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April 28, 2022 8:41 pm

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April 28, 2022 8:41 pm

Automotive experts discuss ways to save money on gas, troubleshoot oil pressure issues in Chevrolet trucks, and provide advice on extended warranties, including the importance of understanding what is covered and the potential for maintenance-related issues to void coverage.

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Live from the Car Care Studios, it's the CNC Auto Show with your personal on-air and online automotive service advisors, Aaron Clements and John Ryan Mooney. So climb in, buckle up and enjoy the ride on the CNC Auto Show. Welcome to the CNC Auto Show. I'm Aaron Clements here with our co-host today, Justin Courtney.

Welcome back to the show. Justin's an expert technician and he's also well known for his high level of diagnostic skills. And today, you can take advantage of all that knowledge by asking Justin your automotive questions. And along with that, we'll be talking about ways that you can squeeze more out of a gallon of gas, which is, which is kind of huge right now.

Really is. Now to ask questions and to join the show and have some fun. Or 706-8635-800. And that's on any Saturday morning between 805 and 10 Eastern time. You can listen right here on this station or you can listen on iHeart. You can watch us live on Facebook, whatever you want to do.

You jump right in there and do it. And we will go over to Jeff. Yeah, we still got Jeff on there. Yeah, Jeff was mentioning a few things before we closed out the last hour before we had to pull over and run inside for a quick break. So we're going back to Jeff. Jeff, mention to us the issue that you were having with your, with your Chevrolet pickup. Jeff, we got you now.

You know, I'm beginning to think that the problem with this, with us not hearing you is user error on my part. What was your Chevrolet pickup truck doing again? Your oil pressure?

Oil pressure, yeah. You're cutting in and out. I think we got a problem with the falling line.

It might be because we had that before too. Yeah. Okay. If you can hear me, I'm going to give you, I'm going to tell you what I ran into. Can you hear me, Jeff at all? Yeah, I hear you.

Okay. When I worked for General Motors for a long time and on 04 to 06, it could be coincidental that the change in the sensor makes it work different. It might make it reset the gauge in some way. But those things, that particular generation of General Motors truck had a lot of problems with the gauge driving motors in them. And what they would do is when they would, there are some people who take them apart and replace them is what we do is when we get one, we just send it out and have it rebuilt. And if you've done through three oil pressure sending units, I wonder if unplugging it and plugging it back in makes it reset for a while or something.

But what those things are notorious for. I've unplugged it, turned it on, shut it off, plugged it back in, turned it on, shut it off, it still pegs it. The only thing that makes you go away is changing the unit.

That is so, that is weird. What you might do is, what you're using factory, well, ACDelco, which is factory aftermarket, which is, it's General Motors aftermarket division, so to speak. Yes. But those things to keep in mind, too, do you have any other gauges that are stuck at the bottom or stuck at the top? Like the gas?

Everything else works great. Okay, because that 06 generation was real bad about those. But it's odd to change in the sensor would make it. Yeah. Jeff, are you changing the sensors yourself each time when you do this? Yes, sir.

Okay. Is it a heavy problem to, I realize those are not easy oil sending units to change. I guess what I'm wondering if you was to use a factory GM oil sending unit.

And I have one more question for Jeff, too. When you take that sensor out on the LS generation engine, which I meant to tell you about, we'll get back to that in a minute. On the, underneath that sensor, there's a screen. Did you change that? This one doesn't have one. Okay. I didn't see one in that 06.

You got it. Well, maybe some maybe certain VIN breakpoints, you don't have it. But a lot of times when we do them, we always replace that screen because it can cause a lot of weird stuff to happen to. And I have one other thought that you might do. And this is something you would need to be very careful doing. But let's say that if it was at a situation where the gauge was completely pegged out. If it was possible to get your hand over the wiring harness and wiggle the harness a little bit and have someone else inside the vehicle. And I normally tell them to just barely, barely tap the horn or not or tap on something to let me know that it moved. Have you tried that?

Yep. And one more thing I would do. If you have access to a technician with a scan tool, I would look, I would hook up to it and look and go into the data stream. Every technician, whoever it is, go into the data stream. And one of the PIDs should be oil pressure and see if the computer actually thinks is mirroring what the gauge is saying or within, you know, it's not gonna be exact.

That's a good thought. If it is doing that, then most likely it has to do with the sensor. If it's not doing that, it's something to do with the gauge.

On this side of the sensor. So get a scan tool on it. And yeah, one of the PIDs, one of the PIDs in the data stream will be, should be on a 06 that's new enough, it should, I would think have, you could look and see what the computer's actually reading for oil pressure. Because there's a lot of things that the computer's watching oil pressure for.

If it drops down, it can shut the fuel pump down and, you know, make it, you know, for those fail safes built into some of these. And I'm sure you've done this, but just spray some air all in that connector real well, too, to make sure there's no oily substance in there that could track and cause it to act up. But at least that'll give you some ideas, Jeff.

Yeah, look at that scan tool and see if it's showing the same thing. Thank you for calling, Jeff. Hey, we appreciate you calling very much. Thank you, Jeff. Hope you keep getting better with that lag. Oh, I'm working on it. Thank you very much. I appreciate that.

He's probably doing more than he should. Bye bye. Okay, the number to call is 706-863-5800 or 800-224-9090. And I want to make, oh, we will go to Ron. Hey, Ron, welcome to the CNC Auto Show.

Thank you very much. Since you have a GM tech there, I would like to ask him if he heard anything, whether they're coming back out with the Chevrolet Volt. The Chevy Volt. I do not know. I've been out of the, I still work on General Motors products every day, but I've been out of the inner circle of GM. I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't give you an honest answer on that.

Okay. But I know that it hasn't been in production for several years. That was one of the... No, the Volt. B-O-L-T. B-O-L-T. Yeah.

I don't think they've made it. Oh, the Bolt. Not the Volt. Oh, Bolt.

I don't even, is that a... Yeah. The one they had the battery fire on. I couldn't give you an honest answer on that. They quit production on those last August because of the LG batteries in there were short now. But since then, they have fixed that problem, but all they're doing now is replacing the batteries from the 2017 on up. And they quit production of making that car. But that was a lot more affordable car for around town use. What I was looking at this year, I was hoping to buy two new vehicles, one the Ford Maverick small pickup hybrid, and the other would be the all electric Chevrolet Bolt. B-O-L-T for around town driving with about a 250 mile range. That's pretty good. You drive it all day, you come home, you plug it in your driveway, the next morning it's ready to go again, and it'll cost you between somewhere around $12 for electricity.

That's if you go 250 miles, which I don't know anybody that does that around town. That could be good. I do know that they ceased production on the Ford Maverick. I don't have a clear picture of that. And I don't know if either one of these has to do with the chip shortage or not of the issue that they're having with computer chips. But I will say that I know that as far as I know, I don't know when they're going to be building the Ford Maverick again or being able to sell them. Actually, they're still building the Ford Maverick. They're just not taking orders anymore. They stopped taking orders on February the 22nd for the 22 Ford Maverick because they got so many orders. All of the 22 models are already sold when they build them, and they won't be taking orders for a 23 Maverick until August the 16th. Hey Ron, hold your for a second.

You got some interesting points. We'll be right back. Let's head back down to the car care studio with Airman Clements and John Ryan Mooney. The CNC Auto Show is brought to you in part by Clarios, the world's largest producer of automotive AGM batteries, which are precision engineered to meet the electrical demands we put on today's vehicles. Learn more at autobatteries.com. I'm here with automotive expert Justin Courtney. We're back on the road ready to answer your automotive questions and discuss ways that you can save some money on gas. Give us call 800-224-9090. You can also watch us live on Facebook. You can listen to us on iHeart.

Whatever you want to do, we're ready. We were talking with Ron. Ron, we were talking about the Chevy Bolt, and I'm going to be open with you. I don't have very much information on the Chevy Bolt. I've been out of the Chevy for a while. Now, of course, the Bolt got some information on. I do know that you were talking about the Ford Maverick. You answered a question for me. I didn't know exactly why they... You were interested.

Huh? Was you actually interested in the Maverick? Well, we had planned to buy a Ford Maverick. We had needed another parts truck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I knew they were built on the Escape body frame, and we had just planned to get one, because they sit low to the ground, and we give a lot of people rides in that vehicle.

And I wanted it where somebody could get in and out real easily. Well, they ceased production, so we had to go find another vehicle or looking for another vehicle. So that's on the Maverick, on the Bolt, I don't know.

I don't have any info on that either. We had just one quick thing, though, that I found getting into too many brand new items. I was a little nervous, anyway, on the Maverick. I always look at that first... First year, yeah. Well, the first cowboy that tops that hill is going to get the arrow.

So a little nervous there. And the Bolt proved it with their battery, apparently. Yeah, yeah. Somebody caught an arrow on that one.

Yeah. Well, what happened on the Bolt, the LG batteries, they found that the positive tip on the battery was touching, was too close to the ground. These batteries were built in Mexico, and it shorted it out. And since then, LG, they're going to pay two point something billion dollars to replace all of the Bolt batteries back from when they started building the Bolt in the southern team. And that's why they hadn't started production back on the car yet.

They'll probably have to rename it, because it's got a bad reputation now. But people that have those cars absolutely love them. They don't want to give them up. Wow. But anyway, on the Ford Maverick, it'll go 42 miles on a charge on the hybrid motor alone. And you were talking about a first year of production. Well, like you said, it's the whole chassis and running gear, hybrid motor and all, has been out for several years on the Escape. That is true, yeah. And I read, I see a lot of videos on these, and people, they are so excited about them. And they think it's the best thing that's come out in a long time, and all the 22s already sold. Wow.

You can't even order one. Well, Ron, you have updated us today. And we appreciate that.

That's what the show's all about. And you can find a lot of information. Uh-huh. Well, Ron, we really do appreciate you calling and sharing some of that information. We appreciate it. Thank you, sir.

All right. The number to call, 800-224-9090. Want to say thank you again to Ron. And we really do enjoy that. When somebody calls in, they've done some research, they got some information. Give us the information, yep. Sharing it with the team.

We love that. Okay, we will go over to, make sure we get this right, we'll go over to Jim. Jim, welcome to the CNC Auto Show.

What can we help you with? I believe it's Tim, Aaron. Oh, is that Tim? That's Tim. Well, I told our producer, Mason, to expand that screen a little bit. He has not done it.

And I know he can figure out a way to do that. Watch it be Jim. Is it Tim? Hey, Tim, welcome to the CNC Auto Show. Thank you, Aaron and Justin. Aaron, do you have your glasses on?

That might help. Well, you're very lucky that Justin was here. If he wasn't, we would have to go down to wherever you go and have your name changed to Jim.

And that would have been very time consuming. Only because I'm sitting closer to the screen. He corrected it.

But, yes, sir, what can we help you with? Well, okay, I've got a 2003 Sonoma small truck and my daughter's driving it. She called me late last night and said the wipers are not working quite right.

It was intermittent and just doing things that it wasn't responding to the regular or high speed. Did you say Sonoma? Sonoma, a GMC Sonoma?

Yes. On an S10 chassis? Like a Chevy S10 type? Yeah, a small Chevy pickup. Okay.

Yeah, small. I've seen this lots of times. Exactly what you're saying on that truck.

On your wiper motor. Go ahead. Okay.

Well, I did a little research and I saw something about a circuit board that needs to be replaced. Is that what you're going to say? They call it a pulse board. But, yes, yeah.

Say that again? They call it a pulse board. But, yes, that's the long and the short of it.

It is a circuit board. And when they go out, sometimes the wipers won't turn on. They won't turn off.

You know, you'll be sitting in the driveway and your wipers will just keep going, stuff like that. Right. So is that something I can change out? It is. It's... Hold on just one second. We might have to pull over for a sec. I'm going to give it to Aaron. Yeah, we're going to pull over. We're going to pull over very quickly. We'll be right back. And after that, Justin will give you a few tips on how to replace that part. Be right back. It's time for more Good Stuff with Aaron Clements and John Ryan Mooney.

We are back, and thank you for waiting. I'm here with automotive expert Justin Courtney, and we are back on the road ready to answer your automotive questions and discuss ways that you can save some fuel. And of course, right now, fuel is money. Big money. It really, really is a lot of it.

Big money. Yeah. And so give us a call.

800-224-9090. You can also watch us live on Facebook, listen on iHeart, send us a message at aaron.ccautoshow.com. We were talking with Tim. We were. We were talking. See, I got it right that time, Tim. We were talking to him about his windshield wipers. Yeah, we were talking to Tim and talking about the Sonoma truck. Sonoma truck, yeah. And I think Justin mentioned that he may have some details on that board that you were talking about.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Tim, it's been a while since I've seen one, but I've replaced probably 100 of those things over the years. When you look back at your firewall, we open your hood and look back, you see your windshield wiper motor there.

There's a black surface that's facing you, and there's three little screws in it. They're either Allen or Torx. I'm not sure. I think those were Torx bits. I think they were.

They were like a T-15 or a T-20 or something. Something like that, if I remember right. And you unplug your connector from it, and when you take those little screws out, that thing just pulls out, and there's male and female spade connectors in there that connect themselves back together as you slide it in. It slides into grooves.

It's really simple. You probably find a YouTube video on it if you want to. You can go down to O'Reilly or Advance and Dorman. There's an aftermarket outfit called Dorman that makes these things. They're not very expensive. I wouldn't imagine it being too much. Yeah.

I don't think they're various, but I'd hate to say how much, because I don't really know for sure. It's been a while since I bought one, but they probably have it in stock. Go down there. You can probably Google it. Go down to Dorman's website and put in your year-making model and windshield wiper pulse board.

You don't typically have to replace the whole wiper motor. And that's at DormanProducts.com. Just go there, or you can go to O'Reilly.

Well O'Reilly will be able to sell the Dorman products. Yeah, go to O'Reilly and get the parts. And that should take care of it. It's really, really common on that generation of vehicle.

Change lots and lots and lots of them. Let me ask you, if you're facing the engine from the outside, is it off to the right or to the left? Where is it? I wanted to say it was close to the center on those S-10s. A little closer to the driver's side, but a little closer to the center. Yeah, at the base of the windshield there, you'll see the windshield wiper motor. And the windshield wiper motor is kind of, yeah, it should be right there in your face.

And if you do purchase the part, I would recommend while you're there, if you don't have those Torx bits, go ahead and get a set of those, because you will end up needing them. You don't want to drive all the way home and then not have the right setting. Exactly. Yeah. Because it's not, it is kind of those little star Torx, little star-shaped, little bitty screw. I'm sorry, what do you call those?

Torx, T-O-R-X. And you can buy a little set of them for 10 bucks. Yeah, just snap a picture of one on your truck, unless you're driving your truck there.

If you drive your truck there to get the part, then just go inside and say, hey, I want one that will fit this, or you may decide to get a little set of them. And those are not really expensive either. No, 10 bucks or something, maybe, I don't know. Exactly. Okay. That should take care of that.

It's really, really common. Thank you very much. Yes, sir. Thank you. Hey, Tim, great call. Thank you. Number to call, 800-224-9090. You give us a call, ask your question. Justin, you know, I didn't even lay a tech tip quiz on the table this time, did I?

But that's okay. I don't think so. We'll use it next week because we got Travis on the line and we're going to go over and talk to Travis. Hey, Travis, what can we help you with today? Are you there, Travis? Yes. There he is. All right. We got you. Sorry about the wait. What can we do for you?

Travis on the line makes it hard to hear. The question that I have is concerning extended warranty. Uh-huh. Yes, sir. Okay. I think I got you now. Okay. Yeah.

We got you. Yeah, we can hear you, Travis. Okay.

So, what I've got is I've been looking... Travis, you faded out on us or, of course, you're coming and going. Try one more time. I think... Okay. Oh, there it is. Yeah.

We got you now, Travis. Okay. My question is about extended warranty.

We've been looking at a warranty company. Okay. All right. Yeah.

We must have missed half of what you're saying. I don't know if we're having phone calls on this end or if we've had several, but mention your concern about your extended warranty one more time, and let's try to grab it this time. Okay.

The extended warranty that we're looking at is Endurance, the company. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think we're losing you. Travis... I think Travis is going in and out on us. Yeah.

I think we're losing you. If you do give us a call back, in the meantime, we'll be saying a few words about extended warranties. Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

And that way, we'll do all we can, and maybe if he calls back, we can... We deal with those every day. Some of the things I always like to mention on extended warranty, some of them can be very good. Very good. Some of them not so much.

Yeah. We take extended warranties, and we enjoy working on extended warranties for, I would say, even 90% of the warranty companies. We call them, let them know what's wrong. One of the things that we've run into on extended warranties, though, is sometimes people think that you're going to have a problem with your vehicle, and almost anything that happens to it from then on is going to be covered, and that's definitely not the case, and at least 90% of the time, that's not the case. Most warranty companies are a breakdown warranty. If you have a part that breaks, for instance, the rear end brakes, transmission brakes, the air conditioner actually breaks, if they're mentioned in the warranty, they're most likely covered. But if it's maintenance, let's say you need an evacuating service, an air conditioning service, you need brakes, you need belts and hoses, those normal wear and tear items are not covered, and the other thing that you can run into is the time that the vehicle will be worked on in some cases can take longer.

Because of the weight. Yeah. That service advisor. The administration side of it. Exactly. You have that administration side, just like you're saying. That service advisor's actually got two customers, and you and that other, yeah, exactly.

They're talking back and forth. And then he's got a technician in one of his ears trying to... Yeah, saying, hey, this is what's there. So the time that it takes to repair the vehicle can be longer, not all the time, but you just have to just keep that in mind that it may not necessarily be the shop's fault or the service advisor's fault, that something's taken a little bit longer on the vehicle, and also everything may not be covered. They may pay for part of the repair and not all of the repair. And you may have a deductible. And a deductible.

Very good point. What's that? The best advice, if somebody, anybody, Travis, if you're still listening, anybody who's considering looking at an extended warranty, be mindful of the ones that really push the ads. They might be okay, but get online and read reviews. Look at the Better Business Bureau, because there are some of them that are fantastic. We deal with some that are very good. Yes, we do.

And they actually care about their customers, and they want to get the car fixed as quick as they can. There are others that they just deny everything, some of them. There are a few.

Now, again, this is kind of rare, but there's a few that you'll call and they say, oh, I'm sorry, it's Thursday, it's after two. It's not covered. Oh, that's not covered.

They didn't buy that tier level, whatever. Just be careful with your shopping and be sure what you get. Now, we have Travis on the line.

That might be him that we was... Okay. Travis, were you the gentleman we were talking to about extended warranties? Yes, sir.

Okay. Now, we've mentioned a few words about extended warranties. Did any of that cover some of the stuff you were looking for?

A lot of it did. The one question I had was concerning a particular company, I don't know if you want me to mention the name, but... I don't mind. You can say anything. We were looking into it, and it did have very good reviews.

It had the best reviews of all the ones that we were looking at. But my question was, as a repair facility, how much trouble do you usually have to get them to actually cover the repair? Travis, you're not gonna believe this, but we will have to pull over to the road just for a little bit, and we will be right back, and we will be ready to... We will talk to you.

Yeah, we'll be ready to answer that question. Welcome back to more of the CNC Auto Show with Aaron Clements and John Ryan Mooney. The CNC Auto Show is brought to you in part by Clarios, the world's largest producer of automotive AGM batteries, which are precision engineered to meet the electrical demands we put on today's vehicles. Learn more at autobatteries.com.

And the number to call is 800-224-9090. We were talking with Travis. Travis, welcome back into the car we're riding in, and we were talking about your extended warranties. I wanted to take that question because that does give us a great opportunity to let people know about the good parts and the bad parts of extended warranties. And while we were on the break, I was talking to Justin, and one of the things I mentioned that many times it's not necessarily the warranty, but sometimes it's the way it was sold. Somebody's saying, yeah, everything's covered, you never have to worry about car repairs again. And then somebody's got that in their mind, and then when the poor service advisor has to say, no, I'm sorry that that part of it's not covered, or that's not covered, or they'll pay this amount but won't pay that amount. And there'll be different levels of, I'm sorry, Aaron, there'll be different levels of coverage you can buy. Like you can buy the powertrain, and then you can get powertrain plus, and then you can get like... No, I think your term there, know what you're buying, is important. Know what you're buying, because the salesman's going to tell you, or salesperson is going to tell you whatever you want to hear to get you to close the deal.

So just make sure you read it. Some of them are great. Yeah, they are. We've run into some very good ones. And Travis, you were mentioning some things about the one you were looking at.

What was that again? We were looking at one that had some very high ratings from what we researched online. The ratings were pretty high. But the cost is pretty extensive. I would want to get something that would cover electrical and drivetrain and pretty much everything in the vehicle. But my main question is, as a repair shop, which you've pretty much answered so far, but is how much trouble does the owner of the vehicle usually have with getting the warranty company to actually pay for the service that's provided? Well, the good part, well, I guess it's good, it's good for you, is that like, say you bring it to a licensed certified facility, the service advisor at that facility is the one who gets to deal with it. You know, his technician, it is, it really is, it's providing it's covered. If it's not covered, then obviously, then you're going to be dealing with it. But if it is covered, him and his technician are going to work it out, they're going to come up with an estimate, they're going to present it to that company, the company is going to say yay or nay, if you have a deductible or not.

And then the technician, they start working on it straight away. And what type of vehicle do you have, Travis? I have an 08 Suburban.

Okay. Those are pretty low maintenance. Here's one of some of the things I've seen. If there's a vehicle out there that has been known for some issues, which there are some things that can pop up on that one, it can be, can be pretty large having to do. I'm not sure if that one had some of the lifter issues or not.

But 08 was early DoD, so yeah, it did help. But for instance, some models had some problems with lifters and things like that. A person could purchase a policy like that and have a major engine issue and, and possibly even get out with just a deductible.

Right, $100 or $200 when it's actually a $2,000 bill. Yeah. It can be. It can come out very easily.

So things like that, you could come out very well. Now as a general rule, what I find is to people who take really good care of their cars and perform the maintenance, unless they're driving something that's known to have a fair amount of issues, they're less likely to get the benefits of that warranty because the oil changes are not covered anyway. The coolant exchanges are not covered anyway. In my opinion, if you've got a vehicle that's known for, I guess the term, good bones, sure.

And what's a suburban is technically just a Chevy truck and they're pretty good. Exactly. Then many times you can take that same amount of money and invest that in the maintenance on the vehicle to make sure that all of the maintenance is done and it's very unlikely that you're going to have a problem.

Just like when I go buy a computer now, instead of when I go buy one, I've already done my research. I'm going to buy a computer that that's known to last a long time. When they asked me about extended warranty, I say no, because I know there's a very high likelihood that I'm not going to have a problem with it. Now, if there's a person that, um, that would, it would be catastrophic if they had a three, four or $5,000 bill was to happen to pop up by small chance.

And it would be catastrophic for them for that to happen. Then I would probably say, yes, a warranty might be a good idea. Do exactly what you're doing and do the shopping. Or if they just, it makes them sleep better at night to have a warranty to where most things are covered. I would do that too.

Cause again, there are some good ones out there. But I would be doing exactly what you're doing, all the research, weighing it out, laying that on the table and, uh, have a family meeting and say, this is what we're going, this is what we're going to decide on doing right here. Have you had any major instances with your vehicle? Is there a reason why you're, is there something you're worried about with this car?

That has got you. Actually, we just purchased, we just purchased this vehicle and I have read about the lifter problems. Um, when I was considering is getting a, um, a device that plugs into the OVD port that kind of bypasses that I don't really like when it goes down into V4 mode and things like that. And, uh, from what I researched, it seems to be something that just basically it doesn't change the computer. It just puts it into V8 mode all the time. Yeah. It tricks the computer.

Is that something? I've never done it. I've talked to customers and stuff who've done it and they seem to be okay with it.

I haven't heard anything. I haven't heard anything detrimental about it or anything. Well, Travis, I'm going to do some research on that myself because that's a, it used to be to make them know where they would stay in the eight cylinder mode. It was a lot more involved than just plugging something in so that that is an option and that is something to think about. I will say though that I would say that I would look at it more like at least 80% of the time when somebody had a issue with the lifters, uh, they were trying to extend their oil changes up to, uh, 7,000, 8,000, uh, or not change it on a regular basis, not changing their coolant when they should, um, it, it, it had more to do with maintenance items than anything else that a lot of folks don't know that those lifters, those DOD lifters work off oil pressure.

Yeah. And clean oil is good oil. And when somebody thinks that they're doing good, trying to extend their change, oil change interval from five, I'm good with 5,000, but unless you have some type of European cars or some vehicle that, uh, you can extend their warranties, I mean, extend the oil change interval a long time, keeping it right on that 5,000 miles and keeping your coolant exchange like Ford trucks, big issue that they have is coolant issues. Well, if you don't change the coolant electrolysis on it, yes.

On a regular basis, you're gonna have a lot of problems with them. So I would, I would weigh those two out either way. I would recommend spending the money on maintenance, but also look at it closely and say, do I feel like I would get my, uh, a return on my investment, uh, or would I be ahead to lay this money to the side as if I did it.

And if something does come up, it would be there in order to pay for the repair that needs to be done. How many, real quick, how many miles are on this suburban? Just under 160 is 159,000. That's not a lot.

Uh, that's up there a little bit, but we've seen those Chevy's with a lot more than that. And last quick question, more because I'm curious, cause we out of time. We got about a minute. Yeah. We'll get, well, that or less we, um, with the, uh, with that, how much is the warranty?

The one over $4,000. Okay. So for one time purchase, you can get it on a monthly plan. Yeah.

And all of the month, I would definitely weigh that out because you can buy a lot of maintenance and you can go a long way toward a lot of your repairs that might come up for that amount of money. Uh, now of course, wait, do what you're doing. Weigh it out. Okay.

Great question, Travis. Thank you very much for that call. We're sticking in with us.

Yeah. I thought that was great. We're out of gas. Uh, we will pull over for now. Uh, producer, Mason Rogers, uh, Justin, great, great time. We'll see you next week on the CNC auto show.

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