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Good evening, everybody. My name is Bart Winkler. You are looking live at the Packers post-game show. The Green and Gold Postgame Show here out into the Winkler versus you're looking like Packers lost. 39 to 22.
Um Man, what a shitty game. Just an absolute terrible performance. I will throw the link out here momentarily. Welcome to the Resistance. Welcome to the Resistance against Matt LaFleur.
The big chunk of this is going to be anti-Lafleur. Which you're well aware of. But I saw A tweet. That just got. I'm dressed, I'm wearing a towel, and I have my resistance stick.
Because of a tweet from Peter Bukowski. Peter Bukowski, my dear. Dear friend. Says Losing this game might radicalize me against LaFleur. Losing this game?
is going to radicalize you against LaFleur losing this game. Is the same way we've been losing with Matt LaFleur for seven years. You do not need this game to radicalize you against. Matt LaFleur. It should have been done already.
This is the resistance. I'm going to create a banner on the screen. Welcome to the resistance. How do you spell resistance? A-N-C-E?
Oh god. Resistance. Fire Matt LaFleur. I will put the link out here momentarily. Man, this is going to be.
This is, I'd say, this is gonna be a fun one. This is not going to be a fun one. This is gonna be excruciating, as was this entire game. Mm-hmm.
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It's also. It's also, this is episode number 740 of Indo the Winklerverse. Four years strong. Our fourth Packer season. Doing this.
No, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26. Our fifth Packers season. Doing post-game shows on Indo-The Winklerverse, and we're almost up to 740. No, we're at 740. We're almost up to 777.
740, there's nothing lucky about that, but there is at Pado and Pado Atomy. is helping us count up. To 777, and we will have more details on some events we're gonna do there in a couple of months. All right, let's talk about the game. First of all, I must say something.
to those in my personal life. I'm sorry. I cannot text during games. I so Okay.
So, like the first set of tweets I saw today, narrative-wise, the first set of tweets were people again saying shit like, oh, my chart, my computer's gonna die. The first Thing that I saw people tweeting today was. Why would you ever watch red zone? It's AI rot, red zone. Watch one game.
We would love to, but the NFL throws eight games at you in the early window. This Packer game's on, three other games I want to watch. Yeah, you've got your bets, you got your fantasy. It's not about that. There's too much football happening at once.
That's why I love Sunday night. That's why I love Monday night. I only want one game at a time. I don't want this. I don't want red zone to be a thing.
I want to watch every game, but they're not gonna do it that way.
Okay, and when the Packers are on, when the Packers are on, my brain is on fire. My brain is on fire, and people don't text me: hey, Jordan Love, nice pass. It's just, oh, we suck. Fuck this, bullshit. I mean, of course, we're humans, and that's how we're going to work.
And I can't be hypocritical. I'm not saying anything good on this show tonight. At all. Except maybe I'll gloss Jordan Love. He was good until.
Until he wasn't, but the line sucked. The line sucked. All right, I'm going to read some initial comments. I'm going to share some LaFleur thoughts. We will work through the game.
And then I will put the um Link up on the screen. Different ear, same script. That's from Nick. That is my precise thought. That is my precise thought.
This is how it's going to be. We had a whole offseason. Of Same with the Badgers. Hearing good things, wanting to feel better.
Okay. Them telling us things are going to be better, gonna be different. And it's the same shit. This game is the same shit. This is the same shit as the Browns game, as the Panthers game, as the Buccaneers game from the NFC Championship, as any 49ers playoff game, as the Bears' games last year.
This is the same shit. It's on Matt LaFleur, and it's also on his players, but this unit. The Green Bay Packers cannot put together a full 60 minutes. They cannot keep their head in the game for a full 60 minutes. There's so many directions to go off of.
I do think it was some bullshit. I mean, there was the second Cooper sack. He got a sack and then he got another sack and it was a third down. And I'm thinking to myself: wait a minute, that was a third and long. And the Packers gotta stop.
Historically, what we're going to hear is. Penalty on the Packers, or there's going to be some kind of flag or some kind of bullshit. And guess what? There was. There was.
And you knew it was coming. And then roughing the passer on Carson Wentz, where he barely got touched. The weight was not on him. Then the other guy just lands on. Love takes the ball out from him.
No roughing the passer there. If you're getting sacked. And you go down with the ball, I guess that's not roughing the passer. But if the quarterback gets rid of it and then gets slightly tickled, then that is 15 yards free first down. Bobby, here's another one for the record books of all-time chokes.
Q, it's best to have no hope at all. Isaias, another collapse. I like the decision on fourth down, just not the play call. Madlefleur is up 22 to 17. They have three points, 25-17.
Hockley says we're taking points off the board. I don't like the editorialism. I mean, that is what happened, but weird that he said it. And that is a little weird. At first, you're like, okay, we got to feel though it's 25-17.
You feel good because if the Vikings score, they still need a two-point conversion, is what you're thinking, even though you know when the Vikings score they'll get that two-point conversion. I still think if we kick the field goal, the Vikings. Probably still score, but maybe they don't because now they were radicalized and they were. pumped up and they were energetic. And motivated that they gotta stop.
So maybe there was something to that. Maybe that had something. Um to do with it. But they scored, and then they got the two-point conversion as things usually go. The taking point, like if it was a field goal.
And he missed, obviously, you're gonna take the points or you're gonna take the yardage. Taking points off the board always gives you the ick. But that was the right call. That was the right call. Let's put these teams away.
Let's stop keeping everything a one-score game just to keep it a one-score game. That was the criticism that we've had against LaFleur forever. Taking points off the board. It hurts more because you saw 25. That was the right decision.
That was the right decision. The wrong decision was Jordan loved trying a quarterback sneak, which we're not good at. It was like fourth in a yard and a half. Even if you get the yard you need. You got another half yard to go, and guess how long they were short by?
A half a yard.
So that was terrible.
Some people want Bodhi. He's trying to tell me that Love Audible out of the play, which, by the way, is what he always says every time LaFleur makes a bad call.
So, not dancing with you on that one this time. It's always love's fault. Love played well. Love played well. He's going up to another level.
Love also. He dropped the ball and then he fumbled.
Okay, ball control, I guess. But I'm also thinking Love had like 0.6 seconds of play to get the ball out of his hands. The offensive line wasn't so bad, it was terrible. Take my offensive line. It's so bad, it's terrible.
Play the Dunn Club audio for LaFleur, says Ken. We can't! This is the thing, folks. You don't get to today. Be like, I'm happy he was extended, and then today want to fire LaFleur.
He got the extension. The point of no return was after last year when they lost five in a row, including blowing a 21-3 lead to the Bears in the playoffs. That's when you fire LaFleur. He's a lame duck. You have a new team president, everything lined up.
It's the least amount of blood on your hands. If if Ed Policy is the HOH of Lambeau Field. He can get very little blood on his hands by firing LaFleur after five losses in a row, including a playoff Luds to your rival. And And He's up as a lame duck. And you're new.
Put your stamp on the organization. Instead, you looked at LaFleur and said, I love this mediocrity. I want it to continue. I love what you're doing. I want it to stay the same.
Man, look this. There should be no eye awakening moment. If if today is the first day you like see it. Oh, I get it now. I get what Bart's saying now.
This is it! This has been it! This is him! Bad decisions, one step forward, two steps back, no confidence. The team doesn't believe in you.
You don't believe in yourself. Matt LaFleur doesn't believe in himself. It's terrible. This is just terrible. What more do you dumb fuck Packer fans need to see?
Matt LaFleur killed our franchise. He d I that that is I mean, kill it. Yes. We're not dead. We're not dead.
The franchise is not dead. But Matt LaFleur certainly killed what I think it means. be a Green Bay Packer. You know, we had Ray Roads for one year. This isn't working.
I'll get rid of them. We and Mike Sherman, eventually you knew that was bad. Matt LaFleur is not the right guy to coach any team, much less this one. Matt LaFleur should be the coach of a team like his brother. His brothers over his brothers taking over a shit team.
In Arizona. Did they end up winning today? That would knock out. a lot in the uh survivor pool. Yeah, they won.
The whole NFC North also won. Except for one fucking team, us. Man LaFleur Has infected this team because what the LaFleurs are. What they should be is guys that take over a meddling team. That have very Little Super Bowl aspiration.
Cause if Mike LaFleur If Mike Lafleur takes the Cardinals to like 10 and 7. And a playoff appearance, and then his fight, like if that's the best he does in five years and then moves on, they're gonna look at Mike LaFleur's 10 year as a success. And I'm telling you, that's the best these LaFleur guys can do. They are not Super Bowl coaches. They can't do it.
They can't do it. And so If you're taking over a team that has no expectations and you do what LaFleurs are capable of doing, they're going to look like heroes. But if you take over teams that are title town and they do what they are doing. It's going to be a massive disappointment. Matt LaFleur can't do it.
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Drew. Yeah. How do you really feel? I feel like shit. I'm with you, man.
You know, I. I know you've been on this fire LaFleur train for quite some time, and I'm with you now, 100%. I am now. Yes, now I am with you. You weren't after the Bears, and you're with me now.
I I I've I've Been on, like, you know, treading it a little bit, but now today, I'm done with it. I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous. It's just, it truly is. Same old, same old.
I have to interview Bo Melton tomorrow. What am I going to ask him? What does it matter? Do you want to promote where you're interviewing him, Drew? At Fat Joe's in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin.
Give me more. Give me station, show, give it all. You can watch it, or you can listen to it at 96.1, or you can watch it live, streamed at. Um radio plusinfo.com. Radio plusinfo.com.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's bringing an offensive lineman, which you guys still didn't change that name of that website, huh? You can go to 961 the rock.com, but it'll bring you to radioplusinfo.com.
So, like, I'm just like cutting corners here and telling you just go that one. Um, don't ask me, man. I'm just the guy that's asking questions. But it's Craig Thompson's also joining us. Craig, are you here or where'd you go?
Hashtag pissed. Yeah, he's just pissed. All right, when Craig comes back, I'll get him. I'm I do it. I'm just like.
Oh, there he is. Hey, Craig. I thought this would be an easy victory, but it was not. Drew, can you? What's that, Craig?
Craig. Can you hear me? Yeah, you sound great. You hear me? Mm-hmm.
Fucking day. All right, Craig's phone sucks. Greg, are you there? Last chance? yeah you got me do you hear drew talk that's three i thought i can hear drew but i can't hear both All right, Drew, can you interview Craig for a second?
I have to come back in. I have to go get my phone charger or my computer charger. I can jab for a little bit if you need me to. I can wing it as best as I possibly can. Just bitch about.
Can you? Yes, absolutely. This is my friend Drew. We used to work together and he's in radio and. Craig, I'm going to bring you in.
I need to go get a computer charger. All right. Can you hear me, Craig? Drew, can you hear me?
Well, I can't hear you. Your mouth is moving, but I can't hear you. All right, so that's got to be, that might be a BART problem if you guys can't hear each other. What the fuck? You guys can hear me?
Yeah, Craig, just hang on a minute. Just do 90 seconds. You got it. I got this.
Okay. So. I have to interview Bo Melton tomorrow. He's bringing a guest, an O-lineman. I can't think of who it is off the top of my head.
It's tough after a Packer loss to one, promote the show and try to get people excited about it because it's like it's the same old story. The last game we watched last season. It was choke city. First game this season, choke city. We truly should have.
This should have been an easy win. You have a team that doesn't really have an established quarterback, and then fucking Carson Wentz rolls up and just dismantles us. We would have been better off. We would have been better off with Kyler Murray not getting injured, and we probably would have been just fine. This is such bullshit, Craig.
Craig. All right, can you hear me? Yes. I didn't hear you.
Okay, first of all. I'm going to start with this. Wasn't very happy when I first saw that we were playing Minnesota first game of the year at Minnesota. Not real happy. Wanted to get a couple games in before we played the North.
That being said, secondly, not upset that we did take the points off. And we didn't. Can we? went for that four-time question but cough. I mean, Tucker Kraft is running wide fucking open down the middle all game.
What? We couldn't slip him out into the flat? On that little and maybe score there, I don't know. But the thing that really that Makes me that I watch it. This is the last time you'll see me because I'm quit watching NFL after that roughing of the passer.
Because you know goddamn well that they're going to cut that fucking clip out and they're going to send it to all 32 teams and say, hey, This is how you properly need to tackle that situation, but yet we get fucked. Just like when Clay Matthews used to get fucked on those roughing the pastor calls that never were roughing the pastor. And then on top of that. Our team It's fucking soft. And why are they soft?
Because we have a bottom for a head coach.
Okay. That is why we're soft. We're not going to do a goddamn thing because our team is soft. Doesn't matter. Do we dump that?
Do we dump it? I don't know. She would dump it. She would dump it. And then by the time we didn't dump it.
But it's fucking horrible. But that's. Is there a thing under bottom? Is there like another? I don't believe twink maybe, I don't know.
Eddie says, oh my God, you guys look like average Packer fans. We are. Yeah, fuck you. Yeah, of course. What did you expect, you fucking knob?
We're from Wisconsin. We're chubby men. We have beards. This is it. This is what you get.
Wait. What do you think we're fucking? What do you think you're fucking catching the San Francisco 49ers poll scheme? Plan review says who is the bearded lady at the bottom? I bet you don't feel so good if you knew Craig was...
Dying! You probably don't even, you probably can't even grow a beard like Craig. Craig, you have a luscious beard. I appreciate it. That guy can suck an ass too.
He's probably the fucking, he's probably the lead fucking. The lead dude at the circle jerk at his fucking local bar. Hey, I like seeing you in your home, though, and not the hospital. Yeah, that feels good to be home for a change. Yeah.
Yeah, I know. I mean, are you doing good? Yeah, feeling pretty good.
Okay. Yeah, feeling good. Except for the I want to ask now that I used your death to make a joke. Yeah, well, it was. The neighbor came to find out what was going on.
They thought I was having a heart attack and they're like, you might die. And I was like, I'd rather be fucking dead than to watch the rest of this fucking Packer game because I watched them fold like a goddamn house of cards. God damn it, they're fucking soft. Just like him, just fucking walks around with his little fucking... iPad in his goddamn hand not doing a fucking thing.
People think I'm drunk. You're just, you're just, you're passionate. That's what it is. People always say like I'm like, people always go, oh, Drew, you're such a negative Nancy when it comes to the Packers. It's like, I feel like I'm a little bit of a realist.
In that, and I think you are too, Bart. I think that. No, I don't think you're drunk. I haven't had a drink in two months. Oh, really?
All I drink is happy playtime Seltzer's promo code BART because I need to mellow down. I'm not gonna put fucking shit in my body that's gonna make me more hyper. Yeah. I'm fucking drunk with anger. Drunk on knowledge.
Goddamn right, Ben. Goddamn fucking right. I did have some drinks during the game. That was the highlight of my.
Well, you're not a drinker, you're a connoisseur. Correct. Beers and bourbon. I enjoy them. Cool.
What kind of bourbon are you into? Ah, dude, I love it all. I had some uh It's in 1792 and I had a little bit of Penelope the Takaje rye. During the game? That was good.
That's good. That those are some um have you ever tried Basil Hayden? Yeah, delicious. I love Basil Hayden. That's probably at the top of the list.
It brings me more joy than a week one loss against the Minnesota Vikings, blowing a lead and everything like that. What are you going to ask Bo Melton tomorrow? Dude, I don't know. Like, I was going to ask him, like, I was going to touch on, like, hey, you had a pretty. You should ask him if he actually had cramps or they pulled him out 'cause he actually did something on a kick return and they didn't know how to fucking handle it.
Yeah. I was gonna talk to him a little bit or try to talk to him a little bit about like kind of like What's it like? You know, you get cut, you get put on the practice squad, you're back on the roster. Like, it just seems like a weird kind of move and a weird kind of. Just like systematic.
type of thing that they seem to have a plan to do. No, don't ask him about it. Just ask him why. Like, you did all right. You did okay.
You had some good stuff. I would ask him. I think I would come. I would think, and it's just, I would settle on, like.
Something about, man, you know, you're so excited for the season, and then you got to open on the road. Talk about like that, you know, the crowd and shit like that. And then I would also talk about Like, that was a tough loss. In a way, though. If it's going to happen at the beginning of the season, like, is there some sort of?
What do you, how quickly do you put the loss behind you? Is there stuff you can take from it? Because it happened so early. I would just. You know, it's after fucking radio.
You gotta. Every negative is a positive. I guess when I'd be like, I'd be like, seriously. Honestly, Tony. LeFleur doesn't have the have the locker room does he Yeah, I mean, I wish you could be like, when did you know when you signed with the team, when did you know that your coach wasn't it?
How do you guys reconcile that fact that you have a good enough roster? To contend, but your coach cost you three games a season, this being the first. Right. I'm gonna there's no I'm so glad this game ended. And I'm also going to bring in downtown Billy.
Downtown Billy, what's up? I got Drew, Craig, Billy. I'll just finish my point, get the billy, and then keep going. But they're so. Many like things that Matt LaFleur does.
That have led to this moment. And to this time. And I don't want to continue to be somebody that just. Rags on him and shits on him, and it's exhausting for me. And I don't like doing this.
But I care about this team more than Ed Policy does. Clearly, it's just When people were asking me, like, how do you feel about the team? I'm like, well, I like Jordan Love, but I don't like LaFleur. And my, it's not a dislike of LaFleur, even though that is strong. I'm not picking against the Packers or thinking like.
I'm still 10 and 7. I'm still 9 and 8. I'm still playoffs. but I can't do anything more than a first round. Appearance because of Matt LaFleur specifically.
He's just, it's just like, it's like, would you go swimming? Oh, I would love to swim in that pool, but there's no water in it. Like, I can't. There's a pool, but it's empty. I can't swim in there.
I know how to swim. I want to swim. I can't. There's no water. I can't.
Say the Packers will win a Super Bowl if Matt LaFleur's there. He's in the way of ever having that thought and I'm just I'm gonna fucking 17 Drupal down. On how I feel about that. Billy, what do you got to say? Nice hat.
Hey, thanks Bart. Thanks for having me on. I wanted to hop on because I had a couple thoughts during the game. The first one was the fourth and five early on in the game when they were on midfield. And Matt LaFleur ended up deciding to punt.
I thought they should have gone for it there because, worst-case scenario, the Vikings get the ball at midfield, they storm down, they score a touchdown, and they make a one-score game, still a one-score game. Um I thought they for sure should have gone for it there. And then when they kicked the field goal and Matt decided to stay on the field, take the points off the board and go for it, I thought that was a great call. And I thought he finally grew some hair on his nuts there. But what really bothered me is the Vikings drive there when the Packers had three third down stops and all three times the reps found a reason to have the Vikings keep the ball.
I think that really killed all the momentum and all the confidence that the Packers had. I don't really put that on Matt LaFleur. I mean, what can you do there, right? I don't either, but I would, I would. Question this.
Some with referees, and I don't know at the NFL level, obviously, but. Having ref and being around refs in different you know sports, whatever. If Matt LaFleur was more like on their ass about stuff. Ah. They don't referees don't like being yelled at, okay?
I wonder if he just sits there and takes every bad call, and he might go, but he never likes. No one's afraid of them. Yeah, there might be people that are like, I Okay, I can't. I tested the boundaries on Andy Reid too much today or something, or Bill Belichick. But LaFleur, what's he going to fucking do?
Bitch, cry? He's a piece of shit.
So I don't know. I don't think so. I wonder bigger picture. There's too many little things or real things that happened to criticize rather than me fake up a new one. But back of the head, that's what I'm thinking, Billy.
Go on. Sure. I think since that Vikings drive, I think the PAC has really lost all confidence. I mean, I know I sure did. And I really don't blame Jordan or Matt LaFleur for anything that happened after that fact because everything was sucked out of the game and it felt like that the script had been flipped and that the Vikings were going to win the game regardless of what the Packers did.
regardless of what they dialed up. I mean, it was a shame that the offensive line couldn't hold their own for Four fucking plays, but it is what it is, you know. Like, uh, offensive line was so terrible. Offensive line was horrible, but at the same time, they're all in different positions, they're all playing different positions, except from. Formerly known as Zach Tom, you know.
What do you expect out of those guys? They're doing their best they can against one of the best defenses in the league.
So, does this totally change your guys, all three of you? Are your feelings on 2026 changed already because of this? If you got the Jets next week, if we win, we're one and one. Let's go from there. Because I am.
This is the same shit. It's the same shit. Nothing's different. And if Micah Parsons, some people. And God bless him.
But some people are going to say, well, we can't judge the Packers on a hole until Micah Parsons is back. Oh, you know what Micah Parsons is going to do when he comes back? He's just going to be another guy that's going to get penalized for doing Jack shit wrong on the fucking third down.
Okay. That's what Micah Parsons are going to do. Oh, yeah. Oh, and I also forgot that. If I have to listen to fucking JJ Watt anymore, like, oh my god, that was another one I almost wanted to eat a bullet on.
I'm surprised. I'm surprised that yes. CBS just didn't see that. I'd like to post Greg Olson. Mm-hmm.
I'd like to think it like the season where Were they opened against The saints. And they got completely obliterated. I don't know how long ago that was. I don't remember. Um, where they just got destroyed, and then they had a pretty good season.
Um, I don't think they made it in the playoffs, but it was it was they showed some promise. I'd like to think this is what that's going to be this year. Um. I don't know, man. Like, I.
They just look so rusty. O-line was horrible. We couldn't make like effective passes when we really need them. We had some clutch ones. Watson looked all right, but I just.
I don't know. I have a pessimistic view when it comes to Wisconsin sports, anyways, that I. I don't know. I just had a bad feeling. Game.
I really did. Drew, you're getting a little chappy. I'm going to let you go.
Okay. Good luck with Bo Melton. Let us know how it goes. Yeah, good luck, man. Thank you.
That's fine. Maybe I'll talk to you. I'll follow up with you this week.
Sounds good. See ya. All right, we'll talk to Drew later this week. I want to give a shout out to Monica. Left a fiver.
Matt LaFleur couldn't coach a wet dream. This team will be above 500 despite him. We are screwed. Can I lose you again? Are you fucking kidding me?
Sorry. All right, I'm out because I can't hear you again, Bart. Um so You guys have a good week and Maybe I'll be back. Maybe not.
So, talk to you guys later.
Well, you said you're quitting on NFL. I hope that's not. Uh the case. Billy, any more thoughts from you? Yeah, Bart, just to answer your question, I mean, uh, this was just more the same, I mean.
I have a hard time chalking this loss up to Matt LaFleur, but at the same time, this was just more the same of what we saw from him in the playoff game against the Bears. What we saw that last, that the regular season, the last regular season Bears game, it's just more of the same.
So I have a hard time thinking that we're gonna get anything different. Um I'm I'm expecting uh a a wild card playoff berth and a fundamental breakdown in uh in the team in the playoffs. I just, I'm mad about the thing about the LaFleur stuff. Like, I'm happy. If people see what I've seen, I don't.
I want it to continue where it's like, what don't they see? What don't they see? I'd still rather have that back and forth. But if more people see what I see. then that's just more maddening that he's here.
I don't understand. I'm seeing a lot of like anti-Lafleur stuff. From people who have Like, okay, I got I. This is the same shit that happened in a playoff game. Against the bears, and you were fine with an extension then, and now game one against the Vikings, it's too late.
You made your dinner, dude. This is what's on your plate. You got to eat it now. It's too fucking late. No take backs.
You extended them. You ate it.
So Fuck, this is stupid and it sucks. It very much is. There's two silver linings that I'm holding onto here. The first one on the Viking side of things is. This is the equivalent to their Super Bowl.
I live in Minneapolis. I work with all of Vikings fans, and I've been berated with texts in the last 30 minutes to an hour. And I've said that as much. I'm like, I'm really happy for you guys. You guys won your week one Super Bowl, and this is the closest you're gonna get to holding a Lombardi trophy.
That's great. The other silver lining I'm holding on to is that I'm holding out hope that the front office really wakes up to their senses. and sees that Malaflor is not he's not the kind of coach that can get this team to a Super Bowl. And Mike Tomlin is a free agent. And I really hope that they're able to bring someone like him in as a head coach here.
Mm-hmm.
Billy, I appreciate you. I'm going to keep shuffling. More people can join in, but good to see you and sorry about where you live. Thanks, Bart. Appreciate it.
Downtown Billy, you know, Minnesota sports fans. I just wish that they. I don't. I don't like that Minnesota sports fans are the way they are. Like Chicago sports fans.
We fight with them all the time. But you know those people love their teams. And they are like Chicago is a great American sports town, certainly. Um I don't like that this new Chicago era is acting like things that are happening only happen to them. Like, oh my God, our quarterback threw a Hail Mary.
That's never happened before. It has. Oh my God, PCA's 40 home runs. This is crazy, guys. PCA, well, that's happened before, too.
Oh, my God. Our athletes like each other. That's happened before, too. I'm glad it's happening for you and you're enjoying it, but let's not talk like this is the first time it's ever happened. Detroit.
Man, Detroit's just sad sacked. These are hardworking people.
Okay, over at Sandusky Motors or wherever the fuck they're getting their brake pads from, but that. That is a sports town too. Minnesota. It's just culture ripped off from other cultures. The fucking gophers shit is ripped off from what Fleck was doing at the old job in Michigan.
The Vikings just rip off. Oh, did Norway do something cool? Did Scotland do something cool? Did anyone that uses that kind of Viking font do something cool? Guess what?
We're doing that now, too. That's fucking annoying. Drum, skull, it's all fucking stolen. Your 10,000 lakes are stolen from us. We have more.
Okay. And you just seem like your whole culture is like wannabe, Wisconsin. And want to be The fucking Finlands and Scotlands and uh Scandinavia or whatever they call that part of the globe. It's just, it's just, it's, I just don't understand how you could grow up. Like I know telling my kid, or not telling my kid, but indoctrinating him in a Packer household, it's going to be a lot of shitty moments.
But if you're a Viking fan, like. If I was a Viking dad. If I was a Vikings fan and had a kid, I would tell him. Like somebody else. Don't like the Vikings.
And in fact, I would say, like the Packers or Bears or Lions. I would not be doing a good job as a father if I raised you. To be a Viking fan. The best I can do for you as a father is to tell you to like another team. That's the greatest gift I can give you.
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Ben is joining us. Rocking the green headset. Ben, look like Looking like an alien. You look good. What's up?
I do have a house divided, so I am raising my kids as Packer fans, but.
So that's the greatest, one of the greatest gifts I can give them.
Well that's good. Unfortunate.
Well, you have a you have a house divided too, right? Yeah. Or, no, your wife's not a Bears fan? I thought, or her family.
Well, no, I guess I do have a house divided. I have a house divided in the sense. That I have a house divided in the sense that my wife grew up in Illinois. Move to Green Bay. Got swept up as a Packer fan.
Uh, when they won the Super Bowl, married me, big Packer fan, but then. Along the way, like I will tell you. She knows the house divided is me loving the Packers and her not wanting anything to do with football because watching Packer games with me is such a horrible experience. It really is. It was bad for the longest time because I would take notes.
during the game because I didn't want to Not meet the moment on my shows on Milwaukee Radio with Freemes.
So I'm taking notes during the game. It's no fun to watch with me. And like, even today, I watched with her for a little bit, and then I just started going crazy in the fourth quarter. And then I'm getting mad that, like, I just My brain, I said this earlier. My brain is on fucking fire during these games.
Everything feels disjointed. I feel like I'm in that weird painting where all the stairs go the same way, but different ways. That is, and I don't know if that's an anxiety thing or there's too much information because right now I'm like. I'm like not caught up on the day. I don't like that there's all this shit that happened that I don't know about.
I'm not caught up on football. I'm not caught up on fantasy. I'm not caught up on my fucking. Game where I match vegetables together to get higher levels of vegetables. I'm not caught up on any of that shit.
And so my brain's on fire.
So, yes, our house is divided. Short answer long. I love the Packers, and my love for the Packers has ruined my wife's. Yeah, that's. I believe it.
I can see that being a thing. But you asked me what my thoughts were. It was like we were in a time warp or an alternate reality in the second half again. I don't know what was going on. And I think my biggest problem with this team is we had a week one game.
And not a single question that we had coming into the season was answered. Our running game was bad. Our O-line is bad. Our kicker missed an extra point. I mean, I thought he had a good game.
I'm not going to like harp on the guy, but it did. Kind of like influenced the flow of the game. Like it felt like Minnesota was more willing to try and take chances because it was an uneven an unbalanced score. But we just imploded. I couldn't believe it.
I mean, I, yeah, I really can't believe it. I thought that maybe, maybe this. Christian Watson show was going to continue in the second half and it didn't. No, and there's a lot of good. Like, I suppose I could say some good things, but.
I mean, why? Yeah, that's right. There was a lot of questions about week one. Um you could see why Lafleur wants Jacobs. back so badly and why you won't like Just say that, hey, what he did was bad.
Or allegedly. Unfortunate situation. It's an unfortunate situation that every time I do a stream, I pit out like crazy. That's an unfortunate situation. Yeah, that's a lot of people.
Having to go to court because of an altercation with a woman. And now you can't play because of it. That's not an unfortunate situation. It's a life-altering. You're dealing with the repercussions of your actions.
Yeah, that's that's different. But I The offensive line is terrible. I mean... Monk, one time they just pick one. I mean, there's two guys coming.
Get the closest guy, the inside guy, work out. I don't understand. how you let both people go by you Unblocked. I mean, love was hit a lot. I'm glad he came out of the game, hopefully, relatively healthy.
He didn't look like he got injured in any. like significant fashion. But you can't more weeks of this. I don't know how he makes it through the season. I don't know where, and so I, there's some weird thing I.
get involved with where When I yell about Lafleur. People get mad at me. Because that means I'm team goody. And I'm not. It's like I can't say I'm mad at A.
I have to say I'm at A, but also B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, like, I got. And I am more, I do think Goody, there's a lot of good that Gouda Kinst has done. Moving on from Rogers, the time he did it. That's a W, no matter what Rogers thinks. Parsons is a W.
There's a lot of W's. Um to start a game. With Donovan Jennings as your left guard. I mean, we gotta do better than that. I don't even know if they're going to stay in the same Jordan Morgan, Donovan Jennings, Sean Ryan, Jacob Monk.
Zach B B I can't pronounce his last name anymore, so. That's what I wanted to hop on and just have a couple comments, you know. Great. Uh little uh Appearance on WISN 12. Really appreciate you posting that because I miss the news from time to time.
So nice to see that. You gotta really voice some opinion and takes on the airwaves.
Well, what I told the news was, I think LaFleur sucks. Yeah, it's great. It caught her by surprise, definitely. I mean, Are you wrong though? Like, we're 0-6 in our last six games.
Yeah, we haven't won since the first week of December. How is that not fireable? Here's the problem I have with. The Packers taking points off the board. I I don't have Packers Yeah.
It always stings a little more when you actually see the points. Like we had the points. But they were they took the so once you take the fourth and one That's it. You gotta not worry about the points.
So Matt LaFleur, I think, made the right decision. And I think Madda Fleur feels like He made the right decision.
Okay. But then it felt like after he felt like he made the right decision. There was a sense of Oh shit, now what do I do? Like, I only prepared to get this far. I don't have a play for this.
What's the play? Everyone says I'm conservative. Everyone says I don't step on the throat. I don't want to make a one-score game, a one-score game again.
So I know the decision to make here, and I'm going to make the right decision. Then he's good then he's like Oh, I actually like. I never planned for this. I never planned for the girl to say yes to a date.
Now, what do I do? Like, where do I take her? How do I not cream my jeans when she hugs me right away? How do I have the stamina to stay all night? I'm not expecting this.
Once I get to this moment, how could I fucking not? If you're a first-year coach and you have a hard time. with the hug and everything but Now we're in what year eight and We're going downhill. I we We're not making a change. I mean, this is a lame duck season, like you've been saying, and I hope we can.
I have a winning record, but I I I I don't know. I'm 8-9, 7-9, I think, is what I think we're at. I don't think Parsons is going to rush back if we're going to play like this. Even if Matt LaFleur had a play call.
So if Matt LaFleur has a play call. that he likes on fourth and one. And then he sends it in, and Jordan Love doesn't like it based on the look. And then goes to a j I don't know what happened, but. If that's gonna happen, you've gotta have a play call.
Like you have to have a play call and what? You got to have a play call. You got to have a play call for that situation. There shouldn't be any play that you call that your quarterback thinks, ah, this isn't going to work. Or if that's the case, call the timeout.
So If like call the time out. If LaFleur saw love, check out of something that he didn't like, call the fucking timeout. And if love doesn't like something, call the fucking time out. I Matt LaFleur is the coach of this team. That's okay.
That's yes, I agree. And so, Matt LaFleur ultimately is responsible for everything that happens. Let me tell you this. I'm going to talk a little bit out of school here, perhaps. Perhaps, but I want to give an example about how I view coaching.
Okay. And keep in mind: the coaching I'm doing right now is eight-year-old soccer. But there was a time. Recently, where on defense, we had some kids that are not as good as defense. Um, and together, like it, it it was a, it wasn't our best, like, lineup for the moment, okay.
And what I told one of my coaches is. I said If there's a situation of our players. Where, oh, that guy's not good enough on defense.
Now he has to play, and we shouldn't have two kids out there together because of what. That's not on them. That's on us to coach that into them.
So that's on us to make sure that they are able to play. That's on us. And that's eight-year-old soccer.
So. News flash alert to all the other eight-year-old soccer coaches out there. I'm not coaching to win games. If we win a game based on how we coach, that's great. But I'm coaching for these kids to be ready for the situations that they're going to see.
I'm not, oh, this guy's not good on defense. I'm going to move my other kid back there. No, everyone's playing what you got to play because we're learning the game. I just, I just believe. That the buck should always stop at the coach.
If a player gets out of line, it's on the coach to reel him in. If a player is not, Having a good time with a decision over and over again, it's on the coach. If the coach is watching the player do something that they don't like, and you still have the capability to get in and make something happen, if you're the coach and you can call timeout, it ultimately is going to fall on you. I know all the players know the did LaFleur. Throw the interception.
Did Coach Bud go two from nine shooting at the rim? Did Pat Murphy take the called strike three? No, no, and no, but yes, yes, and yes. You are the coach. What else is the point of having a guy whose job it is to be in charge of everybody if you're not going to be in charge of everybody?
I do value the coach more than any, maybe anybody else. I don't know. I feel like I'm the only one who just fucking. Sees that sometimes, but The coach always, the buck always stabs at the coach. Yeah.
Hell yeah. Lafour. He doesn't know how to play from ahead, and he doesn't know how to play from behind. He can only get the lead and then try and manage the game, and then it all falls apart. There's no plan.
I said earlier, I don't think he can go up three scores because he thinks like he's going to be haunted by some evil demon at night. Yeah. Well, I gotta roll. Um Go Pat Go still But Could have had a better day. Please.
Yeah, peace out. Ben joining us. If anybody wants to get in. Uh the link Yeah. Should we look at some stats?
Do you want to know how this game went? I think, look, the Jordan Love stuff, I am a much bigger believer on Jordan Love than a lot of other people. He did throw a pick late, they were down from behind, it went off somebody's hands. I will I'm going to make excuses for Jordan Love. I'm going to make excuses for Jordan Love because I think sometimes excuses have to be made, because I think sometimes you're criticizing him for things that.
He shouldn't be criticized for, or you have this expectation on him. That he is not. And Like you, you're watching him. as if he's MVP Rogers or MVP Favre. And he's not there yet.
He's not there yet, and I've never said he was there. But I do think that he's getting there and he can be there. But if you're. I I just the problem is LeFleur. Le Fleur, Le Fleur, Le Fleur.
And I'm not going to dissect everybody else. Until it's on LaFleur. Lab Malifloor is the problem. He's been the problem. He continues to be the problem.
Rogers and McCarthy are one and all. Tim Shea is joining us. Sick at home. Yeah. Oh boy, you sound sick.
Yeah, I am. What's wrong, buddy? I got a cold. You got a cold? Really bad cold.
Did you have a vacation last night? Mm no. No. That didn't even happen. You couldn't even go to the Badger game you're fucking loves.
Yeah. Newsflash, I didn't watch a single second of it. Oh.
Well, you didn't miss much. They won. Great. I watched Ohio State choke Matt LaFleur style. Boy, that was Matt LeBron.
Oh, and dude, Oregon's ass. Uh you didn't even you didn't even text me Big Ten Saturday night, which I usually get ever like If I don't hear from you all week. I know during the football season I'll at least hear from you on Saturday. I know. That is a bad that because I actually was for the most part.
I was texting a little bit with Carlos. We'll talk to him tomorrow. He's watching Giants, Cowboys. But I was texting with Carlos Ortiz. And I said, I'm watching this Iowa, Iowa State game.
And then they played the Big Ten song, and I was, I was, I was, I like, had my phone up to text you. I don't know. Like, you didn't even text me. And I got a little when I was going to, and then I didn't. I was so sick that someone said, Which game are you at tonight?
I said neither. I'm sick. They said, prove it. I send a picture of my TV in my bedroom, and they're like, oh shit. He is really sick.
Hmm, yeah.
So feel free.
Well, thanks for being strong enough to come and give me a few moments.
Well, that's what I'm here for. What's up, brother? What do you think? I I tried. I tried to give...
I almost said McCarthy. I tried to give LaFleur the benefit of the doubt and saying, all right, going for it, being aggressive. That's what he did say in his post-game comments as well. Trying to be aggressive. And he not only did he say, trying to be aggressive, we're going to be aggressive all year.
Great, whatever. All right. You couldn't stop him. You took the points off the board. And then it was just a shit show from there on out.
Like, I tried. Like, can, is there a chance? Is there a way they can fire a coach after week one? I know it won't happen. But no no no, Tim.
That this is the problem, they made their bed. Like This was their decision. They extended him. Yeah, I know. The extension is a sign of confidence.
The extension is. The extension is a landing spot for him. It's a soft landing. The extension is, you can have these kinds of games. There will be no repercussions.
This guy can't coach a football game unless it's meaningless against his brother.
Okay. This guy, the most he's gotten up for a football game in this losing streak was against his brother. in a game that didn't fucking count. And then the minute he gets into the real battle. You can't fucking win.
I'm I'm Like, oh, okay. Oh, well, they got the Jets next week. I don't know. I agree with you. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. You are 100% correct. The Japanese offensive line. No running backs.
Jaden Reed dropped a gimme touchdown. Or at least a good 50-yard. Yeah, he didn't even coach against his brother. He gave it to the glove. The the The Jets actually look like a team today.
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So yeah, I don't know. I don't even know what to Thinker, do or say or I just I I thought once Murray went out. I thought this was a slam dunk win.
So Kyler Murray's out. I'm thinking, why the fuck isn't J.J. McCarthy in this game? He was the third string. Did he even dress, or was he the third string?
He was the emergency quarterback. Yeah. Which we knew when J.J. Watts spoiled it. And I don't have a lot of.
Um J J Watt was fine. I mean it's fine. I need I didn't have anything. I can handle a JJ Watt called football game. There's some things that he doesn't, that he does that I don't like.
Like they were talking about. Harrison Smith, who said his routine was to go back and forth and dunk 40 times in a row. And then and then Watts, like, oh, that's Jim Mance's routine. That kind of shit's stupid. That's golf shop old man.
Pants are down, dicks are out, locker room fucking jokes. That's that's that's dumb. But I thought JJ, I'm not. I don't like JJ Watt on Twitter. I don't like how he needs to be a part of everything, but JJ Watt is there.
And so JJ Watt is already there. JJ Watt did a fine job. I'm not going to let, I don't, I'm trying to not let my. I need to be a part of everything, attention. What I'm you know, talking about him as a broadcaster.
So, I think he was fine. I think he's still corny and whatever, but I think he was good insight.
So, I don't. JJ Watt, I'm not the issue today. I don't have to be really psycho about JJ Watt if I need to bitch about JJ Watt. Mala Fleur is who I'm psycho about. Malaflur is who I'm psycho about.
Tim fucking either died or have disappeared. Everybody on the Stream. Z Fly says Ed policy is running this proud franchise into the ground. I just don't understand. Why policy would come in here?
With With The Opportunity. to make a change right away. And not do it. Like, if you're ever going to fire a coach, firing a coach sucks. You don't want to have to do it if you don't want to.
It's hard. You don't want to do it. But if you're ever going to do it. Again, the time you're going to get the least amount of blood on your hands is when he's lost five in a row. And he's a lame duck.
And you are a new president. You can easily come in, Cam Scataboo, shout out, fantasy. You can easily come in. And Tim's back. You can easily come in.
and fire him and Ed Policy seems like he didn't even think about it. Which to me To me, and this is what I've said all summer. It does nothing but tell me the Packers know what they're getting in MatlaFleur, and they are okay with it. The Packers are okay with this kind of game because they're paying for it. They want this.
This is what they do. This is what they'll get. It's like I go to the store. Every time I buy an apple, it turns rotten in a day. But what do I do?
I keep going to the store and buying the same apple from the same store. Why don't you either? Buy something different or go to a different store. By you continuing to go there, you're telling the store. You're fine with the process.
If I don't eat the apple within two days, it's gonna go rotten. But that's on me, it's not about you. Ed policy saw the floor and he says This is what we want. We're okay with this. We know it's right.
We like this experience. That's what I can't get my head over, Tim. I They're they're they yeah, I I I I it pains me to say this. But I after disagreeing with you for the last How can you disagree with me after the Bears game and then agree with me today? Because I just thought it was a bunch of luck.
for the Bears. in those two games in Chicago. But after watching today, because those two games in Chicago was the Panthers game, was the Browns game. He showed you this. I know.
It's just hard for me to swallow the my pain and my It's it's hard for me to say you were correct the entire time. Longest losing streak since 1991. How many is this now? Six? The Packers have lost six straight dating back to last season and including the playoffs, their longest losing streak since 1991.
They led, this is from Rob Domofsky, they led by more than one score, nine plus points in the second half of four of those losses. Denver, Chicago, Chicago today. Jesus. This is what the Packers signed up for. This is what they purchased more of.
This is criminal. What? I no, I'm just I. I I Like I said, it pains me to say you were correct this entire time. I should have Should I?
Why does it pain you? Because you were correct. Are you mad that it was me that was correct, or what I was correct about? I'm mad at both. You're mad that I was correct?
You're my friend. I know. You need to guide me in the right. way. Like Last year, I kept on telling you, it's a fluke.
It's the Bears were lucky. Love head. One of the greatest games of a quarterback that you could have in the playoffs. And you still saw through all that. If you asked an average person, Who's not like a Winklerverse member or likes anything I say or do or feel or act.
I think you act a random person. Ask a random person who's been aware of the Milwaukee sports radio scene. I will. I'll ask someone tomorrow. Go ahead.
Tell me what you're saying. There's three things they'll say about me. One of three things.
Okay. Or these three things. Oh, yeah, it was cute what he did with the parade chairs. I actually give him credit for that. I've heard a lot of people say.
Oh, okay, fine. How do you want me to ask this question? Do you know? No, not at all. Not at all.
The second thing is: God, that guy wouldn't shut the fuck up during COVID. He wouldn't shut the fuck up.
Okay. And then, and then the last one is. Oh, just yep, there you go. The last one is: oh, he fucking hates Matt LaFleur. And I'm right about all of 'em.
COVID killed millions of people. Since this team Have the Packers not lost six in a row? 19. Anthony Dillwig. I thought you were ringing up PBS.
My brother Mark Murphy. Oh, bar. You don't even want to know what just went through my head when you brought that up. Yeah. How many people died from COVID?
And then you bring that. pick the people of pictures of people.
Sorry. You thought I was memorializing? Yeah. You thought I had frames of people that died from COVID? I'm sorry, yes.
You are sick. I know. I apologize. You're a sick fuck. Keep going.
Jeff Query. Ed West. What year? 90, 91. But at least these guys had fucking look at this guy right here, Lindy Infante.
There we go. At least he was a fucking man. Let's just say, just for a second. All you people are worried about men in the WNBA. I wish we had a man to coach this fucking team.
All right, let's just say the Packers get that first down and score a touchdown and win the game. What's your narrative tonight? Oh, Matt LaFleur has got a big set of balls. He went for it on fourth down and one, took three points off. What are you saying?
I know you're going to bullshit this answer and say, well, it didn't happen. When they took the points off the board, I was writing a tweet. And I said, LaFleur, you're starting to see the vision. Let's go, baby. I'm glad you brought that up because I want to really be clear about this.
I'm rooting for LeFleur to succeed. My hatred of Matt LaFleur, I. Wasn't sure on this. I've talked with Paul and Grant about this, and I wasn't sure, but I am sure. I would rather be humiliated with this wrong take.
I want the Packers to win. I can't. I can't. I can't get that out of me. I want, I don't.
No, with Rodgers, I did root for the Packers to lose to the Dolphins. That was. That was how bad it got then. Right now, though, I am still. Is is Far as I'm in on LaFleur, I still want him to turn it around.
No one would love it more than me. If he figured it out and stopped pissing away leads, nobody. But I don't feel he's going to do that. I've already seen. I already know.
But you guys have to go through it and see it. You have to see three more years. People are like, they have the Bears game. Oh, I want to see what happens next year. Same fucking shit!
Well, that's what I said. That's what I said last year. Let's see what happens next year. Same shit. And then he comes out and says, Let Jo we're gonna let Jordan love cook.
Well, yeah, he finally let Jordan Love cook after Carson Wentz cooked. And you still lost. And you didn't lose, you just got murdered. The Carson Wentz. And now the Vikings Do you know the Vikings' entire trajectory of their season is going to be different based on today?
Oh, yeah. And Justin Jefferson, man, I wish I had that guy on our team. Nobody's more engaged during the game than him, and he cares. I think they went and got. JJ McCarthy, because they're like, we need something other than Kirk Cousins.
And they went and got Kyler Murray because they're like, well, now we need something other than JJ McCarthy because we can't be doing JJ dirty like this. They've got a guy that is An incredible wide receiver who is delivering at mass results, who is my son's new favorite player after he won his first fantasy game. ever today. One and oh in his career.
Sorry, Uncle Brock. Good job, little Bart. Good job, little bark.
So he'll be indebted to him forever. Kyron Williams, by the way, his first touchdown. What? I can't wait till he beats you. We play week nine.
Okay. Oh, wow.
So, only once this year. Yeah, I believe it's the week after Halloween. Oh, Halloween. Halloween. It's Halloween, not Halloween.
Halloween. It's Halloween. I also call it Christmas. Unlike you fucking heathens. All right, I'm thinking I'm gonna take off here now that we've come to this point.
Yeah, my second favorite team's on. I gotta watch them soon. Who the Cowboys? I don't like the Cowboys, but I like when they win and I root for them to do well. Ooh, they are dropping passes left and right tonight.
I'll tell you that right now. Are they going to get bailed out on a flag? Yeah, they are. Once again, I do want to talk about the refs for a second. Please.
A lot of bullshit calls there tonight. Roughing the passer. Dude, I saw Jordan Love get hit two or three times rougher than that happen. Roughing the passer should be like. You should have to call it like you call penalties and pick up basketball.
Like, call yourself. Like, yeah, I'm sorry, I came in late. Also, Dallas Turner did come in late on Jordan Love's head once. They did not get bailed out, by the way. the Cowboys.
They call that on the on the Cowboys, so Okay. Yeah. All right. Well, Tony says tail is old as time, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. No victim here says these losses hurt so much more because we are clearly beating ourselves.
What happened to Tony in Texas? Oh, he's a Grant boy now. He just calls Grant. I don't know where the fuck he is. I'm in a fantasy league with him, Tony.
He's still celebrating last night's Texas victory. Oh, he likes Texas? Oh, yeah, he's big arch manny. Which by the way He's gonna look good on the Browns next year. Is that your walking stick or talking stick?
What is that? I came late for the program. Yeah, um. Is that your MatlaFleur beat stick? Welcome to the resistance.
Okay. I am the shepherd of the resistance. I am leading you to brighter days.
Well, thank God now we have two games in four days coming up, so. That'll tell a lot. Oh fuck we do. All right, I gotta I'm gonna play some voicemails with people that called in and then Do you want me to stay or? Yeah, you can stay.
Yeah. All right, this is Dan. Dan. Has teamed up with a Winkler Verse. He is.
The man behind the drive.
So you can check out. I talked to him about that. I just hooked my parents up with one. And they'll be playing that.
So, the drive, a game to play during these games, if you want to at least have some fun. During these, you can check out more on the website. Here's Dan. Dan, I think you had two emails, but I just got one voicemail from you. Voicemail is brought to you by Carl's Place 402-915.
B-A-R-T. Hey, you're welcome back, buddy. Clean the drive.com. This is Dan. Hey.
Any of you watching this game? Holy cow. You talk about a fourth quarter meltdown, and there's a. There's one factor that continues to show up MLF. And what a roster.
Set Once again, for years. As not had. the difference offensive line. talent And our defense? Oh my God, look at how many points were scored.
Anywho. Play the drive. It's not as emotionally. Garring. as going on the road.
and losing to a playoff team. That as Carson Wentz. as his quarterback. You get the idea. Come for the game.
Hey for the party. Come for the party. And play the drive. PlaneDisrive.com. Dad, hey, he's partnering with the Winklivers.
He can call in and promote as much as he wants. Uh I got this one. I think a guy named Ben Caldun, Ben. Bart, Bart, this is the Gookie Monster, aka Ben.
So, yeah, let's talk about that. What a disaster. What a flipping disaster. And you could see it coming in the first half. Classic Matt LaPleur doesn't do enough.
They should be ahead by way more. They should have been ahead by three scores at the half. And nothing the refs could have done would have changed it then.
So. But yeah, I just don't know where we go from here. I've lost almost all faith.
Now, at this point, I am with you. Let's join the resistance. Lival resistance. Let's get Matt before out of here.
So. And yeah, I don't know. We're going to find out a lot. We're going to find out if this team has any guts or intestinal fortitude. Please like and follow me.
Hey, it's Ben IRL on X and YouTube. Goodbye, Bart. Keith being you, man. All right, thanks, Brad. Remember, he did the cookie monster and he sounded Spanish?
Yeah. That's what I think.
So, um Oh, I wanted to say some good things here. Jake. is here hot take He's out of the shower, bud? Yeah, yeah, a little late shower action. Christian Watton was six for a buck 47 and two scores.
Golden was six for 95. Yeah, he balled out. Tucker Kraft was three for 65. Jonathan Smith had that nice catch. That was exciting.
Yeah, I wish he was a little faster. Um we had 66 yards running. 3.1 yards a carry. We had a bunch of sacks. We had three sacks.
Tim, when John who got knocked down, like you knew that was gonna play a factor, right? It reminded me of, I think Eddie Lacey had like a touchdown, or no, it was someone against the 49ers in the playoffs, Aaron Jones. He like Yeah. Could have taken the sideline and scored a touchdown and he decided to like. Cut in and got knocked off.
Boom. Yep. They ended up getting a field goal and they lost by one point, two points. Yeah. It's like you could just see it coming with this team.
Not saying that would have made a difference, but. Oh my god. Yes. Our first positive comment of the stream. Roy says 12 penalties to three.
I know with home field advantage, the home team will get a few extra calls their way. But this mini is insane, so I'm not putting too much on one game. Packers will rebound. I feel like I feel like Matt LaFleur. brings it on.
Like Medlefleur not going. Or taking the points off the board. And then going for it. That would work out for everybody else. But because it's LaFleur.
It's not gonna, and then like he's punished. By the football gods. with all these penalties. The penalties were bullshit. There were so many ample times.
By the way. Carson Wentz. That's my thought.
Somebody wants to know why you always come out after the shower. Jake is podmogging us. I'm a busy guy, and I'm not going to be satisfied until one day I'm going to hang gong on this stream. Yeah. I think it's inevitable that one day I show my penis, also.
Yeah, we've talked about that. No, you know what? I wanted to really just quickly comment on one thing, Bart, because you were like. Talking to Tim about like Tim was upset that you were right. I have one friend who like He has it out for me.
So in every group chat. It's It's never LeFleur's fault. It's never.
So, like, my group trap buddies are all they want to talk about is love. Like, shut the up, yes, yes.
So, like, Today it was, this is 100% on Gouda Kunt. Love played terrible. How can you say this is about coaching? And it really is.
something about you that people In the world we live in today, I've said this a lot of times. People would rather be right. Then happy.
So they'd, and or they would rather have you be wrong about something than them be happy about something.
So like, I think that's all it is, buddy. Don't take it too personally. And there's also, there's no like, there's no glory in being first. Because, like, I feel like for years I've been telling people about LaFleur, and years before people started to see what was going on with Rogers, I was trying to tell them. And then like when you're vindicated, it just makes you more of an asshole.
Because you were the like harping on it, and it's like, oh, you know, yeah, I'm not, I'm not happy. People are like, oh, maybe it is LaFleur. I'm mad you weren't with me eight months ago. Right. Because we extend the extension part is so much of a factor of this.
Which is what I can't get over. They extended him. He lost five games in a row. A new president came in, and his first order of business was: I want more of that. Yeah, um that that really i think i i said going into this season i'm just not amped for football like I normally am.
And I think the reason for that is If the Packers aren't going to hold people accountable. Why should I care if they don't care? Like, why should I get emotional about the team or get upset about things when it's like, Yeah, it's not just the fact that, let's say, LaFleur had two years left on his deal. They brought him back to give him another chance. Like, you're getting an extension and a raise.
For basically Pissing everybody off. Like, not only did you lose to Chicago, it was embarrassing and heartbreaking. And, like, In that building, if you get rewarded for that, I think it kind of mirrors life because we've all been in jobs where, like, the shittiest people who suck ass at their jobs, you see them get promotions and stuff. because of all the wrong reasons.
So like, I think this is this is a lot of this is life. Like. LaFlore's got a nice haircut, good looking guy. He's safe at the podium. And I think policy, the timing was just off where he didn't want to make waves because all that matters in Green Bay is that they can keep making additions to.
Whatever they're calling the title town district, which is a fucking joke since they don't care about winning titles, anyways. Matt LaFleur at the podium. All right, I can't listen to this. I gotta go. I love you guys.
On the Packers' continued inability to finish. It's going to be a topic of conversation for all you guys until we do it. Here's Matt LaFleur explaining the decision.
So I'm going to pull this one up. Yes, Tim. No, I was just gonna say, it s looks like you're about to break that stick. I can't break the stick. It's fucking heavy duty.
All right, go ahead. Go with Lila. I don't have the Like documentation of it, but the guy I bought this from. Um I paid 300 bucks for the stick. He said it was handcrafted from the trees.
And one of those tribes that had no human contact with the outside world until the 1700s. My friend Scott Uti gave it to me for some reason, and I don't know why. If you have your stick, then I'm getting my stick out. Let's What is that? Oh my fucking god.
Yeah. All right. I just got one from Lafleur. I think that's just where we're. Be aggressive.
I mean, it was going to be an eight-point game. If it would have been a two-possession game, I probably would have thought otherwise. Um but You know, I thought we had a chance. We didn't do very well in the red zone. I think we were one of four.
Or Uh But that that sometimes you you You live and die by that, but we're going to be aggressive and we're going to. You ever notice coaches always like, why do we need to know your stats about the red zone? Just answer the question. We can look at the fucking stats online. That's the one I heard before I joined your show.
He just pa he pretty much said we're going to be aggressive this year and You live and die by it. Today we have Alex says we've gotten out, scored 55-9 in the second half, the last two games. Sitting on your ass, no adjustments. Bart is right on, but he looks like he's about three or four accessories away from looking like he's going to storm the Capitol. If you don't fucking think.
This ends. with anything other. Then on the five-year anniversary, six-year anniversary. of January 6th. I am storming Lambeau fucking field.
January 6th happens to be a Wednesday. I am storming. Fucking Lambeau Field. I am storming Lambeau Field. They have the Oh, the last game of the season.
When is it? January Oh, yeah, ninth, tenth. They don't know yet. It's one of those days. Folks If the Packers are going to miss the playoffs.
And Lafleur's still the coach. We are storming Lambeau on January 6th. I am one of the most important. Fucking hundred percent serious. I'm putting something in my calendar for like January 4th.
I'm storming! Fucking Lambo. We need you back on the radio, says Jake. This is it, folks. This is where we live now.
Yeah. Because I want to do shit like Storm Lambo on January 6th. And I can't do that if I'm making 18 bucks an hour down the street. Yeah. All right, Packers' next game is against the Jets.
I will have Carlos tomorrow. I will have Paul and Grant on. Tuesday, I will try to get back in touch with Drew, my old friend Drew, and he's got to interview Bo Melton tomorrow. I want to see how that went. Bears scored 59.
That was sick. Universal soul life balance is already storming. We're storming Lambo. You want to do a Winkler versus Tailgate in the winter? We're doing a Winkler versus.
Fucking coup. We're not gonna do anything when we get there. Oh, maybe, maybe I'm gonna go take a shit in Ed Policy's desk. And I'm going to walk out with the podium that they fucking talk at on post games. And the big associated bank sign, and then I'm going to have that right behind me when I do fucking pods.
Yeah. We're storming Lambo. Alright, just remember you can buy your Tim Shea pins, TimShea.com. Volume here. What the fuck does that say?
Well slap my shamrock and call me a leprechaun. Yeah, Tim, you do not like you are from this earth. I think.
Okay. Walking sticks required. I might be joining you for your post-game pod on Thursday at the home opener outside the Potawatomi Sportsbook gate, by the way. When next week? No, when the Packers first home game in in a week and a half.
Tim and I are gonna Watch a game with somebody at Pod, alright? I guess, yes. Yeah, we're going to finalize those details. All right. Thanks for being here.
Sorry, it's under these circumstances.
Well, plenty to push out throughout the week. As always, thanks for stopping. Fuck LaFleur into the Winklerverse. Go Brewers Magic Number Two.
