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This is our National Perspective episode for the week. Carlos Ortiz joins me, formerly of the Infinity Sports Network, currently of the formerly of the Infinity Sports Network. Seriously. my title is that's my title. Good to see you.
Lots to cover today. I do want to off the top, just do some housekeeping as it were some housekeeping. This is episode 775 of into the Winkler verse. 775 episodes. Since we started this podcast four years ago, how long I've been looking for work.
we we have been through a lot we've been through a new job in a another layoff we've been through new friends along the way i didn't know who carlos was at the start of this ride and now he's my brother from another mother oh yeah a non-white mother 775 actually my mom might be more brown than you right now i still kind of doubt that but she's very tan oh in terms of color oh yeah listen i i do a poor job represent puerto ricans everywhere like i am called gringo basically in every latin american country um at least you're fluent in spanish though right you would think no bueno so this is 775 776 will be tomorrow uh paul's still on vacation so we'll do later when he gets back. I'm going to go live probably in the morning. I have a lot of college. I got to talk about this playoff. I got to talk about this playoff.
Do we really need 24 teams? I mean, nobody's good. No, I basically, basically long story short is the 24 teams. It's not for money. It's not for TV inventory.
It's to give these big SEC programs a lifeline to still get in the playoffs because they're not good.
So I don't, I don't like the meaning behind it. I don't think it's going to, I don't think we're going to like it. It's getting booed by fans when they talk about it. I am going to try to read some of the people that have been proponents of this and try to see if I can at least see why a 24 team playoff would be good, but I don't like it. And I'll talk more about that tomorrow, probably live in the morning, unless I go home after I drop off my kid and fall asleep again, which is what I've been doing.
It's on the table. I've been getting seven hours of sleep a night. Good. drop my kid off from school come back home i sleep another three yeah and then i do that like at five o'clock i'm sleeping like half the day right now i must be sick no i don't i don't think you are that's just what your 40s are because i do the same thing my wife and i are big nappers saturday we i went to the gym i after getting maybe eight nine hours of sleep i went to bed relatively early that friday night wake up at like 7 30 8 o'clock go to the gym for an hour come back after breakfast and i'm asleep for another three hours yeah that you think that's just your 40s or you think that's because we don't have a lot to do no well i mean both things can be true but i totally believe that's the 40s because you know what my mother god rest her soul same fucking way when she was in her 40s napped all the time all the time i was left to my own devices all the time see i feel like i'm really like i'm really screwing up one of the great parts of being a dad is my naps are so deep that i can't just do the resting my eyes card yeah i can't just do like the half asleep i'm resting my eyes because i'm not resting my eyes i am out cold on the couch at dinner time yeah yesterday that four o'clock cbs window gone i woke up i'm like holy shit the cardinals are still playing yeah yesterday yesterday my family uh my wife and kid met somebody at the library and then he had a play date so I have this window to just watch football and to get a lot of stuff done I've got a lot of administrative work to get done yeah with the podcast believe it or not and so I thought I'll do it yesterday while I watch football I slept the whole time. I slept from one 30 to four 30.
I mean, I had to go see who won some of these games. Like I don't, this is the time of the, I don't want to fall. I want to watch these games. They're boring and shitty as they are. I want to watch them.
Yeah. And you know what? Boring and shitty is exactly what this NFL season has been right now. This product is not good right now.
Okay. We'll, we'll talk about that pretty quickly here.
So seven, seven, six is tomorrow. Seven, seven, seven. That's the episode we've been counting. up towards with our friends at pottawatomie sportsbook where i made the 500 bet we're gonna start to chase that to see if the bucks can win at least 30 games and that will start on wednesday hey it's it's brent remember brent i wish i kept a lot of those drops but i'm like i was just so enraged when we got laid why don't you love america brent good to see you buddy ah we miss you um brent you know what you should do sometimes you should leave a voicemail actually i would love if more people would leave a voicemail like oh what's what's the voicemail oh it's 402-915-2278-402-915 bart i'm a man i'm 40 that's the wrong drop tomorrow will probably be uh just a me episode which is like in family guy when they do just a meg episode but it'll just be me um but i do like i do like voicemails on those so if anybody has anything to get off their chest there it is for oh i have a simpsons thought for you later too 402 915 uh 2278 402 915 bart thanks to our friends at carl's place and the deals they have on golf simulators uh you can check out again below in the youtube comments see a lot of administrative stuff to get off the top So 777, about halftime, I'm going to head over to the sport book and I'll be broadcasting live after the Bucks Wizards. And we'll do episode 777 from Pato as it was written into stars to be.
I mean, I love that Pato's come on board. I told them just to have your logo on my thing. I should be paying you because it just makes it look bigger. And then they were like, actually, okay, you want, yeah. I'm like, I made a $500 bet here, dude.
uh you already you already got my money speaking of money carlos world series ticket prices in milwaukee are insanely high yep once in a lifetime experience and i really mean once in a lifetime i feel like that will be the case three thousand bucks pretty much for the get-in there's a lot of people in the ticket industry that i keep seeing their comments and their tweets and stuff where it'll drop they say it'll drop had Trent say I don't think it's dropping if anything it's going the other way you know I think three thousands of bargain you know the World Series ticket prices is like inflation it's not coming down people get used to the number you're seeing it's only going to go up someone was like um well if it's the Rays instead of the Guardians those ticket prices will come down and maybe there's some guardians fans that want to come here because it's closer but the milwaukee brewers could be playing the savannah bananas yeah they could be playing they could be playing the montreal alouettes in a completely different sport and it'll be an insane get-in price what was the team in uh league of their own they could be playing the racine was it the rockford peaches Oh, yeah. They could be playing the Rockford Peaches. A lot of that league was in Wisconsin, people hashtag for that. Yeah. Racine?
Rockford? I think Kenosha had a team. Rockford just across the border.
So it doesn't matter. They could be doing an intra-squad scrimmage. You could say the Guardians and Rays both forfeit. They don't want to play the Brewers. You're going to play yourselves.
You've already won the World Series, but you were still going to make you play the best of three, splitting the two teams. we would still because it's the world series i mean i bought this shitty hat i'm never gonna wear again that i think is ai font i think that's ai font i don't love it yeah i want the i want the normal hat with just the world series stitching they didn't have those right away i'll probably end up getting that too um i have my coat my one cubs world series hat somewhere i only bought like one t-shirt and one hat when they uh won the pennant when you win the whole thing that's where you blow out the bank account i don't even like i don't even somebody asked me that too i think it was emig he was like don't you want to wait i don't want to wait i want everything as soon as possible yeah i celebrated every single milestone i had the uh i had the wild card t-shirt believe it or not like i had the blue with the red lettering like when they won the first round and i'm like what am i doing no you know what i am doing the right thing enjoy every moment and then when they come to won the World Series, I bought every fucking thing I could. Hey, what's up, guys? It's Haley Bailey.
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What's up, fellas? Always great seeing you two together. And before you know it, we'll have a 96-game playoff. Yeah, we might just get, you know, college football madness.
Well, I love that college football is like we're going to expand the playoffs. And then this weekend was the greatest weekend ever, although it would not have mattered if there was a playoff. Correct. Like Arch Manning, by the way, stinks. Yeah, he's bad.
We've been, I think I've been beating this rum for a couple of weeks already, but I want everybody to come to my side and then just acknowledge my greatness. If his, if his name was Arch Jones, he'd already get benched for that freshman quarterback. That's taken reps. I am going to give you credit. I don't know how many other people I would have casually been talking about arch manning with and we did a show so there might be a pool limited to who i would have heard say this yeah that's a caveat but i think a lot of people not everybody was all in on arch manning right away and some were like you know if his name was you were the one that i think meant it the most and i also heard you say it first yeah so you said it first but then other people's i don't know if they meant you meant it you don't know you should know you've seen a lot of shitty quarterbacks oh yeah yeah because uh you know well even before even when we had drafted like daniel jones you know my friends of mine were like oh man let's just tank for arch tank for arch i'm like why no if you you want to tank for arch you're gonna get him you can get him you You can get him at seven.
No, I, you know, he's still going to get in the first round. He still is. His last name will not allow him to go into the second round or beyond, but he's not ready. It's not even that he's ready. I don't know.
I just, I, I don't think he's good. Yeah. With some of these quarterbacks, you're waiting for that game winning drive or you're waiting for a moment. And those haven't been delivered. Yeah.
Nobody's really separate. I mean, earlier it was Mensa from Miami. that kind of separated himself a little bit, but I think he's calling, he's falling back into the past, you know, maybe a shameless from Ole Miss, but like, I, you know, I think it's a good quarterback draft in terms of like how many guys are potentially going to be coming out, but I don't know if it's the generational quarterback that people have been hyping about for years. Like everyone's going to be a franchise starter. Like I, I just don't see it.
I want to talk more into the quarterbacks momentarily here, and we'll get into football in a second. And I did want to wrap up the world series thoughts that I had. And speaking of money, you better hope Cleveland wins.
Well, here's my plan right now. I have a ticket to game four in Cleveland that is available to me.
So it's not currently in my ballpark app, but if they win, I'm going to, it's there. And there's a, I looked into a situation where I can get a ticket. not at secondary prices.
Okay?
So I want them to go to Cleveland. And that would be for game four. God damn it, Tottenham scored. I need them to lose. Oh, no, the soccer.
Yeah, I'm in some pool, and, like, everyone is Tottenham, and I took – I didn't take them. All right. I'll turn that game off.
So that's Tuesday. I would have game four tickets Tuesday.
Now, Tuesday, I also have to coach basketball. which I don't know how, but I'm going to. Tell him round ball into cylinder. Yeah, all right.
So that is set in stone.
So then, ever since I sort of got that ticket, Tampa's won two games in a row. Thinking it's your fault. And I was looking at tickets in Tampa. And so I was going to look at game two, game four, game two on the row, game four. And there was like one ticket left.
there was a bunch of tickets available on Wednesday.
So I bought a $700 ticket on Wednesday in Tampa. I still don't want to go to Tampa. I would rather go to Cleveland. I have a friend that lives in Tampa I see if he can let you stay in his house Yeah Cause if I go to cleveland it i can just drive and stay at my buddies yeah that a good trip lined up all the stars tampa you gotta somehow i gotta fly there figure out where to stay nope my parents live in florida so does my brother but they live like four hours away it'd be like hey i'm coming to milwaukee can i stay with you in detroit minnesota can i stay with you in winona minnesota sure i mean it's not close at all just get out of the car room so it's going to be an expensive trip um but it's still it would still be cheaper than just going to a game here yeah and i sort of i've gone to road games before i like going to road games because people all get up on their seats and they don't sit on their hands i was at the trap 30 years ago when it first started yeah i just like going to yeah because road fans are more of what i want to be yeah they stand yeah you made an effort to go a lot of fans around here just like want to go to the game or i got you know whatever So that's, that's where I'm at regarding, uh, the world series. And, uh, we'll find out, but that starts Friday in Milwaukee against the winner of guardians raise.
We could find out tonight. It's the raise or I still think, I still think Cleveland has life. I still like Cleveland actually tonight. I still think they have life. Sure.
But they, I, I know they don't have, they don't have any business being in this playoffs. It's insulting that they're just far. I want the Rays to get in Because I think it'll be The most riveting series if you're a baseball Purist if Cleveland gets in it's Brewers In three they'll just quit a game Four And then we'll still spend $5,000 tickets Oh yeah and another 10 grand on Merch Mr. Positive Says boom shakalaka Great cool Anyway So that's the World Series We are brought to you by Happy Place Hemp Promo code is BART 25% off each and every order At happyplacehemp.com The gummies, the seltzers All very good Remember Congress is still trying to get this shit away from you So make sure you call The local senators and yell at them That's right What are you whining about over there? I was like don't let them No don't let them I'm a January 6 I'm really itching to January 6th something I'm a J6 for sure That's Jackson Dart number 6 by the way Is jersey number Well let's get into that So the NFC East is horrendous I firmly believe the 49ers are going to dog walk The commanders again So once again We will have an NFC East That does not win an entire weekend That's going to happen They said this is like the first time ever and back-to-back weekends the entire division lost when playing yes yeah i mean the commanders pending the yeah pending the 49ers dog walk the commanders like i think they will the four other commanders have no offensive line this is a brutal division this we can no longer make fun of the nfc south the nfc is by far the worst division in football eight wins can get it done well you had daniels get hurt in washington and he's back um even when he's healthy he doesn't know how to look at a clock what's up with jalen hurts so this guy dude i think his career's over i saw i thought tom palisero had the worst tweet i've ever seen where so jalen hurts apparently has blood clots yes multiple and he wasn't supposed to sleep yes so yeah so he stayed up 36 hours before their game in london correct due to like some of these guys are like man he loves football i mean is he gonna die that's yeah that's absolute stupid thinking like that's not healthy or so that's that's malpractice by the eagles but that also tells you they they couldn't wait for jalen hurts to get out i think they tried to kill him they're like we want another quarterback but we don't want to be the ones to like caught him because he got us a super bowl let him die on the field and that'll absolve us as a blame so howie roseman was like the mob he had a problem he couldn't get rid of so they had to do something about it correct you know but without like saying it right he was looking for someone to paint houses and then all right well we'll just we'll just let the medical team do it you guys paint houses it's a big dom if it was up to them big dom will just right behind in the woodshed but um no i mean all jokes aside dude i mean i i saw this and i immediately went to like i turned off giants fan mode i'm like i just hope this guy like is healthy enough for his life and then my second thought is i don't think we ever see jaylen hurts on the football field again and i'm not even trying to be hyperbolic but uh so number one you cannot play on blood thinners the nfl will not allow it and if you're unfamiliar why uh blood thinners is exactly what it sounds like it's you know you're thinning out your blood but so what happens if you take a hit you basically turn into a tomato you bruise immediately like you are a complete weakened state under blood thinner so you can't play uh when you're on that stuff um one clot is something but like when you have multiple clots and apparently like they found one in his lungs already and that's good you know it was the stuff that's life-threatening when it gets into your lungs or your brains because then you can have aneurysms and shit like that um i think the eagles were kind of already looking to get out of that contract i think they not they have the smoking gun that they're looking for i believe the eagles are going to be moving on they're going to be in the market for a quarterback whether that's draft or free agency but most likely draft with how bad that they are right now and i don't see a team rolling willing to take the roll the dice on on jalen hurts i i think we've seen the apex of his career and he was an excellent quarterback he got a super bowl i think it's i think it's over for him i really think that that we've seen jalen hurts play for the last time jalen hurts his career whether it ends or not he's out it should be celebrated but it's not but it's so weird it's like it's like it's happening and it's not supposed to be happening i don't know i don't know like do it to it took over for him in college that's how much of a quagmire jalen hurts his entire career has been transferring schools losing jobs winning the jobs getting supplanted by fold or all and all these or now that's when i'm sorry but like like yeah jalen hurts is like it never should have been and he's he's persevering and it's like nobody really wants to celebrate it he's like it's the multiverse he's from another uh universe and he's not supposed to be here right he's the starting quarterback from of the fantastic fours planet you know in uh the spider verse when they're not where they're supposed to be they start like glitching yeah that's i just feel like i feel like nobody wants hurts here nobody wants him to be good eagles fans even cheer for him reluctantly he's tom hardy's venom it's like you don't want it so weird fit it is so weird everyone's just no one ever wants to give him credit yeah he was the mvp of that super bowl that the eagles lost he outplayed my homes and nothing.
I think with Jordan love sometimes when he does well, people are hesitant to say that, but if there's an interception, they rush out of the woodwork to criticize him. I think that with hurts though, it's like 10 times what it is with love. It's so strange. I don't get it. Cause you know what?
Cause the Eagles have made all these moves. They got Saquon Barkley. They had a dominant offensive line. Their defense was basically Georgia bulldogs North.
So they're like, okay anybody could win with that you know jalen hurts just surrounded by talent how come the eagles don't have four super bowls but like he's a big part of you know their success so yeah i i don't know man but that outside of football it that's a situation that's totally scary and it bums you out man and i i hope he's able to come back from it but i just i just i just can't see a path back for him i mean health and for first and foremost but it's scary as hell so we'll find out what happens there we'll stay with the nfc east your giants um lost to the saints pathetic which was one of my predictions i i just felt like the saints something about the saints in new york dude vegas was all on it they had the giants as underdogs the entire week and people were like this is fishy this is fishy they were absolutely right saints covered easy how i didn't see why mccarthy was in so much so um there so mccarthy came in two instances once uh it was kind of a gadget play because jamis winston has no legs he will not run and he cannot run uh so it was the most obvious uh play design of all time was jj mccarthy was just going to run at the ball in a red zone package so miserably it failed he lost like three four yards and then brought jamis winston back in to like you know finish off the drive or whatnot um when he finally came in this is when the uh this is when the Giants defense had already given up 34 points unanswered so they're like all right Jameis Winston's fucking bad like truly bad and I you know and this is I know hindsight's 20-20 and I don't have any way to definitive proof uh to actually show you this happened but I uh I turned to my wife in the very first series that the Giants had where they went three and out Jameis had one of the worst throws on third down that I had ever seen and this is coming off the heels of the commanders tying with them where he had such a great second half but he threw the ball behind Isaiah likely or is it neighbors I forgot which one like 10 feet behind him if he leads his receiver at least a little bit in stride it's an opening touchdown to start the game it that didn't change everything obviously Charlie Jones fumbling before half that changed the dynamic of that game and you obviously swung 34 straight for New Orleans but when I saw that throw behind him and this is weeks after watching james throw balls in the dirt throwing guys overhead just just does not have to have the arm strength and can't move i look to my wife who's sitting in the left of me who i forced her to be a giants fan and i looked around i'm like i'm fucking done with this guy i've seen enough it's time to bring in jj mccarthy and this was the first series of the game the coaching staff had been looking for a reason and being down by 24 points in the fourth quarter, they finally made the switch. Like, I don't even think J.J. McCarthy's good, but I think he's a better option at this point because at least he can do some of the things that Jackson Dart can do, which is move your freaking feet.
So I think they were itching to pull the trigger. They did, and J.J. McCarthy kind of somehow almost let off a comeback, but that whole comeback was for Gaze, he threw an interception in his very first possession when he got in. I don't think there's a controversy anymore. I think we see J.J.
McCarthy on the road against the Texans, and we'll see how long he can hang on to this job. But that game was ugly. His entire division is pathetic. Is there any chance he plays so well he takes over the job from Jackson Dart? I don't think so.
Because if you're asking John Harbaugh what's one of the few reasons he comes to take this job, the promise of having a young, dynamic quarterback who has superstar potential in Jackson Dart, I think that's one of the selling points that ownership makes. I don't think he takes his job if it's potentially J.J. McCarthy in the future. I think one of the lowest things you can do as a human person is DM or track down or tweet or try to interact with a player or coach or anyone because of your bets or your fantasy team. Agreed.
That being said, I think I need to talk to John Harbaugh about Cam Scadaboo. You and a lot of people. A lot of people. what is the deal? What is why?
Okay. Tracy should not be on this team. He's no good. Singletary's no good. I disagree with that.
I think Singletary, I think Tyrone Tracy, they, they punished him too harshly. I think they were, they were down on him too harshly for the fumble. And he's by, he's done most dynamic back. He's the one with the, has the most speed. I think he's, you know, underrated in terms of a pass catcher.
I think they put too much emphasis on punishing Tyrone Tracy. and essentially gifted Cam Scadabo the starting job, and I don't know why. And I believe that's what I'm walking it back a lot. Like, if this was the 90s, he'd be a fullback. Yeah, no.
And he'd be the best fullback in the league.
So, all right, so here's the answer in terms of what's going on with Scadabo that the media and everybody on TV is telling you, and then I'm going to give you the real insight that I know why Scadabo is actually in a doghouse right now.
So everyone's going to tell you Scadabo has been putting the ball on the ground too much. And yes, that is true. He's fumbled more now than he has.
Well, I was going to say his entire career, but it's only his second year, but he fumbled once last year. He's already put the ball on the ground four times this year.
So certainly that's an aspect, but there are some behind the scenes things in terms of Scadabo and the team that they have not been happy with missing missed block assignments, team meetings in terms of how his preparation could potentially come in in late to meetings. This is a huge, like you need to earn this right now. you are acting like a superstar type move and we cannot have this shit like the fans love scatibow media love scatibow the team is like you need to come back down to earth so they made a strong over correction in terms of the market by punishing camp scatibow yesterday unfortunately with how bad all the other running backs are either gonna they're gonna have to walk that back and you're gonna see scat become the starter again or at the very least get some carries because nobody produced on the ground against one of the worst Russian defenses in the league. The other team, just to wrap up the NFC East, is the Cowboys, who I thought would go to the Super Bowl. Yeah, me too.
Thing with the Cowboys is, I don't know what you can read from last night's game. The Packers don't lose to the Cowboys anymore. Yeah, I think it's like, what, once in like two decades or something like that? Their last loss was 2016. Yeah, insane.
That was the only Packers loss of the Cowboys since Barack Obama was inaugurated as president in 2009. And if you don't like politics, here's a sports one. They've only lost to the Cowboys one time since the Yankees last won the World Series. How about that?
So it's been 17 years. The Packers are now 11-1-1, I think, against Dallas. There was a tie last year. But Dallas doesn't beat them. And I do think that last night's game was a little weird for Packer fans, I think, because we were just like every night Brewers high stakes, getting wins, feeling the high.
I think even the Badger game against UCLA that they lost on Saturday night had higher stakes than this Packers Cowboys game with it being early in the season and the NFC outside of the Niners sucking. and the Vikings are 5-0. But I wasn't worried about this game at all. And then I did the post-game show that I do, and I don't know that people – I think when your team wins, you want to hear all the good stuff that happened, and we certainly talked about that. But I don't think you can shake the fact that the refereeing in that game was so abysmal.
Yeah, it's so bad. And it wasn't just, it wasn't like, there's been, there's been worse. Like there's been games where I thought the Packers got screwed more where that one drive every third down they getting a penalty or whatever As a Packer fan the roughing the passers that we get called on us And then we never get that Jordan love never gets that call. Right. And Lucas Van Ness is roughing the passer was not that anyone with a brain.
Even if you're trying to argue, it should be roughing the passer. You it's like when a defense lawyer saw the guy kill the person, but still has to, like, they don't have their heart in it because they know they're wrong.
So I don't know what's going on there. But also, that came after an interception which negated it. There were more. It really felt like, because a lot of times when we see incompetence and we're like, what's going on here? I think the simplest answer is the easiest.
Oh, no, they're just incompetent. last night's game if we ever find out that there was rigging or something that's the game to point to that would be a game where we look back and say obviously it was this game where they were trying to get the cowboys a number or somebody suggested somebody suggested to me last night that maybe it's not just about betting maybe it's about extending the game right because now the it felt or it felt over early so they're like hey let's let's hang people on you know the game was over early so it could be like we want to you know for commercial inventory which nbc seemed to have double of but also now that it's one thing to like hey we're connected to some of these books or fantasy the prediction market things are a bridge i think too far because you're betting on the outcome of the game and the swings somebody said they're in bed with these i don't know though there's just so much money at hand oh if you don't think that they're like hand in hand with calci there's so much money at hand that i'm i'm willing to entertain anything yeah and i don't outside of this just this game the football this season for whatever reason and i think it's i don't think it's football i think i think college football has been entertaining the nfl it's it's worse it's a worse enjoyable product not a good product right now it's not a watchable product and so do people want to because like i talked about that and i was texting with it And then I just don't know if that's something people want to talk about. Do people want to talk about? Should I just talk about the game or do people want to talk about the product? Yeah.
I think people still want to talk about the game because you know what? I think we as a country in the society have put so much and invested so much into football that if the product is bad, dude, what do we have? I mean, yes, you still have basketball. You still have baseball, hockey, and all these other sports that are out there. but like we have become yeah we have become a football country that if the product doesn't deliver it almost feels like a waste of everyone's effort time and investment on this so i i think a lot of people are just being i hate just talk about the games it is what it is right now it's a down year if anything and you look at all these articles they keep telling you the ratings are up the ratings the ratings are going up and up and up but the product is not the quality of the play has not gone up, but it's just, what else are we going to hang our hats to?
I just, I don't want to keep talking about it and banging the drum, but it's not, like last night that game was over. Yeah. And we could have just all gone to bed. I don't know. There was no reason for a guy in New York, and I'm talking about me, no reason for me to be plastered to my couch at almost midnight to watch the Packers and the Cowboys.
I could have easily gone to bed a little bit earlier and call it a day. And the, the, the, the decision was not in doubt. The Packers are going to win that game, but somehow I'm like, why? Why? I'm like roughing the passer.
How? Oh, Dallas got the ball back again. Oh, Packers offense stalled. This is all fishy. I guess I have to sit here and finish this.
Doesn't make sense. Yeah. If Dallas would have hit a two point conversion, it would have been 23 15 with a chance for an onside kick. I don't know. I never felt...
For being a Packers-Cowboys game, which doesn't even matter anymore, the Packers always win. Yeah. I think a lot of us grew up in a time where the Cowboys were kicking our ass every year, and now it's just different.
So we still think the Cowboys is the Cowboys, but they're not. Yeah. I mean, I guess the equivalent for you guys in terms of getting your ass kicked is when Aaron Rodgers was kicking the ass of the Bears. you know you guys beat us twice and then thought that all of a sudden none of that all those stuff uh existed yeah or throw the record books out we talked about the niners um they play tonight the rams are bad they're bad and i i saw somebody say that they should start ty simpson i saw somebody say they're missing the playoffs completely i think or about bet it or about bet it at the beginning of the year we were all over that i didn't bet it but no good good for horvat I thought them and the Eagles were the Super Bowl favorites. Or not the Eagles, I'm sorry.
Them and the Cowboys. I thought they were Super Bowl favorites. And you know what? I should just retire. No wonder I don't have a job.
There's a comparison.
Now, Miles Garrett left the 4-2 Browns to go to the 2-4 Rams. Yes, it is. That's interesting. I don't know what people think Matt Stafford is. I think he's a statue.
He can't move. Jalen Hurts is better than Matthew Stafford. He's a controversial take, though. Yes. Yeah.
If Jalen Hurts wasn't dealing with clots right now, I think he's a better quarterback than Stafford. Yeah. Cause Stafford is basically the same situation as Jalen Hurts when he was healthy. And you know, Stafford has a bunch of talent around him, but no one believes that Stafford's a passenger. They think he's a bus driver.
Hurts is a bus passenger. Stafford's good. Agreed. Yeah, he's good. But he's not what people think he is.
Yeah. He's not. He's not that. I know he got traded for Jared Goff. I still think they're pretty much the same guy.
And Jared Goff is better. He hasn't turned the ball over yet. Goff's good, but he's an MVP candidate. There's like, if you ask 100 NFL fans right now who's better, they'll all say Matthew Stafford. All of them.
It's because his wife does podcasts, and he was on Little Caesars commercials.
Well, you won a Super Bowl. Sure, that helps. Goff went to the Super Bowl. Nobody remembers that. I know.
You're right. Nobody remembers that. You're right. Because that Super Bowl was horrible. The worst Super Bowl I've ever seen in my life.
I don't know. This last one was pretty bad. No, 13 to 3. Where I hate the Patriots. Again, I wanted the distinction of, you know, Eli Manning be the only NFC quarterback that would, like, you know, win, and then Nick Foles won, and then, like, Jared Goff just can't do anything.
Three points. Come on. I don't know where Nick Foles came to the equation. I think I mixed those two games up. but you get the point.
Chris Ballard fired GM of the Colts. About time. Way overdue.
So is, uh, Christy Carlson Romano or whatever the hell her name is. Is she? Oh, Carly or sorry, Gordon. Yeah. Yeah.
That too. Who looks into a room is always surprised. Although I would put that on. Yeah, me too. I would put it into a pretzel.
No problem. Did you get those Vakir pictures I sent you? Oh yeah. Oh my God. King Arthur couldn't get me out of that.
I mean, I'm just going to have to take an extra long shower. There's no doubt about it. What do you think I'm doing after this pod? But yeah, Chris Ballard, I think the only reason that Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen had jobs to begin with is Jim Irsay died. And I think Carly Irsay Gordon did the prudent thing, was like, I'm not going to make any rash changes right now.
Let me survey the landscape, get myself acclimated to being a majority, like the primary NFL owner with her and two sisters. And we'll just keep everything status quo until I decide that we need to make a change.
Now, the Colts had such a strong start to their season last year with Daniel Jones, where they were like 8-1, and then Jones got hurt and the wheels fell off the bus. I think even then, she did the right thing. You know what? I'll keep you guys, and we'll kick the cam down the road. Jones gets healthy.
Let's see what happens there.
Now she's starting to see this is who the Colts really are. Daniel Jones is really who he is. Jonathan Taylor is a great player, but you know, this is not what Indianapolis needs right now in terms of where the state of their franchise is.
So, Ballard was universally looked at as a poor general manager, and now the chickens have finally come home to roost. I think Shane Steichen's also a dead man walking, but you gotta have somebody coach the team, and I think it's more of a roster mismanagement than it is coaching.
So, they lost to the Titans. Can't happen. Cam Ward, who doesn't look like he wants to play in the NFL beat you. Cam Ward is not interested in being an NFL quarterback. And he and Carnell take out his first touchdown against you in your building.
So someone had to go. And while again, the roof was open. Did you see that? I did. And while you I know, I'm sure a lot of people want to blame Slyke.
And I think he's better at his job being a coach than Ballard ever was at his job of being a general manager, because Ballard should have got fired by Jim Irsay when he was alive.
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Rated highest by real guests through authentic reviews. Vrbo. Book a vacation rental loved by guests. carlos ortiz i had sent you recently some trading cards what did i send you tommy devito auto yes i i know it's somewhere in the house um i don't know if anybody cares tank dell's being activated uh for the texans great well that's why we're live at this time that's why yeah um yes tommy devito uh you i do have a rookie jackson dart card somewhere all right so let me show you these i went to uh the brewer's team store and the pro shop that some would like to call yeah not me though i call it the team store for some reason the best deal on trading cards in milwaukee is of course that's rough you can get 36 36 tops cards the new ones for seven dollars in the pack that pack's going for 15 to 20 minimum elsewhere how about that i don't know why it's lower there i don't know why but they also have this new set tops allen and ginter and so i got a couple cards i got a reggie jackson here um here's a roger clemens so they got some of the older guys and some of the newer guys then in the pack i don't understand why i got this lady she's a bit of smoke who's that her name is tori deal from mtv's are you the one and then she was on the challenge tori deal why did i get a trading card of her i don't know but let's see what her deal part of their the world's champions are you the one are you the one second chances champion of rider dies all right let's just go to what do i really care about images do you know manny fresh yeah of course he was part of the big timers uh why don't why the hell is either that is not a flattering card by the way gotta take a guess can you imagine can you imagine my disdain this is a baseball pack remember a tory deal can get it this is a baseball i went to buy baseball cards look who else was in this pack i'm still looking at tory deal pictures so let me see what else you got there uh oh are you kidding me rich eisen has a fucking trading card he's one of the reasons why we're not working oh rich eisen will forever be a fucking op yeah rich eisen rich eisen cost us our jobs essentially he's like oh yeah uspn's gonna give me money well fuck infinity infinity and odyssey's like all right well fuck infinity too rich eisen so i was gonna i was gonna send you this i've you and i both know where it's gonna go incinerator i might actually i would do a like brujeria which is witchcraft with that card and somehow siphon off his success into our own if anyone wants rich eisen manny fresh or tory deal send me a message i'll send them to you yeah see i i out of the three i'm probably interested more in a Tory deal, but I got Google images. I'm good.
And then what am I supposed to do with this? It's half the size of a normal card. Yeah, it's terrible. I have a Bob Nightingale card. What am I supposed to do with this?
I have no idea. that's hilarious Tory deal alright listen I'm still stuck on this alright I gotta close this page alright flat smack message me your address I'll send you Tory and Corey wants Rich Eisen Corey I'll give you Nightingale and Eisen Nightingale who can't fucking tweet right Manny Fresh I'll hang on to i guess manny friends believe it or not might be the most valuable of the three i looked them all up they're only a dollar because one time i bought this tops card set and it was some guy named like ryan johnson and i'm like who the fuck is this and it was like a famous collector they got inserts in the cards and i sold it for 80 bucks that's crazy yeah and i think it's worth like 300 though what all right so that's that the other thing i wanted to bring up with you is probably the most important thing that you and I need to talk about. If you missed it last night, Apu is back on the Simpsons. Oh, I didn't see the video you sent me.
So Apu, they had a tree house of horror special. They're running out of ideas.
So now instead of just the tree house of horror show, there are three Halloween skits things. That's next week. This week, they just had an extra bonus Halloween type episode where Apu basically was killing people throughout the town and there was an explanation for it they did a bunch of jokes about where were you um they rehired somebody Hank Azaria was doing a poo's voice it was found to be offensive so they stopped doing the voice but they didn't know what to do with the poo so you only saw him in the background now he's back being voiced by a guy who is an Indian American good however he's he's doing a hank azaria impression so he fired hank azaria from the role because it was offensive that he was doing a stereotypical accent but then he hired a guy to just do a hank azaria impression yeah essentially hank azaria also voiced dr nick who was back in the episode yep but they had somebody else do dr nick and it was horrible yeah so here what i think about the simpsons and And Kazaria great I think we at the point now Where the Simpsons Will last forever I think Once they got to like episode 20 and 25 Like season 20 and 25 The actors were starting to get like It's us or nothing We want raises all that kind of stuff That was about 15 years ago i think all of these actors minus one or two they can't be doing this forever right because they'll get old and then eventually they will die i think we're at the point now now that we're almost 40 seasons into the simpsons i think they're going to agree to let ai continue to use their likeness of voices instead of having because simpsons is going to continue So rather than have people do impressions, I think they're going to say, we still want it to be us, pay our families, you can use our voice and AI it, and the show will go on forever. That's what I think is going to happen now. Unfortunately, I'm probably with you.
The Simpsons brought back a poo. The gap of that was longer than the great era of the Simpsons. here's also what a lot of people say about the simpsons they say if you would have just ended at season eight or nine it would have been the greatest show of all time like no flaws yeah but my brother if the simpsons ended in 1999 and now we're in 2026 do you think that ip would have just ended with it in 1999 you don't think as new generations discover the simpsons there's not a hollywood reboots money grab situation yeah listen uh notorious big had more albums dead than he did alive if there's money to be had that that things are getting milked and biggie when he died was looked at as one of the greatest rappers of all time if the simpsons were to end we would put it in the pantheon of great american tv shows but it kept on going so yeah there's no doubt it would have been revived in some form or fashion but we would then then we would look at the old simpsons as the real simpsons yes new stuff is whatever right but why can't you just think of that now i do i mean i i've had this conversation off air with you i kind of do because i still haven't got caught up with some of the new episodes like to me the golden years was like when conan o'brien was all on that writing staff and like i look at that like that is my pantheon of simpsons golden years can't be touched and everything else has kind of happened it's like i just look at that as like the second coming of the simpsons almost like a spinoff but i it's this it's the same continuation the same direct royal lineage of king arthur's blood and all that shit like i don't know i i that's just how i've mentally partitioned those things off. I know that's not true, but that's how I just go through life. Yes, I think my point is Simpsons would have come back.
Everyone that thinks they should have continued, it would have come back anyway. Yeah, I mean, how many movies have done Freaky Friday? And that IP sucks. I didn't see the newest one. It's the exact same shit.
It's Friday, we switch bodies. Oh my god, I'm old. Oh my god, you're young. like a marsh becomes a robot have no fear we got stories for years you'll never stop the simpsons how about it has a cell has bart ever owned a bear how about a crazy wedding where something happens and do do do do sorry for the clip show have no fears we got stories for years i think that's my favorite the 138th is my favorite episode i mean they they literally had homer jumping a shark yeah all right last thing oh man this is the official this show's go with smoothly smoothly this is the official maybe we'll do more tomorrow but this is the official nba winkler verse preview you can't copyright this youtube blow me who's winning the title you thought i was gonna keep going with the bed uh i don't know not the Sixers let's go you know let's go back with I think the Oklahoma City Thunder will go on a revenge tour there I made a prediction I don't feel strongly about it but I'll go with that I would like LeBron to stop flying in the helicopter yeah that whole you know there's got to be something to it when NBA owners are like fucking reaching out to Pablo Torre please investigate there is something here i i'm rooting for the m uh for the pablo tory nba uh drama so i don't care who wins on the court i don't even care i'm so wrapped up in the bucks getting 30 wins now i just i'm excited for the bucks i want to see what this new team looks like hey kayla wilson for the bulls looks good so i have a mild interest but i don't think that team's gonna be any good i'm interested in the heat being bad i don't want them to be good suck they it's yannis and and bam it's no no disrespect it's milwaukee south it's just nice weather that team's not gonna be getting good they have no depth they have no point guard no they're it's the same team we had last year no i'm talking about the heat oh yeah but they it's there so what i meant to say it's their heat team that's here Giannis is not in any better situation than he was a year ago. Yes, that's kind of where I was going at.
That's why I said it's Milwaukee South. Just better weather. Who am I going to take to win the title? Thunder of plus 240 odds. Spurs plus 280.
These are at Pato. I don't think Spurs are going back. God, it is wide open. It really is. Listen, I mean, the Knicks just won for God's sakes.
But the Celtics took a step back. I don't give a fuck what they're trying to sell you. Boston is just another team in the East now. Does anybody really think Cleveland's making the jump? They didn't really make any significant moves.
They're just running it back. The Heat are not deep. The 76 made a lot of moves, but I can see too many teams getting in their way. If my life depended on it, or like I always say, no risk, million-dollar bet. Yeah, I'm going with the Thunder.
I would go with the Thunder. no risk million dollar bet right i'm betting your money not mine if you want i like to also go in order about how many teams down in the odds before you say i'll take them against the field i would go thunder and spurs and i'd be confident i'll give you the field if i can have thunder and Spurs. Yeah. I feel good about that. I'll tell you right now, if you have the Minnesota Timberwolves as your third team in the Western Conference, you are sadly mistaken.
That LaMelo ball experiment will not work. You're going to see Anthony Edwards. He's going to request a trade. He will not play with ball.
So it's Thunder plus 240, Spurs plus 280, and then for the East, Sixers and Knicks are plus 1,000, Celtics plus 1600 Raptors 25 with Kawhi back. I think right now in the East, I would lean towards Boston again. I don't know how you'd be confident about that. They got worse. They got worse.
They got Paul George for Jalen Brown. That's terrible. Yeah. They have a Paul George now. That's awful.
It's a significant. You gotta go Sixers. On paper. Yeah. where LeBron is your fourth option, but they're only going as far.
To me, nothing's changed with the Sixers. You're still only going as far as Joel Embiid's knees are going to allow you to. We'll never stop the Sixers. We got players for a year. Like, how about Tyrus Maxey?
Everyone's worried about the helicopter. paulo tory reporter of the year do do do do do do so i got you just you can't take the helicopter no there's something to this and you know what you know what i think another byproduct of paulo tory actually uh investigating the sixers and lebron and fanatics knowledge maybe we could finally find out what um this guy michael rubin has on everybody Why is everybody going to his white parties? Maybe that finally comes out. Oh, I think I know why. I think.
Other than the fact that he's filthy rich. Yeah, this isn't confirmed, but I think he drinks the blood of babies. It wouldn't make sense. And to get into one of these white parties, you have to sacrifice. Correct, your child.
Yeah. So Anthony Edwards is a shoe. He could just pick one. I just don't think you can look. Take child number 11.
I don't think you can. Michael Rubin's eyes are dead And he looks evil Like when you say When the expression is sold your soul to the devil With Michael Rubin it fits Because 5'3 I remember when Fanatics was just He's always the ugliest person in any room he's in He really is I remember when Fanatics was just like They were behind Dan Gilbert's You know fathead company And then all of a sudden they own every single merchandise jersey. They own tops. They own these stupid cards I was just showing you. They own this Tory deal card.
He might own Tory deal. Period. Maybe. You get Bob Nightingale and Rich Eisen to show up to a white party. I'm asking questions.
Have you ever nobody that Rosenthal at these parties? I don't want to be superficial or a stereotypical like judger of people. But usually when you look like you're an evil person, you are. You are evil. You're evil.
If you look evil, you're evil. If you look like you feast on the souls of the young, you probably feast on the souls of the young. And then you can say, well, how do you know if you look evil?
Well, it's like porn. You know it when you see it. yeah if michael rubin wasn't uh revealed to be a 300 year old vampire from like the uk i believe it there's something 300 old vampirey about rich eisen too don't you think no he looks more ghoulish if anything i'm coming to odyssey to take your jobs away i'll claim i didn't know i'm just going back to disney my home how many jobs should i take one two three i'll be at the end i'll take three jobs four infinity sports jobs five infinity sports jobs the color of the day is the color of the day is gray as in maggie gray you no longer have a job Oh, man. If we had a radio show, this is the episode I'd submit to the Marconis. JR, your time talking sports will be brief.
I'm going back to Disney. Bill Ryder, your two hours are up. Ryder had the best gig of everybody. Andrew Perloff, you are off the show. What are we doing?
It's time to zap Zach Delba. Zach Delba.
Well, you'll be fine. Yeah, he's either taking over fucking WEI or WQAM. He'll be fine. All right. Good to see you.
Likewise. Oh, good show. Yeah, we got it in. Your hand okay? uh yeah i got uh i got stitches because i sliced my finger open doing laundry so uh let this be a lesson to all you men have your uh women do it like this is the golden age of the 50s uh and um i got yeah i got just two stitches uh hurt like hell uh but i will get them off on thursday so yay me you will um you'll be fine yep i'm gonna take a nap i want everybody to smell I'm going to tell my stitches.
Ooh. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. Carlos, thanks. We'll be back tomorrow. Episode 777 on Wednesday.
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