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Good morning, everyone. Wow, that's a zero out of ten. That's a bad one.
So the voice is recovering. I think um I got to a decent Spot on Monday night.
Now we're recording this on Tuesday morning.
So this is. being recorded on Tuesday morning. Uh hopefully It got better. Hopefully I was able to get out to the Steve. Which I am worried about.
But um Monday, this is coming off Monday's show. Monday, we went nine wide. I just want people to remember.
Now, there were only 28 people listening at the time we went nine-wide. But that is, what do they tell you about callers, Grant? They tell you that only like 2% of people call. Yeah.
Okay, so I had 33% of people giving interaction. That that that should be that that like that should be That should be, yeah, it's Grant Bills and it's Paul Immig, ladies and gentlemen. Better call Paul. Better call Paul. Yes.
Oh, I love producing when it was Paul's Day to be on. Why is that? Oh, because every morning you'd text like you needed to completely change your time. Did I really do that? Paul was scheduled for what 106?
All the time on Bill's show. Uh And you'd be like, hey, I got to do 1130. And Joe would always go. Immix gotta change again. And he was so he was always so worried that You know, when these radio stations set a rundown.
And then one of their interviewers. interview has changed and they're like How are we going to tell our people that are expecting Paul at one that it's 120 now? No one Hey, fuck. I can't control it. I sound like the fish on Little Mermaid.
Which one? The one from under the sea when he goes. Guess who's going beyond that plate? Oh yeah, that's a very uh the deep classic. A little mermaid or the new woke?
Well, I know. No, we are watching a lot of Little Mermaid lately in the house. Which I had never seen up until really. Oh, yeah. I like it.
It's kind of like a poorly written movie. All right, give me your give me your analysis. Why? What? Where's the plot holes?
Uh the pacing is just very like. Odd.
Okay. Oh, and I watch Mario movie? I love it.
So good.
Well, I so then I looked, I was like, this is pretty decent.
So I looked at reviews. And uh there was like How can you have a movie that has no plot? I really strongly disagreed with the reviews. Strongly disagreed. I thought the movie was good, but my kid was scared the whole time.
That powers Mario was like They put Mario through the gauntlet. He keeps getting his ass kicked over and over and over. And then he finally won. And then We had to like stop one day and then pick it up the next day, and then he was very excited. And now he's super Namario.
Oh, good! Did he finish the movie or no? Oh, yeah. Okay. He just had to kind of settle into the fact that Mario gets his.
Gets himself knocked around a little bit.
Well, he's happy to know that. He won. Oh. Yes. I don't think he quite understands in movies yet the good guys always win.
Uh um Yeah. Not in Little Big League. Right. Ken Griffey Jr. Griffey was the good guy in that movie, but yeah.
All the examples that you pulled, you pulled Lil Big League. I feel like just That's the first one that comes to mind where the good guys, quote-unquote, good guys don't win. All right. You know what was really good? The Turtles movie, man.
Oh, yeah. Fantastic. And that has like 97% rotten tomatoes, which. for that type of movie to be that high is pretty cool. See, I'll never I I'm so high on Our turtles, one, two.
From the 80s. Mm-hmm. No, you'll love it. It's, I mean, because Seth Rogan is pretty much our age. He has the same nostalgia for.
The turtles that we do.
So I thought he really, really did a great job bringing justice to our childhoods with the turtles. Do you remember how bad Turtles 3 was when they went to Japan. Yeah.
You know, we were like seven, so I don't think I watched it after that. It was like Major League Three. Yeah, I I have an odd affinity for Major League Three. Recognizing it's garbage, like for real. But I enjoyed like the minor league, and it was clearly not major league one and two.
But for what it was, I mean, it's like back to the future three, you know, like it's the forgotten. I feel this way about Blues Brothers 2000. I know it's not good, but I get a kick out of it and I like the music, anyways. I never saw it. Can I ask you guys a question?
I was thinking of how to frame this as a. But this is like a perfect segue into it. I'm thinking of how to ask this and mm-hmm, but I can't. There's no mm-hmm for it.
So I'm going to just bring it as our like our Our pre-discussion. On Monday night. All of the people who are about in the age group of me and Bart absolutely ate up the fact that Steph Curry sang with Paramore. Which Is a great band and Steph Curry like rocked it out. He knew all the words and he sang it really well.
My question for you is: if you could pick one athlete who you enjoy, maybe it's your favorite athlete or whatever, and you could put them into a pop culture thing, Maybe it's a performance on stage. Maybe it's a movie. Maybe it's a TV show. I just kind of curious what would come to mind for you that you would enjoy.
So, like Bart and I, we saw Giannis at AEW. Like, that was Giannis. I would. I would have him guest star on Elf. Alf, A-L-F, alien life form, or yeah, Alf.
Health. A-L-F.
Okay. What is this stupid thing? And he'd like. Beat it up. Tickle it.
Giannis on elf was not the answer I was expecting. Sure. Um, but I thought maybe there'd be like What was Steph singing? What song? Misery business.
Yeah.
What? No, I didn't meant to break. But I got what I wanted now.
Well, in other concert cameo news, I saw one of the Danettes was on stage with Darius Rucker the other night. That was a big thing in the Dan Patrick space. I don't know if you guys ever. Follow that. No, no.
I don't know what my pop culture crossover would be. I'm going to have to think about that one. If you come back to it later, that'd be great.
Well, let's ask a question and then... I I'm not quite woefully yet, but we can ask a question here.
Okay, so we do mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. Or mm-mm. Um Let's start with Rashawn Gary. coming back.
Which made me want to ask you two fellas if you had to put your money on one player to be the Packers' MVP on defense. This year It would be Rashawn Gary. Or Packers defensive MVP. All your money's got to go on one guy. It would be Rashawn Gary.
Mm-hmm. Or I am going to say, and I am going to buy into the Jair Alexander hype. That was my alternative possible answer for this, but yes. Same. We may have seen the clip where he said, oh, yeah, you know, who I like to watch is 23 on the Packers.
Okay. I think that Jair Was falling into the trap where he Like I don't want to call him Willie a Damas-like. Uh-oh. Uh oh. Where like his best plays were coming when they were already getting their ass kicked.
Ah, sure. At least in my perception. Um And he would like celebrate and like, but then if you look at Like Joe Berry almost destroyed this man's career. For the two Viking games, and I know that. The second game they were playing.
Some dog shit guy, Manion. But they weren't like they just like. You play 15 yards off Jefferson. Of course, they have 200 yards. Yeah.
And then they have him follow Jefferson. He does much better.
So I think Jair. Is what that defense exactly what they need right now. They need someone that. is telling them that he's good, that can follow up with it, that can then get the other players to believe they're maybe a little better than they are.
So I would go with Jair. Grand Bills Rashawn Gary's back. He'll be the Packers' defensive MVP this year. Mm-hmm. Or.
I'll say, and I didn't really know exactly who I was going to say. I'll probably say Jair. I just. I don't want to be the anti-Rashawn Gary guy. Just sometimes I feel like I.
Like I have to be. You've been that in the past, I remember. Don't put that on me, Paul. I mean, I don't. He's fine.
He's good. But I don't know, and last year he got hurt. Which is unfair to him. No, I'm very high on Rashawn Gary. I want to make that.
I like the guy. Um it's just what is this year five? And we're kind of waiting for that one dominant season end-to-end where he is the guy that we've expected him to be and the guy that everyone says he's going to be, and he hasn't done it yet.
So. Until I see it, I'm gonna say I'll say Jair. I guess. Who are even like some other You know, Kenny Clark and like Kenny Clark. If you're saying, like, legit.
team defensive MVP. I mean, I mean, is Quay Walker going to have some explosive second year? I mean, he's an athletic marvel. I don't know if he's going to be defensive team MVP if the team is good or if the defense is good. Was it Paul Brattle that was telling me he thought Devontae Wyatt was playing well?
But I mean, you're talking a guy who didn't play last year to being, you know. It doesn't make it not possible, but Van Ness seems to be like. Getting people all Groined up. Groined up. Yeah.
Maybe some rasul. I don't know if he's your team if he's team defensive MVP. Who are the starting safeties in week one? What's the. What's the read?
Uh Ford. And Ford and Savage. Yeah.
I have seen a lot of good things about Devontae Wyatt, hearing a lot of hype, as Cohn says. I'm hearing good things. I'm just we don't this show does not have boots on the ground at camp. I uh I j I just see a lot of tweets that he's taken that next step. Perhaps in year two.
I don't know. It's great that Rashawn Gary's off the pup list already, and it looks like he's actually going to. He's coming along and progressing really nicely because we assume that players are going to. come back and it'll be like nothing ever happened and that's 100%. Not always the case, you know, players like David Battiari.
So C's coming off pup, that's a great sign. But we've yet to see him have a truly dominant season as the number one edge rusher on a good defense. And I feel like a lot of people have just assigned that to him. And I have to be the the hater for pointing out that that has not happened yet.
So I should have looked this up. I think the answer is no. Rashad and Gary has not signed a contract extension. Right? Mm-mm.
So he is unrestricted. Free agent. At the end of the season, right? I feel like here's what's going to happen. Who do the Packers play like week six or seven?
They're going to have a good defensive performance. Sean Gary's going to have a good game. And then that week, it's going to be announced that. They came to a contract extension. Don't you think that's the most likely way for this to go?
Well, they're not letting it go. Yeah.
He's not reaching free agency unless the Eric Bledsoe Drew Holiday mid-season type extension that boosts everyone's gives the whole team a lift. I think that's probably where I'd put my money.
Well, yeah, I mean, I'm just looking at this, at his spot track data. I mean, yeah, in seven months. He's an undestricted free agent so. And he'll be, he's 26 years old this year. Coming off the ACL, I mean, obviously, this is.
What a nine-month recovery window for his torn ACL, which is bonkers like that's like adrian that's like adrian peters in circa 20 15. Remember when Adrian Peterson had like the quickest ACL recovery in pro sports that, or Brian Bulaga, even. Who is just a house coming back from ACL Terror? He would show up week one and it looked like nothing ever happened. Where did Brian Belaga go to college?
The higher one. Ah. Oh, Brambalaga, Awa. Mm. Yeah.
He had this long tenured Packers career, and I think most people would most remember him for being. Brown Balaga, Iowa. an original Big Ten school. A Big Ten school before all the riffraff from the West Coast was coming in. He was a member of the proper Big Ten back in the day.
Do you think the Hold on, let me pause myself again. On the Dan Shaney YouTube stream, Dan. You can watch me. cough many times. I will do that now while muting myself.
Uh Mm-hmm. Fuck, I forgot to mute myself. Do you think that Nikhil Harry is being rumored to wear 28. Should the Vikings have retired that number for Adrian Peterson. Should they have retired it?
Yeah.
God, I love number one. retirement talk.
Okay, so can I pause you for a second, Bart, and can we answer that question?
Well, I swear to you, you didn't know this. I didn't know what you were going to say. My next topic for you. This is based off a Bart Winkler tweet. The brewers should retire, which should retire Cece Sabathia's number.
I shit you not. This was the next topic. What a beautiful.
So we should answer Adrian Peterson, but then we're talking like Jersey retirement talk, number retirement talk.
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Paul Emmix here. And we want to talk Jersey retirement. We did cover this a little bit. On Monday. Oh, you did?
Okay. But I'm I wouldn't I'm happy to. Answered again. Uh as far as Adrian Peterson. I don't know if like I'd have to ask a Viking fan.
But you don't sit on it for five years and then give it to Nikhil Airy. Yeah, like Treat it like You know, the other thing that's cool with Jersey is like 88, the Cowboys never retire. But they give it to their guy. Like Pearson, Irving. Although some people call Michael Irvin.
I've heard it both ways. Des. C D. It's like I'm the cowboy receiver that wears 88. They've established that like some college programs do.
That's cool. if you're gonna do it that way. It would be super lame if Cee De Lamb was like, Oh, Michael, can I wear your number? That's why I give like Fucking Rogers, I give him so much credit for not wearing 12 there because it's retired for Joe Namath. And Joe is going to let him wear it.
You know, the fact that Rogers is a retirement respecter of number guy. It's tough for me. Do you respect retirement? Do you respect wood? I respect.
respect retirement. It is cool that uh Rogers is wearing eight. I don't know what to think about Adrian Peterson. I was not expected to. I did not expect to talk about this this morning.
I don't know how I feel. I love when jerseys get retired. I love that the rays. Retired 12 for Wade Boggs. Because he was there for a year.
I love The early Rays had like every Fred McGriff was there somehow. Wade Boggs was there. We I didn't party where we we both happened to go to a Rays game that year, right? I did. I think I remember you saying you also did.
I went in I was there at BJ Upton's first game. Wow, that's a name. I was, yeah. What was their debut year? I was there, like, I wasn't there their debut year.
I was there. Oh, you weren't.
Okay. Okay, I was there the debut year. Grant was two years old. Yeah, too. Was that late nineties?
You don't know my age. What year was this? Yeah, he debuted, I think, in 98. 98. That sounds right.
Yeah, that's my birth year. Home Christmas. Yeah.
I've always felt a strong connection to that franchise for that reason. Felt like we're one and the same. We came into the earth very similar times. Yeah.
So, Bart, I don't know what you said on the Monday Live, but let's go to Grant. I'm curious what his take is on Cece Sabafia. Did he it can a half can a player who was As impactful as any half season rental can ever possibly be. No, Grant's a great guy to talk to about this because this. This is what I got mad about and this is what I realized.
Is that the way I feel about Maybe the 08 or 11 brewers is how some people feel about the 82 brewers that I always make fun of. Yeah.
Grant, you would have been 10.
So that's still, I think that's still what it resonated. Like CC Sabbathia for you would have been like The 92 brewers for me. When I was eight, maybe Or maybe you didn't give a fuck. Because you lived in western Wisconsin and You guys are all Poser Brewer fans. This?
I remember my dad being the super amped. And I remember people being amped. Baseball is a sport I feel like it takes. Folks a little bit longer to get into. And when I say focus, I need kids.
Like, it's easy to watch a Packer game when you're little. With a big group of people and kind of understand what's going on, especially when I was five years old, I came home from school and watched baseball every day.
Well, okay, well, I went out and played outside.
Okay, I had no friends. I played with my siblings. didn't have any friends on our street. We lived on a small County Road. We'd come home, we'd play outside, we'd play make-believe.
I took a little bit longer to get into baseball.
So I remember 2008, but I don't think it carries the weight. For me, I mean, you had what 25 years of no playoffs that had just been stewing, so I think you had that background and that build-up. Where I didn't. Um But I remember CC. I remember all of that.
It's just probably not as powerful for me. I don't know how I feel about the number retirement. I'm a br I'm a Pretty close. I'm a brawn guy. Yes, we should retire bronze number.
Because of what he meant to the team. Because of what he brought to the team and to the franchise. And I guess the same is true for Cece, even though he's only here for like, Two months.
So maybe I'm a retired CC's number guy, too. I have to work through this.
Well, no, Cece's number. This should not realistically be retired. But I would I I would celebrate if it was. I think For what he did. And if you would have thrown that no hitter, I mean, maybe that changes things.
But he came here. He was a complete, he wasn't just like. It was it was the organizations showing a different type of strategy. It was you're if you're retiring the number for CC. You're retiring at four Everyone that was on the team, you're retiring it for Doug Melvin.
You're retiring it for breaking the drought. You're retiring it for. That summer when Brewers baseball. Like, got out of the doldrums of the fucking shitty nineties thing. And the you know, Alex Gonzalez 2,000 strike, 200 strike a year, you got out of it.
And you brought a city together for the first time. like that in twenty six years. You're I always thought that you're retiring it for more. Than Cece, you're retiring it to acknowledge. what that team meant and then they They buoyed out, you know, the next couple of years, they were competitive.
2011 was a great year. you know then they got shitty again and then you know now this era but To go back to Braun, like Braun was there for that. And then he was there for the next part. the golden age of Brewers baseball. Braun's number should absolutely be retired.
I think they're going to Jim Gantner him. Where Because he won't be in the Hall of Fame.
So, Jim, the only numbers they've retired are people in the Hall of Fame. But nobody's worn Jim Gantner's number. And when I talked about this on Monday, Brett and Tosa was like. Fuck Jim Gantner. which i didn't know was a thing He said he was the most mediocre brewer ever.
That got way too much hype. I might have to challenge back and say Rob dear. Rob Deere was not that good. He was, but he looked like Andrew Chaffin. Rob Deere has his own district next to the Pfizer Forum.
That is true. Fuck. I forgot about that. He's already got his thing. You can't have, you can't have.
Lambo Field, and then also be on the. I'm sorry. No, no, that's a different. Rob Deer can't be on the Mount Rushmore because there's a deer district. Exactly.
This is this is yeah, this is very obvious. Yeah.
So, how many brewers would you have to name? Like you're writing the brewer's book you know, the the in the entire history of the team. Or you could say, like, how many Mount Rushmore heads would you need before you put CCs? Like, in terms of impact as a brewer, memories of big brewer moments, the overall story. I don't know.
I think you would go down a ways because it's such a really. It's a different thing. Maybe I was just the perfect age, you know, so 23. No, because I would say, like, I'd go Young Molliter. Sure.
And then I'd say Braun. And then I'd think of like Fielder. Fielder. And then I would think of, you know, then I think of who are some of those other guys from. I th ah Vukovich.
fingers Um Gorman Thomas, I'd start naming those guys, and then I'd come back and I'd think, oh, Yelich has been good, and then I'd think. Oh, I thought that summer was Cece. That's what it would be. But still, I think, I mean, even though you're just doing like an exercise there, you still name Cece in the top 10. I think I fast forwarded to him.
I was just thinking, I've not done like a list, but to me, again, it's a lot of this is like point in your life. I remember. I was born in 84. They last made the playoffs in 82. My whole life, I had to hear about the 82 Brewers while watching some shitty fucking teams.
And then the one year they were good in 92, they didn't make the playoffs. Even though they won 92 games because only two teams made the playoffs, then they were dog shit in the 90s. Then baseball went on strike. Then I hated baseball. Then I came back to baseball because Miller Park opened.
And then they were even somehow even shittier. And then there was a whole period of the 2000s where Chris Magruder was like cloned seven straight years as outfielder du jour. And then Cece Sabathia came along and finally justified me pouring 26 years of misery into that god-awful franchise. Totally. That's how I feel about it too.
And I just, I would just say, like. I do think the impact he pitched don't like he pitched every third day. Right. in a contract year. Like he should not for his.
Now, he ended up getting paid, and everything worked out for him financially. But he should not have been. They're like, let's take this man. But he didn't have to do that, right?
So, like, I know a lot of people's beef with Josh Hayter was like that he would refuse to do the multi-inning thing, and he was very focused on his arbitration contract. It was very like, and that's fine. I don't begrudge Hayter or anyone else who's like, Well, hey, this is my one chance to be a professional athlete and make a lot of money. Cece Sabathy in a contract year on a new team said, Screw it. I'm going to pitch every third day and risk injury.
And you know, and I think it helps that he's just a unique Body type. It was his delivery was fantastic. Like, it's just fun to watch.
So, maybe I'm, you know, just was at the perfect age at that time to think of it in its own way. We're like, if there's an afternoon game and Sabbathy was pitching, I'm making sure that I have my food and my drink, and I'm sitting down. And at 109, I'm ready for that first pitch to happen because Sabbathy is at Miller Park about to pitch with the Brewers. Anyway, no, he shouldn't have his number retired, but I do love that there's going to be this Cece Sabbathia thing coming up. Bart, what does it all entail?
I know you saw the press release. What's all in that coming up with Sabbathia? He is gonna come and presumably throw the first pitch and I deleted That email.
Well, you tweeted it though, right? I guess you could pull that up. Oh, here's the email. There's going to be a pregame acknowledgement. The first 20,000 fans will get some poster.
Um Basically, it's that picture from the Journal Sentinel, right? Like the iconic photo. See, this is how you spend a Friday night at the ballpark. You honor CeCe Sabathia. You don't bring.
Chesty Leruen and fucking Terrible. Ceces Zabathia should have a statue at the very least. That iconic yell, that should be immortalized in bronze. I love that. Even if his number is not up in the...
They're not really rafters up on the concrete beam. In the outfield, even if his number doesn't go there. Remember when I was arguing with Tim Shea about how Ryan Braun's number should be retired? And Tim said, well, The Brewer system is all the players have had to make at least one World Series. I think about that every goddamn day.
In fact, Tim brought that up as he said. Yes. It's not their system, but it's what Tim said. He's like, all those guys made at least one World Series. No, Tim, they made the one.
They made the only one. They made that one.
Well, Hank Aaron didn't make it with us. Yeah, he made it somewhere else. Ask Tim Shea about this. Tim, I would actually be genuinely.
Okay, so there you go. Hank Aaron's numbers retired. Hank Aaron played two years. With the Brewers. He won a World Series In Milwaukee.
In nineteen fifty seven. Right? Uh You're testing the history now. Yeah, sure.
Sounds about right.
So Did we retire? Hank Aaron's number. Because of his career with the Braves? Probably partially. Yeah.
Yeah.
Well then that's messed. The br yeah, well we don't have that much to celebrate as a franchise. You know, we gotta get it where we can get it. It's a little bit, maybe a little bit like, well, not a little, a very small amount like the heat retiring Michael Jordan's number. It's like we respect this guy so much.
On a league-wide basis, Hank Aaron deserves his number being retired more than Cece. But I don't know. I I have a hard time. Just like that. I have a har like the same way I'm like, uh ha eighty two brewers, you know.
It's still the brewers. These people that would call in all the time and presumably they're all dead now. But they were always like the Braves, we got to honor the Braves more. Man, the Braves left. If the brewers leave.
And a new franchise comes back. And like Ryan Braun's the manager. for two years and then he wears eight and then The Milwaukee Tigers. Retired at number eight. It's like, why?
That's because he was a brewer? No, this is a new thing. I think the new base is wanting to. Keep that connection because they were a great team, but Even, and there should be some sort of memorial to Milwaukee Braves. I don't know that it should be at the Brewers Stadium.
Hmm. I'm this is a very controversially bad take from me. But I've always thought like I don't know. I've gone to the New Braves Stadium. Yeah.
They have a behind home plate. They have this history. of the franchise from Boston to Milwaukee. to Atlanta. Yeah.
They have, like, they do it better than we do it. We tack it against some wall and an exit, nobody leaves out of. Oh, here's a bunch of baseballs. They have like Here's the, you know, they show everything. It's a lot it's a lot better.
I just had never felt the connection to the Braves. And I feel like it's I feel like the brewers are forced to like. be the ones to do it just 'cause they're the new baseball club here when They'd rather not. Yeah.
No, no, no, no, I feel like You guys are either compelled by what I'm saying or don't give a fuck. I'm compelled. Yeah, it's nothing I've ever thought about before. Yeah, you have the context of having seen whatever like the The Atlanta Braves. memorial thing um I've not seen that.
Uh I don't have a strong opinion. I'm compelled by what you're saying. Not I was very compelled. I thought it was very well spoken, Bart. Yeah.
I understand that. Oh, Bart doesn't respect the Braves. That's not what I'm saying. I don't like that it's on Milwaukee. I mean, now they got this wall of fame where it's like, God, if you played for the Milwaukee Braves for even half the time that Cece was, we're going to bring back all your dead relatives and let them throw at the first pitch and put the.
See, I always take it one little too far. There you go.
Well, here's another baseball one that I was not planning to ask, but I. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna ask it. I think I'm surprised by what I think my answer is. Um Since the Jose Ramirez v.
Tim Anderson. battle. Jose Ramirez's agent has posted a picture of Jose Ramirez in boxing gloves. I know the Guardians' minor league team. Is doing a promotion where anyone named Tim gets to have free tickets to sit in the grass.
That's the that's the that's the team. Like, that's not like some random, you know, local club, it's an affiliate of the Guardians. This has brought a lot of attention to baseball because, especially because it's like two. Premier players, two star players. The Jose Ramirez knocking Tim Anderson on his ass and the memes that have come from it and all of the stuff that has come from it.
This was good. For the popularity of Major League Baseball. This is a This is an oddly positive. Moment For This Sport for the no, let me not say for the sport, but for the league. This was good for Major League Baseball.
Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. Grant? Yeah, I was gonna say, I think part of what has made baseball fun this year. is you have these upstart teams like the Diamondbacks and the Orioles.
um and i i like obviously the the rays and there's other there's other sharp small market teams but some of these teams the mariners Writer trying to fight it and do it for the first time with these young, exciting teams. That's been really fun. Another part of why baseball has been fun this year is you have. Big market, really talented, really expensive teams that are flopping, like the Mets and the Padres. And that's funny.
And the White Sox aren't. Really, the Mets, and they are really the Padres, but they're kind of a super talented team in a larger market, even though they play second fiddle in their own market to the Cubs, and they're flopping. And Tim Anderson getting knocked out of his ass within 48 hours of that Jesse Rogers story coming out about how the White Sox are. A mess. There's no rules in the dugout, and you have relief pitchers sleeping through games.
Like, I just think the more reasons we have to talk about more teams, that's a good thing. The more teams that are in my field of vision that I'm paying attention to and that I know something about, and I have a reason to think about them, that's good. And this summer baseball has been really good at that with Otani and with like the Orioles, a lot of these upstart teams. I just have a lot of reasons to pay attention to a lot of teams. And while it's bad for the White Sox, I think it's good for baseball and it's good for baseball fans.
Clark? Jose Ramirez, Tim Anderson situation and what has come from it. Is actually a good thing for Major League Baseball? Mm-hmm. Or mm-hmm.
I understand. Baseball. Taking advantage of this situation. I still don't like that. In sports, you can just fight someone and Like They committed a crime.
It was a crime. That was a crime. This is such a soyboy take. It is not a soy boy take, it is. No, it's not.
I don't understand how I like even in hockey. It was like, all right, let's fight. What the f what is happening? These these guys are fighting. He's squared up.
He got knocked out. He did. And if that would have happened. A hundred yards that way in the stands. The guy's going to jail.
You sound like Jerry Seinfeld right now, both in delivery and in content. Yeah.
It's just not fair. You can't like The one guy fought in the stands. He lost his job at Fox 6. He had to go. pretend to care about Madison for two years before I got hired back here.
Come on.
Well It did happen. Yeah.
You think you wanted to work in Madison? No! Yeah.
He didn't want to leave. He had no choice. I guess I get what you're saying. I just, that's such a weird. But that's also why I love you, Bart.
Is you're like, hey, this one thing that no one else is thinking, I'm going to make this take my entire life. I don't understand how, like. You know, and then the announcer is like, down goes Anderson, and it goes viral. I do get, like, okay, I do get. The funniness of it, the memes of it.
the announcer, you know, going all Crazy about it and Uh I I get it. I just I don't get how fights are allowed in They were suspended. They're not allowed. They were both ejected and they were both suspended. He's missing less games than a pitcher would miss if he had.
No, no, no, no, Tim Anderson got six. Yeah, but pitchers always get 10 games, aka two starts. I guess. I like that Anderson lost the fight and got double the amount of games. Dude, and then on Monday, the story came out: the Yasmani Grandal piece of this.
Did you read that? I don't know. That I think I hope I don't mix this up, but it was something like Someone wanted to go home early before the all-star break. And Tim Anderson said, Well, if he wants to leave, then fuck him. To which Yasmani Grandal walked over to Tim Anderson in his Little space in his cubby of his locker room and smacked him on the head in front of the entire team.
Grandahl did that to his teammate, Tim Anderson. And Tim Anderson just kind of had to sit there and take it. Rough, rough year overall for Tim Anderson. Rough week. But you know, like the reason I ask this question is.
You know, when I would go to Admirals games as a kid. I didn't know hockey. I didn't play hockey. I didn't like fighting. I'm anti-fighting.
I've never been in a fight. I'm never going to be in a fight. It's not my thing in any way, shape, or form. But damn it, if I didn't want to see the hockey guys fight each other, and if they didn't, I was like, oh, like that wasn't the best game today. Yeah, but the Admiral's one six Euro.
Yeah, but like... You know, no one took off their gloves and punched each other. It's a weird take. I'm not proud of the take. It is in fact the way that I felt as a kid.
And like. If you didn't send or didn't receive. One of the either the real version of Jose Ramirez knocking out Tim Anderson, or one of the memes or gifts of it in a text chat with buddies, then you're not.
Okay. And you don't have sports fans in your life. Like, that was, you talked about this with your friends. Like, you mentioned this, you showed this. This was a thing.
And. Jose Ramirez Then posing in boxing gloves and all of the I do think Like, you know, like if the commissioner was to be interviewed about it, like, what do you make of the increased interest during those three days? And, like, all of the search terms went way up, and a lot of people, more people were talking about baseball that week. What do you think about that? And he would say, well, you know, we would never condone it, blah, blah, blah.
And the back of his head, he's like, in the back of his head, he's like, Fucking do it again. You know, he can't say that. He wouldn't say that. It was a little haughty there. I was going to say the same thing.
He's never condone. Craig, Craig, Craig, would you have you ever been compelled to To take off your gloves and fight. Who does that venture into when you start to go fight? Who I know it ventures into uh It ventures into God, because I just thought of it too. It ventures into No, it's not South Park.
No, I know, but we've talked about that, but there's something else in there that I can't quite find. Oh, it's uh it's it's um. It ventures into The guy from Knives Out. Oh my, you're so right! The fight.
Oh, that's brilliant. That's what adventures into. Grant, you've seen these movies? I know the main guy, is that who you talk about? Yeah.
With his interesting accent. To get all this information to Caliendo, we hold the keys to the kingdom in terms of oppression. Thank you for Mr. Mackie. It's a little it's a little Yeah.
LeBlanc. If you're going to venture into the fight, that, yeah. Oh, wonderful. That's the guy who goes, it's just dumb. Right, that guy?
That guy, yeah. That was the, you know, the gif or the clip that people. You've seen the movies? Oh, they're great. They're great movies.
Guys. I just can't I mean Janelle Mornay is the artist. woman that's ever lived. I just really think so. I didn't hear what you said.
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Just buy some steaks, man. Yeah.
Put the cold bard in and buy some steaks. I don't know if anyone's going to show up at the tailgate that we're doing with Omaha Steaks. The f I think maybe that's more reserved for a nice family outing. To get that delicious tenderloin. But if you do order the package that's available, they do send you eight free burgers.
That'd be good to bring for the tailgate. I'm rolling in with apple tartlets. to the tailgate, all the Apple tartlets. Yeah, I wish you were gone. Are you going?
I really want to. Are you going to take off to go? Taking a vacation day, it's a top, you know, you.
Well, I know. Paul, you might get it. You just, every time you take a vacation day, you lose a little bit of. Respect. From the co-workers and from your boss.
Just a little. Oh, no, no, no, no. Bad take. Boo. You do.
No, you do. I don't want to be right. You're not right. You're right. No, you no, no, no.
No, no, no. You earn those days. You need those days. I always I always use the days No, do not feel guilty about that. I regret, I only took.
Two weeks of paternity leave when I was offered four. Is someone giving birth at the brewer game? Huh? My point is, that's different. No, but I regret yes.
No, I'm like I fucked that's a bad thing I did as a dad. But it was, I mean, it was right at the time we got a new boss. It was like shit.
So you're saying you should have taken more weeks? Yeah, I should take it all four. You could have had four and you didn't take them. Yeah, that was dumb. That was done.
I just take it. Guess what happened in the end of that? None of it mattered. The cup, the. The station gets shut down.
It was dumb. Always use always use your days. Focus on you. Yeah, companies are always like... Here are the benefits to get you wanting this job.
You get 20 days off, and we're happily giving to you. Never use any of them. You're fucking committed to us. Don't do it. Grant, maybe.
It is wildly different in radio. Using a vacation day. No, I think it's true anywhere. I think a lot of people feel guilt about it. It's a lot harder to take a vacation day when you're taking off from.
The Bart Winkler Show. Yeah, I get that because I think I remember Bart, you would if you missed two days people would literally think you were suspended. Yeah.
Every time. Like, Bart took a four-day weekend. It's like, yeah, you know why? It's because that thing he said on Wednesday, and they're not going to announce that. He's talking about the Braves' dead relatives throwing out the first pitch.
That's pretty funny, actually. And that's got to get him suspended for two. I mean, it was without fail. It would be like people would. Yeah.
All right. Um Here's a topic I Guarantee you were not expecting. How's that for a tease? Guarantee. Not expecting it.
Expecting what? I'm pretty grinded up. I've never heard anyone say that before. But you know what it means. Totally know what it means.
That's funny. Nearly everyone. I'm not saying that I have an erection. I'm saying that I'm like ticklish in the groin. Yeah.
Alright. I could have done without the explainer. Nearly everyone who's watching Messi We'll stop watching MLS once he's gone. In other words, Huge initial boost. No one will stay.
Not no one. Oh One oh, I am telling you that you to cough. But Okay. I saw the host has muted your mic and then unmuted my mic.
Sorry. So there's this huge boost. And so the reason I ask this question is. I saw the other day, Messi was removed with like 10 minutes to go, and everyone left. And everyone was like, the Twitter stuff was like surprised, like, oh, like, even the hometown fans are leaving.
They're like, yes, the hometowns are fans leaving because no one gives a fuck about the hometown team. They're there to see Messi. Once he's gone, they're gone. This isn't gonna, in my opinion, this isn't gonna like boost season tickets across the league or for each individual team. It's going to be a short-term boost.
When he's gone, they're gone, is my opinion.
So I'm curious if you agree. Once, you know, nearly everyone who's tuned into MLS as a result of wanting to watch Messi, the vast, vast, vast majority will. leave and not watch once he's gone. Mm-hmm or I suppose I'll answer this first. That makes sense.
I understand what you're saying. And I think there's gonna be a lot of people that watch Messi that All right, like I'll tell you about me. I Did everything I could to watch those first two games. without paying for Apple The MLS package. Sure.
And then I fucking bought it. Because I have to see this. Yep. Uh The game after that, there was a third game. They won again.
Messi was fucking amazing. Then they played Dallas on Sunday in Dallas, so his first road game. Place sells out. It's like one of the most captivating soccer games I've ever seen. Sure.
It was unbelievable. And if you're like, buy $40 to watch this game for the first time experience as a soccer fan, I would always do it. Sure. They are down 4-2. They're playing like dog shit.
Messi then, Messi has this free kick that gets headed by the other team as an own goal. But own goals are like, oh my God, what have I done? This guy looked like he was trying to score off an assist from Messi. It was so fucked up. And then Messi has the free kick, and then Messi takes.
And it was great. And now they play Friday night again. And I'm excited. I'm going to watch every time he's on. Yeah.
I bought it for Messi. I didn't really buy it for the rest of the MLS. Right. I don't know how much of the rest of the MLS. I'm going to watch if there's important games or playoff games, or I'm bored, or you know, I cheer for the Timbers, I guess.
I'll maybe watch them if whatever. But this is more of a Like this only happened now? Because David Beckham came 16 years ago. Sure. If that doesn't happen...
He doesn't open the door. He doesn't get an ownership stake. He doesn't then want to bring Messi over.
So. Messi coming here is hopefully going to bring like more people over. In some sort of way, or he has taken the profile of the league because a lot of these subscriptions, like, Apple Apple They lucked into Messi, but it played perfect for them. They don't just have the American rights to this. League.
They have the worldwide rights. Worldwide exclusivity.
Okay. So if you want to watch MLS. in any other country. You have to watch it through Apple. Here's a fun fact for you.
One of the big reasons Apple is so invested in MLS. Is because in Latin America. Apple phones. I was listening to a podcast on this. I think.
Andrew Marchon's podcast. Apple phones are the fourth highest selling phone. Wow. Yeah.
It's I don't even know the three others. I don't know three others either.
So they're trying to bolster. This isn't about Apple TV Plus. This is about getting more Apple products into Latin and South America.
Okay. And now those people are buying this package. To watch Messi.
So I think all this has worked all the way around. And Messi delivering these insane moments is great. But next year, I mean, I already put a note in my phone. For when the MLS season ends, cancel MLS.
So I don't know.
So that's my long answer.
Well, Grant, obviously, I want to get your take. I think you made a lot of good points, but you still ended up where I ended up. Which is like if you're looking at like Well, it depends. It depends, Paul, because like. Wrestling, I saw that match between Shawn Michaels and Undertaker.
100%. And I'm like, I want this whole sport. I want this in my life. If some people are like But that was me coming into a new thing. People that are buying this or watching Messi already like soccer.
It's not like. Oh, I'll just check out this messy guy. Oh, this is pretty cool. I never see soccer before. They're not doing that.
And I don't know, like, so MLS has to show itself off as a league. And maybe, like, the game on Sunday was bonkers. If I watched that game on Sunday between Dallas and Miami. And I'd never seen MLS play before. I'm like.
Holy shit. This league isn't like. The Premier League, but it's fucking bonkers and it was fun to watch. And maybe I'll watch another game. Maybe I'll check out.
But the problem is. They'll check out like a Revolution Red Bulls game, and it'll be the shittiest 0-0 game you ever did see. And I think that's what I was going to say. I was going to use either the wrestling example or the fact that, like, When the brewers got Cece Sabathia, the attendance the rest of the year, and then, you know, like.
Some portion of the people who were not going to Brewers' games. Who then started going to Brewers' games? Kept going to Brewers' games, right? Even after Cece Zabathi was gone or after the 2011 season, and then they had this down period.
Some people who came during the Niger Morgan hit era. Stayed. But most didn't. But, like in wrestling, some people are going to watch. Bret Hart, Undertaker, or Sean Michaels, whichever match it was, Sean Michaels, Undertaker.
And they're going to say, Oh, I need this. But then, Bart, if like the next 10 matches you watched. were terrible and like not even Yeah, right. Um then You know, some people will say, okay, well, I guess I don't actually like pro wrestling. I just like this one match.
And some people keep staying. I would venture to say, like, I'm going to try to describe this as a graph. If the interest in MLS is at the one level, You know, so it's one, one, one, one, interest is at a one. And then it spikes to 10. Between July of 2023 and I don't know, December of 2023.
I'm not saying it's going to go all the way back down to one. Post messy. But it's gonna go down to like 1.2. And then it's gonna do another straight line, straight line, straight line. Like A small portion, I think, five percent will stay and say, you know what, I just like soccer now, just like you said.
Well, never mind, I don't just like Shawn Michaels Undertaker, I like wrestling.
Some people are going to say that, I think, with MLS. I think the 95% plus, if Messi checks out of the game, they're leaving the stadium. If he's no longer in the league, they're unsubscribing.
So, as a business model, it still makes sense to your point about getting more Apple products, but that doesn't make it good for MLS. I mean, it's great for MLS, right? But, like, the vast majority of these people are not going to be like, I love MLS now. No, you're here to watch Messi and then you're leaving the second he's gone, is my opinion. Grant Bills, your thoughts?
Well, I mean, I don't have a ton to say about MLS. I find the fact that Apple is the carrier really interesting because Apple. Apple and Apple TV, their platform is different than Netflix and Hulu and Disney Plus, and that Apple does not rely on. Apple TV subscriptions to drive their business at all. It's so far down the list of things that actually need to make money for them.
Whereas Netflix and Disney Plus, like these streaming libraries, these streaming platforms are such a big part of What drives their business? It's for a lot of these brands, it's what drives their business completely. Apple can afford the churn. Right, Apple can afford to get these influx of subscribers and then lose the subscribers at some point, which is what is killing Disney Plus and Hulu and a lot of these other platforms. It's not getting the subscriptions that's the difficult part, it's keeping them, it's expensive to.
To churn and to have to keep getting people. And it doesn't matter for Apple. Like Apple TV gets them in the space of the MLS. It gets them phones in Central America, for example, which I didn't know. That's really interesting.
And it gets Tim Cook into the Hollywood space and it gets Apple into those rooms, which is a place that Apple wouldn't be without Apple TV Plus.
So it's interesting that Apple can say, well, we'll invest in this and it looks really good. And it doesn't necessarily need to make us a ton of money. Over a five-year window, if we get a ton of subscribers and it burns really hot for a while, that's fine. Whereas that approach might not work for other streaming providers, which I find very interesting. And I think your graph analogy is a good one.
If it's at 10 or if it's at one and it goes up to a 10 and it comes back down to a two, At the end of this, MLS is still in a better spot than it was beforehand. And I like the idea of Messi showed that you can come to America. and make it work. And hopefully that leads to the next guy and the next guy.
So, whereas if Messi leaves, MLS might not still be as big of a deal, it won't still be as big of a deal. but the door is wide open for the same thing to keep happening with other stars. And I think that's cool. Bart, you would know the answer to this far better than we would. Who Maybe it's in two years, maybe it's right now, maybe it's in five years.
Is there another name? That even carries 70% of the weight that Beckham did in 2007 that Messi doesn't Oh, yeah.
Okay. Yep. I saw. And did he take that $1.2 billion deal or was he?
So that's still out there? Yeah, and so people are like, well, MLS could get him. But the way that they got Messi, like Messi's getting paid from Apple. The contract, they broke every rule that they would have to get this guy over here. And I don't know how they would do it for...
Mm-hmm. Who does he play for? Mbappe? PSP. Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you. Jesus fucking clock. What is it? Which stands for Paris Saint-Germain. That's one of the few things I know about soccer.
Look at you. Yeah.
It stands for Paul. Paul Sure. Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that. I'm very, I like the sports topics that are like sports adjacent. Like I've been brilliant. I like like. The stuff.
Like, where do you put your bread? Do you put it in your fridge or on top of your That's not a refrigerator. I like like. What day of the week is best? I like.
You know. Uh, what's your favorite band? And when did you get your first blow job? Just things that are like not really sports. I like those.
I was I was thinking more like college football relimment. I think it's really interesting because it has ramifications for television networks and for the size of the playoff and all these different things that aren't necessarily related to the games. And that's where college football loses me sometimes, I don't love spending my entire Saturday watching a lot of games that.
sometimes suck, like Ohio State beating Maryland in seven beat up six.
So as someone who does right. No, I like the topics that are these we like Apple TV and the subscriber, like that's very interesting to me, even though I'm not a big soccer guy. Yeah, I'm not either, but I just found this whole. I mean this is I've been a fascinating time period to watch that happen. Here's my, this was not a planned question, and it's not even an question.
Don't you have to go? I do have to go in two minutes. The I don't know who's in the Big Ten. I don't watch college sports. I'm not a college sports guy.
I do not know who's in the Big Ten. Who's in the Big Ten?
So USC and someone you know who's in the Big Ten. It's the name of a kid's book. Who's in the Big Ten?
I can see the illustration on the cover. Who was the other team that joined with USC like a year or so ago? UCLA. And now are there new teams that joined? Come on.
I'm not kidding. I see college stuff and I see, I just zoom, I just completely zone around. Oregon and Washington. And now are there 14 teams with those two or sixteen? 18.
Other than the 10 or 11 that I knew growing up, plus those four, who are the other three? A Maryland? Yeah.
Rutgers. Rutgers. Nebras Nebraska. And wait, okay.
Now I have to ask you. You can do it real quick and then I'm going to go. They should change the brand. I think I saw your tweet on this. They should change the name of the big 10 or now that there's fucking 18 goddamn teams.
No. No, they should not change the name of the Big Ten. Why? It should stay the same because one day I want to have the opportunity as a dad to be like, I remember when the Big Ten was actually 10 teams. And then I want to be able to explain to my kid what happened.
And I want my kids to be like, that doesn't make sense. And I'll be like, oh, you just don't know shit about anything. You little, you know, you're basically a bump on a log, you little, little tyke. Like, I want the opportunity as a dad to have that conversation. They can't change it.
And how many teams will be in the big 10 by the time like 29 teams, and it's the big 10. It's stupid. It's probably going to be just big 10. SEC at some point. Probably.
All right. Well, if you're going to go, I'd... Grant, can I talk to you for that for five minutes? I was going to say, we can get Bart, we can keep going. All right, be well.
All right, Paul Emig. Is that the wrap on him? I love that we explained like the last two minutes was us just explaining to Paul all the teams. If he had more time, I would have done like. West Virginia and had him guest the conference.
I know, we didn't, yeah. He didn't have time. I would have loved to listen to him just guess aimlessly until he got it, but. I would have done it. I think so one of the things that I think everybody looks at right away.
With college realignment, just from a football standpoint, like this fucks so many people over. I won't talk about that right now. From a football standpoint. You're getting Oregon versus Rutgers. You're getting U C F verse Arizona State.
But You're getting Texas, Texas A ⁇ M back. In the SEC. You're getting Oklahoma, Missouri back. You're getting Um like it with these four pack twelve schools. It's weird.
Well, you're getting a lot of great Rose Bowl rematches. You're getting Uh Utah and BYU is a Power five rivalry. That's already been a rivalry.
So you are getting like there are cool things that happening I still think college loses its luster when it's not as regional. For now, Stanford and California be like, what do we do? They can't be in the ACC, man.
So I don't, I just, I don't think like, the biggest problem with realignment for me is it's never fucking ending. Uh-huh.
Well, and that's why your boy that you had on, Chip McAllister, Chip, what was his name? Chip Chip Patterson. Chip Patterson. He, on his podcast the other day that they did about realignment, he's like, we need to stop using the word stability. That was a pet peeve of his that they were talking about.
This might be the situation for two years or four years or maybe even six years. But the idea that Oregon is going to the Big Ten simply so they can have stability and it'll stay. It's never going to end. You're right. Yeah, and I think it's going to funnel.
I think we like, so we saw. Big Eight, Southwest. Pac-12 or 10, Big Ten, SEC. We funneled, lost the big East. We're funneling, losing the Pac-12.
We're going to keep funneling and eventually be. Two power conferences of 30 teams each. Probably the Confederacy and the Union. That'd be pretty funny. And it'll And it's fine.
You know, we're losing a little bit of the regionality, which is totally one of the defining factors. All of this is fine, it's not, I don't think it's life or death for a lot of people. We're not gonna lose the civil war. or the apple cup. We're not going to lose.
Like these teams have already come out and say, we're going to keep the rivalries. We're going to keep playing them. That's one of the advantages of college football. There are no rules.
Now, that means you can leave conferences at any point. You can move around, but also, well, we'll just go be in the Big Ten, but we'll still do the Civil War. Who says we can't? We can scale up. And there'll be these two power conferences, and there'll still be Notre Dame.
Yeah.
Like we can the lack of The lack of it making any fucking sense is like. A positive for conferences. It's the reason that this is happening, but it's also the reason that it's fine is because Oregon's like, well, we'll change conferences, but we'll still. do the civil war. I mean, why we'll figure out a way or why not?
You know, we'll still go to Iowa. Always plays Iowa State. Yeah.
Florida always plays Florida State. Yep. Totally. I think, and I brought this up on my Monday show. I think it's really funny that Oregon and Washington are moving conferences, they're going to the Big Ten.
And I turn on People like Colin Cowherd, and they're like, Well, Oregon and Washington really fit the brand of the Big Ten: state schools, academic, right? Like, we break this down like these schools have personalities, and these towns have personalities, and they're designed to fit in conferences with. Corresponding schools. I think it's so funny. It's such an outrageous sport.
I just wish I liked watching the games more. I wish I could. You got to get in the DraftKings. Maybe. I can't sit down when it's beautiful outside in the fall and spend an entire Saturday watching college football.
That's all I want to do. I don't think I'll ever be able to do it. I love it.
I love stuff like this. I love stories like this that don't require me to sit down for 11 hours. And watch college football for an entire time. But a big reason I love it is I get really nerdy. I've always wanted to make a 64-team bracket.
And show like how we got to the final four by using different matchups that happen throughout the season and do that at the end of the season. But I never end up doing it. But I like the the The playoffs Every game like has some sort of And we're going to lose that now. I here's here's the bummer. The playoff is expanding and it's because of money.
And I'm not an idiot, and I'm not going to be like, this is just one big cash grab. No shit. Of course it is. Like, good job for putting that together.
So, everyone who's ranting about that, well, of course, it's about money. I don't love that the playoff is expanding because I feel like we're going to lose some urgency in the regular season. And that urgency is some of. You know, part of that, that's the only reason I watch some college football games in the season is when Alabama and Tennessee meet up on a Saturday night in a game that everyone's had circled for weeks. I know when I'm watching that game that the loser is kind of boned.
The loser is out. And only one team can advance and still have a legitimate shot at the playoffs. And if that goes away, I don't know that I love college football enough to still watch some of those games. I need the stakes to feel massive, and I don't know if they're still going to when we expand the playoffs to eight teams or 12 teams or however many we eventually. You know what?
Stakes are massive. Omaha steaks. Omaha steaks. They're big. Thanks, Grant.
Thanks to Paul. Um Yeah, I guess this is the end of the show.
