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alongside. It's our Monday National Perspective Show. We are in the Dead of summer. And I wouldn't call it a. I wouldn't call it a pre-show meeting.
But I just told you. one minute ago in real time. I said, I don't really got much. And you said, I got nothing. Yeah.
Unless you want to talk about the warriors hiring global. I mean, I got nothing. You want to talk about Connor McGregor? I mean Not really, but is anybody surprised? The dude hasn't fought in five years.
Like all these old fighters are all. Having seemingly having money troubles because they're certainly not doing it for the fucking love of the game. But yeah, McGregor gets hurt on the very first kick. All right, well. The FBI, it probably is going to look into it because a bunch of gamblers threw money on Conor McGregor.
So everybody's all butthurt about it. But no, I'm not surprised. Of course, he was not going to be. you know, in fighting shape.
So shout out to Max Holloway for Ending the national night. He's like. What the fuck? He's like, what do you want me to do? Like I can't fight.
I don't know. Yeah, you at least do a punch. I mean, Mike Tyson went longer. Yeah, but but you know Tyson quit on a stool like These guys are just going to fight until nobody wants to give them money anymore, but. I don't know.
Speaking of McGregor, supposedly he plans to have surgery, is going to fight again.
So. Yeah. Uh he is twenty he's now moved to twenty two and seven and uh If this is the best that the UFC can do, because apparently, like, this was like the highest gate in, like. the last, I don't know, five, ten years or something like that. if this is the best the ufc uh can do i don't know how data white's still in business Well, the biggest part of that UFC fight was Sophie Cunningham's legs.
And the pointing. Yeah. I don't have much on UFC. I don't watch it a lot. I also don't watch boxing, and I'll group them together for the sake of.
Whatever this conversation turns into. Sure. But it does feel like They need They need a Hook or a spectacle. I know there's people that watch every UFC numbered event. You know, I know there's that.
But it seems like for... other people to get in on it. You have to be on the White House lawn, or you have to have a guy come back that. We think it is washed, or even boxing. The last.
The last boxing matches I've seen are either featuring Jake Paul Or that did McGregor fight Mayweather? Was that him? Oh, yeah, but that was, you know, technically an exhibition. And I felt like that was like five years ago. It felt like forever ago.
But yeah, it's Mayweather or like. Paul or Tyson, who's still fighting now. Yeah, and the one problem with boxing is when they do fight You can't just like fight the next week or even month. You need a lot of time to recover. And then, when I watched the UFC fight on the White House lawn, I watched the very last fight.
Because I think the World Cup had ended, and I was like, all right, I'm still up. Is this on? I turned it on, and then I got hooked right away because. This was some undefeated dude. He was 17 and 0.
And I'm like, okay, because they. It's about creating stars. And you can't just make a star. A guy has to turn into a star. And if a guy's undefeated, that goes a long way of making a star.
And then he fucking lost right away.
Well, not right away, but the first time I ever heard of them.
So I don't know. I don't know what, like, what I have so many, there's so many Saturday nights where I'm doing nothing. And I see on my phone, everyone's talking UFC. But I know what's going to hook me into it. I don't, I don't, I barely know who this Holloway guy is.
Yeah, I mean, I've heard of the name before, but like, and I, it's, I know names in passing, like Dustin Poirier, I'd be even though he got arrested in an airport a couple weeks ago. Like, I know those names. I know some of the old school names, you know, Quentin Jackson, Chuck Liddell, stuff like that. It's just, it's just, it never hooked. You have to be.
Like you said, you have to be a fighting fan. And you're going to know that you're going to see your guys once every six months. Like, it's insane. And the problem with boxing specifically, I mean, I don't want to go ahead and go into a all back in my day type of thing, but like. You knew who the stars were in boxing, and it was still the same issue that the UFC has.
It's months in between fights. The thing with boxing is They couldn't do what WWE did.
So. WWE's popularity, a lot of that obviously is attributed to Vince McMahon. And people want to think he's a shitbag and all that stuff now because he was an absolute scumbag. But one of the genius things that he did. Is basically start buying out rival promotions and like combining all these smaller regional promotions.
Into one big global network, like Ohio Valley Wrestling was a feeder system. You know, you had all these like basically like WCW was a regional. You know, it was a southern-based Atlanta-based company.
So a lot of these smaller ones became kind of folded into WWE and Vince McMahon and his dad started buying them and combining them. With boxing, they never did that. They have a hundred different titles. Between a million different promotions, I have no idea which is like the boxing league I'm supposed to be following and which undisputed champion is the real because there's 28 different belts: WBC, WBA, WDBBBB. Like there's boxing never could be centralized for a casual schmuck like me to go ahead and follow it.
I was just going to say whatever happened to Kimbo Slice. He's dead. Yeah. Yeah, I remember he was 10 years ago, which is crazy. He was just viral for fighting dudes in the street.
Well, he finished 7-0 in his life. I mean, what life are we talking about? His actual life? I didn't realize he was dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was a viral dude back when it was hard to go viral. I don't know how he died, but I do know that he died. I think the thing with WWE too is What's interesting about it is. Because it does kind of because there's like There are nights, even last week, when they foolishly took the belt off Sami Zayn and gave it to Punk. On Monday, but that was a big fight.
They can do big fight feel. Even though it's like, oh, this is fucking big. This is a, this is a big, like. And I think that If you don't get WWE, or if you don't get wrestling. And it's weird that ESPN covers it as much as they do.
Because they try to treat it like sports. But I don't like it because of sports. I like it because Of the stories. Yeah, and the spectacle of it. And I like.
I like that we have something. I wouldn't want to do this with every sport, but I like that we have something where. We're questioning creative. Like I don't want to be like Oh God, why would the MLB keep the belt on the Dodgers? They've had it too long.
Oh, we're rerunning the... We're rerunning the LeBron storyline. Oh, we're doing that already. Wazrowski to start the all-star game again? I mean, what a decision.
Now he's out. He's not playing. But I get what you're saying, but in WWE, it's like, oh, they took the belt off Sammy. And I like that part of it. I don't know.
But then, my kid, again, I still. He likes it, it's very blurry because he thinks it's real. And then he always asked me who they're married to in real life. Because of Dom and Liv, I tell them, and then I tell them their real names. And then he's like, oh, Oba Femi could beat up anybody, right, Daddy?
And I'm like, well, if he's booked that way.
So it's really weird. You know, last week. I did not have him go to swimming. He does swimming on Mondays. Does he miss Giannis' kid?
Yeah. One time he showered. He was at the shower in between their kids, and I was like dancing around Mariah, his wife, trying to get my kid, and it was crazy. Um But one time Oh last week, so I said you don't have to go to swimming tonight 'cause we'll watch the USA game. And then He instead watched wrestling on my laptop on the chair.
As I had soccer on on the TV. And now tonight he doesn't want to go because he wants to watch Raw again, but he also wants to watch the home run derby. Because he's seen it advertised to him. MLS, maybe kids would want to watch your shitty league if you advertised one time. And not hidden all your content behind a world uh behind a uh paywall.
Fox has two games Friday night on. on TV. And they're not telling anybody about it. And no one's going to watch. Granted, if you watch World Cup and then watch MLS, it'll be like.
you know, watching Tyson Holyfield, and then watching two bums fight for bacon or some shit. Yeah, world star fights. Yeah. The quality is not going to be anywhere near what you've been watching. But I I don't know.
I thought for a second, maybe keeping him home tonight, but. I'm not going to. He's got to get swimming. And it's Raw and the Derby both on Netflix. A big night, a big night for Netflix tonight, Carlos.
Have they figured out the picture-in-picture or the swapping back between the two? Because if it's going to take a bit of time, I don't know if they do that. How many Home run derby participants. Can you name? Go.
Kyle Schwarber. Bryce Harper question mark?
Okay, that's two junior caminero. Don't ask me why I know that. Wow. Uh F me. I literally just PCI noise.
He PCA is not in it. No. Wow, I literally.
Well, first of all, the fact that I can even get those three right off the bat, I'm impressed, but. I thought those were gonna be the hardest ones. Keep thinking, I gave you a little music. I don't like trivia. Oh, give me a team.
I have no idea. Yankees. Who the hell on the Yankees is doing a home run derby? It's not Aaron Judge, nobody good. Trent Christian, is he doing it?
Yeah. Oh, then I already then I already lost. Ben Rice. Oh, that's right. Ben Rice is in that.
The other participants are Junior Caminero. Did you say him? Right, yeah. Mirakami from the White Sox. Oh, yeah, dog.
He just came in. Yeah, because he came off of injury. Yep. Jordan Walker. I never was going to get him.
He's my pick to click. He is having a great year for the Cardinals. Although Schwarber in Philly is the kind of obvious one, I said Schwarber. Jack Keglioni, or whatever. Damn it.
That's right. Yep. Florida, great. Who the fuck is he? Him and Wire Langford double-handedly destroyed the college World Series for Florida a couple of years ago.
He's on the Royals. Yeah, yeah. Um One of the biggest stars in the league. I could tell you all you need to know about Luis Lara, but I can't tell you shit about Jack Caglione. Is that how you say his name, even?
Yeah, no, you got it right. And then Wilson Contreras. That's the other one. What the fuck is he doing in it? You know, it's bad when you type the word home in your search browser.
And the home run derby is the second thing that pops up. Home Depot still has a stranglehold over SEO. Mm, yeah.
Well, I mean, that's paid for, I'm sure. The home run derby is getting back to basics, Carlos. There is no timer and no outs. You get 20 swings in the first round, 15 in the second, 15 in the finals. Every swing counts.
And then if you home her on your last swing, you get to go until you don't homer anymore. I like it. There's no bracket anymore. There's no, yeah, because they did try to gamify it a little bit. Yeah, they were trying, you know, they were doing like tournament style seating and all that shit.
Just the last four guys suck. Don't get, don't go ahead and play anymore. This is the National Perspective. I'm Bart Winkler, Carlos Ortiz, alongside. Hi.
We've now almost been doing this weekly show as long as we actually did a real show. Yeah, seriously, this is my new job. That feels like another life ago, man. Especially the working at night parts. I can't imagine.
Sometimes I sit around at eight o'clock and I think. Oh my god, I would still have to go to work right now. Yeah. There have been plenty of times plenty of times at nine o'clock. I kind of like.
Do like the Oh crap. Not realizing, wait, I don't have anywhere to be anymore.
So I could just chill out back in my couch or go to bed. I think I would have tried to weasel like I think I would have been like, hey, you know, David was our boss. I'll be like, Can I be like the main Zach Gelb fill-in? And then I'll work day shifts those days. Yeah.
I'll still have the Bart Winkler show at night and I'll do most of my job there, but. There's got to be days where I don't. Fucking work at now. I still can't believe, was it some, like maybe this time last year? We thought we had a chance at days.
Little did we know our livelihoods were going to come to a dramatic end. But we thought we had a shot at days. Yeah, I mean, what we thought. All right, Rich Eisen's leaving. This is great.
Oh, there's no more network.
Well, fuck us then. What we thought to what happened?
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402-915-2278. 402-915-BART. I do have one from David in Buffalo. That's a good caller. Yeah, that's a good guy.
It's very long about The British Open. We should just have a sponsored David segment where he just talks because. He knows more golf than both of us. And I don't care. I don't, that's golf.
I don't think I'm gonna play at all. I will tell you, he ends but says. Yeah, the tournament's unpredictable. Not too much is going on outside of the World Cup. Um That's all I got.
Probably recap it next week. I think LeBron goes to Philly. I've seen the World Cup has been good, but it's not the NFL. But every four years, you know, it's fun to get into. Later, I'm out.
David. Hey, good call.
So, anyway, Greg called live onto the show when I was doing it with. Barry still didn't find the number? My buddy Tim. We haven't talked in like seven months. Right, right.
How you bet? Just fallen apart physically. Infantry feet, just not healthy. But oh well, I've made a difference. They really did a good thing.
I'm very impressed, Greg. Called into John Lund was hosting. On Westwood? Yeah. Oh, there's no velvet rope to get in that network.
And I messaged this guy. I don't really know him, but I. Because he added music. To they added music in the background to the Greg Mr. Positive call.
No kidding. And I thought it was, I thought we should have fucking done that. And so I said. Bravo to you, sir. Very good.
Very good. Yeah, Lund, I worked with him once. I believe he has a steady Saturday night show. I don't know who he is. We've worked together and I still don't know who he is.
Well, Greg still throws out my name, and he throws out my name like he throws it alongside Stephen A. Smith and Chris. Because you guys are the same caliber of talent, just the pay disparity. and obviously employment disparity. It's really wide.
Dustin enjoyed us at night. Thank you, Dustin.
So you were the one. Bobby says the best callers were Barry and Big Ron. I did have pretty good drops. From Barry. The night big Ron fell asleep was an all-timer.
That was great. All right, there's something else I wanted to bring up with you specifically. It's not sports. Did you see this concept art for Avengers Doomsday? I did not.
So, this is the first time, I'm looking at this in real time for the first time here. And it seems like there's... Three different teams.
So, are we going to do this whole thing again where They don't actually all work together until Secret Wars.
So I see Ant-Man's kind.
Sort of like a co-captain with Steve Rogers here, and it's store. And it's the Thunderbolts.
Okay, I don't necessarily know how Ant-Man fits into that team, but okay. Then you have the X-Men, which that makes sense. And then you have. Fantastic four team with Falcon slash Captain America. Yep.
King Cheese hiding in there, and then Black Panther and that other guy. Yeah, that I don't know.
So people looked at, I bring this up because people looked at this and were fucking furious. And I don't know why. This is just a picture with the people that we know are in this movie.
Now, I assume this is not a Marvel-sponsored concept. Marvel, this is the guy who created this worked at Marvel. And then they fired him. But now this has been released. I just I don't I don't see what the big fucking deal is.
I don't see the big deal either. But I do, I am concerned. You've been concerned off of Rick. I'm concerned the movie's gonna suck. I am now formally like.
I'm very excited about Spider-Man. Yes, me too. I can't wait. Oh, by the way, the new promo today. Yes, and moratorium.
Like, again, it's another day or another release that I'm watching it four days late. You are dead to me once that movie is released. I am blocking you until I can watch it. But did you see any of the previous? Yes.
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm all in. Where he's like. Frank, you just don't want to fight the Hulk, don't you? And Frank's like, I don't know.
Well, maybe, I don't know. And now everyone's like, you Disney-fied Frank.
Well, yeah, of course. They were not going to be. Yeah, but there's also a 45-minute special, which I don't even remember what the fuck happens in it. He just kills everyone. It was awful.
It was awful. The problem I'm having, may I? Please go. Is Even the first Saga. Avengers, Infinity War, end game.
A lot of that shit they did make up as they went. But they still found ways to make it seem like they didn't. They were really good at doing that. This is like Oh Thunderbolts in New York, everyone goes through the void. And then it's never fucking mentioned again in Daredevil.
Never addressed. And Kingpin has got a curfew, and he's anti-vigilante in Daredevil. Never fucking mentioning Thunderbolts. And there's like sort of a connection because then Daredevil, the guy's like, yeah, DeFontaine. I just, I need it to be more streamlined.
And now there's this thing in Spider-Man that affects everybody. Just streamline this shit. Yeah, yeah, like because I don't know which is before, which happened after. Like, yeah, that's they used to be very good on, like. This, you know, telling you where in a point of time you are, and that's been thrown out essentially since endgame with the whole time travel thing.
Like, all right, are we still in 2027? Like, I have no idea. Mm. Yeah. Uh yeah.
Bobby, you can come on. I can't share the link for some reason on YouTube. And what is why do you Like refer to me with my last name. I haven't met in the army like Oh, there goes my package. What'd you order?
I have a pair of shorts coming in, and a dog will probably work for about five minutes.
So I'm just going to open the door, but I'm not actually going to go anywhere just so he can shut up. All right.
Well, I'll um Talk about something else, then, I guess. The other thing I was going to bring up was: this is so, this is the all-star week.
Okay. And We are doing this, obviously, but we are not doing 20 hours of content. a week had we had to do 20 hours of content a week I can assure you. I would have fallen into the same trap. That everybody else.
Is falling into, and that's talking about the top 10 quarterbacks.
So ESPN, we can't deny they do have a stranglehold. First of all, The NFL top 100 list. As voted on by the players. I think is just it's just summer content. And to Get To get, um, is this real, Drew?
What are you fucking talking about? If there's something real, do you want to come on to get? Worked up about the NFL top 100. List is so stupid. It's just like getting worked up about power rankings.
It's so dumb. It's the same thing. ESPN came out today. with their quarterback rankings. And so, no matter how hard you try, and I'm doing it right now, I'm going to do it right now.
Because no matter how hard you try. ESPN's a reputable enough place. Everyone's at some point in the morning going to see this. Every show is going to talk about quarterback rankings this week. Oh, yeah.
I don't like. Talking about the NFL. At all. During the summer. You get the draft and then rookies show up.
And we still have our beat guys tweeting every fucking rookie play, who cares? There should be like, we just don't talk about football for a little bit. And then once training camp starts. We get our toes in, we get ready. You know, you can talk about practices.
preseason and then you just fucking dive in fully immersed Come Labor Day weekend or whenever the NFL season starts. I think things like this, I understand why they exist. I'm bringing it up here. They exist because it's a slow. Time.
It's a slow I mean there's no there's there's no debating it It's a slow time.
So, people, this is the time. If there's ever going to be a time to do it and get the most attention, this is it. I just don't like talking about the NFL during the summer. With that being said, Would you like to know the top quarterback list? Um you want to Let's do it a little bit better.
So I haven't looked at the list. Do we want to just guess like the first five? Yeah, now last year. I'll try to do it in order. Last year I said.
The best quarterback in the league. is Josh Allen. Yeah. And then Mahomes is two. And then Burrow and Lamar.
Take your pick. Sure. And then number five, I was adamant that it has to be Jalen Hurts.
Okay. Because of his accomplishments. It has to be Jalen Hurts because we're trying to find out who that number five is. It's got to be Hurts. Right.
Hurts is low on this list. Hertz is low on a lot of people's lists. Um I think Hurts gets more. Criticism than he deserves. But based on skill.
He is not a top five quarterback. Right. I would say that Alan Mahomes. Burrow still have to be in there for me, even though he always gets hurt. Yeah.
Lamar is getting tricky. Um I still think Dak is a very elite quarterback. Yeah. Yeah, I Jordan Love is a lot better than anyone gives him credit for. Jordan Love, three of his receivers last year were like top five in drops.
Dubs is gone, Wicks is gone. He puts it where it needs to be. I hope Dantavian Wicks continues to drop passes because he's with the Eagles now.
So, and the other guy that I hesitate to put Matt Stafford. He's good away from being gone. Matt Stafford, to me, is a lot more Jared Goff. Then he is Josh Allen. Yeah.
Um I don't agree with that. And that's to me. The list. Would you like to guess the ESPN list? And this was put together by.
Executives, coaches. And scouts.
Okay. Stop me when I get it wrong. I'll attempt to go with the first five, though. Let me pull it up here as well on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream. Oops, showed you number one.
No, no, no, you didn't, because I closed my eyes.
Okay. Not looking. Is it good? Can I look now? Just tell me who you think number one is.
I think it's. I think nobody gets more passes than this guy. And I don't mean like literal passes, I mean like media darling passes. I still think Josh Allen's going to be number one. Josh Allen is number one.
The lowest ranking he had was four. And I'm not mad at that. Listen, I. This is the same Josh Allen that my dear friend Rami Makloff. Oh, I think that's a good idea.
But I still am convinced. That when Rami first had that take. He was referring to Josh Rosen. And then he got too far into the take, and he had to stick with Josh Allen. I still firmly believe that.
All right, so I'm going to say, you know, so obviously, Josh Allen. Number two. Are they doing this based on last year, or are they doing this in general? Like what they think? This is just um Just what they think.
Voters gave their own top 10 players at a position. We compiled the results.
So Lamar won't be two because the voters hate him. I would personally say Lamar Jackson's number two. It can't be Mahomes. He was fucking hurt last year.
Well, the answer is Patrick Mahomes. Get out of here. See, this is bullshit. This is bullshit. He fucking literally did not play last year.
And when he did, this team was dog shit. The the shine has come off of Mahomes a little bit. But because here's the thing with Mahomes. I can't believe I'm getting worked up about this list. I know, it's funny.
When do you ever, if you're watching a game. If you're only watching your team. You still will see Mahomes. But you'll see highlights. The only time you see Jordan Love or Dak Prescott highlights is when they throw interceptions.
Yeah. Big media. is convincing you That Dak and love are interception. Machines. And Patrick Mahomes.
Is the greatest thing to ever exist. Yes. Big media. Look at that sidearm, no-look throw that Mahomes has mastered. What do you think would be number three?
Uh if it's not Lamar Jackson, what are we doing? No, it's uh Matthew Stafford. That's insane. I believe he's worthy of being top five, but three is. The lowest ranking anyone had on him was five.
The highest was one. I don't see how. You can say Matthew Stafford's the best quarterback in the league. I think people have just like assumed he's Brady. Yeah.
That one champion. Strefford's good, but I... There's there's tax. Jordan Love gets taxed. Dak Prescott gets taxed.
Josh Allen receives the benefit of the tax. Mahomes receives it. Stafford receives it. Yeah. I think a lot of these guys.
Are pretty much good or not. I don't think there's a world of difference between Josh Allen and Jordan Love. I don't. Four. Joe Burrow.
Joe Burrow. Yeah. Five.
Now, can we get to Lamar Jackson? Yes. Thank you. Highest ranking one, lowest ranking, unranked. I need to know who unranked Lamar.
Which means a scout or an executive or whoever put Lamar outside of the top 10 quarterbacks. In the NFL. That executive/slash scout needs to be disbarred from ever practicing NFL ever again. And then we go six for Dak. And I actually think that's pretty respectable.
So, all of these guys, I'm just, are they a top 10 quarterback in the league? Yes, to all these guys so far. Yes. Herbert's at seven. He's another guy that benefits from the tax, hasn't done shit in the tax.
Herbert's no better than Jordan Love or Dak Prescott. But big media is trying to convince you: Justin Herbert's that elite guy, and he just hasn't had the coaching or infantry. Drake May. Let's let's let's calm down. Let's pump the brakes on Trake.
May is the third quarterback since 2006 to lead the NFL in total QBR, which is not a fucking real stat. Quarterback rating is a real stat. QBR is not a fucking real stat. And you have people walking around talking about it like it's fucking batting average. Or field goal percentage.
It's not fucking real. ESPN made it up. Because they think you're too dumb. to do a chart zero to 158.3.
So they did it up to 100. I am pretty sure. Jarrett Goff at nine is not better than Jordan Love. Caleb Williams, get the fuck out of here. Yeah.
Second. Yeah. Okay. Caleb Williams. Gets the fucking tax.
Because Chicago's been shitty at quarterback for so long, you have a guy that can fucking manage To maintain a pulse. Oh, he's already a dirt franchise's greatest quarterbacks. He doesn't ever have to play another game. He probably is. And I will admit, some of those throws that he made, especially against the Packers, my fucking lord.
And then honorable mentions Darnold, Jaden. Yeah, Jaden Daniels was everybody's five last year. He fell. Purdy, Baker, Lawrence, Hurts. Trevor Lawrence needs to never be on the list ever again.
Trevor Lawrence is overrated. And this is the problem. Um No Jackson cart. Screw you, media. I don't like talking.
NFL in the summer But here we are. I mean, this is why. It's a slow week. Jordan Love to me. He would have definitely talked to NFL, by the way, everybody.
Yeah. Jordan love to me is unquestionably. The best quarterback in the NFC North. I don't have a d I don't have a doubt about it. I think he's better than Kyler Murray, J.J.
McCarthy. Jared Goff. I'll stop there.
Well, Caleb, look, and you're an outside observer. From the division.
So I'm not going to be mad. I'm not going to be mad if someone says Caleb over love. Goff, I don't think is. I mean, Goff is fine. He's good, but he's a beneficiary of all the skill players around him.
Kyler Murray is not the best quarterback in this division, but this is the thing. I'm a Packer fan.
So, what can you take? You can't take my answer with anything other than a grain of salt because. I'm riding for my guy, but I've been a Caleb guy, but I truly believe, I truly believe love is the best quarterback in this division. I think he gets unlocked if Matt LaFlore ever gets fired. Oh yeah.
If Jordan loved Ben Johnson. Jordan Love will win an MVP with Ben Johnson. But if you're a Bears fan, you are convinced. That it's Caleb. And if you're a Lions fan, you're convinced that it's golf.
And if you're a Vikings fan, you've convinced yourself already without seeing him in your jersey that it's Kyler Murray, which means it's all pretty close. It's all pretty close. I will tell you, I think Matt LaFleur is the worst coach in this division. 1,000%. Absolutely.
So that's there are assistants in the NFC North that are better than Matt LaFlore. I still think Brian Flores is still a quality head coach in waiting. That's the problem I have with predicting anything Packers, because If they're baseline nine and eight. I think Jordan love. Just getting one on those wild cards.
Yep. But if like 9-8's the baseline, I think Jordan Love. Buys them two wins. But I also think Matt LaFleur takes two away. And I think Jordan Love can win a Super Bowl, but I think Matt LaFleur can't.
Yeah, and so I think Matt Lafour football players I think LaFleur not. Winning a Super Bowl is going to be heavier and way more. Than love winning a Super Bowl. And I continue to think that Matt LaFleur needs to be fired. And I'm not going to week by week root against the Packers.
If it's the playoffs and the NFC championship game, or even the first round, and they're back in as a seven seed, I'm not going to be like, Oh darn. I want the Packers to lose. In the moment, that's impossible. But I can sit here right now on July 13th and say. I would rather have the outcome this season where LaFleur gets fired than.
Because Him winning a Super Bowl. It's not possible in my brain. It's like me. Being Employed. Oh, oh, so all right.
Well, I actually think Sophie Cunningham is within reach. Job, Sophie Cunningham.
Sophie, Sophie, Sophie. People are like. Bart, you know she's a conservative.
So And I'm like. I'll be whatever she is. I ain't gonna change your mind. You hate colors and minorities? I hate them too.
Well, let's not go that far. Offer Sophie. I consider it. It's white. We got 20 minutes on the NFL.
We'd have to do it. Say again? We'd have to do four hours tonight. What did you guys, what did they talk about on the weekend shows you did? Dude, honestly, I did the weekend shows and I still don't even know.
I actually did not work yesterday. I was scheduled for a five-mile race and. I paid for it. I did not have the insurance.
So, one way or another, I was doing that race.
So, I took Sunday off. Saturday, we talked about. A little bit about the the deal that Victor Wembanyama gave the Spurs because No, why not? I don't think that's a big deal, but we talked about it. And I feel that was 48 hours ago and I have no idea what else would the hell be Soccer teaches us lessons we can take with us long after we leave the field.
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So Al Cintron, buddy. He actually texted me today. He's just like, dude, I want to go. And I'm like. I would.
But I have to get up at five o'clock on the weekends. Weekends are tough. Just go. I don't know. You see when you get home.
I don't know. I didn't go to Death Cab this weekend because I watched Argentina instead. Deathcap still performs. Oh, yeah. I didn't know they were still touring or doing whatever.
See, I can't. You could put a gun on my head. I don't think I can name you one Def Cat by Cuba. This is where sports needs to follow bands. Here's a great new take.
Ready? When you go to a death cab show. It's all people my age. Like it is all people. 39 to 44.
But I'm 40. I'm going to be 41 next week. I don't know any definitely.
Well, that's fine. But I'm telling you. Yes. And everyone's white. is shit too.
That's cab for cutie. All right.
You might have heard of I know a place where soul meets body. He will follow you into the dark. No, don't play it. Don't play it. Don't play it.
I'll mute myself. I'll get struck. Hold on. Bobby. My best friend's name is Jeff.
Okay, 0 for 1 on that song. I don't know. No, I gotta be pro Jeff. He gets a lot of G off, of course. Anyway, can I give you my take?
0 for 2. Yeah, go ahead.
So when I go to a death cab show, everyone there is my age, 39 to 44. And the band embraces that. Those are their fans. They're not trying to do what all these sports leagues are doing and be like, we got to get new fans. Like, hey, hey, transatlanticism, our eight-minute classic, let's get it down to two and a half minutes to attract new fans.
No, they know who their fans are. They play to their fans. Can you make it to Newport, Kentucky tomorrow? Because that's where they're going to be playing next. I think you're dismissing the brilliance of my take.
No, I can hear you. I just. I don't know anything about Death Cab.
So I played four or four songs really quickly, and I'm like, I don't know any of them. Breaking news: the Packers have signed Isaiah McDuffie to a contract extension. I don't know how we didn't leave with that. It just occurred. This is as breaking as it gets.
Packers. Oh, Schefter tweeted it, so I got to get on that. Have you noticed what I'm doing with Schefter? Yeah, I actually meant to ask you that the other day when I saw you and you were like tweeting out like just obvious shit. And then I'm like, okay, probably just looking for aggregation.
I'm trying to point out or wide receiver sets in the game using I'm trying to point out that Adam Schefter. Doesn't do anything. No, and he makes $9 million a year, which is insane. And yet He still needs. To dip in and get the Elon box.
He makes all this money. And it's not enough. He still he just tweeted. Packers have announced a contract extension. For Isaiah McDuffie.
And all he did was cut and paste the graphic that the Packers posted themselves. And he's gonna get This Packers graphic has 7.7 thousand views. Shepter's already up to 111. That's insane. If I have a hundred thousand views on a tweet, I feel like I've gone viral in a way.
But Schefter, everything, so he can just tweet, he can just tweet nothing. Like Rory McElroy had a fucking missed the other day and Schefter just goes, even Rory, dot dot. Two million views. It's insane. That's like 50 bucks.
So I guess why once you not have your temperature? I'm just trying to highlight. That these These insiders. This whole profession is Bullshit. But we have allowed it.
Yeah. It only exists because we allow it to exist. Correct.
Meanwhile, we don't get work. I want to be an insider. Adam Schefter, multi-year contract to do what? To do what? To turn the text from an agent you got into a tweet.
To beat a middleman, to beat a conduit. To have somebody at the trade deadline. go to a set with their phone to make it looks like you guys are on top of everything. This is the kind of shit that would fly in like the 1980s when we had imagination about how the world works.
Now, this is just like, what the fuck are you doing, you asshole? He just cut and paste. The fucking thing. From the Packers. Huh.
I want to make Adam Schufter money. And do Adam Shutter work. And his kid is set for life. You know, 'cause you know she's gonna be uh... Media Darlene in like 10 years.
See, now I'm wondering: like, my kid has shown interest in this kind of stuff. Am I blocking him? Probably. I mean Is he going to be afforded the same opportunities as Dylan Shepherd? My answer is probably not.
Should I do Bart and Son podcast? No. Not unl not unless you want him to get a job. I just You know what? If he finds a way to do it on his own, that's one thing.
Yes. Because when I was 15, I was recording. I was not even 15. When I was like 12, I'd sit in my room and record shows. I had like, 15 cassettes where I did two hours of content front and back.
With just doing like skits and voices and Playing music. I had a whole storyline where I died and then I came back to feel the gold by sing. I didn't want to know. I didn't know I didn't want to do this until like six years ago. But imagine if that shit was.
I mean, now looking back, I wish I had it and I would totally share it, but. Why Like, if I did that and then it was out, like, I don't want him to. Because if me and him want to just fuck around and do a fake podcast and keep it for ourselves, that's one thing. We used to do shows like. We used to do shows on our on our video camera and then watch them back, but When you do shit now, it's broadcasted to the world.
And it's there forever.
So I don't know that.
So if he's gonna fuck around, he's gonna Yeah. Yeah, he'll figure it out. I don't know. I don't know what to do. I think what you do is um If he's interested and he he fucks around and starts like doing stuff.
You can nudge them in the right direction. Like, if he has a question, be like, hey, how does this work? And be like, well, it works this way. But I don't think you go there and you set things up for him or like lay out a roadmap. Like, let him drive his own car.
When when people don't like what I Tweet, the two responses I've been getting a lot are either. Yeah, coming from someone named Bart. I don't fucking understand. What does that mean? And then the other one is.
This is why you don't have a job. That's that I thought that would be number one. Twite on tweet. And I said something, and then my son, because I was talking to my wife, and then my son's like. You have a job, Daddy.
You podcast. Yeah. And I'm like, if in your eyes I have a job. Great. I have a job.
But in another more accurate way I mean I'll call this again when I call it to other people. This is a somewhat profitable hobby. I don't have I don't have that, so I commend you. No. I do have a blister on my foot though.
Show the people your feet. I don't know. I don't, no, no, I don't really. I don't know if you could see that one.
Well, you know what? Maybe I can get some money off of feet pictures. Mm-hmm. Subscribe to my sub stack, and I will post a picture of my feet. That is one massive blister.
I think this is the natural ending spot for the day. Oh, okay.
Well, well, that because uh, is there a soccer game going? No, no, wait, uh, who plays tomorrow? Oh, that's the other thing. It's France and Spain, and then it's Argentina and England, and these games are at 3 o'clock Eastern. Yes.
And everyone's fucking pissed about it. And I understand that you'd rather be in prime time. Especially this week when there's no Sports, really. Yeah, but it's prime time for the rest of the world. But you don't want it to go up against the MLB All-Star game.
It's also FIFA does cater to Europe. Yeah. It's seven o'clock in London, or something like that. And also, I think that it is weird that we've gotten primetime games at all. Part of what makes the World Cup special to me is watching this shit at weird fucking times.
Yes. Like those people in Switzerland, they lost the other night. The game ended at six in the morning. Wow. And then you have to sit there with your feelings.
And then you can like eat brunch and fucking have one more beer and pass out and wake up at three. That's fucking the World Cup. It's not watching a game in prime time. That ain't the World Cup.
So I got no also, I don't have a job as we just. Made very clear, but I don't have a problem with it. Yeah, I got no problem with the times either. I mean, if you're upset, I mean, good. That means you're actually locked into the tournament, and that's what FIFA wants.
They want more fans. Um I will Somewhat watch the game tomorrow, but I feel like this whole tournament has basically been shoehorned for Argentina to win. Yeah, well, they're calling them Vargentina now. Yeah, it makes sense. That's such a good nickname.
VA Argentina is such a good fucking nickname. The Egypt one was bullshit. That play was over. It'd be like... It'd be like a guy hitting a home run, and then the next batter's got a 2-2 count, and then they go, oh, actually, we're going to review that home run now.
That was bullshit. All right.
Well, I'm glad we got the World Cup in there because otherwise it isn't a national perspective at all. Yeah, thank you. The World Cup. I mean, I grew up watching World Cup games at 2 in the fucking morning. That's the whole point.
You want to see your team eliminated at 10 a.m. and then figure out what to do with the rest of your fucking day.
Well, looks like I got to go to work pissed now. Yeah, not be like. Oh fuck, bedtime. Ha ha ha ha. Yeah.
All right.
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