Our Not Quite 100th Extravaganza

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Good morning, everybody. I am Bart Winkler. Heavy Groundhogs Day. It's February 2nd. Is when this episode is publishing.

And it is. Not our hundredth episode. I was mistaken. I've been talking this week about how I think my 100th episode is going to hit on Thursday. Coming up, we do this episode, but that's Paul Emmet's copyright.

So we just change it to like, oh, no, oh yeah. Matt in the falls offered to host. He's going to host. And we did this on Tuesday. He did a great job.

He had great questions. He did a great job. Toby was my special guest. We were supposed to record this on Monday night. And Tim got carjacked and then we couldn't.

Do it.

Now, Tim's okay. I do feel like I was a little too hard on him the other day. Um But that's uh That's just something we're just gonna have to live with. From now on. Is somebody got carjacked, and I was a huge douche about it.

And if I got carjacked, I would probably break down and cry. On a live stream. on YouTube. right after it happened.

So I'm glad Tim's okay. That's first and foremost. With it not being the 100th, I don't really know when the 100th. The reason I got confused is because this is the 100th. Posting on this channel.

I don't know if I count the Clay Thompson episode. By the way, I interviewed Clay Thompson, no big deal. And go listen to that. But also, there's like a 45-second trailer you may have accidentally heard. Like, I'm Bart Wigler, I love talking to Wisconsin sports.

And on this, and that counted as a show.

So I was counting that.

So the hunters episodes either Friday or Monday or whatever, and you know, who cares? I think the fact that we're close to this milestone. Is cause for celebration enough. Nearly almost one hundred episodes. of a podcast that I'm doing.

in my basement most of the time. You know, when the. Layoffs happened. I think a lot of the younger guys were shocked. I just figured: look, this is part of the radio business.

And at some point, I was going to get laid off from some job sometime, somewhere. I took some time to try to figure out what was next. And I really am doing the podcast because. Of people saying that they still needed an outlet to talk more sports. And I don't want to get into the whole thing about what I always get into, but.

I think there are still like There are, it's not just me, but there are. Like So I'm I'm a radio guy. I love the radio. But I think what radio needs to realize is While it's easy to just turn on your car. And turn on the radio, and that eliminates a step.

Like, I've talked about this why I don't like, you know, like streaming services because I got to hit a different button and then a different. Although I did stream Black Panther too today, and it was awesome. First time I saw it. Very good. I I think that what what people on the radio need to do is not take.

their spot on the air for granted. Yes, you're on the radio. Yes, the Packer game was on the night before, and now I get in my car, and there's you. But I still think that every day you need to earn. that listenership.

And I feel that here. I mean, if I was half-assing this. And not trying to get guests on, and not trying to do fun stuff, and you know, not having people interact and join. I'm just trying to have fun while talking sports. Then like you won't come back for the next episode tomorrow So I If I ever do go full-time radio again.

It just and I think that the people that are full-time radio now just need to remember. Yes. You have a leg up. Because people get in their car. And you're on.

But also maybe you don't. One of the reasons that I thought the podcast could work is. A lot of people Listen to our old show as a podcast anyway. Or on their phone anyway. The signal was so terrible.

That you listen on the phone anyway.

So, if you're already used to that, and it's not just me, but there's so many good podcasts out there. And especially for Packers fans. Like, I know that you guys pretend to hate Peter Bukowski, but you look at every tweet he ever sends. Probably because it's hard to ignore. I mean, you can unfollow and block, and he could go private, Elon style.

You're still going to see his tweets. He tweets so much. But his show is good. Andy Herman's packaday is good. The game on Wisconsin guys are doing good things.

You know, even a guy like Mike Wickett is still busting his ass doing Packer stuff. Once a week. And that's still content that you can go find. And I'll have to talk to him soon. Who did I mention?

The Eurostep guys and their own network. Ty, who helped bring me into the Blue Wire. thing So there's so many podcasts. Out there that you can find. And maybe for you, what you find on the radio is the best option, and that's great too.

But I think that I think that everybody needs to realize that there's more content than ever. And you have to earn your content. And if this starts sucking. You guys will let me know. I mean, I will be very aware.

when the people have decided that this has started to Suck. There's one big regret that I have in these almost 100 episodes, and that's that I never did that Bart Winkler hurry-up. I will have to try to do that. I do want to have a. Half serious, half joking.

It'll be a joke if it fails. It'll be serious if it succeeds, like a bar outing on some random night.

So I do want to do that relatively soon. I really think that the main goal is to ramp up for the Bucs playoffs. I know that Come Bucks playoffs time. I think a lot of people are going to throw on a post-game show or try to do something. But there's a lot of you that join me every night after most Bucks games, maybe not on the weekends.

Well, sometimes Sundays, but I think that We're establishing a little community. Of post-game. All right, let's talk Bucks a little bit and see what else happens. And I think that come bucks playoff time, that's going to be. That's going to be when we shine.

When we all rock and roll, I want to thank everybody that's come on so far.

So, I'm going to thank people for like two minutes if you want to get ahead to the. Funding games. Um I want to thank like Tim Shea. I couldn't do this without him. Toby Altizer and Sam and Evan and Horvod and Imig and Grant.

All these guys that jump on all the time. You know, the guys that jump on the Tonys and the Matts and the Q's and the Austins. Jake. You know, again, I'm going to say all these guys and not say one. Basement, Dave now, Jim in Chicago, you know, big Ron in Jersey.

Anybody that's jumped on once. It's been like I love when you jump on. David Cudahy, Badger Bloodies. You know, my Miller Park Minute guy, jump on. At any time.

Like if you're watching and you see, oh, Jake's on again. Why does he get to be on? Oh, Manta, what? Just be on. I got the link out there.

It's for everybody. I know sometimes it might be like weird. Like what am I doing now? I'm talking to these guys on YouTube. But I think it's been really fun.

And I appreciate everybody who gives the time to contribute, whether it's that way, the comments, Twitter. or even just watching from afar. and silently. I do want to thank the sponsors. I don't know that I make it to 100 without them, especially happy place hemp.

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So I'm really excited about the website. and what it has to offer. Got to thank my wife and kid. They're letting me try to. Do this.

You could So I mean like uh Wednesday, I went to the doctor. And then I watch Black Panther 2. My kid didn't need to go to daycare. We sent him to daycare.

So, thanks for their support. as my wife's upstairs right now busting her ass. And I'm talking about uh Whatever I'm talking about.

So, just some things I wanted to say because I do think this has been, and I've said it before, but. This has been the most fun I've had. in my career. Just this kind of, you know, wackiness freedom. It's been really fun.

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Um I do think sometimes like If I was on the air. What would the show have been?

So, two nights ago, we did a Bucks post game, mostly Bucks. You know, we talked about Tim's story. On the radio, that's like 45 minutes and I and I I got another three hours to fill.

Well, on Wednesday morning, we would have had plans to talk box, probably some Packers offseason. Probably some writer. Maybe we knew someone in Philly or Kansas City that could talk. whatever with us. Probably talk Sean Payton.

What would you trade for Mat LaFleur? You know, stuff like this. Which coach would get the biggest trade haul? Actually, I might save some of these. For Saturday, CBS Sports Radio Saturday, 11 to 4.

I do have to come up with a lot of these topics. And I might hit a Brady one on Saturday, but I'm glad I didn't have to today. Like breaking news is fun when it's something interesting and fun. Like, oh my God, we're sitting here talking about nothing. And the Packers signs a Darius Smith and Preston Smith.

What? They're signing free agents. What? But if I had a show planning, we were talking Bucks, and we had Tom Brady retired. I'd have to be like, oh my God, now we have to talk about Tom Brady.

I mean, we didn't, you never have to do anything, but like Mike and the Mad Dog, this big reunion on first take. They're stuck all of a sudden talking about Tom Brady for an hour when they probably had so much else planned. Tom Brady retiring. Everyone thinks it's official this time. I would tend to agree.

If he fakes it this way, I mean, it's so early that. You got to think if you're going to do it this early, you're pretty confident. I think a good Rationale was sometimes you have to Do the thing you think you're done doing to know you're done doing it. And he probably wanted to retire last year, and then he just had to play one more year. And he's like, okay, I do need to retire now.

I can walk away. Started to play until he was fifty. But he did retire. Obviously, it's so good. Like, I don't want to do that topic.

Some topics that I think interesting. How much would Tom have won in Green Bay? Would Aaron have won in New England? I think that's an interesting topic. I don't want to do that today.

I do think it It does Make So everybody's first thought was, and this is when you realize. How unfunny you are. Because Tom Brady retires, and one of the first things I think of is. Oh, is he promoting that 80 for Brady movie? Oh my God.

I'm going to say that on tomorrow's podcast. It's going to be so funny. I'm going to be like, Tom Brady, the likes people will go through to. To uh Advertise their movie. This is all just a ploy for 80 for Brady.

By like nine o'clock on Wednesday morning. A hundred people said it.

Some of the least funny people I know were saying it.

So it really makes you feel sometimes. You know, like I feel like in the old days Pre-internet, you could be around with your buddies, group of five, say a joke. They think you're so original and so funny.

Now, sometimes if I like have a joke, I search on Twitter, a million people have already said it.

So either there's just not many jokes to be made or Probably more likely I'm not as funny as I thought I was. And that's okay. It's just something you gotta. deal with. But now with the Rogers part of this.

Everyone says, oh, Rogers isn't going to retire now. You know, because Brady. And he doesn't want to share a A Hall of Fame stage with With Tom Brady. I don't know if that plays into it. I don't think that Rodgers was going to retire anyway.

Someone that's going to share a stage with Tom Brady. And I'm trying really hard to like this guy because he's going to be in our lives forever. Tom Brady retires. JJ Watt quote tweets. Greatest of all time.

No question, no debate. It's been an honor and a privilege. Go to Moji. The newly retired group meets on the golf course every morning at 10. Drinks are on the new guys, so bring your wallet.

Like, does he think that's funny? Honestly. At least, like, I just told you there's a gate. I can understand what the gate is. between if it's funny or not, and I realize it's not funny.

I understand what the game JJ Watt thinks that's funny. And then people. Like say, oh JJ, you're so funny. And, like, people in the NFL that still want access. Oh, JJ, oh, always making us laugh.

I told you this guy's not going anywhere. JJ Watt, Tom Brady retired. You're still going to see Tom Brady a little bit, but it'll be like in cameo appearances. JJ Watt is going to try to cameo on everybody's thing. He's trying to cameo on Tom Brady's retirement.

JJ Watt is going to be There will there will be a night. There will be a night.

Sometime in the next four years. Where J.J. Watt will be on special forces on Fox. And then the next hour, he'll be on Mass Singer. He'll be on both of them.

You flip over to ABC's on Dancing with the Stars. If you flip over to NBC, he's guest hosting the tonight show. He's gonna be everywhere. JJ Watt is going to be everywhere.

So just be ready. I'm just warning you. I'm like the scientist in that movie, Don't Look Up. That says a meteor is coming and it's going to hit Earth, and everyone's like, Ah, no, no big deal. I'm telling you.

The JJ Watt. meteor is coming. And if you think like Ryan Seacrest is everywhere, if you think Dwayne The Rock Johnson is everywhere. JJ Watt. is going to be everywhere.

There will be a Watt plus streamer in the next 10 years. He's going to somehow be James Bond, take over for Tom Cruise. Probably be in Black Panther 3. Guy's gonna be everywhere.

So, anyway, Tom, he retired. But what I do think is that this ups the stakes for Aaron Rodgers. And if they are going to trade Rodgers. Like now the Packers have to trade Rodgers, don't they? Everybody thought Tom Brady was going to the Raiders, and I think that's where he would have ended up.

But now the Raiders are like, oh shit, did we bring back Derek Carr? And even if they don't. really want Rogers or won't be that aggressive. Other teams that would, like the Jets. Or whoever are going to be like, well, now there's more teams in the mix, one less quarterback out there.

More teams in the mix, less quarterbacks to go for. We have to up our annie.

So I think the Packers I just If they don't trade Rogers. I wonder what kind of haul they're going to be leaving on the table. There's no way they should be able to get what Denver gave up for Russell Wilson. But having Brady retire. Almost opens that back up.

I mean, if you look at the free agents out there and the guys available. Like, Jimmy G is a free agent. Like, if the Jets are between Jimmy G, Derek Carr, and Aaron Rodgers. I'd rather take my chances that Rogers still has it. And and has a revenge ear.

Which we've seen him do Then go for Derek Carr or Jimmy G.

Now it's just going to be what is the price and what can Goody get. Roger's still in the news for a bunch of stuff. I don't really care what he says at this point. I just want to know what the Packers are going to do. And that's something.

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Without further ado, Matt in the Falls hosting mm-hmm. or a knockoff of it with Toby Altizer. We thought it's our 100th episode. Either way, I gave my acceptance speech. Love you all.

Uh Matt and Toby and me. As part of our 100th episode extravaganza. I'm going to bring in Toby Altizer. Who Has seen a lot of change over these 100 shows. Yeah.

He moved. I did. Across the country. to Washington, D.C. Officially part of the DMV.

I know I claimed it. When I was in Milwaukee, I didn't grow up in the DMV. I grew up in Virginia. Not part of the DMV though. Nobody knows enough.

about the area to question you.

Well, that's why I did it.

So. I felt like I could do that. I can't do that now. Like when I go. Overseas.

Which I never do. I say, oh, I'm from Chicago. Oh, you say that? No. No, I said, no, it's a real American thing to say, I'm from Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, to like a German.

They don't know what Wisconsin is. That's what Fond du Lac means. Fond du Lac. And there is Matt in the falls. Hello, hello.

And for a 100th episode, Matt, you've had a big impact on this show. It means a lot. The green screen. Yeah The ring light. Oh, so this is all courtesy of him.

I didn't realize that. Yeah, man. You missed that whole thing? That was... It was a monumental Well done, Matt.

Makes him look good. Yep. Yeah. The short version is that he's given us so many hours of free radio entertainment. I thought that $75 worth of equipment was a fair exchange.

Yeah, that's nice. That's nice. And now Matt's Fortnite buddy just keeps flooding money on my YouTube lives. It's true. Which is really awesome.

So He's a generous guy. Thank you.

So, no for the next couple of weeks. Paul's on assignment.

So Matt in the Falls stepped up and said, you know what, I'll guest host. And I thought that was a very good idea. As the sugar daddy of the show, I thought I would totally allow him to do that. Um We're not going to call it mm-hmm. Because Paul's got copyrights on that.

So we'll just call it oh yeah or oh no. I don't know what the questions are. I think. Uh I trust that Matt came up with some good ones. We'll see.

So God. All right, Matt, take it away. Rumors are swirling around the NBA trade market, and the latest one suggests the Milwaukee Bucks would trade the package of Jordan Wara. George Hill and second-round draft pick considerations to the Phoenix Suns for none other than. Jay Crowder.

Should the Bucks make that move? Oh yeah. Or oh no.

Now We're recording this on Tuesday. I'm putting this out on Thursday. What if he gets traded by then? Should I just cut this or leave it in? Oh, leave it in.

Oh, you can just leave it in. Leave it. You'll know how we feel regardless of what really happens. We're set in stone.

So to that trade package, I would have to say, oh yeah. Cause that's nothing. Wara has not contributed. Like he should. Abaka.

Like all of a sudden, just came to work one day and said, I hate this, everyone here. I don't know what's going on there. And then George Hill, like George Hill can still give you some meaningful minutes in the regular season, but in the playoffs we saw last year, he disappeared. Nobody cares about the picks.

So Jay Crowder, I would think, can be more helpful. than that package. Can be helpful. I'm still not. Like I said yesterday, I think a very Bart thing I realized.

Is I A lot of times my argument is. It's okay if you do that. Just don't do that like this. You know, it's okay if you think that just like I'm always like. judging the level of how people Perceive something or want something.

Six months of Jay Crowder lusting is too much. It's Jay Crowder. Yeah. And I don't want to dip into the Grayson Allen pool. You know, I don't want to, there's a proposed trade I read the other day from.

Dan Favali, that included Joe Ingalls and Marshawn Bocham. I don't want to trade these guys. But if that's the trade package. I'll say, oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to go right along with that.

I mean, if you're not giving up anyone meaningful, the only guy that you mentioned in there that actually plays for the Bucs at this point, it seems like, is George Hill. And I could live without seeing George Hill ever again in a Bucks uniform. Like he's been nice, he's helped out at points, but he's not helping out anymore. And like Bart said, come playoff time. You're going to trust him with minutes like you did last year?

I think we saw how that went.

So I don't think I'm going to give up anything in George Hill. The other players, I mean, Jordan Wara. I can't stand watching him in a Bucks uniform. He just doesn't fit anymore. It doesn't seem like so.

Getting rid of him is fine. And then, like you said, second-round picks.

So, as long as you don't have to give up more than that for the time being, I'd absolutely do it.

Now, if you had to include someone like a Grayson Allen to do a three-team deal, then you'd have to think about it. But The deal that you laid out, Matt, absolutely. Oh yeah, I'm doing that. And now, Matt, you get the answer.

Well, I do agree. I'm always hesitant just because I think Jay Crowder is declining. I was looking at his numbers. Shot under 40% from the field last year when he did play, and now he's holding out.

So I don't like that kind of attitude for our Bucks. I think we're better than. Our team is better than that. We have higher morale, that sort of thing. Nobody would hold out for us.

But I thought there were chemistry issues. Oh yeah, Bobby Portis and Giannis are just. Just they're in the doghouse with each other. Is the surge thing really? From that video where they Serge was on a cooking show, he was doing his cooking show.

And I think he was doing it with Drew. And they called Yannis, and Yannis said, You're just a role player, you just set screens. I can see that actually. He hasn't played since that. That's hilarious, though.

Surge is, you know, if you're sore about not playing at all and somebody says that, somebody like Giannis that has pull and that people are going to listen to and laugh at, then. He could get pretty butthurt about that. I mean, he also woke Giannis up from his nap, and we all know you don't do that. Yeah, you can't wake Giannis up from naps. He's gotta rest.

He's gotta rest that knee. And you if you get in the way of that, then Look out. All right.

Well, by the time we post this, Jay Crowder's probably a buck.

So. Well, the trade deadline is until next week, so I don't. I think we're we've got a little bit of a way to yeah, Jay's like, Yeah, trade me to Milwaukee, but I actually don't want to play, so. Just wait to the deadline and then I'll need two months to recoup and then. The playoffs, just play me a little bit, and then I'll play against the Suns and team threes and miss them all.

Yeah, he's he's taking George Hill's minutes in the playoffs, which would be minuscule as is, hopefully. Um so I'm oh yeah. This is All right.

Next question. Good first question. Thank you.

Yeah. We are two weeks away from pitchers and catchers. After trading away their best player in the heat of a division race, the Brewers were abandoned by David Stearns like baby Moses in the River Nile. Despite some bright spots, the twenty twenty three Brewers appear to leave much to be desired. This is the least excited you've been for the Brewers in recent memory.

Oh yeah? Or oh no Uh well recent memory. I'll say, oh, yeah. After the bites of the apple thing, and just like. You know, it just.

Nope. Those are the trader trade, the bites of the apple, and Stern's leaving. Like, what do we... We're not going up. We're in the wrong direction it looks like and I don't like it, but go go ahead.

What is a. What's recent memory? Like, what's the time frame? Like, since we. Since we were in the playoff hunt like ten years ago when we went to the NLCS.

against the Cardinals. Then I would actually say, oh no. There was one year. Where I was even less excited. I think it was 2016.

So the Brewers in 2014, that was the first year I started the fan. And like right away, Sparky's like, hey, come do a post-game show with me. And they're playing the Dodgers. and Jimmy Nelson outdueled Clayton Kershaw. And we were like, oh my God, it was August.

Brewers were in a good position. They free-falled at the end of 2014. In 2015, they sucked. And in 2016. What did they do in 2015?

2015, they were 68 and 94. And then, so 2016, they had a bad year. And I thought. And I brought this to the big show. They let me host the big show.

And I, you know, I'm still a little unknown and whatever.

So I had the topic. Is it f Is it fair to take a year off from watching your favorite team? Comma Should I root for the Cubs this season instead? Yeah. Now, Cubs won the World Series that year, so I should have rooted for them.

That period. Like at the end of Raneke and when they were first bringing in council. That was pretty bad. But I think this year, like. I'm not excited.

Like that that year that That year, I wasn't excited because they were going to suck. This year, I'm not excited because they're going to be the same as they were the last five years. And worse. Like, I'm sorry, I see people online doing this. I can't like I can't be like well if If Jesse Winker gets back to his All Star year, And if Brian Anderson plays like he did four years ago.

Well, here, I'll take it from here for you, Park. Because I would say, oh, yeah, because when I think about it, we put in so much effort last year, whether you were trying to talk yourself into the Brewers or try to make excuses for them or talking yourself out of how good they were. And I was one of the leading charges. At the station, like, I think this brewers team is good. And then they just trade Josh Hayter.

And the bottom falls out. Like, if anything, it's not that I'm not excited, it's that I don't want to have to put in effort to plead for the Brewers again. Because, like you said, Bart, they're the exact same.

So it's already starting, like you said, oh, well, if Jesse Winker can be this guy that we thought he once was, or Brian Anderson can be the prospect, or if we can do this, or this and that. And it's like you're trying to put scenarios together. That everything has to go perfect. And if one little thing out of a hundred goes wrong, then the Brewers are right back where they were last year and missing the playoffs. I just can't put myself through that again.

It's not that I'm not excited. You know, once baseball season comes around, I'm going to watch all these teams. I'm excited about baseball being back.

So it's not that I'm not excited about the Brewers, but I don't want to have to go through all this again. This year, like we did last year.

So I would say, oh, yeah, I'm not excited about. Really seeing the brewers this year. I mean, maybe they'll surprise us, maybe because it's. It seems like the expectations going into this year got dropped a little bit compared to last year, but. Even so.

I'm not like thrilled to see the Brewers this year.

Well, and it's been like that. It's been. For the last few years, it's been the brewers can be good. If Four of these guys. Have one of their best years ever.

I remember doing that with if Jesus Aguilar can do this, if Omar Narvaez can do this. And yeah, if But there's at some point there's just too many ifs. Like it's not like. All right, brewers are good. And if Kestan here figures it out, they're going to be great.

No, it's Brewers are fine. If nine, you know, it's it's too many guys.

So The level of excitement. Is not there. Like, I'm excited for. Baseball every night. I'm excited to maybe take my kid to a couple games.

But I'm not. I don't I'm I don't think there's any chance like There. winning anything. Maybe they get in as a wild card. But see, now we have low expectations.

So if they win 95 games. It's going to be the funnest season ever. Man? I mean, that's... That's pretty much saying it all right there.

I mean, you can kind of See how I feel based on the question. Um my excitement is quite low, but you know, I'll I'll go out. We're gonna take our Four-year-old, she'll be five. We're going to take her to her first game, so we got that going on. But as far as the team goes.

I mean, if they make the playoffs, I'll be shocked. And I think there's a very low chance of that.

So, you know, we'll enjoy the ballpark a few times and that's about it. I have a question. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh no.

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The University of Wisconsin men's basketball program has been dusty and stale for too long. Yeah. They should can Greg Gard after this season and bring in a spicy young success story like Luke Fickle is Luke Fickle is for the football team. Oh yeah or oh no. Um Toby, you want to go first?

You already answered. I don't know. I don't know that they should fire guard. Like, I I think guard is. Pretty boring, but...

It depends on who you're bringing in. Like, it's a pretty obvious one with football. If you can bring in. A Luke Fickle over Paul Christ, you do it, and you've already seen the difference that that can make. But who are you bringing in for basketball?

Like, are you stealing someone from another school? Like, what are we doing here?

So. I'd have to have A contingency plan in place before I'd say fire guard because. I mean, guard just took you last year from. a team that wasn't supposed to be anything to winning the Big Ten.

So I think you got to be a little bit careful there.

So. I would say, oh no, right now I wouldn't fire guard. But if you had a contingency plan or you had something. Set up that you could bring somebody else in that's a solid head coach, then absolutely I do that. Yeah.

Well, they're now in danger of missing the tournament. And they're losing a bunch of games in a row. I I that's true, but like Who do they have on that basketball team? You can say Chucky Hepburn, and Chucky's good, but he's a point guard. He needs other people around him.

Yeah, no, they're no good. And now in college That's part of the you know, job is you got to recruit these guys. Yeah. And sometimes you recruit guys and they just end up sucking. Like Graham Mertz.

Well, I feel like this year is more of an indictment on Greg Gard the recruiter than Greg Gard the coach. But those things are going to go hand in hand. Yeah. And so he maybe not gets, you know, you might get fired for being a bad recruiter. But he's always been like a decent recruiter.

That's kind of been what they liked about him. I mean, let's not forget the number 10 overall pick went to Wisconsin last year, and we've seen so much of him in the NBA that we just know that Wisconsin provides quality NBA talent. Yeah, what's the deal with Johnny Davis? He barely even plays for the G League team. Yeah.

Like anyone could have saw that coming.

Okay. I don't know, but everyone hates that pick, so. I don't think you should fire guard. No. I think what's happening is.

Too many people are looking at the football program and saying, oh, let's do it for that. When there's no Like obvious choice. You're not going to get a rush of transfers to come in like you did in football.

Well, I feel like for football Correct me if I'm wrong here, but like obviously this past year was a down year, but the year before that was a little bit of a disappointment. Like it's been a couple years of disappointment. For the football program in a row, where you're like, Well, maybe Chris isn't the guy. You just had a year last year with the basketball team where they overachieved. And this year they've disappointed.

I don't think you can just halfway through a year that they've been disappointing for the first time in a little while, just can Greg Gard out of the blue.

Well, people have wanted to fire Greg Guard since he got that job anyway. Anytime the Badgers lose two games in a row. Fans want to fire him. Yeah. I mean It the badge I I don't know.

Sometimes sometimes Sometimes Badgers fans. act like their program is Duke. Or North Carolina. Or Kentucky. It's not.

So You're going to eat your gray guard and you're going to like it. Yeah, I have very little opinion on this. Not much of a Badgers guy. I just needed questions, so I wanted to make one up about the Badgers. I say go for it.

Why not? Make things more entertaining? I can't name a single player on the Badgers right now. I know a guy that should go over there. Bart Lundy.

Hey, Bert.

Well, yeah, I think him in Milwaukee.

Okay. Well, so Bart Lundy is a two-time guest on my show now. Friend of show. Yeah. Yeah.

So. Yeah, if he goes. If he goes to Wisconsin, then I'd have an in-it Wisconsin. Yeah, there you go. Cord side at the Cole Center.

There you go. And both of our names are barked. Oh, I know who they should get to go coach the Wisconsin Badgers. Mike Budenholzer. Jesus.

Yeah. That solved two of your problems there, Bart. No more Mike Dean holes. That is in honor of, for our 100th episode, that's in honor of Tim Shea. That can hot take.

The John Gruden hot take. Wow. All right.

Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Man, I'm very impressed. Thanks. All right.

Question 405. Former devil makes you think that any idiot could do a podcast. What do I think I'm so special for? I don't know. This is not fun.

Former Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator Kellen Moore was hired for the same role by the San Diego Chargers. Yesterday afternoon. less than twenty four hours after being jettisoned from Jerry World. Going from Dak Prescott and the Cowboys to Justin Herbert and the Chargers is actually a promotion for Kellen Moore. Oh yeah.

Or, oh no. I think this is good for the Chargers. Cause Brandon Staley sucks.

So He needs to not have anything to do with the offense. Because isn't he a defensive guy? Yeah, he's a defensive guy. He was the defensive coordinator with the Rams before he got hired over there. I think they should just make him the defensive coordinator.

And you know, he's the head coach, so let him call timeouts and stuff. But he's shitty at that, too. Yeah, I don't think Staley's a very good head coach. Like, I think you can get by because of the success of the team, but I don't think he's very good. I think Kellen Moore going over there, though, is 100% an upgrade because you get rid of the pressure of being in Dallas with the star and Jerry Jones.

Will Mike McCarthy be here next year? Will I maybe get promoted? Are they bringing in Sean Payton? You get rid of all of that. And now you get to call plays for Justin Herbert and offense.

And maybe take over for Staley. Yeah, and eventually, maybe you do get promoted to that head coaching job. Like essentially, you were already being talked about as a head coaching candidate over the last couple of cycles. In Dallas, now you get an upgraded quarterback, and so you can do a lot of the things that you did with Dak Prescott with a much better talent in Justin Herbert. And you have Keenan Allen, you've got Mike Williams, you've got Austin Eckler, you've got a lot of talent over there.

In LA.

So I think 100%. Oh, yeah, a huge upgrade for Kellen Moore. I think another thing is. Kellen Moore is going to get less TV time. And that might be good.

Because if you're watching the Cowboys, every time they have a bad play. They show Kellen more.

Okay. The Chargers, they're going to show them maybe once a game. Nobody cares about who the Chargers' offensive coordinator is. Yeah. So I think it's a good move for him.

Yes. Oh, yeah. I agree. I think he I mean, he was the designer of that spectacular play that ended the Cowboys season with Ezekiel Elliott at center where he just got pancaked immediately. And I think it's just there's something comical about that guy getting picked up instantly, and it just says something about the nepotism of the NFL and how.

If you recently had a job, you're just like automatically qualified. Or, well, I mean, you're qualified obviously, but you're just going to get picked up right away because oh, he this guy knows you know, he just had this job, we don't have to tell him how to do it or anything, he'll just step in and do it. And there's I wish that they took more chances. in the NFL. But uh you know hired people like Matt LaFleur.

A young offensive coordinator, and look how that's gone. But hey, wait, I mean they're on Jeff Saturday. Oh, but he was like best friend.

Well, and you spoke of nepotism. The guy they fired out of that role was Joe Lombardi, so. They should just take it like a refresh here where they're like, all right. Whoever gets hired this year as a coach can't know a single person in the NFL. You okay, hold on.

Bring some of the I gotta ask you. Bring high school coaches. High school football is like the pinnacle of life, anyway, is what I'm told. If you got fired from a head coaching gig or a gig where you just got paid. And you're guaranteed to make like five or six million over the next couple of years without doing anything.

Are you going back into coaching? Because I sure as heck would not. Like Nathaniel Hackett gets fired, and he's still going to get a paycheck from the Broncos. I'd be sitting at home. They want more?

Yeah, why if you want to go work? Like, come on, you're going to pay me five million to sit at home and literally not do anything? I'd take that in a heartbeat. It's not like he wakes up contemplating every day if he should go door dashing or not. Yeah.

Which I think I really might get back at it today. Hey, why not?

Well, it's so cold this week. That's true. You get more tips, make some money. Hopefully. I just don't want anyone to see Just bundle up.

Just drive through and draw that thing out. Wear like a Trump hat and then a mask, and nobody will know it's you.

Well, I can't wear balda. I'd have to wear a ski mask, not a cold. You never know. Get an American flag one with an eagle on it. Yeah.

Me in the middle. Yeah. All right.

I do have a snowball mask I could wear.

Okay. That'll work. I'm gonna actually go get it now and put it on. I hope you do. Yannis Antetacumpo recently told Eric Name of the Athletic that he believes he is currently at 80% of his peak ability.

Is that possible? And if, oh yeah. How many more championships should he be expected to lead the Bucks to, assuming he reaches that hundred per cent in his mind? Toby, you answer first. I'm going to go get this mask.

Let's see. If I were saying that he was at 80%. I mean, what's the other 20% that he can improve? Being an effective jump shooter? Like, being a real.

I don't know, like three-point threat. If you were turnover, I don't know what part of his game we can really improve by 20% other than the jump shot.

So. I would say that he's maybe, I mean, I'm not going to disagree with Giannis, but just from the. observers I'd say closer to 90 to 95 percent complete because if he adds an effective jumper, which I don't know that he's ever going to be. You know, a real three-point threat or a real jump-shot threat.

So I don't think that that's ever going to be the case. But if this is true, he's 20% able to improve, then you'd think he's got to win at least two more in Milwaukee. But I don't know that that's going to happen either.

So I would say. I am here with your DoorDash delivery from Mad Chicken. I would say, oh no, I don't feel like Giannis can be. I noticed you didn't leave me a tip. 20%, but.

Yeah. You might want to reconsider how much you tipped me before I give you this chicken. Yeah, I could run around in this today if I do. Yeah. Firefly.

It's not scary. I can't do it in the summertime. Why not? I look like a ninja. A ninja of sorts.

That sells it. Yep. There you go. No, they just have to look a few uh little bit south and realize you're not a ninja. Giannis has more to give.

Well, how much more? Like 20% if he's at 80% Math guy here, that'd be improving by 25% of what he already is. Like, it's not like he's. Um You get that 80%. Improving by twenty twenty five percent of eighty is twenty.

Like 80 plus 20 is 100. He's got the ability to drive, he's got good handles, he's got good defense, he's a good playmaker. The only thing that really holds him back still is a jump shot.

So, unless he's adding a jump shot that Is Steph Curry-like, then sure, he can improve by 20, 30, 40% if he added that, but that's not happening.

Well, maybe some of it isn't in his control. Maybe some of it is. Like how he's officiated. Sure. Maybe some of it is.

You know, if like he didn't have these guys that went cold all the time. His assist numbers would skyrocket.

Well, and maybe he's talking about the fact that if he were able to shoot 85% from the free throw line, that. Maybe that's a big improvement for him. I don't know. The way he the other night Sunday night, just like nonchalantly was like. I need 50.

I'll just make two threes. That was amazing. Amazing. It was amazing. And so if you can.

Like if I No, I was going to say if he could be Steph Curry from three, he's not going to be. I mean, you just hope that he's. Anybody decent from three, but that would, if he's a 35% three-point shooter, yeah. That changes a lot. Yeah.

I mean, I think there are other you know, ways he could shave stuff, you know, like he could he could drop his turnovers by a quarter. He could increase his offensive rebounding by a quarter or something like that, just little stuff that you might not think of. As term in terms of like, oh, a three-point shot, that's something huge. But. I think maybe he's thinking of little stuff that he can do to spice things up or cut down on the little mistakes.

Well, the question I I have with that is if he improves his three-point shot to become effective and that's what he's really working on. I don't want it to change Giannis, though. I don't want it to change the way he plays. You know, you get. I want him still driving downhill at the bucket.

all game long, as opposed to just getting to the three-point line and pulling up. On a consistent basis. Because I think part of the thing that makes Giannis so effective is, I mean, I don't want to bring this comparison in because people have already compared him to it, like Celtics fans, but it's like a running back going through and wearing down a defense. Like at some point in the third and fourth quarter, you're sick of standing in there and Giannis going through your chest and dunking the ball or getting a layup at the rim.

So I think part of Giannis' effectiveness is his consistency in playing a physical game. And if he decides that he's going to now start pulling up from three, then I think that takes a little bit away. But at the same point, you look at a guy like Michael Jordan and the older he got, he lost a little bit of that. Physical edge that he had.

So he had to evolve into a little bit more of a jump shooter. And we're getting to a point in Giannis's career where it's not going to happen in the next two to three years, I wouldn't think. But you look four and five and six years down the road, and Giannis probably does need to evolve into a little more of a jump shooter because at some point in his career, this physicality is going to take a toll on him, and he needs to add that jump shot. Couldn't agree more. That was five.

Yep, that's all I have uh today. Oh yeah, or oh no, yeah, or a Mark Winkler show podcast to get to 100 episodes. What an honor to be featured on the Hundredth episode. You think I flamed out before 100? I don't know.

The real test is now after Packer season.

Well, if you thought I was going to get to 100, that either means like I was dedicated and did it, or I wasn't going to get another radio job. Yeah. But I have another radio job. Yeah. I'm on the radio.

Yeah, you're famous Saturday on 100 stations. Like that counts, right? Yeah, 100%. Are you bet do you have another one scheduled? After that.

after in the future. Is there a future one scheduled at this point? Yeah. They like do what I did with Toby: like, text me randomly, like, I need you right this second. Hey, they got you.

That's what they do with me. I need you immediately. Hey, I'm at your beckoning call, Bart. Will I make it another hundred? Yes.

Probably. What is that, uh? Four or five months. Talking Brewers baseball every day. Middle of March.

You know what? Live brewers bitching every night after the games. Yeah, it's a bad time of year, but if I could. If I could double you look like a French soldier. We, we.

If I put your armor on getting ready for battle in 1412. If I could double my listenership. Yeah. I could so everybody tell one friend. About the show.

What if I have three friends and they already all listen to it? Tell them to tell three friends. Yeah. Should I tell people all around the DMV about the Bart Winkler show so they can get educated on Wisconsin sports? I mean, we listened to a DMV guy talk Wisconsin Sports here, so.

Mm-hmm. Checks out. Matt, thank you. Real good stuff. Thanks for having me.

You've earned another opportunity. Oh, wow. Too bad Tim Shade wasn't here to see this. He thought it would be terrible, but. Yeah, you really stepped.

It was all right. I'm not saying it was amazing, but you know, I tried.

Well, you can't set the bar too high your first time. Yeah. I like the charger question. It was kind of tested our knowledge a little bit. I liked that.

I didn't want to keep it all local. Wanted to. you know, pull in something recent. I love that news cross. We like to talk sports here.

That's kind of the whole reason why we're doing this. Yeah, well, we could bring a singer-songwriter in and spice things up and just have them play a few songs with their acoustic guitar. But You know, we got better things to do. See you boys later. See ya.

All right, again, thanks to Matt. Thanks to Toby. Helping out on that one. No one can do it like the great Paul Limig. But, Matt, I really do appreciate that effort.

And that's, again, going back to what I was saying before. Yeah, I'm not on the radio, but. You guys have taken an effort. To Keep me around. And I'm not going to take that for granted.

So I appreciate it. I do enjoy the feedback. I think over the years. You know, I am just trying to do the best show that I think that I can do. And over the years, you know, there's been A lot of feedback, good.

Or bad. I was looking at some of the feedback. From again, I'm going through a bunch of old stuff.

So I was looking at some of the feedback from when I very first started. the uh Chuck and Winkler show.

Some guy by the name of C.G. This is from September 2016. I've been a longtime listener of Chuck and Wicket. These two work so well together, made it a joy to listen to a couple hours each day. They made the day start out well.

Then you added Winkler. Since day one, I've been disappointed in Winkler. He has an awful voice for radio. He talks through his nose. He's constantly negative and complaining.

He talks over Chuck a lot. He seems pissed. His tone is bad. Chuck rules and does an awesome job. He deserves a better working partner.

My advice is let Chuck run the show alone. or find another partner forum.

Okay, that's how he felt. That's fine. That guy also Email me directly. Right after that. I hope you find a new job.

You always sound pissed and talk over your co-host. I admire you giving it a show at being a radio personality, but you lack the personality needed for radio. Go back and listen to your shows. Maybe you will see why people are not liking you. Yeah.

Um let's see. There was also one from Mike. He had said when I first started with Chuck, you have to get this Bart idiot off the air. He is a whiny bitch and hard to listen to. Everyone I talk to is switching morning shows because of him.

That's what I always liked. Everyone I know is switching. We are mass switching. We all got together in the park and ride and turned our preset. That day.

The reason I bring it up. is because while I don't have any Carl's Place voicemails to share for you. Carl of et.com backslash Bart. I did. I did.

I was editing this podcast this very one. And I got a LinkedIn message.

Okay. So, LinkedIn is really driving me nuts. LinkedIn's driving me nuts. I'm trying to go on there more, you know. Hashtag open to work.

But every LinkedIn is like I went down to my basement the other day. And I'm just, I'm not, I'm just saying that because that's where I am, and I'm trying to come up with this on the spot. I went down because the real post, I don't know if the guy listens or not, I know him from high school. But I went down to my basement the other day, or I had a busy day. Many calls, many meetings.

But beforehand, I had to go down in my basement to get something. There's an old box in the corner of my basement that I haven't looked at in a long time. And I looked at it today. Not sure why. Maybe the light was hitting it just right, but something sparked my interest in this box.

And in this box was a bunch of old letters from high school, including one letter from my dad that said, Son, I know you have a big day today with your SATs. You can do it. I believe in you. That message can be equated to today.

Sometimes we need to go back into our memory bank and pull out a source of inspiration if we're not feeling up to the task that day.

Now it's time for my meetings. Right or after I call my dad. Like everyone's trying to be Uh Everyone's trying you know, everyone's trying to be a fucking poet.

Now I don't want to swear. Because I did get this LinkedIn from Julie. She says Longtime fan, but starting the podcast where every other word is an F-bomb and talking about chest hair is a turn off. Really, not interested in how often someone gets shit faced. Dot dot dot dot You are regressing.

Is your target pop juveniles who love to swear? Can't actually listen now when kids are around. And again, if I've gotten one negative feedback, I don't know why I saved those other ones. I'm going to hang on to them for posterity. I'm going to keep that in my basement box.

But this one bugs me. Oh, wait. We've talked again before. We've talked before. Oh, I understand what's going on here.

Okay, somebody, I'm doing okay, someone.

Someone DM'd me. The same person DM'd me. I'm 78 healthy. I was so very sorry for the change in format. I'll never listen to Odyssey again.

What bullshit! Hope to hear from you soon. Jeez, all right.

So I guess bullshit's okay. F-bomb's not. I came down to record this just seeing this first one. I didn't realize that we had connected. In the past.

So, Q, that one's directed at you. You and I showed our Chester that day. I'm not sure who the one was getting bombed that night. Half the people were jumping on talking about dry January. All right, so I always like to read the good.

Uh along along with the bad. The next live will be on, but the thing about LinkedIn is pissing me off. I almost want to read like I'm going to read it. I used to be the guy who didn't judge you for texting back. I saw it, it's on your phone.

Why can't you respond?

Now I'm the guy who doesn't always text back. There's a lot of things going on at the same time. If you ever feel like you're juggling a lot, Text me. I'll get back to you. Tonight, I volunteered at my son's school for an event focused on the fun of reading.

I ran the craft table while he ran around with his friends. At the end of the night, there was a raffle. Dad, we already have something like this at home. Is it okay if we give this to my friend? He really wanted to win.

I'm grateful for my son. Here's my role model. But why do we gotta do this every day? Wha why do we get this every day? But then there's the people that think LinkedIn is Facebook.

They're still posting pictures of pick your president. Standing on a tank with an American flag with like eagle arms. I mean, LinkedIn is the worst. LinkedIn is the worst. All right.

Well, whoever sent me that message, I don't know if it was this guy or his wife, but. I apologize I do apologize. I am trying to swear less, which I think the swearing has gone down a little bit. Uh Except for when Horvod's on. I can't stop that.

And look, sometimes guys just want to sit around on YouTube and show each other their chest hair. I can't stop that either.

Next live show will be after Buck's Clippers. This is a nine o'clock game. All the games tonight. Besides one. In the eastern time zone or central time zone.

The TNT 630 game is Cleveland and Memphis, in Cleveland, I think. And then the nine o'clock game, they're like, well, what's the best nine o'clock game? The Clippers are a West Coast team, so they're putting them on later. Against the Bucs at nine, but it's in Milwaukee.

So it's weird. But the Nuggets and Warriors play tonight at eight. Central. Which is nine mountain. That could be the nine o'clock game.

I don't know, there's a big difference. Like sometimes there's been games that have started at eight before, and you're like, oh my God, eight, nine o'clock. It's on TNT, so it'll start late and then the first game will probably go long.

So that'll start later. But we're going to be there afterwards. Afterwards. After. After Bucks Clippers, as late as it is.

I'll be live on YouTube. Hopefully swear free. Hopefully chest hair free.

Now, if someone wants to show off the hair down yonder. You know, I think we have to get a different tube for that. But you never know what's going to happen bart after dark.

So, I might have to put a disclaimer on that one. Thanks again. Our sort of 100th episode. Love you all. Smooches and Kisses.

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