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October 12, 2026 9:28 am

There was a lot more to the sports weekend than just the success of our favorite teams. Karlos Ortiz joins for a look at NFL Week 5 and the MLB Playoffs Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Go! Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome into the Winkler Verse. It's another Monday. It's a victory Monday.

It's a double victory Monday for me. Carlos Ortiz is experiencing a not a victory Monday, but not a not a Monday of defeat either. It's just Monday. This is Monday. His favorite football team tied yesterday.

We'll get into that. Carlos Ortiz joining us. We are brought to you each and every week by Carl's Place. You can get your voicemails in four zero two nine one five two two seven eight. You can also go into the YouTube section and find the link and browse the golf simulator heaven that they have and that they can put into your home or establishment.

Thank you to Carl and the crew over there in Milton. The Packers and the Brewers both won yesterday. I'll tell you this, Carlos. Before I get into your agony and some of the other NFL stuff, um, oh, quick, quick timeout though. Are you watching hockey right now?

Because I am. I am too. Rangers with a convincing win over the Vancouver Canucks yesterday, six-two. Thank you for asking. Even though Igor Shcherbina's done for a year, are they playing right now too?

Right now, so the Sabers are playing. Right now, it's one o'clock Eastern. How are the Sabers playing? Because the NHL, okay.

So the game on NHL Network right now must be the Rangers replay. There's, there's no way the Rangers are playing right now.

Okay, the Sabers and Panthers are playing right now. I thought it'd be on NHL Network. It's on ESPN Plus.

So it's like the first time I downloaded it, other than wrestling. But yeah, there's there hockey is hockey has carved out this window on Mondays. The Sabers are in it a lot because they're trying something different, and also they want a nice international window.

So they're, I guess, Monday afternoon is the time to do it. But yeah, you're right. The Panthers because in like Norway, Finland, Europe, the rest of Europe. Russia, wherever, it's like eight o'clock at night over there, and they can they can watch the prime time NHL prime time watching at five in the morning.

Okay, I I I might actually just put it on in the background just to have it. Maybe eat some pizza rolls. Yeah, so I put this on in the background as a Sabres fan.

Okay, which my wife now also calls the Sabres. I will watch. The Sabres, while I'm talking with you, and then, and then I I probably won't watch it the rest of the day. Oh no no! Once this stream is over, I'm going to video games.

So like the the Sabres and the Panthers will be off. Once the stream's over, I got to go to the store because I'm out of soda, and I'm about to do something I never do.

Okay, buy something other than Mountain Dew. Lacroix. Oh, Lacroix. Oh God! This is all I got loaded up.

What? There were the the grocery store was all out of crab juice. I haven't been in a while. I hate sparkling water. I think it's so gross.

Yeah, it's just it's fake soda. Although, oh, what is it? Polar. I I don't mind that brand. We got some polar up there.

Yeah, they got a cranberry um flavored seltzer. Like I can I can get behind that. Oh, so this is just like this is just like a high noon. This tastes like high noon. Yeah, but it's not alcoholic, right?

No, it's just water. Yeah, it sucks, and high noon sucks, and White Claw sucks. Oh, my wife is a big white claw. Like I don't know how white claw got so popular. It it's popular with white Long Island girls, and it just spread.

Like the summer of 2017 was a white claw summer around here, at least. Everyone was popping them white claws, white claws, claw tails. Uh, fucking Surfside has got a resurgence like the last two three years. Surfside was new. No, I feel like it's been a while for a while, but it's starting to hit its stride.

Like even I was drinking suicide this summer. Like I never used to jump into that, but you know what? That Allner Palmer mix that they have is actually not bad. All right, so the Giants tied. Did they ever?

So yesterday was the greatest non-championship sports day that I have. It was certainly the best Wisconsin sports day since the Bucks won the finals. There's no question about that. And and I I stripped it down. I said, okay, but what really happened yesterday?

They won a game. They won a week five game. The Packers did, and the Brewers won one game of a seven game set. Fine. Oh, good for you.

But it was it was much more than that. It was vanquishing not some demons per se, but just shutting people up. Oh, Bears fans need to shut up for a minimum two weeks. But they won't. They already haven't.

So Bears fans, the thing about yesterday was so many Bears fans came up to Lambeau ready to like really take over. And now, now the rival.

Now we own you. Retired. Yeah, yeah. It's over. There is no rivalry.

They got their ass kicked. They're claiming now it doesn't count because it's a backup quarterback. Nope. No. Even though they they, you might think the Bears were on an eight nine game win streak against the Packers the way we're talking.

It was a two game win streak. One was against Malik Willis for two and a half quarters.

Okay, so I don't know what they were thinking.

Now, now they're already moved on to Christmas. They are they are the Bears right now are the Walgreens of the NFL. Because everybody else is thinking about Halloween and Thanksgiving, and they've already got Christmas decorations up.

Okay, that's funny. Yeah, it's all right. I hope I hope I don't say anything too controversial. By the way, today, so Dan Levy doesn't come after me. Jesus, Shane Gillis said something on his SNL monologue about women at the gym are whores.

And and and Dan Levy's like, I'm gonna bring woke 1.0 back. One thing you shouldn't do is criticize comedy monologues on a comedy show. It's not the time to, whatever.

Okay, that is pissing me off. I'll give you a bell.

So we were we were just what a day, what a day. Bears fans trying to. Talk their way out of it can't. Brewers beat the Dodgers. The next game's in four hours from now.

We'll post game tonight for that again as well. Can't wait! Yay!

So it was a great day, your day. You had the one.

Well, the Rangers played last night, so you got that. Rangers played last night, so that gave me a sweet taste of victory there.

Okay, and then this NFL game, which. It was a tie, and ties are weird because at some point in the game, you either tie and it feels like a loss, or you tie and it feels like a win. Yep, because you were going to lose. The Giants were going to lose several times, and then they didn't.

So it's still a tie. How do you feel? Yeah, I'm gonna echo the words of John Harbaugh in post game where he says, "I'll take it." Dude, I I that over time I was dejected because I'm like we're going to lose. Cam Scaduto fumbling that happens. It's an unfortunate part of the game.

Sometimes it happens. I still look at this like this is his rookie plus year because he missed so many games last year with that season-ending injury.

So, like I get it, man. The defense has practiced the peanut punch left and right, so you're gonna get the ball knocked out sometimes. It's not ideal. But you know the Giants shouldn't have been in position to be there in the first place. I mean, they were down 14 points at one point in this game.

In this game, the first half it was completely over. The Commanders were bullying the Giants, and then Jameis Winston finally learned how to be a quarterback through three touchdowns in the second half. And then they were you know in position to tie the game, get into you know get into overtime, and you know the rest is whatever happens. This is obviously it's a tie. There's no doubt about it.

But Where everything was swinging momentum-wise for the Washington to come down and just you know do what you know what other teams do to the Giants and win on a field goal and send them home. Whatever I will absolutely take this. This tie is one million percent worse for Commanders fans than it is for Giants fans because. The Giants should have lost, uh, because they left you know nine points off of the table because you know Zavada, their rookie kicker, just could not find the uprights at all.

So you know, so he missed three kicks in this game. Trey Smack, hey, we won thirty-one-seven, but Trey Smack missed three kicks too. Yeah, yeah, but so, but like you know, all those points make any eight of those kicks makes a difference in the game.

So Zavada missed three kicks. You know the Giants obviously put the ball on the ground. It's far worse for Commanders fans because everyone knows you should have won the game. But where? What the fuck is Jaden Daniels and the offensive staff thinking?

Like there is no sense of urgency. There's only two groups of people that knew what was going on. With, uh, with only a couple set with about eight seven seconds left, when Jaden Daniels uh gets stopped, the referee because he's rushing to get the ball, and the Giants' defensive line, Darius Alexander just casually walking kicks the ball, so the referee has to reach back and try to reset the line. On the Commanders had no idea what was going on, and I know this was a tie, but this completely reeked. Of twenty-eight to three with Dan Quinn in Atlanta all over again.

This absolutely proves this guy cannot coach in big game situations. This is a this is a probably the nail in the coffin for him. It's a fireable offense. You give him a couple of excuses because Jaden Daniels getting hurt and that offensive line been banged up. They haven't had Larry Metcules all year.

I get all that stuff. If you're a Commanders fan, this cannot fly. If you are a football fan at all, but specifically a Commanders fan. Dan Quinn cannot survive this. This is an all-time big blunder by DC, and I'm happy.

I'll take the tie. We should have lost. Take the tie. Look, I was furious last year when the Packers essentially played for a tie with the Cowboys. That 40-40 game on Sunday Night Football.

But the Packers, by not losing that game, were nine-seven and one, and the Lions and Vikings were nine and eight. And the Packers would not have gotten in over tiebreakers on them, so they that tie.

Well, yeah, if they would have won, it would have been a game clear. But they weren't, they weren't, they weren't in position to win. They needed the tie. Um, or I thought they played for the tie, honestly. I yeah, because we we talked about this before.

Lafleur coach is scared, so like he he didn't want to lose. He didn't yesterday. No, no, no, no. He might, he might have, he might have quieted down a lot of people chirping yesterday. I don't think the commanders played for a tie because the tie was already there.

They just, they had no idea what was going on.

Well, and this is, I don't understand. And I always say, you should play like coaches should play Madden. I'm serious, and do like two minute drills. They should do. They should.

And the team should be in the auditorium watching coach play, so they all get on the same page of what coach likes to do. No one's going to do that, though. No, I I firmly believe they thought they had a third timeout. Yeah, even even if coaches don't play Madden, what else can you do to simulate these end of game drills? Teams always say, "Oh, we practice our two minute drill." Yeah, do you?

Right, I'm like, oh, we we run this four minute offense, and and these situations, no one, there was there was one receiver uh at the top of the on the top of your screen saying get back, back. You had guys going out for fucking fly routes. They were gone. They could have had an extra five seconds on that clock. The Washington Commanders do not get that ball that snap off.

So who do you got next? Ah, the Saints at home. And Tyler Shuck and the Saints have looked dreadful the last two weeks. I thought that they were going to be. Shuck was good a couple weeks ago.

I they they didn't look as good. I dude, he had negative points for an entire game yesterday. He had 98 yards and a pick. Oh, for a full four four quarters in the NFL, how does that fucking happen? Um, did JJ McCarthy play?

So J J McCarthy, they they showed him on the sidelines. He was like muddy. I they the kind of brought him in for like two three plays. I'll be very honest. I was so angry and already like twelve beers deep.

I can't recall when McCarthy was in, but I think they rotated him in and out just to do some like you know, funny business. Oh, she like we have a new toy. Yeah, they're like, oh, you know, hey, just uh, you didn't game plan for this guy. We'll throw him in here, and he just like, you know, hands the ball off to you know Najee Harris or whatever case may be. But he was in there for like two, three plays.

Hey, Carlos, it's time to light the lamp. The Sabers are on the board. I don't know what the Sabers' goal song is. I know the Rangers' one is. That one's good.

That shit got lit up lat, mad times yesterday. What's the Rangers' song? Whoa! It repeats four times and then it goes, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Also repeats four times and then repeat the entire song again.

How come, like, I don't know any hockey song ever, but the one summer all I had to do was hear Chelsea Dagger over and over. Yeah, for the Blackhawks. What the fuck? I don't know. But I also know Chelsea Dagger because of the Blackhawks.

Yeah, but that was like the only. That's like the only. And the Blackhawks haven't been good recently.

So why do we both know that song is theirs? Da da It's a great, it's a great goal song. You're gonna leave me hanging for that last two. It's a great, it's a great goal song. Let me get to some of the comments that are coming in as we are broadcasting live, as we do on Mondays.

Winkler verse this week. We're gonna have the post game tonight. Let me actually map this out with you because I'm on episode 768. We're on the countdown to seven, seven, seven. We're going to seven, seven, seven.

Thanks to our friends at Potawatomi Sportsbook. Where did you see? I did put five hundred on the bucks. I did see that, but I now they got to win thirty because I went for bigger odds.

Well, because it was minus odds. Yeah. If I'm not betting five hundred to win at least five hundred, what's the point? Yeah. Now the other time I screwed that up, though the Bucks will probably win twenty nine.

Because remember with the Super Bowl where I took the Eagles winning by nineteen or more against the Chiefs, yeah, you kept buying it up. I said the only way the Eagles win is if they blow out the Chiefs, and I think they're going to win, so they're going to blow out the Chiefs, and then they they were up by thirty four, I think. Yeah, and I'm counting all my monies. My human monies. We have the tech to get food delivered in fifteen minutes, but we all have horror stories about buying tickets.

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Download the Game Time app. Create an account for twenty dollars off your first purchase. Terms apply. Oh fuck this! I'm also in some hockey fantasy league with some guys I don't know.

You're playing fantasy hockey? Yeah. And what is wrong with you? The guy that just scored, I cut. Shit!

I don't even play fantasy basketball anymore. I I got roped into a fantasy baseball league with some of the old colleagues at uh the now defunct Infinity Sports Network. Where Bellotti's like the commissioner, and also made it to the finals.

So that league is not corrupt as fuck. And obviously, fantasy football, everybody plays that. Man, Jack Don, that son of a bitch. There's so many people I can't even pronounce their name. How could you play fantasy hockey?

Some guy was messaging me, always trying to get me in a fantasy football league, and somehow you went down the wrong sport. Like, oh, I'll take Brad Marchand. I know that name. I do have him on my team, but I auto drafted. I auto drafted.

Yeah, because how could you possibly? What are you going to do? There, pull out a fucking almanac and be like, okay, yeah, I'll take Nachootskin right now. You know. But I want to use brothers.

It doesn't matter which one. Give me one of them. Jack available? No. Then give me Quinn.

They drafted me like no goalies, so I have to pick up goalies. Like every day, I have to see your streaming goalies.

Well, you can get fucking Garland from or Garand from the Rangers because Igor Shosturkin's out for the rest of the year. I think someone's already. I think the city of New York has sacrificed all the other sports for that one Knicks championship. Because in a in in a span of a month, Jackson Dart and Brian Burns down for the Giants for the rest of the year. You're still three one and one.

You're still winning and tying, despite the odds. Igor Shosturkin sacrificed to the to the hockey gods. Aaron Judge, as much as I'm not a Yankee fan, sacrificed to the baseball gods this season. Like, if no Knicks get hurt, I'm convinced you know somebody sold souls just for the Knicks. But watch, Josh Hart's gonna get a season-ending injury in the first all week.

Something's got to give. It can't be all the other sports except for except for basketball.

Now you're not a Knicks guy, so no, this is not worth it for me. No, I have Knicks friends that are like, "Hey, fuck it, still worth it." Knicks and five. No, fuck you. I couldn't. I can't enjoy enjoy an entire season of hockey or football.

Both of my stars, RIP. As soon as the season starts, done. For the blasted Knicks, fuck them. We were talking. Brunson gets an Achilles injury.

We were talking last night. I don't mean that. Last last night, after the Brewers won, we were talking about if there is a Game Six, which I'm sure there will be. But if there's a Game Six, it's going to go on Sunday night against Packers Cowboys. Yeah.

What do you do? I I think you watched the baseball game.

Well, there's going to be so many bars. I mean, Green. It's a home game, so the stadium will be full, and it should be. And sure, places around Green Bay, you know, all those bars should have. Maybe they'll turn a Brewer game on, but there's going to be bars like in Milwaukee and Madison and all over the state that are like, can't decide.

We'll decide for you. We'll have both games on. Come on, fuck that. The Brewers. It's the Brewers.

It's got to be Brewers. I've said this a bunch this last week. I'll say it again. I love the Packers, but there's nothing more that I love than when the Brewers humble the Packers. Yeah, plus it's it's early into the season.

We're in October. It it should belong to baseball as much as the we all we all love football, and I do. Trust me, I I love football a lot. There's no feeling like postseason baseball. If your team's in it, you gotta you gotta be full send.

And I fucking hate the Brewers. I am full blown watching Brewers hate watch. If it goes up against Packers and Cowboys.

So do you want the you want the Dodgers to win? Ah, to be honest, this is my. Don't you? Don't you at least like one? My nightmare scenario is going to be Brewers and Rays.

That's my nightmare scenario. Um, what I want for absolute chaos is I want the Dodgers and Rays to make the World Series because I don't think whoever, who even won between the White Sox and Guardians. I didn't pay attention. Do you really not know? I really do not know.

I swear to God, I don't know. Yes. I want to say, there's no way the White Sox lost two, three straight. They did.

So the Guardians are advancing. Yeah, unbelievable choke job by the White Sox. Unbelievable choke job. I, I, you not. I did not look at it.

I. This is not performative. I did not watch. Why would you? It's Saturday night.

You had you went to the game Sunday. That was Saturday. That was yesterday. No, they they lost on Saturday. That's that's hilarious.

I really did not know. I don't think I was doing anything Saturday either. Oh no, I was mourning. I was mourning Shosturkin. He got hurt on Friday, though.

But yeah, no, I had no idea.

So it's gonna be the gar. It's gonna be the Guardians and the Rays.

So the Rays are get a bye week because the Guardians. There's no reason they should be in this.

So my nightmare scenarios: Brewers and Rays. But I think. I would much rather, and I'm sorry, it's not me being a hater. I would much rather see Dodgers versus Rays, David versus Goliath. But I want chaos.

I want it to see a strike. I need to see changes in baseball. The CBA sucks. I think the players have too much power, but I also hate the owners.

So I want the Dodgers to beat the Rays in five. Do you agree? Can we get? Can baseball ever change to pick your own opponent for the postseason? That would be the dumbest shit of all time.

I don't hate it. I hate it so much. I don't hate it. I think you know because because you know what's going to happen the very first time that someone picks an opponent and that opponent beats them. Yeah.

So why add why add that wrinkle? Why why win a hundred games when your reward's going to be free motivation for the team you're playing? Yeah. No, I get it. But you know, if you get a team like you know the like the eighty six win Cardinals.

You're like, all right. I'm gonna roll my dice with these guys. There's nothing more I hate than when in sports something happens one time, so we change it. Yeah, like, like, oh, the raise, the raise that they faced, the winner of the Yankees and Red Sox, and the whole AL East was on one side of the bracket. Oh well, big deal.

I would say if I had to bet money, I would put it on the Rays because I do think they'll get past the Guardians, and then I just. I still feel like if even if it's Ray, I smell sweep in that series. It's gonna be so unentertaining. Even if it's Ray's Brewers, ah, Jesus Christ, fucking Sabers! I I think they gave it up.

I think this puck just like everyone on defense just these guys. This Buffalo Sabers defense looks like my U eight soccer team. They turn the ball over and just stand there and wait for it to like come back to them. Play some fucking D. What uh?

What baseball needs to do, and we talked we talked about this a little bit last week, is just go to two divisions. I think scrap scrap the central. Send the teams in the central to either the west or the east according to geography, and make and give it a pennant race. They make this fucking guy. Jeez.

Did the Panthers win the cup again last year? Who won the cup? Yes, yes, the Panthers won. Because I'm like alternate. No, wait.

What? No, it was the Hurricanes. I'm sorry. The Hurricanes won it because I feel like the Hurricanes and the Panthers have been going back and forth for like a lot. I feel like they're the same team.

They really are. They really are the same team. But no, it was the Carolina Hurricanes. They they won last year. The Panthers won the year before that.

Uh, they actually won the last two before that because they beat Edmonton twice. That's why Connor McDavid is the fucking Mike Trout of of hockey. Who'd Carolina beat? Vegas. No, they beat Edmonton.

They because it was a rematch of two years in a row. Was the Edmonton Oilers versus the Florida Panthers? Carolina beat. Yeah, Carolina. No, you are right.

Yeah, it was Vegas. Yeah, they beat the Golden Knights, which was a surprise because I think the Golden Knights. I think they were they were a lower seed. All I kept thinking about on what was the night the Brewers clinched Wednesday. All I kept thinking about was the game started at nine my time and ended about twelve forty five my time.

So that would have been the entire show. Yeah, I would have been on air. What that would have sucked. I'm so far past being sad about losing my job because I I don't know that I'd still be at my. Probably would have quit by now.

I'm feeling like I can't do this. We thought we were going to daytime. How fucking out of touch of reality we were. We thought we did such a good show that we we had a shot to go to daytime. Yeah, we were we were feeling ourselves at the end.

It really was a good show though, and then we were getting laid off and just stopped giving a fuck. Are you gonna go to the Barrett Top Twenty Awards ceremony in Los Angeles? I saw that this morning. I what the hell is that? What is that?

I started with some clipart and did some bad graphics, and now we are the premier in all of sports radio entertainment. Fuck you, Marco Belletti called it best. You know that he he said that he broke it down to fine powders. Like Barrett came, walked into a room, declared himself king, and everybody ran with it. Is that okay?

No, that's what I said. Oh, I thought Marco said that. Maybe he said it too, but I know. Why does my face look like it's falling off? Because you're watching the Sabres play.

Maybe I got to get that K. Adams surgery. I will put it on wax right now. I think K. Adams is the most overrated sports personality in terms of looks.

Everyone thinks she's her. You know, that would eat her fart. Like, oh, K. Adams, so hot. That she's a five.

She's a basic chick. She's not unattractive, but she's nothing special. She's a regular girl that you can find on on the Loyola campus on the north side of Chicago. That's a five. It's time to play everybody's favorite game show.

How woke are you? Today's contestant is Carlos Ortiz. Did I just lose, Carlos? One question. Yes.

For five hundred dollars, are you celebrating Columbus Day or Indigenous Peoples Day, Carlos? I'm not celebrating either because I forgot today was that day. I'm going to go with Columbus Day because that's what I grew up on. But I understand some people saying that's offensive and they call it Indigenous People's Day. But it's Columbus Day for me.

I also Didn't remember, so there you go.

So are you? It's both days or just the one day? You're saying no to the indigenous? Yeah, I'm saying no to. Eh, I don't give a shit.

I don't care. This is very low on the priority list for me. We might be going to war if we're not already there. Call it whatever you want. It's Columbus Day for me, but I don't care.

Now we're now we're raiding houses of sitting congresswomen. I mean.

Some of these congresswomen right now are absolute smokes. They didn't look like this. Just like when you see a new teacher is like accused of sexual harassment of grooming a young man, you look at this teacher and it's like an absolute thirties bombshell. Like oh my god! Like I would have railed my English teacher.

She looked like her. None of these teachers looked like that when I was growing up. They all look like you know Mrs. Trunchbull from you know Matilda. I would have risked it all for Miss Radke back in the day, and I think we had a little bit of a thing there.

I would have thrown it down for my English teacher, Mrs. Daniels, and my algebra teacher, Miss Mayer. I would have absolutely put them into a pretzel. My gym teacher was pretty good looking too. It was what was his name?

Greg Winkler. Yeah. My dad was also my health teacher. How funny! You learned about testes and vajajis.

Now, but somebody's sitting, congressmen, women, and they're into some shit. Who's that chick from Arizona? That's like she had an affair with her female staffers. She like swing both ways. I want her Smirna, I think was her name, or some I don't know something with it.

Oh, she did that one. Yeah, she's like uh, sucked. I would like to see how much. Hey, Dan Levy's gonna come after you. Keep talking like that.

I don't even know who he is. Fuck him. Um, I am going to say that today on this episode of How woke are you? Today is Indigenous People's Day in the Winkler. Where's my five hundred dollars?

No, the answer was Indigenous People's Day. You goddamn it! I wish I I need the money. Today is Indigenous People's Day. Um, yes.

I I think that I think that they are deserving, but also more so, it's that Christopher Columbus. He got rewarded for bad behavior. He didn't discover anything. Yeah, he's the ultimate rewarded for bad behavior. It's so crazy.

Oh, I'm gonna go. When you guys need some spices, all right, I got this new route to the West Indies. I'm about to put you on. Wait, what the hell is this giant landmass doing here, idiot? Christopher Columbus.

By the way, Spain, you're welcome because you know we're not. I guess we're not here if Spain doesn't finance the whole trip. Ferdinand and Isabella had money to spare. The guy get a holiday for coming up short. Thought he was in fucking India.

He he landed in Virginia. Christopher Columbus ain't getting celebrated in this house. The ultimate rewarded for bad behavior. The ultimate rewarded for bad behavior. Holiday loser.

I got some Shefter regurgitation for you. I won't even call it. We got to talk about that. Packers not anticipating that Micah Parsons will return to practice this week. Still uncertainty about exactly when Parsons will return from his knee injury.

But it hopes to be this month, but doesn't look like you will have him for the Cowboys game this Sunday.

So, what's the deal with this Marvin Harrison trade? I would have had, I would have went ham on this one. I I was hoping the Giants were in on this also because I don't think a second and a late round pick is that much to give up on a guy who was a first rounder just a couple years ago. But it's also very possible that Marvin Harrison is just a bust. If his name was Marvin Smith.

I don't think it moves the needle at all, but because it's Marvin Harrison's kid, and the last name I don't I I I would argue that from a different way. If he went to like if it was Marvin Harrison, but even went to like Penn State, I I think these Ohio State guys know how to play receiver. They do, but Arizona it's behind Michael Wilson and I guess Trey McBride, who's a glorified receiver. Um, but behind those two guys, it's not like they're crawling with depth. Who who who outside of those two guys are scaring you?

That they don't feel like use help. Just in watching and I don't know. It just feels like they. It feels like they wanted. They wanted.

They didn't want him to begin with.

So they they they weren't targeting him. He was barely. He was playing like one third of the snaps. Yeah, but but that then why take him? Why take him if that's well?

Now this is under the the Mike Lefleur era, so maybe he didn't. Want him, and if you're going to trade guys, trade him to us, brother to brother. Even though, no, I think your receiver room is pretty good right now. I was trying to get on that Matt Golden trade, uh, train for a while, man. Nobody was biting.

I think people saw the potential there.

So Schefter, though, on Saturday morning reported there's going to be a trade, and then didn't report who the trade was going to be. Two biggest engagement bait, and everybody fell for it. Everybody fell for. I saw you. You you called it out in real time, like I did.

I've seen more backlash. More people saying, "Whoa, whoa, whoa! This guy's involved in prediction markets. What are we doing?" Yeah, because now what happens? Everyone starts running to poly market and calcium.

Like, oh, he's going to the Forty Niners. He's going to the Colts. He's going to the Texans. And these guys know where they're going. Like, there's you.

You can't make that announcement. You know, half ass. Because now you have a bunch of people that fucking threw their money away, and the only people who are getting rich are the people who own these books. Have you learned anything about this? Tom says, "Wild, if true that the Texans made the Harrison Jr.

trade contingent on beating the Titans, that would be absolutely shocking. If that's true, I don't know that I heard. I haven't seen that. I haven't heard that." I've heard. I've I've been getting rumblings the entire time.

It was always going to be the Houston Texans because you have have you even getting rumblings? I I I got people. I know people. I was a national producer. Did did the Sabres get back on the board?

Or you just playing two one Sabers? Light the lamp. Light the lamp. Light the lamp. Light the lamp.

But um, I mean. I get it, but like, I, I, when's the last time you've heard that? Like, if like, hey, hey, we'll we'll take your guy, but we need to make sure that we can beat the Titans first, because if we lose, then we're going to start selling too. The only thing I see here is, pardon my take, speculated. That maybe this is what happened, but does that one does one in four and zero to five really change the trajectory of your season?

When I'm sorry, I think the Jaguars are a pretty good team that no one gives a shit about. Therefore, let me tell you this: I'll answer that question by telling you this. In the one fantasy football league I care about, I was aiming for one in four, and I'm zero to five for the first time. Unbelievable. I uh I am I'm gonna be four and one because I am the first person in my league to score 200 points in this week, and I and I had Drake May on my bench.

That's how good my team was. Drake May had five total touchdowns yesterday, and he was on my bench. Um, that being said, I should be five and zero. I lost last week by one fucking point because Atlanta refuses to throw to Drake London. It's it's Bijan Robinson, like that.

The play, the entire offensive playbook for the Falcons is literally a picture of Bijan Robinson with a fucking arrow pointing to him. It's like Mike Brown's Cavaliers playbook, where it's just a picture of LeBron. They're like, run the play, and it points to LeBron slash Bijan. Run the play. There's somebody in the comments that I don't think they're here anymore, and I don't quite understand what they were talking about.

Yoshi eight one twelve. I saw that earlier. I don't know what he was referring to. And here are the comments. And it's Yoshi, by the way.

That's you know that's Yoshi from Mario. I know it's Yoshi, but the name isn't Yoshi on the thing.

Well, oh yeah, it says Yoshi. You guys are villains. Yeah, wait and go knock down a Bears coach and dissing on Mike Ditka. He's on the wrong stream because I mean we never once talked about Ditka. As an Eagles fan, you are frauds.

You guys are complete scripted.

So what it looks like is the on the wrong stream. It looks like the Russian bot farms are back as well. He he's he's completely on the wrong stream. I do like the the profile picture he has. Yoshi was one of my favorite characters growing up.

Oh, we have a lineup release for the Brewers and Dodgers today. All right, let me go wipe my ass as you go ahead and get that information. The Dodgers are going to go: Mookie, Freeman, Teoscar Hernandez, Shohei Otani, Will Smith, Max Muncie, Pahes Tucker, and Edman.

So we're going right, left, right, left, right, left, right, left. Switch. And that is against Logan Henderson. The Brewers are up against Yamamoto, who they did touch up last season in the regular season, but not since then. Churio, Tereng, Contreras, Bowers is at first.

Yelich is back in as the designated hitter. Mitchell Pratt, Frelicks out in right this time, and then David Hamilton. At third, Chirio, Tereng, Contreras, Bowers, Yelich, Mitchell, Pratt, Frelick, and Hamilton. That game will be at four o'clock, Milwaukee time, and we will have post game after. The GLP-1 pills you've been hearing about are on row.

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Um, I like this the biggest thing that's ever happened in my life, and you don't give a shit at all. Yeah. Oh, you guys touched up Scooble, and that's uh great for you. Uh, listen, once the Cubs predictably got swept by the Padres, I was going to check out, and I did. Um, left field bleachers.

This is MC. Left field bleachers started bear still suck chant, and they got about two lines in, and the bleachers drowned out with a "Let's go Brewers" chant. Leaders of the bleachers were having none of it. That at Am Fam, good for you guys taking the high road, but you should absolutely take every single Bears fan and drag them through the coals. They deserve it.

I'm from Chicago. I'm telling you, whip their ass. Get your belts and whip them. They go, they go. Oh, you beat a backup quarterback, brother!

Look at who's been your thrower for the last seventy years. How many non-backup quarterbacks have you even started? Your old franchise's backup quarterbacks. Caleb Williams throws two nice passes at the buzzer, and all of a sudden he's the greatest quarterback ever. I mean, he's he's the greatest quarterback that they've ever had.

Because this is a franchise completely devoid of quarterback play. Another one from MC. Why does everyone hate Milwaukee so much? Did you see people complaining that Abner Uribe was celebrating getting out of the sixth inning? Yeah, I did.

I don't get it. Everyone hates us. We get it. We suck. We're garbage.

Fucking is so annoying.

Well, as long as you guys know that you suck and you are garbage, and and we. Are the casual fans all all on the Dodgers? Like is that what this is? No, I think it was a Dodgers guy bitching. But we we we should embrace that everyone hates us.

Instead, we still try to get everyone to like us. Yeah, like hey, we're doing it the right way.

Now, fucking be the villain. Ben says, celebrate nothing. It's a regular fucking day. I'm with Ben. I completely forgot.

I'm going to the gym later. It's a regular Monday. Bart, if it weren't for Columbus, you wouldn't be here, and the natives would have your head on a spike and take your children as slaves. Jesus, is that true? No, we we'd probably be brown.

I think we'd still be here. We would. I would just. I would just be. Oh, I would be a different version of brown.

Instead of being Puerto Rican, I'd be. You know, what is a tribe? I'd be a Navajo. We'd all be Christopher Columbus ain't getting celebrated in this house. The ultimate reward for bad behavior, load of garbage.

Nick says you have almost fully transitioned, Bart. What are your current pronouns? They and them. I'm a he him kind of guy. I don't need a they in my house.

The news is the Texans had an agreement, but wanted to make sure they beat the Titans first. I mean, I guess I get it too, but at the same time, if you're Arizona, like no one else could beat that deal that you had to wait in order to see what was gonna the outcome of that game. No one can beat a second round pick. I don't know what you guys are up to. Mr.

Positive says, "Go Brewers, Boom Shakalaka." Well, all right, Dodgers in five. If Greg said it, Rick Hamill says, "Does Tits McGee send those scorebooks to the newspapers via Pony Express? Can you think of a more worthless thing to do? A lot of the country last night was introduced to front row Amy." Ah yes, yes. Her and her act, her rack that doesn't range age.

Rather, she sits in the front row and cleavage is shown. Yeah, got a nice set. Hoo hoo's. The cleavage, bra, cleavage is the word. Um, and she keeps score with the book.

Which doesn't shouldn't that turn? Isn't that something that turns on people? Women taking score of the book. Ah, yes. For I think men secretly want to fuck other men because they really love chicks that are into sports.

And if you get a chick that is sitting at a baseball game front row, actually scoring the game, that is like the creme de la creme. It doesn't matter that she's a a Milwaukee Seven. Uh, it it's just wow. She is scoring the game. She's always there.

You know, it's a quality rack. She's all of a sudden a she's an eleven. Is that that that your theory? I think men secretly want to bang men because, oh man, you know my girlfriend is so cool. She watches football with me.

You know, we'll sit on the couch and drink a beer. But. But men are disgusting, so why would we want to fuck men? Women are absolutely the fairest sex. But if you can get a woman with men tendencies, oh, you won, you made it.

I, I, I never, I've never dated anyone that was into sports, ever. My wife could not give one iota. Of caring to the world when it comes to sports, she has become a sports fan because of me.

So I have actually got the American dream. I I found me a very pretty woman who seemingly was into me and gave me physical affection, who did not care about sports. And then I molded this clay into like what you want out of guy. She makes a shit ton of money, which is the only reason that I can do this stream. Ah, she now likes sports, and she likes my teams.

Same, and you know, I, I, I still get to have physical interactions with her, and she's a woman, not a man.

So, um, yeah, I win, but she didn't care about sports beforehand. My wife, my wife, my wife enjoyed watching the Packers. Until she started watching them with me, but I used to watch. Like I used to, I used to like. I was so obsessed because I did a Packer post game show yesterday.

Sure, and I watched the game, and then I went and talked about it. But when I was doing mornings here. I took notes. I made sure to reali to learn your job. Yeah, but I didn't need to do all.

I didn't need to make it a miserable time for the people watching the game with me. She's into the playoff run, though. I mean, that's good. Good, and so is our kid. And that is a great, and still a great hat that you have on.

Awesome. Thanks. Um, he stayed up for most of the game last night. The game's at four. I signed him up for some soccer thing at five tonight.

He's still gonna go. I'm gonna make him go, but I'm not going. Making somebody pick him up, please. Yeah, I can't miss this game. The right move.

No, you can't. I can't miss this game. Let me swing around the NFL here.

Some of the other things that I haven't really gotten into at all with the busy day that we had yesterday. Um, I didn't see maybe as much of some of these other games. Vikings Saints. I think I saw one play, but they stay undefeated. Yeah, they put Chuck into a blender.

There's nothing more. Sirianni bone that one in London. Oh, such a good feeling. I've been on the side of 63 yard Jake Elliott field goals to end my uh and my day. Would have lost, man.

It's so great that Cam Little was able to do the same thing too. More deserving city than us. Enjoy that Philadelphia. The Jets beat the Browns. What happened there?

I didn't see any of that. Shitty, ugly game. Both teams didn't want to win it. It was rainy in in the Northeast, so yeah, we it was like a mini nor'easter. That rain was actually coming down a lot.

I think the Browns had an opportunity to win it. I just saw at the end the Jets scored late, and that was it. But it was like a low-scoring, ugly game. The Chargers are 0 and five. Yeah, I.

The only reason I don't think the only reason you don't fire Jim Harbaugh is because you can't elevate Mike McDaniel to be your interim head coach. I think you ride it out to the wheels fall off and everybody's gone at the end of the year. Justin Herbert. I'm glad people are starting to say what I've been saying for the last three to four years. Justin Herbert is not the guy.

He is not it. No, he's he put the ball on the ground twice yesterday. He completely fucking sold that game. I saw an interception he made where it looked like he wasn't even aware that there was a defense on the field, much less yeah, a defender that picked it off. He's he's not good.

He's not good. And what Mike McDaniel's wants to do, Justin Herbert is not the type of quarterback for that. The Niners are five and zero, and probably, probably the real. I mean, they're the real deal. Yeah, it's it's them, Kansas City, and everybody else.

Well, Vikings are five and zero. Ravens one with that's that's such a fake five and zero. It's every time the Vikings are five and zero, it's always fake. Dude, it's they're they're riding on their defense, but. Kyler Murray, Carson Wentz, these are your quarterbacks.

You traded J.J. McCarthy. Like it is a this is the fakest five and O I've seen in a while.

Well, here's what Minnesota has next: Colts at Lions, Bills at Packers, Forty Niners. They split those games. They lose to the they'll beat the Colts. They lose to the Lions. Packers is in Green Bay, and they already beat us, so we'll probably split.

Yeah, you split that one. And I and then Buffalo, I think beats them. Niners. That's a Monday night game, and then the Niners is a Sunday night game. Yeah, that's that's two and two.

If I ever saw it.

Well, I said five games, but your math is sure. Your math is checks out. Rams Bills tonight, which I'll be able to watch a little bit after the Brewer game. Defense will be optional. Take the over.

MC says, "Saw a few families in the bleachers at the Brewer game where the parents were wearing Brewers gear and their kids were wearing Otani jerseys. Is that failed parenting or is that just okay?" I'm gonna defer to you, but I have an answer as well. I'm gonna say it's okay. Ooh, I'm gonna say that the fact that they got Otani jerseys means they're into baseball. That's good.

Um, I probably would have told my kid. We're not wearing that to the game. We're rooting for the Brewers, but if they push, if you push back even a little bit, I'd say fine. Yeah, yeah, that, and that's why I say it's failed parenting. Um, you're you're not there to be your child's friend.

You're you're there to be their parent. You're supposed to lead them into their future. You are the stewards of the next generation, and as such, by allowing your children to wear apparel of the not only. A different team, but literally the opposing team, you have failed as a parent. My wife and I are on complete lockstep when it comes to raising our children with sports.

They follow our teams. In this household, we are a Giants team. That is first and foremost when it comes to football. Everything else, be damned. My wife's a Mets fan.

I'm a Cubs fan. If our kids wanna wanna be Mets fans because of her, whatever reason, or whatever, I don't give a shit. But no, no, no. Your job as a parent is to teach your kids.

So you let them know where Dodgers shit. You taught them wrong. These kids, where, where, where are they coming anyway? I don't know. When's my next source of employment coming?

Because that's what's holding everything up.

Now employment comes and goes. By the way, if you, if you tell my wife that if you make a kid tonight, do you know what the world's gonna look like in ten months? We're prepared for AI disasters, bro. No one's gonna have jobs. Oh well, listen.

As long as a robot can help me raise this thing, I'm I'm fine with it. Because it's gonna take over, you know. Like Ken Brokman thought, the ants were gonna take over and enslave us. I can help AI round up, uh, you know, humans and have them toil in underground sugar cubes. I have a liquid review.

I don't hate this Lacroix. Hmm. I think for me, I'm drinking it raw, dog, and by that I mean not in a fridge. Not, not, yeah. It's it's and it's not mixed with anything either.

So Lacroix is everything. Liquid Death is not. It's the same product. Yeah. Well, Liquid Death like markets itself as badass.

Like ah, Liquid Death. Same product, but it's like yeah. If you see me at the gym. Sucking down some liquid debt, you're like that motherfucker is so cool. Yeah, but if you see him at the gym drinking a Lacroix, I'm like, oh, he definitely bangs guys.

And by bangs guys, I mean gets reamed by him. You are the boss. Very prevalent on your mind today, there, buddy. It must be the holiday. No, I think what happened was this is the kind of stuff that happens when your football team dies.

If we get a loss next week, I'm really going to be on some. Or right? I am a. I think I'm a Luke. I think I'm a room temperature kind of drinker.

I'm gonna go have a Coke after this because you know I actually have soda in my house. A lot of times, what I would do when I would make a drink, a mixed drink, is I would pour a drink, and then I'd let the we call them ice melters because I'd pour a drink, and I would have a drink until the ice would melt, and then I would just chug it. I'm a chugger. I uh, I chuck beer. I don't.

I don't think beer is meant to be enjoyed. I had a beer yesterday. An athletic beer. Non-alcoholic. You know what?

And I've been seeing that company because I've been yeah. If anybody knows, I've been doing these races and not racists, by the way. Like races, like race plural.

So I've been doing half marathons and high rocks and other shit. That at non- that non-alcoholic beer has been promoting itself everywhere.

Well, did you see in Spider-Man, Tom Holland's bureau is on the shelf of the grocery store he shops at. Is that right? Yeah, he put his own beer in Spider Man.

So, Biro is MCU canon. How about that? Hey, Vision Quest. Yeah, that's what tomorrow or tonight, Wednesday, two of them. Ah, I can't wait.

It does look. It looks so good. And I guess there's like a lot of, if not connectivity, like at least. Acknowledgements and shoutouts that the rest of the MCU exists. Yes, so they're they're actually positioning this like this is the conclusion of the trilogy that has been Wandavision and Agatha.

Now, obviously, the Wandavision correlation it's it's direct, it's right on the nose. I want to see how Agatha, other than the two Maximoff kids, I want to see how that series ties. Probably just the kids. Probably just Billy and Tommy. This is my analogy last night because I was talking about how Craig Counsell said he was born a brewer and did all those commercials, but now we have Christian Yelich, who really, even though he didn't get here until when fifteen or whatever, yeah, he has embraced being a brewer.

Like when you watch your sports teams, like if you're watching the Giants, you've been a Giants fan forever. These guys on the Giants have only been Giants fans since they became a Giant, right? You know, you as a fan have more equity. It's their life, but you have more equity in the result. They want to win because they want to win.

Correct. They don't need the Giants to win. They want to win, and they're on the Giants.

So what I said about Yelich was because he is so Brewer. He he he is carrying the flame, as you if you will. And I feel like when Council left, his body died, and then his soul got sucked into Billy Maximov's body in the car. Who is Christian Yelich? It's kind of a niche or a niche, whatever.

Oh well, it's really gonna hurt when Christian Yelich is eventually a fucking Cincinnati Red. No, no, no! Yelich ain't no going nowhere. When the Brewers draw that line in the sand, and they need that roster spot, and Yelich still wants to play, Yelich is going to be Yelich is going to Colorado Rockies, or yeah, he'll be on he'll be on Murphy's staff. Yelich hurt.

Yelich is here to stay, man. When you see Yelich as a Ranger. You're gonna be like, damn, missed that guy. It actually won't hurt because, for as much as like Yelich is a Brewer, like we have people, we we have actually players that are good, and you know we don't need your like one home run every twenty five games. Yeah, and if Yelich wouldn't played somewhere else, I don't think it.

Like he is the star of the Brewers for the last decade. But hey, listen. I lived in a world where Anthony Rizzo was, you know, on the Yankees.

So Yelich going somewhere else and becoming a, you know, a Padres, not out of the question. What happened there? I thought for sure the Cubs were going to win another one. Ah, yeah. Every everyone and their mothers did, except for Jed Hoyer apparently, because um he could not wait to break it down.

He he could not wait to get rid of that core. Why? I I don't understand it. I guess I he he Schwarber's like the best hitter in baseball. He was on that team ten years ago.

Schwarber was the the best hitter that the Cubs had, and they walked. He walked for nothing. Uh, Javier Baez, yes, you could the the you know the bonehead flashy you know mistakes would would be there, but Javier Baez was an exciting player. Fans loved them. They're like, we gotta fucking trade him to the Mets.

Although thank God because he got PCA out of that.

So the name Pete will always haunt the Mets, whether it's Alonso or Crow Armstrong. But Chris Bryant was breaking down once he got that triple crown. They were like, "All right, let's let's fucking move on from him." And Rizzo, I guess, was just like kind of like the last guy standing. I think I don't know if it was a matter of Rizzo didn't want to be here anymore, or they wanted to give him a chance to win somewhere else because he had a small chance to win with the Yankees. But you know, the Yankees are the Yankees right now.

So um yeah they they they I don't know what it was I I think it's just I think they saw the writing with the wall wall with Chris Bryant getting hurt and they're like fuck it let's just see if we can just get ahead of his rebuild and you know the Cubs haven't gone to the depths of despair they haven't been the last place team in in quite some time so I guess in that aspect you're working but you're you're not getting I would say though I would say as a Cubs fan. What's happening is worse. You took the Brewers manager and can't beat him. I'm extremely disappointed. I'd rather be taking last every time.

I'm I've been extremely disappointed the last couple of years, and I I'm firmly convinced this team will not be taken seriously while while Carter Hawkins and Jed Hoyer are managing your front office. Mitch says the captain thing was a masterstroke by Murphy. It got Christian more involved, and it probably made fans appreciate him more because sure he finally hit his first postseason RBI since 2018. We probably would have been booing him, but he's got the captain on his chest, so we're like, nah, you're good. One more note: the the Badgers will be on Big Ten Saturday night on NBC back to back weeks.

They've got UCLA this week, and then it was just announced. USC will be the NBC game the week after that.

So some breaking schedule news. Go Badgers. Go Badgers. Carlos, always good to see you. Congrats on your tie.

Yes, can't wait for an actual decision next week, whether it's a win or a loss. But go Giants. The next time we do this show, I'm doing. We will know.

Well, no, we could be doing this show the morning of Game Seven. You better hope there's not a Game Seven. You will not be able to get water through your ass of how tight it is. If there's a game seven, I think I, for one, root chaos on. I'm full on hate watching.

So, give me a scintillating seven game series. Just between us two, Carlos, I think they're going to get it done. I unfortunately believe so as well. I hate the following three words. I'm going to say, although one of them is a letter.

No, no, it's a word. It's two letters in it. Brewers are a. They're a team of destiny. I think this is it.

Team of destiny's three words.

Okay, yeah, those are six. No, the the Brewers are. I think they're a team of destiny. I think they get it done.

Now, the Rays are also a team of destiny. They have Freddie. What would be worse? And I ask you, like, just you know, let's put the bad juju out there because you know maybe you guys are counteract that and win the whole fucking thing. But what's worse, losing to the unimaginable payroll of the Dodgers, where you have an all star in every position, or losing to your AL contemporaries in the Rays, where they do basically what you fucking do.

Um, I want to be in the World Series.

Okay, so losing to the so losing to the Brewers, I mean, losing to the Dodgers would be worse. Yeah. Okay. I want to be in World Series. If we're if we're not gonna win it, I still want to.

Yeah, you want to get experience. No, I I get that, and I and I'm with you. I think if you were a Brewers fan, you want to get there. You take, uh, because you know. I just think of you.

Look at the Buffalo Bills fans. They they lost four Super Bowls. They got to four Super Bowls. They got four AFC championships. You guys can get one NL pennant.

To start and let's see what happens. I I think you sign you sign. I don't want to keep going to World Series and losing for sure. You don't want to go to fucking four straight World Series or become like the Atlanta Braves, where you win your division like thirteen years and get one ring out of it. Yeah, I don't.

You mean like the Packers? Yeah. All right. I yeah. Listen, I think Brewers Rays would feed families, man.

But I'm sorry if that's the case. I love you. I'm I'm going all raise. I can't have my division win. Uh, rifle being a fucking champion.

Great to see. I got to make a soda run, so I never have to drink the shitty Lacroix ever again. Go get yourself some liquid depth too. Yeah, I don't know about that, Carlos. Thank you for your time, and thank you everybody for stopping into the Winklerverse.

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