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I am Bart Winkler. Grant Bills is here. Paul Emmig is here. Hello. And I think we should get right into the box.

I think that we. Um need to do that. Was on the air on Tuesday night. It was very hard to watch the game. And be focused on my show.

And then it was much harder when. Tyrese Halliburton was saying that our fans suck, which That's something that I get to say. And in game one, they were good. I thought the crowd was good. But I just don't like his whole vibe of like These guys haven't won anything.

They took runners up in the in-season tournament. and they tied a series one one. That exchange where everybody clapped in each other's face It gave me nightmares. It was so awful.

So, with that. opening statement.

Well also let me just add to that very briefly. Tyrese Halliburton has been. In the In the words of MJF, Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. Like In the words of Bart Winkler, I proclaimed last night that he was No better than the seventh most effective player in the series so far. That is probably being Players who have been better on the pacers, Siacham, obviously, Nemhard, Neesmith.

Turner, Miles Turner. All four of those guys have been better in the series in two games, two games, two games. But They've I don't know. I've not looked at some of the more advanced stuff of, you know, whatever basketball's version of war is. But the wins above replacement for those four guys would be.

More than Halliburton's. I hate, I'm so bummed that this cool, this kid from Appleton. Oshkosh. Oshkosh, whatever. Like A normal Nice human who we can all like root for from afar.

He just had to kind of be schmucky and root against, like, say the things that he said after that. That's, I'm, I'm bummed about that because. Yeah. And also Yeah. This went from like the Sabonis trade, went from being this thing where it's like, what were the kings thinking?

And like, deer and fox. Is a better player than Tyrese Halliburton. Mm-hmm. Or. Uh Mm-hmm.

I love me some DeAren Fox, but I think that's a little strong, Paul. Are you? Should I read to you Halliburton's stats since the in-season 2012? No, I think the thing where I groaned was like the Kings. My take on the Kings is they built, they did everything right.

They found a way to build a good team. It's just that their duo. Isn't as good as the other duos. It's just not. But do you think if they could somehow.

If De'Aaron Fox was on the Pacers in these two games, he would have been much more of an impact than Tyrese Halliburton. Absolutely. I'd actually be worried about De'Aaron Fox. This is. Halliburton since the in-season tournament, 16 points, 3 rebounds, 43% shooting, 31 from 3.

Why is he getting look? He had, okay, he had a great. month and a quarter. He had a great five weeks to start the season. He's going to be an all NBA player based on five weeks?

It's a bit rich for my blood. He's the engine. No, I'm saying the slander that you guys are throwing at Charlie Calberton is a little rich for my blood. Oh my god.

Well, I'm also in a very defensive mode because I put a tweet out that said he is becoming the least likable Wisconsin athlete born athlete ever. Yeah. And I've got. I didn't know this was a thing. Pacers Twitter.

All up in my shit. And I'm getting all the like, it's not again. I want to make this very clear for people who think I have thin skin and I'm a little bitch. I don't Care If I'm constantly getting arrows at me. I just think there should be a reason why.

And the arrows should be. better than I just got this one. Your name is literally Bart Winkler. What does that mean? My name's fucking sweet.

You don't forget that name. Unless you just meet me and then two minutes later call me Brett. That happens a lot. Cry more. Yeah.

Just I mean if you're gonna say something say something. It's just Really annoying. They're just upping your impressions. The algorithm loves. And the amount of people.

Or the amount of replies. Like, if you look at my replies and think, wow, there's a lot of people saying crime more to Bart. There's a lot more pictures of two women having intercourse. With a picture that says Lincoln bio. Yeah.

Not even blurred anymore. Ah. Yeah. You used to live in a time where you had to watch channel 76 scrambled. Just to get a glimpse, you used to have to go to your uncle's house and check under every mattress and cushion to see if there was a stack of Playboys.

Grant knows what you're talking about with these examples. He's Now all you have to do is put out a tweet that has... Five or more engagements to it. And you're going to see You're gonna see sexual content. What a time.

It really is. What time? All right. First topic. I don't know who I got.

Paul's normal 2:30 breakfast. No, this was not.

So Bart. I have to get my meal in before the 16 hours fasting, right? You're doing it with me still? Yep. All right.

Because if I want to eat in the morning, I got to get.

So, all right. I stole this phrasing from someone. Part of you just wants this team to fucking lose and be done with it. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm.

Uh grant. The one time in the history of the show you're going to have me go first.

Well, I'll go first. You want me to go first? No, I can go first. I mean, that thought's crossed my mind. Quite a few times.

I mean, it depends on how. Giannis comes back and when he comes back. Um because I think like Like game two of the series, that game felt like it had a Giannis-sized hole in it. Yeah, like Siakam kind of gets free rein. Miles Turner kind of gets free reign of those are two players.

Yeah, Marcus Johnson, a little much with that. I love Marcus Johnson, just a little, a little heavy-handed. I think he forgot Siakam's name at one point. That could have been it. And then I felt like Lisa was overdoing the Siakam to combat the spicy pee.

A couple of the things that I noticed. I don't know. Yeah, Paul, the thought has crossed my mind many times. It's just like, if this is gonna go down in flames, let's just... Do it now so I don't have to rush home after work.

And commit a beautiful spring night of my evening to sitting on the couch being pissed off. I already do that with the Brewers. I don't need two versions of that every night. I can do with just the one. I will say that.

See, I'll be honest that that thought has crossed my mind. Plenty. I'll take the fall for the Tuesday night loss because I watched it live. Oh, Paul. Which Is not something I do?

And I won't do it again. That was a terrible experience. Um as a matter of fact. Please say nothing about the Clippers Mavericks, for I still have to finish it. And I will.

And I will on my own time, I will watch it unspoiled, unless one of YouTube bastard says something. Um, Bart.

So you don't know about Luca's knee then? That's an acceptable joke in that moment. Yes. Bart, part of you wants this team to just lose and be done with it? No, but let let me just add real quick.

I I think and by the way um Yeah, one of the three of us may have This may have been a Pre-air discussion. But I think part of the calculus With the question, at least the way I Think of it. Is that Ithianis comes back. We can reference Kevin Durand where his calf turned into the Achilles. Part of the calculus of answering that question could be.

We don't know the medical status. I don't think he's coming. I came into the series not thinking he's playing. But now unless And Doc Rivers, you know, he's doing it. If he plays in game three, he could have played in game two, in my medical opinion.

Doc Rivers is doing his job by putting a seed of doubt. Where, like, the comments I saw Eric Names' tweets were before Tuesday Night's game, before game two, was essentially that. I forget, sorry to paraphrase Eric, but it was like, yeah, he's further along than we thought, or he's doing better. He was on the court doing his pre-work stuff, but it made me think, oh. Oh, he's playing in this series.

Maybe it's game three, maybe it's game four, maybe it's game five, but Giannis is playing in the series. But I think part of the calculus. Could just be that ye you would want to avoid further injury which could happen. A calf injury can create many things, as Durand and others have found out. But anyway, Bart, your take on part of you just wants his team to lose and be done with it, which, by the way, Grant, I I hear what you're saying in your response, but.

Last night is still probably a fresh wound and I I think that if you know, it's a bit Yeah, I know what you're saying, but it's probably because the wound is still very fresh. Bart, over to you.

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Professionally, I will answer this first. Yes. Professionally Doing a show. When they are playing. is very hard.

Now, if they play on, like, this schedule is okay, Sunday and then Friday afternoon, and then. Uh Sunday, all right. But when they're losing in the moment and I'm watching the game. And then when they're losing, and then I have to like re I really Cause there are some people that have like Because this is this is what's messed up. I do a show in Milwaukee.

So obviously I know more Milwaukee. Then Most national radio people.

So I will use Milwaukee as references. Like, Just simple things like Hey, I went to a brewers game or. You know, when I remember growing up and watching Brett Favre, stuff like that.

So I feel like I have. done a pretty good job. Of making sure it's not, oh, I'm doing a Milwaukee show that these affiliates are stuck with. I'm doing a national show. A lot of times, instead of saying my favorite team, I'll say your favorite team.

Just stuff like this. I make a concerted effort. to not sound like I'm doing Into the Winkler verse. On the uh Infinity Sports Network. That being said, There are People who hear me say something like, Yeah, no, I had a fun day.

Oh, how was my day? Thanks for asking. I went to the Brewers game and then got ready for the show.

Okay. Yes, hello, Infinity Sports Network. This is affiliate. Too much brewer talk on the show today. We can get he's in Milwaukee, but why does he have to mention?

I feel. As I get older. That I am not smarter. necessarily than most people, but I am better at comprehension. than most people.

And that's my big word. I put out that tweet about Tyrese Halliburton. I got one guy. Sending me articles about Ryan Braun doing stuff and Brett Favre doing stuff. Friend, I said Wisconsin born.

It's simple inability to read. inability or the rush to want to fight. And prove someone wrong. And that's what bothers me about some of the Things that I deal with.

So I just, it's easier for me to do my job. If Milwaukee is not In involved in anything because then I don't have to take that trap. Um However What's hard for me is the post game. I can sort of watch a game better. Then I can.

React to the game afterwards, especially when the quotes start coming out and Halliburton says all this stuff. Um The Dan Shaney YouTube stream shows two very engaged listeners. Paul's at least nodding his head between bites of chicken nuggets. I don't know what Bills is doing. I don't want them to lose.

I'm really listening without needing to interject or provide. Keep going. How do you do that? How does that work? It's my 10 to 2 job every day.

I listen intently and provide. Witticisms when necessary. I don't know. Like, professionally, it's easier to do my job if the Bucks just lose. But if they lose in such a way, then I have to, like, defend the Bucs.

Because how they're going to lose Is not going to be how it's perceived that they lose. How Adrian Griffin got fired was not how it's perceived that he got fired. How docs are doing with this theme and how it's perceived? How the pacers are Tied with us is not. They're tight with us 'cause Giannis isn't playing.

But then you're going to be like, oh, Doc Rivers. It's like people just forget that Giannis exists. Giannis is not playing in the series. In the Pelican series, everyone's like, oh, well, no Zion. In the Heat series, everyone's like, oh, well, no, Jimmy.

And in this series, it's like, no, fuck that. You got to do it. Fuck Giannis. You don't get him. It's it's it's really this whole season's been like this.

Where the Bucks are held to a higher standard. And then, if I say that, because I believe that with my fullest. And then if I say that on the show, then it's like. Hello, network. We're affiliate.

This guy, I mean, we get it. He lives in fucking Milwaukee. We get it. You know what though?

So, we might be more sensitive to these things, and we have our bias with it. But sometimes It defies logic. Like when ESPN, I sent it to you guys the other day, they had their list of the. Was it the 25 most important, most impactful players for the playoffs or whatever? And before you could get to the.

Um Like before you could read all 25, you had to log into ESPN Plus, which I don't have, but I could see the first 13. And it mentioned up top: okay, we're not going to rank Kawhi Leonard or Yannis because their availability is a question mark and blah, blah, blah. You could see the first 13 before logging in. And I saw Tyrese Halliburton's name. I didn't see Damian Willard's name.

You're making a list of the most important, most impactful. Like, if your team's going to do good, here are the guys that need to play well list. And in a non-Giannis, like we're not going to include Giannis in this list.

Okay, that's fine. That makes sense. That's cool. You're going to have that be a qualifier and then not put Damian Lillard like ahead of some. That isn't Bart, you've said it before.

If the exact rosters were flipped, like Boston and Milwaukee, I promise you that Boston Celtic Damian Lillard, who's the, you know, the one B to Giannis' one A, and Giannis is out for the Boston Celtics. Lillard would be in the top 13. Like, I know that's nitpicky and kind of dumb and sort of a local, whatever, but like. It's it's a I mean, it could be disputed. There's no way to prove it, but like to me, that's a fact.

How could you, a professional NBA writer who does this for a living, be like, Yeah, I don't think Dame is one of the 13 most important players, even without Giannis. The fuck are you because they're all Celtics fans? It's unbelievable. You can't tell me that that's not the case, that it's not. Inherent bias and that they just don't want to, they don't want the Bucs to win.

For I mean, it was on display during the finals, like the national media people are like, oh, fucking Milwaukee. I gotta go to fucking Milwaukee. What? You know, like some of the guys were cool. TNT crew was cool about it, but there were plenty of others who nationally bitched.

If Diana won a title, it was on the backs of his brothers and his trials and tribulations and his journey to get here. And the guys in the Bucks organization early on that drafted him and his teammates along the way. Those were everybody that helped hold him up. If Tatum wins a title, it's on the backs of Doris Burke and Hubie Brown and Kendrick Perkins. I will say, can I throw something in on the topic of Milwaukee versus the world?

I get it. especially relative to Boston. Also, it's a little much when I'm listening to you know, 97.3 or William Tausch or I'm listening to Sparky. Like, don't you Milwaukee sports talkers, do you ever get sick of the woe is me complex? The national media hates Milwaukee.

The national media doesn't want Giannis Win MVP. The National Media, it's just a little much sometimes. It's a little victim. Milwaukee sports talkers, he does. You know, but Grant, like.

We have no, we can talk about whatever we want. We can go for four minutes, we can go for 40 minutes, we can go for an hour and a half, the three of us. Mm-hmm. What I think, Bart, this is one of your charges in life that you feel that you're responsible for. But I feel like.

Other people are noticing this, right? Like it's one of those like, am I taking crazy pills things? This is not like the Milwaukee bias, right? This is not like, oh, my guy, oh, my team. Every other team was celebrated at one point in the season.

Yeah, it's like, I want to check. with the three of you or the two of the three of us but then like listeners who might hear but And Bar like You wouldn't ask this for all the reasons that you've mentioned on the National Perspective Show, but it's like: do other people see this? You know, it's like those one of the, and so that's why I. The Walt Lee Suns team is down 0-2, getting less strife than an injured Bucs team tied at one. It's so.

It It's weird. And it's and it's like And Grant, to your point, is it like, oh, we're being oversensitive, so we're overvaluing. and overjudging the criticism that We are taking Compared to the Suns. I think Bart's point. And Bart, who is a local guy and a national guy, all packaged up in one.

I just don't think I don't think he's wrong. It's, it just, could it, could any, and, could any like. Unbiased NBA fan. Say, like, you know, who's not one of the 13 most important players in these playoff series? Is Damian Lillard, even though there's no Giannis.

Like, that's fucking ridiculous. Like, you just. That it's illogical. I guess the difference the only thing can be is like, okay, so there's buy-in. Like, there's something else, there has to be an explanation.

I guess the difference between you and me is I just don't. I don't care enough about whatever list that was. I saw the tweet, we don't even know what it's from. I know it is from it's from ESPN. I went to it.

Who wrote it? The NBA Collective.

Okay. Well, I don't. And like, yeah, that's bad. That's dumb. It's dumb.

It's, it's silly. I also just, I don't. I mean, I've heard other national, I've heard other national radio shows where they, where one of the folks involved with it has insisted that Giannis is a coach killer. That's just that's dumb. I'll defend Yannis a little bit on that against the national media.

I I also Can't And this is part of me ignoring the pain in the regular season. I can ignore it in the regular season because it doesn't matter. I can't control my emotions in the playoffs. I have a hard time dealing with playoffs.

So, do you think and not the winning, the losing? Do you think though, Bart, here's a here's a fun question that is very specific and like perfect for you. Do you think that the practice that a lot of these Bucks fans that you get on their case of like caring too much about the regular season. Do you think the reps that those fans have gotten in by being so upset about regular season wins has prepared them for this playoff loss more so than you? Because You haven't been caring.

And so now you're like, now you care all at once.

Well, crazily enough, both. ways of practice are not effective. I think we were all on the same spot last night. It's just that some get to say, like, I told you so, or whatever. Yeah.

But I do think part of the reason I haven't finished that Clippers Mavericks game was. I don't, I didn't want to, like, it's like the thing if the Packers lose at the Saturday. Night game, and then there's Sunday playoff games the next day. I'm gonna watch. But I'm kind of just, I don't really want this right now.

You know what I mean? Because it wasn't that they lost. And by the way, I attribute the game one win mostly to the Pacers shooting poorly, and the game two loss by the Bucs to the Pacers shooting well. It sometimes is not that complicated. Um Yeah.

I don't know. We can move on. I don't know. Do other markets sit around and complain about how the national media hates them? Like, is this something that every place does, or is this just this?

I've seen it. I've seen a, I mean, not that we're as closely tied to it as we would be in Philadelphia, but I sure feel like that was happening over the past. day and a half in Philly. With all the commentary about How the game ended and then I don't know, Stephen A. Smith sitting courtside, and then he went on.

I think they got, I thought Maxie got mugged, and they got, and then the last two-minute report comes out. And then, you know, there's definitely three Philadelphia Bart Winklers who have been getting quicks. Cry more responses. If someone said, like, seriously, the NBA has just declared he was fouled. The NBA just declared that Nick Nurse called a timeout and it should have been granted.

And the response to these facts would be crazy. Try more. I just wish there was a way to like I'm tweeting to a Wisconsin audience. I don't want to have to get in a thing against Indiana fans. It's so annoying.

You can, but you know, not that you should do this. You guys, Grant, you tweet more than Paul. Do you ever get this where it's like, I gotta pick up your tweet, and it's the worst thing because you just have to wait for it to end. Yeah, Nuggets fans found my tweet about. the NASIS yesterday.

Like five or six of them. And most of them. Jokic brothers. Yeah. And most of them were right.

They're all like, what does this have to do with anything? And I'm like, nothing, but you're just making a joke for your audience. Yeah. And it got like a thousand likes because it's funny and, you know. Don't let facts.

stand in the way of a good tweet. ever. I do remember about five years ago. I don't remember the exact situation, but it was a Cincinnati Reds player. against the Brewers where You guys might remember.

Maybe you'll be able to connect the dots for me. But it was a guy who had been hit more than anyone else. And, like, he. Straight up, like, offered his elbow to get hit by the pitch. Like, he's like, Yes, here, here it is.

Like, can you hit it, please? That'd be great. I want to go to first. And it was like, I remember tweeting something along the lines of, like, Where's, you know, baseball should do something, or the umpire should clearly have seen this, or whatever the case was. And it was at least an example that comes to mind of like Reds fan.

I didn't know there was Reds Twitter. And it was like, wow, this. Oh, natty sports, man. Sure. But that was, that was one that happened to me about five.

Here's a tweet I just got. It's unrelated to this. I want to bring it up. Bart Winkler Show. Love your show.

But the Green Bay Packers, as the only NFL team owned by mere commoners, it's just not true. For the past five years, the Browns have owned Joe Burrow and the Bengals, with Miles Garrett the majority owner. See what I did there? Who's tweeting me that at three? I'm gonna say, not really.

Okay. Why is anyone tweeting that? Never. I said Not really. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Not really. No really at all.

Now I gotta be careful, my Twitter is so much more professional with my new logo now. Hmm. Yeah. I thought about getting the blue check again. You would have made some money on this Haliburton tweet.

I just can't support Elon. It's the Bart Winkler Show on the Infinity Sports Network. Plus I'm trying to make I'm getting Zuckerbucks. Zuckbox, how? I don't know, they gave me like a bonus each month as a content creator, so I'm trying to put I'm stealing posts from the nostalgia Twitter feed and putting them up on my Facebook feed.

I did notice that. I wonder what he's doing. I need one account that's like an engagement farm account.

So I've chosen Facebook. Hmm. It's my show account. It's my show account. It's not my personal page of which I do nothing, although I think I did rip off like I was on the toilet drunk, and I was like, oh, I know all these people, friend, friend, friend, friend.

Yeah. You know, all right, moving on. It's one of those nights. Moving on. Um Related.

But unrelated. I'll wear the free shirt. when the owners wear the free shirt. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm.

I'll go first. I'd like to go first on that one. You go first. I went first the last time. I almost said I was going to go first because I'm excited.

Go, Bart. I am very pro the shirt giveaway. I would like to use two analogies that I used yesterday on my live show: putting on the free shirt is like people at a Wedding Just go on the damn Why if there's any of if there's ever a time to get on the dance floor? It's a wedding. Who gives a fuck?

You don't, you don't like no one's gonna think that you're in. No one, it's like, oh, yeah, you're here. No one's like, Oh, I did you, did you see Kyle dance at the wedding? He's bad at dancing. By the way, I do I do in fact sit on the sidelines and judge dancers at dance at but go ahead.

Well that I mean, I think we all could have pinpointed that on you. And then the other thing is. We live We live in I'm trying to think of a way to say, like, Wisconsin, like couponskin. I'm trying to say something like that. We love free shit.

So we go to a game and we get free shirts. There's if there's a shirt on your seat. No bueno. If there's a shirt that's coming out of a fucking cannon... With the Bucks in the tiniest legal logo ever, and then Gruber across the back.

You will You will sacrifice young children's lives jumping over them. For these shirts.

So just put on the shirts. But look, if the owners aren't going to wear the shirts, then fuck the whole thing. Gruber was there in a suit and tie, like, hey, buddy. We all know you have a professional job. We see you on TV every seven fucking seconds.

You don't need to wear a suit and tie. On the courtside seat. You're going to a Bucs game. Put on the fucking shirt that you probably helped sponsor. Or maybe that was the thing.

These weren't Gruber shirts, so it was a protest. You go to any goodwill in this town. It's like Rogers, Jersey.

Softball team sponsored by Goodwill. Rogers Jersey. Buck shirt from Gruber. Ah, Gruber, I meant to say. I meant to say.

Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, uh Yeah, if the owners first of all, The only reason that the whole shirt thing is a big argument is because people. Have decided strongly not to wear the shirts.

So I don't think. Grant, you might agree with this. The argument isn't so much. I mean, it looks cool when everybody wears them, but the argument isn't so much. Guys, we need to wear the shirts.

The argument is You're taking a stance against something stupid. Just fucking do it and stop thinking you're so cool. But, however, I think you also said. That you do agree. If the owner won't wear it.

through the whole thing.

Well Lazari Wore the 24 shirts. Eden laughs stupid, though. You know, Granto, it sounds like you and I are about to strongly disagree on this. You gotta wear the shirt. You gotta wear the shirt, Edens.

Make it a cutoff. Until they do, I'm not fucking wearing it. That's so dumb. That's the dumbest. That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard.

No. The owners should wear them because if you're going to sit courtside and be a fan, I will. Don't tell me what to do. If the owner is going to be a fan, the owner has decided I'm going to the game and I'm sitting, I'm not sitting in a suite, I'm not watching this remote. I'm taking seats away from fans.

Then you should wear the shirt. Yes. But under no reasonable circumstances should a fan sitting in the 200s be like, is the owner wearing them?

Well, then I would never. That's fucking dumb. That's so dumb. Like, you need the owner to lead the way. The owner should wear them.

Yeah. No, Grant, this is called principle, motherfucker. If they're going to put up marketing videos, the four steps of how to put on your shirt. And the and the the face of the team from it won't do it, fuck you. This is so dumb.

This is this is so also i don't want your free shirt First off, let me start there. I don't want your free shirt. I don't want it. Why? I just don't want it.

It's not, I don't want it. What's wrong with you? You do look better. Is it so hard to just participate in something? Is it just so hard?

Hey! It's just not my thing. I don't want it. Um I didn't ask for it. And I'm going to take a principled stand on this one.

Okay. I just by the way, I'm going harder at this than I was going to just because I can tell it's irritating you. I'm going to keep poking.

Well, no, and my frustration is with you. I'm watching the Bucks game last night. And they do these Crowd shots. And there's some guy in a black polo shirt. And I'm just thinking, like, what kind of douchebag do you have to fucking be to be like, no, I'm not simply going to put on the shirt that everyone else is wearing?

Like what? What is in your brain? That causes you to be that way.

Now, here's the thing: though, it is always, correct me if I'm wrong, Bart, you were there for game one. It is always an extra large, right? I think my in-season tournament was a large. Or I think they had extra larges and. They had, there were different shirts available, but you can't.

Regardless, like in the pro shop, they have multiple sizes of every option. But when you get it on your chair, it's like, here's the one size.

So, Grant, to defend the person who might not have been wearing it. It might have You guys have to watch that. It was the best side eye I've ever received in my life. I'm gonna defend this random fan and say, What if it didn't fit? This discourse, and this is why I got this.

Oh my god.

Oh, you're saying so you could have worn your own white shirt. Oh my. My God. These are all the little side conversations that stem from none of these conversations need to happen. These are all ridiculous.

Well, what if you're overweight and it doesn't fit?

Well, you could always just bring a white shirt from home. It's a fucking free shirt. Just put it on your body when you're standing at the game. None of these conversations, none of these takes need to be had. None of these concerns are real.

It's just dumb. And it like, yeah, it doesn't affect the team's ability to win, but it looks bad. It looks bad. It looks bad. on television when other people of other teams turn it on they're like what the And then at halftime, all the seats are empty starting the third quarter.

It just makes us look very. JV. The third quarter thing, just like when the Miami Heats start a game. And The arena, at least the television viewing, is like maybe half full. I totally agree with you on the third quarter thing: the start of the third quarter, the start of the game.

Um Like to use the heat the Miami heat example. That looks bad. But it's hard. At halftime, it's hard to do anything. It is hard.

Just going to the bathroom and buying one can of something. I agree. It is. It's only five minutes. You miss.

Yeah. You can't get back there.

So we advocate for longer half times. Which sucks for the people watching at home on television. It's catered to the television audience, which. Understandable.

So is the NFL, right? I and I like that about the NFL, but it does suck for the people in the arena. Yeah. Yeah. Tell her.

Harrow? It's closer. Euro, Euro. I hear, here's one of those, you'll laugh. I I've heard it both ways.

But I think it's hero, but some people do say hero, and I'm like, what? I called him Tyler Hero until he left Wisconsin, then I called him Harrow 'cause uh he doesn't deserve to be a hero to me. Yeah. Here's one I wasn't planning to ask, but I think this would be another. fun one that I Yeah.

Grant and I for sure might strongly disagree.

So maybe I don't know what Bart's takes. Nathan Marzian, I saw this tweet from him the other day. I don't know if this is a bad take, but in my opinion, you should not be attending a playoff game if you are planning on just relaxing and watching the game. That's what the regular season is for. Going to a playoff game should be for the purpose of helping the team win by being engaged.

To that, Nathan, I say, mm-mm. I'm watching the game. I'm gonna watch the game how I watch the game. Um Um that that's I'm there to wait.

Well, maybe there's a middle ground, but like. A playoff time, a playoff game is not the time to be like. Oh, geez, Peterson, I gotta nail this last client down, and this is gonna be the ticket to get him to sign our multi-year contract. Is the breakout? I'm not saying I would be simultaneously working if that's what you're saying, but.

I don't know. Maybe it's because I spent too many years in a press box, but I watch games studiously. I'm not saying it's a good thing. but it's how i watch and it's not it clearly isn't going to watch and like participate I wouldn't not participate. I'm not like actively.

I'm not going to make a public stand like I am against. I'm not wearing the fucking shirt until the owner does. That's my principle. That one's different. But I just don't watch sports like that.

So. I think there's a lot of discussion. You know what? My ticket should go to someone who's going to be a more active participant because it's going to help the team. Like, I don't think that that's fair at all.

Some people enjoy things differently.

Some people heard a concert. Here's the thing with the fans. It's not. It's not a certain type of person going, it's not a certain. Mindset, or well, maybe it is a little bit.

What it is, is. We have become accustomed now, crazily enough, to play off games. And a first-round playoff game doesn't have the same juice. That it used to. Um However, there's another part of that.

Some fan bases That doesn't matter.

Some fan bases take a severe amount of pride in making sure that every playoff game and every game that they attend that they are a part of the action. And Milwaukee, Wisconsin. This is not just a Bucks thing. This is a. This is a.

We do not, we're not, we're so, we got, see, that's, I never understand this. We're so proud of our teams. We're so proud of our teams. We wear Brewers' polos to weddings and church. Yeah, when we go to a Brewers' game, we're like I don't want to cheer in public.

Are you crazy? When you're actually at the thing. That you proclaim to love so much. It's. I don't get it.

I don't understand it and it bothers me. You've moved crowds. Paul's muted. What's gotten into Paul today? First of all, more fires.

He's jumping in more often. Yeah. Follow like, yeah, follow Paul. This is the Paul episode. Mm.

I don't want it to be because I think all the things I've said, I'm in the extreme minority. And I think there's going to be people who are like, what an asshole. I don't like this guy. I feel like my takes are divisive to the point that it's going to be like, I don't want to, ugh, screw this guy.

Okay. Within reason. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think you should have to be screaming at the top of your lungs the whole game, but I don't think you should get to sit down and be angry that others also won't sit down. You know what I mean?

Oh, that's fair. Oh, you know what? Good middle ground. Yeah, within reason. But I do think you should go to a playoff game.

With the intention of this is a playoff game, let's bring it a little extra tonight, even if it means you're not taking your shirt off and. screaming at the top of your lungs from opening tip to the final buzzer. Like, I I mean, and again, I I honestly, I think I'm growing into my age because I would have been this way 20 years ago. I don't, like, if the guy next to me is screaming his head off. I would be pissed.

Well, if it's just him screaming, the idea is everyone's yelling. It's a sporting event, it's a competition. Yeah. Again, within reason, within reason. I think you found a common I think you found a good middle ground.

Yeah, but I think for the most part, that's a Marzian W. Of the green and growing podcast with Steve Sparky Pfeiffer. But overall, you come with it as a W. I mean, I. I want that to be true.

So removing myself. Yes, I want it to be louder. On TV, like as a TV viewer, it's more fun if it's loud, and it probably does benefit the home team and the bucks if that is the case. But Bart, one of your many catchphrases is: I'm not here to tell you how to fan. But I just think I just think some people enjoy things in different ways.

Our crowd, our crowd stink. They stick. I'm telling you, game one was good. That's all I know. I was there.

Game one was good. You were up in the cheapies in game two. A lot of people were uh shitting on the Bucks because. A lot of fans left when they were down 20. Dude, they don't know Tuesday night Milwaukee traffic like I do.

You gotta get out of there if you're gonna get to bed on a normal hour.

So I have no problem with that. Also, Grant, I don't know what you did. I know Bart was actively working, so he did not turn off his TV. I. I turned it off with like five minutes to go.

I'm not going to, I don't want to subject myself to any more of this misery.

So I did the television equivalent of. Walking out. with five minutes to go. How much would you pay a guy to come and fix one piece of siding on your house? Here we go.

I heard a little bit about this. Here we go. Here we go. Because I tried to get a ladder up there and I couldn't do it. All right.

Well, how much would you pay for one piece of siding? Just to literally rip it off? No, to reattach it. It's going to take them 15 minutes. Hundred bucks.

It was gonna say like two fifty or less. $100, I think, is good. I got a $250 quote, and I'm like, fuck that. But I do know from past home renovation experiences. If climbing a tall ladder is involved, it is a upcharge.

Because of the danger, which I get. Isn't it like nine feet in the air? If that's all it is, then that would be different. Yeah. No, it's not it's like ten.

Maybe 15. Is it like as tall as when they climb the ladder for ladder matches where it's like, I don't know if you've ever seen a ladder match live, Bart, but the ladders are not like the belts, like you could jump and grab them. They're not very high. I had a guy come out once. See, this is the problem, because I had a guy come out once.

And reattach another piece of siding. As he was here, there was like a 10-minute rainstorm. and he won't just wait it out. He went He got on the ladder. It rained for 10 minutes.

He's up there. I thought he was going to die. And then he left, and I'm like. What's the damage? You know, 'cause I'm in the Midwest.

And he goes Oh yeah, it has been momenti $65. Oh, wow.

So this guy almost died. For sixty-five bucks to fix your shit. I remember that story. Yeah, it's a classic one. That's that's not an A-side story, but it's in the collection.

I don't think I know that one.

Well, there's another part to it. My neighbor came out and watched this horror. And she looked at me like What are you making this man do? Your neighbor watched this horror? Horoor.

Ah. Well done. All right. Here's a multifaceted one. The the Bucks Bucks, Brewers, Packers.

The team of those three who is built to have the most success over the next five years. What is it, your first day as a producer? What? Why don't we just talk about which team's going to win a championship next? Which team do you think is built the best?

Who's built the best? To win for the like, to have the most success over the next five years. The Packers. Is it that obvious? Because that's what it was to me, too.

And that's why I just want to gut check it.

Well, the Bucs are at the fucking bottom. But they could win. Like, I did the Bucs have the highest probability of winning a. All right, good question. We're sorry.

Yeah. So I would say, like, if I could only pick one of the three to win a title in the next five years, I think the one most likely to do it. is the box. Because they have this year, I think they have the current season. If Yanis can come back, and then I think they have next year, and then I think it's like over.

Like, so they I mean and I don't think they're gonna win. I mean I think this year got derailed because of the injury. Not that they were playing well. Not that the regular season matters. Players that get injured typically don't get less injured as they get older, though.

That is a thing. But who are we talking about? Where where do you want to start?

Well which is Giannis? Dame. Brooke Brooke is I tell you, here's a small little side take. I don't know that there's an athlete that I've played for one of my teams that I've enjoyed more and talked about less than Brooke Lopez. What a fucking treat it is to turn on my TV and to watch him.

Play for my team, but yeah, they're all getting older. And All these role players suck. They suck, all of them. There's not one of them that I like. Other than zombie occasionally.

Yeah, but you know what, though? I'm going to go. Full. full-on anti-bobby. I just I'm I'm I don't He takes shitty shots, and that killed him last night.

He's such an inefficient player. He drives me f he like, like, some guys are just bad. Like, Crowder at this point, who used to be a very horrible, he's just bad now. And that's horrible. Like, that's different.

So, I'm not going to say, like, I hate watching him because he's just not good anymore. And that it is what it is. Like, Bobby just drives me crazy watching him play inefficient basketball. It just. Speak.

He ma he last night, he misses a dunk. Throws the ball out of bounds. He goes to the bench. Bobby, Bobby. You know what, though?

But to that point, I would say, like, to Bart's thing, like, that was good fanning. Right? Like, that was like, was it? I think it was. You know what I said the other day when Bobby, in the first quarter in game one, when Bobby was getting the ball, the crowd was like getting up on their feet, like, oh, he's going to do something.

It's like. Like we were treating him like he's Caitlin Clark. Yeah. Yeah. What are we doing?

It's Bobby Portis. The thought that I had. You almost got traded for Grant Williams. Yeah. Much to his dismay that it was even a possibility.

I think the thought that crossed my mind in watching him again last night was: I think if Bobby Portis thought. He was 60% as talented as he is, he'd be really good. But he over he has an overinflated sel sense of Value on the court, and so he does things that he shouldn't do. And if he just did the things that Are more in his wheelhouse, he would be a really effective. Beverly type player.

Beverly knows he's not that good and he needs to just be the hustle guy. It's awesome. Like, that's what you want. You want to do himself. Right, you want guys who play within themselves.

And Bobby, like, and you know, like, Grant, there'll be a Pistons game in November. I wonder if I would use that example. Like, where Bobby is really fun and he's the best player on the court because, you know, you're playing the fucking Pistons in November. But when it's playoff time, like, I just want him to say, like, oh, okay, like. I'm 70% as good as I think I am.

Cause then I think he'd be really good. Is that a weird, is that a weird sentence?

Well, no, his shot selection is terrible. Like he was passing up catch and shoot threes. They weren't wide open, but they weren't not open. He'd pass up a catch and shoot three to drive in four feet. Back somebody down and then take a turnaway jumper.

And in this series, it's going to kill him even more because bad shot selection is going to lead to more missed shots, which is going to let the Pacers go run.

So, in this series, more than just about any other matchup, like the Bucks need to. be really really good and efficient with the shots they choose to take and then of course they need to make them So Bobby killed him the other night. Look, I don't know that there's a player on this roster that's more detrimental than Malik easily. I'm s I'm oh wow. I am so, he's not a winning player.

He's not. He loses focus every five seconds. He's a goldfish. He's a golden retriever out there. He is a goldfish.

Anytime there's a breakdown, it's him. Every single time. He's a one-dimensional player. What's his one dimension? He's a good shooter.

When is that gonna come into play in the series? Is that at any point going to? He hit one in the fourth quarter of game one or the end of the third, beginning of the fourth. It's the same thing with Buddy Healed in the first couple games. Like, shoot, if shooters are cold, they're unplayable.

If single-dimension shooters. Can't shoot, they're unplayable. Healed has been unplayable. Beasley has been unplayable. If Beasley is a one-dimensional player, then Jay Crowder is a zero.

He has no dimensions. He is a zero. He's a half-dimensional. Like, he's still a rugged defender. I'm trying to think of a way to make a bunch of money.

Okay. I want to make a bunch of money really fast. Maybe I'm going to be a motivational speaker and I'm going to use that as the guideline. I'm going to sit in front of crowds with that shitty, stupid. Head mic, and I'm going to say, you got to look within yourself, guys.

What is your one dimension? What is your contribution to the world? Do you ever think about positions like that, like a motivational speaker or whatever? And do you ever just think, If they handed me a mic and I had to go out there and bullshit for 10 minutes, I could totally convince everyone that I am. Oh, yeah.

Oh yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of jokes. You say all the things. That you know are true, but you won't do yourself.

5 a.m. You gotta get up before the roosters.

Okay. You say shit like that. If you want to live like no one else, then you're going to have to live like no one else. Just regurgitate Dave Ramseyisms, too. Yeah.

Pay off your credit cards. Yeah. Don't play Malik Beasley. Never Malik Beasley. Hi, Davey.

I got a slight problem. Oh, yeah, what is that? I make $700,000 a year.

Okay. I've got $9 million in debt. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Well why? Oh no, I just bought a loot a new Lamborghini. Maybe don't do that. You're going to go back to the dealership tomorrow, see what you can do about that. And then you're going to ask for a job there.

Yeah. I want you working about 80 to 90 hours a week. It's going to be hard. You're going to have a shitty life for the next 35 years. Yeah.

But you'll have one summer before you die. Where you can enjoy your life. The only way that you see the inside of a restaurant is if you're working there. I'm talking beans and rice, rice and beans. Those are literal quotes I've heard him say.

Oh, yeah. No, I know. I know you know. Like, that was. There are all the hits.

That wasn't hypothetical, that was a direct poll quote. Uh so put a stamp on it. Like you get a million dollars if you're right. No, no, you get a million dollars if you're right. One of these teams that wins a championship in the next five years, it would be the.

Packers. Packers. I want to bet on the team. It's on the come up. Not the team that's trying to hold on at the top for dear life, flailing.

With one arm on the monkey bar, with all the limbs floating. Do you want to save box? But right now, I think I. I think the Packers will have more total success because I think, like, the fourth and fifth year of this five-year hypothetical, the Bucks have a very, very high likelihood of being. Below average non-playoff team, or like Bulls style, where you're fighting for the 10.

It could very much happen because Dame will presumably be gone or traded for whatever. And Giannis would be 33. Will he still be? I don't know. I think they could be.

Pretty bad in years four and five. Um But, okay, who's closer to winning a championship right now with how they're built? Pretend Yannis is healthy.

Well, the Bucs are in the playoffs. But, but kind of. I mean, they're 1-1 in the first round.

Well, it's April, so. No, but it just means. I mean, like, the way that they're. You guys are poo-pooing this. I think this is more interesting than what you're giving it credit for.

It is interesting. I'm enjoying this conversation. It's just I enjoy teaming up on people with Bard and. I feel like to be fair, I was doing it to you earlier, so that's that's only fair. Yeah, I'm a good swing voter.

Yeah. He's a real he's a walking Pennsylvania is what he is. I, with elections, do you ever get sick and tired? You know, we were talking about whether or not we just want the Bucs to lose. To just be over with it because we hate all this pressure.

I feel this as a voter in Wisconsin as well. I'm sick of determining elections. Can I move to a less consequential state? I hate it coming down to us. I'm sick of it.

You can just move a little bit south, Illinois, you'll be fine to do. I'm sick of the text messages. The text should just be. Hey man, can you vote for Trump? Or hey man, can you vote for Biden?

Instead of Hi. Great to reach out to you today. My name is Angela Davis with the Neighborhood Research Project. I want to tell you a story. In 1989, there was a young name, a young girl named Violet, and then she grew up.

Do I have your vote for Robert Kennedy Jr.? What the fuck? Anyways, I didn't sorry to bring up elections. What were you going to say, Paul? I'm so sorry.

I didn't get that text. No, before you said what you said, I was going to say, hey, Greg in Michigan, are you sure you want to share this? Oh, Karen Mack. I don't know who that is. I don't know who that is.

Greg's a pretty shitty caller, but every once in a while he'll throw in a random statement where it's just like, it's kind of funny that he threw that in there. Prayers out to KMAC. Yeah, just throwing throwing a stick of dynamite into the room as you leave the show. I'm a fan of that. I enjoy that.

Last question. We should at least briefly. I'm so excited for the draft. Like You were going to bring up the brewers. I'm like, can we just.

No, this Buck's torment is obviously. led to more emotions, but I'm I'm so excited for the draft. After last year's draft, which Is an incredible Packers draft class. Brian Gudekinst has earned your full... Unquestioned trust.

When it comes to draft picks and his draft philosophies. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. I am hesitant to give anybody my full unquestioned trust. In that regard, I feel like John Horse is someone we did, and then He is just fucking juggling fire sticks.

Yeah, he is. I mean, he doesn't I don't He is just Damian Lillard? You know, there's no plan anymore. And they're not. Yeah, I think that's I think that's fair.

Don't join the group that's just revising history as we move along. It's like, why did they trade for Dame? No, no, no, no, I'm not saying that. Nope, he's not. Yeah.

Why'd they hire Adrian Griffin?

Well, 'cause it was three choices and Giannis took Nick why was it three choices? Why was it so rushed? Why? And even though I was a proponent for it. Why didn't you just take a step back and look and be like, God, we need to fire Mike Budenhauser.

Or we had injuries the last two years. Why'd you just do that? I don't know. Why'd you hire? Why'd you fire?

Mike B Mike Budenhauser was not a house on fire firing. Jason Kidd was at the time.

Now he's like good, I guess, or some shit. Is he good? No. I don't know. Are you unintentionally telling me about last night's game, you ass?

No, no, no. But he's got the Mavs in the playoffs. Yeah, he does. He also has One of the five best players in the world, and one of the 15 best players in the world. And he has.

Kyrie also. Yeah. Because I was talking about Luca and PJ Washington, is what I was saying. Oh, okay, okay.

So, Bart, you won't give anyone your unquestioned confidence. Um Let's see if Bart can refine it.

Okay, no. I I think that Goody will have a good draft. And people keep asking me: who do you think the Packers will take? And I'm like, I got no fucking idea. Yes, yes.

Out of Duke? Mm-hmm. I don't even know, I don't even know the pool of which. Except for this Cooper Degene, but it's like DB Cooper. It's like fucking Coolamere.

The gene. Don't say Dijon. And I got a... I got a draft show to do. I got to be on the air during.

Do you need help with this? Because, like, the draft is. Oh, because I'm not leading the show.

So. I don't feel that much pressure. What value will you add if you don't even know? Oh, just classic Bart Charm.

Well Here's the thing about Graham Barton. He was a four-year starter and he's a decorated player. He did play center for a season, then they moved him out to tackle.

So that's, you know, positional versatility the Packers might like. Plays low to the ground. I mean, he gets a good advantage, but You know, he's probably projecting right now maybe a Sixth, fifth lineman spot. You play backup at a couple spots, but I don't know if I'm sold entirely. I'm going to be honest.

And that was your own thoughts and research? Yeah. Well, I've done extensive research on all these guys, obviously. I would give Brian Goetekins my unquestioned confidence. I would too.

He's a UWL man.

So I know he's made of the right stuff. Strike one, but yeah. Jesus Christ. He's cut from the right cloth. Right.

And obviously, great draft last year. I just think. Did you, I'm sorry, did you mention The weaknesses on Barton that his arm length is shorter than desired Uh he didn't get to the point. Matches his outside speed.

So he'll have to make some adjustments. But I mean, he'll be an above-average starter. It's just not like. It's just not like, you know, well, I mean, well, you did mention his short reach, and that's something that I left out, but his ability to recover and adjust is there.

So he makes up for it. Yeah. You know, will he get away with that at the NFL level? It's all about projection. Uh we have no way.

When Riley Leonard calls you the hardest worker on your team. Shit, fucking put the card in right now. He ends up on the ground too often. That's another problem. Why should I play on the ground?

I don't know. It's very Joel and beat of him. Yeah. Um I made more of an effort to say Joelle, too. You should.

I heard her say Joel a couple of times. I was going to text you. I didn't. No, I'm really saying Joelle. As you should.

Joel, 'cause I could say Joel. But I'm saying Joel. Joel Embiid. Joel Well that's how that sung. I do, and look, we might not need it.

I do have a serious conversation. Comment on Brian Gudekinston and his position. Please, this is a take of mine. I've been working this last couple of weeks. I'm very proud of this.

I think one of the biggest advantages in the NFL is a general manager. with job security. A guy who knows that he does not need to do the thing that's going to make him look good right now. Yes. Coming up in week one.

Oh, did you hear the guy? I had a guy Taj Seth on from Sumer Sports. I did. Taj is great. He was on with Bill last week.

So he's saying that the next edge Is GMs that are secure. Because there's a lot of GMs that aren't. And they don't care about future picks as much.

So the next edge in trading is acquiring You know, moving back a few spots, but then getting a first-round pick for next year. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. I wonder if he said that when he was on with Bill.

I don't think he was listening. I think he would have remembered if he would have echoed a take that I feel very strongly about. The other thing I do now is when I interview people, I just. Look at their Twitter feed and like see 20 things they said, and then I just ask them about that. I've been doing that for a long time.

It's good. I want to give them. Here's the thing: when you have a guest, like Eric Eager, quarterbacks aren't being drafted in the first round. You get to a certain point. It's just like, why are they in the second round?

Because he said that on You Better You Bet earlier today. You want to hang an 87 mile an hour slider right at the belt for your get. Like, what can you give them? And I knew that was some of these sports talk hosts are like, Let me try to trick this guy we fucking coarsed onto being on our show. He's getting up at an ungodly hour to do a 720 hit with us.

Let me fucking show him I'm smarter than him. No, no, no, no, no. This is you serve. You serve the meat. Yes.

Yeah. Grant knows. And you definitely did that when you were like.

So Kickers. You know, like you wouldn't you wouldn't toss them a kicker question unless you knew. With Certainty that he was prepared and recently discussing or tweeting about. Kicker drafting kickers If you could take the knowledge. that I feel a young Grant Bills has about the radio profession.

And just give like a little bit of it to all the sports radio PDs of the last 20 years. This business would be in a lot better place. I think he's very smart. You're very smart.

Well, that is that is appreciated. I um You got a lot of these idiots that are like... Oh. I can't do sales. I like sports.

I'll run that station.

Okay, go ahead. Just give it a try. Yeah, no, I just was in sales, but I and I like I went to five companies. Cardinals games last year, so. But Yeah, run sports.

I mean, at the end of the day, I mean, a sports talk station is really no different than just a bar where people like this. I mean, is this any different of a conversation that we would have? No, I'm shit. I'm gonna be done recording this. I'm gonna call a buddy.

I'm Basically, going to keep doing this. I mean, this, there's no on or off switch. That's that's what a lot of sports people don't understand: is the turning on of a mic is it's nothing more than a ceremony. There's no, I mean, this is just conversations that we have all the time, it's a formality, this microphone. Might as well be a lamp.

Okay. I also think I could masquerade as a program director for 10 or 15 minutes in a meeting. If you rolled me in, it's like, and this guy programs where, oh, yeah, I could.

Well, our station would be the best program director America's ever seen. Except for one minor flaw, I would not be able to fire anyone. Mm. Can't do it. Interesting.

Mm-hmm. You're weak. I'm weak. Did you hear the Skipper Liner conversation that came up last week? Skipper lighter.

Did I hear On my show. They talk about when I got fired from the island girl boat in La Crosse. Oh. Yeah, I got fired from Howie's on the cross and lacrosse. We've both been.

You got fired from Howie's? Yeah. Wh why?

Well I mean, do you want this to it's not a long story, I guess. I'd like to know why he got fired from. the shittiest bar with the best location. Wow, I think Holly's is fine. Um Everyone who works there thinks it's the most important building in the entire world.

Well, I was poor at it, first of all. I was bad. And then I went on spring break. I didn't think I was scheduled, but. I checked the schedule too early before it updated.

Great moment in my professional career. I got a call when I was in Panama City Beach and I answered the phone. And it's The g I was drunk. And my boss, Dave, or one of them, was like, Hey, it's Dave at Howie's. Where are you?

And I go, I'm in Florida. Where are you? And then I got I don't think um That was good, so. It let me go for the best. I got to work more on radio.

And look where I am now. Um All right. I'm exhausted of content for this period of time. I now not have to get the thrill of a lifetime to go talk to Zach Gelb. He'll probably ask me draft questions, and I'm going to just do the whole.

What's his name, Graham Barton? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm just going to do that. I'm going to do it. Breach is an issue.

Not going to win any length battles. I also agree with your assessment earlier, Grant. Like on the ground too often is definitely one of my top three concerns.

Well, games I've played on the ground. This isn't wrestling. Games I've played on the ground. Yeah, that's It's concerning.

Now, when you guys were talking about draft, you weren't talking about the WWE draft, were you? Starting Friday. It was not. I didn't know that was a thing. I mean Did he go to Raw or SmackDow?

Like it. Who cares? And then really show up on the other show with no explanation randomly? Probably still yes. Yeah.

All right, boys. Final predictions for the Bucks series. If Giannis doesn't come back, they are going to lose in six. They'll lose in six if he doesn't come back. Yeah.

That sucks. Oh well. But I'm not saying we'll have to worry about. Yeah. Sorry.

I don't know. Watching the Knicks obliterate the Pacers would be fun, though. And I think the Knicks are mostly overrated, but God, they play hard. And, you know, they're basically the only team in the league that does.

So we should celebrate the Knicks. They play hard. They work hard. Let's, yeah. Yeah.

And quite frankly, like who's really talking about them? No. Only everybody. Oh, yeah, I love that too. All right, nice little abbreviated Midwest goodbye.

Grant Bills, Paul Emmig, thank you guys. Be sure to like and subscribe. This podcast is still happening.

Someone just asked me that today. I'm like, oh, I thought you were listening, but never mind. Um okay, guys, thank you. Bye bye. Thank you.

Bye. Yeah.