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You need Indeed. I hung out with Tim Shea on Wednesday. I hung out with Chuck Freeman on Tuesday. Oh, what a week it was.

I hung out with Steve Sparky Pfeiffer on the Bucks postgame show a little bit on 1250, so I get to see all my old chums and mates. It's been a good week in that regard. Not a good week in the regard of the Bucks. So we'll talk some brewers at the end. We'll talk some Packers in the middle. I've got some sound from Brian Gutekinst and Matt Lafleur as I try to figure out a little bit more about who these guys are that we drafted and also where they're going to slot in.

So some thoughts on that coming up today. And then the main thing is I want to start with the Bucks. And I know that I've basically already done two shows eulogizing this Bucks season and looking ahead towards the future. If you can catch any of those, they're on YouTube, they're on Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. We did a postgame show after one of the games the other night and then the episode with Paul and Grant.

We kind of really sunk our teeth into what changes can be made. And that'll be the topic of conversation. I think Giannis, 100%, he's not going anywhere. Dame is 99999. Chris, maybe a wild card. But I think watching him be so dejected, he's part of this. I don't want to see him not be part of this.

Everybody else is kind of fair game. You know, whether it's Bobby Portis or Brook Lopez or Pat Beverley who made up for not getting that foul call by throwing a ball at a fan. I mean, that was a hard throw.

That was a look. A hard throw. 128 to 98, the final between the Pacers and the Bucks.

What sucks about this one, well, where do I begin? It was nice that Dame was back. It was nice that we got to do a whole day of, is Dame playing?

Is Giannis playing? I saw this, I saw this, I heard this, I heard this. That was kind of nice, kind of fun, kind of reinvigorated things a little bit. And then boom, 5.30 start time, a little happy hour, you know, get it going, sink your teeth into a night. So that was kind of fun. And then they kind of had a lead right away and Bobby had this face. I was like, okay, baby, we might be doing this tonight.

We might be playing on Saturday night. And then the Pacers took over pretty quick and didn't let up. And what you saw was the others step up. Obie Toppin with 21 off the bench, career high. TJ McConnell, 20 points off the bench. You got guys like Bill Simmons tweeting that.

That's what I love. You watch this game as a casual observer. Yes, I did say that because it's a pregame for Knicks Sixers and you're like, oh, this is fun. Look at that, Bucks suck. A lot of people are going to look at this game and say, Bucks suck. And I don't, I don't think you can, I don't, I still think while there may be changes, I still don't think you can do any grand assessment of this team when you saw them in a playoff series without Giannis. If the Denver Nuggets played in the first round without Nikola Jokic and they got beat by the Lakers, nobody would be saying fire Michael Malone, trade Aaron Gordon, get rid of Michael Porter Jr. Nobody would be saying any of that kind of stuff.

But they're going to with the Bucks because Giannis never left. So everybody grades us on a curve because they're mad at us. And then we got Doc Rivers who's so easy to be a punching bag.

And then it just amplifies it. People are going to say this loss was on Doc. It wasn't. This loss was not on Doc. What, should he have played Andre Jackson Jr. more? Okay, should he have played AJ Green more?

What was that going to give you? They weren't going to win this game. Would have been better if they lost game five?

No, you always, you know, want a chance. And at least this wins six and it kind of feels like, hey, we were in the playoffs. Unlike the Brewers, it's just like, oh, they lose, they're done. The night itself sucks. I think the thing that bothers me, and I always, I always go this way, but it is what bothers me the most is I was screaming at my house about Tyrese Halliburton and my wife saw. And she's like, you always have a person on the other team that you despise.

I go, I don't want to. I don't want it to be this way. I just want to watch a series and be like, they were good, we were good. But everybody always, there's always that one person and it should have been TJ McConnell or Obi Toppin tonight. And maybe it was, but throughout this series, it was TJ or Tyrese Halliburton.

Here's the difference about that. When the Bucks have lost in these series, what pissed us off in the Raptor series? Fred Van Vliet, who was not a star then or worth a big contract at that time.

He was a guy that should not have, Norm Powell, right? The Boston Celtics, Grant Williams or Al Horford, certainly fine players, but not the centerpiece of their team. With the Miami Heat last year, it wasn't so much Tyler Herro or Jimmy Butler. It was Duncan Robinson. You know, it's these kind of guys, these kind of fifth or sixth or seventh guys on the roster that all of a sudden pop off against the Bucks. Those are the guys that we usually shift towards and we usually hate.

In this series, it had to be Tyrese Halliburton. And yeah, there's Wisconsin ties and, you know, I'm not saying that he should take it easy on the Bucks, but he is the star of that team. That's the difference.

The star of the team, even if he didn't play like it every night, the star of the team is the one that we hate the most. And that was the difference with this series. These Pacer fans, like, they're charged up. Basketball's good right now in Indiana. They got Kaitlyn Clark coming. It's just, I don't, they haven't won a series in a while and I'm not saying they shouldn't be happy.

I'm not saying that. But a lot of the way that they react, I'm watching some of these highlights as they have the box score up. React like that at the end of the game. Do the bye-byes at the end. Do the claps. Do all that stuff. Do the, ah, baby.

Hulk out at the end. You're doing that shit in the first quarter. It's obnoxious. It's unbecoming.

And I do think the Knicks or the Sixers, looks like the Knicks, I don't know, I'm recording this before my show, on Infinity Sports. Oh, that should be fun, talking about the Bucks. Maybe I just won't. Maybe I won't mention the game at all.

Maybe that's what I should do. But it just sucks. It just sucks. I do think whoever wins the other series is going straight to the Eastern Conference Finals. And we thought that about the Heat last year. And now I got to sit here and root against a team that I don't, coming into this postseason, I didn't, you know, the Pacers and the Bucks had their scuffle, but I don't think about them.

That's what I get tired of. It's not this moment. This moment's hard.

But it's not this moment that's going to stick with me. It's, we're going to see this team a bunch. Now, you can maybe not watch the playoffs.

I kind of can't. But we still will, because we're going to want to watch the playoffs. We're going to want to see them lose. We're going to want to see them get punked. We're going to want to see them get embarrassed. We're going to want to see them have done to them what we couldn't do to them.

We're going to want to see that. And it's just frustrating. And so I won't be happy now until they lose. Ah, yeah.

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Just to put it in context for him. And now with the Bucks, I got to tell him not that he gives a shit, but I got to tell him that they don't play again until after Halloween. And then, you know, we'll have new players and we'll have new whatever. But I just it sucks having to go through this again to just get back to this point.

And then when we get to this point, someone's always fucking hurt. It sucks. This sucks. Sucks. All right, so some thoughts on the Bucks there. I'll switch gears.

I'll talk some Brewers coming up and some Packers. Man. Sucks. Sucks. Sucks. We got a big Brewers series this week, too.

Brewers Cubs. So hopefully that doesn't continue to make us go crazy. This is into the Winklerverse, part of the Blue Wire podcast network. Appreciate your time here.

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Another thing I wanted to do this morning was just kind of catch myself up on and get everybody caught up on. If you're not some of these draft picks with the helps of our friends, Brian Gudekinst and Matt Lafleur that were selected by the Green Bay Packers. Packers had eight total selections when all was said and done. Did get active in the undrafted free agent class, of which I've heard of none of those guys. Well, there's a long snapper from Wisconsin.

I think the Packers always should have a Wisconsin guy on their team no matter what. I don't care what position he plays. I don't care if it's a wide receiver.

I don't care if it's I don't care. There needs to be one guy. I think we can all agree on that. So first guy they took was from Arizona, Jordan Morgan. He is an offensive lineman from Arizona.

He's played guard a bunch, but he would qualify as a left tackle. And I'm not sure you're going to see him starting right away with the offensive line potentially being Walker, Jenkins, Myers, Sean Ryan, Zach Tom. They've been really big on wanting to have the best five be the offensive line.

And I think that's why some people and this is fine. I'm not saying it's not, but some people were not too in love with the pick right away because you wanted somebody that would start specifically a cornerback, which the Packers ignored until way late in the draft, which might ended up have working out for them as well. But they took Jordan Morgan out of. Arizona and Brian Gudekins and Matt Leflore both kind of talking about it and thinking that yeah, this guy. We want the best five, but this guy will be a left tackle for us.

I think I think that's where naturally where you'd look. That's what he's played his whole career and he's played a lot of football. So but ultimately, and I know you guys love to hear me say all the time how we're going to get the best five out there.

And I think there is some cross training that goes on along the way. But ultimately, we just got to get the best five that give us a chance to move the football. I think if you were upset about the offensive pick and not going defense, you felt a little better with what the Packers were able to do in the second round getting Edger and Cooper. He was another guy that people had looked at as a guy that, OK, what a perfect fit for the Packers in the second round. This guy was first all team SEC last year. Eighty four tackles, eight sacks for Texas A&M, six to 230. Later, then they go ahead and take Javon Bullard. He is a safety out of Georgia.

So another Georgia guy started 12 games, missed a couple in the middle of the season. But the Packers are doing something that we talk about baseball teams doing. And that is where is the most important part of a baseball team's defense? It's up the middle. It's the catcher.

It's the pitcher. It's your guys at second, your guys at short, and then it's the center fielder. And so at least for this draft, the strategy was we got to build the inside of our defense from Brian Gudekins. We had a lot of guys on the inside of our of our back end that can really that can really run and hit. You know, I mean, taking the linebackers and the safeties and particularly two of the safeties that we took that can go play nickel as well. So really just kind of fortifying the inside of our defense with guys who I think are going to help us right away.

And then also some depth. So I think that's probably how we've gotten we've gotten better. So where do they slot then in terms of when are we going to see these guys on the field?

It's a great question. It's something that we are, you know, going to learn. We'll see the mini camp. We'll see the preseason.

There's a long way to go. But if you look at maybe an initial kind of projection on a depth chart, you're going to look at Adrian Cooper as somebody that is shot up the ranks. It's going to be Quay Walker and maybe Adrian Cooper. Now, Tyron Hopper is another guy that they drafted a little bit later. They drafted Tyron Hopper in the third round, so they were really looking at these guys. I probably could have lumped him in with those guys as well. Second team All-SCC finalist for the Butkus Award with Missouri. And you might see in terms of linebacker overall, just an overall Quay is going to be a part of that.

Adrian Cooper is going to be a part of that. Isaiah McDuffie, maybe Tyron Hopper. So those of you with Eric Wilson stock and Christian Welch stock. You're like, who? What?

Are those any more worthwhile than actual Packard stock? But you'll probably see both of those guys. I mean, it's a second round pick, third round pick. You'll probably see them not just make the team, but contribute in some way. Now, with the safety, they drafted a bunch of safeties. They took a lot of cracks at safety, whether it's Xavier McKinney in the offseason. Javon Bullard is probably going to line up as your second safety.

Anthony Johnson Jr. from a year ago, Evan Williams, Ola Dapo, they drafted as well. So they drafted three safeties. They went heavy on safeties throughout the draft, which they needed to do. They needed to do. Some would think, well, why didn't they also do that at cornerback? As I jump around a little bit, why didn't they also do that at cornerback? I think a lot of us were in love with Cooper Dejean right away from Iowa.

Eventually goes to the Eagles in a day two trade up. But they got Kalen King out of Penn State. And I know that's going to trigger a lot of people because Kalen King sounds like Kevin King. And that is weird. There's no doubt about it. But that is weird. And they play the same position.

It is weird. But he was somebody that a year ago could have been projected as a first round talent. Ohio State beat them pretty bad.

And I don't know that they ever quite recovered from that. But he's somebody that it's very interesting when these guys fall to where they do. Every team passes on him many times. And then they get drafted and everyone's like, oh, boy, that was a great pick. That was a great pick. Like when you do your fantasy drafts. Oh, that was a great pick. You love hearing that from your friends who have passed over this guy in every round. It's like these people mean nothing.

You're trying to beat them. Oh, great pick. Great pick. Whenever the fantasy room says great pick, normally it's going to be a bad pick.

But this is different because it's about Packers and not fake life football. Yeah, I think, you know, I mean, I mean, I think our league is kind of there's been a long history of guys that kind of felt they were overlooked and use that as motivation to drive them. So hopefully that'll be the case.

I didn't hear that. So, you know, he's certainly was a guy that I think expected to go higher. And as we kind of went through it, you know, we felt very fortunate to be able to pick him where we did. He's got really nice skills. He's played some high level football at Penn State. You know, so, you know, I think he's got some versatility to to play outside, play nickel as well. So and again, I think his best football is ahead of him as well. So I think, you know, he's a young player. He's a three year player coming out. So, you know, hopefully that does drive him. You know, I think we're going to have a very competitive secondary right now.

And I feel I feel really good about that. And it's going to be fun to watch those guys kind of excel. So obviously they have Jair Alexander, who is, without question, a starting cornerback in this league, no matter what he does or we think of him or whatever. But then behind that, would these guys start on other teams? Carrington Valentine, seventh round pick a year ago, he'll compete.

Nixon, they signed him. They like him, obviously, in the return game, but also in the secondary. They like him. Eric Stokes. We can't forget about Eric Stokes. Corey Valentine stepped up when he needed to.

And then Kalen King is going to probably slot at the back end of that or maybe push up for more time. It's a good seventh round pick. It's a guy that there's been expectations. Gudekin's pretending like he didn't hear about those, but it's a good seventh round pick.

A guy that they are going to put time in, invest in. And it's a low risk, high reward type of thing. There's talent there.

Didn't always work out, but there is talent there. And the Packers are going to see what they can get out of him. So to recap the draft again, I've been bouncing around, but round one, Jordan Morgan, offensive lineman, Arizona. They go Edgerusher with Edgerin Cooper. Whether he's actually an Edgerusher or not, his name's Edgerin.

He's an Edgerusher to me. Second round, Javon Bullard as well, the safety. Third round, they go running back with Marshawn Lloyd. You knew at one point they would take a running back.

The Braylon Allen to Green Bay Dream did not work out, but they did take a running back. And it was Marshawn Lloyd. And he's going to compete right away for that RB2.

It was Matt Lafleur. I think he's a piece that, first of all, he's big. He's 220 pounds. He's got really good speed. And I think he gives us an element out the backfield.

He really showcased that the week of the Senior Bowls, especially in the one-on-one situations that he was in, and just gives us a little different flavor maybe. So you're going to have, obviously, Josh Jacobs. You're going to have AJ Dillon. And then you're going to have Marshawn Lloyd. Now, I know that Dillon's contract doesn't...

There's a lot of wiggle room. They can flat-out cut this guy and not really have any penalty. Ultimately, I think AJ Dillon is a Packer in 2024 for the duration of the season. But that third running back, you see a Patrick Taylor or you see, who's now with the Niners, I believe, you see an Emmanuel Wilson. They will fight. They will wow us. There'll be a 60-yard run that they rip off in Game 3 of the preseason. And we're going to be like, oh, my God, is Ellis Mayer, whether they're going to make this team.

Well, he's not. It will be Josh Jacobs. It will be Marshawn Lloyd. And I'm pretty sure AJ Dillon will also make the team.

I would bet on that if I had to, that three of a running back group. They've got, not to be Mike McCarthy, but they've got a lot invested in AJ Dillon. I just think that there is a role for AJ Dillon that a lot of teams would want.

There's a role for AJ Dillon that the Packers would want. Lead back is not that role. Second-in-one is not that role. Nor is third-in-one or fourth-in-one. Maybe fourth and maybe third and three. Third and three because you'll get us two and then we can find another way to to get the one.

Yeah, I like that. After that, Tyron Hopper, as I mentioned, the linebacker out of Missouri. Evan Williams is a safety out of Oregon. He's going to go into that mix at safety where it's a completely new room, which we talked about a little bit ago. There's a lot of changes in that secondary room, specifically at safety where a lot of guys of the past are long gone.

I can't even remember them off the top of my head. Jacob Monk. They drafted him round five center Duke. There's a lot of, you know, these like, hey, what was the Packers best value pick? A lot of people are going with Jacob Monk in that category. Packers certainly happy to get him. He did some work at the Senior Bowl and the Packers kind of caught an eye to him.

Yeah, really. First of all, he's a really good player. He's very quick.

He's very strong, powerful man. He can play guard, he can play center. So he's got the versatility that we like. He's a two-time captain.

I think he started 50-some games there with the kind of the NIL and the COVID rules. So he's shown to be exceptionally durable over a long time at a position that's hard to be. So, yeah, just the more we got to know him as a person and then all the things coming out of there, it was just, he just, he really felt like, you know, he was a fit for what we're trying to do, not only athletically and what he could do on the field, but just, you know, kind of the grit and determination that you have to have to be a really good player in that room. And it was actually Travis Glover, the lineman from Georgia that they saw at the Senior Bowl. Tim Shea, if you could edit that in post, but they still like Jacob Monk, no matter what I said.

Tim, please make sure you edit this, please. Oladipo, again, I mentioned Oladapo at safety. Travis Glover, then the offensive lineman. Seventh round, they took Kaelin King.

And then the one guy we haven't mentioned yet is Michael Pratt. They took a quarterback. They took a quarterback. Now, is he going to be better, have a better pro career than J.J. McCarthy? I think a lot of people have made that comparison. I saw that tweet going around.

I don't know. But people seem to like this pick too. 6-2, 217 out of Tulane. Last year started 11 games, 65 percent completion rate, 2,400 yards, 22 touchdowns, five picks, and he did have five rushing touchdowns as well.

So I don't know how much you caught Tulane. Usually I am a big daily fantasy guy, no matter what. This guy was still not on my radar, but he was on the Packers radar, and he will probably serve as a backup to Jordan Love.

Would you give it to him right away? Do you want a Sean Clifford in there? I mean, backup quarterback is an important position. I've been talking about this with the Falcons. It's an important position. It's okay to have a good backup quarterback.

The Sean Clifford-Michael Pratt battle is going to feed families. Had to have Grant in the preseason. Alex Magoo, remember him, USFL MVP? He was in the quarterback room earlier this week. Now he's going to be a wide receiver, which I'd say it's tougher for him to make the team as a wide receiver than it is a quarterback, but it's probably the exact same chances of nil. So Pratt, a guy that they take, Michael Pratt, out of Tulane. He's a quarterback, so these picks always get a little more attention, which means I have both Brian Gudekinst and Matt Leflore talking about their new QB 3.

Obviously a winner. He really turned that program around, started a lot of games for him. I think he won 21 or more games over the past two years. He's a good athlete. He's got a pretty live arm, very accurate.

Just kind of like the way he handled himself in the games that he played. Had some big wins. So we were excited. I wanted to add a quarterback. A bunch of them went early, so there wasn't a lot of guys available in the mid-round. As we got later and later, he was kind of the only one left that we really wanted to target, and we were able to get him, which was nice. Yeah, I think he's a guy that he definitely is a tough, fearless thrower.

To me, that's a prerequisite for the position. You've got to be able to stand in there and throw in muddy pockets, throw in the face of pressure, and I think he exhibited that. I think he's a winner. So we were excited.

We were kind of shocked that he was still there on the seventh. So Matt Leflore clearly made all that up. He's got no idea who they drafted. How would you answer a question about a quarterback? You have no idea. You've never seen him. No, he's a good thrower at football.

I mean, goodness. We know everybody that went in the first round, and then nobody went until the fifth round with Spencer Rattler. So that would have been a little different if the Packers got him. Jordan Travis going to the Jets. I think that's a good pick there. Joe Milton should be interesting in New England. Yes, they took Drake May.

I don't think this is a competition anytime soon. This is a depth spot or a practice squad spot. Devin Leary then was the other quarterback that went besides Michael Pratt, the last quarterback taken. So good value. Many thought he'd be off the board by then, but good value. And I think that's what you're looking for in the seventh round. Again, it'll be interesting to see. Sean Clifford had some moments.

He had enough moments where people in towns under 1200 wanted him to be the starter. I'm not saying anything. That's just statistical facts. I did a breakdown. I am not saying anything.

I actually did a study. I went town to town and found out that in population towns under 1200, there was a lot more Sean Clifford vote than there was Jordan Love vote. That's all I am saying. They just liked him. So I don't know where Michael Pratt fits in, but we'll find out. So that's kind of a overview, along with Brian Gudekins and Matt Lafleur, of who the Packers took, what they expect out of them, where they think they're going to land in the depth chart, and what to think going forward. Again, no cornerback until very late. No wide receiver. There was no need for one. They shored up defensively where they needed to.

I think there's still some left to be desired, but I also think they had a good selection. This was a very Gudekins draft. This is the draft that we know. There's a position you need.

We're going to take three of these guys. There's a quarterback late? Sure. A running back? Of course. The position that we all think we really, really need?

Oh, we'll take that at the very, very end. Very Gudekins draft. Nothing different about this one than the other ones that we have seen in the past. And I think he has, for the most part, a pretty good track record on these kind of things.

So we'll see again how it all settles. And I don't think where the Packers were drafting there was like, one guy away. Get this guy.

He's going to be a big impact guy right away. One guy away. We know that left tackle's been a problem.

They can move guys around, but they don't want to run into a situation where an offensive lineman gets hurt and it inadvertently costs them two Super Bowls. So they went in depth there. So good marks from me.

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The Aaron Judge situation where he just puts his arms up for a touchdown, and if you hit one of his hands on the throw, I'm sorry that's just on you I guess. Monday night with the whole batters interference garbage. Tuesday night with the whole Freddie Peralta situation.

Freddie, I like what he said, he says, I've given up enough home runs in my life, I don't retaliate. But that wasn't what the crew decided he was doing. No warnings were given, and they threw him out. He also had Abner Eribe, who did not look that great on Wednesday and was eventually sent down. But he had a suspension. Freddie essentially suspended one game.

They lost Jose Siri for three games, and then Murphy is suspended for two games. So Ricky Weeks got his first win on Wednesday. I don't think it counts that way though. At least it doesn't in high school soccer because I had to coach for my dad one weekend, and I coached in a tournament and we went 2-1.

My dad counts those wins on his record. I mean technically he is the coach, and I wasn't hired as an interim coach. But also I coach those games. Now you could say that it's his team, he got them ready.

You could say all of that. But I was the coach for those games. Do I not then have two wins as a high school coach? I feel like I do. I was the goalkeeper coach, and then I filled in.

But I don't think that's how they do it. So Pat Murphy is not going to appeal, which means he's not going to manage in this first game of the Brewers Cubs series, which is interesting. Did he not want to? Does he want to put some of the hoopla to bed?

Did he not want to do the exchange on Friday? Because I've been all worried about this exchange, the lineup exchange. Now it will be Ricky Weeks and Craig Council. That will be even weirder I guess. If Council comes out for the exchange, if Ricky does.

What I don't want to see is Murphy be all glad-handing about Council. They can text each other after the game. They can get together before the game. They can have a private moment. They can hang out all weekend.

They can commute together back to Milwaukee the next time they play. I don't care. I just don't want to see it. I don't want to see them being friendly in any way. I know the long-storied relationship they have. I want to see it now.

Maybe I'll want to see it later. When Craig gets his, I don't know, seat of fame or whatever the Brewers give out. By the way, is nothing not sponsored at American Family Field? I mean, I'm all for sponsors.

Sure, you guys know I am. But it's like even the seats, every other seat was like insurance company, Brewers. It's like we get it. We get it.

You paid for the naming rights for the stadium. That doesn't mean every time I open my eyes, I need to see your logo. That's all I'm saying about that, okay?

That's just what I'm saying. Plus, I'm a Dan Cheney man. So if Dan Cheney's head was all over the place, it'd be a different story for sure. So Murphy's not going to manage in this first game, which is interesting. It'll be different, but it will be a pretty wild series. The game is during the day.

If you want to check out that Pado Sportsbook, this is not so much of a sponsor thing. It's just that I went there with Chuck this week, and that was really fun to hang out with Chuck. There was a table that we walked by, and they go, oh my God, it's Chuck Freeman. And then the other guy goes, and Bart Winkler's with him.

And they go, we never thought you'd see each other together again. And I feel like that was planted. I feel like that was set up for us, because that made us feel pretty good.

That might have been a little too good to be true, I feel like. Speaking of the Brewers, I do have a voicemail from Marty the Beer Baron. He was upset on Monday's game. Wednesday the roof was open, and it was pretty nice. I said close the roof, but Wednesday was pretty nice.

Marty was there Monday, and the roof was closed, and he did not like it. And so he leaves the following voicemail on the sponsor. Carl's Place Voicemail Line! Carl of ET.com backslash Bart.

402915 B-A-R-T. Hey Bart, this is the Beer Baron. Just calling with a complaint of the Brewers here. Why is the roof closed tonight? It is 68 degrees, it's partly cloudy, it is a gorgeous day. I'm going to the ballpark, I turn the corner on the freeway, and lo and behold the roof is closed. I don't understand what we're doing here. If this was a game at County Stadium, would we be canceling the game because it's not 70 degrees and sunny? Why is the roof closed?

We need to get to the bottom of what the parameters are to require it to be open. Because this is a travesty that is on par with some terrible things I'm not going to get into right now. But I'm so fired up that this thing is closed. I don't know what to do, I'm beside myself. Winkler first, we need to sift the Brewers and attack Mark A and Rick and figure out what in the heck they're doing here. If it's too cold for some olds, then they need to go to the team store and buy a jacket.

This is outrageous, I don't know what else to say, I'm speechless. Go Brewers. I think it comes down to, I think it simply comes down to the Brewers are trying to do whatever they can to make sure they get the most amount of people in the stadium. And you may be on to something, but I'm sure there's enough people that would say, let's go to the game tonight. Well it's kind of chilly, is the roof open? And it is, and they'll be like, nah, I don't want to go, but if it's shut they might go.

They $5 flash sale this series, got $20,000 in there on Wednesday. I don't know what it was the rest of the week. And I think that's what it is. I'm also sure they don't want to hear people complain. And the amount of complaints, hey the roof was closed, we'll bitch about it on here. But if the roof was open, that guest services line would be all the way to Dippin' Dots. The ice cream of the future.

So that's probably the result there. Brewers comes this weekend, we have that. So that will wrap up this podcast, this episode of Into the WinklerVerse. Thanks as always for still putting this in your brain. You can always check out the YouTube channel as well. Like and subscribe on every platform to keep this train moving. Alright, thanks for coming into the WinklerVerse, have a great weekend. And I'll see you next time.