep state, if you will, the security state is going to punish people who believe wrongly. They're going to use the criminal law to do so. And it is as dangerous a threat as I've ever seen in my lifetime at 59 years old in this country. And I'm telling you that, as I say, the Jack Smith indictment of Trump is the capstone of what we're seeing in the Democratic Party that is authoritarian to its core at the moment.

These people are Maoists. Congressman Bishop, great work. We have your back. Thank you so much.

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Relief factor dot com. Boy, this this clip has been memory hold. Ryan, good job. Our team has done a great job.

Our clipping team, you know who you are finding this clip. You see, this indictment hinges on something that we saw out of Covid, where the prime minister of New Zealand said this. And I only know about this because Dennis Prager, to his credit, he talks about this like once a week on his radio program. And I love Dennis and he's amazing and he's terrific. So Dennis repeats it, repeats it, repeats it. So it's kind of I only remember it thanks to Dennis.

And so he's done a great service where it was and it was seemingly an offhanded comment. But boy, does this it is the exact same idea toxin that is embedded in this indictment. Before I get to the Mike Pence thing, I just have to play this. I believe this is the tape. It's cut 77, who this was the prime minister of New Zealand. I don't know if she's still the prime minister or not, where she effectively says, if you do not hear it from the government, it is not true.

Play cut 77. And we will share with you the most up to date information. You can trust us as a source of that information. You can also trust the director general of health and the Ministry of Health. Otherwise, dismiss anything else.

We will continue to be your single source of truth. Otherwise, dismiss anything else. There's another clipper. She says it even more bluntly than that. But that's the essence of it. I remember it was a different one at a press conference.

That actually is fine. The true quote where she says, we'll continue to be your single source of truth unless you hear it from us. It is not the truth.

March 19th, 2020. If you do not hear it from the government, it is not true. That's what this indictment is. This indictment makes that case.

If you do not hear election claims from us, they are not true. No questioning, no disagreement, no pushback. Okay. I got to a 10 yesterday. I don't like getting to 10. It's not fun. I don't get to a 10 very often.

Thankfully, the steam blew over, but I'm still pretty fired up. I expect Chuck USchumer, AOC, Pocahontas, Bernie Sanders. I expect them to do their thing. Donald Trump's a criminal. Donald Trump's criminal. Donald Trump's criminal. You know, for entertainment, I watch Morning NECA and they have a competition how many times they can say, insurrection, sedition, conspiracy, traitor, threat of democracy.

If that is the drinking game, you would have to have your stomach pumped. Every 20 seconds they say it. It's a threat to democracy. I'm Eugene Robinson.

I'm talking a barely decipherable way. We don't have an opposition party. Mike Pence comes out yesterday and I saw this tweet and I got blitzen mad.

And I still am. Today's indictment serves as an important reminder. Anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. Mike Pence. First of all, Mr. Pence, this is an indictment, not a conviction. He is treating this indictment as if it's totally true. The same regime that lied about the Russia hoax, lied about the vaccine, lied about lockdowns, lied about the source of COVID, lied about Ukrainian, situational stuff happening in Ukraine, lied about all of it.

And yet we must take what they're saying as gospel. Here is what he has said in Mike Pence's own words. I will have more to say about the government's case after reviewing the indictment. The former president is entitled to the presumption of innocence, but with this indictment, his candidacy means more talk about January 6 and even more distractions, Mike Pence calls it.

As Americans, his candidacy means less attention paid to Joe Biden's disastrous economic policies, afflicting millions across the United States and the pattern of corruption with Hunter. Our country is more important than one man. Our Constitution is more important than any one man's career. On January 6, former President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution. I choose the Constitution and always will. As your president, I will not yield an inch in defending America.

Our people, our values, I promise you, I will do so in a consistent with my oath to the Constitution and the character and decency of the American people will restore a threshold of integrity and civility in public life so we can bring real solutions to the challenges plaguing our nation. Mike Pence, where is the opposition party? You have an out of control deranged lunatic, Jack Smith, who's shaking. He's like shaking. Something wrong with that guy in the press conference.

This guy's like a feral dog. And I got Mike Pence having to lecture us that it's Donald Trump. Lecture us that it's Donald Trump. Not the out of control administrative state.

Not this. And here's the point is that Mike Pence wants to be spared. Mike Pence knows that this Department of Justice is out of control. He thinks that true conservative is to surrender as long as I get book deals and I get to be controlled opposition. Mike Pence is David French conservatism. Vichy French conservatism. Eat me last conservatism. Mike Pence says you can indict everybody but don't touch me because I say acceptable stuff but we'll never actually be totally disagreeable or challenge the real issues that are destroying America.

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Wonderful resource charlieforhillsdale.com. Joining us now is a great American, Donald Trump Jr. Don, thank you for making time for us. Your reaction to your father being indicted again on federal charges this time in Washington D.C. Well Charlie I mean it's getting old. It's like taco Tuesday, it's indictment Tuesday. It just happens every week and amazingly enough Charlie it seems to happen every week the day after there are major Biden revelations. Whether it was earlier in the summer when the FBI shows the evidence that Joe Biden was involved. The next day there was the original Mar-a-Lago indictment. Then you had the Hunter Biden-Kush plea deal you know two weeks ago that was a better deal than any human being would ever get in the world. Plus blanket immunity for anything else he may have done in perpetuity. The next day they add on to the Trump thing. Then you have Devin Archer, Hunter Biden's business partner and BFF going in to testify before house oversight.

But magically Charlie as though we haven't noticed the pattern already the next day to distract from what's actually going on in the real world. The actual most corrupt president to ever fit in the Oval Office. You know stuff that makes Watergate seem like kindergarten. You have another Trump indictment you know we're on what you know 4,763. I mean we live in a banana republic Charlie there's no other way to talk about it. I mean the political persecution of your enemies in a democracy in a republic such as ours isn't supposed to happen and yet it's happening and you know who's incredibly silent?

Our masters in the big tech skier. Our mainstream media you know they talk about the Trump indictment not what's actually going on with people who control the nuclear codes who have brought us to the brink of World War III with Russia. You know again over money made in the Ukraine so who knows what else they have on the Bidens that's causing us to spend not just 130 billion dollars but also bring us perhaps to the brink of nuclear war. That's what's going on in our country. It's a sad state of affairs and it's pretty pathetic.

So Don I want to just reinforce what you're saying here. Here's a timeline. This is real stuff and I'd love for some of these reporters to respond. June 7th FBI releases documents to Congress alleging the Bidens took a 10 million dollar bribe from Burisma. June 8th Jack Smith indicts Trump in Mar-a-Lago documents. July 26th Hunter Biden goes to court and gets rejection of the sweetheart plea deal. July 27th Jack Smith adds more charges for Trump in the Mar-a-Lago case. July 31st Devin Archer testifies. August 1st Jack Smith indicts Trump again on January 6th.

That's like three in a row Don. And so what I have been most fired up about is the lack of response from Republicans. Mike Pence tweeted of your reaction to this yesterday Don. Yesterday Mike Pence said today's indictment serves as an important reminder anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. Don your reaction to Mike Pence? I've always spoken highly of Mike Pence.

I like them as an individual. I you know I had not been critical uh of him for you know plenty of things that I disagree with him on but uh reading that and knowing what's going on and he knows full well because he was part of Russia Russia Russia and you know the precursors to all of this I was wrong to have thought as highly of Mike Pence. Yeah it's um it's I'll tell you there's I've been more restrained than most uh on the uh on the Pence thing.

Don what is your reaction to the Devin Archer revelations and then what you had to go through with the Russia collusion nonsense for a couple years? Yeah so just you know for perspective I did 50 hours of testimony. You had the head of the house intelligence committee saying that I had committed treason a crime punishable by death. So for perspective I took a 15-20 minute meeting that everyone agrees was exactly as I stated uh 50 hours of testimony for treason.

I mean that's kind of a big one you know uh and that happened in a tiny fraction a matter of months. Uh there was you know I'd looked at business deals with these people before they were developers in Moscow remember before we got into the world of politics we actually built buildings. I don't know what Hunter Biden did before that other than peddle influence because his father was a career politician. There's credible paper trails millions of dollars exchanged corrupt regimes whether it's China Ukraine Russia money tied to human trafficking drug trafficking sex trafficking whatever like you can't even make up though it reads like it's a scene out of narcos and that's before you get to the Hunter Biden laptop from hell the lies the cover-up the full-fledged interference by not just our mainstream media not just big tech but also our intelligence agencies um and operatives. Uh it seems it seems that if Don Jr would have done the things that Hunter Biden did even a tiny fraction of them he'd be in Gitmo right now and rightfully so. Uh the fact that there's barely even coverage um of these things that there's barely I mean again this stuff makes Watergate seem like garb like nothing you know and I remember during Russia Russia Russia you know the Bob Woodward this is where there's been like you know every other day was something Trump did was worse than Watergate even though he never did the things that they said were worse but they you know they created that narrative.

Well where are they now Charlie? Their silence is deafening to deafening because you know if you're telling me that we're on the brink of war with Russia we're funding not only a proxy war but a boots on the ground war in in Europe what could possibly go wrong with a nuclear superpower that has more warheads than we do uh I'd say that's bigger than Watergate uh if we're making decisions and sending 130 billion dollars and you know a probably large portion of the 220 billion that the pentagon magically cannot account for uh you know we're a corrupt and broken regime if we don't have a mainstream media that isn't even willing to ask the questions or republicans who don't want to go all in because they're either a part of it or don't want to know the answers. I mean if that's not bigger than Watergate I don't know what is uh I don't know what is but it's happening right now and you have a president that's sitting in there bringing us closer to the brink of war can't get through a sentence but you know we're going to keep them in power because the democrats have taken over every institution in our country and they've weaponized them and politicized them just like you see with the further indictments from jack smith this week last week the week before that three weeks before that etc etc etc let's play cut 46. I just it's just strange credulity that he flies to china with his son and doesn't ask once by the way where are you going to go in china you know what are the are you doing business here uh that he makes all these calls to these food to dinners with foreign characters and he doesn't say who were those guys why were you meeting it just it's just not very believable we have to find out it's a full story here i think this is is shaping up to be one of the greatest corruption scandals in in the history of washington and that is saying a lot now jonathan turley is a very fair-minded guy don he's not he's not maga by any means for him to say that that carries significant weight your reaction it it should carry significant weight because he's a hundred percent right uh you know this is insanity uh honestly there should be democrats saying something about i know if it was me they would be but i mean we're making decisions that could take us to nuclear war and they're uh you know who knows if it's tied together who knows if it's this i mean they i guess it's okay if a democrat does it i mean this is insanity i i legitimately feel like i'm living in the truman show charlie i'm waiting for like a tv camera to pop out of the ceiling and find out that i'm just being punked because it can't possibly be happening in the america that i know and love and yet it is before our very eyes uh every day so uh we better wake up to what's actually going on or or we're going to be in serious trouble because we're no better than any of the banana republics uh we like to throw stones at proverbially uh about the way they run themselves i mean this is you know the jack smith the the press conference yesterday it's literally that and honestly the republican rhinos that are trying to maintain and or grab power by adopting uh the liz cheney adam kensinger adam schiff uh you know january 6th unselect committee talking points to try to win some political capital during a primary they're just as bad as the democrats so in closing here don i want to get just kind of your reaction um there have been unfortunately the other republicans running for the presidency ron disantis and others the best one has been vivake to his credit they are not coming out very strong about this administrative state state crusade against the top leading opponent can you just give us some window into the campaign it looks like your father has more resolve more fortitude more fight than ever just give us a little bit of a picture in how thing how your father is dealing with this and how he's more committed than ever to win the election in november of 2024 yeah no he's doing great i spoke to him yesterday obviously after the news just checking in you know hey how you doing yeah hey well hey how you doing it's oh freaking wonderful sorry but honestly like i think we've just become so normalized to it and you know that's not a normal emotional response that's not supposed to be what happens when no it's when this goes on but i think you know we all understand what's going on we all see it you know i saw you know ron de sanctimonious yesterday with his well i will now you know in in the high-pitched squeal voice of his well now take on the weaponization of government hey ron that's weird i remember three weeks ago when like you said that it wasn't really a real thing and it wasn't a priority not now you're going to take it on like you know yet another flip-flop and with someone that i thought actually had some potential for the future of our party it turns out i guess once you run for higher office you're just bought by the you know the coral robes of the world and you're you know consultants who you know have their other uh other motives than uh say putting america first so you know yet another flip-flop from these guys you just realize how sad of a state of affairs not just uh for the country in general but even within our own party uh we just have a bunch of weaklings and they're all beholden uh to the others and to the dc uni-party establishment and you know that's why they're going after trump so hard they want to break that they want to make sure that not only does trump never get back in there because he's the only threat to the power that they hold but they also want to make sure to pass a message to anyone in the future who might hold a similar viewpoint who may have been successful in the real world not just within their bureaucracy uh and wants to get involved and and take part uh in our democratic process uh they want to send a message to them loud and clear don't even think about stepping uh into our turf or we'll ruin you and if you're a successful guy you've done really well for yourself you know why on earth would you even bother uh they would love for that apathy to exist so they can maintain their power because without it they're nothing without it they wouldn't be able they'd barely be able to survive they're good at one thing and functioning and that's functioning in a bureaucracy it's sort of like anthony founty was never the best doctor he was never the smartest he was never the this but he probably was the best bureaucrat you know he figured out how to get in front of every camera he figured out his snake anyone who actually had a good idea and probably take it uh and and create power turns out the guy's been wrong about everything for 40 years and yet he's still he was still in the top position forever uh you know because credibility accountability none of that matters he's playing that game and they want to make sure that no one else is willing to get in that sandbox don we have your back keep fighting it's amazing how much your family sacrifice check out a show on rumble hey charlie kirk here if you guys love this program and you want to support this program if we have impacted or blessed your life in any way i want to tell you about a new thing that we are starting it up first of all if you have supported us at 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members.charliekirk.com okay something that we laid out a couple weeks ago was how the alternate electors were going to be the attack vector against donald trump this has no legal basis this is a total fiction but they're trying to create this quote-unquote legal conspiracy around the idea of alternate electors now we saw this very clearly and this is exactly why they had to go after the maga supporters the rank and file maga supporters in michigan this was us on our program laying it out play cut 67. what is noteworthy here and we'll go into the details of it is why now why is this all bubbling up now and it's obvious the alternate elector piece is critical to be able to prove donald trump quote-unquote prove donald trump was a seditious conspiracist it is by no coincidence whatsoever that donald trump gets a letter from jack smith and simultaneously the michigan attorney general moves on these quote-unquote alternate electors they're all tied together and this is the largest part of the indictment if you read through the indictment it says in great detail that the core of it is the core conspirators co-conspirators putting together alternate electors which by the way alternate electors had legal precedent of being selected and chosen in the kennedy nixon 1960 election so the question is how do we make it so they go after senior citizens in michigan first to the michigan attorney general a totally captured state by the way michigan is totally captured it's really sad and then they're able to write this indictment saying aha see they worked in tandem together to overthrow the government so they were trying to overthrow the government by sending in alternate electors how does that work exactly the vice president could have sent it back to the states and the judge in 1960 who who selected the alternate electors in the hawaii controversy of kennedy and nixon said explicitly if you would have not have sent those electors it could not had been chosen the judge said that in 1960 the 1960 election if you had have not have sent them we would not have been able to select them and let me i just i'm curious if you're trying to overthrow the government who tweets about it every single one of these alternate electors tweeted in real time with pictures and selfies here's our alternate electors that's a rather weird way to overthrow the government it was obviously a publicity stunt and part of it was also like hey if there is you know irregularities here's the electors and there's two components of it and john eastman talked about it on our program component number one is that how these elections were conducted themselves were illegally conducted because they changed election law without going through the state legislature so they send alternate electors saying the entire election itself might be invalidated as an illegal exercise long shot but potential the second of which is there enough quote unquote fraud or irregularities of ballot signatures mass mail and balloting all this stuff it was an open question and that was that is the core of all of this you live in a free society when you can ask questions even dumb questions remember when you grew up you said there's no such thing as a dumb question we used to teach our kids that there's no such thing as a dumb question now a bad question or a wrong think question can land you in prison for 515 years the mark of a tyranny you know you're living in a tyrannical country when you cannot question soviet soviet union would say oh there's harvest no it's a drought go to jail go to the gulag thanks so much for listening everybody email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and god bless to defend the sanctity of human life this is your moment to get in the fight every tax deductible gift will be doubled join the aclj in the fight to keep america free