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The Cowards Who Lead the GOP with Darren Beattie and Benjamin Spell

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August 15, 2023 7:53 pm

Every Democrat AG is building their career on wild prosecutions aimed at Donald Trump and his associates. Meanwhile, their Republican counterparts sit helplessly, doing nothing. Darren Beattie of Revolver News joins to explain the spirit of cowardice gripping the right, and why purging that spirit is essential to have any hope of victory. Plus, it is a principle of history that whoever controls the food supply controls the world. Benjamin Spell of Good Ranchers  talks about the left's war on meat and the importance of a meat-based diet for maximum human well-being.

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Yeah. Good morning. Ben, welcome back. Well, I don't know if you've ever been on the program, but welcome back to Phoenix. Yeah, glad to be here.

Thanks for having me. And so you are running a really important company called Good Ranchers, one of my favorite companies. Yeah. And I love meat.

I don't eat any carbohydrates basically, just proteins and fats. And you guys have the highest quality meat and you personally, former pastor, right? Yeah.

We see the world the same way. Just riff on your company. It's great.

GoodRanchers.com. Yeah. Like you said, I was a former pastor just about six years ago and my wife and I had been kind of talking about transitioning and literally just heard God's voice one morning, go and start a meat company. And we talked about it, prayed about it and felt that was what we were supposed to do with no knowledge of agriculture or entrepreneurship or anything. So we set out and we sold everything we had and just put our money into doing that. We just had our firstborn little boy and that was in 2017. We started in 2018 and God just blessed us right from the beginning. And we had no idea what we were doing, but thankfully, God had a plan for us. And then we realized right as we got into 2020, so 2018, 2019, we had two decently successful years. When we started, it was me selling meat in a parking lot in a truck.

That's what I was doing. And what we realized as we started getting some buying power and started purchasing more, that almost everything we were buying at that time was coming from Mexico, coming from South America. That's what people don't know, that it's foreign-sourced meat repurposed as American meat when you go to your local grocery store. And everything had a USDA stamp on it and all this. And so as we started looking into it, we realized, oh, wow, there's actually no country of origin labeling law for beef or pork in the U.S. It got quietly repealed in 2015. Prior to 2015, you had to have a country of origin labeling stamp for beef and for pork.

And it just quietly just went away. And now over 3 billion pounds of beef gets imported into the U.S. every year and it's being sold in the grocery stores, it's being sold online, and consumers don't know. People think that because they're buying meat at their grocery store or their local butcher or buying it online from an American company, you just assume that you would be getting meat that's coming from American farms. And it's just not the case. So when we found that out, we drew a line in the sand.

Like I said, this was early 2020, drew a line in the sand and said, you know what? We are only going to source from American farms and ranches, which we actually found out is harder than you would think. And so we set up on that journey and then we realized that's when we realized that no one even knows this and no one's talking about it. And why it's important is, I mean, if you look back in history as far back as you want to go, whoever controls the food supply controls the people. And we are actively just relinquishing control of our food supply. We're giving up our farmland just left and right.

And we have to take control of it. We have to support American farms. We have to support American ranches. Otherwise, we're going to find ourselves in a situation where we're looking to other countries to feed us.

And so you guys could check it out at GoodRanchers.com. This is a super important topic as you kind of touching on. Look, you look at Bill Gates, the synthetic meat movement, they can control you if they can control the food supply. And there's a lot to this from the mRNA shots. And I just want to say I love Good Ranchers. Every one of our Shabbat dinners, we have all of our Good Ranchers meat. We run out of it pretty quick.

And from the chicken to the cowboy, it's amazing. And by the way, just riff on this for a second here, Ben, there's this movement to try to get rid of meat in our society. I think it's really damaging. It's not scientific.

I think it's trying to create metrosexual beta males that are more subservient to a tyrannical government. Yeah, we've been demonizing meat and especially cattle for such a long time. And I say by we, I mean just the people have kind of just been sitting by silently just letting it happen.

And we have to stop. The meat is actually good for you. Being a carnivore is what produces testosterone in men. Literally.

Yeah, literally. So we have to eat meat. It's what makes us men, actually. I mean, just so everyone's clear, we don't know if it's necessarily only because of this, but testosterone rates are down like 80 percent from where they were 30 or 40 years ago.

The average male in his 20 or 30s has a 280 to 350 free testosterone rate where it should be between 750 and 900 just looking at the spectrum. And no one wants to talk about this. And if you go to Seattle and Portland, you can see it. I mean, the men are basically feminized women. I'm not saying that eating meat will solve all the problems, but it certainly won't hurt. But they're also trying to get rid of meat because of climate change, too.

Yeah. And, you know, there as of January of this year, there's 28, a little over 28 million cattle in the U.S. raised for beef. Two hundred years ago, there were over 60 million bison roaming the North American.

Well, my point is there were 60 million bison roaming freely and there was no climate change issues. We only have half of that raised for beef in the U.S. right now. And like I said, there's just this demonization of beef. And for some reason, the U.S. beef gets it worse than, I don't know, places like China. I don't know if you've been to a steakhouse recently or lately, but this is a pet peeve of mine. Every steakhouse I go to, the first thing they want to sell you is Japanese A5 or Japanese Wagyu. Wagyu beef, yes, sure. Right. And but yet we're demonizing American ranches, American beef that's raised here, which I personally believe is the best beef in the world.

You also support your country, too. That's right. That's what I'm saying.

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Be very careful, especially if you're a man. I'm telling you, you have it's possible, but the protein you have to literally just be like just dumping protein into your shakes. You even get to equilibrium or you could have a nice steak. That's right. Right. Ben, I mean, this is I also believe there's there's amino acid benefits to eating meat. And some people say, oh, well, red meat has heart issues. Yeah.

If you're like 300 pounds overweight. Yeah. It's old science. I mean, it's and it's not even science, but it's old.

It's old data. Many, many, many nutritionists today. I mean, you can Google, Google it, look it up for yourself. They'll tell you meat is essential. It is healthy.

Andrew Huberman, who is really well respected Stanford neuroscientist, who does a series of long form podcasts on just the data. He was asked, they said by Peter Attia or somebody asked him, they said, if you could just eat one thing, if you had only one thing where it checked all the boxes, he said, oh, a good steak. He said it picked it checks that you get you get protein, you get good fats. There's no carbohydrates, amino acids.

And well, there's the thing. We need fats and the fats we do found in meat are the high animal fats are good for you and you need fats. In the 70s, we started this war against fat, everything fat free with the processed food.

And we wonder, by the way, you need in the hormone production, the hormone production sequence fats are a necessary precursor to create testosterone. Now, too much fat could be bad for you. However, I mean, too much saturated fat.

Your body doesn't do that. However, it's actually carbohydrates that are the problem a lot more than fats. Yeah. Our obesity problem in the US isn't coming from from red meat. It's coming from doughnuts. Yeah.

Carbohydrates, you know, and your body make it turning that into glucose and then storing it as fat. Yeah, absolutely. OK, so it's good ranchers dot com. You guys can use promo code Kirk for it. Burgers and prime pork box and the cattlemen and the cowboy. And it's just a terrific company, easy to navigate website.

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Got it. OK, so by the way, someone just said, Charlie, my husband has been carnivore for two years. His blood cholesterol results are the best he's ever had.

Our doctor says, keep doing our doing. And he's shocked because the medical community told him to only eat carbohydrates. But the fact once he went to red meat, everything got better. I mean, I'm the same way.

The less carbs I eat and the more steak and meat I eat with healthy fats, I do better. But let's talk about this M.R.N.A. in our food supply.

What's going on here? Well, to be clear, there is currently no M.R.N.A. vaccines being used in cattle in the U.S. right now. But just like with the country and country of origin labeling law, it it was just silently repealed through through Congress with really with the U.S. population.

Not knowing the M.R.N.A. vaccine has been in testing for over a decade in for cattle, for not just cattle, but for animal use for over over 10 years. They've been testing it, tweaking it. And Congress started talking about it earlier this year and beginning to lobby for the use of it. And the American people are now got wind of it and are speaking out. So, you know, we kind of we were one of the first we were the first company to to put out a statement and say we we will not use the M.R.N.A.

vaccine. We will not mandate it and we will not use it. And then we actually came under quite a bit of attack from the agricultural community saying you're spreading this information.

It's not even allowed. And and you're you're fear mongering, just trying to get sales. And we weren't doing any of that, because just like with the country of origin labeling law, if we don't get loud about it and let the people know that, hey, this could be a thing. This is something that they're talking about behind the scenes. This is something that they're lobbying for.

If we don't let the people know that, then it just quietly happens. And and the the way the law is right now is you don't have to you don't have to disclose disclose what vaccines you use in animals at all. So that's a problem. So how many vaccines does an animal usually usually get? Well, I mean, it's so every animal is different. So with like with our with with chickens, nothing like chickens. I mean, it's a six week animal life cycle. Oh, is it really? Yeah. Well, I mean, by the way, our chickens.

Yeah. And with a six week life cycle, you shouldn't have to use antibiotics. You shouldn't have to use vaccines. You should be able to keep them healthy and in a clean environment for six weeks to go from hatch to harvest cattle. On the other hand, you're talking about two years in in fields out in the cold. They get they you know, they can they are herd animals, which means if if one gets sick, they're all going to get sick.

So very minimal. You almost every rancher in the U.S. is going to use a vaccine to fight against just a common cold. And that's at birth. But outside of that, they shouldn't need anything. They shouldn't have to have antibiotic over antibiotic use or even antibiotic use, because, again, they should be in healthy environments where they don't have to be sick, not shoved in pens, not shoved in feedlots.

They should have open air, open fields and be able to grace. And the same thing is true. Same thing was true with pork. So I got our pork.

We're so proud. You know, people always say that you can't cook pork all the way through because you'll get sick. And that's with commodity pork, pork that's raised poorly. But our pork is raised so clean. The bacteria like chicken has salmonella. The bacteria in pork is called trichinosis. And our pork has no traces of trichinosis because it's raised.

I never knew you couldn't cook pork all the way through. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah.

I really stay away from. Yeah. If you if you're buying pork at the grocery store, you better cook it to temperature because it's going to have. Oh, no, you should cook it all the way through. That's yes. OK.

Yes. But our pork is so it's raised so clean. It does not have trichinosis. And you actually could undercook it if you wanted to.

And no fear. Foodborne illness. Look, the Web site right now is good ranchers dot com with the Maui fires and potential food shortages and all sorts of questions about the totalitarian control of food. This is super important. Final thoughts, Ben.

Yeah, exactly what you just said. You should stock up. And we don't believe in fear mongering or anything like that. But I think every American who can should have a chest freezer in their garage and fill it with essentials. You should have you should have meat. Meat can stay if meat is vacuum sealed, which all of our meat comes individually wrapped and vacuum sealed. If meat is vacuum sealed, it'll stay good in a freezer for well over two years.

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I fully expect there to be another one. But look, this is even though it's at the state level, it's part of essentially a conspiracy amongst a weaponized justice department at the both state and federal level for the Democrats to eliminate their most viable political opponent coming into 2024. We're in complete banana boat territory in that respect. Then there's the substantive aspect pertaining to the indictment here, which is a really sort of contortionist approach to conspiracy law, whereby we're given this ridiculous theory that tweets of perfectly First Amendment speech, protected speech, are now considered to be overt acts of a conspiracy and effectively illegal. And so Trump tweeting, hey, go watch OAN now or go watch this hearing about, you know, proceeding in Georgia about the election case.

Those tweets are illegal. And so this is sort of an extension of the overall thrust of the previous federal indictment, effectively attempting to criminalize what one might call election denial, to criminalize in effect any public speech that calls into question the legitimacy of the 2020 election. And this is very convenient because this in itself is effectively a conspiracy to remove Trump from the chessboard in 2024. But in so doing, it also contains precedent preventing people at the pain of criminal punishment for calling into question the very illegal procedures they're using here in order to disenfranchise Trump supporters and criminalize Trump's behavior and take him off the chessboard.

So there's a lot going on there. It is really yet another escalatory step in the already simply obnoxious and untenable level of political abuse that we see the Justice Department, both at the federal level and here at the local level in Georgia and Polk County. So, Darren, why has the reaction from Republicans been so underwhelming? You know, we're hearing from people do something, do something. I do not know of a single Republican attorneys general that has active investigations against powerful Democrats or a local DA.

Why is that? And is it time for Republicans to start to realize the only way we stop it is we have to have a mutually assured destruction pact with the American Democrat Party? Yes, I appreciate the reference here. And I did see your discussion with Mike Pence that I think was really excellent. And indeed, on the cutting edge of what we should be thinking about in terms of a broad based response to this unprecedented level of lawfare, we're seeing really hardball lawfare we're seeing from the Democrats and really the regime more broadly. And the idea that you're suggesting is, look, if it's going to be a situation where effectively any Republican that isn't rubber stamped by the regime is going to anticipate and expect criminal punishment, possibly even jail time, if that's the situation we're in, then we need our people, our DAs, so to speak, our attorneys general in the respective states in which we have control and jurisdiction to play the same game tit for tat and say, okay, you want to indict Trump in Georgia? We'll indict Hunter Heerl. We'll indict, you know, the Democrats are so criminal, we're not at a loss for opportunities here if we wanted to play that game. The impediment here is really the will. And this is the question. The reality is Republicans are not really set up to play that kind of hardball.

No. And so this is interesting, Darren. I mean, it's very Nietzschean, right? Do we have the will to power? Because this is like an unknown concept for people on the right. And in some, let me just say this as a first sentence, I'm glad that Republicans are hesitant to use power.

You shouldn't want to, you don't want to be part of a political movement that is constantly enthusiastic to use power. Simultaneously, that old gentleman's agreement of we don't go after your guys, you don't go after our guys, you know, the kind of if you've been a former president, absent, you know, murdering somebody with an axe on public television, like we're not going to indict you, right? I mean, Bill Clinton flew with minors for sex to a Caribbean island. And that's just the beginning of stuff that we could be looking into Bill Clinton for. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton had a backwards money laundering operation called the Clinton Foundation.

And I mean, she smashed devices, all that. But the institutional Republicans are always like, well, it would set a precedent. We don't want to overly politicize our system. That's dead.

It doesn't exist. And so, Darren, let me just be more specific. What is it going to take if this indictment, this thing, which, by the way, is more than Trump, Jenna Ellis, Jeffrey Clark, these people are going to have to go into debt and double mortgage their homes to be able to pay for legal fees of something that's probably going to get thrown out, criminalizing watching cable television. And yet I do not see the action from our Republican attorneys general or prosecutors or local DAs.

Darren Beatty. It's a great point. And I just want to say, yes, this is you know, they're using RICO charges, which is kind of ridiculous. These are charges typically, you know, the whole concept of RICO charges emerges merged as a kind of bespoke response to the problem of organized crime. And, you know, the implication here is obvious that they would use it against Trump. And in fact, this particular DA has used similar charges, ironically, and I think most famously going after a cheating scandal in Atlanta. And how ironic that now she's using the same type of charges to support a much broader and more significant cheating scandal, effectively at the national level, to cheat the Americans out of a fair election yet again in 2024.

Kind of ironic in that respect. And also, I'd like to say, given that it's a RICO charge, there are other conspirators, they call it the enterprise, like they use a lot of language here. And Jeffrey Clark is someone we've written about extensively. He's a great hero. It's really a tragedy what's happened to him.

Eastman as well. They're dragging a lot of good people into the mud here, and it's really a shame. As for what we can do, as I said, the theoretical answer is clear. It's a tit-for-tat approach in which we refocus our attention and our energy and our efforts into marshaling a robust lawfare campaign that can compete at the level of what they're doing to us, at least to the point where we can say, OK, we can inflict pain on you, too. Let's let's stop this game and get back to regular, legitimate, you know, democratic sound. I know. And this is, Darren, you and I are not enjoying talking like this.

I'd love to go back to the country we grew up in where you don't have local D.A. sniping off the top political challenger to a regime. Not healthy. We call it third world. It is it's unsustainable, as Newt Gingrich accurately put it. He said, we are now entering a generation of bitterness.

I totally agree. This is not going to be solved overnight. This is not going to be some sort of kumbaya session. But, Darren, I just I don't see the fight. I see Republicans that are just taking it.

I see there is no fight. And I regret to say I have to be even more cynical than you are because there is one understanding, according to which all the Republicans are just so principled and just, you know, they're naive, but good and principled people. And I think this is actually much more the case at the retail level, at the level of voters who are, in many cases, kind of naive and principled, because especially older voters, you know, remember a country that doesn't exist anymore.

And the norms that allegedly prevailed back then. But the actual Republicans in charge, they're not principled. They're simply cowards. And you can tell this by the fact that they don't always resist hardball. They're perfectly willing to play hardball when it comes to attacking people who violate the regime's norms. When attacking people who go a little bit too far to the right. And in Trump's case, in attacking Trump and anything associated with Trump, the Republicans played hardball against Trump. So they're perfectly capable and willing to play hardball.

They're just not set up to play hardball against the actual people who deserve it, which in this case is the corrupt, illegitimate, malicious and ridiculous filth running the regime largely slanted for the Democrat Party. It's a question of the will. I wrote about this a year and a half ago in a short little booklet we distributed for Turning Point USA. And what infuriates me, Darren, is the people have the will. The voters have the will. It'd be one thing if I went around to these rallies, Darren, I spoke to 4,000 people this weekend in blue state of Washington, the Evergreen State. 4,000 people over four events.

Lincoln, Reagan Day, Dinners, Churches. And they are fired up, Darren. They're angry.

They're mad. They're talking the way we are. Our ask is super simple. Can our leaders be in alignment with our voters? Well, you know, Trump is really the person who tests the proposition. You know, Lincoln said we test the proposition whether such a nation can survive of the people, by the people, for the people. Trump is really the test of the proposition of whether an elected leader can be viable in the United States who's actually aligned with what voters want.

And so far, that's very much an open question, unfortunately, given the position that the regime has put him in with these types. Darren Beatty, check out Revolver.News. It's an excellent website.

I visit it every single day. You know, Turning Point Action, our political arm, our 501c4, somebody asked me, they said, Charlie, what's the mission statement of Turning Point Action? I said our short term mission is to get the Republican Party as conservative as their voters.

That shouldn't be too hard to do. Darren, give us give us some more detail about how the intel agencies, both internationally and domestically, use a playbook of provocation. Well, I mean, they want to provoke another thing, like not what January 6 actually was, but they want to provoke a real instance of what they claim January 6 was falsely.

And we know that it was a feds erection and the smoking guns of the feds erection are Ray Epps and the pipe bombs. But what they don't want to provoke is precisely the same type of response that we were talking about in the earlier segment, which is the one and only necessary response, which is Republicans refocusing their efforts, their energy and their resources to creating a robust law fair machine that can counter the weaponization of the Justice Department and the DA's on the state level the Democrats have been doing. If we don't have that, we don't have anything. You might as well never send another donation to a political candidate again if we don't have that. You might as well not go to the voting booth if we don't have that.

That is the precondition for having a society in which voting or even free speech matters. And we've learned that the game isn't what we may have thought it was. The game is not having the right ideas. The game is not winning the arguments. The game is not even winning elections in the narrow sense of the term winning, of actually having more people vote for your person than the other person. The game is in controlling dissemination of information, as we've learned with the censorship problem at the big tech level and the government level. And the even deeper problem is the political weaponization of the Justice Department, of the legal system.

If you don't have the legal system in order, you don't have anything really. And so that I think would be overwhelmingly the chief focus of all of our endeavors going forward at basically the fundraising level, at the resource level and at the messaging level as well. Yeah, I am optimistic about the people, our audience.

We have the best audience in all of podcasting and live streaming and Real America's Voice. They're on top of it. They get it. They're aware.

They're engaged. Darren, I don't see it from the leaders. I see timidity. I see cowardice.

I see excuses. And so part of it is just, hey, take the actual people and get them into some sort of alignment. Our people are begging for something to be done, and I'll be honest, nothing is going to get done in the short term because, Darren, the final thought is because some of these leaders who might be really honorable on a church elder board, they might be really effective at running a local coffee shop. They might be good at a local law firm, standing up to local bullies, but some of them are now thrust into a wartime environment. And they're scared.

Final thoughts, Darren Beatty? Well, you're right in the sense it's a structural problem. It's an institutional problem. But in order to fix it, we have to fix it person by person. And the first step for that is reorienting our attention and our messaging and our resources for fixing this problem. If we don't have a system of laws, we don't have a democracy, period. Everything else is worthless. Even the free speech question is secondary to having a functioning and fair legal system.

Right now, we don't have. Well, look, every tyranny is based on the idea that I get to take away your immediate liberty because I have the handcuffs and you don't. You look at Joseph Stalin. What made him a tyrant? It was the raids at 3 a.m. where he was able to expunge dissidents and even more shockingly, his allies, because he wanted everyone to be afraid that someone might be knocking on the door.

The book Darkness at Noon by Arthur Kessler is one of the most important books that you should read right now about what happens when a regime starts to weaponize justice. But here's the good news, everybody. The good news is the country is mostly with us. There are more Republican attorneys general than Democrats. There are more Republican counties. Darren, I know we're out of time, but if you were an outsider, you woke up from a coma and you just watched the last 24 hours of news. You would think the country was 85 percent Democrat and that there would be maybe three or four Republican attorneys general. And it's the opposite.

Maybe we need to start acting like the country we actually are. Darren, God bless you. Revolver News. Thanks so much. Thank you. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us your thoughts. As always, freedom at Charlie Kirk Dotcom.

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