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Good whenever, everybody. My name is Bart Winkler. This is the Bart Winkler Show.
So I'm here, and Paul Emmick's here, and we're talking NBA Free Agency. And I took the 4th of July week off. And I said there might be an episode or two. And well, this is at least one of the episodes, and we're recording it Saturday night. Um Nothing like on a holiday weekend.
Two white dudes in their thirties. to get down and podcast about a sport they've really never played. At a true competitive level. Excuse me. Mm.
What's your highest? What's the highest level I played?
Sophomore year of high school. I did too. Did you? Rec League. Oh.
And I got booted to be the coach. You got I got kicked off my rec league team. How does that happen? I don't know. Same thing happened in college with volleyball, where they're like.
In inner murals. They're like, do you think you would like? Be cool if you were the coach, kinda. I was like, so I'm bad. I mean, just, I know I told you I was bad.
But every time I tell someone I'm bad, they're like, oh, okay, I. I'm bad. How do you golf? I'm bad. Oh, okay.
You shoot 82 then? No, I'm I shoot like 182, dude. I'm bad. I just said I was bad. I'm not trying to like.
Be humble. I'm fucking bad. You are. You and I would be a decent golf team 'cause I know you said that you can drive and I can putt.
So Well, I can pot. I need someone in the middle. Oh. Okay. Or I need to be able to hit off a T.
the whole time. I did at Summerfest participate in the Iron Jock Hole in One contest brought to you by 97-3 the game. None of the people were there at the time. But I did walk by Homer and Tony of ESPN. And I would have said hi because I'm friendly with Homer.
But uh Tony Smith was shitting on me one day for some reason, so. I don't know. Anyway. We're all having fun on a Saturday night, and so are we. Espectively.
Paul, you've got the jolly good. Uh Bubbly. Oh, bubbly? I thought it was a jolly good. Ah, just some carbonated water.
I've got Baja Blast Zero Sugar, which I saw for the first time. Yeah, zero sugar finally. As long as it's not. a diet soda with aspartame. Yeah, I don't think this has that.
You know, my mom's going to be vindicated because. She's been sending me Facebook messaging about Aspartame since two thousand seven. And we're all like, shut up, mom. Just drink the regular soda. It tastes better and you know calories are Calories are better than aspartame.
Hey, whatever. We'll find out. All right, so we'll start with the box. Oh yeah. Everybody's back.
For the most part, but like everybody's back. No Joe Engles, Orlando Magic, no Javon Carter, Chicago Bulls. I guess Carter would count a little bit, but we thought he would get a bag. Ingalls, I don't know. Maybe people expected him to come back.
I woke up, Paul. on Saturday morning. And I had to check Twitter. I had a dream that Brooke Lopez signed with the Hornets. And I was like.
We were never going to match that. No, you were not. But I'll start there just because it's the most recent. Two for 48. Yeah.
Yep. That's 24 per. Um they may have had to negotiate. With him and poach him from other teams if the money got to be an issue. But as Gary Wolfel tweeted.
Gary Wolfel had a tweet.
Something to the extent of Good job on the Bucks for not acting like a small market team and spending when they needed a guy. That they targeted.
So, wow. Even Gary's coming around. And some would say it's because Jabari Parker's back. Breaking news, he is not. What happened?
He's out of summer league. What uh Friday evening, he was on Summer League. What happened? I don't know about this. Yeah, Name tweeted it around noon on Saturday.
And I know maybe you couldn't. See tweets. Remember when Ron and Rome ditched the show because I ribbed on Elon? I said he'd do a bad job on Twitter and then he left me. Yeah, he pulled up for a family reason.
We don't know why. Oh, bummer.
So I hope it's okay, but I was really jacked to see Jabari again. I was too. Like I mean in completely unironically because It would be It's one of those like Who are we saying this about, Bart? Like the winner ring for blank. Um Who do we say that about during the Bucks run?
There was a couple guys. Oh, right. It was yeah. Yeah. Um Well, anyway, so let's let's talk about Brooke.
Chris Middleton was widely expected to happen. When you and I and Grant were talking about like the scenarios, like you know, he walks for nothing, or it's maybe a sign-in trade. Or they keep him. In the previous CAP world, the previous, excuse me, in the previous CBA world. We were throwing out numbers like, you know, four for 180.
That very was that was I mean, I'm not trying to say Middleton was coming off a good year or that he would have been worth four for 180, but that felt really realistic. For them to get him back for three. for 102. is incredible. The Bucks shaved, I think it was $10 million off the 2023, 24 books on Middleton from him declining his player option.
So you know, I've been hot and cold on Chris Middleton over the past ten years. Admittedly, This seems like he's doing the Bucks a real solid. No, Chris is never. Like he's never taken a contract that wasn't fair. Or was it unfair?
Yeah. I mean, on right away when the cap was going to go up before that Mozgov offseason. Yep. And nobody was making, like now they're making a lot of money, but nobody was making 10 million. Because checking what they would always argue: like anytime a guy made 10 million, based on football, or they started looking at them in a different way.
Yeah. And the $10 million mark was that. And then Chris goes four for $44. Yeah. which is absurd.
And then when you look at like, What he did on that and what the cap ended up going to. Such a bargain. Then he takes a big deal, which he deserved, but also. You know, they needed him and he helped them win a championship, and now. I think a lot of us thought it'd be four, but it's not four, which I think is a win because we want him for one, two.
We'll see about three, and we don't want four because of these and the age. And now it's three, and it's 33 per or whatever, and it's less than it was. I mean, Chris has never had had a deal. That Should elicit the kind of backlash it's elicited. From fans.
And maybe there's a fatigue, or you want to spend, but there's never been a deal that I think was like. There's just never been that. It's just really, when you look at it, it's never been that way. And one thing I was thinking about. As someone, by the way, I mean, who literally can see my signed Chris Middleton jersey hanging in my basement.
So it's not like I'm a Chris Middleton hater by any stretch of the imagination. But this is not exactly like the charismatic superstar guy, right? Like he just kind of shows up and shoots his mid-range jumpers, and, you know, he's not. A great quote. He's just sort of there, but he's really good.
He's very solid. He's been very good. I think the concern is that what is his decline? Going to be? How sharp is it?
How sharp is the decline? Was this past season indicative of where he's headed? If it is Not great. Right, but it was still a good playoff, Ron. And I say Ron.
Five games. Sure. I mean, yeah, and he was probably, not that this is saying a lot, their best player. Spread out over those five games, considering that Giannis missed. What, two and three-quarters of the would he miss?
Yeah, yeah, Giannis missed all but ten minutes of, yeah, right? Pretty much three games. Did Giannis miss? Or was it two games? Anyway, regardless, yeah, so.
But Chris Deal is really good. I have it sorted right now. The current deals that have been signed, I have it sorted based on. Total value, like the amount of total dollars. Do you know which player so far has the most guaranteed dollars in this NBA free agency offseason?
Do you know off the top of your head? What would be your guess? Uh You got the most guaranteed dollars of this off-season cycle. Lamello ball. I don't know if that counts because that's an extension.
But you would be right. Like, I think him or Desmond Bain. But among like. None.
Well, because keep in mind, like Lamello's deal won't kick in until the 2024, 25. What's it? Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks got eighty million. Jeremy Grant got twice that.
Oh, I forgot about him. Dude, Jeremy Grant. He's still gonna go through with it, I guess. They kinda s I mean, you don't have to. Like, they didn't sign the contract technically, but they would be burning bridges for, you know.
Way longer. Damian Lillard very clearly did his friend Jeremy Grant a solid here. But like Jeremy Grant got five for 160, which is. With or without Damian Lillard, it is like spit out your drink upon hearing it. Type of I think Jeremy Grant's good.
He is good. Like I was I was chatting with some friends about this um and like he's Aaron Gordon. Aaron, not Eric. He's Aaron Gordon. He's an energy player who can be like your fourth or fifth best guy on a championship team.
Who, even as the cap is going to go up, man, like five for 160. And then you compare that to Chris getting, you know, Chris is two years older. Than Jeremy Grant.
Okay. But clearly, there's been no point of Jeremy Grant's career where he's been. At Chris Middleton's level. Even like, that's just. That's a fact.
Middleton getting three for 102 when Jeremy Grant is getting five for 160. And not that you should necessarily compare that. You know, because what? Draymond Green got three for 100, right?
So. very comparable. Was it three years on the No, four for 100 for Traymond Green. The Chris deal is great. And he didn't even take.
Any other team signed Chris three for 103? They would be Ecstatic. Ecstatic. Yeah. And I, you know, again, I just want to give the credit, he didn't even take meetings.
He declined his player option. And made the bucks not sweat. at all.
So Give him credit. Like, Bucks fans give the guy credit. Brooke Lopez, on the other hand. Yes, let's start with Brooke. Talk about Chris for five minutes.
I know, sorry. It just kind of lends itself that way.
So. When you wake up on, you know, so Friday morning, Friday afternoon, five o'clock evening, when free agency starts, there's a lot of deals that come off the table. Brick Lopez doesn't. But I think it's fair to have thought that by Saturday morning Brooke Lopez would have signed somewhere. In the meantime, the Rockets give Fred Van Vliet three for One 40 what was it 120 128, three for 128, the Rockets gave to Fred Van, but then they still had enough to give.
Brooke Lopez like $25, $26 million if they wanted to. And presumably they offered Brooke Lopez every cent of that, which, by the way, that money then went to Dylan Brooks. like four for 180 for Dylan Brooks in Houston. Um But I was texting with some friends and I said like If it was even odds right now for Brooke Lopez to stay or go, and this was on Saturday morning. I think I would have bet on go, like leave.
for him not to for Brooke Lopez to not have signed by you know, Saturday late morning It was very, I mean, very obviously, it wasn't just leverage from the Rockets. The Rockets just got Van Vliet away from Toronto. It's not like this was like, this isn't like when Kyrie, quote unquote, took a meeting with the Sons, who had nothing to offer but the veteran minimum. Like, this was a very real threat for Brooke Lopez. And You know, much like with Middleton.
And maybe this is just fatigue, right? Like, we watch a ton of Bucs basketball. Middleton and Lopez, like, you know, I think it's natural for fans and observers to run hot and cold on players. I've been trying to trade Brooke Lopez for three years. I admit that.
Like, that's you know, because I thought, okay, he's, you know, he's going to be 35 when his contract is over. Brooke Lopez, a 35-year-old center, like the most. Easy to replace position in the NBA. At age 35, Got $24 million a year. Like, holy shit, right?
Well, and this one, too, where I said Middleton, like, every contract made sense. If Brooke's going to get a little here on the back end. Like, if 24 is more than he should be getting, yeah, the contract that got him here was one for three. One for three and then what, four for forty-four, or four for fifty-two?
So I mean, I go I'm I'm of the philosophy like you know, pay the guy for what he's gonna do. But when you've when you kind of have been like Like one for three. The only reason that he's even here now is because we offered him one for three. Like Sandra Omamu is getting one for two. Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah. Imagine if Sandra turns into Brooke. And that was when Brooke was five years younger. I mean, he's a 30-year-old player, not a 35-year-old player. I think the thing that's important about Brock.
Who you know even with the cap being what it is, If all things were equal, which they're not. Brooke Lopez is overpaid at $24 million. Yeah. But that is not relevant. Because if he left.
And I was listening to some of the smart national people over the weekend, like Zach Lowe and. the Windhorst group with um You know, national reporters who have a lot of sourcing. And we can. We can get upset. as Bucks fans when Giannis' name comes up.
But Giannis has two years left on his deal. And I think the topic that those guys brought up and not like as clickbait, but just as it's worth bringing up, is if Brooke Lopez left the Bucs, they had no means by which to replace him. None.
Yeah. If you're Giannis. You just watched your title hopes. Decline. Right?
Like, because it's not okay, well, Brooke left, so then they can sign. Jakob Pertle.
Well, Brooke left so they can sign whomever. No, they couldn't. Like if he left for Houston. You're like sure their tax bill is better, but unless you are Interested in the amount of dollars that ownership pays out of pocket, which, why would you care? This is huge.
I mean, this is. potentially Giannis timeline alteringly huge. You know what I mean? Like... If Brooke leaves A lot of questions would have start to have been asked.
at least by the public. and hopefully not actually by Giannis. But yeah, I I think Brooke Taking the Bucs offer over the Rockets offer, which was obviously a very, very real thing because the Rockets didn't move on Dylan Brooks. The Rockets didn't move on Jock Landale, the center from Phoenix, formerly from Phoenix. They didn't move on those deals until after Brooks said, no, thank you.
It was very, very, very real. interest from the rockets. It's not just that the Bucs retained Chris and they retained Brooks. The Bucks retained Like Giannis's good spirits. You know what I mean?
Like, I know that maybe sounds dramatic, but like, This was really, really, really important. I think.
Well, I don't think just for Giannis. I think.
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So this week I have um This was my off day. Saturday's my off day.
Now you're making me do a pod. But I appreciate your time. Sunday I'm doing my Sunday show. Yep. Monday and Tuesday, I'm doing writer.
You are doing on Tuesday. Yeah. Okay. So That's, I mean, it's a two-hour show. I all live.
Yeah, you'll be right. You're getting picking up holiday hours. Yeah. Wednesday, they needed a guy to fill in for the DA show. Mm.
5A to 9A. Yeah. Haven't done that in a while. Yeah. Doing it on Wednesday.
You're just gonna stay up on Tuesday night? I don't know. I didn't used to, but I thought about it. I thought about it because Secret Invasion drops at like 2 a.m. The Marvel show?
I don't even know what that one is yet, but okay. What's Nick Fury's show? Oh, okay. Yeah. So anyway.
Then on Thursday. From 11A. To 10p.
Well I will be at Summerfest.
Okay. from Milwaukee Pro Soccer. And my plantar fasciitis is killing me. And so I bought these socks somebody recommended. I told the writer than you audience that I'm one of the millions that suffer.
And people like Found my faith. You know, I can be like Hey, what do you guys think about this trade? No one cares. I can be some random guy they've never heard of. Say, my feet hurt.
I got people finding my Facebook message, so I bought some socks. All right, what's that? Friday, 11 to 4 at Summerfest.
Okay. Saturday, I'm in Madison for the forward Madison.
Okay. Sunday, my shift. And then I'm all off.
So I'm like a busy guy for not having a job. Yeah. That 11-hour shift at Summerfest, man. That's the one that the Wednesday morning, and if I can get through those two. Yeah.
Those are the ones that are hanging over my head. Shout out to Austin who I saw. Austin, who comes on our shows? Austin Reeves. Not him.
But Austin came to the booth and I looked at him and go, You son of a bitch. He's tall. Don't drink a water, the sauce thing. When I took pictures with him, and I was fat on the side, now I'm fat in the front in pictures.
So I did uh go to the local gym by my house to sign up. But nobody was there because of staffing. Oh no. Like an appointment.
Okay. Well that's a good stri that's a good first step. Another Summerfest thing I want to talk to you about, because you guys were fucking with me. You guys brought up young gravy, right, to me? Yeah.
I don't know who this guy is.
Okay. So he performed on. Thursday. Yeah. Friday?
I don't know, but yeah, I knew it was three, yeah. Friday I was there. At Summerfest, and he performed. And people were there for him. And I was asking like the people I was working with, and one of these kids is 19.
And I'm like, what is, I go, what is a young gravy? And he's like, He's like, you don't even want to know. The way he described it was. It was supposed to be ironic, bad, and now it's so bad that people think it's good. Mm.
I listened to it for 20 minutes Saturday. I don't get it. You could just overhear it from your booth? No, I I d I did I I did like a deep dive. Oh, okay.
So, who is this guy that every person's son and daughter saw on Friday?
So, you're going to love this, you're going to love this story.
So I promise you this story is relevant.
So, um Yes, I'm gonna admit something to you. Uh I saw limp biscuit. In the year 2022. No, not in 1999, though I also saw them in 1999. I decided to go with a buddy a year or so ago to see Limp Biscuit.
And The opener. for limb biscuit was young gravy. And You might know that you probably don't know this. Do you know who is a big Limb Biscuit fan? Yeah.
There's a lot of choices here, but CBS 58's own Kevin Holden. Big was just on my pod. I know that.
So I'm texting with Kevin. I'm like, he's like, I wanted to go. Why didn't you tell me sooner? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said, oh, and by the way, and he said, oh, it's limp biscuit and the young gravy.
I said, I know that this is like the opener, but what does this mean? Is this a band? Is this a group? And he's like, oh, it's so great.
Now, this is Kevin, right? Who's what? And is like. I don't know what maybe he's not sure. I don't know how old he is.
Let's say he's mid to late 40s. And he's like, oh, Young Gravy's so great. Like, and I'm like, Okay.
So I'm seeing the show, and I start sending pictures to Kevin of Young Gravy. He's like, Oh my God, when's the next Young Gravy show? I'll meet you there. And I'm like, Oh, it's in Kansas City. He's like, I will meet you there.
I will take off. We'll go check out Young Gravy and Limp Biscuit. He was a, you know, a dual. Project for that. I watched it live.
I didn't get it. I don't get it. I didn't get it. It was I mean, I don't know. I didn't get it.
I thought it's a but yeah, he was a Madison student. And um, you know, his little Rep. Thing that he did in his dorm just took off.
Now he's. Um do you know I think he's most called young gravy? I don't. Because he rhymed once wavy with gravy and gravy stuck for a name.
Okay. Do you know that he's probably most well known for being the guy that dates older moms? He dated Addison Ray's mom. I don't know who that is, but I was trying to figure that out also.
Okay, yeah, I don't know who it is, but I know he likes he dates moms. That's his gimmick. Or his real, I don't know if it's a gimmick, but it's what he does. Yeah, so the first thing someone said was. He's like, he may, he's big into milk.
So I go, we did this already. We did the whole MILF thing. What, like Stacy's mom, type of thing? Yeah, American Pie, Stacy's Mom. Oh, yeah.
I'm like, I thought we were transitioning to DILFs, and even guilds had their run.
Okay. Grandparents.
Okay. I asked my youngest brother who Young Gravy is. I said, why is young gravy so popular? He said, I'm too old to know anymore. Literally, I mean, the person who told me, like, oh, this is a thing, is Kevin Holman.
All right, well, that's my week. Yeah, okay.
So that was a. If it, I would not have told you that story if it wasn't for the fact that, of all people, Our buddy Kevin was um All about it. I think a lot of people had thoughts on the offseason coming in for the Bucs. Yeah. What they wanted and dream scenarios.
Mm-hmm. And then once it became real that Middleton and Lopez were not under contract. Yep. Then it was like Oh shit. We need those guys.
Yeah. And then Middleton comes back, and then Brooke comes back. It just seemed to be like. This is whether we're stuck in this corner or not, like The Bucks Best Path to a Title. Is Brooke, Chris, Drew, and Giannis?
Now, from there, there might be, like, there might be another. Plateau, you could find if you could do a dame thing, or if you could, there might be something that exists realistically that you could do to enhance those odds. But in most, like, Scenarios or multiverses, it's those four. And then the big, like, they're not running it back. They have a new coach who is going to bring a new style.
who has already led to the drafting of new players. That they wouldn't have drafted, who brought back, and then Jay Crowder coming back. Like, I don't think he comes back if butts here. Agree. Oh, definitely not.
Yeah. So all of the like this is it is It's the core four. They need this, but they're they're you know they're Trying to think of a good analogy. I don't know. That's a good one.
Yeah. I mean it's the same It's the same like I fuck. I'm trying to think like it's the same people in a different house, but that's dumb. Let me tell you this. I don't have an analogy for you, but...
The Bucks are, there's literally two years left. I got one. It's my house, it's the same house. If we redo the basement, Hmm. Let's finish this basement.
That completely changes the use of the house. Yeah. It's the same house. But we took a space that's being used one way. Use it another.
Very good. It took you a minute, but you got there.
Well, I had an AC guy come in here. My guy Elliott, he knew the show. Oh, did he did you know that before he came or did he like... Hey, by the way. Not for a while, for like 30 minutes, no.
And then he had to come in the basement. And then we showed him my wife's office for the airflow. And then I have this setup down here with the main screen. I go, there's my office. I just do some radio stuff.
And he's like, yeah, I know, 1250. Mm-hmm. Oh. Mm. But he's nice.
I go on the podcast, I'd shit all over him and say he was an awful person. There you go. He was not, actually. I hope he charges you more than it should. Um no don't do that Elliot.
No. Let's talk about this. There's a there's literally two years left. On this Bucks. Rot.
Two years. Two years from now. Giannis has a $51 million player option. He is declining. That player option, right?
And that doesn't mean he's leaving, but Giannis will very, very clearly in two years from now decline his $51 million player option. Chris Middleton. Has a player option.
So the third year of this three-year deal that Middleton just signed is a player option. I don't know. Will Chris Middleton be worth more or less than $36.5 million in two years? I don't know. Bobby Portis has a $13.4 million player option two years from now.
And Connetton has a $9.4 million player option two years from now. Aside from Marjan Beauchamp, BoChamp is the only player technically Under contract two years from now. Like I said, the only other four. Giannis, Chris, Bobby and Pat have player options. Brooke just signed a two-year deal.
Chris is a two plus one. Giannis has a two plus one. In two years, Brooke will be 37. Middle to be 34. I think we need to really appreciate that Even if Yaris Who, by the way, you probably know this part, but in September, he can sign an extension.
Two months from now, Giannis, even though he still has two years plus a player option left. Giannis can sign an extension this offseason in September. Will he? Is there an advantage for him to do that? You know, I don't know.
There's an advantage for him to do that. You think there is or is not? I wouldn't. If you were him, you would not. The pig.
What's the point? One of the things I wondered when the Bucks hired Adrian Griffin, who was Giannis' choice, is if it kind of came with a wink and a nod that. I'll I'll do my extension in September. I don't know that Giannis has any desire to leave, though. I Yeah, I mean Giannis is doing so many things.
Like, he's got these stores in these airports, and he's doing all the stuff with his brothers. Yeah. I think He's gonna You don't just pick up and move during, I don't know. I I don't I don't think that he ever leaves. And and I Obviously, needless to say, I hope you're right.
Um But the team that we know now the team that we have known for these past several years the team that won the championship If we are so lucky to still have Giannis on the roster. Two offseasons from now, two years from now. None of the guys currently on the team will be on the team.
Well, but That could also be the case next year. It could via trades and everything, but like Drew has two years left and then might retire. Brooke has two years left, Middleton two plus one, Bobby two plus one, Pat two plus one. The whole thing Is different in two years. This is a two-year, two years left, a two-year window.
with this team that we know. I think it's yeah, I don't I would say it's a one-year window. Because if they don't do something significant next year, they'll shake it, really shake it, shake it up. I believe they would. But they have credible assets then.
And I'm still optimistic. And I know this was the thing that made Matt in the Falls decide to leave you a voicemail about my trade ideas, which are never actually my trade ideas. I'm 100% in. On the idea that Drew Holiday for Darius Garland. is a win-win.
Like it just makes sense for both teams. The calves, if you want to get into like, well, why would the calves do that deal? They signed uh Max Struss. to a pretty good contract in this NBA offseason. They still don't really have a wing.
So they basically have a small guard in Garland, a small guard in Donovan Mitchell, and a small guard in Max Struss as their. Basically they're three one they're one through three who are all small, all who can't defend. If I can swap out Garland. For Drew Holiday, a bigger guard. Who can set up guys better than Garland can?
Because Garland is a better scorer. Then holiday. It just makes sense to me for both teams.
So I hope you're right. By the way, like. I don't want Bobby Porter to be traded before he visits FC Madison for your own sake. But Like with Bobby's contract, with Pat's contract, with Grayson's contract. They did the most important thing the Bucs could do this offseason.
They were able to convince Chris to not even take meetings and just resign. And they somehow convinced Brooke. Because the dollars were the same, or maybe Houston might have even been like a couple million dollars more. The Bucs did the most important thing. They got Middleton and Brooke, Lopez to stay.
Huge. I hope they're not done. I hope they said yes. Check the box. Important, huge check on the box.
Middleton's back, Brooke Lopez is back. I still hope that there's something now that they've done those moves, which had to happen first. Right. You don't trade Drew before you know that everyone's back. You don't trade Bobby and Pat until you know everyone's back.
I hope something else is coming. I think there needs to be more of a shake-up. You could still trade Drew. I think the fact that you were able to bring back the rest of the core. Brooke and Chris.
And and uh Jay Crowder. Mm-hmm. I think it actually gives you a better chance to say, you know what, there's enough stability. That it's not going to feel too abrupt. Like the basis of what was here is still here.
I mean, if Middleton would have signed somewhere in Lopez. And this was a Bobby Drew Miannis team. They'd suck.
Well, they wouldn't they wouldn't suck, but they would clearly not be title Contenders in any stretch. And then, by the way, like, I wouldn't have begrudged Giannis if he was, you know, pulling a Damian Lillard and said, Yeah, I don't know. But the Bucs did the most important thing. They got Giannis the coach that he wanted.
Okay, maybe we can, you know, we debated at the time about if that's the thing you should do: let your superstar pick your coach. They did, whatever. Um They brought back Chris, they bought the brought back Brooke.
Now, are they done? Or is there something else to kind of shake this thing up? You know, you lost Ingalls, whatever. He pretty much wasn't a part of the important rotation. You lost Javon Carter.
You know, you know, it's not great. But The rest of the group, including Jay Crowder, resigning his back. Um But unless they do. to the point of from a few minutes ago, unless they do a garland for Drew Holiday type trade. Um This is a two-year, and to your point, maybe a one-year.
deal. That things, like even if the Bucks win the title.
Next, you know, you know. 10 months from now, 11 months from now. Two years from now, this team is like Giannis. Marjan, and thirteen guys who are not currently part of the organization. That's nuts.
Like well, and Hugo Basson. And Hugo Basson. And hopefully, they're new rookies and Drew Timmy and whatever. But yeah, so this this is um This is very interesting to have a one to two year stretch, and then it's all like Jokic is not going to be the only guy left in Denver in two years. Like, this is, this is, I don't think like Tatum is going to be the only guy left in Boston two years from now.
Like, this is a unique situation. where everyone but your superstar could theoretically be gone.
So Enjoy it while it's here and they. I think the expectations now on Adrian Griffin, a first-year coach, could not be bigger. He does not have time to have like a Joe Mazzoola level like figure it out year. Yeah. That you you can't.
And that's and that was why, you know, a nick nurse.
Someone with head coaching experience. Instead of Adrian Griffin s It's what makes the hire of the head coach so fascinating. He does not, to the point, we just talked about this, they have one to two years to figure this out and win another title or get back to another finals. There's no time for the Missoula year. Like, it's just, you can't have it.
You're not allowed it.
Sorry, Adrian. That's why they hired Terry Stott. That's why they brought back Joe Prunty to have that veteran coach and, that, you know, to help him through the hurdles of a first-year coach. But Man, um A g a great Start to frequency for the box. Clearly, I thought Brooke was gone.
I did. Yeah, the longer it went, the more hairy it got. For sure. And as the Rockets proved that they were real planets. I really thought my dream was like, I thought that was real.
I've never had a dream. Feels so real. I thought he signed with Charlotte. The good news for your dream, your dream does not understand the over 38 rule of the NBA. Brooke could not have gotten a four-year contract.
So we'll teach your subconscious about the over 38 rule. But um He could have had a three-year deal. But yeah, they paid a ton of money for Brook Lopez, man. They paid a 35-year-old center, 24 million a year. And yet you have to do nothing but say thank goodness because they would have been.
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Do it. To speak on. I I did get a Text message from someone in the Warriors organization. to suck it Draymond signed with the Warriors. You did say publicly you thought he was gone.
I said I think there's a stronger chance than It's thought, but then When I saw him on the match. I don't know. It was Stephan Claver's. Mahomes and Kelsey? And Draymond was there like...
For Turner doing like a thing and he was all Then it was locked in. Any speculation that I thought it was locked in.
So now the Warriors are going to be here. Losing Dante to the Knicks in the Villanova reunion. But they're going to try to give it a go, and they're going to try to give it a go with Chris Paul. And I think they're going to try to talk themselves into it working and And then we'll see if it does or not. I guess not too much else to say on the Warriors unless you have something.
They lost Dante DiVincenzo. I don't. who reunites with Team Villanova, the New York Times. Oh, that's awesome. Hell yeah.
So nothing much else. If Jordan Poole wasn't traded. And you know, Bart, you should have allowed your Golden State Warriors Source to know that the asterisk next to your Draymond prediction. Probably would have changed and did change once they traded Jordan Poole. Because you said that with me and Grant.
before Pool was traded. I don't think Draymond is still a warrior if Poole's not traded. Like Yeah, probably not.
So. They Last year, pre-punch, pre-Draymond punching Jordan Poole, the Warriors gave an extension to Jordan Poole and didn't give one to Draymond. They a year later, they changed their mind and said, No, never mind.
Well, trade pool. And by the way, like. The Chris Paul thing I I've heard that described more as a Jordan Poole salary dump. That a hey, we're doing it with the CBA and second apron. But also, like, the They got Chris Paul back because Chris Paul was a matching salary.
Not because Joel's on for a few years and Paul's on for what, one? One. Yeah, so it's not like, oh my god, the Warriors really wanted Chris Paul. But They didn't want Jordan. He could end up being traded.
This could be like D'Angelo Russell when he was there. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Um But uh yeah, no not not many thanks on on the Warriors. Um But yeah, shout out to Dante.
He got four years, 50 million with the Knicks. Um Yeah. Yeah, a lot of people are saying, like, oh my God, overpay. Isn't that what a guy like that is going for? I mean, he basically got.
That's mid-level exception money. 12 years, 12 million. That's a tradable piece. And again, this is hard. It's hard to conceptualize.
I know you just said right. Dante was like. Dante, I feel like, is one of these guys that is just never going to reach. that he's never going to be able to unlock the truest potential of what he could be. But that doesn't mean he can't get close.
And you get a year with Golden State. He did. And if he's going to unlock it, like the difference in the Knicks once they brought over Josh Hart To team up with Jalen Brunson, two former Villanova guys. It changed everything. Like, if Dante is going to unlock the best version of himself, it's going to be with Brunson and Josh Hart.
Speaking of the Knicks, you can keep going. Dude, they straight up just dumped Obi Toppin. And I'm still a proud carrier of Obi Toppin stock.
So That was a bit odd. What did they get? Two seconds? Two seconds, which is like whatever. Like, the Bucks gave four seconds for Jay Crowder.
So Crowder's worth twice as much as Obi Toppin, like, I don't know. Um I think the thing to watch with the Knicks. If the Blazers do what they say they're gonna do, which is You know, there was a statement. I don't know if you saw it, Joe Cronin, Blazers GM, put out a statement on Saturday that said. We're going to, you know.
We're going to work with Dame, but we're not just going to limit our trade. I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but it's like we're not just going to limit our trade search to Miami just because that's what Damian Lillard wants. The Knicks, who chose not to throw all their stuff for Donovan Mitchell, Could throw all their stuff for Damian Lillard. Like, so that could really shift things. I do want to say this before, as you keep, as you keep looking through the list.
The odds in the Eastern Conference could have shifted drastically today. Right, if Brooke and/or Chris don't come back, and the Bucs have no salary cap means by which to replace them, the Bucs odds should have dropped to be a title favorite, right? For sure. Yeah, but they brought him back.
So the Bucks, the Celtics. The heat. I think would probably be the top three odds in the East right now. If the heat Do get Damian Lillard. Who said that his preferred destination is Miami?
If they can do that for some sort of Two first round picks, two pick swaps. Tyler Hero Expiring Kyle Lowry. maybe like Heywood High Smith and Yeah. Nikola Jovich, not Jokic, Jovich, their 2020. Like, if they can pull that off.
That's an odd shift. Say it again? Jovich played in the finals. He did. He had a million.
If they can pull that off, the odds in the East obviously become much more.
Okay. Complicated. Um Because Yeah, they lost Max Struce. Yes, they lost Gabe Vincent. And we should talk about the Lakers, by the way.
Gabe Vincent, the Lakers. But yeah, the Heat, man, they can really. Become awfully noisy if they can pull this off. In the next couple of days.
So I know we started with the Warriors and then we Went into the Knicks and then we went into the heat. Uh, this is what a conversation sounds like. That's what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like. Interrupt us to play this voicemail off the Carls Place voicemail line.
402-915-B-A-R-T. Carlovet.com for your golf simulator. Needs and accessories. This is from Josh in West Banks. Hey Bart, this is Josh and West Bend, first time long time.
Just wanted a call reacting about the Chris Middleton signing. Really excited about the Bucks signing them back on for three years. Seems like a pretty good deal, less than what maybe we were expecting.
So less than the four years, three years I like. See where this team goes this next year. Pick up for my boy Chris Middleton. I'm excited for another season. Thanks, Bart.
Keep up the good work. Bye. And to go to Josh's point, and you can call the voicemail line 402-915-2278. Even, I don't know. I'm trying to think.
So it was three for 103? Three for 102, I think, for Chris. Yeah. What if it was four for 102? Mm-hmm.
Well, that would have been better. What it have? Definitely. Yeah. Would people not have scoffed at that fourth year?
If you would have told them, Okay. 4 for 102 instead of 3 for 102. I think people just didn't want a fourth year. Sure. You'd rather have the lower annual average salary.
So you know. Yeah. All right. Less than I think Bucks fans could have possibly hoped for. Four for 102 is.
was yeah, never gonna, yeah.
So what I liked about the Lakers was they had a team that wasn't like working. And then at the deadline, somehow they made it work. And they got pretty far, not far enough.
Well now in free agency. They have re-signed Austin Reeves to a four-year $56 million deal. Which so that so you might know this, that's the most they could legally give him. They could not, they give him more. Other teams could have, so like the Spurs, for example, could have given him four for 100.
But the Lakers could have matched it.
So either way, he was restricted, but without him then. If I'm the Spurs, right, or the Rockets, like if they would have said, hey, we would rather have Reeves than Fred Van Vliet, your cap space gets tied up for like 72 hours.
So if the foregone conclusion was that, hey, the Lakers are going to match this, which is where all the indications are, the Lakers are matching anything you offer. Then, why would you want to tie up your cap space? I believe in Reeves. I think that he is good. 100%.
He is a very good player. Very, very good player. who if he was an unrestricted free agent. would have gotten Very paid. But he was restricted, and he could only sign.
So, not so. And just let me just emphasize what I'm saying. He got every single last penny he could have gotten. in residing with the Lakers because of the way the rules are with Undrafted players who only played two NBA seasons like he did.
So But yeah, keep going. They brought back D'Angelo Russell. I couldn't believe after all the stuff they did, they also brought back Russell, who I don't particularly. I think they shaded at some point. Sure, but that's still, I mean.
That's good to have on your books. I mean, he's a good player. Um You're better with him than without him. And even Jackson Hayes, I like Jackson Hayes. I still have Jackson Hayes stock.
I do too. Resign Rui, sign Gabe Vincent, sign Korean Prince, sign Cam Reddish. Yeah. They're loaded. That's a good deep team.
Yeah. One that I think I think they've got Denver in mind. They and they should. Yeah. I think they're building a team that can compete a little better.
with Denver. Uh totally. That Because I watch these other teams, Paul. Like, I watched Minnesota sign Nas Reed and Utah make a trade. Uh, who did they get from someone for whatever?
Oh, John Collins. Yeah, and it's like all these teams are like. All right. I mean. But they're so far away.
Sometimes I wonder these teams that are like seven, eight, nine. What's the point in even trying to be six? Like, isn't it better just to suck? The wizard should have taken that advice three years ago.
Okay. So, for the Lakers, yes, very impressive. And I think that. I don't know. In the West, I think absolutely Denver.
The Lakers have to be top have to be number two. I'm a little skittish.
So, what about Phoenix? I would take the Lakers over Phoenix. I would too, 'cause the Phoenix have three guys that do the same thing. with a guy in Ayton who they would love to trade, but cannot get anything for. They it's gonna be I mean Yeah.
As as crazy as this sounds, When you have Durant and Booker and Beale and. Aiton, they're gonna only be as good as what their role players allow them to be. Like The guys who are five through nine on that roster can't be bad. If they're bad, then the Suns, I just don't think the league is the way it is anymore. Like how it used to be.
Where it's like, oh, you can have like, if you had three amazing scores, you win the title. That's it this is this is not how it is right now. I think if they went up against Yes, I would take the Lakers and the Nuggets. But let's say this about the Nuggets. I'm a I have been.
a Bruce Brown guy, for a while. They lost him to Indiana. I mean, speaking of guys who got paid, like Bruce Brown's getting $21 million. Indiana, something. Who?
Indiana. Are they up to something? Yeah, are they okay? I don't know. They're gonna be okay.
Didn't they get your boy Tapping? They did get my boy topping. They signed someone else. But they also traded. Their first round pick from two years ago, Chris Duarte for nothing.
They salary-dumped Duarte. Not that I'm a huge, I do not have Duarte stock, but like he was. I thought there was another move in there that wasn't. Um Well, they gave Halliburton a max. Yeah, maybe that's what I was thinking of.
That was something for sure. And by the way, yeah, I. I I already kind of cheer for Halliburton 'cause he's from Appleton. Or Asuka's normal. Oshkosh, sorry.
Fox Cities. But he's posting million-dollar man gifts on Twitter after getting $200 million. Love it. Yeah, I like that like these guys like Normally they're like You're making we're talking about like One year, 12 million, four years, 80 million. That's 80 million dollars.
Like I I don't know. I would say I also appreciate like. There's a fine line here. When a guy gets $200 million, you don't want them to gloat. Right.
Like, that's just not good form. No. But if but if you're gonna post gifts of million dollar man Ted DiBiase After like that's gonna be your public comment. After just getting to it. It's a fine line, and you can't define it.
You know it when you see it. You know it. And this was perfectly. You know, he did it. He handled it extremely well.
Like, he could have, you know, posted nothing, but what he posted, I thought was great.
So I don't know what the Pacers are up to, but let's finish this on the Lakers. The Nuggets lost Bruce Brown.
So they got worse. Like they can hope that Christian Brown is going to take those minutes and is, you know, not going to be a step DeAndre Jordan back. That's Not a good thing. And they gave $5 million to Reggie Jackson per year. That was.
Odd.
So Yes, this doesn't change the Nuggets as being the Western Conference favorite. But the Lakers roster, which by the way, like, let's just say this real quick: the Lakers' roster. Six months ago? was horrific. Like the Russell Westbrook Bakers, that roster sucked.
Sucked. It was bad and the team was bad. and what they've done in six months. It's incredible. But we should probably say this: we were talking about the Bucks and their one or two year window.
Bronnie James is in the draft a year from now. LeBron, as you and I very much strongly agree, LeBron is playing with his kid next year. Not the 2024-25 season, a year from October from now.
So, this is probably unless the Lakers draft Bronnie. This is LeBron's last year with the Lakers.
So. They did everything imaginable they could have possibly done to put themselves in a spot to win another title before. Before LeBron goes to the Hawks. I don't know if you saw that. Like, there was a mock draft that had Bronny going to the Hawks, and LeBron posted it and was like, What's up, ATL?
Like, he's not like joking, he's telling you what he's gonna do. He's been asked about it many times, and he says. I'm telling you, I'm doing this. He's, you know, people are going to, oh, that's cute. Oh, that's funny.
No, no, he's playing wherever his son gets drafted, and that's the end of it. And that's why his son's going to go seven or eight because you're also drafting a year of LeBron James. 100%. And all the money that comes with the tickets and the merch and everything else.
So that's my thoughts on the Lakers. They absolutely crushed it. Who else you got?
So, I don't know that there was anything other. We talked about Dante, we talked about Sandro. Your boy Russ resigned with the Clippers. Dude, I mean, I will say this. I very much, very much.
Dance player Russ is now working for $4 million a year. I was going to say, I don't like Russell Westbrook. Really, never have. Even like triple double machine MVP Russell Westbrook was never really my thing in terms of NBA viewing. I think it takes A lot of Like, listen, he's still getting $4 million to play NBA basketball.
Like, I'm not trying to, you know, give this guy too many kudos, but a lot of guys won't do that. Like, when you're used to making $50 million a year and then you make $4 million, like, there are some guys just like, fuck it, I'm going to retire. Right. Because that's like a shot to their ego or whatever.
So. Yeah, I mean Good job to the clips. I think the question now, we should probably say this, Bart. You're talking about like odds shifting. We do have to talk about the Philadelphia 76ers.
Who Foolishly are we gonna talk about the guys that are coming over from Europe? Oh, there's a couple. I mean, the Kings signed one. I don't have Euro League pass like I have league pass. I have played some Euro DFS, but I usually just take former NBA guys and I take like last.
Okay. They take last, like Dwight Howard and all this. Yeah, so I the The Sixers are really interesting. If they're going to trade James Harden, which by the way, they should have never gotten into business with James Harden. Like, I.
Would have stayed. I would stay very there's two guys I just would never touch if I was running a team: Harden and Kyrie. They're gonna name, we could talk about Kyrie. Three for three for what? 130?
120.
So 120. Yeah. Yeah, I don't of all.
So when Kyrie got traded. I was so stunned it was the Mavs. Because why would Mark Cuban do that? And that's the, and he, I just, I don't know why you would watch it over and over. And it's the, it's the Tobias Lindsay thing, where it's like, it never works for these people, but it might work for us.
It's the same exact thing. Why would you like, why would you offer even three years is like. Too much. These guys get bored. They get agitated.
They get they wanna they don't like something and then that It's like you don't like something, you deal with it, or whatever. It's like, but if they don't like something, it's like. get out of here and i don't know what where Harden's gonna end up. But I don't know why you would want them. Yeah.
And I think I think the thing, like, it's also a player option for Kyrie.
So you're like, hey, two years from now, it's up to you. We trust you. Like, what? But the Mavs did this to themselves when they let Jalen Brunson walk for nothing. Because then, just like we're talking about with Brooke, the Mavs couldn't replace.
Brunson. that they had no money by which to do so.
So not only did you lose a really good player, You Can't replace him in free agency.
So then they overspend to trade for Kyrie. And then he's a free agent. And if they let Kyrie walk, They couldn't have replaced Kyrie. You're right.
So like you kind of had to re-sign him. But now you're in the Kyrie business and You should never want your franchise to be in the Kyrie business or the James Harden business.
So I think we should say this. I think we should like Eastern Conference odds. We talked about how big it would have impacted if Brooke and Chris left. We can talk how big the odds will shift if Lillard becomes a Miami Heat. Yeah.
The Celtics I don't know what this poor zinc Sorry, what did you say? All Miami heat. A Miami Heat player, I think I said, or I meant to.
Someone called him a heater. A heater or the heatles. Um, I don't know what the Celtics are gonna look like with Porzangis. Especially without Marcus Smart, like that almost just feels wrong that Marcus Smart's not a Celtic. Like, that's weird.
Like, there are some guys that are just, this is, this is the team is this guy's team. And as much as Marcus Smart is clearly not one of their best players, he's not Jalen Brown, he's not Jason Tatum, he's the Celtics.
So I don't know if they're better with Porzingas. But If the Sixers are gonna be stuck in this James Harden limbo. Is M. Biede? Like, how patient is Joelle Embiid going to be?
Like they're not going to get a good return for James Harden. Oh, if I was the Sixers, I'd move on from Embiid.
Well, I He is your franchise. Like, I'm not saying that that's a no conference championship. Appearance. Yeah. I'm not gonna, I'm definitely not gonna stick up for Joel MB, but.
If Harden gets a poor return on a trade. And by the way, there is a scenario that I saw that makes sense. Where did the three-team deal? in which Hardin goes to the Clippers. Lillard goes to the Sixers.
And then a whole bunch of picks and pick swaps and stuff goes to the blazers.
So if Harden. becomes a clipper. And joins Paul George and Kawhi. And by the way, the math, the salary math works. This is not like crazy.
And the Sixers get back, by the way, so the Sixers in this scenario are giving up Maxie. And Harden.
So Maxie would go to Portland.
So you'd be replacing Harden and Maxi with Lillard. Presumably, Enbi'd would really like that. That would be good. Yeah, they they'd be good. But if they don't get back much.
I guess there's a lot of reports that the Knicks are sitting there twiddling their thumbs saying. We have all the first round picks you could possibly want, Philly. And we would happily give you all of them for Joelle and Bede.
So things could get really interesting in Philly. really fast.
So I think that's worth mentioning because they're the What, fourth or fifth? Third to fifth best odds in the East, probably. If I was really, I would trade hard in NMB if I was Philly. You just want a hard reset. It's not working.
But but the pro well, they just hired Nick Nurse. They just gave a Shit ton of money. But they've committed to a path.
So they're not going to trade Embiid now. But Embiid, just like Lillard, just like Beale, just like Mini Harden all the time, Kyrie all the time, Embiid could say, We did our best. I want to leave. And then the Knicks could give.
So many draft assets for Philly.
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Sounds good. You asked me. Who could I not root for on my team? Ooh, yes. There was somebody that was speculating that if Brooke didn't sign here.
We would have to go out and get Grant Williams. I saw this. That's the answer to my question. Yeah. Yeah.
I think it was Ty Windish who floated the idea. Um Then they would have had like their, they would have had the mid-level exception, then, which is more than the taxpayer mid-level and they could have used it on Grant Williams. I mean, I've said this about guys like Deli and whatever, but Grant Williams.
Well, the other thing that's fascinating is smart. I think I would like talk myself. Grant Williams. Yeah. Would Grant Williams be worse for you than Dylan Brooks?
Yes. Are you sure it's not just the work that you think sucks?
Well, he doesn't suck. But he's not good. He's I mean, he's making $80 million now to play for the Rockets, so he can't be too bad. Um I don't want Dylan Brooks either. I wonder, though, if you don't like Grant, I wonder if you dislike Grant Williams more than Dylan Brooks.
Because you've had to watch a lot of Grant Williams. Like, if you were a Western Conference guy who. You know, I know you watch the difference guy. I know, I guess. Grant Williams and Dalen Brooks would both be extremely difficult.
to root for But I think if you weren't a Warriors guy, you would probably have Draymond in your most difficult to cheer for because he's very difficult to cheer for. But you've made peace with it because no, he's not difficult to cheer for. I love 'em. Because he's on your team. They're not my team.
They're on your Other team. It's the I wouldn't say the Warriors are my other team. They're not my second team. What would you call it? It's they're my family business.
You know, okay, fair, fair enough. Um Uh, it's too many. You guys, where do they end up? James Harden, where does he play next year? Clippers.
Yeah, I agree. Lillard. Miami. Borling. No.
Yep. They're gonna call his bluff? And that's called KD's bluff. But here's the here's the problem if you're Portland. Lillard, this whole thing is meant to happen forever.
This is this is. John Cena and Randy Orton fight forever. Yeah. If I was a Blazers fan. I'm not saying I wouldn't Have emotions about Damian Lillard leaving and requesting a trade, but the best thing for the Blazers is to trade Damian Lillard.
Like They lucked into lottery luck. To get the number three pick, they lucked into the fact that the Hornets took Brandon Miller instead of Scoot Henderson. They did the smart thing in the 2022 draft by taking the totally unproven Shaden Sharp. Who is very much on a strong path to be a very good player, even though he's only like 19 or 20 years old right now. If the Blazers just embrace the we're going to suck for two years path and they pick up another couple top five picks in the next two drafts, That's better than this bullshit play for the tenth seed stuff that they've been doing.
I would If I was a Blazers fan, I would be like, okay, finally. Because, Bart, I think you said this with me and Grant a couple weeks ago. The Lillard situation Um is Similar to Rodgers and the Packers. They both knew they should have broken up. Neither of them wanted to be the bad guy in the divorce.
So they just kept holding on until someone finally said, like, fine, fuck it. Like, we can break up now. And the Blazers weren't going to do it. They were not going to break up with Damian Lillard, even though they sh They should have wanted to. Not because he's not a great player, but because the Damian Lillard, Scoot Henderson, Shaden Sharp, Youssef Nurkic, Jeremy Grant Blazers are the 10th best team in the West at best.
So, the reason I don't think he's on the Blazers isn't because I don't think they would call his bluff, it's that they're better off not. Playing for the 10th seed, which is what they would be doing with him on the roster.
So I do think they'll trade him. And I think the heat. Will give up everything they have to give up. to to make this work. They're not going to give up Jimmy Butler.
They're not going to give up Bam Autobio. They will give everything else they can possibly give without batting an eye. Because they should. Jimmy Butler at his age Damian Lillard at his age. They just weren't they they were just in the finals, but clearly didn't have the power the manpower to to get over the hump.
It it makes way too much sense. Jimmy Butler is like heavily advocating for the Heat to do whatever it takes. He'll be on the heat. According to one sports book, the Rockets' odds to win the NBA championship. before free agency was 150 to one.
After signing Van Vliet and Brooks, it's now 200 to 1. It got worse. It got worse. Dylan Brooks sucks. I promise you.
Well, let's I Let's be clear. There were plenty of reports, including your guy Jake Fisher. Where you had on on the national show. Who said The Bucs met, had a real meeting with Dylan Brooks, like a real, actual, legit. meeting with the Bucks.
So Your actual favorite team, your non-family business team. Wanted to talk to Dylan, talk to Dylan Brooks, reportedly. They're like, he can't be this bad. We have to see it for ourselves. When they did.
Listen, I'm not trying to. You're just dumping on him so hard that it seems like I'm sticking up for Dylan Brooks. Screw Dylan Brooks. But Come see Summerfest on Thursday when there's no headliner. I'll be there from 11 to 10.
Your guys, man, AJR.
Well, I feel bad for their dad's dad. Oh, it's terrible. It's a terrible situation, but. But I don't know if we're all brothers. Yeah, they're all brothers.
Mm-hmm. Their first names of their initials is A. J. Mm. Um Do you really think, though, that's, I mean, SummerFest is going to have to, they have to figure something out.
You can't not have a headliner. In the amphitheater, right? Like, there, I know it's like extremely late notice. But who can you get by Thursday? I don't know, but remember That were available.
I can get our guitarist over here from Colorado. We'll have a couple of quick band practices. Um And you probably, I'm sure there's been nights before where headlines people cancel.
So, by the way, because I used to kind of s sort of be in that industry. Uh I'd be curious what you think What do you think SummerFest we're gonna pay AJR for the last second edition to being the headliner on Thursday. What would you guess? I have a I have an educated guess. To headline a night at Summerfest last second.
Keeping in mind that they were already there, they already were going to be there for Saturday to open for Imagine Dragons. I'd say because they're already going to be there, I'd say 50. No way. Hundred? 100, 120.
And by the way, that's before 100, and then I went down to 50. And that's before merch, which would probably be another. $25,000. Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, they're not doing it for peanuts. Just saying.
So they have, I mean, it's not like. I care way too much about I'm too fascinated by the idea that SummerFest now has like five days to book something. They're not going to keep it empty. They can't. You can't keep it empty.
Can you? I don't know. It's got to be someone big enough to play the stage. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Well who else is playing that night? You could bring people over, right? Like you could take.
Well, would you be screwing over like your side stages, though? Because those are all sponsored by. various companies, you can't yeah. You can't just move them over and be like, oops, sorry, because then their stage is screwed. I don't like the new Summerfest.
I like the terror as a weak. Instead of the three weekends? Yeah, you're yeah, this is three different festivals. Yeah. Bullshit.
I hope they bring something good. I hope it's young gravy back. I hope it's I hope it's young gravy opening for slim biscuit. I mean at this point How about we just bring back like This, there'll be like at least one person listening to this who will understand this reference. I think they need to book the Family Values Tour from 1998.
Corn Limp biscuit. I think Ice Cube. And I forget if there's anyone else on that, but those are like the big ones. Let's do family values 25 years later. Corn, limp biscuit, you know what?
And young gravy, just because he was. one years old in 1998. Paul Limig, thank you for your Saturday. That's true. I would not have done it for Anything other than the NBA offseason.
This was actually your idea. It was. Yeah. I don't know when I'm doing another show.
Well, this one will live on the top of the feed then. Which it deserves to be because NBA offseason. I thought of doing a show for like a free agency wrap-up kind of thing that would post on Wednesday. But this might just be it for the week. If there's something like if the Bucs trade Drew Holiday.
Well they're good. We gotta do something. Yeah. If they do some sort of like Bobby Grayson Pat. Salary combination to get.
Player X. And I don't know about my Summer League shows now that Javari's not playing. It's still a cool team, but Jabari had certainly extra sizzle on it. And also, I'll still go live like next week. I.
I'm going to summarize Grant brought this up in our text, but I gotta go to summer league next year. Gotta happen. Yeah, I'd like to go at some point too. Let's do it. All right, Paul.
See you, buddy. All right, see ya. Asante came to TurboTax after graduating from culinary school and landing a job in the hottest kitchen in town. My hands are full all day, every day. I love it.
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