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My name is Bart Winkler. It is the 22nd of August. I did tell my parents happy anniversary and I bought them a card.

Their anniversary was Monday, bought them a card on Monday. Will it ever get to them? Lord only knows.

I trust the USPS system, so it'll get to them if that's the case, but I just, I got to write it and then send it and go to the post office. Packers gearing up for a game against the Seattle Seahawks this week. Excited to see them in person.

Excited to know that Jordan Love's going to play at least for a little bit. Big news, Aaron Rodgers is going to play that night, so all eyes will be on Jets Giants. We've got college football this weekend. It's a very exciting time for sure. Our boys and brew TM grant bills have the twins.

Wow. I just looked up who they played. We're doing a tailgate.

Of course I know who they play. It's a Tuesday night and then Wednesday day game and it is going to be hot. Remember a while ago I tweeted out, Oh my God, look at the 10 day forecast.

It's going to be 116 degrees. All these meteorologists around here said, come on, you can not trust the Apple app. Come on.

And I go, I don't know. It's been actually really helpful. I've never had a problem with it before. It gets me what I need to know. Now, come on, you got to download.

You got to download our weather tracker. Okay. Oh geez. And then they're all tweeting, look how hot it's going to be. One 10.

That's what Apple told me. They say, Oh no, that's the feels like that's not the real temperature. I say, fam, I'm going to be in a parking lot. In a heat desert, as we call them, it's going to be hot and bless Matt and the falls who will be at that grill. You know, Matt and the falls could do the funniest thing ever and not show up and completely fuck me.

He's not that kind of guy. I got, uh, I got napkins. I bought some waters for the tailgate. I got, uh, I got another thing of ketchup. We got cheese. If you're wondering if you should bring like, should I bring a cooler? Should I bring whatever for the tailgate?

Brewers, twins Wednesday. Bring it. If we don't need it, we don't need it. Stays in your car. If we need it, we'll use it. So there'll be plenty of people that are poking around their nasty little pause. I think I am going to buy a pack of name tags.

You could choose to wear one. If you'd like just going to be a lot of introductions. Some people are coming with somebody.

Some are going solo. Uh, you all know me, so that'll be kind of weird, but you can meet each other. So excited for that. Uh, for the tailgate, that should be a fun time. I'm going to be hot, but we'll have beverages and it's not like we've never been in the heat before.

It'll be a fine. Uh, I want to play some voicemails. Carl's place voicemails, Carl of et.com backslash Bart, Carl of et.com backslash Bart. Check out the golf simulators that they have. Hey, if you want to go golfing on Wednesday, it's too hot golf in your house.

Golf simulator, Tony in Texas boots on the ground. He was at the series, the brewer series against the Rangers. Hey Bart, Tony from Texas here. Glad I could get three victories for the brewers. Went to all three of them in Arlington. And you know, we took care of business. It was nice.

So the best came alive. Unfortunately, not to be able to make it for the big, the big tailgate that we got going on this week, but I'll be there in spirit. And I've got to say, uh, you know, the guys that are coming up there, I wish I would meet Matt from the falls. You know, Matt and I were kind of adversaries there in the beginning, but I'm saying this in a non condescending way. I really am enjoying that phone calls. I understand his humor now.

And yeah, dude, dude's cracking me up. So math in the fall, keep bringing it. And lastly, Packer football, uh, the Packers are better than I thought. I originally thought seven and 10.

I'm going to flip that and say 10 and seven. They got a little something, something going there as always. The defense is a concern of mine, but they got some young emerging receivers tight ends. The running backs will be solid. The office of lines above average. If Jordan love is above average and the defense is average, slightly average.

I see them winning 10 games and contending for the North. So that's all I got as John from Franklin would say, I am out. Good voicemail. We'll hear one from John in a second. Another shout out for Matt.

Matt's becoming like the most important person to this pod. I'll roll that used to be held by Tim Shea. Hello. What's up? What's going on?

Tim Shea, ladies and gents. Yeah. I pulled a Chuck. I gave you the link and then I started recording and thought I'd play some voicemails before we get started.

Um, any thoughts on the Packers? You were, you were commenting in our, in our post game. I figured you were too probably bombed up to join.

Yeah. I didn't want to join. You didn't want to, I just, I, I was, I was letting, I was letting other people, where'd you watch the game? I just watched it at home. Oh, any first half I went, I watched it at home.

Second half I went out. Oh, okay. Yeah. Nothing. A new segment on the show called shakeaways. Tim Shea takeaways. Nice mug. Any Tim shake aways from the Packers game?

Give me your three biggest shakeaways. Uh, Jordan love looked okay. He looked good.

I don't want to say great. He looked great. He looked, he looked good. He looked good. Um, I started cocking off on CBS Saturday night. We might, we might have a kicker.

Maybe 52 yard or that would have been good from 70. Oh yeah, sure. It was halfway up the post. Um, one more shakeaway, one more shake away.

Um, you know, I, I, you know what? I wasn't at the game, but I will take something from Matt LaFleur's press conference because I used to work in the industry trying to get faster on those replays. Green Bay scoreboard department. Oh, the scoreboard slow on the replay.

He said he needs, needs the production crew to get those replays up a little faster. So they're talking about the dubs play. Yeah. Yeah.

So those are my three shakeaways. That's good. I'm really glad that that play got overturned because then instead of it, like being like a, Oh, that would have been, it was, and then they scored on that drive.

They had to go what 94, 96 yards, something like that. That's like there. If Jordan love the way he's playing, if Bryce young or CJ Stroud or Anthony Richardson, if any of them were playing like that, you would be hearing so much hype about how the savior is here for Carolina and all that stuff. So, um, we, we are watching a real good thing. Now there is like a one, there's like a half percent community that is trying to make Sean Clifford a thing. I mean, he's will be a good backup. Yeah. Yeah. Would I, would I, would I fear Jordan love going down? Maybe some are saying that Sean Clifford was born 15 years too soon. Cause he'd be a natural progression to, uh, well, he played off like 17 years at Penn state that he was eligible to.

So yeah. I mean, he'd be a good backup. I mean, I would like to see this other guy too.

Alex Magoo, USFL MVP, who didn't get his chance in the last game, obviously because of what happened. But I think you might see a lot of him in the Seattle game, which kicks off at noon. That's why I'm going, are you going to the game specifically because it's Saturday at noon? Are you taking your son? I am.

Oh boy. I wanted a preseason game cause then he can see the sights and sounds, but then daddy's not like checking his fantasy and not paying attention. I'm going to, I'm like going to be a dad instead of a loser. Not ordering, you know, your fifth beer. Well that, I mean, it's preseason.

No, gotta get, gotta get through it somehow. Um, okay. More Tim, Tim. What? I like it. I like the shakeaways. The shakeaways. Yeah. More great content coming up.

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And then if anybody ever asked me my resume, I just send them the picture. I think I'm arranging a special guest to come out for you. Oh, tell you who but and you're not coming to the tailgate. I don't know yet.

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Very nice. Bring in some coolers. And some ice. need ice.

Hey, guys, it's gonna be 100 degrees. I just bought some waters today. Forget the beer. We're all gonna need water. Yeah, I bought waters.

Hey, everybody down in Franklin checking in. Had to get up on these brewers. Disappointed with the results. And Los Angeles was going to call but didn't really want to be Mr.

Negative. So laid off and the Brewers really turned it around. What a fantastic series against a really good team.

Everything that went wrong in Los Angeles went right in this last series. Top to bottom with the relievers we have in the starting pitching. I mean, we we can compete with anybody. Obviously, the hitting is the problem. When we get up against these, you know, top tier offenses, we have trouble but we figured out how to get Scherzer out of the game. I've always thought to myself, if we're up against these acres, why don't we have some longer at bats instead of letting these guys, you know, get full six, seven innings, sometimes eight on us with these, you know, have these Ryan Braun at bats, you know, if you can, I know it's easier said than done, but the brewery showed that they could do that with I mean, they had Scherzer on the ropes and the third my God, he was sweating bullets. So it can be done with some smart, you know, even if you're not hitting the ball or guys got some good stuff, you can file off a bunch of pitches, make them work, make them work. I always say, but it's exciting. I like this young talent.

I really like Freelick. I'm interested to see, I believe we're gonna, you know, get to the playoffs. We'll be interested to see if we can catch a series and just see what happens with this pitching. You know, you got a puncher's chance.

I look forward to seeing everybody at the brewery. All right. Yep.

John Franklin. Oh, do you like my name tag idea? Should I bring name tags? Hello.

My name is so-and-so. I feel, I feel like this is a name tag situation. Yeah, I guess.

At least in the part. I mean, it's going to be like, like I think of a guy like Austin, you know, who might come a little later, I think, but he's, he's been on these YouTubes and stuff. And people are going to be like, Austin? Austin?

You are, if it just says Austin. Do you think there's going to be a lot of like weirdness? Like, are you, are you? I do. That's why I think that name tags is a good idea.

Not weirdness, but awkward, awkward moments. Yeah. That's why I'm telling people to come fucked up. Okay. Good to know.

Oh, nevermind. I'm not coming. Stay hydrated.

Don't pass out on my accord. Is there anything going on after? Is there like a post game? I've been telling people your place. Kelly's bleachers.

Well, I don't know if people want to keep the party going. I'm, you know, he took the day off already. I'm sure. How much of the brewer series did you catch? It was, it was, it was shitty to go to LA and score a total of three runs. I'm, I'm, I caught a lot of this road trip actually.

I went to a game. Oh, in Chicago? Yep. I don't, did I know that? I don't know.

You might have. So they swept the White Sox. What did we talk about that we wanted them to go five and four? I said, yeah, I said six and three. So they did that by sweeping two and getting swept.

Yeah. It's a very weird road trip, but yeah, I did actually watch most of this road trip. I saw, I watched all, I watched all nine games. This was like, we're getting to that point now where, you know, I'm fully in, I am in, I am, you know, I, I, I, this is, these games are going to get intense.

They're going to get, they're going to be fun. I watched the Dodger series sucked, especially when they should have won maybe two of those games. The Texas series was great. We chased Scherzer right away, but three innings, four innings, it was all over the place. 99 pitches hitting the ball. Santana's hitting the ball.

Mark Hannah's hitting the ball. He's a big foodie. Really? Yeah. He like really, he was just on MLB central or whatever show that is that nobody watches. And he's talking about how Milwaukee's got a good food scene. And Daniel Vogelbach was giving him a bunch of suggestions on where to eat. Okay.

To play to that stereotype of bogey. Yeah. So I, I, I, good road trip. Six and three, we wanted five and four and they went six and three. So what they gained a game on the Cubs, they're up three on the Cubs up four on Cincinnati. So it's, it's going to be a fight towards the end here. So just keep winning games, keep winning series.

Don't look behind you. You know, the Cubs, you're going to have to play, you play the Cubs six more times. So you don't play the Reds, which is kind of disappointing, but I guess we handled the Reds pretty well this year. Yeah. Including last weekend of the year, we got the cubbies.

Yeah. So we, we, and then we might get them again for the first three playoff games. There's actually, I mean, if they keep winning and we keep winning, there is a very good chance that we'll get the Cubs for three playoff games in Milwaukee. Oh man. No, that would, I don't want that.

I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever want that. Or you could get Miami. Miami is still in there.

Arizona is still alive for that last wildcard spot. So never, ever, ever. I do.

I want the Cubs here for a playoff series. Well, you might get it. So, cause then we'll do that dumb Wisconsin free sale thing again. No, they won't do that.

No. Well they, you know what? They were doing that before, like, you know, they open it every day, like season ticket holders and then 20 game packs and then 40 game packs. And then can I legally run a 50 50 on the Brewers parking lot? Well, the Brewers have their own 50 50. I know I was going to run one to cover some of the costs of the meat.

I mean, you could, I don't know. That seems like a lot of work. How many people are going? Just let's do the math right now. If everyone gets two bucks, there could be 60 to 70 people. I don't think I have enough squares.

If everyone, you know, gives two bucks, then if they're 70, there's one 40 split it in half. There's like, you know, every time I go to the grocery store, I'm picking something up, but I'm throwing the tailgate. Do you want to lay a tip jar out? Too tacky? I don't know.

Should I just like plaster my Venmo all over the place? At Winkler Bar, by the way. How was the White Sox stadium?

Good. Much better than the Cubs, obviously. Their fans are nicer. I've not been to that one. Obviously there was a big rivalry between the White Sox and the Brewers back in the day. Fights, I've been told fights would break out in the bleachers, but no fights. Fans were nice.

I will say this. These are these two guys and there were a couple, but there are, there are actually more, but there are White Sox and Cub fans. Like one as one. Like they're a White Sox fan and a Cubs fan.

Which is kind of annoying. I don't know. I've, I feel like if I was in a town where there were two teams, like if you lived in New York, would you be a Yankees and a Mets fan and a giants and a jets fan?

I, yeah, I feel, why wouldn't you? My uncle lives, some of my family lives in Chicago and my uncle has come out and said that he cheers for whoever is, has a playoff spot and going farther. I mean, I can't imagine having such town pride and then not liking a team from your town. And I get that that's different parts of like Bronx and Queens, but I don't know. I'm surprised Chicago doesn't have more of that. Like New York and LA, they don't have two football teams or two basketball teams or, you know. Yeah. They sometimes they get like reference to someone that could have one, but they don't even have a stadium for their one football team.

It's true. Don't even know where they're going to play. I always, so I would, if I was in New York, I would have been for sure a Mets fan. I wish for sure would have been, I know that. And then I would have probably, I'd be a giants fan. I feel like Mets and giants, but I might've, I might've, it's usually Mets and jets and giants and Yankees.

Yeah. That's how it would go. And then I think the Rangers go, unless my dad, it would have been whatever my dad was.

I think the Rangers go with the giants and Yankees and the Islanders go with the Mets and jets. If I was in Chicago, I'd be a Cubs fan. I was a Cubs fan. Oh, WGN.

I watched, I think I watched more Braves games than Cubs games when the Braves were on the super station. Oh, Ryan Sandberg, Andre Dawson. Those, those are my guys. Fred McGriff, Greg Maddox. Yup.

Mark grace. Those are my dudes. So the White Sox stadium was good. Yeah.

White Sox team was good. I always liked when, when what, Tim? Your video went away.

Yeah. Your Dan Cheney YouTube stream went away. I always liked it when the Brewers would play the Cubs or the White Sox, because some games weren't a lot of games right on TV back when I was growing up, we're growing up. They were on once a week on channel 12, I think, but only the road games, something like that. So like all of a sudden, and they would black out the games on WGN, but then they would like come back and like the seventh inning.

So we could catch it. I'm like, Ooh. Yeah. That kind of does ring a bell. Yeah.

Yeah. I watched a lot of baseball as a kid. I, I watched a lot of baseball. Like I watched a lot of Cubs. So I watched a lot of summer. And then I'm thinking like, why wasn't I like with my friend?

What was I did not have friends. Thank God for my dad and his company to have brewsies and tickets. So we went to a lot of.

That's instead of, instead of like, cause there are people who are like, well, yeah, but I'm the Cubs fan because we didn't get. So I went to one with a Japanese wrestling exchange pro. Oh Jesus. My video, a Japanese wrestling exchange program. Okay. We'd like a whole section. Nice. They were like crazy into it. Yeah. White Sox stadium. Good.

Comparable prices with food and drink. You know, you didn't have to worry about getting into fights arguments with fans. Yeah. Well they suck too. Yeah. Uh, for them being that bad, very good turnout. Very good.

Sorry. Was there a lot of Bay brewer fans? Yeah.

Not as many as I thought there would be. I don't just don't think brew fans like going to Chicago because when they go to Wrigley now game one 63, there's an asterisk because I think didn't tickets go on sale like that night. So anyone could buy them fans there where as a regular season game, there aren't like, it's not like overload of brewer fans. You know, I would love one day for there to be over 50% of everything.

Yeah. I don't see that ever happened. That would never happen. I just don't think there's plenty of tickets to buy for brewer fans.

I just don't think that one. Well, one of the things that we get wrong is like, we think that we get invaded by Chicago. We get invaded by Racine people at Marquette. Yeah. We get invaded by Marquette. You get invaded by people here. I know plenty of people that live in Milwaukee that just are comfy.

Yeah. Why are we talking about these losers so much? Cause I went to the white Sox team and that we could play them in the playoffs come wild card weekend. So the ranger series nine, eight wins six, one wins six to win the game Friday was fun until they were going to blow the lead. A lot of Dan Cheney insurance runs. That's good.

Big a big weekend for Carlos. What am I talking over? What are you doing?

I'm just nothing. Oh, it's something plain. No, it sounded like a cat was scratching itself. Hmm.

It might be your headphone. It might be. Yeah. Carlos Santana, big weekend, even though your boy rowdy Tellez is back.

Santana is the first Mason rowdy will just fill in here and there. Yeah. That seems to be what they're doing. It just happened again. What did you just do? I'm moving my, my thing here.

I'll just do this to make you happy. Well, it's not me. It's everyone listening there. Yeah.

What? All right. Can you hear me?

I actually have to put them back in. Can you hear me? Well, yeah, but I hear me echoing.

Why don't you just, why don't you just buy a professional microphone like I did? Because I'm not, this is there. Is that better? Yes. Okay. That's actually perfect.

Beautiful. Why don't you, you're going to edit this out and post, right? What? We always make that joke.

You don't know what it means. Oh, Tim, I have a question for you. No, I just did five days in a row at CBS. I did a swing where it was like Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday afternoon, Monday morning where it felt like I was there.

Like it felt like I had no break. And then I was going to work Tuesday night, but Gail doesn't need the day off anymore. I'm not working this weekend because there'll be in green Bay.

So I don't, and I have no soccer games coming up, so I don't have a scheduled shift for 13 days. So am I on a vacation? You are on vacation or am I unemployed? Kind of both.

What am I? You are, you are on vacation. I'm still like, I don't have a real, like this is my, still my job. Yeah. Obviously you'll be doing CBS stuff, but you're on vacation. It is less during football.

Yeah. Well maybe they'll move you into like Saturdays or something. Fam, I don't want to work Saturdays.

You sound like me. I got college to watch. This is, this could pop. This is going to be like, we're going to tell our grandkids about this college year because it's going to be like the last year before it got weird. So even though you're doing a tailgate, you know, coming up, you always got to think ahead to your next tailgate. Would you do one for a football game, a badger game or a Packard? No, not this year.

Maybe the people can change your mind. The tailgate, I should mention 1840 brewing company in Bay view. They are bringing tents. They are bringing tables. I believe Marty set up these things a bunch in the past. They've got like I should go get a bottle and show you, but a nice size bottle of all these different beers that they brew. So there'll be bringing enough for everybody to try one. And Marty's someone who a while ago they, he reached out and was like, I want to host a Bart Winkler hurry up. Remember we never did, but he was like, I want to do one.

And then, um, I'd never like have done it. And I thought this tailgate thing, which was really supposed to be a game between you and me, whatever it's turned into. Um, well, maybe we can start the hurry ups in a couple of weeks, you know, like maybe we can do one on the seven do go live during the first game or before the first game.

Uh, no first game. I gotta, I gotta be home chiefs and lions. I gotta be home for that. Okay. Well, maybe we can do one like the Saturday before Packers bears, like at the broth stop. I, um, I think, I think we can, let's, let's plan on our McGuire's. Yeah. Let's plan on an 1840 brewing hurry up in Bay view and let's plan on a McGuire's hurry up. Okay.

So let's plan on two Bart Winkler hurry ups and we'll see what kind of crowd we got. Yeah. I don't want to do them every week. No. Cause I like to listen to the actual huddle.

I like to listen to it. Uh, and so we'll do the hurry ups. Look at the hurry up on two different days. Yeah. I'm an employed. Should I start looking for jobs again? It's up to you.

How about this? Should I buy a blue check Mark? No, but if I can get paid, it says I met the qualifications.

I just got to get the blue check Mark. Bart, let me ask. I don't really believe people are getting paid. Let me ask you this because I don't think you have, I don't think you did answer this when I asked you back mid season and at the beginning of the year, are the brewers going to make the playoffs the post season? Well, I'd be foolish to say no now. I think you said no. I think you were leaning towards no all year when I've asked you.

I probably was. Are the, you know, like now that we're getting down to what the last like 35 games, are the brewers going to make the post season? Well, yeah, I, I think I have a very specific take on this is that this is as bites of the apple as it gets. Like the brewers beating the Rangers was kind of, that might change perceptions a little bit because the Rangers are very good. And even though we like, Oh, we beat the right, like, we still think the Rangers is they're very good. I kind of got, you know, how I always say on the radio, I'm always like on CBS, I'm like, call about anything.

I'll talk. One guy goes, or the, Hey, the Astros is going to miss the playoffs, huh? I go, probably not. He goes, that's the word on the street. Well, they, they look they're in the race.

I don't know. They're the Astros. They've been in the ALCS every year since 17. Then one guy, I think thought sometimes what happens is they think I'm a local guy when they call in. And so some guy from Toronto was like, man, we got to move Laddie down in the order. Yeah.

Like, I still believe in Laddie. I say, lead them off. How far did the Brewers go? Well, it's like, I, I would put Braves and Dodgers as the NLCS. But if we can get like, okay, so we're competitive with the Dodgers, but they always beat us. We have to do what we did with, with the Texas. We have to, the pitching has to show up and they have to hit.

Here's the thing. They're not going to pitch their way. As good as the pitching is, they're not going to pitch their way to a world series.

They are going to have to hit. You have trust in the back end of this rotation, because if we do have to play three games in the wild card, there go your one, two, and three pitchers for games one, two, one and two, because they're starting the playoffs right away. So not only we may need, you know, who knows what happens towards the end of the season. We may need those, you know, two of them to close the season out to solidify.

Well Houser's at a decent month. I mean, the ERA is 380, but do you trust the back end of the rotation? And let's say we just clinched a post-season spot. Do you then care about the division or do you set your rotation up that one, two, and three can go that burns per burn Woodruff burns and Peralta can go in the wild card game. And who cares about home field? Oh no, I'd want home field. So then you, then you would prefer those, those one, two, three, you know, let's just say those last three games against the Cubs is just for, if that comes down to the division, would you rather go to Wrigley? Let's just say it's the Cubs and Brewers, or would you want to play these games at home? Well, I want to play them at home. What advantages are playing at Wrigley? I don't, what's the shake away on that one.

I don't get it. What's the advantages of playing at home when there's seven, when there's 70% Cub fans. You sleep in your own bed? Sure. Yeah. Let's can look at the monitor and steal signs. I just saw something come in and you might need to Michigan is self-imposing a three year game suspension for coach Jim Harbaugh.

Yeah, that's stupid. So does that mean he's suspended for three years or? Three games. Oh, three games. Okay. Yeah. They agreed on four and then the NCAA is like, actually no. And then, uh, now Michigan's like, we're just going to give him three and you better like it. Okay.

And then Harbaugh's probably just going to leave anyway. Sorry. Anyway, back there. So you would rather play at home? I don't think it matters.

Homer. And if you're, if we're playing the Cubs, I don't think it matters. Well, if it doesn't matter, then play at home.

Then, then, then you have to depend on the back end of your rotation. And do you trust them? Do you trust? I mean, I trust Adrian Hauser as much as anyone can ever trust Adrian Hauser. Do you trust Wade Myler? Do you think Wade Myler? I have more confidence in Wade Miley than any other time that he has been a Bruin. Do you think he's starting to slide a little bit? No.

Okay. I have more trust in Wade Miley than I ever have. What if they bring Eric Lauer back?

Would you trust him? Uh, then I would, uh, I was going to, I was going to say jump off something, but you can't joke about that. So just something to ponder about come, you know, mid September or whatnot. Thanks for another Tim Shay classic question. Would you rather play at home or on the road? I I'm not, I'm just saying I get against the Cubs.

Yes. You would rather play at home. I want to go to playoff base one game, but does it matter if you're setting up your rotation? If you want your aces to go, I get what you're saying.

I get that part of it. If you want your aces to go, then who cares? Then set it up and go to Wrigley and win two games. I think you just play. I think you just play as it comes. Then you just play as it comes. Okay.

You just keep them on their normal rest. Don't well. Yeah.

But I'm just saying once if they, if they clench a spot in the postseason and still have to battle for the division and it's the Cubs and they're up two games, you're playing the Cubs here at the end of the season, how would you approach it? Uh, Tim? Yes. Any quick Badger thoughts? Um, yeah, I think they're going to be okay. They got a trap game right off the, you know, week two at Washington state trap game slash revenge game.

Revenge. Yeah. Um, which is crazy to say. Uh, then they have a night game at Purdue on a Friday night. That's no fun to go into Purdue. So I, I, I, you know, if they can get out of those two games, I could see them being undefeated going into the Ohio state game, Which you will be there. Which I will be there.

That's my big trick. I said that there's one night that, uh, forward Madison has a game during a Badger game homecoming early. Uh, when they play Washington state, I'll be in Madison. Yeah.

The Badgers will be on the road. Yeah. So you got that. Yeah. I don't have to deal with game day traffic, but I don't know. We'll see.

I mean, it's the final year of the 14 playoff and final year of divisions in the big 10 final year, maybe even college football, the way, as we know it, as we know it next year, come to the tailgate. I do too. I hope so too.

It would be fun. Start COVID is going around. Get COVID just tweet out a test and then CBS will whatever.

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Eric. I'm kind of like, I'm kind of like, uh, I'm kind of like bummed about the preseason because I understand what the preseason is and I think that we all accepted it, but now the NFL is like, no, you're, you're not getting, you're not getting the ones versus the ones all the time. We're going to do it though.

Just in training camp when nobody can see it. I, I think that it's great for these teams because control the environment, all that. But as a fan, I'm kind of like bummed. I hear you. Yeah.

No, I understand. I mean, you know, I'm writing these weekly, what, what to look forward to, you know, pieces, 32 items for 32 teams every week of the preseason. You know, I'm talking about five and six receiver battles and stuff and not knowing who's going to play. So it does make it a tall order sometimes. So you're right about the joint practice thing.

And I think obviously when they reduced from four to three, I think that was in the back of a lot of coaches minds, Hey, we can get in if not more than a preseason game worth of work, you know, at least equal to where in one or two practice sessions. So that's the kind of environment that, you know, maybe it's not marketable for TV, but maybe it is. Maybe it's something that we have one day. So you never know. Yeah.

I don't, I don't mind that they're doing it. Just put it on TV so I can watch. That's what I'm saying.

That's all I want to see. I think obviously this is a quarterback driven league. And if I've done my research correctly, every team that is starting a new quarterback, whether it's a guy they've had in their system, like a Jordan lover, Sam Howell, whether it's a rookie like Stroud Richardson, you know, Bryce young, whether it's a veteran Rogers, Jimmy G, Baker, Derek Carr, all of these teams did have Washington was 500.

Otherwise they all had losing records. So I think like for some of the veterans, there's a little more immediacy, which I'll get to, but for these rookies, they're all going to start these top three picks are going to start. And I like that I, if you're going to, if you're going to draft a guy, either sit them or start them.

I like that. Which do you think has like the biggest, the biggest leash, not the best career, not the best like outlook, but which team is going to be the most patient with their guy between Richardson Stroud and Bryce young? Yeah, I think it would be hard. It's interesting because Carolina right now has Andy Dalton. I know he's banged up right now, but you know, he's pretty accomplished guy. I mean, this is somebody who started quite a few games and probably one of the best sort of pitch hitter starters, I guess that's on the market and he, you know, they paid him as much. So even though he's got the strongest backup, I think it would probably take an injury to get Bryce out of there or something really, you know, a tough stretch of turnovers, but we never really saw that out of him at Alabama.

I just wasn't the player he was. So I think there's a measure of patience there. Houston, you know, it's the thing where you have Davis mills, same deal. He's been starting the last two years and not been great, but he hasn't been exactly the reason why they've lost each and every one of those games. So, you know, I think both those guys, they want to do as much as they can to support them, not ask too much of them, run out of excuses, not to pull them. You know, with Richardson, it's tricky if you pull him now though, does it, does it kill his confidence?

You know, early in the season, let's say he's in a four game slump or something, you got Gardner Minshew, he knows the offense, you know, he's given team sparks before. Would that hurt him or is he the kind of kid who can go from there and still build off that and become a success? Yeah, I think there's different quarterbacks that there's different quarterbacks that would thrive under a year or two. And there's different quarterbacks that need to work right away.

The problem is once you pick one, you don't know, like you don't know how the other way would have gone. I think that, so for like Aaron Rodgers, I think that those three years helped turn him into the quarterback that he became. And I think now the Packers are looking at Jordan Love again. I'm telling you, this Packers Bears game in week one, I want nothing more than for both quarterbacks, Justin Fields and Jordan Love to, you know, 30 to 27, that's what I want. Both quarterbacks throw three touchdowns because I feel like the other fan base and the league itself, if Jordan loves bad week one, Packers are doomed. If Justin Fields bad week one, his career's over. I think both of those guys still have a lot of potential and can be very good. I just don't want the early expectations on them to be too high. Although, I mean, it's a fourth year for Love, it is, and it's the third year for Fields.

Right. Third year for Fields. He's got more on-field experience. I mean, you know, Love's rookie year, I don't know how much he got out of that as the number three QB. So, I mean, still, it is a fascinating game.

It is a fascinating rivalry that's taking on a new chapter of sorts. And, you know, the reports on Fields have been some good, some bad, not bad, but some underwhelming. I think there's still that feeling of, you know, he hasn't quite gotten there yet, but again, we, I can remember Eli Manning going to see him in camp one year and thinking, oh my gosh, if he can even keep a starting job and well, you know, end up in the Super Bowl. So it can look really kind of clunky at times and all of a sudden come together and he's a playmaker, he's a creator. The reports on Love have been very good.

I think he's, he's got something. I don't think he's going to be great every single week, but I think you're going to see some weeks where you think he's one of the more natural, beautiful throwers in this league once he kind of gets his feet underneath him. Talking with Eric Edholm, you can find his work NFL.com, the NFL kind of surprised people with their week one opening matchup where it's the Chiefs versus the Lions. And I think people are going to be, you know, people are, people are excited about the Lions. The Lions are the favorites in the division for the first time in three decades and, and they think they're going to be good and, you know, watch out for Detroit. Who do they play week one? Oh, the Chiefs and Arrowhead.

Oh, they're going to get killed. I think that, you know, of all these like week one games where we look at like, well, what if, and what could the overreaction be? If Detroit, I think there's going to be a lot of people that want to pick Detroit week one, but I don't, how can you take Detroit week one against the Chiefs? But if they do, then I think that reevaluates like, cause there's a pecking order in the NFC, it's Eagles. And then it's probably the Niners. And then what comes out of your tongue first?

Cowboys or Seahawks and then like the Lions, but if the Lions win that game, I would, I would think, look out for their potential. Right. Yeah. And you know, I don't know. I don't know, but I suspect that when Dan Campbell saw that, he said, all right, let's go.

And you know, you don't get these opportunities very often. I mean, you're an up and coming team. They, they finished short of the playoffs last year and they're given kind of the lead off spot, the marquee, uh, you know, marquee game in the opening week against the defending champs, arrowhead is going to be a, a mad house, but you know, Dan Campbell's thinking, we're going to throw the kids and kids and think at him, you know, we're going to have every, you know, fake punt onside kick every, whatever we've got trick play, Andy Reid's down for it. Great. We're going to show them something too. And so, plus if you're going to bet on the lions, you might as well do it week one while, I mean, they could flame out this year.

Who knows? Right. They could end up being the same old lines or whatever people say about them. And I mean, at least you've got kind of legitimate off season hype that kind of fueled it a little bit. You could still get bang for your buck out of, you know, chargers and Broncos games and whatnot, and all the rivalry they play the Patriots this year, that'll come. You can get that at week 13 and still make your money. But this is a fascinating gamble. And I think the lions will be ready for that game.

I don't know when, but I think they'll be ready. You mentioned the Broncos and I'm glad you did because this was a, you know, obviously Russell Wilson was not good last year by anyone's standards and Sean Payton came in there and his comments, you know, I think that Sean Payton's comments about how bad the coaching staff did last year, it's very like reflective of somebody buying a house sight unseen, and then they do the inspection and they're like, Oh, wait, I didn't realize the electric was this bad. I didn't realize the plumbing was this bad. And then you're not blaming yourself for taking the job. You're taking, you're taking blame at the old owner for what he did to the house. It does feel like it's like a safety net. Hey, if this doesn't go well for me, don't blame me.

I just inherited a dump. I think the Broncos, like, I don't know, Sean Payton, you know, he's fine, whatever. But a lot of this depends on Russell Wilson. And I just don't know that he can regain that form. He looked very, I'll just say bad last year. Yeah, he did.

Right. And I watched the opening preseason game and Sean Payton took him, had the first team offense out there for four series. You know, they didn't score the first three and Sean was determined to punch that ball in the end zone. I think it's, you know, he's taking a hard line, which is the complete opposite of what happened in Denver last year. Nathaniel Hackett did not play Russell Wilson a single snap in the preseason. Look, I don't know if that was the reason why they got off to a slow start, but I imagine it, it couldn't have helped.

Right. I mean, I don't think it was the kind of thing that, that, that made things better. So that's at least one little tiny sliver of what Peyton was talking about. Maybe he was trying to protect Russell a little bit, or at least give his players a little leeway for everything that happened last year.

Some good players on that team did not play well other than Russell. So that's part of it. And I think Sean also just doesn't mind being in the spotlight and saying stuff that, you know, that puts him as the target and he doesn't mind being the bad guy, which I kind of admire in a way. Yeah. Why not?

If you can take a little bit of the heat, go ahead and do that. I got to ask you about the Jets. You know, obviously we see them on Hard Knocks, which is more of a, you know, PSA for the team hype video than it is the show that we've been accustomed to.

Look, that first six is very tough for them. And I think we're going to know in the first six weeks that this is going to work or not. And I've seen Aaron Rogers for 18 years and I've seen an MVP and the quarterback I saw last year was very pedestrian, especially after the injury. I don't know how much that still lingers with him, but is it more likely to you that the Jets find MVP Rogers or that they find 2022 Rogers? Well, it's a fair question and I think they can't fully answer it right now.

I don't think we know. I think it's impossible to give a definitive, you know, rubber stamp, move it along kind of answer without knowing what kind of offensive line they're going to line up in the first part of the season. The assumption is Dwayne Brown is coming back at some point and is going to be ready for week one.

That feels like a lot of finger crossing for a guy who was basically retired before they called him last year. So, you know, and to think that he was, he stepped in and was pretty much their best lineman, you know, on the exterior last year. That, that, that worries me a little bit, but Kai Beckman, they're hoping he can make it through a game cause he's got the talent to be there.

Right. Tackle, you know, they're hoping that these, these minor injuries to guys like Ali Vera Tucker and uh, you know, Lake and Tomlinson upfront. I mean, they're hoping it's nothing big and that there'll be back in action soon. They'll have their starting five together, but you know, all the early fireworks in camp hitting Garrett Wilson and you know, looking like some old Rogers and some of these practice highlight videos, it's tapered off because the protection and that's the big worry for me, not Dalvin Cook, not any other part of that team. So offensive line right now and can Rogers work with that? Lastly, is there a team I'll put you on the spot and I'll tell you, mine's the Steelers, a team that maybe is not getting a lot of attention, but a team that maybe we should be looking out for.

I just, I really like Kenny Pickett in year two. If Mike Tomlin wasn't a below 500 team with that team last year, you got to think the world of him. Is, is there somebody else or is that maybe your team too? Well, it's funny you say that because I had kind of been on the Browns train all off season for that, for that pick, you know, like the team, tough division, right? I mean, you just mentioned the Steelers, obviously the Ravens got Lamar done and we know what, what a healthy borough and the Bengals can do. So, you know, I mean, it's hard to go from last place to playoffs in that division, but I think that both these teams are, are really interesting for all the men, you know, the reasons you mentioned, they, they both, the Steelers and Browns seem to really target need areas in the off season, defensive line for both teams, offensive line for the Steelers. Although Dan Moore's still starting apparently, you know, the, the big blocking tight end in Darnell Washington and they got Porter for, to help in the secondary. So, you know, losing Sutton hurts, but I think the Steelers could be really good and Pickett's been getting good reviews in camp. I'm backing off a little on the Browns just cause I really do wonder if, if Watson can thrive in an offense that may at times restrict his creativity as a, as a playmaker. That's the one thing that's kind of holding me back plus all their injuries. Yeah, there's been some negative press about Watson too outside of that stuff, but just in terms of how he's been playing.

So we'll see. Hey, always enjoy catching up with you, Eric at home, keep up the great work, read you daily and we'll be in touch. Thanks man. Good talking to you.