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Kevin Holden shares his experience calling Brewers and Packers games in Spanish on Telemundo and CBS 58, discussing his language learning journey, the challenges of broadcasting in a foreign language, and the unique aspects of Spanish language and culture.

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I am Bart Winkler. Kevin Holden is with me today. We're going to reunite after our many years as, I don't know, you're my fill-in guy. As the utility player on the on the old team? The old ball club, Kevin used to be a part of it in a role. Got sent down to AAA, came back up for some stints, and he was always there when we needed him.

But then what we would do is, you know, you're like one of those pitchers that we would, we knew we were sending you back down, so we'd, you know, make you throw 40 pitches across two innings and then send you back down. I saw you in Bill's house. Oh, dude.

Okay. So that was that was crazy, right? It was just a two day thing. But yeah, there I was back. You know, there was no, you know, video aspect to it. Just my, you know, the little pictures for Facebook, but I'm completely alone in there, like completely, you know, that the other people involved in making that show happen are not there. So it's just me.

So there's, you know, you're talking or whatever and you go for eight or 10 minutes and then you say, all right, we'll be back and you hit the little button and you're just in silence. Like, just eerie nothingness, you know? It was weird. It's weird being at the building.

Yeah. A lot of people there, is there? Nobody. Nobody's here.

And then, like, all of these doors have windows at the Odyssey building that I always feel like someone's going to, every night I feel like I'm going to get, someone's going to be here to hurt me. Someone who remembers your takes on Jeff Janus and is going to make you pay. Yeah. Now's the time to strike.

I shouldn't advertise that it's so easy to do that, but such is life. Kevin Holden's got a big day. That's why we wanted to talk to, we, that's why I wanted to talk to him today.

On Sunday, August the, I believe it would be the 18th. Kevin Holden for a long time has been calling Brewers Sunday home games on Telemundo, your local neighborhood Telemundo station. He also has been calling the Packers games on your Telemundo station affiliated with of course where he's from CBS 58.

There is a perfect storm and maybe they scheduled it for you. Quick aside, I had a guy tonight call. He said he's a diehard Arizona Rattlers indoor Football League fan.

And he wants. He had to get married and he was worried that it was going to be on a day where the Arizona Rattlers played at home because he has never missed a game in 30 years. So he called the legal office and said don't schedule a game on. And then they didn't. They listened to him.

Ah, oh my god, that's fantastic. At least that's the story he told me that he got him to basically avoid a date so he could go get married. Yeah, that's what he told me. But you are going to be doing the Brewer game and the Packer game.

Obviously the Packer games in Denver so I don't think you can get from AmFam to Denver but theater of the mind, but you're doing two games in one day and you're doing it in a second language in Spanish. Good luck, and you must be. You must be more excited. Yeah, that's too that's a direct translation. You've, you've heard us on the broadcast say that like when they hit a homer they're like, we're all really excited.

Yeah, do it. Well, first of all, we talked about how bizarro world it is anyway just to be doing that you know what I mean just to be calling in a different language but then when they, when they laid up the schedule. The preseason schedule and I saw Sunday game I thought, Okay, now there's no way that they doubled this up and they absolutely did they have. Yeah, it's, it's a Brewers guardians on Sunday at one and then Packers Broncos in Denver on Sunday at seven and yes, we, we were trying to find a jet, you know, or some sort of teleportation device or something that's going to get us from AmFam to mile high but I think instead we're going to opt for the second game and the plus studios of CBS 58 slash Telemundo Wisconsin.

Well, you can't have it all I mean you can't have it all. But the good thing about that is that that's actually it's one of my favorite parts of doing the Packers preseason games. Every year you have new employees right and some of them don't know these things are going on they you know they have no idea that there's a broadcast on Telemundo. And so when the first touchdown happens and we're screaming and yelling like people come running into the room. What's going on in here. Are you, you know you we tossed a break at the start of halftime. And, and I walk like, I don't know, 15 steps from the studio to my desk.

Yeah, it's out of my desk and like take you know a little sip of water and sip of the Stanley Cup and, you know, everybody's like, what's going on I'm like, oh no. Do you need like, I mean your game be done at for you the pack game at seven I mean there's pre and post but do you. You don't need to like, I mean it's just like, you don't need to be. Oh, I gotta get in my football shape if I wake up I gotta be in football mind, or is it just the prospect of like, it's two games that we when we call the when we call these high school games like if you're doing one game. That's great. But there were days, there were days that McGivern and I would do three. And even I think back to like when I would ref soccer games and you do like eight in the day. All I'm ever thinking about is that eighth game all I'm ever thinking about like during the game, I can't.

You're gonna have to like not think about that. Yeah, that's because, because you're going to want to conserve right like you, you, you have enough energy for eight I'm trying to come up with enough energy to fill to, you know, to Major League Games and it's, I mean it is still a foreign language so it's still like. So, honestly, if you're being totally honest about it Packers preseason is the, the, the toughest test that that I have in that language because. So here's the thing, third or fourth quarter of a preseason game most people when they're watching and they're looking out there and grant do both is catching passes and, you know, guys from the fifth string of the depth charter out there, you can you can kind of like hazy up your mind you don't I mean you have to watch it. But if you're calling the game you have to be locked in right like I have to know.

Tell people about grant do bows right I have to tell people like you know where he's from and what his story is. And then you have to do that in a foreign language, and it's. That's the time like third fourth quarter of games where you have to like dig for this energy right you have to kind of go okay, don't. Don't just sort of drift away here you got to stay focused that's. I think that's the biggest thing you know what I'd love to do is just take like a 30 minute nap like just come straight home. I live close to work so come straight home from from the ballpark. Say it like for 15 or something. And then just just old man it up for about 30 minutes just just catch the Z's and then get up at 445 and act like it's a new day, you know, that's not a bad strategy. And then what will happen is the burger game will be a long one. 17 innings.

Like we'll have to run from from the ballpark back like they'll have the studio set up will will be running in 10 minutes there. Oh my goodness. When did you like learn Spanish. I had a really good high school teacher like a really good high school teacher, and it's, it's funny because there was never any point ever, even high school or college where I was like, Yeah, you know I'm gonna, I'm going to broadcast games in this language you know like I took classes in high school I was pretty good at it and, you know, so I'll go to college, make it a minor you know and, yeah, that then that happened and then I wanted to be van Wilder right I didn't want to leave. I just was ready to graduate and I wasn't ready to go so I'm like, well what if I stayed another year and change and made it a double major, you know, and it was kind of humorous at the time because I'm like, you majored in it.

Yeah, yeah I've got I've got a broadcast major and a Spanish major. I didn't know that. Yeah, and I mean it was, it really wasn't anything other than like, it was almost laughable right like the, you know, I can the statute of limitations is expired I can say it right. I did. There was there was a few things that I was interested in in college, it wasn't Spanish necessarily. Oh you dirty dog. I, you know, dirty dog, Athens, Georgia, you know, there's there's stuff going on and I was young and I didn't want to go into the real world yet so I just made it a double major and I joked like well this diplomas going right in the drawer.

And, you know, then all these years later, they, when I got the the interview for the job that the guy you know the news director here at the time said, Yeah, see you speak Spanish you know we have a Telemundo station here I'm like really and he goes Hey, can I get just a minute Can you do like a minute on the air, you know, I was working at a station in Florida. So, dude, I put together the, it was terrible. And I was literally just dreading that callback because I was going to be like he's going to pick this phone up and go, you fraud, what did you pick it up and I pick it up and I call him he goes, Yeah, I don't understand a word you said satisfied. Wow. Yeah, like what is he gonna say. Yeah. Anybody that any of your bosses know do they even know you're still steward, they could think you're just faking it.

Well, this is kind of funny that since we're just we're just spilling, spilling tea right. A couple of years ago, we had a new manager at a different, you know you have different departments in your building. Yeah, so we had a new manager of a department who saw me doing a Facebook Live with Miguel Ramirez the anchor Telemundo we were something Packers did it happen and he wanted to do a real fast Facebook Live so we just did is a couple minutes, whatever. And, and she sent an email out to like the whole station, and it was the title of the email was, did you know Kevin speak Spanish. Everyone's like yep. See, see, see baseball. So, yeah, it's still it still takes people by surprise, I guess, you know, I don't know we don't talk much about it you know you just do your, your work or whatever so I guess.

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They used to have us close. Will you watch some games in Spanish sometimes? Oh yeah, for sure. Especially like at the start of a baseball season because what will happen is I'll talk Spanish a whole bunch here in August because of the overlap, right?

The Packers and Brewers overlap. And then the Brewers seasonal end and I'll get rusty like I'll do a few things for the newscast, but not a ton, right? And so by the time we get to March, I always get scared. Like what if I don't remember this, you know?

Yeah. What if eventually I get old enough that it's just going to, you know, so I'll grab like three or four games, you know, obviously that the Yankees have won the Dodgers have won the Diamondbacks Marlins and you know, you can just it's just like anything else. You can just go watch a random game and I can just hear it, you know, just they kind of bring it back.

But the two things that that bring that Spanish to the sort of like the things that make it work for me, the things that make it where I can speak the language are two things. One of them I can't do at the job, which is to, you know, like drinking beer. Like if you say anything else, you get a couple of beers and it's better.

Oh, much like. Oh, yeah, the you're less afraid to mess up. It's just like anything else, right?

That inhibition goes away. And then the other one's coffee. And so that's how it works is that like American Family feel they joke on Sundays because I'm just like emptying out that coffee there, that coffee dispenser in the in the room.

And I'm in there like shaking it, trying to get the last couple drops out on a Sunday. They're like, yep, doing Spanish today. Man, my kid.

Five. He's he went to daycare to Spanish immersion daycare. Oh, really? And he's going to graduate here in a couple of weeks and then go to real school. But we it's one of my the parents and other parents like, have you talked to your kid about the teachers at the new school?

What do you mean? They're they speak in English. Your kid is used these things. They speak to him in Spanish all day. Now, he doesn't come home and like speak Spanish.

He might sing some songs. But he knows he can hear and react in Spanish at age five. And so I can you tutor him? Oh, sure. Yeah. If you if you want me to teach him, you know, caught stealing and, you know, hit and run and, you know, I could I could teach him all the baseball. Because I got to find a way he's got to like.

I can't have him lose that. No, especially with those sponge brains, right? They pick it up at that age, right?

Like it's so much easier. Like me, I have I have restarted and restopped Duolingo more times. I just got an email. I honestly just got an email from Duolingo that was like, congratulations, you've been with us for 13 years. And I'm like, the hell if I have. Oh, I may have downloaded you 13 years ago. I've probably done it a total of 13 days.

I'm still on like Manzana and Lapon for bread. And that's not any further than that section. You can order a snack. Yeah, it's it's wild. Yeah. Like I this is a weird like offshoot of this. But, you know, talking about like the language capacity and age and so on.

My aunt got me for I think I was like five or six and she she bought me French like it was it was a French tutoring thing. Now, this is how old I am. There were records. Wow.

That's so that, you know, there's there's old man talking right there. But but they were records. Right. And so I I can remember like these lessons, like the French didn't stick with me, but the things they were saying did. Right.

Like I can still hear the voices in that thing. And I don't know if that like paved the way a French somehow paved the way for Spanish or whatever. But I just kind of funny to me that, you know, I would I would think that she was trying to, you know, further my education or whatever. But then I also wonder if she like, you know, just one day was just like, oh, I got to get him a birthday present.

Crap, let's find something. He speaks Spanish, French close enough. Now, maybe she's got confused. Didn't remember which one you could speak. Well, so and for me, like I said, I didn't speak a word of it till 10th grade.

Not a word. And so then I got in a in a program in Tennessee. So we had we lived in Georgia growing up and then we moved to Memphis, Tennessee, very briefly.

My dad got a job in Memphis for like eight months. And and I started in the Tennessee program. And I don't know if you know this, but they have the the the states are different in how they teach the language. So in Georgia, it was about conversation.

It was about, you know, speaking like, you know, getting the right accent, speaking the words. Tennessee was just vocabulary. Like the first six months that I knew Spanish, they were just cramming vocabulary down my throat.

This word, this word, this word, this word. So when we moved back with my dad, that job didn't work out of Memphis and we moved back to Atlanta. And I got into Spanish one class in high school there. I knew all this vocabulary that nobody else knew because they their curriculum was different. They didn't teach it that way. And so they thought I was smart. I just didn't teach him.

I didn't tell him otherwise. So many people that like come to America say they learn it from watching TV, English. From watching TV, I don't. But when I listen to Spanish, like sometimes, you know, in the World Cup or whatever, I'll throw a game on and I'm not picking up anything. I can't understand a word.

Yeah. In English, maybe it's more like. Chunky kind of word you say it's it. So it's the the there in English, there are three levels.

This is what we were taught. There are three levels of inflection in English in a standard sentence like there. You know, I mean, there's three three levels of how hard you hit like a syllable. And in Spanish, there are only two. So basically, you either you know, it's either a syllable or it's one with that accent on it. Right. So that's all you have.

So so it's compressed already then. And in Spanish, you express excitement instead of raising your voice. You express it by talking faster. That's that's the Spanish term for like how you express like when something exciting. Which is why, you know, the words leading up to a goal in soccer are fantastic. Right.

Because they're like two thousand miles an hour. And then. And but it is it's it's almost impossible, like the English speaking ears.

It's it has all kinds of trouble processing. I still like have that problem. Like I'll watch we'll watch Valencia. We like Valencia.

My wife and I do Spanish soccer team and we'll watch them. And and especially when they get going, I'm like, oh, they're a little ahead of me here. Driving too fast on this highway for me. Oh, it's. But yeah, totally wild, man, that it's two very different styles of language, different approaches. But it's and it's wild to, like I said, to switch back and forth is kind of a crazy thing, but it's going to happen for a whole bunch of hours Sunday.

I've been calling the Packer game at night. You know, it's fun and getting experience, but I just think you doing the repeated Sunday Brewers like. And it's a nice like.

You know, we get in these jobs and it's a dream job. But then just like with like. I don't know, you mentioned beer before, just like with beer. It's like, you know, when when you're younger, two beers will do the trick.

When you're older, it might be 12 beers. It's still like to still on Sundays be able to walk into a big league ballpark and do real life play by play. I just think that's got to be like a nice pep in your step. It's it's it's one of those things where especially like early on a year, the first two or three games when we step in there, that dream come true thing is still it still happens, right? You sit down and it's me and it's Jaime, the color guy and Bronco, the producer, there's an engineer in the back and all the equipment is set up. And you're, you know, a couple of minutes to air and you're just sitting there looking out at the ballpark and you're like, this is what I do today. I get to I get I would have done this for zero dollars over in the stands. You know what I mean?

I would have like in English, you know, we would have talked about the game all day anyway. So we get to do it. It just we just toss to commercials after he'd have it in, you know, and and all the the research that's there and available. And you get this momentum and it's it's it's pretty wild. Like August is my favorite time for the Spanish stuff because of both things going on this past week. The Packers preseason opener was a Saturday night and then the Brewers were Sunday. So so I had two games, not the same day, but Saturday night, Sunday, early afternoon. And when we started Sunday early afternoon on the Brewers broadcast, man, it was going right, because your brain was recently going through that. So as soon as it went back to it, I like highly kind of looked at me like, wow, somebody, somebody had their their Wheaties today, you know, because I came in just like talking all kinds of all kinds of craziness, you know, about the Brewers and the win streak that they had and all the things that they're trying to chase down or whatever. And I was like, look, we're in pregame, dude.

Don't you know, don't don't shoot everything. You can you get to a place where when you're talking Spanish, you're not thinking of what you're saying in English. In the games, it'll happen. It'll happen in the games. It's you know, you got two guys side by side, like, you know, me and Jaime, let's say in the pregame and he'll if he's saying something and you want to respond to it. Right.

You want to play off him. I almost always happens in English first in my mind and I have to like take it and then unravel it right into Spanish. But during the during the game, like when when there's action and you're describing the action, it's there's there's nothing, you know, more like you're locked into this one thing that you're doing. That's when it happens. That's when the flow happens, actually, in that language.

There's no there's no English, I think, when we're calling games unless I get tripped up on a word, which happens. And, you know, wasn't that a good question by me? That was. Yeah. You like you got you got in here a little bit. But it's it's true, right? Like you you do it enough and you you start thinking that way.

But, you know, the coffee starts wearing off, then it gets bad. Well, the other thing that I remember you saying is like, yeah, I learned Spanish. I can speak Spanish, but then I have to learn like baseball terminology, like turn to her, you know, just any kind of stuff like that.

And then that's like a whole nother subsection you're bringing on. So I was I was just looking over over here, I was wondering if I still had the flashcard. So the the story goes that I started here at CBS 58 in like September of 2009. And I don't know, a month in or a couple months in, I did a little something for Telemundo, just like a one minute sports thing that was taped.

It was nothing. And the news director came in at that time and he said, you know, we do these Brewers games in Spanish. I'm like, you what now? He's like, yeah, we do this. You want to do it? And I'm like, OK, look, it's November or whatever it is. And today there is zero chance that I would have the terminology down, but I will guarantee you by April I will have it. So I made like 200 note cards with, you know, on one side double play and the other side dolomatanza, you know, like doing the whole the whole thing.

And every day, all winter I go through the flash. How deep do you go? Do you do like can of corn and stuff like that? Oh, yeah. Because there's, you know, ducks on the pond, ducks on the pond.

Because you know how it is there. Those are idiomatic expressions and they have them in in Spanish, too. But they usually are they're different, right? Like they're the words are different because that, you know, that really doesn't have like the word ducks on the pond. You know, literally it doesn't have much meaning. But but we know what it means. Right. Like in Spanish that, you know, in English, we have something that costs an arm and a leg.

Right. The Spanish version of that is that something that costs an eye of the face. That's their version of that phrase. OK, but so if you said arm and leg in Spanish, it wouldn't make any sense. Yeah, they wouldn't know what that means.

They're like, what is that about? But if I said, oh, yeah, that's crazy. That cost an eye of the face. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, like that's it hits home. So you have to it's not word for word translation.

Sometimes you have to you have to play with the phraseology a little bit. No cards. Yeah, whatever. Well, I'll tell you what, I think I'm taking my kid to that game on Sunday.

Yes. And so then I'm going to tape the game on Telemundo and we'll come back and watch it. And maybe we'll watch Packard's Telemundo, too, and see if he can pick up on it.

That'd be that'd be fantastic. Well, and you have like to me that the thing for English speakers and a ton of the people that watch us are English speakers. Right. Like it's the novelty of it. Plus the fact that it's available over the air.

You know, you don't have to have like four apps and you don't have to watch Bali freeze up every 13 seconds. You know, it's kind of nice. I think that's the meanest thing I've ever heard you say. Is it true, though?

I don't think I've ever heard you say anything remotely mean. But that's I mean, you know, that's dealing with that all through the years, right. Cutting highlights like, oh, look, it froze in the middle of the play.

And then the next thing you see is a dude standing on first. Like it's but that, you know, we have a lot of English speakers that that watch. And that's, you know, that's that's the novelty of that that whole thing. I was going somewhere with that and I've lost it now.

No, it's fine. I was a good English people. English speakers watch the games. They do. We get a lot of like people that don't have cable or whatever. They just that's that's what they do.

So there's you know, it's a different kind of audience, right? Like there's a bar owner around the corner from me here who just is infatuated with this whole Spanish thing. Right.

And he keeps telling me, Holden, you're going to you'll be the Spanish voice of the Dodgers. I'm like, OK, look, there's there's there's a couple of things here. Yeah.

Just a couple. Yeah. Hey, reach for the stars. I mean, it's I you know, I appreciate the support. He's you know, he's he's trying to be nice.

But the Spanish voice of the dive, it'd be like somebody saying, you know, after you call those high school games, you should go take Vince Scully's job. Yeah, sure. I'll go do that. Yeah. Hey, Bart, good job.

Call it catamaran Lutheran. You want to do the AFC divisional round? Yeah, I do. But I can't.

You know, the guys that think that, you know, Buck and Aikman are terrible. They just go take their place, you know, like walk into a booth and open the door. All right, I'm here. Let's do it again.

Freeze and then die. Well, mucho gracias. Very excited for the games on Sunday. Very excited about the day for you. And just wanted to also catch up and say hi and miss you.

Man, I miss you too, Bart. We you know, obviously our schedules kind of put us together for for a couple of years and we had a blast. We had to have a chance to do that. We got to get together. Well, I dog Shay last time he wanted me to come out, so next time I'll come out.

Oh, well, she earned every bit of it. Was he was he whistling a fight song of a school? Because that's that's his thing after a couple of pops. Tim Shay will text me to come out on like a Friday. And he makes me say no to him seven times. Come out. I can't tonight, but I really want to. But just do it, please. For me, I'll buy you a drink.

I'll buy you two drinks. I need you here. Jesus, Tim. Yeah, he's he's desperate. It's his day jobs getting to him, isn't it? Those are some hours, man. Those are some hours, 30 in the morning. And you know how it is, because we're second to at least I'm a second shifter.

So I'm up late enough that a lot of times I'll text him when he first gets to work and he doesn't like that too much. Well, good to see you, buddy. Good to see you too, Bart. What a blast, man. This is like old times for the people that know we recorded this at 140 in the morning.

Yep. It's just primetime. I am I am a vampire without a doubt. I am a creature of the night.

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25% off with the promo code Bart at happyplacehemp.com. Since we're sort of talking tangentially the Brewers, I do want to quickly fill out this survey. The Brewers did a fan survey. I always find it's a nice radio bit to fill out surveys live on air. I never get reaction to it because I don't think it is. I think it is something that I like to do.

I used to do stuff like this all the time on 1250. But I don't know, it seemed like, seemed like, seemed like people did not give a shit. But I'm filling out this fan survey, so I'm going to continue to do that to wrap up this pod today. The Brewers, we get this fan survey, right?

A lot of people did. They want me to tell them, what do I enjoy most about attending the ballpark? Obviously, the answer to that is other. I love how much parking there is. I love to just go into the lot on non-game days and drive around fast.

So that is the truth. That's something I do like to do with the Brewers. Who do I go to the games with? One other person, my friend Tim Shea. With whom do I other?

Like I said, Tim Shea. What do I take? Oh, I take, I don't know, I'll just put car because I love to park. What type of seating do I enjoy?

I'm going to say sweets. They'll think I'm a big deal and they might pay more attention to my survey. If I click on things like, yes, I want to host, I want to do company wide events, I want to order 200 tickets. I'm saying all these things.

So maybe they think that I'm a big fan. Now I'm going to put extremely dissatisfied for all of these different things. And this is going to take a while. I want to get to the good part. So I'm going to skip ahead a little bit and get to the good part of this because this survey is already way too fucking long. All right.

I just fill out a bunch of questions about how much I love the parking. Now they're talking about different concepts. Concept one, adding a family zone.

I would be extremely interested. We're going to go Sunday and my kid's going to run on that thing, go up that shitty slide and then sit on a Bernie. They they need more. They need more.

They definitely need more. One would be on the terrace level. No, I hate the terrace level. I never want to go up there again. Lowe's infield's fine.

If I never go up to the terrace level again, except to poop, which is great, especially on game days, like day games. Would I pay 30 bucks for a ticket with access to the family zone? No. 20 bucks? No.

15? No, it's got to be included in the ticket. Concept two, Brewers Bash. A live entertainment outside the ballpark. Would I visit the Brewers Bash?

This event would take place every weekend throughout the year. Yes, you should have done this 15 years ago. Are they really thinking? Who's going to say no to this? What is the point of this survey? Does Rick Schlesinger know that this survey exists?

I feel like I feel like some of these employees are trying to convince Rick that people want more than just surface lots and they have to go to a survey. Premium parking. Oh, fuck yeah, I don't want to walk. I don't want to walk.

I'm just trying to get to more of these concepts. Would you pay $70 a game for a premium parking pass? Is this a fucking joke? Now the survey's making me mad. Oh my god, year-round social membership?

Why don't they just do all these things? I'm done. I'm quitting the survey. I thought I'd get a little more juice out of that bit. That's terrible. What a mad survey.

And I think it's long on purpose. Because how many people actually fill out that whole thing? You want to give me an hour so I could possibly win a Christian Yelich autograph?

Like I can't go on eBay and get 9,000 of those? What are we doing? I'm about to give them a piece of my mind. I'm going to spend an hour writing to the brewers about how long I think their survey was.

There are autographs of Christian Yelich like you would not believe. Alright, well, that'll wrap this up because, as I said, I talked to Kevin Holden after one of my shows, and it's now 2 in the morning, and this is absurd. But I love you all! Thank you for listening. Please enjoy Kevin Holden. Welcome back into the Winklerverse.

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