Week 2 NFL Picks with Ryan Horvat

Coming down in three, two, and one. Good morning, everybody. Welcome to the Wigglerverse. I'm Bart Wiggler. We're joined today by Ryan Horvat.

Huh. I should have done this before. Do you have a fan on or something? Me? My air conditioner, can you hear that?

Yeah. Is it hot out there? No, shut it I'm gonna shut it down real quick. Yeah. Sorry, I don't use headphones.

I should use headphones. I don't know where to plug them in. All these other real podcasters have Roadcasters and all this stuff, and I don't even know what to buy. I took a screenshot of Mike Heller's setup. I was going to copy what he has.

I should probably do that. Oh, you know what it might be? Hold on. I gotta speak. Is it your computer?

Are you on like one of those Dells from Dude, get a Dell? With the big fucking My one works for Apple. I got a Mac. I know she's selling a deal on this laptop. Are you sure it's not like your setup?

Because what's funny is that this is still my setup from. I mean, I was in, I was. I think it's gone. I was going to say, I think it was the air conditioner. That thing was really blasting.

Yeah, what's weird is, though, when I used to do. But I'm the show from home. I would always ask my producers because on Friday nights, there's like a concert series right across the street. Yeah. And so I finally got them to agree.

Because I was driving into the studio to do the show by myself. Like the producer wasn't even there.

So I was just sitting there talking to myself. And then when I finally got them to agree to let me do the show from home. It was the Friday night concert series, and this band was like, you know, like drums are going and everything. And I'm like, oh shit, like, I'm, this is never gonna be allowed again. And they were like, no, we can't even hear it.

So I'm surprised that you heard the air conditioner.

Well, this is a Mac. Macs are great. This is not the Mac that I think your wife helped me get because I don't think I've ever told this story. I broke that Mac. Um I was watching a Trump speech and I punched my computer and the computer broke.

That's like when you're such a limb. I had a $1,000. That's why I'm voting for Republicans in the midterms because I need that money back. That's like when you see those videos and you're like, people can't really be that stupid. And I get it because, like, I've lost.

Money on games before as well, but like you see like a guy's team lose. And he's got like a 72-inch screen. And he just breaks it, and you're like, this can't be real. This is staged. Like, why are they just filming this right now?

That's what I imagined that situation looking like. You really punched your computer, your own computer? Yeah, he said something that pissed me off, and I punched my computer because I was watching it on my computer, so I punched him in the face. All right, you know what? I'm gonna be honest.

Remember when. The computer broke in the producer room. Yeah. Remember the story that I told everybody? I don't.

I said that, um Oh. I said that we uh In my defense, like nothing was going right. And nothing would work in the back. And I finally had just had enough. I said that the microphone that I would do the sports updates came down weirdly and hit the screen.

I just got mad one day and just.

Socked it. And then all of a sudden it just cracked. And I was like, oh shit. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. But I brought in a different screen to save the station, so that's why I feel comfortable telling that story.

And I've calmed down my anger a lot since, but man. That day. Remember when we had to do the commercial-free hour? During that. That was bullshit.

I think more people need to know about how bullshit that, even though we're going to go commercial-free here.

Well, I have some reads, but we're not We are broadcasting for an hour just off the top of our nuts. But back then it was that's bullshit. Everybody's like, you guys talked politics and COVID. Yeah, because we were the only radio. We wanted to play fucking air tech commercials.

We wanted to talk some. Brian heating and cooling. In fact, I would argue we talk more sports than anybody because not only did we cover the 90s Bulls with all these random people from Chicago, even though we were a Milwaukee, hey, have Bill Cartwright on. Why? People in Milwaukee don't care, but also.

I covered the Korean Baseball League. I was giving out KBO winners, the Lote Giants. The Doosan Bears. The Ducan. That was our squad, the Ducan Bears.

The KT Wiz. But there was no sports, and we didn't have commercials. That was our squad. I still have a baseball of the Doosan Bears. My brother bought me one.

Truly the worst of times. Remember the day. That we were supposed to go commercial-free up till 958.50, the hard out. And I broke for the hour at 95, 6.50.

Someone just tweeted: the Astros will prevail. The bats are not broken. The rings. I always think that, man. And I'm like, I'm like, baseball, people wouldn't know, but.

My first year doing the national show, like. There wasn't even commercials.

So they would just replay like the five minutes we had that promo. And it was like a thing on the Astros and then that song Astro's will prevail as broke. Speaking of accidents, you don't want any on the road. Did you know, Horvat, that crashes involving people driving and vulnerable users of the road are gonna happen the most in these early evening hours? You're so interested that you walked away.

But the Wisconsin Bike Fed and I, we've teamed up this month, as you know, just to remind people. If we can save. I don't know if we're going to save any lives. I saved a kid though, and I was thinking Wisconsin Bike Fed when I said, don't dart out in the road. At least look both ways.

And he's one of these kids that had the helmet on his handlebars. Because he did what I did. Yeah, you take the helmet, you ride it down the road, you get out of your parents' sight, you put it on your handlebars. I can ride a bike with no handlebars. God, some music's so bad.

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Check out more wisconsinbikefed.org. We're going to do our picks. We're going to start with a Thursday pick. We'll get the Packers pretty quickly here. I do just want to tell you that I'm playing under the weather.

I'm not going to. I'm not going to tell you. What meds I take? Yeah. But I take two different meds.

Okay? I've been open about it in the past, but let's just for today, I take two different meds, and I'm supposed to take 20. MGs of one med.

Okay. And then Like 20 MGs of another med. And the 20 MGs of one medium. I actually have in tens and tens and twenties. Mm.

That one's Lexapro. I take them exactly. I don't even know what any of the what does that one do? The anxiety one. Oh nice.

Fuck it, I'll just say. And then the other one is now Trexone that has opioid users do not want the itch. Is that for boners? That's for Well, I mean There were times this summer when I was drinking a fish tank of vodka every day.

So we're trying not to do that anymore. Gross. Yeah. So I'm taking these two different pills. And I was taking 40 of the anxiety one.

Thinking I was taking 20 of each. And so I get back on the other one. And now the side effects have come back.

So at 2 in the morning last night, I woke up in a deep sweat. And I just puked dominoes all over the toilet bowl. Tim, we don't have a thing, if we ever have a thing with dominoes. Go back and edit this out. Thanks, buddy.

Yeah, but I had dominoes twice last night. Once for dinner, which was good. I like the new dominoes, dom, my nose. And my kid likes it. It was a reward.

My wife was out of town, so we got pizza, of course.

So I puked abdominals at two in the morning.

So I feel like I kind of feel like shit, but. And now you know what's in my medicine cabinet.

So great. Tim, that too. Great start. Yeah. I really am excited for this game tonight.

The Winkler family is excited. My son, by the way, congrats to little boy Winkler, one and oh in his fantasy football career. Kyron Williams, his first official touchdown ever. Josh Allen. And we were looking in the draft.

And he was between like a running back and a wide receiver. And I said, why don't you take this wide receiver? Because then you can pair him up with your quarterback. That's always fun.

So we had the Josh Allen, DJ Moore combo. Or he did, he's wanna know. He's excited for that game tonight. Bills Lions. This is in Highmark, right, Highmark Stadium.

Uh, what is the spread, like four and a half at Pado? Uh, let me see. Currently, it is actually. Wow, you could get five and a half. For the The lines as dogs?

That's a lot. The Bills are five and a half point favorites everywhere, yeah. But it's the opening of Highmark, right? Yeah, it's the opening game there, and also a bad, bad travel spot here for Detroit on a short week, too. Where did Buffalo play last week?

The Bills last week beat, Jesus Christ, they beat who the hell did they play? Oh, losing my mind, the Texans. I had the Texans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They beat them 30 points.

I was going to say the Bears, but then I remember the Bears had 59 points. Everyone keeps telling me the Bears had the biggest thing that's ever happened. Yeah, I had my first losing week one. Everybody's always like, week one's tough. And I'm like, I love week one.

But man, I should have just bet all favorites. I took. I bet the Texans, even though I'm not in love with the Texans like everybody else is, just because of CJ Stroud, like you said last week, I hate having money on him. I just don't trust him. I like the defense, but I think the defense is a little overrated.

I had the Texans, they lose to the Bills. I had the Panthers, which looked great until the Bears decided to score 100 points. And then I had another, oh, I had the Bengals, which worked out great, but I had another loser. Oh. The Dolphins.

I wanted to believe in Malik. Never again. My Raiders survivor pick played well. He's they were the fourth highest picked team. I went Jags.

Wish I would have bet the Jags, too. That was an ass kicking. Oh, I bet the Steelers that ruled. Rodgers played pretty good, actually. Who was the fantasy guy you'd always have at 1250 that was pissed at callers?

Kevin Payne? Maybe Kevin Payne? I will like Kevin Payne was your show. Bill had Charchian, who I never liked, and then the big show had Kesnick, who was a complete asshole. Yeah.

He would like to hang up on me during the breaks and I'd have to call him back. I hated those segments as a producer more than anything. I was like, you know what my stance always was on that? If you really, some of the calls were so dumb. It's like.

If you have to call Fucking church. And ask him if you should start Jameson Williams or Devontae Adams. Should you be playing fantasy football? Isn't like the part, the fun part of playing fantasy football, like you're the manager, you're the owner. Why would I want some dork's advice?

And you know what I love? The fantasy football guys are never right. I love when I was in the betting industry, and like the fantasy guy, their picks are terrible. Like, you know, I'll have, I'm going to call it out. I had a really good first two weeks of college football.

I had Texas, which was awesome, and Michigan, but wasn't a great week for me last week. But we bounced back, and I'm open about it. The fantasy guys, always wrong. I always hated those segments. Always, you'd be like answering phone calls.

Oh, Mike and West Allis. Uh, you know, Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson, but that's what I mean, like. I don't know. I don't want to rip the fantasy guys. There's a lot of them that are really good.

But I just never really understood that segment. Yeah, that was. I don't think it was enjoyable to listen to. Yeah, like In the comments.

Some people like it. I got one buddy that just. All football season, he just Listens to every fucking second of that shit. What time's Kevin Payne on? Hey, can you get a Mike Evans or Devontae Adams?

Yeah, I just. Fuck that segment, in my opinion. I'd rather like tweet your questions to 1250 Fantasy, and then I like never looked at those. Those are just in case we didn't have phone calls, by the by. I always loved it when there was no calls and you would have to make something up for the fantasy guy.

Yeah, we just asked some questions about your team. Yeah, that's what I mean. What a terrible segment. Like, who cares about anybody else's fantasy football team? There should just be a segment.

Here would have been a better way to do it. Rather than everybody getting in their phone calls, you have Kevin Payne on, and he says, You know, here's the top quarterbacks this week. Aaron Rodgers is facing the Jags, blah, blah, blah. Here's some sleepers. Here's some guys to stay away from.

Go through all the positions rather than like. answering all these obvious questions just so people could hear their own voice on the radio. This is episode number 744. Jesus. We I know we're spin you've probably been on like half of'em.

We're spinning our way to 777.

So, lucky number 77 is brought to you by Potawatomi. We're going to have, I'm going to. The plan is to do a live broadcast on 777. They have a little podcast room, but I don't want to just go take my laptop to the podcast room. I want to do something else.

We're also going to start a contest where you can. Watch Heat Bucks with us November 18th. Us being me and Tim Shea. I'd rather watch Heat 2 with you and Tim Shea. But they're giving us food and beverage credit.

Gotcha.

Now, if you want to place a bet, you're going to have to do that on your own. Accord. Armin jumps in. He's a member of the Winklerverse. Hell yeah.

Agree with Horvey, nothing is worse than hearing someone else talk about their fantasy team. I wake up every morning and I listen to Armin. And Bill and the boys, I I love that show. It's the only show I listened to in Wisconsin. Armin, just because you just commented.

I will be in touch for next Wednesday. I like to do guests on Wednesdays. Mondays are. Carlos, Tuesdays are Wednesdays are guest. Thursdays are Horvey.

And Fridays are going to be just a free-for-all live.

So tomorrow morning. Freestyle Friday, you should call it. Yeah, I think that's original enough. I used to have that as a segment. People have to call in with wraps, though, about their teams.

We're 15 minutes in, we've given zero picks.

Well, we've given good life advice. You are helping people. I actually had a buddy who was like, he was like, before I listened to the podcast, I was just going to let my kid just run around in the street. And then Bart saved his life. Yeah, with the bike.

So, you save somebody both physically and metaphorically when you think about it. My buddy was just going to let his kid become roadkill, as you called it. What did you say, roadkill? One Right? Uh sure.

Yeah. I like the bills. Oh, we're going to talk about tonight's game. Yeah, yeah, right, right, right.

So the Bills are five and a half point favorites. Total in the game. Wow. It opened at 52 and a half. It's up to 55.

I feel like this is the week that everybody's going to have all these like anytime touchdown parlays because everybody, all the stars scored. Answer. I like that. I like that a lot. M Shark says, does Horvot have an infinity stone around his neck?

I do. I control actually the entire world with this. Is that the time stone? Mm-mm. But uh Who'd you kill?

Do you want me to answer that on this broadcast? No, we'll save that for Patreon. I've never killed anything. Not even, I don't kill living creatures. Even If there's a bug.

And my wife's like, can you kill it? I gently pick it up and I just place it back into the wild. Oh, I was going to say something of importance, though. Last week was awesome for fantasy. For anytime touchdown props, I was just like these stupid parlays.

Everybody was scoring and scoring two touchdowns and whatnot. I feel like this week, Under city. Yeah. You know what I mean?

So I'm not going to bet the under in this game. And I'm not gonna bet the full side. Because this is a bad spot for the Lions. But as I've talked about all summer, I'm really high on the Lions. I got them.

Going to the Super Bowl, representing the NFC. Wasn't all that impressed week one, but I also think that the Saints were a little undervalued. I like the Saints to win the South. Um, they were really good down the stretch, like the last four or five weeks of the season. Once they started playing, uh, Chuck, if I had to bet the game, if you gave me like a free.

$100, $200 here, I would probably only bet the Bills, but I did bet the Lions in the first half. Three and a half. I like the Lions in the first half. It is minus 115 right now, but I played that Lions. And uh But I'll pick bills here.

You know, open a new stadium. It's a big deal. I like the Joe Brady thing. Joe Brady, Sean McDermott. Might be like a Pat Murphy Craig Council thing where it's like There's a good culture there.

But the guy in charge. Like, is blocking it. And you need him to go so that the culture can go through. And when Joe Brady's taking his shirt off right away in week one, You know, and the team gets pumped up. That's what you need.

The coach has to make decisions, coach has to pick the roster, coach has to game plan. The coach needs to be like, How do you want your team? to perform. They're gonna perform in the mold of you. Yeah, so I like just after week one, I like the results so far.

Me too. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't the sexiest hire, obviously. Like, oh, they're just going Joe Brady, right? Like,. If it was the year before and they brought in Ben Johnson with Josh Allen, everybody would be all excited.

But the offense hasn't really been the issue. The problem with the Bills, man, has just been bad luck, it's hard to win in the playoffs. It's hard to win Super Bowls. But I do I like them this year. I know a lot of people were like taking stabs for whatever reason on the Bills to miss the playoffs.

And I'll admit I did that a couple of years ago when Rodgers went to the Jets and then died on the second play of the season. But I don't understand why you would do that this year because the Dolphins are nonsense. The Jets are going to be better than a lot of people expect, like we'll talk about. But I think the Patriots take a step back, especially now. Like A.J.

Brown's already hurt. Frabel had a really weird offseason. I think Drake May is overrated. And I think they're shaky as fuck, dude. Like Will Campbell just is not a tackle.

You probably got to move him to guard. I think the defense will probably take a step back. But I just, I don't get the Bills hate this year. Just, I feel like it's like when the Packers had Rodgers, and even now with Jordan Love, I mean, but. They're not as good, obviously, but like every year with you're like, as Rogers stays healthy, they're going to win the North.

And I think that's the Bills.

So I would only bet them tonight, but I love the Lions in the first half. I kind of like a money line stab. I think they might be leading at the half. I think they're going to come out. I need to share this piece of audio.

I said I was never gonna shit on other radio shows again, but Oh no. This is from the Buffalo affiliate. I think it's the Bills. Oh, I like those guys. Jeremy and Joe?

J and J, I call them. I don't know how this one guy is not related to Andrew Filiponi. If he's not, nobody is. That's a radio. Reference.

Listen to how they listen. They ruin this fucking phone call. This is a great phone call. And they fucking ruin it.

Okay. Here's the phone call from WGR. We should be able to find it. Scotty in East Concord. Hey, Scotty.

Yeah, historic day, guys. Summer, the last caller, just said it. I mean, a lot went into building this place. I'm about to go pick up my brother-in-law. I'm sorry, my ex.

Brother-in-law from the airport. First of all. He's picking up his ex-brother-in-law. Cut him off immediately and dive into that. Why?

Why are you hanging out with your ex-brother-in-law? I need to know the story. Maybe they're still homies. And I need to know the story. This guy's calling in to give a Bills take that's probably just regurgitated from the shit they said.

Who gives a fuck?

Okay, go on. Dig for gold. The Carolinas, we got Family coming in. You know, for so many weeks, we heard these. complaints.

Right, about everything, about obstructed view. I mean, think of all the laborers that went into building it. Obstructed view. I mean, half the guys. complaining about this, probably sitting around with an obstructed view of their own dick and balls.

Okay. Where's the button? Come on. We're good. We're good.

I got it. Yeah. You c okay, so this is maybe more of a radio complaint.

Well, they did ruin the call. It's 2026. If a guy in the morning show can't say dick and balls. I remember like. When we were doing the the night show, it was a month and a half after.

Some lady. Or some guy may have said shit. in a phone call. Yeah. He said, I didn't hear it.

Whatever. They're like some lady complained and fucking Tennessee, you got to go find this and do what with it? What do we?

So we had to look through the audio. We found it, lied that we couldn't find it. But McAfee is on lunchtime on ESPN TV saying, shit, fuck bitch. Bang. Yeah.

I know. And we can't have a caller say the word shit under his breath. Fuck the FCC. FCC, man. No.

FCC, they won't let me be. I uh I remember some of the most fun that I ever had was when we did that.

Okay. Get heavy. Come on, your tits. About to get ready. What's the I'm trying to do, Eminem?

I like, I always like to see. I always like doing the late-night post-game shows with Tim and Billy back in the day. And you get all the. Like, especially on those West Coast trips where the brewers would go in like extra innings and shit, we'd be in the studio till like 3, 4 a.m. You'd get some.

Insane calls. From some awesome people.

Some of them did not sound like Tim Shea.

Someone said that sounded like Tim Shea. That did sound like Tim. It did. I like the Bills again. I like the Bills.

Lions first half, plus three and a half, but for picking purposes, Bills. All right, let's talk about what matters here. You know, the Packers opened his five and a half point favorites. The Jets have taken some money. This is down to three and a half.

The total in the game, 44.5. In fact, The jets There were some threes out there. Like, they got bet all the way to three. It's all three and a half. That's what Pato has right now.

So I don't like calling for people's jobs. I just don't, you know, except for like Brian Goudekins, because I don't think he's very good at this job. Although I love the Micah Parsons trade. I'm okay with Goody. But the offensive line is the offensive line is so bad that that's like Disqualifying.

How are you? You're okay with Goody because you're a Rodgers hater. I'm okay with Goody because he went to lacrosse. See, here's why I'm not okay. I like, okay, again, like I like the Micah Parsons trade, don't get me wrong, and some of the free agency moves in the last, you know, since he's taken over.

My issue, though, is I just don't think he's very good at evaluating college talent, especially on the offensive line. And like some of these contracts that he's given out have been. Terrible man. I'm also okay with Goody because his aunt is best friends with my mother-in-law. Aaron Banks.

Oh, really? Terrible. Like, you can't defend that. Um I just This team I I What I'm trying to say here is I didn't want to call for LaFleur's head. But I think, like, it's probably time after this season if they don't at least.

Reach the NFC championship game. I'm not even. If they don't go to the playoffs, I'm January 6thing on January 6th. I won't even, I'll say, like, honestly, they got to win a playoff game. Because I'm calling this year a little bit of a wash, even though I shouldn't.

Unless Micah comes back and he's like the first guy ever to come back from a knee injury and be himself. You know, like Hutchinson was good last year for the Lions, but I think he's going to be much better this year. It's like I just, I feel like this team, every year it's the same, like that game. How the hell do you lose by 17 points? When you outgain your opponent, By nearly two hundred yards, man.

And you lose the Carson Wentz in the year 2026. It's because you were penalized, and I know some of them were bullshit, like everybody was complaining on Twitter, especially when you got like four penalties in a row. But when you have double-digit penalties, man, week one. That means your team has no discipline. And that falls on coaching.

And again, I just don't think that they have like any toughness. The Packers for the last couple of years, it's like... They'll hit you late. They'll talk a bunch of shit, like, especially the secondary. When you airmail a wide receiver and the ball goes into the stands, they'll be doing their sword shit.

But like, I don't, the toughness doesn't translate to the field. Like, like, we talked about with you and Carlos. It's like The teams that win the Super Bowl every year are some bad motherfuckers. The Eagles, when they want it, they want it with that pass rush. The Giants, like the reason Green Bay loses every year, it's the same story.

It's never the quarterback play. Like if you blame Jordan Love, that's lazy. If you blamed Rodgers and say Rogers only had one Super Bowl, that's lazy. He had some shitty performances, but if you look at the overall numbers in the playoffs, Rogers has a QB rating over 100. I don't even think he's thrown 12.

He's got like 13 picks to 50-something touchdowns or something like that. The problem has always been the defense, and they always lose to the tougher teams: the 49ers teams with Patrick Willis, the Kaepernick teams. Like they weren't more talented, they were tougher. The Seahawks teams, the Legion of Boom teams. Tougher and the coaching staff, always dumb as well.

You know what I mean?

Like the Eagles, they just lost to them. I mean, even when the Chiefs were winning Super Bowls, Mahomes was awesome and the offense was awesome, but the Spagnola defense was awesome. Chris Jones was awesome. The the Packers just don't have enough bad motherfuckers and they're not tough. And that falls on the coach, man.

You look at LaFleur at the podium, and he looks like I do after a game, like, he looks like he wants to cry. I always ripped Dan Campbell and like the rah-rah guys. But I feel like... The offense is solid. Minus the offensive line.

Ground game will get going once they could run block, and the pass game will get going once they could pass protect. But the issue every year is never the offense, it's the defense.

So, usually, I want an offensive-minded head coach. I want the next Ben Johnson or LaFleur at the time.

Next. I think you got to go defensive-minded head coach. Look what the Seahawks did. Mike McDonald, get a hot shot OC, a guy that eventually wants to be. you know, a Kellen Moore, Ben Johnson type that wants to be the next big head coach.

And try to win with, like, get tough, man. Because again, or else Jordan Love's gonna end up with zero Super Bowls or one, and he's good enough to win a Super Bowl. He needs to be better than he was week one. I thought he played good, but he could be better. Again, I know he's not the most athletic.

Well, Jordan Love is good, but he's not good enough. He's not right. Mask LeFleur's mistakes. Yeah, he's not right. He's not good enough to do that.

Yeah, you can't do it. Yeah, but I do think like if you don't win a playoff game, it's time to move on from LaFleur. And he's been so fucking bad, dude. He's done bad. I don't like calling for people's jobs and I like them.

But like, you know, at the end of the day... It's a tough business, just like radio. And I think it's probably time to move on.

Now, watch. Maybe they rattle off 14 straight wins and we look like idiots. And I hope that's the case. And then people could be like fucking idiots. I'm fine with that, just like I'm fine with people calling me out about Jordan Love.

But like Yeah, this, I just, I don't, the offensive line's a mess. You're going to get Jordan Love killed. Not enough talent in the secondary. If a guy does go down like Micah, you gotta have like other pass rushers in this league. And you got to be tough in the NFL.

And the Packers are just like a bunch of pussies every year. Every year, dude, in the playoffs, they get their asses beat by a tougher team. And then you got Jimmy Garoppolo walking off the field in Lambeau Field saying, fuck the Packers, fuck the Packers, and shit like that a couple of years ago when they lose that cold weather game. They lost that game because of special teams. And the Niners had like 100 yards of total offense, but.

They were better motherfuckers at the end of the day. They were tougher than the Packers. That that's what I think the issue is in that locker room, though. Mm-hmm.

Somebody meet head comment of the day, but I'm serious. I think they got to get like a like a head coach with some balls. Yeah, well, am I points on him of are very public and clear and I want them to be gone ASAP. I think the Packers, the Packers. I think this is all a narrative thing for me with this game.

Now, I'm serious. Oh, I'm taking the Jets. I already had this as a scheduled loss. I think the Jets win this game. There's too much speed for that Packers defense.

And Gino. I don't like him, but Gino's only shit. If you allow him to throw from clean pockets. He's got like a perfect passer rating. If you get pressure, that's when he coughs the ball up and he's terrible.

Do you expect the Packers, the Packers, to get pressure for four quarters? I don't. Jets win this game 27-24. Go on, LeBron. Oh I hate to do it.

The Giants play the Rams, and I think the Rams are going to win. I hope I'm going with them in Survivor. It's Monday night. It's in LA. I think if the Giants were going to win, the Jets would win.

I think there'd be a narrative where both teams are 2-0 and New York is going crazy. And I get pissed. I thought you were going to get me in my own head about Survivor. Why did you have to do that? Go on.

No, but they're not. I don't think they're going to win.

So, if the Giants had a game that was winnable or more winnable, I would say they're going to win. And the Jets are going to win, and everybody in New York is going to be: what do we do? We're both 2-0. And then they both missed the playoffs or whatever. LaFleur.

Having such a shitty game. was I don't know, I'll just tell you. Incredible for the Winkler verse numbers. If he has another shitty game. I might be able to retire.

No, not really. But I'll like. This is going to be very, very exciting for me in the Winklerverse because people will want to talk about it. I Yeah. Ah, I think the players.

Have enough Like strength and motivation, I think they're not going to let LaFleur ruin their season. At least not yet. Mm. Who's the leader in the locker room? Let me ask you that question.

Micah Okay, he's not playing. Who's the leader? Is Jordan Love the leader? I think he's not. I don't think that he's a leader, but he's not going to be like.

All right, guys, come on. He's not going to start talking. And then the rookies are like, oh, fuck, this guy's talking. Like, I don't want to do the thing where it's like, oh, the Packers were the youngest team in the league. The Packers are the youngest team in the league, but like, they need some vets.

Like, when they're good, it's because you gotta get. What about this from Mitch? The Jets are going to get clobbered. The Packers loss was to set up the New York gambling money. I don't have any say on that.

I don't know. I don't think that's the case. I hope that, I mean, like. I'm going to, I bet the Jets actually already. I got four and a half.

I wish I got five and a half. That doesn't matter. I always try to think, most extreme, if my life was on the line. Hmm, I'd take the Jets. I'm going to take.

the Packers to win. I gotta be honest, man, like if the game's in Lambo. Yeah. But the again, the Jets have a shitload of speed. But why?

Why am I taking the Packers to win? And I just don't trust the Packers' defense to be able to. Honestly, get enough stops. And like I already said, what is the world if the Packers lose to the Jets? They're 0-2.

Everyone's saying the same shit. Nothing's going to change. Nothing's going to change. If Micah Parsons is playing in this game, I'm all over Green Bay because Geno Smith is going to die on that field, or he's going to throw four picks. But The problem is, man, I think he's going to have some clean pockets, and I don't trust the secondary to.

Especially like Yeah, I like the Jets. God, I hate myself. But I also, when we did our schedule show, I said schedule loss, Jets. Because everybody in the world's gonna like green beta bounce, but oh, we only got It's only three and a half. Like what's the money line right now at Pado?

Uh Probably not even minus two minus a dollar seventy five minus one seventy five There you go. The Jets are only, you're not even getting two to one odds. FanDuel has plus 164. And it's a game, the total's only 44 and a half. I think it's going to be 2117 Jets.

I hate to say it. I think it's going to be like ten to six Packers. I think Garrett Wilson's going to have a day. I got Brees Hall on fantasy. I think I'm going to fall asleep during this game.

Hold on. Did the Jets have the more talented team? Like, think about the skill position players we're talking about on the Jets side. Brees Hawk. Brees Hawk clears.

Wilson clears. Craft clears. Yeah, but he's coming back from a knee injury. Yeah, but he looked fine. Yeah, he looked fine, but like We can't say because I would put him in like top three, like, you know, I mean, I'm not going to get crazy because would they draft David Bailey?

There's some really dude. There's like some really good tight ends. Why can't I think of Trey? I couldn't think of Trey McBride's name. What'd you say?

David Bailey is going to fucking feast on this O-line. And if you're the Jets. If you're the Jets. You're like, oh, the Vikings Blitz love seventy five percent. Why don't we Why don't we double that?

Not only David Bailey looked so good. He had a sack. Sadiq scored the first touchdown of the season. They have so much talent. I love the Jets.

It's my God. I actually, I shit on like all the New York people that were like, I'll go with the Jets making the playoffs. I just didn't want to believe because, like, even Rodgers couldn't take them to the playoffs, but and I don't like the coaching staff, but like, they have a ton of talent. Alex says the Packers are going to win, but it'll be by only six. The Jets did a great job last week.

But the Titans are probably the worst team in the league. It'll be an awful watch. It will be an awful watch. But we'll be here live after. Live after.

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Now, They're two and a half point favorites because Atlanta doesn't have a quarterback. I need to tell you about a different pizza place, real quick. Go ahead. Falbo Brothers was in Shorewood. They're so fucking good.

And they used to have a thing that said like, Eat here free. Bill Murray.

Somebody else and Sparky. And Sparky said he went there once because someone told him about it, and then they wouldn't give him a free pizza. Hmm.

So then they erased Sparky's name and they put my name. And I went in there all the time, but I'd never like. And I paid with my card and they never...

So I don't know what the fuck happened. They closed because the lady was working 80 hours a week and she was fucking miserable. Yeah, but it was the best pizza I've ever had, it was so fucking good. Mm-hmm.

Blockbuster manager says Ryan is morphing into Aaron Rodgers. How long till you schedule your first darkness retreat? Uh, after football season, actually. No, never. Are you gonna be happily married and yet talk about all your ex-girlfriends 100% of the time?

No, no. I don't have any bad ex-relationships, actually. I get along with all my ex-girlfriends. I mean, not like weirdly, but. They're all married.

They all get along with mine, too. We still bang on the weekends. You're weird. I like all their photos of their kids. They do the same.

I don't have bad relationships with anybody except for. Former bosses, I guess. Anyway, and no, what the fuck is that supposed to be? If anything, Aaron Rodgers is trying to be me. I've never seen that.

I've always thought that. I've never switched up. Anyway, Atlanta doesn't have a quarterback. Is Atlanta even like, you know how we do this always? Like, man, they got Bijan and they got Drake London.

They have all this talent. Is it a quarterback? Is it a coach? I just don't think. They're ever going to be good again.

Every year, somebody makes the case for this team. And yeah, sure, like Bijan's a great fantasy player, but the organization is dog shit, dude. I Oh, hold on. This guy hates me. He says, Is Bart ever going to man up and talk about Goody?

What do you want me to say? What do you want me to say? His offensive line is a fireball offense. What do you want me to say? There you go.

No. Is that okay? Is that enough? Do I need to do more? Donovan Jennings is like talking this week and he's like.

Well, that was fun. I can't wait to do it again. Do what again? Suck? How do you build an entire team?

For the Super Bowl. And then be like. Offensive line is just fucking whoever. I don't like the offensive line, like to watch the game. I don't like the, I don't like watching the line.

I don't get nothing. I watch the ball. But if I was ever the general manager of a football team, The offensive line would be what I sunk all my fucking investments into. Yeah, the offensive and defensive line. That's how you win Super Bowls.

You got to protect the quarterback. You got to get after the quarterback. Right. The trenches. I want my quarterback.

I want my quarterback to be able to fucking take a nap back there. Yeah. Like Matthew Stafford last year had a ton of time. Yeah, no, he doesn't. He fucking sucks.

And Miles Garrett is hurt. That team sucks. Yeah, who would have seen that come? Everybody loved the Rams except for this guy. Plus 450 for them.

You know who I love is Bryce fucking Young. I'm all in. No, see, this is what I'm saying, though.

Okay, so the Atlanta. BFY, more like BFY. Atlanta opened up as a short favorite, and everybody was like, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to have to resist a little bit here. If this gets to three.

Big bet at two and a half at Caesars right now and at Pato, if you're in the area, which I'm not, unfortunately. I will be though in November for Goose, and I'm going to stay there for the three-night run. First round on me. I'm going to go Atlanta. Two and a half.

Atlanta is going to win this game outright. They're going to beat Carolina. Carolina is going to start 0-2. Skill position players show up. Not gonna lie, I haven't paid for it.

Atlanta's gonna win? Atlanta's going to win this game by a field goal.

So they opened his favorite. I love the reverse line movement here. I don't, I'm going to take, I'm going to take Atlanta. I'll grab the two and a half. I would I big bet if it gets the three.

To go from a one-point favorite to a three-point dog is just like, what? Because of the quarterback situation? They already went into the year with Tua and Michael Pennex. Right, like they could call Shane Falco off the street and I'm still gonna That's not going to matter to me. Quarter Carolina, I'm against you on both games so far.

I love that. All right. Sure you do. Let's go to Houston. I'm really excited for this game.

I bet this immediately. I'm all in on the Bengals this year. Week one shows you why. That defense, man, they took the football away. Burrow in the offense, Jamar Chase had what, like 12 yards receiving?

He didn't even have 25. I know that. And they still won that game. That's a game that Cincinnati loses the last five years. 10 out of 10 times, but they won that game because the defense showed up.

They forced a ton of takeaways, picks. Force fumbles. Um, the offensive line is the only thing that concerns me with the Bengals. Skill position, Chase Brown's a stud, Higgins is a stud. I like Gaseki in that role, and Jamar Chase is going to get going eventually.

He's one of the better receivers in the league. I'm a big burrow guy, they just got to protect them, don't let them die. I think Houston's a little overrated. The defense is. good, but man, I wasn't overly impressed and Like I said, I don't trust Stroud.

Give me, I bet the Bengals immediately at three. It's down to two and a half right now at Pato. I still like Scentsy. I think they win this game outright. On the road.

I will go with you on that. I think Houston's going to be fine, but they'll start poor and have like a bit of a panic. Nico Collins is questionable, like real questionable, not like fake questionable. Like Sam Levitt? Is he gonna play?

I think he probably does, but I bet Olmiss anyway. I bet Omiss at three. I think Ole Miss wins that game. Ryan, how much is Mount Carmel beating St. Pat's Friday night?

Oh, goddamn. Probably by three scores at least. My team stinks. Providence fired their coach, and nobody knows why. They're 4-0.

It's like the biggest story in Illinois right now. The dude was on like Chicago, right, or he was on. I saw Lawrence Holmes post, like, and nobody knows why the guy's fired. They're undefeated. They just named the weight room after his brother who passed away like five years ago.

Mount Carmel, though, hate to admit it, is a Juliet Catholic guy. Best program in the Chicagoland area. Just every year, just domination. Joliet, like JCA is too fucking expensive. Nobody cares.

JCA. I agree. Just too expensive. Just not the school it once was. Anyway, um They had a lot of bad stuff went down there too.

Uh, what game are we on? We both like the Bengals. Love the Bengals this year. I think if they don't go to the Super Bowl, they at least reach the AFC Championship game. Feel terrible about the other team I was all in on, though.

The Chargers look like dog shit. All right, next on the board, we go to Tampa Bay. Bucs are eight and a half point favorites. It opened at five and a half, but the Browns looked terrible. Deshaun Watson.

Actually, I played a little bit better in the second half, but my God, when you throw a pick on your first play, it ain't good. Total in the game went from 42 and a half to 41 and a half.

So here's a situation where I'm going to take the dog, I'm going to bet the Browns. Miles Garrett's gone, I know, and the offense isn't going to be very good. I just think in a game where the total is 41 and a half. You still have a decent defense. I was not impressed with the Bucs whatsoever.

Or Baker. I'll take the Browns. They seem like a team that's going to score. 25 to 31 points a game, but also give up 35 to 39 points a game. Yeah, like the okay, so like the total in the game is 41 and a half.

What's let's see what the Bengals team total is. Um, in this game, the Browns, the Bucks, the Browns, the Bucks, the Browns. Like, how many points do the Browns realistically need to score? All right, so the Browns' team total is 16.5. Tampa's 25 and a half here, obviously, with the total being 41 and a half.

Yeah, I bet, I'm going to bet Cleveland right now, eight and a half. I'm gonna take the favorite. Browns might fuck around and win this game. I'm not there yet. They saw it.

I like the Browns here. I'm not going to take them to win. No money line. It's plus 360 if you want to get wild. They're better off starting.

No quarterback than Deshaun Watson. Like, they're better off starting Kendall Hinton or just snapping the ball and letting somebody pick it up. I mean, like, he's terrible, but like, just go with Shadur, right? And suck, and then next year, get any. Shadur?

Although here's can I tell you the problem with Shadur? Yeah. I mean, he's not good.

Well, he's got good bones. There is a... Moldable? I mean, he was a Pro Bowler. He doesn't have the attitude, though.

But there's multiple talent there. If you're like, but like, he's got talent. He has the talent, though, of like an NFL underdog that has to like overcome everything, but he has the fucking. Ego of Pat Mahomes. That's the issue, man.

No, here's Shadur. Shadur is the quarterback in a movie where the team's struggling and then. And then, on like some rainy night, he gets a phone call that his mentor died or something, and he visits the grave or the wife's house, and then he looks through the. The trophy case, and it's a bunch of pictures of the coach with Shadur. And, like, he, you never knew he was hard on you, but he, you meant the world to him.

You were like the son he never had. And then Shadur gets motivated, and then he fucking goes and wins. but he needs that moment. Instead, his dad's up there with half a leg saying, Oh, fucking remember when we were good for three games?

So, the Browns just need to suck and get one of these quarterbacks, but Man, did Dante Moore play like shit? Man, is Oregon overrated. If Oregon doesn't go undefeated the rest of the way and at least reach the national title game, I think there has to be a Dan Lanning conversation. Not that he's going anywhere. But how fucking overrated he was, man.

Everybody, he was ever. That's why you always be at bail. That's why you take the job. Go to Alabama. Nobody wanted, and then little Signetti goes into Indiana.

Turns out he might be the greatest of all time up there with Sabin and Kirby still. But man, what a brutal loss for Oregon. I don't like that ESPN right now is turning into, hey, remember Nick Sabin? They're doing a six fucking episode show on them. I don't watch anymore, so I can't really complain.

Like, game day used to be appointment television. I've actually switched to the big noon kickoff. Hey, Big Noon's where it's at, dude. Mark Ingram, he's a man. I like all those guys.

I kind of like Urban. Like, I don't like him. Urban's good on TV. Just like Belichick before he got a boob job. What the fuck was that?

Like I like like if they let somebody have D cups Like, if they let Saban actually just talk ball, I would be all in on that whole thing. But, like, when we got like Jelly Roll and fucking Travis Trit coming on, I'm good. Retiring Shaddur's jersey is the worst thing primetime could have ever done. I feel like if you haven't won, if you didn't win like the Jaden Daniels thing, like I didn't want to get all involved in it, but like if you didn't win a natty, why are they going to retire your jersey? How stupid are you if you drafted Travis Hunter in fantasy this year?

Honestly, really dumb because they told you he was primarily going to play defense. How dumb are you if you trade up to take Travis Hunter? How dumb are you if your player cop, and I like Travis Hunter, dude, but people were comparing him to Justin Jefferson? Justin fucking Jefferson. They thought they were getting two for the price of one.

I don't understand how some people have jobs. One person that might not have a job is like Robert Sala. That press conference was embarrassing. I actually was in on the Titans this year over six and a half wins. God, did Cam Ward look terrible?

He's lucky that nobody watches Titans football and they don't appear on Red Zone channel because they rarely cross the 50-yard line. He looked like a fucking UFL quarterback. That said, this went from four and a half to seven. Um, give me the Titans here to cover the seven against the Eagles. That's too many points.

I think they show up. I think they show better game two for Sala at home against Philly. I just don't think Philly's good enough to be laying this number this season yet. Maybe later on I'm wrong, but give me the Titans plus seven, Titans Theory. They look like shit week one.

Nobody wants anything to do with them. Week two, they might fuck around and win this game. Shout out, Cam Ward. Don't make me look dumb. Eagles might win 10 games.

They'll win one or two of them by more than seven points.

So I agree with you. I'm going Titans' theory. and taken uh Tennessee. One game I was wrong on last week was uh that Baltimore Indianapolis game. I was wrong about like pretty much every game, but the Colts got dog walk.

And I uh, what I was, I love Lamar's season-long rushing yards and his rushing yards like every week, man. Because last year he stayed in the pocket too much. I know he was like beat up, but he's gonna use his legs, Derrick Henry. looked fucking awesome. Um And the defense looked good.

Still, god, I don't want to bet too many dogs, but eight and a half is a big number. This open seven and a half. If I had to bet it though, I would... I would take the Saints. I think the Saints are being undervalued in the market.

Um God, the locker has a question for you. I like the Saints eight and a half. What? Who's the better two-way player? Otani or Hunter?

414-799-1250. Isn't Shohei done pitching? No, that's not what they would ask. They would ask, like. Which Wisconsin legend?

Do you think could have been a two-way guy?

Well, I think Robin Young, you know, he had an arm in Alfie. I think he could have been a pitcher. I think he was bugging shit. I always want to see Jeff Janice put on 20 and play cornerback. I honestly would have felt better about Aaron Rodgers in the secondary than Ladarius Gunter.

I mean, think about Rogers' tackle on Brian Urlacher saved the NFC championship game in 2000. People forget. I don't. I watch that play daily. One of the worst moments turned into one of the best when you think about it.

Happens in life. I will take the Saints to cover, but the Ravens to win. What about you? It's eight and a half. Yeah.

I can see the Ravens pounding them, but I'm going to continue to take the Saints anything over a touchdown. I think they'll do what they did last week. They'll look bad and then they'll somehow lose by a point. Yeah, exactly. Didn't they start 21?

Wasn't it that 121, nothing? They were down? They were down. I fell asleep during the last hour of those games. I woke up, I saw 31.30.

I was like, what the fuck happened? I didn't even know about the two-point conversion until later. I didn't even see it. I'm still not even sure it actually happened. I think I just.

Gibbs was flexing his nuts all over him early. Good thing for the people that bet minus 350 on anytime touchdown prices is a goddamn fucking criminal act, by the way. I don't care how good the player is, and I don't care if it's a 99% shot. These prices, unless it's like James Jones hoodie season, it sucks. I don't even bet as many.

I used to like say fuck sides and totals a lot of weeks in the NFL and bet player props, but there's no advantage anymore. There just is anybody that's telling you there is is is lying. Everything is priced the way that it should be. I got auto-drafted Travis Hunter. That sucks.

Fifteen second timer? Yikes. What's next? I just, yeah. Let's go to Chicago.

We're going probably an hour and a half today, just so you know. That's fine. Bears are four and a half point favorites over the Vikings. Total in the game is 48.5. This was one of the first bets that I placed.

Um I like Minnesota. A lot. I think Minnesota might win this game. Kevin O'Connell there, Cargill. Yeah, dude, and not like Wentz has a full week to prep where he is the guy.

Not that he's great, but everybody loves the Bears because they just scored 100 points. Let's not forget that's Carolina's defense. Almost dead last against the run, not much better against the pass. Every year, people want to believe in Carolina, they're fucking dumb. And I think the bears are way overvalued here.

So, another dog for me.

Well, I'm getting more than a field goal with O'Connell and Flores. Give it to me. Chicago's really writing this. Let's pretend like things are happening for the first time ever. They're talking about 59 points.

Like, I think, I think babies born this week in Chicago were named 59 because they scored 59 fucking points. Let me say something. I love the rivalry and whatnot, but I don't want to like piss in their serial about them being excited because their team just put up mad at them. The score this morning is talking about when PCA's at the plate, everyone in the family stops and looks at the TV like it's Barry fucking Bonds going for 73. You guys.

This isn't the first time. Players have been good. They're acting like this stuff. Like the MVP award was always a hypothetical, but it's going to exist this year because PCA is going to win it.

Okay, we were doing the same thing in Milwaukee with Giannis though. And with, like, and people stopped caring about MVPs with Rodgers because we were like, all right, we want to fucking. It affected me. Exactly, though. Do you see where people are like, fuck this guy, though?

I mean, I know why people say fuck me, but like. I don't. What I'm saying is, I get why people in Chicago are excited. You know, they got the Bears are going to win. I don't.

I think Minnesota is going to bring them back down to earth. In fact, I think they win this game outright. Give me the Vikings. Vikings money line. It is.

Plus Plus Fuck, I can't even find it. Am I on drugs? Yes. Plus 185. Vikings.

What's that line again? Skull. Four and a half. That's my big bet. Mm.

Too many points. More than a few. Wicked Styles says: First time catching you live, always download the pod, listen at work, miss you on the radio, Bart. Yeah, somebody should hire us, or at least you. I appreciate that, first of all.

This is it now. The Winkler's. I'm in. I'm not. I'm in.

I'm not. I'm not applying. What if ESPN calls you and they're like, hey, SVP wants to leave Knights, do you want to host the new Sports Center? Winkler style. I'd be like, you're gonna have to build a studio in my basement.

Yeah, I would fucking do that. Of course, I would. All right, we head out to Boston, we're New England. Goes from a four and a half point favorite to a five point favorite, total in the game 40. If ESPN Beaver Dam called me and said, well, we'll drive up here and do a weekly hit for 20 bucks a week, I'd fucking do it.

Oh, um Billy Strings, Halloween, yes, in Baltimore. Hell yeah. The last show was last year, I didn't. I watched it on Nugs, and it was like the worst FOMO I've ever had in my life. Anytime Billy is anywhere near.

The DMV, I'll be there. I will not miss a show ever again. I'm going to Sturgil, Johnny Blue Skies, coming up in October for my birthday. And I'll be in Milwaukee in November, so we'll have to get together. I already got it all planned out.

I'm going to go to Bosch Tavern on Friday. for a little fish fry represent house form Yeah, I was always a big fan of it there. But I'm gonna go to all three nights of goose, so I'll be around. When are you coming back? November?

For what? Uh Um, God, I gotta check now. Ninth, I wanna say, uh, is when I get back. No. Uh Uh the eighth.

No. No, I get in on the fifth. It's the sixth, seventh, and eighth, I think. Oh, then we'll have to do this on a Wednesday. Anyway.

I was I like a lot of dogs this week. Here's a favorite. My kid doesn't have school that Friday with the book. Big bet for me here, Bart. I hate betting against Rodgers and McCarthy, but I gotta do it.

Patriots bounce back. Good spot. They're at home. I love the paths minus five. Minus five, five point favorites.

Lay in five. Against Rodgers? Aaron Rodgers is 1-4 and 1 against the spread. That's not like the gambling people talk now. No, yeah, against Rodgers.

I think that the Patriots are going to beat the living. I think they're going to beat the living fuck out of the Steelers, at least by a touchdown. Pats, I'm laying the five. Multiple multiple units. I don't know, man.

I'm pretty in on McCarthy and Rogers. How come the Patriots can just do whatever the fuck they want all the time? What do you mean? What do they do? Yeah, their owner's up to some shit.

The fucking coach fucked Diana Rossini and no one cares. But like isn't every owner up to some shit? They're all like rubbing ties. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like naming an owner that you would.

That you think is like a stand-up human. Let me answer your real question. I'd say 98% of rich people are rich because they fucking undercut somebody or did something fucked up at one point. Or the lengths that people go. Here's what I don't understand.

The lengths that people go to. To have Intercourse. or to receive some sort of sexual favor. And how much trouble they get in because of that. Are these people aware there is a method where you can just do it yourself?

And you can be with anybody. M D K said Cincinnati at Houston. We picked that one. I like Scentsy. Yeah, we like the Bengals.

Like the Bengals and that one. All right, we move on. Let's go to. Los Angeles, the Chargers are laying six and a half. The Chargers.

Total in the game, 43.5. It's a big number, but I actually like the Chargers to bounce back. I do not like this Raiders team. I know that they won week one, and I bet against them with the Dolphins, and Kirk Cousins looked all right, but eight and a half. No, it's six and a half now.

I'll take the Raiders to cover. I'll take the Chargers to win, but I'll take the Raiders to cover that. I'm going to take the Chargers. The cover, I like them at six and a half. Anything under a touchdown.

I like a 24. 20 kind of thing. Denver is a two and a half. Nobody's bet this game. Denver is two and a half.

That's where they opened against Jacksonville. Total 45 and a half. I actually like the Jags here, man. I think there's a reason that we haven't got to three yet, and I hope that we do. I was really impressed with Jacksonville.

I know they played the Browns, but. Trevor Lawrence looks like he's finally got it all figured out. I really like the Liam Cohen hire. The defense looked really good. Bo Nicks looked awful.

And I just, I'm not in love with Denver. I know the roster on paper looks perfect, but I just don't love this team. I don't love Sean. Did you see this bullshit story where all of a sudden Drew Brees was going to come back last year? Yeah, I saw that.

I don't believe it for a fucking second. Don't we do this every year with every quarterback? Philip Rivers is going to come up. Sean Payton's like, I never heard of it. That's very interesting.

Bullshit. I think the Jags win this game. Jags money line. Sean Payton is probably the most fucking. meddler of any fucking code.

I hate them. I don't like them. Neither. Jacks plus 130. Of all the coaches you could have made a movie about the last 20 years, you made one about fucking Sean Payton, and you left out the part where he told people to murder other people for money.

Also, like They should have made a movie about Mike McCarthy then, because they have like identically the same. Coaching record and revenue. Yeah, and Kevin James looks way more like Mike McCarthy than he does Sean Payton. Why do we act like Sean Payton's won like 15 Super Bowls? They won one Super Bowl.

Because he's friends with all the guys in the media because of the one year he spent on Fox. Although I love Kyle Shanahan and he's one zero.

Well, he's only several.

So McVay's been to a couple, but he's only won one. You got to pay Ryan more. Actually, he asked for a raise and I gave it to him. He did. Shout out to Bart.

Jags. I love the Jags. Shout out to the drive, actually. The drive. Yeah, shout out to the drive.

See, if they make a field goal. From one to forty-nine yards, I get money on this drive. I love that. The Packers finally got a kicker that could do so. Just don't ask him to kick extra points.

Yeah. I mean, it couldn't be all perfect. We knew that was coming. Yeah, like you don't want to set the ex it's like kind of when you start a new job. You never want to expect uh like set the expectations too high.

Under promise, over deliver. Right. Just be like, you know, give 80%, not 110% right away. Yeah. You give 110% when you're like under watch.

You know what I think is fucked up in this country? Promotions. Like a lot of times, if a guy does good at his He gets a promotion to an entirely different job that he doesn't know how to do. If you're the best guy in sales. Just pay him more money to do what he's doing.

Don't promote him to manage other people. Right? Maybe they tried that and it didn't work. I don't know. What do I know about business?

I only own my own. Are you taking Jacksonville or Denver? I'm taking a fucking break. No. I'm taking.

Hold on. What are you? Is that a walking stick? Yeah, this is my LaFleur beat stick. Why do you have that?

For when I January 6th Lambo. I got it from my friend Scott Udy. People are talking about my crystal. Why do you have a stick? I actually got it from my friend.

He liked, we did a fantasy draft one year. And he's like, hey, I got you this. He goes, come to my trunk, I have something for you. And it was the stick. I'd be worried.

I said, what is this? And he goes, I want you to have it. I got it for you. It's a walking stick. And I said, I don't.

I don't need it. And he said, No, it's great. Was he maybe telling you to walk softly but carry a big stick? He was. Do you think maybe that was the interpretation?

For some reason, I can't. Do what I want to do with this picture. Yeah. Oh, brother. But I did.

I'm sure you've seen this. I was very happy about it at the time. I'll put it here on the. Dan Shaney YouTube stream. It was my Halloween costume one year.

That is a great that's a good that's a good one. I was John Hammond from Jurassic Park and my kid was a dinosaur. Yeah, I kind of gathered that. And the walking stick came in perfectly. I dyed my beard white.

Look at that shit. Dude, we had a Halloween party that morning. People were coming to my house. They're like, whose dad is this? They thought I was someone's grandpa.

Really? Mm-hmm.

Hmm.

And then my kid, the dinosaur costume was too big for him.

So he ended up walking around. I think it's a brewer. Um Do you like the Broncos or the Jags? I like Jacksonville. Do you think they on the road?

Not a problem. They're spending 28 of their next 33 games on the road if you count playing at Camping World Stadium in Orlando. They're built for this. I honestly didn't even know that, but like, hell yeah, let's go, Jags, two and a half. I think they win the game outright.

Duval.

Alright, let's go to Dallas. Cowboys. What a letdown week one. They're four and a half point favorites against the Commandos. Total in the game, some under money coming in.

51 and a half down to 50 and a half. The Jags find a way. Love the check. That's good. It's good.

Going um The je jags find a way. I got Cowboys bounce back. Four and a half. Well, you know how I feel about Dallas. I love them.

They're my Super Bowl pick. Commanders, dude, commanders actually should have won that game against Philadelphia. The defense played good. Remember when people, I was always on this. I said, Jaden's going to look better year one, but Caleb's going to be the better pro with the higher ceiling.

I worry about Jaden getting to that second read. Hell of an athlete. CJ Stroud, dude. He got. They figured him out.

I always do early and now it's like, oh, okay. I'll take the Cowboys. I'll lay the four and a half here. I think Bryce Young's going to be an MVP in this league someday. No, I will take that bet right now, like you and Chuck did with Giannis.

$500. You got to give me five to one. Deal. I'll give you six to one. Yeah, I only want to throw you a 20 though.

I don't know that he ate uh never mind. I like Dallas. You know I love Dallas. All right. Didn't go good week one.

We'll see if it looks a little bit better week two. All right. They knew they were on national TV. They knew that. You know, New York needed it more.

They they tanked that one. They found it in. 49ers. That's why they're America's team. San Fran went from 10.5 to 13 and a half at home because they're playing the Dolphins.

Total's 45.5. This number is getting out of control. I'll wait till we get to 14 or 14 and a half. I hope it doesn't get there because if so, Gonna have to do it week two, dude. Give me the dolphins.

A couple of tweets to read from Ken on Facebook. I'm at the proverbial betting lunch table with you dudes all season. It was a 13-18-one start for me versus the spread in total. I'm a Patsy. But give me the lines and the points and the under tonight.

Hmm.

I had Arizona outright last week, so I don't suck all the time. It's a good jet. That's a really good bet because that eliminated 30% of my survivor pool. Are you in survivor this year? Yeah, I took the Raiders.

I'm taking the Niners. I'm actually going to take the Rams because I don't love their schedule the rest of the year. Every game is like a coin flip, in my opinion. People are too high on them. Robert says big upset of the week is Dolphins over the Niners because the whole team got chlamydia from.

Koala Bears. They spend too much time in Australia. That's a great point, though. This is like a terrible thing. Like, I know they go back home, man, but.

I like the Dolphins to cover here. Level I'm not taking 13 and a half. Miami for you? Yeah, but I I'm taking the Niners as my Survivor. Oof I don't know that I love that.

You know who I might pivot to is the Chiefs. They're back. I fucking told you they never went anywhere, baby. No, that's true. They didn't.

Mahomes' injury was. At the end of this, like, they didn't go anywhere. That was my biggest bet of the year. Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker was Seattle came home too.

I said to parlay him even. Kenneth Walker was good in Seattle, and they're still going to run Emmett Johnson. Like, they're not going to give Kenneth Walker, you know, 100%, 90% of the snaps, but. In Seattle, like They were protective of him. They didn't want to run him more than 60% of the snaps.

This is the best running back they've had. In this entire era. The Giants Sunday night, the Chiefs Monday night. I don't even know what I'm apologizing for the three losses. Kenneth Walker over two and a half catches.

I agree the Chiefs are back, but here's what I don't agree with. They're not.

Well, I'll take the Chiefs next week. They're taking the Raiders. They're going to win, but I like the Colts to cover the six and a half. Big number, man. Colts don't want to start 0-2.

I think Daniel Jones will play better, although. Coming back from a devastating injury, I was happy with the way that Jonathan Taylor looked for my fantasy team that nobody cares about, but. Give me Indy six and a half. Yeah, I'm gonna still take the Chiefs. Oh, Seattle, Arizona.

Arizona's catching four. Total in the game is 41 and a half. I like Seattle here, man. The opener would have been 10, but because of the quarterback situation for Seattle, we're all the way down to four. Arizona with the big upset, they're at home.

I think they come back down to earth and get an ass beating from the. Defending champs. Seattle for me. I love Darnold, but I think like you. No, I'm not going to go that far.

I don't think it's going to be a huge loss. I'm going to have a new Super Bowl prediction. It's going to be Bills Chiefs. That can't happen.

Well, it's going to because the Bills are going to beat the Chiefs in the AFC championship game.

Something's going to happen. Like, this country is going to be on fire come next February.

So, Texas has already seceded.

So, while they secede, the NFL is going to be like, well, We're kind of caught here. We can't. Kim. I know we go to play other countries, but there's a whole thing.

So the Cowboys are going to win, but we're going to say we have to replace them.

So they're going to bring in the AFC Championship loser and play. And that'll fuck Dallas going out of a Super Bowl. But they'll crown themselves as the Texas, the TFL champions, and they'll play a game against Houston, who actually will have made the playoffs and lost to the Chiefs on the way. Hey, bonus pick. I like Syracuse tonight.

10.5 against Pitt. Bonus pick. I like the Brewers to win their fourth straight NL Central. Me too. All right, we got only a couple more here, so let's finish in style.

I like the Dolphins. I think Malik Willis is going to run all over him. I like the Colts to cover the sixth and a half. We go to Monday night. Right now, this is my survivor pick, dude.

I know I hate the travel situation, going back to Australia to go home, and the Giants look good, but. I'm gonna go with the Rams here. I'm not gonna bet seven and a half. I'll I'll pick the Rams for purposes of the show. Total in the game, 48 and a half.

I just, I don't like the Rams' upcoming schedule enough to use them again, I don't think, man. And I do think there's going to be a bunch of injuries that pile up. Like next week they gotta travel to take on Denver. In Denver, they might be 0-2 at the time, the Broncos. After that, who do they get?

They get fucking uh We don't gotta do uh the Philly though in Philly. I'm gonna use the Rams this week. I didn't do a drive to Pado pick of the week yet. I could go back or I could give it to this one. Mine's Bengals plus three.

No, mine's Jets' money line against the Packers. Nah, it's Bengals. Sean, should I pick you guys for the pick of the week?

Well, you could. I mean, the whole reason with the travel schedule was we wanted to go there and keep things steady. And in week one, we definitely want to win. It's a rivalry game, NFC West. A little different situation, but we were trying to think it's a full picture.

You know, you can't just overreact on week one. You can't put all your eggs in one basket.

So we're setting up for the months ahead. And we got the Giants. They're a plucky team. They're a good team. I love Jackson Dart.

He's somebody that we looked at. But I feel pretty confident in our team, confident in our abilities. You know, the Garrett thing is tough. We're hoping to get Aaron Donald pretty soon. But yeah, I trust in these guys.

I believe in these guys. And I think that you should drive to Pato and make a bet on us. All right, there it is, the Drive to Paddle game of the week, the Rams. I love how every time you do McVay, you do the, we to look at him. He's somebody we liked out of school.

Even though we don't scout anybody at all. And trade all our picks and take Ty Simpson in the first round. But that's jets. Atlanta. Cincy And the dolphins.

What could go wrong? Old miss plus three. I I have no idea. How this fucking Packers game is going to go. I think every scenario.

is on the table. Every scenario, jets blowout. Packers blowout. Jets by one. Overtime tie.

You can see the Packers blowing out the jets on the road. Fuck, you're right, no. I can't. Maybe we're wrong. LSU is beating Old Miss.

Yeah, I agree because I want Ole Miss, and so does everybody. And I got old mess. I feel like even if Sam Levitt didn't play, LSU probably rolls anyway. Who the fuck do the Badgers play this weekend? Uh Oh, Eastern Michigan?

Because they played Western Illinois. Yeah, they got Eastern, and then they got Penn State next week, right? Around the 26th, whenever the fuck that is. Yeah, next week. Penton State looks good too.

I mean, I know they didn't cover against Temple. Which I thought was funny because my cousin bet Penn State, but Penn State looks pretty good, dude. Rocco back to your guy. Yeah, I told Matt Campbell, Matt E. C., I always said.

Many of you did. Yeah, you've been talking about Matt Campbell since like 2017, if I recall correctly. IIRC. Oh, my guys. Ends up, turns out they're pretty good.

Ben Johnson, Matt Campbell, Daniel Jones. We always believed in Daniel Jones. Just needed the right system. Small hands. Big heart.

So they say about Daniel Jones. Um Thank you. We did good we did good today, an hour and 15 minutes. You said 90 minutes. I took the under.

Hour and 15. What are you doing the rest of the day? Um Well Gonna head to the gym. I got a big night tonight. My kid is in fallball.

So, just like 90 minutes of baseball, fun. That's fun. But. I also scheduled him in flag football.

So after school, I'm making him do an hour of flag football. He gets a 15-minute break. And then he's got fallball. Yeah, see, I like that though. That's how it used to be when I was growing up, and that's the way that it should be.

Like, especially. But I've been prepping him all week, like. You got two things, and we just yanked him out of swimming because. Swim lessons are weird. They're the same as like psychiatrists.

Like, if you talk to a psychiatrist and you're like, I'm good now. They're going to be like, well, now let's explore. Like, they're never going to let you go. And in swim lessons, Oh, I know how to swim now. No, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, keep paying us.

I could turn that into a stand-up bit, I don't know. You could just stop talking to psychiatrists. Huh? I don't, they're not gonna like hunt you down. You could just stop answering their calls.

Yeah, but they're never going to be the ones to be like. I think you've improved. You're good. You've passed the test. Small hands, big heart will probably lose the Daniel Jones story.

Dude, Kyle Chandler is great in lanterns. Kyle Chandler is great in everything. He just he plays this guy who's like just so fucking tired and annoyed, and it's just so fucking good.

So he plays you? Do you? You gotta, you gotta go watch the show early edition. What's that one? This was on TV.

My brothers and I watched it growing up. This was on TV in the 90s. Kyle Chandler. He got the newspaper of tomorrow today. Early edition, good name.

So then he would get the newspaper, and at first he's like, oh shit, that thing actually happened. And then he realized. I must be getting this newspaper for a reason.

So then he would see, like, Fire in hospital kills five. And he would go prevent that from happening. Hmm.

So that's when I first learned about I was in on Kyle Chandler. Like he was like my indie rock band. 'Kay. Just like I was in on Weezer first. Oh, do you have three seeds for Packers Jets?

Cohen wants to know. Yeah. I'm curious. I'm curious to see. If Matt LaFleur has any tricks up his sleeve.

I'm concerned about the pass protection and the run blocking, the offensive line in a hole. and I'm confident that the Jets cover. What about the three C's about your life? I'm concerned if I ever work in radio again. I'm confident that I probably don't.

And I'm curious if the guy responsible ever faces crimes. And I'm curious as to whatever the fuck else I do. Mm-hmm.

Besides, just I just wake up and stare at screens and bet games all day. It's actually not that bad. I'm curious how long my wife can. Continue to tell people. He's a podcaster when she's asked what her husband does for work.

Dude. Are you getting more spam calls now? More than ever. Dude, what the fuck? I get a lot of text too.

I always get like this is Olivia from X like from like Cable services and stuff that I don't even have because I have YouTube TV for the Sunday ticket. Yeah, it's Spectrum. Oh, did you watch did you do red zone week one? For the most part, yeah. Thought it was a little bit better this year.

I was a big Andrew Ciciliano guy, though. No shade to Hansen. Scott Hansen replied to an AI fembot. Saw that. Thought that was funny.

To b to be fair though, like man, what a Dog shit app these days. I got God a couple of weeks ago. I thought the Josh Jacobs video of Ray Rice was the Josh Jacobs. Yeah. You don't have the Ray Rice video burned into your brain.

I honestly know.

Well, I should though. I should. I have a. Do you have any video? I'll let you go.

Do you have any videos burned into your brain? The first time I ever saw a horse fuck a woman, that's why I hate horses. Jesus Christ.

Someone showed me that in college. Bud Dwyer killing himself so his wife could have the pension. That's in my brain. What else? I don't know, man.

I grew up in Chicago. Saw some. I got some like just weird shit in my brain. I saw. You know what I saw in DC?

I grew up in Fond of one of my teachers approached me to have sex. It was a man. I saw some dude get shot one time, but in DC, this fucked me up like a couple of years ago. I saw some dude. Just get just destroyed.

He was on his bike, and this car just like flew. And the dude went like flying and it's all Yeah, that that messed me up. Videos, two girls, one cup, obviously. Fucked me up pretty good. Although, didn't it come out that that was fake?

I don't know. That one messed me up bad.

Well, I mean, the shit wasn't fake. Yeah, what you just opened with there kind of Yeah. Cone, uh, what you said there, I would honestly rather be in Chicago than Joliet, to be honest with you. Um, I uh But the the That reminded me of the 40-year-old virgin. When he's like Went to a donkey show?

And uh, you know, after a while I just felt bad. Or th it was the horse show. Felt bad for her and the horse. I never saw that. I'm glad that I haven't.

Who showed you that? They should be in prison. Isn't that like against the law to watch things like that? It wasn't even bestiality. Yeah, it wasn't even like, hey, it wasn't even like I got Rick-rolled.

It was like, hey, Bart, look at this video of a horse having sex with some woman. I go, I don't want to see it.

Okay, I'm seeing it. Thank you. It's like a car crash, you just couldn't not look, huh? Anyway, then, of course, I had to see what all the fuss was about. Good picks.

Hopefully, I'm wrong about the Jets, but. I just can't see the Packers defense keeping up with all that speed. Can you? Are you doing a post-game show? If they lose, I want to jump on and call for LaFlore's head.

If they lose, I will not only have the walking stick in my bandana, I will be in full body paint, ready to go to war. Let me ask you a question really quick.

So, do you think Remember we'd always be like, well, the Packers aren't gonna fire anybody in season. But then they can McCarthy. People forget Horvot knew Delilah from the song Hey There, Delilah. My buddy they didn't even end up together either. People forget that I interviewed the plain white tees at K107 at Marion University.

Tom, I don't think the term simp was around, but the singer was just like a bit. I guess she was just, she kept it moving, baby, and he was like in love with her. He wrote that song for her and she was like. You know. Keeping it moving with like four other dudes though.

But if you're Delilah and the song's about you, you have to change your name. Why? I'd be like, I'm Delilah. This singer is like obsessed with me, and I don't even like him. And then people are going to be like, Yeah, Delilah, I think of Delilah and the radio.

She wasn't that bad. No, she wasn't that bad. It's Delilah. It's Delilah. My mom listened to Delilah on the radio.

I mean, I don't judge people by their looks, but like I didn't think she was like good enough to write a song about. It's not the girls that are that get the songs written about them. Like Tiffany Amber Thiessen, like if there was a song like Tiffany. No, the girls that end up wrecking you are the girls that. They're not they they are just like They're not that.

Mm. There's something about it. Mm. And then, and you tell your friends, like, I'm obsessed with this girl. And then you show her a picture, and they react like you just showed them a chick having sex with a horse.

You're like, this? Yeah, I want to get back to that.

So who, wait, who is the person? My college friends, I don't remember. Playing white teaser for L uh they're from Lombard though, Lombard, Illinois. Hello. They're a local band.

Hey dare Delilah, what's it like in New York City? The most underrated local bands ever, Lucky Boy's Confusion. Stubby. Stooby. Stubby.

Yeah, we're buds. He was at my friend's wedding. I didn't get to go, but he liked saying he did a bunch of radio shit with me when they had their side project. Super Heavy Fun Club. I always thought Stroke Nine should have had a better career, man.

They only had one song, but fuck does it rock? And I still listen to it. Which one's that? Ah Little black backpack. Go on to the back.

Little black backpack back. Don't want to think about it. I said this. That was Chicago area. Yeah.

I saw them play it. God, I don't even remember. A bar in the south side of Chicago that, like, we always used to go to. God, I can't remember. It's still around.

Hold on. Actually, with Stubby, one guy when I was with him called him Stubby, and he's like, Irish bar? He was pissed. My buddy, actually, I don't want to tell this story. Never mind.

It's okay. We should wrap up. Yeah, we should probably get off. This one won't come off very good. Faith.

For stopping into the Stinklerverse. See ya. as a fart. Mm.