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Per usual Giants, Cowboys, week one, Sunday night football. How about that for like the eighth time in the last 13 years? You know what's funny? Uh, because I feel the same way, and I'm like, damn, we're always playing the Cowboys. That's not factually true.
It is. No, I went back for the opponents. The last couple of years, we played Minnesota. Denver I think there was a Jacksonville in there somewhere. Tennessee We haven't played the Cowboys.
It was a couple years ago. Yeah, we played the Cowboys. But it was really in the 2010s. We were playing the Cowboys like almost every other year. This is the eighth time.
This is the eighth time since 2012. Yeah, no, I believe that, but a lot of that was like in the 2010s. And we've gone away with the Cowboys, gone away from the Cowboys the last couple of years. But when I heard the news initially, I'm like, again. And immediately, I'm thinking it's on the road.
At least it's at MetLife, which is a terrible stadium and whatever. But with grass. With grass, I don't know how many. Yeah. What do you make of it?
Because the schedule is coming out later this week. Do you like the slow drip? A lot of people. Will say, why is the NFL schedule such a big deal? But it is.
It is. There's only 17 games.
Soon to be 18. Yeah, but there's only 17 games. Of course, it's a big deal. The Sunday night, the Monday night, that kind of stuff does matter. Mm-hmm.
I think it sucks that they've taken advantage of it the way that they have, with like. We're going to announce game one on the Today Show. Like that stuff sucks. But is every network is allowed to quote unquote leak really more like announce one game. Every network can do one.
And that's what NBC did by announcing that this game, the Giants and Cowboys, was going to be on their Sunday night opener. But I saw somebody tweet yesterday: like, if the NFL had a draft lottery and just did. Four picks. Yeah. For over four straight days, like the ratings would be, yeah, they would, yeah.
The NFL is different for a lot of reasons. But a big difference. Is The scarcity of games. There's only 17 games.
The NFL can announce the schedule the same way that Marvel announced who was going to be in the cast of Avengers Doomsday. And they can just put a matchup. on a chair every 15 minutes on a stream. And people are going to break the internet and watch that stream. Like, oh man, the Cardinals and the Broncos week eight.
I can't wait. And then 20 minutes later. The Titans and the Jaguars, week 12. Like the NFL can do whatever we want, we're all slaves to the machine. But there's not a secret to it.
Like, yes, the NFL is bigger. And football's bigger. than these other sports, but I think a lot of that is just the sanctity of games. It's just the scarcity of games. There's only.
We have a league where there's 17 games. And then we have two other leagues where there's 82 games. And then we have a league where there's 162 games. And people are always like, why is he? Because there's less games.
Like it's more of an event. Like the season, the season is halfway done when you think it's still early. Like the it goes by in an eye blink. As my dog is squeaking the turtle in the background. Mike says, good day, guys.
Hello, Mike. Foghorn, Leghorn. Eight you. Says, I say, I say, boy, I say, listen here, boy. I say, good to see you guys together again.
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Funny. What did you make of the draft lottery? The Bucs have the 10 picks.
So. There's a lot of talk about the Gianna situation today, if or not he's going to get traded. It's pretty much confirmed that he's going to get traded. I don't know if you saw, I'm sure you did, but a couple minutes ago. I forgot who tweeted it out.
Well, Shams. Shams had an article. Yeah, but I don't follow Shams.
So it was an alert that I got from somebody else. But basically, the Bucks are looking to entertain trade offers for Giannis before the NFL draft combine.
So that's going to be the big story. NBA for you and an NBA. Uh that being said. I'm happy that my bulls are at fourth. I will take that with a smile on my face.
I mean, I don't care who falls, whether it's because I don't think it's going to be DeBonza Boozer and Peterson one, two, three. I think there's going to be a surprise. Maybe a Darius Acup Jr., maybe a Caleb Wilson.
So like.
Someone's gonna crack that uh That top three that were like, whoa, and all of a sudden these blue, quote-unquote, blue chippers fall down to the Bulls. But either way, I think the Bulls are in a great position.
So I'm very happy about that. I'm happy that the Warriors and the Heat. And the Thunder are not like you know in the top 10 because, like, that was a possibility. I'm happy that the Pacers lose their pick. They gambled, uh, so now they're fifth, uh, they were going to be.
Picking fifth overall.
Now that goes to the Clippers.
So well, in fact, the basketball president operations for the Pacers came out and like said, hey, My bad. I effed up.
So, you know, there was a lot of things about the draft lottery that were great. Um The one thing that I would say, like, oh man, that's kind of a bummer, but maybe not really. was AJ DeBonsa when he look he sat there, he's like, fuck, I didn't want to go to Washington. Most people who get drafted into Washington, their careers die. But I actually think it's not a bad spot for him and the team.
And they may trade it now. There's that discussion. But I think it's due diligence just to put it out there. I don't understand why. The kids go to the lottery.
I don't understand that. When did that start? LeBron wasn't there when the Cavs got it over to the Grizzlies. Yeah, I'm with you. I don't know when that started being a thing because you're not getting drafted.
It's like it's almost presumptuous for you to go because you're like, Like, again, the camera went up the bond's face and he looked like he was disappointed. Dude, there's no guarantee you're getting drafted one. You're not Wemby. You know, this isn't, you know, this isn't a surefire thing. like LeBron James coming out of uh high school going into the draft.
So like.
I don't know. I thought that was with you. I think they should only be allowed to go. To the actual draft. Like the lottery doesn't make any sense, unless you're a Wemby Yama.
But even it was more than it's like that they had like six or seven kids there. Like, what is it? I don't understand why you'd want to do that. The TV presentation of it is weird because we want to see. The ball combination, which they'll never show us.
Apparently, they had to redo it because the jazz had 2-3. 'Cause there's a way that you can have more than one pick or some shit. I don't know. So they had to redo it, but I don't understand why the kids are there. Um It happening on Mother's Day was weird, but very strange.
I did watch it during the. Mother-in-law festivities, I'll say. And my brother-in-law is a Bulls fan, and I didn't. Even think about the Bulls during this, and we were talking bucks, bucks, bucks. And all of a sudden, the balls go top four.
And he's like, hey, yeah. And I'm like, oh, shh. I was pumped too. Yeah, because we essentially should have been drafting like eight or ninth. Right.
There was a 20% chance to jump up to the top four, and that's exactly what happened. And then um The the Pacers thing, I agree with you. Like, I I was talking last night. I am of the age. Where I take more joy in sports teams that I don't like in their pain than I do in my sports team's success.
Yeah. And for the Pacers to not pick in the top four, which means they don't pick at all. In the lottery. It's delicious. And this is the weird thing: like the Celtics, the Bucks, and the Pacers.
All had guys last year in the playoffs that got hurt. With the Achilles that you thought would miss. The full year.
Okay, well, the Pacers decided. We're going to not, we're going to suck for a year. Yeah, we're going to just completely take a gap year. Like we thought what the Celtics are going to do. That didn't work out.
The Bucks thought We don't want to do that. We're going to find a way to be competitive. Stretch Dame, trade him, get Miles Turner. That didn't work out. The Celtics thought, we're just going to let bygones be bygones and hope that Tatum comes back, and he does.
That didn't work out. So all of these teams face with these injuries. And none of them worked out. Which uh you know this is me. What did you say?
I said it pleases me. It pleases you. Yes.
So good luck with the draft as a Bulls fan. Yeah, good luck with your offseason, which is off to a very tumultuous start. I'll reiterate just what I've been saying about Giannis: I don't want him to be traded. Yeah. I don't want him to be traded.
I want him to stay here. I don't think there is a package. available Especially with RGM and ownership. I don't think there's a package available that would make a Giannis trade. worth it that would turn Giannis into That would turn the Bucs into a championship team.
I don't think that exists. I don't think it exists.
So you would, the fourth pick, you're out. Bulls say, hey, we'll give you the fourth pick. Yannis. What up?
Well, that's the other thing. I don't care if the trade package is. Lesser. If it means the Bucks don't trade him to somewhere I don't want him to go. And I don't want him to go to Chicago.
I don't want him to go to the Knicks. I don't want them to go to the heat. I don't want him to go to the Warriors. Basically, any team that thinks they've had a chance, the Celtics. Any team that thinks they've had a chance on him for the last 10 years.
I do not want Giannis to be there. I do not want Giannis to be there. I do not want these guys to be validated. I don't want it. We got a few Utah, Memphis, Portland.
Who else is on the table here? Portland would be also a little bad because then he'd be with Damon Drew. Unless yikes, yeah, maybe Milwaukee West. Yeah, and then I'm sure. Another guy would land over there.
And then Bobby Portis is our main marketable guy.
So I don't want that. I still think it's about 50-50, but I don't think that the ownership. Has ever been more Uh amicable? Short on borderline motivated. Yeah, and Jimmy Haslam, like I was saying last night, he's a different.
This is a different guy. This is not a guy who's been here the entire time. This is not a guy who is. been with Giannis as the new arena got built, as a championship was won, as he developed, as they moved practice centers. This is not a guy who's been here for any of the changes in the Bucks organization for the last thirteen years.
He sees Giannis as a As a line on a spreadsheet. He does not see Giannis as. Oh, Giannis is at the zoo. I'm not going to take a picture because I don't want to alienate him. He doesn't see him as that, he sees him as a.
He doesn't see me even as a person. He sees just as a commodity. Yeah. So I just think people need to remember that. We are in a brand new terrain.
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Spider-Man? Yeah. Do you like the Daredevil finale? I thought it was all right. I mean, I liked it.
The flaws I have is: where's everybody else? Yeah, I mean that's a problem. Yeah. The fact that it's can't have a universe and not have a universe. Correct.
Correct. Like, if Jessica Jones is the only camo that you're going to get and that was teased at the beginning of the season. I'm like, and that's all you pretty much paid off on? Yeah. I'm all right.
I mean, I just wanted like a spider web. I didn't even need spider-man, just show a web with like a silhouette. Show the show the void happening and like, you know, and from Thunderbolts. Show that happen for like. 30 seconds of the episode and be like, what the hell was that?
All right, let's just fight again. Like, something. It's still back. If you go back and watch Marvel leading up to Infinity War. Even though a lot of that shit was done on the fly.
Like Loki was not intended to be as big of a character as he was. And a lot of other things kind of like came together. Thanos and the Infinity Stones. But if you watch it, you're like, oh, this is all totally connected. Yeah.
If you watch Marvel, you're like.
Okay, I watched Secret Invasion. And then the next the next project I have, there's a new president and they barely mention it. Yeah. And what happened to that super scroll that just flew into the sky? And it's like the most powerful cosmic being.
I haven't heard anything about this person since. Yeah, and that what was all that shit going on in Egypt like You know, like all of a sudden there's Egyptian gods walking around with avatars and. You know? And the guy from Eternals, the big... Arishim or whatever.
It was the fucking sky. Yeah, and you know, the only connection they made is: all right, well, time it's stuck in the fucking Indian Ocean, and now we have Adamanzium. Let's go harvest his pinky. Like. the connections have been very loose at best.
That's my uh That's my gripe with the Daredevil finale as well. Because my trainer at the gym, slash coach, slash buddy, who's also a Marvel guy, he's just like, I wasn't really feeling it. He's just like, I kept waiting for Spider-Man to come out. The same thing as you. He's like, I kept waiting for Spider-Man.
He was really good. Yes.
In the umbrella of the Marvel universe, there needs to be more. Yeah. Although, I am very, that being said. I'm very excited for Punisher tomorrow night. I really feel like this is going to be the bridge between series.
And Spider-Man movie. If it's not. If there's no direct link between these three projects, I'm going to be. Really fucking upset. But I'm just holding out hope that there is.
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That was a good one. Nobody knows. I think this podcast gets a lot more audio listens after the fact than live viewers at noon on a Monday. Fair. And I'm still not sure.
I I have a feeling that um I know we thought our show was good. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I don't know how many people actually heard it. I'm I still always get surprised at like You know, I was given money in exchange for going in and sitting in a boo for four hours.
and a program would be going out that would be consumed by live humans. I I I always still find it very humbling and also surprising that a live human would interact with me based on the performance of that show. And I'm like. Where the hell did you listen to this from? I live in the biggest city in the world.
And nobody knew I was producing an evening sports show nationally. Not a fucking soul. My neighbor asked, What do I do? I'm like, oh, I'm the executive producer on the Infinity Sports Network for Bart Winkler. That sounds cool.
Where on the radio can I find that? Oh, you actually can't. Yeah, it was on in New York, wasn't it? On an HD signal. Yeah, maybe somewhere in like Syracuse.
No, some of these radios have the H D, wasn't it? WFANHD Yeah, but I'm pretty sure they're putting you know fucking Loogie screaming into the mic for some you know reason What is hot take? I'm going to unfollow everybody that I follow that's working on WFAN. It's a little too much. These guys are too much.
Well, I hope. I hope you'll continue to follow me. Because um I'm trying to get back in the building. Oh. Uh yeah.
It's knocking on wood. But I will have a conversation with somebody after Memorial Day. when there is potentially a position open. After Memorial Day, they told you. Yeah.
Yeah, because Now, we're all friends at the stream. Rami Lavi, who was a part-timer, he was like literally hired, I think, a year and a half after me. But somehow he got shoehorned into the fan, fast-tracked, all that. A good kid, or I shouldn't say kid, because he might be a couple of years younger than me, but. In any case, he's going to be taking over as the board operator for Eddie Scasgari and Boomer and Geo.
So it's a huge promotion for him. Congratulations to him. Um but that will leave a part-time spot open, I think.
So, unless they're just going to have the people that they have already kind of like divvy up the responsibilities, I'm knocking on the door like. What's up? I need a job. Bring me back.
So Yeah. Bryn had us on 1067, The Fan in DC. Every night. Do you know we were big in DC?
Well, now what would you say? Boston, DC, Chicago. Those were the big guys. Yep, Atlanta. Uh we were on in Miami.
Miami. Here's a comment from Jay Lewis. Giannis is fighting the actual concept of being an adult male. Jokic literally responded to the media with no intent to deceive anyone with a choice. That's what real men do.
There's a part of this where I could be like, pontificate on that as I go rescue my chicken from the oven.
Okay, fair enough. People eat during the show. I mean, there's a part of this where I could be like, well, I agree. I agree. There's something going on with Giannis.
Where he's not. Able to cross The bridge. I definitely agree. And I don't know if it's. Being an adult, I mean, he's married, he has children, he's a dad, he supports his family.
But there does seem to be, there's like a. There's a thing in your brain, I think. I've gotten there. It may seem like I haven't, but there's a thing in your brain. Where you have to realize I'm not a kid anymore.
I can't just like whine for things. I have to actually do. I can't sit here. My grass is long. Go cut it.
The laundry's all over the fold it and put it away. I'm not happy as a buck. Do something about it. There is there does seem to be Because I don't think it's like. Being an adult male, but that's a good entry point.
There's a part where like You wonder, am I doing the right thing? Am I on the right path? Am I on the right path? I wish I would have done this. I wish I would have done that.
What if I didn't turn down that job in Rockford, Illinois? You know? What if I would have... Stayed in TV. You know, you think about these things, but at a certain point, You have you can't do that anymore.
You're in charge of your own decisions. And Giannis does seem like he's trying to have. Other people make the decision for him. Does he want to stay? Does he not want to stay?
We don't know 'cause he tells us everything else.
So that's a good comment. What'd you make there, bud? I got some uh marinated chicken breast. With uh white rice, black beans. And that's it.
It's delicious. The chicken breast was about 20 minutes. The beans take about. 35 minutes or so the rice takes about like 10 to 15. I'm going to try not to eat today.
Enjoy. I'm starving. I got a weird thing going on with my body where the weight, I'm not any heavier than I was like three months ago, but the weight's moving around. Why don't you mention that? I'm wondering the same thing.
It's all moving to my belly. I lost the weight a little bit on my stomach area. But it's like going to places that I do like, but I'm upset because the number is not going down.
So like I'm at 234. And uh that I was 228 before I left to Wrigley Field. Mm. But like I'm getting stronger, but I'm upset that I'm not weighing less. But I know that doesn't make any sense because muscle weighs more than fat.
So I should just get over the number and just start being happy with how I look, I guess. I'm probably around 197 right now. I'll take that. But If you looked at me a month ago, you'd say you're 185. And if you looked at me today, you'd say I'm 210.
Yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah, and it really bugs the shit out of me. And I don't know what to do.
So, just not eating, I guess, is the solution? No, just an attempt to be a little active. Don't go. insane like I am where I'm working out five days a week. You know, don't do that.
But I'll go for a walk after this. I didn't eat dinner last night, and I wasn't going to eat last night, but then. I had one of these seltzers and then I got hungry. Yeah, that happens. I don't know.
And the real vice for me. You know, it's like candy or Cookies are a big vice for me. I could run through a bag of chip a hoist right now if you gave it to me. Cheese and Crackers Really? God, you are Midwestern.
Cheese and crackers. I just love the crunch. And the cheese. Together. At once.
I would be like wrapping Ritz crackers with the cheese in the middle in slices of cheese. And eating them almost like they're pigs in a blanket. It's kind of gross. I do like birds. I love cheese.
I enjoy red birds. Huh? I enjoy a great reds. Uh to answer uh Foghorn's question, I don't know why you or anybody would care. I'm five ten.
Well, I'm 5'10. Wasn't I taller than you?
Okay, first of all, revision is history. I'm pretty sure I may have towered over you if anything. No, we were at the same height. Then I think you'd be taller. No, I thought you'd be taller, and you were offended because that was the first thing I said about you.
I'm like, oh, wow, you're not as tall as I thought. And I don't know. What about me gives off tall? I just assume most people are tolerating me, but I'm 5'10. I'm not short.
I just feel like I am. No, 5'10's a great height. 510 is the height where You as a man feel like everyone should be your height or taller. And if someone's smaller than you, you're like. Jesus Christ.
Yeah. So when I go back, when I go to Mexico with my wife, I feel like an Egyptian god because I'm like towering over these people. I'm like, how is this possible? And it should be fun with the drone. At 5'10, I feel like I should be the same height or a little shorter than every other man I see, and I should be taller than every woman I see.
Mm-hmm. I don't think that's sexist to say. When I meet a tall woman uh when I meet a woman that's taller than me, I'm very disturbed. I think my wife is five eight. That's pretty fucking solid.
If I could just like chop four inches off of her. My wife is perfectly height. She's like five, four at best. Ah, man. I got me a true Mexican.
Well, I've told her that, I go, I wish you were shorter. And she's like, what? I wish you were taller. I don't know. I wanted.
Shorter. Robert says: My only vice is fast food, candy, cookies, chips, donuts, sigs, and beer. Besides that, I'm doing everything right and still feel like crap. Yeah, I don't. I mean, you're looking through this, Robert.
I don't see one thing to take off. Maybe you don't need candy and donuts, but everything else. I was going to say, I don't know if you need to do. I don't know if you need to do the chips. I got no problem with the Sigs and beer.
But it's like you got to pick a struggle. Go keto and get the baked cheese snacks. Once you hit ketosis, the weight falls off. I've did keto for a month. I'm like, screw this.
I did paleo. Paleo is actually pretty good. Which one's paleo? Uh, Paleo is a caveman diet. Like, you can't eat, like, fucking legumes or your beans.
Like, You're straight up just eating like veggies and meat. Hmm Yeah, 'cause my my my wife was fascinated with the diet craze uh not too long ago, so we did. We did Aikido and Paleo, not back to back. But we did paleo for one month, then we did keto for another month. Just to see like, you know, how much weight we would lose.
And I'm like. Keto was the one I was like, screw this. Out of the month I did three weeks and then the fourth week, I just broke. I'm like, I'm gonna go get a Whopper. Keto sucked.
Paleo, I actually stuck with, and it was pretty solid because who doesn't like beat?
Well, I'm trying to get sick. That's the way I lose the weight the best. Oh, why don't you uh go find a mouse? Because apparently that that was what that new Age virus thing. Although I would be weary of that mortality rate.
It's a little higher than you like. A whole 40%.
Okay, what the? of the one. Uh how's Nick's fever in New York City? Oh my God, it is at an all-time high.
So I went out to a bar for game three. Uh the bar was a block away from Madison Square Garden.
So the bar itself was, you know, there were Nick fans there for sure, you know, but it wouldn't have been out of. out of sorts to see this on a regular season night. When you go out to 7th Avenue, which is where Madison Square Garden is, heading toward the train. It's a complete zoo. I wish I took videos.
I wish I was hanging around there a little bit longer. But to be honest, I was tired and I needed to wake up at five o'clock in the morning the next day.
So I was just really just trying to get to the train. But it was completely packed. I got caught in a mosh pit. Yeah. Yeah, like, you know.
Like Moss pit. And people are just screaming Nixon for, and this was after game three. A lot of FMB'ds. A lot of fuck Trey Young's too, which is, I guess he'll always be public enemy number one here. Um Yeah, there's the city of New York versus Trade.
It was like five years ago. And he's still hated. Still hated.
Well, I don't care if he's hated. That's fine, but. It's tears a long time ago. It's like how I shit on Bears fans for saying fuck Green Bay when it's a Cubs versus Cardinals game. I understood it, but I'm like.
He's in Washington. But in any case, yeah, Nick's fever's at an all-time high, and rightfully so. I mean, they completely eviscerated the Sixers in this series, and they took their souls. Like you, you looked at, I don't even know what the name of the Sixers building is. But that was MSG South.
It was 70% Knicks fans, and that's being kind.
So, yeah, congratulations to the Knicks fans. I'm not one of them. But it was easy to understand how you can get caught up in those celebrations and those stuff like that because the vibes have been pretty good the last couple of days here.
So they're either going to play the Pistons or the Cavs, and I don't care. I mean, the Knicks should win that series. If the Knicks don't make it to the finals, now they'll never make it. Right. On the western side, the thunder will probably sweep the Lakers tonight.
I got a little LeBron 2010. Like I got excited about LeBron and I said they're gonna win the series and I got people that bookmark these tweets and like LeBron stands. I don't give a shit. I was just fucking talking.
So people are gonna oh that game's on prime video.
So I ain't watching that shit. The fuck, LeBron. This it won't be, but it could be his last game ever. Maybe as a Laker, but there is no way he's not going to have a retirement tour. He absolutely wants to lap it up.
Oh, I agree. And then you have the Spurs with Wemby's elbow. People want him to be suspended. No discipline coming in. That's been announced.
Anti- Like these games, like Scott Williams got suspended for the Bucs in 2001 and it kind of fucked them over. And even when Draymond got suspended, like, I get it, Draymond, whatever. I don't think like if you get suspended in a game That was the game. The series, you need to start at full strength. I don't think suspensions.
Should carry over. This is a series. You're trying to play seven games. You can look like soccer, there's red cards, you get whatever, but it's. I it's it's a it's I like If I'm a Timberwolves fan, I'm probably like, oh, Wemby should be suspended because that's our only chance.
But he shouldn't be. That series is even.
So. Kudos to them. I thought we were going to get... Inevitable Thunderspurs. I thought it'd be...
No drama whatsoever in the Western Conference until then. And kudos to the Timberwolves for making things very interesting. I think a lot of people around here are like, I don't like uh I don't like anything about any of our rivals, but I'm liking the Timberwolves. Yeah, you can like the Timberwolves. They're in the Western Conference, and it's fun to watch Anthony Edwards.
Now, if they switch over to our division, which they will. Uh That might be different. But for now, it's just like when I liked the Cubs in the 1980s.
So, you think if he punched him in the face, he shouldn't be suspended in the night? I think that's where you draw the line. Yeah. I mean, this is a flag. It's a flagrant too.
He just he just I don't know. I don't think that one I You're just like he's moving around. He's got an elbow Sports The shit these guys get away with. They should be arrested if it's real life. Hockey beast people should be arrested.
Basketball, they should be or baseball, they should be arrested. Nobody's getting arrested.
Some of these tackles in football, if it was real life, that is assault. But in games, you can't. You can't have sports and expect them to have the rules of modern society. I do think do I put on my crackers? Any cheese possible.
Somebody news. I'll do string cheese and I'll like wrap it around the cracker. That, I don't know why that just like the image of that just sounds gross. I like string cheese. I like Ritz crackers.
It's just the thought of you just taking a piece of cheese and That It sounds disgusting. But it's not. It shouldn't sound disgusting. It does. I actually think I would be revolted if you were you were to do that.
Jesus Christ. So we'll see what happens there. I think what's interesting is how many people were so excited about the Thunder not getting a higher pick. I don't think. You know, you know where we're at with like the Chiefs, where everyone's like, oh, fuck the Chiefs.
Mm-hmm. At the beginning of the Chiefs dynasty, we were not like that. We were happy for Andy Reid. We knew Mahomes should get one. Get over it quickly, though.
Now everyone's like, fuck it. But the thunder. They were like, oh, this fucking sucks. Right as it happened. Nobody, nobody.
wants the thunder to be good. Like, and it's not even like, you know, if the Yankees are good or Duke's good or the Lakers are good, you know, these other teams that have that bandwagon. There's no Thunder fans outside of Oklahoma. Nobody likes them. Yeah, and you know And it might be different if Because one of the things against the Thunder is they're the Sonics.
If the Sonics would have come back, because the Ravens are the Browns. Yes.
But the Browns came back within three years.
So everyone's like the Ravens are not the Browns. They're the Ravens. But the Thunder have been. There's still, there's no sonics yet.
So the Thunder have to wear that. And they have to wear that they're smart, and they have to wear that. They like did this all in the weird area where Adam Silver. Has changed all these rules. And the time to be bad was when the thunder were bad, and they're still going to benefit from.
the second apron and this lottery, like they got everything passed. There just has no one's happy for the thunder. at all. No. And oh, the way they play and Shay and the exactly what it is, right there, they're not entertaining to watch.
It is the last game, I think. Product Shea had a play where he like. Just ran into the paint and was like, and there was no follow. And like, I was stunned. Uh Yeah, they are not entertaining to watch at all.
They're good. They're good, but like do you outside of being a Thunder fan, do you want to sit down and watch them for 48 minutes, you're like This is fucking boring. Liberty Mutual customizes your car and home insurance, and now we're customizing this rush hour ad to keep you calm, which could help your driving. And science says therapy is great for a healthy mindset, so enjoy this 14-second session on us. I think you've done everything right and absolutely nothing wrong.
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And then the Lakers have done the Timberwolves, Spurs, Knicks, Pistons, whoever comes out. They might have done them a little bit of a favor. You can kind of see the cracks in the armor with Thunder a little bit. I don't think that they can win another championship without WhatsApp Face. Uh Jay Williams.
Like they need him back. Maybe. When's he coming back? Still have no idea. Mm.
Foghorn Leghorn says they're going to be your Knicks in the finals. My next question is. Carlos, Carlos is a Cubs, Bulls, Knicks, Rangers, or no, Cubs, Bulls, Giants, Rangers. Two New Yorks and two Chicago's. I was looking for my Bulls paraphernalia.
Apparently, it's all in my bedroom. Like, yeah, no, I don't. I want to put this out there for everybody listening and viewing. I don't give one hoot about the Knicks. I don't give a shit.
I'm a Bulls fan. I grew up in the 90s, Jordan era. I can't be anything but a Bulls fan.
So, how are you not a Bears fan again? I didn't watch football until I moved to New York. Very strange. I shit you not. My mother did not want me involved in sports.
I had to do all my sports viewing and playing and all that stuff basically behind her back. She didn't know I had been playing baseball until one of the coaches came to my house and asked why I missed practice. And she went, I remember that story. She's like, and she's like, what the hell are you talking about? And then beat my ass.
But at that point, I'm like, I'm already strong.
So I'm like. I'm just absorbing her hits like. You know, Thanos fighting Squirrel Girl. Um But yeah, so like I didn't get I so I got into split. Oh, she really like beat you up?
Oh, my mom used was beating my ass since I was like four. Like she would put she would no hesitation to put hands on me.
So she tried, but at this point, again, I'm like, I'm like, just, I'm like, you're embarrassing yourself. As I'm taking like hits to the chest, I'm like, what are you doing here? Uh that being said. Yeah, so I didn't watch football until I got to New York because Um I don't think I had like real Like Bears fans or football fans, like friends, like in school and shit like that. Like, everyone loved the Bulls, everyone loved the Cubs.
You know, the Bears were like, all right, they were there. And then when I moved to New York, you know, it was early enough that it was before the Super Bowl run with Eli, because I got into the Giants fandom when they lost to the 49ers in that broken fire drill play at the end of the game. That's when I became a Giants fan.
So I'm no fraud. You know, it wasn't like Eli got drafted. Then, what was the center's name? His name always is Stahlberg or some shit. Dan, something we'll find out.
Yeah. And then he, like, apologized. Dan, it's not Dan Dahlbert. What'd you type in? Giants Center 49ers?
Giants 49ers playoff history. Let's see. Give me that center's name. It was 2002. Yep.
The 49ers completed the massive comeback. All right. I could find it quicker than you can. You probably can, but I'm still going through it. Giants long snapper choke job.
Trey Junkin. Oh, I got Zach O'Donnell. Diazy. Can't be because he was later in he was he went on the later years of the Giants. Trey Junkin.
Trey Duncan. Yeah. Who was I thinking of? Dahlbert? Rich Cyberbeggy?
Trey Junkin is now 65 years old. Wow. Oh, and he was like barely with the Giants. Yeah. The giants he Oh my god, poor guy.
He started in the NFL in 1983. He played for the Bills, Redskins, Raiders, Seahawks, Raiders, Cardinals, Cowboys, and then Giants were his last team. He ta They coaxed him, but he was retired. But he had to fill in for Dan O'Leary. And then he botched a snap.
Yeah, because I remember Matt Allen grabbed the ball and he's like, holy shit, what am I supposed to do with this? And that's where it became a broken fire drill. It would have won the game for the Giants, who were up 38 to 14. It's the second largest playoff comeback history. That one I know.
The referees missed an obvious pass interference, by the way, at that play. And the Giants should have had another crack at the field goal. But hey, what do I know? This guy had a 19-year career. as a long snapper.
No one knows who he is. He can retire. Be anonymous, still sign autographs at things. You know? Like, I know some names of Packers, long snappers.
But I can't recognize them if I was walking down the street and saw them. I wouldn't recognize them. This guy has the perfect life. 19 years in the NFL.
Now he didn't win a Super Bowl, but 19 years in the NFL. Is going to be set financially. He can go coach or something, still sign autographs. He retires. And then the Giants coax him back, and the one play he's remembered for is after his retirement.
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Two other things I want to bring up to you, the NL Central. Your Cubs were just on a nice run.
Lost a couple games, but they're still everyone's over 500. Uh-huh. Brewers swept the Yankees. How are people doing with that? I'm not happy because now people are starting to think that the Yankees might be a little bit fraudulent.
They're bringing up the Yankees' record against winning teams. Cool.
So, yeah, I actually thank the Brewers. Because now I get to hear uh some compelling radio this next week. About how the Yankees could be deemed fraudulent, and where are some of the glaring weaknesses about that, which is completely stupid because the American League is softer than baby shit. Yeah, Brewers and Cubs finally play each other next week in Chicago. Yeah, I have no interest in watching this series.
Um but the Brewers up to this point And up to that series. They have only played five games against the National League Central. And they've played six against the Nationals. Yeah. So, a lot of why I think the National League Central.
Everyone's over 500 isn't played each other yet. They're doing well against the other divisions. That's great. On a scale of one to ten funny, this show is about a three or a four. That's from You understand, we're not getting paid to do this anymore.
We're getting paid to do this. I can understand the entertainment being a factor in anything we do. I'm doing this out of the goodness of my heart. I'm having lunch. Wow, fuck my fork.
Yeah. I took a name this morning. You can tell where my priorities are. I said, Are you back from your thing? I'll send a link shortly.
I took a nap. I'm here. We're real committed. All I was thinking about was Treb, who watches this on and for like 10 minutes on his Monday lunch break. I didn't even hear from him.
Fucking people are lucky I still do this. I I think we'd still be going through May. I think I've been doing this on May 11th. I thought I'd be working. It's pretty funny, but not family guy funny.
I still watch Family Guy. Family Guy is still funny. Family Guy. Family Family Guy has jokes that like... I just can't believe are even still on T V.
Like family guy still Family guy, the jokes Family Guy has on TV is just like buried on Fox Sunday nights, and no one's watching. There's like 900,000 people at Bob's Burger block there. Yeah, animation domination. Mm. But if these jokes were told in like 1992, George H.W.
Bush would make him the enemy instead of the Simpsons. The Simpsons are so lame. In nineteen ninety two. But like I couldn't watch it. I I was banned from The Simpsons for a while.
Yeah. And then my parents gave up, and we watched two hours every night in syndication. I'm really lamenting the fact that we don't have a monoculture anymore. It really bothers me. Everybody's fragmented.
Everybody's in their own world. There's no more prime time viewing. Outside of sports. Because you're not gonna go you're not gonna DVR a fucking you know baseball game I heard a song. What was the song?
I heard a song. We were playing, you know, Spotify in the car, but I heard a song and. It was from the 90s, and I was like, this was such a banger, and everyone loved it. Like, what's the last new song that made an impact? Oh, no, the music is demon hunters.
Maybe, because that song's collapsed. The whole album fucking slaps. But what's like the last song that you're like Because I saw this picture of Michael Jackson with a crowd of, you know, saw Patrick Lamar. Oh, yeah, Kendra. But even still, Kendrick Lamar had this big Like We were on the air that night because I was on Twitter and like everyone's talking about Kendrick.
I'm like. Fuck's happening. Because he put out an album. And then Drake and Kendrick. And then Kendrick plays the Super Bowl.
And Bad Bunny does the Super Bowl. And a lot of people are hearing these songs for the first time. Yeah, it's insane to me that people were not introduced to Bad Bunny music prior to the Super Bowl. How is that possible? The guy's the number one global selling artist and people still didn't know who he was.
Because no one does anything at the same time anymore. Nobody watches anything. And then w I'm trying to be like, oh, I have a podcast too, and then. Albums, CDs used to drop at Tuesdays. There's people listening to this, it's Thursday the 14th.
Yeah. This is about the next one. That's hard to fathom. Imagine listening to this. Imagine listening to the sound of my voice saying this statement right now.
And it's Saturday at 3 a.m. Like where you are. Like six days after a fact. I commend you, good sir or ma'am, that's listening to me. I wanna know where you're from and what you're doing.
That looked like a good bite of chicken. Oh, it's delicious. I can't wait to ink both this plate right now. What's the weirdest thing you've ever eaten? Was that my wife?
Two. Oh, so good. No, Ben, you're not attacked. Ben's watching live. He's not attacked.
And you got and you got uh Carlos stopping me in my tracks. Oh man, so good. I drank pea once. Ow. Yeah.
Hell's wrong with you?
Well, there was a Gatorade bottle. Oh, no. In a gym. In the locker room, and I was like, oh, it's Gatorade. I didn't, and then I drank it.
I was like, what the fuck? And I tell my buddies like, dude. I pissed in there. Oh my god, that's disgusting. Oh, Ben missed 30 minutes, so he's going to re-listen.
Well, but you listen to the part where Carlos, you're not going to, you're good. You didn't, you're good. You already, you're good. You know what I did once with my buddies? Uh I smoked peanuts.
I think I um They thought smoking peanuts would get you high. I mean, they're idiots. I didn't smoke. I didn't smoke. I didn't do pot even.
I didn't. I didn't drink and I so I didn't do anything bad. By smoked peanuts. And then there were like these vitamins, it wasn't C, there were these weird vitamins that we took that we thought was gonna get us fucked up. Were they shaped like Flynn Zone's characters?
I don't remember. It was at my friend Rob's house. We also all put sun in our hair.
So we could be blonde. I went through that phase too. Everyone bleached their hair for some ungodly reason. But that was a thing everyone did. We don't have that anymore.
No, we're not we're no longer communal. Because everything is on demand. And everyone's demands are different. We've gotten away from that as a society. I miss that.
I miss when we, you know, when is it the news used to ask? It's 10 o'clock. Do you know where your children are? The answer used to be yes.
Now the answer is no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Now it's I know exactly where my kid is. Yeah, I can tell you they're, according to their Apple Watch, they are on the corner of Montrose and Viter, you know. But it's our fault. I am a kid who, even with like, I would say, stricter parents. As in, where are you?
I would still walk home by myself with friends and always We would go under the you know, those things once I hit 13, I was running these streets. Yeah. But But like now I go pick up my kid at the park I live right down the street from the school. I don't be like, hey, buddy, you want to play for a half hour? I'll come back in a half hour.
I'm there. Watching him.
So We always say, like, oh, kids these days can't do anything. Yeah, we're the parents now. It's your fault today that can't do shit. My fault. Or the parents.
We're not letting him do anything. Because we know We used to do some fucking dumb shit. And we don't want our kids doing the dumb shit. Because I say I was out running these streets when I was 13 years old. I was doing some pretty dumb, somewhat illegal shit.
Oh yeah.
So, I don't want my kid doing the stuff that I did because I'd be like. I'd number one, I'd be a hypocrite because I'd be like, hey, why are you doing that? Because I used to do it, you know, like, and number two, you want your children to be better than you. But by doing, by having that mentality, you want them to be better, you're inherently going to not allow them to run the streets after 13 years old. Chad says this is the type of content that needs to be back on terrestrial radio.
I won't disagree with that. Steal Your Face says drinking pee is not as bad as drinking a giant Gatorade bottle of dip spit. Oh, I fucking did that too. I've seen that happen plenty of times. I was in the army for 12 years.
Yeah, my mountain doo can as a spitter, and I fucking chugged it. Yeah, I actually do remember that story. Still gross. The other thing I just want to bring up was We watched WWE again this weekend, Backlash. Yeah, very disappointing.
And also, you have to watch it with a kid.
Well, number one, I don't have it all. He loves everything about it. Your kid can't possibly love this stuff the way I loved it in the attitude era when I was a kid. Like This is different. That's true.
I think Danhausen would have played in any era. I think Dan Hausen is timeless. Like, I shit you not. I think that act is I can see why it's so over. It's not even funny.
He's not even funny. No, but no, he is. He's entertaining. I'll pick up my kid today. He'll look at me.
He'll go, Daddy. What? You are cursed. Yeah. And then fuck, you're cursed.
You are. Yeah. Speaking of Dan Hausen, Keith McPherson. Got cursed by Donald. I saw that.
Yeah. And Keith, like how people didn't know Bad Bunny's music, Keith didn't know who Danhausen was. He had no idea. And then Dan Hausen quoted him. Yes.
And as a result, I'm sure Keith is even bigger than who he was before. He's not his husband. Keitha, yeah, key thousand. What's he doing now? He's got his own podcast or something.
It seems like he's doing his own digital show. He has like a studio set up and everything. It looks very nice, very professional. I'm like, this studio setup's not good. It's not in a basement.
It looks like a TV set. Like, I haven't talked to Keith about it. This doesn't look like a T V set. No. Now it looks better than where I'm sitting, but No.
Where's my neighbor's house? Yeah. I only see the fact that it's a basement. It's a nice basement. I don't have a basement.
Too big. I I gotta finish it. Yeah, oh, you definitely gotta finish it. I'm going to die in a basement when I inevitably buy my house at the age of 16. 13 fucking years.
And the big selling point for me to buy this house was: I can finish the basement. And you haven't done it. Nope. All right, bud. Good to see you.
Glad you enjoyed the chicken. Yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks for letting me have lunch, everybody. This is great. I would have just eaten on the couch by myself with my dog.
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