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Indeed.com slash BlueWire, terms and conditions apply. Need to hire? You need Indeed. Good morning, everybody. There it is, the familiar welcome that you know and hate. My name is Bart Winkler and this is the Bart Winkler Show. And I want to start it with some bucks today. The bucks will be taking on a team to be determined as of this taping and as of this posting of this episode this Friday, April 14 episode in which it is 414 Day. This is a great reason and excuse for Milwaukee to celebrate itself. This is a reminder to those people in different parts of the world, parts of the country.

If you're going to do an area code, it's very easy to try to make sure that it can be a month and day so that your city can celebrate just for some reason because it's the area code, 414. I grew up in Fond du Lac as a 414 and I remember the day that they went to 920. It was a horrific day.

It was a tragic day. It kind of robbed us of our identity and separated us from everybody in Milwaukee. So happy to be in the 414 but also I do have a 920 area code. Although the only area code that you need to know is 402 because that's the one that Google gave me and I believe it's Omaha, Nebraska, Omaha Steaks. 402-915-BART, we've got a lot of Carl's Place voicemails for you. Those will be coming up later on in the show.

I was just trying to figure out when in the show I wanted to do everything and I do want to start with the Bucks. The main portion, the meat of this show is going to be my chat with Ty Windish of the Eurostep podcast and everything they do at GSPN. Those guys have now come up with a bunch of different podcasts.

Cruisin' for a Bruisin' is a good one for the baseball season. They've got different basketball ones. They've got, I think Adam does a movie one. They do a Packers one.

So they got it all covered. The GSPN guy is also a part of the Blue Wire Network and I'm going to try to get more of those guys on and I'd like to jump on more of theirs as we get into the summer here. So Ty Windish coming up in just a minute. I thought about starting immediately with Ty but the problem is sometimes when I go to the ads, Ty is one of the guys reading the ads. So I don't have a natural spot in my conversation with Ty to throw an ad because Matt in the falls, great constructive criticism told me that when I do interviews, sometimes I don't acknowledge what the person said. So that's where I would have put a commercial, but now I was very cautious and I hope it comes through, but I was very cautious in acknowledging what Ty was saying before I asked him another question. So thank you, Matt, for the constructive criticism.

I never asked and I don't know why you guys all of a sudden started to give me it, but I will take it in the spirit of we're all just trying to help each other out and there's nothing wrong with that. With the NBA, the playoffs officially start on Saturday. I was watching one game and I think it was Kevin Harlan who couldn't decide whether he was calling the playoffs or not.

I don't blame him. Are these playing games the playoffs? They're not. They are the play-in and I know the NBA likes to present it maybe as everything's the playoffs, but these are the play-in. You're not in the NCAA tournament if you get to the first four starter situation. That you're in the tournament.

This you are not. You have to win one of these games tonight to get in. So Chicago and Miami are going to square off this Friday night if you are listening on the day of the posting and I am rooting for Miami only because I don't think they have any interior size that can stop Giannis and it will be a four-game series, but I don't really know and we'll talk to Ty about this, but which one of these teams is more likely to pick off a game from the Bucs? I would probably rather root for that team because then that's another good podcast that I can have in another good live show and that's what I'm really all about.

By the way, there will be a live show Sunday night after game one of Bucs and whoever they play, so make sure I'll have that on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter at all of my Bart Winkler locations. The Bulls and the Heat. Yeah, I'm going to root for the Heat only because I don't want to be one of these guys that is going to be ripping on a 14-year-old girl for screaming under the free throw hoop. I don't want to be doing that with DeMar DeRozan's daughter, so I guess I'm rooting for the Heat.

Then the Thunder and the T-Wolves. That'll be an interesting game with everything that's going on with the Timberwolves, so good Friday night. Nice doubleheader. I'll watch some games coming up this evening. I've got a busy weekend. I will be, for those of you keeping score, righter than you Friday the 14th. That's CBS Sports Radio's way to celebrate Milwaukee Day by having me on, so I will be on righter than you from 9 to 11 central on Friday. On the 15th, I'm back in Madison to do PA for forward Madison, and then on Sunday morning I will be on CBS Sports Radio again from 9 to 1, so the weekend, I guess that's when I work now. I celebrated not working on Thursday by taking a four-hour nap, and it was much needed. I've been working to the bone.

Also, I took a walk with my wife around 1230, and I was completely fucking exhausted. It was way too hot, so questions I'd like to do for a future day include, when do you turn the air conditioning on in your house, and at what temperature do you keep your house? I believe that Thunder's been stolen by another show in town sports-wise, so I will just have to suck it up and wait another day. I also wanted to congratulate the Tampa Bay Rays. The little bit of baseball we'll talk this morning is congratulating the Tampa Bay Rays. They have started 13-0.

Two teams have started 13-0 post-1900, the 1982 Braves and the 1987 Brewers. I tell the story. I have a poster from the Journal Sentinel that my parents, along with the Rob Deer Sports Illustrated cover and some baseball cards, framed.

It was in our basement forever. When I was of the age to ask my dad, I said, Dad, 13-0. At this time, it's instantly I'm learning about the Brewers.

I must be four or five, and I'm trying to collect every piece of information. It clicks on me that the Brewers are a team. It clicks on me what the World Series is, and I ask my dad, Dad, 13-0 Brewers. They must have been incredible. He says they didn't even make the playoffs.

I said, how is that possible? He said because they won 13 games in a row, and then they were really bad for many games in a row as well. The Brewers did finish that season 91 and 71. Good for third place back then.

Now, it would get you into the playoffs because pretty much everyone gets in. All right, so let's talk some Bucks. Take a quick time out and we'll talk some Bucks. I mentioned Omaha earlier. I do want to mention there was a little bit of confusion with the Omaha Steak deal that they have right now because they gave me the wrong copy, so I am going to give you the right copy. They have a Burger Perfection flight, which Spark Eye so well did a great job of talking about. When you go to omahasteaks.com and use the promo code Bart at checkout, you get an extra $20 off orders of 129 or more plus free shipping.

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Each one better than the last me, of course, on the Bart Winkler network, which is this the one show, the Bart Winkler show, uh, bucks getting ready to start. We know Sunday, it's going to be a four 30 tip against, I don't know. Yeah. You don't know that we will find out. I don't know that it matters. I mean, if it, if it matters, then the bucks stink. If we gotta be, I mean, I guess like I'd rather play, you know, I don't want to see Chicago cause of the stupid fans that come. Oh sure. I don't want to see the Raptors cause of PTSD, but none of them are, none of these teams are good. So I'm not worried about that.

Yeah. The Raptors thing. There's people who are worried about the Raptors. Here's why I'm not first and foremost, I follow a decent amount of Raptors fans on Twitter, interacted with them over the years. Obviously there's been a lot of bucks, Raptor stuff to talk about. The number one sentiment I've seen from them is like, hopefully we don't make it to the playoffs. Hopefully we lose one of these two games, two max that they would play and our season ends and we can go get a lottery pick and rebuild. So I just don't think, I mean the bucks are the best team in the league.

I think we agree that they are favorites to win the championship or at least should be. It should, it doesn't, it shouldn't matter. It doesn't matter.

As you said, if it matters, something went horribly wrong anyway. The injury front from Milwaukee looked dicier like a week ago. I think right now it looks solid. And you know, if Grayson or Chris misses a little bit of time, again, it just really shouldn't matter. These teams aren't good and Milwaukee is very good. So I think it's almost kind of cute. I think this may just be like, but Wisconsin sports fans not being used to being the team on the very top, but we don't need to match up prioritize for which team gets out of the play. And I promise it doesn't matter. Well, you brought up Wisconsin sports fans and just to speak to your fandom, but I feel like, um, I don't, I'm having a real problem with bucks.

Let's get into it. I'm not a real problem with bucks fans because it says if two years ago never happened, it's as if we never, like I remember they were down against the nets, uh, what was a two Oh, and then I tweeted in a drunken rage. Don't let the Wisconsin curse get you.

And this is before my infamous parade chairs run on Wisconsin Avenue. That was for the sun series. But with the nets, I said, just don't let it get you. Just don't.

Cause my take was in rooting for the warriors as much as I have with familial ties. Okay. Uh, by the way, very honest with you. That's commendable. Yeah.

Thank you. I have watched the playoffs like more intently than others. I, I, my argument was I'm better at watching the playoffs than you. I understand the swings. I understand, you know, you can't get too high.

You can't get too low. So when the bucks were down to, Oh, I thought it's still not over. Let's just, let's just relax. Then they win the series.

Okay. Then they play the Hawks. Then Janus gets hurt, panic again. Then he comes back and they win that series. Then they go down.

Oh, two against the sons. Then they come back and they win that series. We've seen this team on the brink of destruction and then we've seen them win. But when we approach this playoffs, it's like, we still have the monkey on our back of never winning a championship.

We just want a championship. They know how to do it. I just wish that we trusted better as bucks fans that they knew how to do it. Like they may not win at all. They may not.

They're the favorites too. They may not, it may not happen, but all the things that we've worried about in the past, I don't like if they lose, it's going to be because someone played basketball better than them. It's not going to be dumb, quirky jinx.

It's not going to be something stupid. Let's just watch the basketball and enjoy. That's where I'm at.

I couldn't agree more. This is going to be a fun pod. I can already tell because we're both in the same peg on this one. I just feel like I can swear on your pod, right? Well, this is the time of the, when I say fuck yes. Okay.

Perfect. I would say fuck no. I just, I feel like bucks fans don't talk their shit enough. Like we got the best guy, we got the best team, we got the best big three. I think, I mean, you want to look around the league.

It's, there's a lot of really great big twos that maybe you would take, but that's up for debate too. I think big three wise, big four wise as well. Like the bucks have the team, like they have the best team, they have the best player. And I just feel like there's so much, Oh man, the Raptors are there. Are we going to like, yes, they're going to beat the Raptors. Of course they're going to beat the Raptors. They're much better than the Raptors. They're much better than everyone in the league except Boston, I think. And is again, could, could Philly maybe win the series? Theoretically?

Yes. I don't think that's happening. I certainly don't worry about the four or five, which again is, Oh my God, Cleveland. Like we can analyze the matchup and we will, if we get there at Cleveland has to win first. But I just think there's too much like, Oh my God, it's that, that same, like there was this thing this year I got, I heard a lot from fans of like, Oh, but have the bucks beaten anyone? Do we know that they can beat great teams? They won the title two years ago. We know they can win four playoffs series against Kevin Durant and Devin Booker and the Hawks, but the Jimmy Butler who people were like, Oh, I don't know about the heat. Like if this, that we saw it, we've seen it.

So I think it's bizarre. Like I think the core is better now. I mean, Chris's injuries are probably still the biggest deal, but I think they've gotten more used to playing without him and it looks like he's going to be able to play game one of the playoffs. So I think there's way too much worrying about jinxing it or, you know, just listing off all the possible things that could go wrong when they're the best team with the best player. Like this should be an exciting thing more than a, Oh God, what's going to go wrong this year. Cause as you say, I mean obviously last year didn't go to plan.

They pushed Boston to seven games without any Chris the year before that they won the title. So I do think there's a little too much, I don't know if it's from the brewers never doing anything really or the Packers being close and then losing so many times in a row since they won it last time. But it is just, it's not the energy I want to see. I think we need to be a little more excited about this and a little less concerned.

Yeah. I don't want nervous energy at Fiserv. I guess if there's any tangible like constructive point to fans being better fans instead of just shitting on them, I want there to, I want people to be like, all right, the Knicks are here. Let's let's beat them.

The calves are here. Let's beat them. The Celtics are here, you know, let's beat them.

I want more of that instead of this nervous energy that floats through our state. And I did think when the bucks won the title and we've talked about this, but I thought that, you know, they did kind of feel the energy of the other teams, but they won, they won, they beat it. So I think we should be in that spot to feel good about it. Now, when things happen, people, I think automatically assume the worst, any injury we assume, Oh, he's out.

Any injury we assume is going to be the worst thing ever. I think one interesting thing that we're going to find out because they definitely needed maximum Chris the year they won the playoffs. Then last year they did not have Chris.

And so I think that's a reasonable way they'd lost against Boston this year. I wonder like, what amount of Chris do they need? Cause I think they need Chris. I don't think they need 40 minutes of Middleton. I'm going to be interested to see what kind of like, is it a high power 20?

Is it a steady 30? I'm interested to see where, like, what, what do they need out of Middleton to get over the, you know, the competition? I think they're going to need probably 30 some against Boston, but that's the nice part about being the one seed is that he can kind of build up to that if need be. And I don't think it's about really like saving himself for that because I do think it seems like with all the Chris stuff this year, it's been like when he's not, when he's not able to get in his rhythm has been the worst. So that's why, you know, I was, I mean the report from Chris Haynes on, on last Friday was very encouraging that said it was precautionary and Chris basically apparently told Chris Haynes he wanted to play the Sunday game against Toronto. It seemed and blood was like, yeah, no one's playing that game.

Sorry, bud. But, um, that, that's an encouraging thing, but I think it's about consistently like not ramping down. So he was a limited participant in practice earlier. He's supposed to have full practice, uh, you know, later in the week before that game one, but I'm hoping we can see like mid twenties to, you know, maybe high twenties early at least, and then be at least low thirties by the start of the Boston series. Cause I do think that's the one where you're going to need him the most offensively. Cause we know, I mean the bucks offense I think is better now than it was last year anyway, but Boston gums up the offense sometimes and Chris's ability to just hit shots in someone's face is going to be really important in that series. And we also know how Chris typically plays against Boston. Obviously the last buck Celtics game was a mess, but most of the time Chris is able to light up the Celtics.

So I think that's going to be the one where you need to see him. I'm hopeful we're still going to get something close, not maximum Chris, maybe not 40 minutes, but I'm hopeful. I mean, I think it's just important to keep in mind. Like the playoffs is always a different level and the bucks and their medical staff are very, very cautious in the regular season.

And then Giannis played a series where he said later, if he fell the wrong way, his knee was going to like explode. Like these guys are going to push themselves differently in the playoffs. And that's just how it is.

Especially knowing this is a title window. You know, I don't think these guys are going to leave, but Chris has a player option this year. Brooke is hits free agency this year. I don't think this is a last ride scenario, but I think everyone on the team has to be pretty aware that, you know, there's only going to be so many more runs with this core. I think we're going to see guys leave it all out there and in a very competitive way.

And I think Chris is among those players. Do you think with some of that, um, and I, you know, it comes up on my show where we're talking about Middleton in the future and I'm trying to table it all until after run, which even though I say that, I'm now going to talk about it a little bit with you. Do you think like how they do in this post season affects future moves? Like if they win another with Chris, you know, maybe he's like, all right, I'm going to go like chase one more bag and I don't know, I'm going to come back cheaper. Do you think that the results of the playoffs are going to affect or how much do you think they'll affect what we see from future moves?

I think probably pretty significantly. I mean, given the way everything's played out now so far this year, I am in like Chris probably takes the option mode. I think that is what makes the most sense, right? Like for him at this point. And you know, I don't think the bucks would not be right now be giving him multiple years of 40 plus million.

I think that's the player option is. I think if he looks good this run though and they win, I think there's a much better chance that maybe they figure out whether a Tim taking or declining that and just figuring out something that works for both sides going forward. And I think I feel more strongly about that now because we, this new CBA that was approved that the details are still coming through. The bucks spending ability is going to be limited, not for once by ownership, but I should say they've been great this year.

They've done the most this year. Like I think Jogich and Leonard like are whatever probably should never play, but that was like a lot of money they spent in tax just to bring those guys in and have more depth. So not this year and years past, but it's going to be harder to spend money just based on the CBA when you're above a certain point above the tax. So locking in as many guys as possible right now, I think makes a lot of sense.

So I think it's going to depend. I think if he has a hard time staying on the court in the playoffs, then that player option is just going to be what makes the most sense. I would love it though, if there was a way to get a resolution for like the next three years, that's something besides needing to give Chris the full max, depending on how he looks, but I think just availability wise, the bucks have to be a little cautious, but that's difficult to do because it's Chris Middleton. I mean, we saw him hit all the shots when they won a title.

It's a very difficult situation. I definitely think though the playoff run is going to matter because Chris being able to get through playoff runs is ultimately what matters most for this team. You talked a bit about it a little before with Boston and what they're able to do against Milwaukee and I think that, you know, the, the catch phrase I've been saying is I think there's four or five teams that could pick off Boston in these playoffs. I think Boston is very vulnerable matchup wise to a lot of teams. I think Boston will win and get to where they need to get to, but they can be, they can be beaten by teams that will not beat the bucks. That being said, I think Boston is really the only team that can realistically beat the bucks. What is it besides my take? My take is they're just good at the bullshit points like Al Horford can stink for a month and then play against the bucks and have 30 points. I knew you, everybody knew after the Eastern conference finals last year that when the Celtics went to the finals, grant Williams would stink and Al Horford would stink against golden state.

And then they both stunk. Like what is it? Is it, is it, is it something tangible? Is it a basketball thing?

I'm not missing. Is it just bad luck? Do they have our number? Why do these guys that are the others or the scrubs, why are they a listers against my beloved bucks?

I think it's really, it's complicated. I mean, I think the biggest part of it is they're really good at stretching out the floor offensively in ways that other teams don't. Like I think this has been one of my rules for the bucks for the last couple of years now. If you can't get Brooke out of the paint either into the perimeter or off the court entirely, it's just really, it's almost impossible to beat the bucks in a seven game series. I think cause we know that's how they built their defense. That's why despite Yanis and Drew maybe being better individual defenders, Brooke was the DPOI candidate because they built their whole defense to channel everything toward Brooke and then stay home on shooters. So they're not giving up threes and Brooke takes away everything at the rim. So I think if Brooke's able to stay back there, it's really hard to beat the bucks. And Boston makes it difficult because Horford, Grant Williams, I mean now that Muscala, Blake Griffin, all of their guys spaced to a certain extent. Robert Williams doesn't, he's a vertical threat. They also play him a little less against the bucks a lot of the time, but I just think they're built to stretch the floor, move around a lot.

They're fast, they shoot. So I think they're built to just kind of stretch the floor out and make the defense get away from the rim. And that's where Milwaukee is the least comfortable. It's really a wing heavy series in a way that not many teams are going to have. Even like Phoenix is going to have eaten down there, right? And can't really credibly go five out.

I don't think, I think they're not deep enough. Boston's also very deep. They have guys who can beat you off the dribble. They're good at finding the weak link players on a defense like we saw with Grayson Allen last year. So I think they're, they're just very good at a lot of things and they're the things that the bucks can handle, but it's not what they prefer. Like I think you watch Milwaukee play Philly and just the way their defense can settle in because they have PJ out there, they have the other McDaniel's who doesn't really shoot, you know, Brooke and Giannis are going to be around the rim. That's just a much better defense to have for the bucks than, you know, Giannis in one corner, Brooke kind of dragged up away from the rim and then those defenders get beat and no one's there to help. So I think it comes down to making Giannis and Brooke kind of stay honest to, to their men and keep them out of that painted area. And that's where Boston has found some success. We'll assume they get through the first round. We'll assume they get through Nick's casual, assume they get through Boston or Philly or whatever. And then we'll look at the NBA finals. I'm getting a future tweet here. It says, Bart, how dare you talk about the finals already before we're even that far to my response would be shut the fuck up. You root for the Milwaukee bucks, start acting like it.

I with the West. So my, my thought was it was going to be, my thought was the seeding is as irrelevant as ever because you've had a Lakers team that has completely changed themselves and they have the seven seed. And I know it was pretty ugly the other night, but they, they have the seven seed and you know, I think they're a favorite against Memphis at last check or the odds are pretty tight. The warriors are going to be the Kings.

I'll put my, yeah, I think feeling good about that. And then, well, okay. The Kings don't play defense.

Everyone's on the road and the Kings do the regular season problem. We'll see. Okay. Side bet. Yeah.

Okay. Whatever that trophy is behind you. That blue wire trophy. I want it. No, my hustle award or no, it's my my spirit award. Yes.

How do I get one of those? We'll talk off one. Okay. All right. Okay. So no bet. The sons are the team with Kevin Durant.

Yeah. And I think that that's, I don't, I'm very low on the nuggets and I'm like, I'm like, like embarrassingly low, like you're embarrassed for me how much I belittle the number one seed in the West. The Grizzlies, you know, the Kings, I think the sons though, if they, they have to get like an above average, not all time, but very good series from KD. I think that he could be the difference in that series. So really the only team I'm only worried about the Celtics right now going into the playoffs, I'm worried about the Celtics, maybe taking a seven and winning and I'm then I'd be, then I'd be concerned that the sons get like a magical KD series and he gets his somewhere else. And Chris Paul's the champion, which I want to see less than I can never happen when a super bowl that can, it can happen. So we're looking at West match steps in the bucks.

Who do you not fear? But yeah, I don't like the Denver matchup actually. I think it's a weird one for the bucks. I don't think they've had much success containing that team. I think they'd probably end up winning the series just cause Denver doesn't have any success containing anyone.

And this is one where I'm really glad the bucks got home court throughout the whole playoffs, not just in the East because winning in Denver also sucks. Denver sports should be illegal. Like it's just like, you know, that's my number one take.

It's totally different. This is, I didn't know this was your take. This has been my take. You, their baseball stats should be thrown out. And the football guys are like dying on the field. Like this shouldn't be allowed.

Guy. I bring, I brought this up the other day on CBS and I've been hammering this for years because there is home court advantage. Like, Hey, sometimes you play on the road or this place has a green monster. This place is a little colder. You might, you might play a game in Miami and they were the light jerseys.

You were the darts, but they're a mile in the sky. It's insane. Nobody else has that sort of advantage.

No. So, um, yes, that's, I'm big into that baseball. I think it's the worst, but football is, it's also pretty basketball too.

It's just like, it's hard to get used to that conditioning. Um, God, what a take. It's just, it's insane.

Mexico city. If they ever get an NBA team, it's going to be the same deal. I know they're higher, even higher. They might be almost hot. Yeah. I know that it's similar. Um, but that G league team, God, God rest their souls for anyone has to go play G league basketball in Mexico city. I think they have a team now.

Um, but I just don't want that. A hundred feet. I wow. Jesus.

Mexico city. Um, you're basically, you're basically on the moon. Yeah. Basically the ball probably flies the same way too. Yeah. No gravity. Anyway, that's like the bubble.

Yeah. The, the, the nuggets. I just, I, you know, I think the home court, the bucks would win it. I just, it's so hard to stop them and I'm kind of hoping somebody else does it for the bucks just because the sons, I think probably, probably at their top level are the best or like the most talented team, at least top end. Like I think their depth is really shaky, but we've seen Milwaukee beat Katie and one star guard before or one and a half star guard before and we've seen Milwaukee beat the sons before. So I think they're, they're kind of used to those opponents, I guess, which maybe that's not good, but I just think we've seen that success there enough.

And you know, I really liked their team. I think the Crowder acquisition is really going to help against teams like that with the, the plus wing players. I think same way about Boston. Like I think that he's going to be a huge deal in those match-ups, but the other teams in the West, I mean, I, we've always wanted the warrior series. I think bucks fans in general have thought that would always be just a really fun series. I like the bucks chances.

It would, it's just, again, I feel like stylistically, it would be a weird one. It would be difficult, but I liked their chances. I mean, like all their chances, the rest of the West, I would say I'm not worried about if the Lakers did somehow pull it off. I think that's a great match-up for the bucks, to be honest. Like I think they do really well there. So for the same thing, like teams that don't space that much from one through five, I just think generally are Milwaukee's going to match up really well. So that's why I like Denver, Denver, their centers, you know, the point guard and they're just moving all over the place. It's just harder to cover for versus teams where Brooke and Giannis can kind of sit back a little. So yeah, I think Phoenix top end is probably still the scariest just cause Katie and Booker combined is, is a hell of a team, but then the three and four I think are just good and everything else I think is not good Denver.

I don't think we'll get there and kind of thankfully just cause I don't, it's just, I don't know what that would look like. We haven't had many good games between those teams. So it would be, there'd be a real newness to that series, man, to have someone else say the Denver thing, unprompted by me.

Yeah. What a, what a moment that was. Thank God the bucks don't don't four games. If I serve would be huge. You can't lose a home game. If that was the finals, I would think what a moment.

All right. I do want to talk about the other thing that I, um, have really liked that you, you mentioned, because I think it, I think it re it should resonate with more people where, uh, you know, you guys, the whole crew went down to a bunch of games. I think you did opening day with your guys in Chicago and some of you went to Miller park or w yeah. Um, but, but you got to see a bucks game and you got to see Giannis and you guys all got to see that live. And I think that like, we're in a great age of television HD fingertips. It is completely different to watch Giannis in person, even if you like, don't have the best seat in the house.

We were a second deck, like, like maybe a second deck. Seeing like the transition happened, just seeing his pure size, seeing the ability. And I think that if, if more people could watch him, uh, in person, he would have won five MVPs in a row.

He would already go down as a top three MBA player of all time. Like he is just so incredible. Um, that I think that, that, that, cause I, I've felt the same way. I felt like Giannis is the best. I know he's so good. And then you watch him and you can think that somebody is top notch.

And then like it unlocked, like every day I love my son just a little bit more. And I'm like, how did I love him this much more? I, I thought I loved him most yesterday. And with Giannis, I'm like, how did I think he's as much better?

I thought the same thing. I get the same feeling watching Giannis as I do seeing my son grow up. Uh, I can't even say that that's a ridiculous comp because I was going to say it was like a legitimate religious experience watching Giannis against the Sixers. So you've got your son comp, I guess I have God for the Giannis comp, but it's, it's really just like, it's like the energy and I know I'm like, they don't win every home game.

They win most of them, but they don't win all of them. But watching Giannis in a big game, especially, I mean, I watched him against Orlando too, and that was fun. Like just dunking all over the magic.

That's fun. That's, that's nothing wrong with that. But the energy of a big game, and I think every playoff game should or will be like this. And just seeing like the way he takes over the way the word, like it's like the Shaq thing, it just dominates like whatever, most valuable, whatever.

He is the most dominant player in the league and it's not close and watching it live. There's so much energy, you know, Drew and Chris hitting shots, obviously everything Bobby does. I mean, it's just, that place goes crazy. I mean, I was hoarse just from the Bobby chants, much less everything else, you know, yelling about Giannis. It was a lot of loud let's goes. We had the whole GSPN crew.

So the host of all of our pods with the Bucks game. And a lot of us went to Wrigley for a game. Only one went to opening day. So we needed more of us there to win. But those were the ones that a lot of us went to. And it was great. I mean, watching the Brewers was great in Wrigley.

I haven't gotten down to AmFam yet this year, hoping to soon because they've been a lot of fun too. But something about a basketball star taking over the game. And I think more so that that's the thing where we're really lucky. And it's not just that he's that great, but Giannis is that great. Also, like he just had another interview this month where he said he wants to play in Milwaukee as long as they'll have him. Like, he's our guy.

There's never been any reason to, you know, no scandal, no bad look for Giannis really ever. He's he moved a ladder. He didn't move the ladder. You're right. I forgot. Let's just cancel the post.

Just go home and, you know, we'll watch something else. But totally a Philly guy being like, Hey, I'm gonna get this. Yeah, that's my Philly accent. Like, we know what it was. It was a Philly guy.

I have a moment. The fact I mean, every elder media outlets had to run with that because that's the best anti Giannis stuff you can get. Like, there's just no it was a Friday night dude.

I was trying to go to bed and that was like, everyone was everyone had their tweets ready for years. Oh, yeah, exactly. Humble in the draft fake humble smoothie. Oreo. Yeah, running dunk, man.

All of it. But it's just the best and watching him play in a big game. Like if you can get out to a playoff game, and they're expensive this year, but it's gonna be worth it to watch Giannis in the box because also this box team. I think probably the best Milwaukee Bucks team ever, top to bottom. So getting to watch a team like this particular team play is a big deal. I think it's it's, you know, I hope they win it all even if they don't.

I think this should be a team we remember because they are great top to bottom deep, great everything. Let me ask you this one. Paul image comes on my show once a week and he asked this question. And we all everybody that was on the panel said the same thing for this box playoff run. If you had three options, and you were, you don't have to pay for this. You could either sit like nosebleed at Pfizer for every home game.

You could sit middle deck for about half of them. Or you get one game court side, what would you choose for the playoffs? Yeah. Do I know? Do I get to pick the games for the two options? Or is it like random?

They're good games. Maybe it's a Eastern Conference finals court side. So I'm not going to factor travel for me because I'm based in Oshkosh. I think that that could swing it. I'm not going to factor that just for viewing experience. Yeah, I would say every game nosebleeds. Really? I've always wanted to sit court side. I really have. But getting to watch the whole like the whole Eastern Conference and finals and hopefully both to both of those, I won't jinx it that hard. But getting to watch potentially all of those games in person, I think would be a different level. I took court side one game.

I've always wanted to do it. Because I my thought was I did not attend. And I had media options. And I, you know, could have paid up maybe for a ticket. But when they went to the when they won the finals, I didn't go to one game. Yeah, it did go to the deer district though, multiple times.

Yeah. And I was out there for the game six. So that I don't feel like I missed out not being in the building. But if I was in the building, I'd probably say, Oh, you missed out if you right.

But then I would say, I don't know, man, you missed out not being in the deer district. Like, that was pretty great. So I just wanted to because we wanted to find somebody that didn't have the same courtside answer. And I thought I'd ask you and you gave it to us. Yeah, I think I also take it seriously to cheer pretty loud when I'm in attendance, because I feel like sometimes Pfizer gets the rep of not being loud enough. Well, nobody will put your shirt.

That's no one puts their shirts. I'll put the shirt on too. So I feel like I really I want to go I want to be a role player in the crowd. And I think I would like to do that for all the games and really just try and get get loud and get pumped. And yeah, I'm in a quandary on going to the playoff games because I've only been to one and they lost his game one Atlanta.

So everyone tells me I can't go back. So if anything, if I went this year, I would it would have to be first round, maybe second round, but probably first round is like a trial. And if they lose again, I can't I wouldn't I wouldn't go to a conference finals or finals game unless I had a successful test. Like I wouldn't do that to the to the team. I also have a tendency in the playoffs to end up watching the second half with my shirt off.

Yeah. So I probably shouldn't go to too many games. You would you would be you'd only have the given shirt on for the first half, which probably means more, I think. Yeah, I would think that that would be great courtside. Your courtside game would be you'd be very meme'd though. You'd be famous.

Oh, I would be more very, very quickly. Ty always good to catch up with you. Check everything out. Ty does. He is at Ty Windish.

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Yeah, I miss, you know, BJ's a good guy. Oh, yeah. And the bear, of course.

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I've got a lot of interesting ones. I did ask Ty that question that Paul Grant and I talked about the other day regarding where would you prefer to sit? Paul asked if you were given the choice in these playoffs of sitting courtside once or sitting maybe half the games in decent seats or going to every game, where would you prefer to sit? Well, Matt in the falls, I guess some more constructive criticism because we want more details to the question. I mean, okay.

Hey Bart, it's me. Listening to today's episode, listening to you looney tunes, talk about the Bucks playoff picket game attendance question and Paul just called for voicemails. He said I'd like to hear someone who wouldn't take the one game and I had to stop what I was doing and immediately pick up the phone because I don't see how you could take the one game. First of all, you haven't specified which round it's in, so you're telling me you would take a courtside seat against, you know, in our first round game, in our first round series like game two of round one, if that's your playoff courtside experience, you would take that over being there for half the games or every game? Like, you gotta be there for the finals. I mean, you guys didn't specify this unless I missed it. He didn't say a finals game. He said playoff. As far as I have heard so far, um, I think you, you have to go the middle game or the middle route at least because you want to be there for half the finals games. You know, you're going to be there for at least one finals game if you're, you know, I'll let you guys do the math there, but I just don't see how you take the one, especially, I mean, is this randomly selected? Do you get to pick your game? Like, this is, um, I'm a little befuddled, so I think, I think you guys need to explain yourselves more because, well, you guys did explain yourself a lot, but, um, no, I just, I just agree strongly and that's what I got.

See, I'm a little befuddled too, Matt, because, um, I do like my brain's befuddled because on one hand, I appreciate wanting to answer the question the best way possible. What game would it be? I mean, if it's, on the other hand, I don't want to hold your hand through answering the question.

Sorry, but I don't, I don't know. Just say like, well, if it was a early game, I guess I wouldn't. But if it's a final game, I guess I would. Yeah, you answer, whatever. This isn't a quiz.

It's just a topic. I would, if I got courtside seats right now for Sunday's game, that's, I would take it. I would go, I would go. I would just take it.

I've never said courtside. I think that would be cool. And they said the game was Sundays. I'd take it. Why not?

It'd be fun. I don't have the itch to get to a finals game. I I'm surprised I don't actually, because if the Brewers ever have a world series game, I'm going to trip hand over foot to go to that. Uh, I don't, I don't know why I didn't feel that way with the finals. I really wanted to be in the deer district and that's gotta be my answer because the brewers don't have anything similar to that. I don't, I would not play a different, um, I would always choose the deer district. I, and I don't know what, I mean, being in the finals must've been amazing, but being in the deer district was just incredible. Now I also had a set up with Rami at a bar where I had a table and was behind a fence and was getting, so, you know, if I was just, but still when you see that shot, when they show that shot before game six and it's all, it's so worth it, but I had a nice arrangement. So maybe that is why, uh, but I would, I mean, at some point now, if the bucks play the warriors in the finals and I can get a little, uh, grease myself a ticket there.

Well then, well then I mean, you got your aunt, everyone outside, you can look down at you from the puddle club up there is what I'll do. Absolutely. I got another voicemail here. I did talk a little bit of Packers and I did tweet on a Thursday morning that I'm just, I'm no longer bothered by the Rogers stuff. Jets fans has been a topic of conversation and Mike Greenberg's out there talking cause he's a big Jets fan and they want Rogers so bad. And now there's reports that maybe the Packers do wait till May, which I've been saying all along, they should, uh, wait through the draft. Don't matter to me.

Doesn't matter to me. It's over. Rogers is gone. He's not our quarterback anymore. Now I got, I get that he's not gone, but he's not our quarterback anymore. He's not, he's not my problem.

This is not my problem. The jets there. The problem is how did the jets get them?

Uh, what's the problem for the Packers? How awkward it's going to be for Rogers to come here and, uh, and have to be the backup. Who's that awkward for? It's not awkward for me. It's not awkward for goody.

I don't think it's going to be awkward for love. He's going to be like, beat me out then bitch. Now you won't say that. I'll say it for him. So I say, you know, and then, and then jets fans and some Packer fans say, no, you're, you're grossly mistaken wink. Uh, you will, it will be, it's not, I'm done.

Nothing. He can't hurt me no more. You always say, where, where on your body did you hurt? You Bart don't matter.

Then bruises faded away and I got skin like Luke cage. You can make me buy my own bar and I'm coming out stronger than ever. All right. Hot Take Jake. What's up? Mr. Bort.

First thing's first. Uh, this is your boy. Hot Take Jake, the people's champ returning.

It's been a minute for me. And, uh, I heard a lot of calls last week where people were calling me out and look, look, I understand people. You miss me when I'm gone because again, I'm that hard truth. You don't want to hear what you needed, but you need me.

That's why I had to come back today. Uh, I wanted to say, man, Tim Shea, you sold out brother. Just kidding. Very, very happy for you, Tim. You deserve it.

Um, I don't, I still don't understand how you don't make enough money in that side gig, you know, ripping out songs with Jack black, but that is neither here nor there. Anyways, this Aaron Rogers shit is hilarious to me. I'm listening to Greenberg in a little clip on the McAfee show and it's just so funny that they talk about this jets team and this, this jets front office.

Like there's some juggernaut and not the perennial losers that they are. It's simple for me with the Packers here. All you have to do to solve this problem, like you've already tried to do the right thing. Now open up the bidding. Okay.

Because here's the hard truth. Aaron Rogers, despite all of his intricacies and is, you know, what's the old phrase? He's an interesting fella or whatever the hell Murphy called him. He's going to play next year. He is going to play.

He's not walking away from that paycheck. All you have to do is just say, okay, we're not dealing with you jets. We're opening up the phone lines. He's still a good quarterback.

There's not many good quarterbacks in the league. Open up the phone lines and it's done. Take the best offer you get. You tried to do the right thing. It didn't work out because you're dealing with a piss poor organization, a Bush league organization. And honestly, at this point, I'm kind of with the Packers if they really are just feeling petty right now. And, you know, just saying, you know what, you're not getting them. I'm at that point too, because you can't act like you're, again, the, the, you just seem titled for Aaron Rogers. You got to pony up.

And in, in the end, I think the jets will pony up because you got a guy in their GM and their head coach that if they don't do something this year, they're probably gone. So just wait it on out, do what you're doing. Good. You're a God. I love you. I love you too. Bart.

Hopefully catch up soon. I am retired from thank you, Jake. I am retired from ripping on Rogers personality, which doesn't excuse me to, uh, it still allows me to say this point about the situation.

I feel, and maybe I'm wrong, but I'm going to plow ahead and do it anyway. We've always talked for years about how Rogers is calculated. Remember, remember that it was Rogers is like the most calculated guy with how he speaks.

He is thoughtful to the way he says his words, but that doesn't mean when you say calculated, it makes you think that he's like two, three steps ahead of everybody. And if the reports are true, that the Packers and jets may have had a deal. And then Rogers said, I was 90% retired. And then the jets were worried that he was going to retire after this year and wanted more assurances or wanted to lower the trade. Uh, that's not that calculated unless you were trying to screw the Packers, which is still dumb because you're going to have to come here and be the backup. And it's embarrassing. The Packers are starting Jordan love week one, uh, barring the only way is if they don't trade them and then love gets hurt somehow. And then they're like, ah, shit.

That's the only way. And I don't even think they will. I like, I think they are done. They have moved on. They have moved on Jordan.

Love is a quarterback. That's the era we are in. That's the era we are in. And we have to, uh, either hate it or love it.

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Going to try to get out there again, relatively soon. Okay. Uh, grant bills is a, I mean, he's on my website, but he called in for a voicemail. Hey Bart, uh, just heard you in passing on your Thursday show mentioned that you're not sure that you like David.

And I wanted to call in and just leave a quick voicemail because I don't know if I'm going to have a chance to talk to you about it. I don't think that it's David Bocciari personally, I was annoyed by him on the podcast as well, but I think that I'm just annoyed by all of the Packers players over the last decade because they came up short so many times, you know what I mean? Like 2014. And then they made a couple more NFC championship game and they just found so many ways to mess it up and blow it over the last 10 years. And I'm not really interested in now hearing all of those guys go on podcast and speak about the last 10 years as if the Packers front office messed up or didn't give them a show. Oh, we had such a great offensive line room and then they blow it up winning championships.

We're getting the super bowl. So I don't think it's David Bocciari personally. I just think that all of these Packers that have paid and went over the last 10 years, I think I'm just going to be annoyed by it because they came up short and it's not personal to Bocciari. I just think that's how I feel.

So if you're annoyed by Bocciari, maybe that's why. Have a great Friday show and a great weekend for it. We'll talk soon. Yeah. A lot of these Packers come out and say how much, you know, how terrible it was to be a Packer after the fact. Cause they all get broken up with, that's the thing.

And that's what Rogers is trying to stop. But it's not like the Packers were cut. See, when is the, when are the Packers cut a guy and then he's gone out and prospered? I mean, how often does that happen? Like Dean Lowry's talking shit. Cause now, Oh, the Packers.

Well now you're in Minnesota. It will never hear from you again. You stink. The Sean O'Connell with a voicemail.

All right. Good morning, Bart. I'm listening to the most recent pod and I'm about 10 minutes in and it's the constructive criticism segment is going full tilt. I can only assume the next hour is pretty much more of the same constructive criticism via voicemail. So I thought I'd throw my consent in and as myself, Sean O'Connell, the only criticism I have is that you simply must check the junk folder or adjust your filter settings for your Gmail account because Mark's email has been not been responded to or read aloud on the show.

So he is taken to see, seeing me on them. Cause it turns out producer Todd with three D's shared the Sean O'Connell sucks at Gmail, email, email address that I have with Mark before Todd did shuffle loose his mortal coil. So if I could read Mark's most recent email, he says, Hey, Bart, why do you say weird so much on your national broadcast? If all these things are so weird, then what is normal in my experience as Mark, a non weird listener of sports radio, there have always been larger than life athletes that have had personality traits and polka delos that sports writers like George Clinton, Norman Mailer and Hunter S. Thompson have written books about. Nowadays, anyone can access those types of stories with a Twitter account instead of needing a library card and a quiet place to read.

I guess what I'm saying is it's always been like this. We just didn't know it. Thanks, Mark. Mark. Oh, and one more part. There's another one from Mark that came into my inbox that I think you should hear. And it's dated August 16th, 2022. Dear Bart, congratulations on successfully writing out this COVID pandemic and resting control from the powers that be at 1250am the fan and putting your personal signature on the 6am to 10am time slot. Having your own am sports talk radio show is something that can never be taken from you.

I mean, only an idiot would change a format that has worked so well up until this point. Chose no signs of slowing down. Thanks, Mark. So there is that email. So I'll listen to the rest of the podcast.

I can only assume it's more constructive criticism. Have a great day. Love you, pal. And rest in peace, Todd, the producer. Yeah, he's mentioning a couple of guys. Mark used to email in quite a bit. I will have to check my junk mail. I'm glad Sean is getting those. Producer Todd with three D's did do he's did die.

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He says, hey, Bart, this is real. Possible show idea in the spirit of the draft coming up, draft a new Milwaukee radio station from current former personalities, help pick three people and redraft the stations. Wow. That would be interesting. You know what would be interesting if like I was the representative. So let's say let's say there was a complete radio redraft, but the representatives were like a guy like me. Who is from the twelve fifty empire that fell, someone from the game and someone from ESPN, these are the Milwaukee stations, and you could have a representative for each. I'm almost 100 percent sure that I would get all the twelve fifty guys. I'm 100 percent I'm almost 100 percent sure like I won't have to be like, oh, I want to be like, oh, I want a pro football Hall of Famer on my team. I'll take Leroy or I want to be like, oh, I need Sparky.

I'll take him. Because I do think what happened is when at a level much higher than anything that happens in this city, it was decided to basically throw our station in the thin air. The other stations looked and said, well, that's all the proof we need.

Talking sports in Milwaukee is bad. OK, well, if that's true, why did I just crank out and let me verify this? Why did I just crank out episode 150 of this podcast that you're listening to?

Yeah. Editor's note, it's actually 148, but 150 sounded cooler. 150 shows, guys. We did it. Look at where we're at, baby. 150. Here's to 50 more. Editor's note that would put Bart up to 198. Yeah, baby, we did it.

Live show on Sunday night. We're talking bucks and whoever. It doesn't matter. I love it. And every one of you as if you were my own flesh and blood. That's my new sign off. Little extreme. Oh, well.