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You need Indeed. Good morning, everybody. My name is Bart Winkler. Welcome to the Bart Winkler Show, June 1st, which means sober May is over, which means cheers. I'm very happy with my month of sobriety. If I can start there, I'm upset that I didn't really lose any weight.

And in fact, well, you know what I should I should look glass half full. I didn't gain any weight. So I had a lot of rocky months where I was gaining weight. I didn't I didn't gain any weight. I've been getting real rest.

But I've also noticed I'm actually a little angrier, but I've been off the meds, anxiety pills. And I have this weird thing with my feet. My feet are killing me. It's not gout like we thought before. My feet always hurt.

We'll find out I should probably go to a doctor instead of tell it to you guys. All right. So much to get to. The bulk of this show is a conversation I had with Grant and Paul. Grant Pills and Paul Imig, of course, about Mark Murphy that turned into a Packers Mount Rushmore conversation. I could have tacked it on last week's episode. I did want to save it to make it its own thing, because I really think that it's an interesting conversation. Yes, we are doing a Mount Rushmore episode. Strap in. And I'm glad that it's being posted today.

I could have posted it last week, but I'm glad that I saved it for today. First of all, the conversation came about because I wondered if Mark Murphy goes on the Packers Mount Rushmore after he got the draft. He's built title town. He's won a Super Bowl if he navigates this era into another Super Bowl. I mean, at what point do we start if we're looking at everybody Packers related?

And I wouldn't put him on. We go through that in a little bit. I think Paul has a harder time figuring out what we're trying to do, which it's it straddles the line between funny and challenging with with his perception of what Mount Rushmore means. But Mark Murphy, I don't know. Like, is he is he top 10 most important Packer people, influential Packer people when it's all said and done?

You know, he's got some time left a couple of years, but I think we're going to find that out. I think that, yeah, he's get made fun of for that sledding hill. But he is. He saw a lot of positive change in Green Bay. So plus, I saw him on the day of my wedding when I got married at Lambeau. Didn't say hi.

Should have done some. Should have been like, why didn't I say hi? I've met him before. I've talked to him before.

Not that he knows me, but I should have at least gone up to him saying, Hey, Mark, I'm getting married up there tonight. The fuck did I do that for? Stupid. That's dumb. So we'll talk about that.

But I'm glad I hope it's like a nice palate cleanser for whatever happened on Wednesday. I have retired from the Aaron Rodgers off the field commentary. Like, so this article comes out in the athletic for match statement. And basically, basically, Matt puts the article at five in the morning and sits by his phone all day waiting for phone calls for radio hits.

I'm just assuming. But he puts out this article and it's, you know, it's Rogers saying some things which like, it's just, I don't know. It felt like everything that was in that article we'd already known. We're just getting Rogers maybe version of it, which is pretty much still the same. It's like watching a movie. We already saw the two hour movie that was the end of the Rogers era.

And now we've got a few of the deleted scenes, which didn't really add much context. It's interesting. If like, if you want to know the full story, we should of course hear from Aaron, but I don't know that I would get too worked up about it. If I were to break down the article with you, which I'm retired from doing, all I would end up doing is saying the same things that I've said about him over and over again.

And so, yeah, if I was on the radio, I'd probably milk that baby for all it's worth. You know, it's summer months here and there's a, the bucks aren't in the playoffs and the brewers lost the other night one on Wednesday and I watched the game and we'll talk about that coming up. My man, Abraham Toro, my man, Julio Tehran, I do, I, all this, I don't get into the brewers stuff. That was an error by me. Cause I do.

It's just the NBA can't be on. And I think that's okay. That's, that's, that, you know, I, that's what I learned about myself in this sober May, but with the Rogers stuff in that article, I hope it's like, all right, that's the final thing. Now we can move on and talk about the Packers.

Although I will tell you interestingly enough, so much of what was happening in the morning was discussion and discourse about this Rogers piece of the athletic. And I'm, I'm with the, I'm with the people that are telling, you know, the Bukowski's of the world, shut up, talk about the PA talk about the Packers. This guy's not a Packer anymore.

I don't care if he didn't say no comment or whatever the excuse was. I want to hear about the Packers. He's not a Packer anymore.

I want to hear about the Packers. And then later that afternoon, people are doing play by play of OTAs. And I'm like, shut the fuck up. No one cares. I will say like OTA video is neat. You know, anytime you get to see the guys in pads and, or even like playing or, you know, Hey, it's, it's Jordan love thrown a musk grave. One of our tight ends.

Hey, you know, it's, it's great to see. I don't need to see like love drop back intercepted by Savage. That doesn't do anything for me. I need to see if you're going to, if you're going to tweet and provide content online about the Packers at this time of the year, it's gotta be video based. I can't just look at what am I supposed to do with these words? It's may they're not even, they're just like running and maybe, maybe, maybe we don't like, okay, now I'm certain.

Maybe, maybe we don't need any of this. Imagine if it's spring training for the brewers, we not only saw the spring training games, but at 9 0 AM, when they all do the workouts, Todd Rosie was like, Owen Miller, good picks throws over to Teles. Nice play. We'd be like, they're playing against them. They're not even playing. They're doing drills.

What is this? So I was like, talk Packers, talk Packers. And then people talk Packers. I'm like, no, shut the shut up. Also stop talking. I think mainly I just need kind of a break from that might be my June break. I took a may break from booze. I should take a June break from Twitter. Cause Twitter's grinding me out, man. Whether it's the Packers discourse or, you know, the bucks hire Adrian Griffin, but it hasn't been announced yet officially. And people are like yelling at the bucks beat guys. We need more info and what's going on. And how did the interview process go?

And why did they pick them? Like, I don't know, relax. People, people, it seems to me that people really want to define the Adrian Griffin era of bucks basketball before the guy even has a press conference. Well, why is the press conference not happened yet? I don't know, man. It's going to be fine.

Everything's going to be fine. They hired, they, the bucks needed to hire someone. They hired someone they liked.

Is he the right guy? I don't know. Did you want Nick nurse? Maybe you did. Do you need reassurances that if you want to Nick nurse, the bucks made a better choice than your choice? Yeah, maybe you do.

Maybe you'll get those later. Just stop it. Also, what are we boycotting today?

This is really grinding my gears. I thought we were in like cancel culture. I thought we were trying to prevent cancel culture. Now we're canceling everything. If it's got a rainbow on it, actually that reminds me of my son got sent home from daycare on Monday because he wore, he wore a Sesame street shirt where they were all standing by a rainbow.

And on St. Patrick's day, he got sent home because he had a rainbow with a pot of gold. Yeah. Now that makes sense. We, I just, we just need to, we just need to relax. It's like, I used to think robots were going to take over the world. I think our brains are just going to all combust from trying to cram so much information into it and trying to have so much fake outrage. Like how are you not exhausted?

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Think bigger name the stadium. No. Does he get a street named after a street name?

Oh, definitely. What have we not named yet? Mount Rushmore. Oh my gosh. Green Bay Packers. By the way, what I thought you were going to say was that they're going to recall it Mount Murphy.

Maybe you will. Rushmore. One of the greatest Fond du Lac story ever. There was a flood in 2008, which was bad. It was like one of these hundred year floods that now happen every other March. Everything was flooded. People had all this shit and they know where to put it. So organically, there was like this pick and save that was closed. So organically, people just started to dump their trash there. And then everyone in the town just said, Oh, where did you dump your trash? Oh, they called it Mount Trashmore and all of a sudden Fond like just had this giant thing of trash that nobody knew how to do it.

And it was Mount Trashmore. But yes, Murphy, Super Bowl, draft, title town. I'm just, I'm just let you, I'm not saying today.

I'm saying maybe the next time you have trouble sleeping, maybe think about that a little bit. Uh, Bob, Bob Harlan versus Mark Murphy, greater Packers legacy. Well, things are different eras. I mean, Harlan had to navigate. When you're making a Mount Rushmore, you have to account for said eras. Yeah, that's true.

All right. So the Mount Rushmore of the Green Bay Packers, what do you got? The Mount Rushmore of the Green Bay Packers is, and by the way, it can be players. It can be anyone, executives, players, anyone. Well then Murphy's not on it.

Well, no, but who is star rod, star Farve Rogers. No, fuck that. I don't think you can put all three. No, no, no, no. I don't think you don't have room for all three. That would be like putting George Washington, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson on Mount Rushmore. Like you can't do it.

It can't be all. I would love to hear who were, I mean, we have to, you know, Lombardi and Lambo are the two shoe ins, but look, but here's my counter for like Lambo is he got the field. He was racist.

Yeah. He has the field. Lombardi is, I think Lombardi was the coach for like 40 years and he was the one at the city. You know, who should be on the Mount Rushmore is George Hallis, but it's already called don't exist without him. People hashtag forget.

So tell me, tell me why it's not. Tell me who's in place of Lombardi star Farve Rogers, Lambo, but I'm saying when you already have Lambo field, I think you're accounted for. You you're, you're, you've got your thing. We have the Washington national. We have the Washington monument and he's on Mount Rushmore taking him off. No, no, Paul. That's not what this is. We're not actually building a Mount Rushmore.

Not no, I, I would, I would still keep them on, keep them off. Oh, he started the packers. That's great. If that's great.

That's great. Mark Murphy like gets up the biggest dam in the country. Like he's Herbert who curly, curly Lambo is the first person you chisel. No, he was the coach for 29 years. Now you're talking about eras though.

Like it was like six champions, but this is like talking about the, he was all pro is all irrelevant though, because there was what, how many teams were there? Paul, he started the packers and he has Lambo field as a result. That's not stop that saying that, but that's important. No, it's not. Yes, it is. His, his legacy has been, so you're saying, Paul, stop doing this.

Let's pretend it's called city park and then Lambo be on the Mount Rushmore. So let's be clear. You're saying that he's the first draft pick. Yes.

Probably, probably. Do you know how Paul, there are no Packers without him. Not only did he start the Packers, he had to fight like a hundred different fucking times to keep them here. Here's my question. Fine. Uh, I might have to put more thought into this, but is there anything, is there anything that anyone could do to ever like, is he unseatable as probably the guy that then is the shoe in number two is Lombardi. I agree with that.

No, he can't be on because he has a clock outside the stadium because there's a Lombardi trophy, Paul, but that's not specific to the green Bay Packers. That's for that is true though. That's a good point. That's a good point. God damn. So far of Rogers or star probably only have one.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why? Why?

Why wouldn't you get two? Why is it gotta be a quarterback? Tell me who it is. Tell me who else it is that Mitch key honest to God Packer. I think so.

You're not in agreement that it should be. I want to, I want to, I need to spend this. This is what's hard about being on the other side of is that sometimes you're not prepared. Whereas I can come, I come loaded with my Eric's bolster shit. He's prepared to ask. He's, he's not prepared to answer Bart. That's all right.

You're rewriting the game and I didn't sign up for this. Lambo is on Lombardi's on. I definitely agree with Lombardi. I unquestionably agree.

So I definitely have one spot, maybe two. Paul that, that you're, what you're basically saying is like Bud Selig's on the Brewers, Mount Rushmore. Sorry. Right.

That's cause the brewers have no one else to put on there. He brought the team here and kept them here for 30 years. And because selling them to a person who like, who had to keep them in the one Lambo did the same thing. Keep going. I'm not disagreeing. I need to, I generally mean this cause I'm going to read it.

I'm going to read some more to make sure I have a full, go ahead. I think a lot of people are going to say the star Rogers and far will come up, but under what I'm doing, so we're putting Lambo and Lombardi. Now, does that mean the next two spots are two of the three quarterbacks? I don't necessarily think so.

So give me, so give some nominations and this has nothing to do with ways. I feel cause I don't like Brett Farve. I don't let my star Farve on there.

Is that where you're going? Wait, I don't let my son play with Brett Farve toys. He's an awful human. I have Rogers toys that he plays with because as I've said, Rogers, I think it's pretty clear how I feel about Rogers. He's not a bad guy. He's a great guy.

I just don't like anything about him. Rogers is third of the three to go on Mount Rushmore. I think I'm okay with that.

And, and part of that, keep going, go for it. He's contemplating. Farve might get it over star. We've already, we need another era represented star coach, but sucked far played for the Vikings.

You never heard hurts his case. You might be the Rogers is not on the Mount Rushmore of Green Bay Packers. Rogers is not on.

Yeah. And I think whoever out of the three, if all the resumes remained the same, I don't think whoever comes third is getting it because they don't, they don't represent, they don't signify the same things like Farve resurrected the franchise in the nineties. Rogers didn't do that, but that's not necessarily his fault because he came after. You think Reggie, like if you look at retired numbers, okay. You think Reggie Reggie had a lot of his career with the Eagles.

I mean, Donna Hudson could be somebody that we put on there. This is where I get, I go back to like, he has the Hudson center. So like, to me, that's a really, really, really, the way you are. So stupid. This is not the question ball. How are you so dense about this?

Continue. We're not making a new Mount Rushmore. It's like talking with Ram.

I have, if I don't take it as a literal, they're building it, then what are, why are we doing it? I agree. I do. You agree with me? No, I know where you're coming from. I see where it's just funny that you keep a list of what's named after who just ready to go. That's why I have nothing ready to go.

You've got a street stars, got star Plaza across at the reg center. Not as, not as important as a field or a practices facility, but okay. He's got a break. What means more? This is so awesome. No way you would know. Okay. You would rather have the practice facility or the stadium named after you than a street, right? Yeah.

A lot of people have streets or a Plaza. Yeah. Who would, but who would be the fourth? So we think Lambo Lombardi quarterback of choice. I think Farve is a good way to go. I think right now I'm at Lambo Lombardi star and Farve.

Okay. I don't know that there's another person that's so overwhelming to kick either Farve or Rogers. Rogers is in the conversation. Who else is in?

I'm really curious. It would be like six, seventh and eighth place. I don't know that Holmgren always gets his due for what he did in the nineties. He quit on the team.

He did have a messy exit. So I do think that that's part of it. Hudson has to be in there. Hmm. Uh, Paul Horning. Why haven't we said Nitschke yet? Yeah. Nitschke.

I probably have Nitschke higher than the last couple you've named. Yeah. I don't know. This is tough.

God, no rush. Look, now I'm just going to be a total like, because I have to, I have to be me here for a second. I have no choice but to be me if I like me, I I'm a pretty big fan.

One of my biggest is missing myself. If they were literally building it, Bart, they're literally building it for real. And Lambeau field is Lambeau field. Um, I, I like don't, this is worse. I can't, I don't, I can't understand this. I need to know why is George Washington on Mount Rushmore when there's the Washington monument, they're like, like a thousand miles apart from each other. Holy shit. Paul, it's called Washington DC. Okay. And there's a Washington monument and a Washington state. Yeah.

I think this is so funny. So if you were building it for real though, it would not work. Like I'm going to force you to answer the question. If you're building it for real, no matter where your name has been elsewhere, you are still allowed to be on it. I'm not saying you're not allowed.

It doesn't disqualify you. Okay. This is my favorite part. Just so you know, this is really, that's what this is. This is how you used to get with Chuck over certain things. Do you understand?

Because he'd be so stupid about something. Mount Rushmore are the brewers. Okay.

Sealing number one, because if you found a team and keep a team in a city, you're on the Mount Rushmore. Well, as long as we're setting precedents that you see what I did there. I agree. I agree.

You're the one who's not in agreement over Lambeau. Right. Okay. All right.

Sealing. And then I was going to say Molitor, Braun, yeah. Yeah. That's one of those.

Gotta go for Euchre. Oh, you're right. Good point. You're right. God, it sucks.

Council. It probably isn't going to win a world series manager. Cause if he did be interested, maybe if Rogers had won a second Superbowl at the Packers, does he, does he elevate to Mount Rushmore in Green Bay? He's higher than Farve.

Okay. He would have passed Farve, right? Euchre, Sealing, Braun. I don't know, Farve, Farve.

He changed the whole thing. Like, okay. So Euchre, Sealing, Braun.

I have to say, I'd say Yount. Because Yount has remained part of Brewers. He's, he's a brewer. Molitor's a twin. Molitor bailed. He went to the, Molitor's a blue jay. He's a twin.

But they went to a world series, allegedly. Yeah. It's, it's Braun, Yount, Euchre, Sealing.

I love that Braun's on there. Bucks. Bucks. Oh, this is so fun.

Even though like I've gotten under your skin. Giannis, Kareem, Herb Cole. He kept the team here. I was going to bring this up early. I was going to bring this up. I said, okay, so if we're doing a Bucks Mount Rushmore, does that mean Herb Cole has to be on it? You've set the precedent, motherfucker. There's no hardcore precedent for Mount Rushmore.

Bart has set the precedent. If the team, if the team won championships. The difference between Curly Lambo and Herb Cole is the difference between like a giant and an ant.

There's a big difference, but it's not a ton different necessarily than Sealing and the Brewers. What about Larry Costello? Could Curly Lambo have a successful political career?

Do we give credit? Does Herb Cole get credit for that in the sports realm? What about John McLaughlin?

He's Mr. Buck. He's gotta be under consideration actually. Marcus Johnson. What about, this guy was part of the 1971 championship team. Marvin Winkler. He's on there. Bobby Dandridge.

Oscar Robertson. Giannis, is it possible that Chris Middleton's on there? No.

No. Shut up. Should get his number retired though and will, should and will.

Should and will get his number retired is not even on the nomination form for Mount Rushmore. Agreed. All right. How about Admirals?

Zoner check. No, no, no. I don't feel like we've gotten even close to Bucks yet. So wait, it's Giannis and Kareem, right? Like they're the first two you start carving. Yeah. I think honestly you'd carve them twice.

You carve them in a road in a way, road and home jerseys. We're not, I mean, how Kareem left Milwaukee is not such a stain that it. No one cares anymore cause we got Giannis. We get Lou Alcindor and we get Kareem.

And we get Giannis Adetokounmpo and Giannis Adetobo or whatever his name is. The alphabet. It'll just say the alphabet under his head.

I really want it. I'm not, I'm not going to be able to rest. We can name a trash can at the park for Ted Davis. Well, I was going to say, Oh, so Ted Davis isn't on the Mount Rushmore.

Okay. No, he's in Mount trash. He can get, he can get a drinking fountain, a nice, a stone brick drinking fountain.

And he can be bitter the whole time that he's there. We don't have to say too much, but I think someone needs to at least mention Jim Paschke from Bucks. He deserves a mention.

Well, yeah, but then I would put a McLaughlin over him. I would too. Interesting. Really? Who's three and four.

I don't know. Maybe we can leave that up to the Carl's place voicemail. If George Carl hadn't Ray Allen Ray Allen, he was on his way. He achieved Hollywood fame while I'm a walkie buck. If we're counting the outside achievements, I think we're sleeping on Marcus Johnson a little bit and I wasn't around for that era, but his impact for the bucks.

Like my mom asked my mom, my mom, my parents have never been diehard bucks fan since they were little. Hey, if Michael Jordan is a poster of you on his wall, original MJ, and he's, he's still got ties to the franchise. I think he's awesome on TV. He's so good. He's great. Steve Novak speaking of good on TV. He's on the book burning hall of fame, Mount Rushmore. So Glen Robinson's not, we don't know big dog, no Cassell nor George Carl. I mean, I mean, he's iconic. So what I want to do is when we decide guys who aren't on the Mount Rushmore, we need to assign an American monument to them.

Like when I said like, uh, Mike shirt, not Mike Sherman, Mike Holmgren is like Herbert Hoover. And he gets the dam in Las Vegas. Like that's, I like this.

We could really do something with this. I know we, any, so if you're to take more talk on the Bart Winkler show is brought to you by Omaha. For your father's day gathering by happy place 25% off with the promo code B A R T by Carl's plate golf stimulators for you and yours. Carl's place online and by Dan Cheney insurance Perkins basketball from little Caesars arena in Detroit, Michigan.

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I miss the Fox sports, Wisconsin music baseball and basketball. Oh, that guy is shredding. Yeah. You know what? If you like, if you had a band, we can wrap this up.

If you had a band and you played at summer Fest, how do you not just bust out the Fox sports Wisconsin song as you're fucking set over the shit out of that song shred through a whole guitar, but then you would need your lead singer to be like bucks basketball. Yeah. Yeah, I'll do it. Yeah. Oh yeah. And then you bring Paschke out on stage and he's got like the mic and he's like what's basketball by the way, what is the Mount Rushmore of Andrew McMahon songs part? He sucks. I don't know who that is. Now you do. Well, I don't, he sucks. I don't know who he is.

He's fine. What's the Mount Rushmore. I was genuinely offended last night. Just so you know, what's the Mount Rushmore of 1250 am the fan. There we go. Wow. Steve Sparky Pfeiffer. Yeah.

By the way, we didn't talk. I mean, we didn't mention the Roy's name for the Mount Rushmore. He should have, he was deserving of a mention. Can cutting edge outdoors just collectively get a spot on the Mount Rushmore. I don't know what you would carve, but who else would, who's under like top consideration addition to in addition to Sparky. I've got it. I've got the, I've got the four. Okay. I'll tell you if you're right or not. I think, um, Sparky's there.

Yeah. He's George Washington. So we've got Ellison wicket, Freeman and two of those are right.

Wonkler. Two of those are right. I think it's Sparky, Gary, Chuck, and bill. I was going to say unit should probably be on there. Is there anyone that's like from the, what about Tim Allen?

I think Tim Allen's on there for me. He kick off bill bill. I don't know.

I don't know. But Tim is like his, you know, last pitch, make the switch. I mean, that's, that's a good one. So then Gary's Gary and Sparky are there. I think it's Gary Sparky.

Oh my God. So then if, if Tim's on, then maybe Chuck's off. I think bill's on bill was statewide. Yeah. But bill when they got bill, it was like, when they got bill, it was like, before I came and tried to destroy him every day, it was like, um, it was a big deal.

Yeah, it was. Well now, now every Tom Dick and Harry with more than one affiliate calls himself statewide. Bill is bill is statewide. Like I am not statewide. I actually don't know where like the game has affiliates, but no one statewide like bill like bill should be the only one who gets to say from the lakefront to the riverfront. I agree. Some people may be on affiliates across the state, but that doesn't mean people are listening to them. I don't know exactly what that means, but I agree with you.

If you live in Eagle river, you don't like show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You like bill show you like bill and bill can do the show.

I see. I used to argue that bill show was too statewide. And it's, it's not like bill hides that he's in Milwaukee. Like he'll talk about concerts and events that he's doing, but he does it in a way that's more palatable. Cause I listened to a lot of these shows and there are some shows that are like, w we happen to be on other stations, but we don't care. Like we're going to do the show as a Milwaukee show. And if other people want to come along for the ride, fine. Bill is not like that.

So speaking of like topics that can be very casual, but can also be very nuanced. We did, we did mote Rushmore. We took it very seriously and it rocked like this was great. And now I have to go separate on YouTube and I'm putting a 95% chance on the possibility that come back next week and apologize vehemently about my hundreds. I couldn't, I still can't get past the fact that he's already got his thing. I'm going to start over here. I'm sorry.

It's really good. I think that's awesome that your brain is working that way. Paul it's stuck. I don't want it to be the fact that the concept of the mountain Rushmore is the easiest to grasp and you can't figure it out is ridiculous. No, I can figure it out in a deeper level than you are thinking about it.

Grant and Paul, what a dynamo those two nasty boys are. I do want interaction on that. I do want to know from you guys, cause we've been trying to figure out like what is the right Mount Rushmore. And I know that this is a topic I would make fun of, but it did happen organically. And so I don't know. I don't know. I'm, I'm being a hypocrite. All right. Got some voicemails on the Carl's place voicemail line, four Oh two nine one five B a R T four Oh two nine one five B a R T that's two two seven eight.

Carla VT.com backslash Bart. They again have your golf simulators. They've got new, um, curtains now that you can put on the side in case you do have Aaron balls, just because you're standing in front of a simulator doesn't mean you're going to hit it towards the simulator. Uh, so they've got different accessories that can help you a bunch of different accessories too. They've got, they've got the simulator, they've got all that, but then however you want to use it and increase it, I would just say, look, I don't look, I talk about this a lot. I don't know if you're in the market for a golf simulator or not. I would just go to the website and check it out. Use Bart Winkler show.com. Go to the link, check it out, check out all the different features.

Cause if you, if you're not able to get one, maybe like you can rope your father-in-law or something into it. I mean the, the, when, when me and Toby were there and we were able to then use the video to see how our balls were shooting. I mean, it was, it was unbelievable. Uh, so I definitely have to get back there. They're based out of Milton. I'll have to get back there and uh, let Carl give me another 18 and dust off my chops. Maybe a little bit, but the Carl's place voicemail line for a two nine one five B a R T. I've got one from hot take Jake and uh, here he is.

Hey Bart, it's me, the people's champ. Just had a call in mainly on this Aaron Rogers article with the athletics from your boy match. And I've been the first thing first, uh, the EW show, the pay-per-view this weekend, it was made maybe their worst show to date. Um, generally they put on good shows, but, um, I also want to get Paul some shit cause, uh, speaking of mid MJF is mid he's a dude trying to play professional wrestler. Let me say this about MJF that I disagree with that. I think MJF is great.

I think this, the four pillars, it's better to have it than to never have it. But I think it did. And Paul, I don't know if you'll agree with this and if you do, you'll never admit it. I think it lowered MJF more than it elevated the other three guys.

Now I haven't watched last night's yet, so we'll see what the fallout is. But I'm team MJF bidding war of 2024. Get him to the E and he does all the cheap heat shit. Give LA night a push.

Then you'll have a real heel at the top. Um, yeah, I got to talk about this Aaron Rogers stuff. Um, look, the guy is so full of shit. I read the entire article. Um, and I think all Packers fans, even though I know you're not a huge fan of Schneiderman should go ahead and read that article.

Um, because you're going to walk away from it. If you're a true Packers fan, like I did just even more, um, strong in your Packers fandom and just saying, fuck this guy in reference to our former QB, mr Q and on himself. Um, there's just, I got nothing left for him. There's the guy just drips with insincerity, all the stuff about the OTAs, all the stuff about, um, what was it?

Uh, the, the FaceTime, the phone call, all that crap. Um, the guy, it's just, it's so blatantly that he's full of shit. This whole thing is for his ego. Everything in the article is I, I, I, there's very, very little weeds, the reference of the team. Um, the whole, he's a bullshit about not being able to connect with good accounts. I mean, I said it enough. Now the guy is completely full of shit.

So again, if you can read that and walk away with any other attitude other than fuck this dude, I got nothing left for you. Just go live with Ryan Horvat and fantasy land jerking off to old highlights from 12 years ago or 13 years ago, whenever it was. Meanwhile, I was true fans are going to continue to rock the Jeep. Thanks buddy. Now, one of the things, cause Jake had said to me on Twitter on Wednesday, have an emergency pod for it. I think a little tongue in cheek, but I reminded Jake that I'm retired from everything.

He just said, I'm retired from saying, um, what it was important for me to do is I thought the color aspect of the radio show was so important. That's why I like to go live. That's why I made sure to rush that voicemail line out as quick as possible. Cause I want to hear your opinions as much as mine. Like obviously I want you to hear my opinions.

Uh, I mean, I would die without it, but I do value those of others. Um, despite me, I think in this episode alone, shitting on a lot of non-barred opinions, but that's why the voicemail line exists so that you guys can say your piece. And sometimes the things that I can no longer say, uh, that being said, I do have another voicemail.

Oh, let's go ahead and give this a listen. Uh, this one, I don't, I didn't have this one's number. I don't know who it is.

Yes. Hello Bart. I really love your show.

Um, my name is, it doesn't matter who my name is. I just wanted to comment on the Eric Rogers piece that Matt Schneidman wrote. Um, I find it interesting that Aaron Rogers was quoted as saying, I thought Ross ball more than anybody really showed that he cared and showed a lot of personal growth.

And I give him credit for that. I know you have said that you have retired from talking about Aaron Rogers, but if you saw that comment, that would have to be the one to try to force you out of retirement. I would think for Aaron Rogers to try to say he's judge jury and executioner about what a 65 year old man can do for personal growth. Rose ball does not have time in his life anymore to have personal growth. Rose ball is an old guy who doesn't change cause he's old.

And the last thing he's going to do is have personal growth for a premature, immature beta questionable piece of shit like Aaron Rogers. Anyway, totally my words, not yours. Enjoy your retirement. Love this. Love the show. Goodbye.

Wow. I mean just a tremendous person that must've been and kudos to him, whoever that was for saying what needed to be said and what maybe I couldn't say, uh, Oh, I should play this too hot. Take Jake. Matt in the falls is mad at you. The other day you said, hi, it's me. If that weirdo in the bathtub can say it. Hello.

This is Matt in the falls. This message is for hot. Take Jake. Um, wow. Um, I just heard, heard you call me the weird guy in the bathtub and uh, that hurt.

I thought we were on the same team and hurt, hurt, Jake and hurt. Yes. Alright.

Um, so you guys will have to make that up a little bit if you can. Why don't you guys both join me and everybody else who'd like to after the NBA finals on this Thursday night, we will be going live after the NBA finals on Thursday night. I did go live on Monday after game seven, just talked for about 20 minutes and thankfully I had something in the can to also play.

I'm not preparing any more of a show than a live show on Thursday night. I would appreciate the interaction. I want to talk NBA finals. I want to talk nuggets. I want to talk, um, heat. I want to talk brewers. If you want to talk brewers, they've got a day game here on this Thursday, uh, but have split the series so far.

I've mentioned them in a second. I think as far as the finals go, uh, like I said on CBS last weekend, when it looked like it was going to be three Oh three Oh, when both teams were up three Oh, and it looked like it was going to be a sweep on both sides. I said that I saw someone tweet nuggets and five, and I was pissed because I was like, how do you still doubt the heat? I think nuggets and five might be the play though.

There they, I mean they should win. I know the heat went in there and one, two in Boston, but this is in Denver. The home court is crazy. The elevation Miami's just coming off that seven game series. I think I'll go six.

I think I'll go nuggets and six, five feels too quick. Jimmy Butler's got to have a game where he produces. I think, you know, a lot of this is going to be up to bam. I think bam needs to have a big series. You know, Caleb Martin had a good series, Michael Porter, jr. And Aaron Gordon, Jamal Murray. I think, I think Jokic Jokic is the most important player in the series than Jimmy. And then bam.

Bam's got to figure it out. Murray then, uh, then maybe Porter jr. Tyler heroes aiming to come back by game three. I think the greatest thing was, so if you're betting on this at all, there are a bunch of different bets you can make. You got to go with Jokic for MVP. If you're even going to bet on that, it's really only Jokic or Jimmy Butler that are going to win MVP. Don't even throw a dart on Jamal Murray. Don't even throw a dart on Caleb Martin. So the funniest thing I think about that last series besides Boston blowing it was Jimmy Butler won the Eastern conference finals, MVP, six votes. He had Caleb Martin had five.

So it was very close. And one of the people that voted for Jimmy was Reggie Miller. Despite the entire series, Reggie Miller saying Caleb Martin has to be the MVP. Then when push comes to shove, he votes for Jimmy.

That was weird. So that just goes to show you a lot of times, no matter how good some of these others are, it's going to be the main guys that get the MVP votes. I guess I'll go nuggets and six. I don't really see the heat winning this, but I am intrigued in the finals. You've got what the heat did and what the nuggets did. And now you get to see them together and you know, people can tweet all they want or talk about TV ratings.

Look, we're not in the business. Like if you care about the NBA finals, it doesn't matter what you're going to watch. And this is going to be a compelling series. Who's not interested about seeing how the heat went through the heat and seeing how the nuggets went through the West. Who's not interested in seeing those teams come together and seeing how everything fixes fit fits together. Now it's very interesting.

Sure. Miami's not Boston and Denver's not the Lakers, but man, it doesn't need to be in the NBA. A little hidden secret here is actually sort of leaning away from that. They're making it harder for teams. They want parody. So there's going to be all this talk about ratings is silver. This is what they want.

They want parody because they're making it harder. If you have two guys like the Celtics, if they give a max contract to Tatum and Brown, they're going to have like no other room to do anything else. There there's new CBA has made it harder for these teams to kind of have the super team or even have two guys on a max. Really interesting. Uh, Jalen Brown odds by the way, from bet online.aig, Jalen Brown next team, if not Boston, two to one Atlanta, three to one Milwaukee.

That's interesting. Uh, I do want to talk a little bit more. We'll do this next week or we can, we can get into this on the post game. There's a lot of talk about, you know, what to do with these guys, whether you keep drew Brook and Chris and move Bobby or Grayson, whether you move a drew, move a Chris, if you can, I know he was involved in those meetings, but, uh, I'd like to talk, you know, live after the finals about the finals, but anything you have on the box, maybe you're worried about the coaching thing and I'm not, let's talk about that. I just want, you know, I just want to be, have an excuse to go live again.

I was planning on going live like 30 different times in may. And then, well, we all remember what happened. Bucks lost to the heat who somehow made the NBA NBA finals. Brewers get a win on Wednesday night, a good win four to two Julio Tehran.

They pick out out of nowhere. He's got a 0.8 to ERA and two starts. Now for the crew, Devin Williams was saved number nine on the year.

Abraham Toro comes up and hits a home run. He was involved in the winker Wong and, uh, yeah, that deal. I don't think like it took both of those guys as Wong as winker hit a home run yet.

Cause I saw the one tweet Colton. Wong doesn't have any Colton. Wong sucks. Colton Wong stinks. He's bad. Uh, Jesse winker is also terrible.

I feel like he's homeward at least once this year. Hasn't he? No. Holy fuck. Wow. So everyone in that trade, uh, the one guy that Homer was Abraham Toro and he did it in his first at bat. Wow, man.

I thought winker would be better than this. He had a bad year in Seattle, but he was really good on the reds. Jesus.

He sucks. Uh, so Julio Tehran, very good. First quality start since September 7th, 2019. Also the brewers are now 24 and four when they score at least four runs. So they're 24 and four when they score at least four runs that would make them five and 22 and they don't. So four is definitely the magic number with this team. Brewers play a day game in Toronto.

That'll be Thursday afternoon, 1207. Uh, as of me talking to you is Pittsburgh playing right now? Uh, they won. Brewers have a game lead in the central. So that's good. Red's on a little bit of a winning streak.

Yeah. Everybody's kind of right around 500, maybe a couple of games under, but brewers right now still in first place. The Badgers schedule came out at least the first handful of games. I love, love, love, love college football.

And I think one of the reasons I love it is because it's on 40 different channels. And I'd like to push back on some of these articles that are bitching that some of these games are on peacock now only. I'm not sure if the Badgers end up in that situation this year, because NBC has some big 10 games and they're throwing like some of the average ones on peacock.

When I worked at charter guys, I used to take calls on Saturdays when Oklahoma would, would host like Bethune Cookman at 11 o'clock. And I would get calls all day from people wanting to watch the game on pay-per-view like sooner pay-per-view for 4999 and people would pay up. All you gotta do if you want peacock is pay 5 99.

Plus you can get like deals all the time. I just went to cancel pizza. So one of the things I was doing was I went and took every subscription I had and press cancel to see if I could get a deal to stay.

I'm a real cheap ass and peacocks like, Oh, don't leave. We'll give it to you for $2 and 50 cents for the next three months. I didn't know. Okay. So I do that. I did that on all my things.

I've saved a bunch of money. This little smart tip from penny hoarder.com's Bart Winkler, but college football, we don't know like we don't, we know the Badgers schedule up through September. We don't know when their games are in October and November college usually post the games either six to 12 days beforehand. Now the game days are the same, but we don't know the times. I don't know if that would fly in the NFL. Maybe it would.

Maybe that's what they need to do. Cause in college, the Badgers play Ohio state Saturday, October 28th. We don't know what time that game is. You're like, well, that might be a night game.

Well, I don't know. Fox is the majority big 10 holder. This is not an ABC game. So that's probably going to be a noon game.

Fox highlights noon. So, but we don't know, and we're not going to know until like mid October what that Ohio state game is. So Tim Shay's got this big trip land and we don't know what time is that going to be, but we do know the times for the first four games for the Badgers, the opening weekend. It's a two 30 game at home against Buffalo. Then the following week they're at Washington state. You remember that game last year, Washington state came in here to camp Randall Badgers now returned the favor. They go to Pullman. That's a ABC game and that's on ABC cause they saw the back 12 big 10 network. Then that's at night big 10 network on the 16th against Georgia Southern. And then they plan Friday, the 22nd on FS one at six o'clock, but that's all we know so far, but we do know, but that's all for him so far as I am. Holy fuck.

As I am just about to wrap up this podcast, Jesus Christ. Monty Williams has agreed to a six year, $78 million contract with the pistons. It's the largest coaching deal in NBA history. What was bud making like five, six years, $78 million, 78 divided by six. That's 13 a year.

Incentives could go up to a hundred million shit. What's Spoelstra worth in like 30 million. Paul Paul just sent me that text. What I'm a Texan that what's Spoelstra worth then like 20 million, 30 million. So Paul, when you got that X last night, uh, if you're listening, I just sent it to you.

Don't forget guys. Omaha stakes promo code is Bart $30 off your packages. Use the promo code Bart at checkout and live Thursday night after game one of the NBA finals. We'll talk to you then on YouTube. Appreciate everybody. Be well, God bless the, uh, God bless the, the, uh, Lambeau field discussion. If you want to check that out on YouTube, that is on the Dan Cheney YouTube stream. So you can check that on YouTube, uh, along with my conversation with that guy talked about the bears the other day and our live reaction from the NBA finals will be on the Dan Cheney YouTube stream again tonight. Dan Cheney.com Dan Cheney.com. All right guys, have a good one. See you on Thursday. If you own a vehicle with less than 200,000 miles and have an auto warranty about to expire or no warranty coverage at all.

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