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Good evening, everybody. Welcome into the Winklerverse. I'm Bart Winkler. It is Friday night, April 24th, and I could not resist. Not doing some sort of draft show.
No, I'm not in a luxurious radio studio or on site at some hip bar. I'm in my basement where I always am, but I'm on with you, Twitter. What else am I on Facebook? and YouTube. I want to be on Instagram, but then I have to pay to have a fourth service.
I don't know. Is Instagram better than Facebook? Facebook, I get a lot of traction on Facebook. I think um I think I'm going to keep riding Facebook. Here's something I want to say off the top: LeBron James threw an alley oop to Bronnie James tonight.
LeBron James threw an alley oop to someone he literally created. That alone, like. I've I don't know I I didn't watch it. I'm not watching these games on Amazon Prime because I can't flip back and forth. We've had wrestling on in the house tonight, although we'll catch the last hour of SmackDown tomorrow.
We're watching the Brewers. Lose again. Wis goin' for That's pretty sweet. And we've also got obviously the Packers draft.
So they've made two picks. I'm talking to you or with you. I'll throw out the link. I'm talking with you as round three is going on. They've already traded up.
Further into round three, I don't. Foresee them trading back into round three, but if they do. We'll discuss it. Their next pick would be the 20th pick in round four.
So we're around 120, I think that would be. Brandon Cece, cornerback, South Carolina. Was the selection? At pick number 52. And then in the second round, they traded up to the 13th pick in the third round.
In the third round, they traded up for Chris McClellan. A defensive tackle for Missouri. I feel like the Packers. I feel like the Packers have had Chris McClellan on their roster every year since the 80s. Maybe not, but that just seems like a very.
Familiar kind of name. But they're both now Packers. I think these seem to be good picks. Look. I I I am not going to do This breakdown that I give you isn't gonna be like good.
Um it's not gonna be bad. But it's not going to be good. I'll just like tell you. I'll just tell you what I would do. If I was broadcasting A show on a radio station.
Cause I, you know, on the podcast, I could be a little crazy and loosey-goosey. But on a radio station, I got to break it down. And in the second and third round, I just I don't I'm not this doesn't fascinate me. I don't know. I'm interested in who the Packers are acquiring.
I don't think I don't have the appetite. I personally don't have the appetite. to like Cram information about who these guys are. I want to know who they are. I'll see the tape that that the networks show us.
And then I'm probably good, and then I'll see what happens in training camp. And I'm not saying this kind of stuff to be like contrarian, and I'm not saying it to be like. lazy. I'm not saying uh it for any of that kind of stuff. I'm saying it because The draft stuff.
Is uh The draft stuff I'm just texting someone to maybe come on. The draft stuff is fun and exciting, and I've been watching a lot of it. And there's a lot like to talk about. But once you get in. To these late stage rounds, once you get into these late stage rounds.
We are all looking for information together and i think my disconnect is The people, like I think I've been watching some of the different coverages. I think Andy Herman, I'll shout him out. You guys have probably, if you've checked me out at this point, you've probably watched some of Andy's stuff. These names get called and Andy knows who they are. And not just that, but a lot more about them.
Okay, I've watched a lot of college football. I love college football. I'm not too familiar with Brandon Cecil. or Chris McClellan.
So you Might say, oh, Bart's going live. I want to find out what he's got to say about these guys. I'm just going to read the same shit by now. That you've already read.
So, if I'll just do it. If I mean, if this is first for you, okay. CSA can easily. No, I can't do it like this. I have to.
I have to do it as if I. I'm coming up with it on my own. Let's just do it that way. All right, so Brandon Cease, they pick him uh number 52. Love the pick.
This is a guy, he can mirror releases, he can reroute receivers and press coverage.
Sometimes, in the short areas, he'll get caught trying to change directions against like shiftier guys. But when he's off coverage, he'll flash the ability to make quick reads. He's got length, so he can break up passes from a trailing position. And then, when it's time to compete for 50-50 balls, he He has the vertical explosion to do that. He can do a really good job of contorting and controlling his body, which is going to avoid contact with receivers.
Although he can grab at the top of routes. But as a run defender, he does a really good job getting a ball carrier to the ground.
Sometimes he'll miss tackles because he's like an ankle kind of guy.
So, that I just read and then, you know, shifted it up a little bit. Here, I'll show you how. This is another, I was talking to Grant today. About The skills that I have in radio that are not transferable to any fucking other job in the world. And I think looking at something without reading it.
And then saying it in my voice. I think that is a skill.
So, if you can see this at all, maybe I'll remove myself. Um None of okay, that didn't work, but anyway. Uh, let's just throw that back up there. All right.
So, oh, you know what? I could do I could make it bigger, I could make it. Nice and big, nice and big.
Okay, can we all see that now?
So there, I've never read that before. And I'm going to read that here.
So, McClellan, this is a guy who played all of his collegiate football in the SEC. He was at Florida first, then Missouri. This past season, he got to the quarterback, took him down six sacks. He's got a really good frame, he can occupy blockers. He'll allow linebackers to play downhill and run support because he's the guy kind of sucking it up.
And he plays with heavy hands.
Okay, that's a thing that you hear a lot. He plays with that, he does a really good job controlling the gap. Especially, and this is important, especially at the point of attack. And he's got the strength to anchor and then take on double teams.
So if you got Micah Parsons running around, he'll be looking at double teams. McClellan's the kind of guy that can do that. As well. He could play a little too high.
So he can get washed out of the play, a phrase I've never said in my natural speaking style. But that is something that might happen to him. Despite his strength, the Packers need a guy like this. Their best interior lineman, Javon Hargrave, is 33.
So this is a. This is a clear need.
So that's kind of the that's kind of the stuff that people do and essentially that I've done for a long time.
Some of the comments coming in right away. Is Grant passed out in the big unit cruiser? I do not believe he is. Dual leap up. Tom says, Lucas Van Ness is the Packers' number one pass rusher comes September 15th.
Uh yikes. Tyler says, tough to be on the right side of history if you're still talking about Wisco. I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. The brewers touted these uniforms. I said they were dog shit, and now they're playing like dog shit in them.
And what is encouraging is that that message has gotten out there and that I get to wear it because people are tweeting me: I wonder what at Bart Winkler Show is doing. Oh, I'm fucking rooting against them when they're wearing these jerseys. They're fucking stupid. I don't care. I'm glad they didn't get no hit.
That would have been a little too much for me. But I'm glad they didn't get no hit. Bryn says, love the 90s roller rink. Cup hat. Andrew Wagner is in his home studios.
Join us tonight. I hit my best friend. Not buddy. The Brewers should really consider going out and acquiring Chris Thale before their next Friday night home game. That's my expert analysis.
Yeah, you want him to go do that? Yeah.
Well, when you're facing Paul Skeens, you're going to lose. Oh, I don't even care about the pitching part of it, but remember what Sale did in Chicago. when they had those hideous throwbacks on a day he was supposed to pitch. And he went in the locker room and like Cut up every took scissors and cut up. I didn't know that.
Oh, God. Yeah, look it up. He he destroyed like all 40 jerseys.
So they couldn't wear these throwback jerseys that were advertised, that were promoted, that the White Sox were, I think they were doing a giveaway, and Sale ended up getting suspended for it.
Well, yeah, all right, let's get them. Or just somebody else like. The brewers are going to be picking these guys up and cutting them. For 10 days, that Matos guy's the latest. Why don't we we just need one of those guys to step up and be the hero?
Yeah, they stink right now. But at the same time, I mean. You're playing without three studs, right? You're playing without Churio, you're playing without Yellich, you're playing without Vaughan. Um It's not overly surprising that you're going to struggle, especially against a guy like Skeems, against a guy like Scoobel, although.
They handled themselves pretty well yesterday until they shit to bed in the late innings. Yeah.
Well, anyway, maybe they'll win tomorrow if they're not wearing those jerseys. I don't think they're doing the full weekend bullshit. Again, but apparently they sold really well, or at least that's what the brewers are telling you. That's all that matters. Listen, there's no one that, that, that.
Pats themselves on the back more than the brewer's marketing department. Let me tell you, they uh They sure do love themselves. Um let me Show you This hat. You may have seen my story about it. Do you see how?
Yeah, I saw you had a, I thought it was retired. Uh For good after your tweet earlier today. I saw it's back and I. I quoted Chris Rock. Uh on Twitter.
Who famously said, take off that silly ass hat.
So, this may have to be the last night. I've been wearing this Dixie Cup style hat for a long time. And I was at the crosswalk today. And I've been having, I've been, it's been building up for me. The, we'll get to the draft, maybe we won't.
But I've been building this. This crosswalk's driving me nuts. Cause I'm in the crosswalk and typically I'll wait until there's a time to go. But also, sometimes I'm like, okay, stop for me. It's in front of a school, it's very well established, you need to slow down here.
There are lights. At both intersections elsewhere.
So people are already annoyed with getting light, light, and then don't want to stop for. People walking.
Okay.
So I had enough today. Nobody was slowing down.
So I said, I'm going to make this guy slow down. I just whipped my hat. I just whip my hat into the um Street. And I And and I can't like so that's a very bart move. But I can't be mad at the guy because then he swerved to make sure he ran it over.
Which is probably what I would have done had the situation been presented to me.
So it is, it's got the tire tracks, it's all bent up. I could throw it in the dishwasher, I guess, but I think I'm going to wear this with pride. Also, can I say first, can you like, can you lean back?
So we get the full view of the okay.
So as you know, I live out in uh Spoiled lake country country. temporary landing spot. And you look. Like every D-bag. that comes into the bar After shooting golf all day, you've got the under armor golf polo, the flat brim, high-crown hat, like.
I would be shocked if you're not drinking like carbless seltzers and talking about your round. Here's an Alde Lake Country golf donkey look to a T. I was not going to wear this shirt today, but I put it on because I did a hit on Channel 12. I thought I'd wear a nicer shirt. But I really hate that like.
There's a gulf. I hate that you can look at someone. Like you can look at someone that they just went bowling. You probably don't know. You can look at someone, they just went to the, you know, batting cages.
You probably don't know. But if you look at someone, you can tell, oh, you just went golfing. I hate that there's a golf look, and I don't subscribe to it, even though I do. I am douching it up tonight. The golf look and the dart league look are like just.
They're just giveaways. Like, bar softball jerseys look totally fine. Bar hockey hockey jerseys, totally fine. But, like, the bar dart jersey thing really throws me for a loop. Like, you need jerseys for that.
And then they're always like. Just weird. But Grumpy or I am comments before I got you in here. I was just talking about how the draft. Coverage is good when it's done by people who do the research.
Um otherwise, and I've I've been one of them. I'm being one of them right now, I suppose. I was certainly one of them last year. Last year I went to the draft. All I really talked about was Shadur Sanders.
I didn't know a lot of shit that was going on. Yeah.
I don't understand. And it's different on my end. Like from my background as a print guy, like. I don't understand the obsession people have with the draft, both like from a fan standpoint and from the analysis standpoint. Like, I would listen to, well, obviously, not your show, but other radio shows after the draft, and everyone's breaking down how, like, how do you know how these guys are going to fit?
They've never played an NFL snap, you know, nothing about them other than what they did in college. Like, I I don't get the obsession.
Well, it's you know, there hasn't been a lot of football in a while and it's a chance to Get into that. Also, it's you know, you're plugging. I mean, I get why people like the draft. I get why people like the draft. I like the draft.
How was it? How was it going there? It seemed like I. Did you like it? I'm done pretending.
Oh, okay. That I know. Like I am not An expert on these guys. And I think most people, if you're coming into the Winklerverse at whatever time you're going to get this podcast. I think, okay, what does Bard think about the picks?
I'll tell you what I think generically. But I'm not going to break down if that's what you're looking for. I'm not that guy.
Okay, why am I saying that? Because I think there's still way too many people. That are pretending to be those kind of guys. And that's my gripe. That's my gripe with draft coverage.
Like, how can you be an expert on this stuff? Like, you don't. You know what they did in college, but we know for a fact that they're two completely different games. different speeds, different sizes, different strengths. What is there to really break down?
And I get it, it makes for good content. Like, I understand that's how the world works. But you hit the nail on the head. These dudes that pretend that they're these experts and like. Shut up.
Up.
Well, like the okay, so the cornerback, Brandon Cecil, the Packers drafted. I didn't know anything about him. I'm watching his tape, he looks pretty good. There's people that are like, hey, this guy looks pretty good. And then I say, you know, he better fucking look good.
He's the 50-second pick of the draft. And then, so that makes him what corner that was taken. Top 10 corner, like he better be good. He better be good. And then people are like, oh, well, in this mock, he was 38.
Whatever. I'll get into that in a second. I don't think. The mock traps are the thing that pissed me off the most. Like, number one.
Who the hell has that much time with nothing better to do than sit and predict? Where these guys are going to get picked. How's a whole internet? I just talked to a guy this week who his thing is. He puts together the mocks to see what the mocks of the mocks are.
That ma just hearing that makes me want to drink. A.J. Buck says, name names. I'll name a name. Me.
You know what I never you know what I never I never fucking understood this. Night one of the draft. I'm going back to the fan. eight years ago, night one of the draft. It's On location.
It's Bill Michaels. It's Gary Ellerson. It's Mike Clemens. This is our A Packer lineup.
Okay, this is our A lineup of Packer guys. They cover every game. They talk about them the most. They got the most knowledge on what's going on. These are the guys talking, and they're talking about the round one picks, which we can all kind of fabricate something.
And then the night two coverage is like me. Just in the fucking studio. Like, no, you. Put Take me off completely. Put your aid team on the like They need to be the ones to break down the coverage.
I don't know shit. I remember my first stink at 1250. They actually had they pulled me up because I was. Remember, I was one of the first employees of that station. I think I'm the only.
Person to be shit canned from that place twice. But I was originally their brewers in Bucksky, and they pulled me off the brewers to anchor and host. their draft coverage that first year, in whatever it was, 2005, like. That me, the guy that doesn't watch football other than watching the Bengals lose on Sunday, and I'm like, I'm getting pulled off my beat to like host this shit. Yeah, that was a great move.
I d I d I feel like This should be if there's one night. We're radio stations across a market. Put their efforts together. Like, we only need one show. We don't need.
I've always thought like And I've talked to you about this in the past. That on draft night, a great show would be. We're going to tell you who the use the Packers. We're going to tell you who the Packers drafted. Great.
But we're going to spend this night going over everybody they picked a year ago. and how they fared. Instead of sitting here and trying to pretend that we know how they're gonna play out in the NFL when they've never. Played at NFL snap, like spend draft night looking over the last draft and doing a review of that, because at least you have a body of knowledge and like. Evidence to support things.
But again, last year we had Matthew Golden.
Okay.
Anthony Belton, I don't know what he's doing. Didn't Golden do jack shit until like the playoffs? He had one touchdown or something like that.
Well, that was a failure of coaching, I believe. Yeah.
Baron Sorrell did well. Colin Oliver. Yeah, I mean The top three guys were Golden, Belton. And he's not And then Savion Williams, who they like. They they they kept forcing packages for him instead of actually playing Golden.
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Secure your play and go to ipvanish.com. Bart, ask Wagner why he got fired twice. Just Uh You said it. That'll be a separate episode.
Well, we get two episodes out of it. Yeah.
Exactly. What are you doing tonight? Like, do you wanna hang out for a while or? I got nothing to do. I just got back from the gym.
I just saw you retweeted the thing, so I thought I'd. Give it a link.
Well, I just want to make fun of your hat because I really hate that hat.
Well, there's actually an article, and I'll find it for you. It was like. Maybe a month ago. Like some magazine did a sit-down, in-depth interview with the person that designed that hat. Design that pushes.
Dixie couple of guys. I think there was a woman.
Now, oh, my bad to assume. Wow, very bad of me. Here's another thing. If anybody wants to, please. Please put in a request.
I have sound. I have cuts I can play. From Brandon Cecil. I can play sound from Packers National Scout Mike Owen. I could play sound from Milt Hendrickson, Director of Football Operations.
I can play. Yeah, I I could play that raw. And this is the thing on these shows. We'd just be like, all right, guys, here's 12 minutes from it, would always be John Eric Sullivan, who's now with the Dolphins. It's like we would play it so that we didn't have to talk anymore.
But if you're listening, I just can't believe you're driving around listening. I need the latest Packers coverage. Oh, thank Christ, this radio station's playing Milt Hendrickson. What a great name for a scout. And Nick Hendrickson.
I think he's like, is he a lacrosse guy too? I think he might always forget. I always forget that Goody is a lacrosse guy. Yeah, I don't know if you've noticed. I know you bitched about this before, and I'm preaching the.
I don't criticize Goody, by the way, because of that. Really? How is he not on the hot seat? I think, um I think more of it is. Goody Goody's been more.
Goody, who did I just talk to about this? Ty Dunn, I think? Yeah, Ty Dunn. I just talked to you about this. I like Ty.
I didn't realize that he also has good taste in music.
So I need to talk to Ty Dunn about that. Golongtd.com, Substack. Um He said that Remember the Packers for a long time. They were like, we need dogs on the defense. But then they wouldn't they wouldn't bring any in.
It was just like a bunch of guys that are like. But now they're bringing in these kind of guys. And then Lafleur's like, no, no, no, we're not gonna. We're not gonna like Jordan Love got his bell rung in Denver and The coaches are like, back up, back up, don't, don't, don't, whatever. You know.
Do you want to answer this comment or not? What's that? Does Wagner not go to Brewers' games anymore? Nope, Wagner does not go to Brewers' games anymore. He has been freed of the wrath.
Brewer's Media Relations. He is a civilian now. It's glorious. Lucas Van Ness and Rashawn Gary, get your seat warm. Rashawn Gary is actually a cowboy.
Even I knew that. And I watched like eight minutes of the Packers last season. I knew that. He was traded for my God, Micah Parsons, right? No, he should have been.
They traded Kenny Clark there. Kenny Clark. And then he signed with the Cowboys after the fact.
So That was close. Yeah, no, very good. Very, very, very good. I don't believe the Packers have made any more picks. They traded up for one.
What did your bangles do? I honest to God don't know because I don't. People think that I'm bullshitting when I say this, or I'm just being my usual hate. I don't watch the draft. Like I don't I would go to the bar.
What do they need? What do the Bengals need? Miracles A new owner. They need Mike Brown to die. That was the only thing that I saw.
They show. And I actually got in trouble for it. Um When I was sitting on the on the elliptical. I must have just missed a pick. I think they picked a cornerback or something.
And I. They showed the war room and everyone was like, you know. Ass grabbing each other in celebration, then dumb old Mike Brown is sitting there scribbling away, and I. flipped off the flipped off the T V and you know Thought I was saying it quietly, but because I had my headphones on, I didn't realize how loud I was. I said.
Fuck you and die. Um And it was a little bit louder than I realized it was, and some people thought that I may have been talking to people in the gym. Um, so I had a member of the planet fitness staff come over and Ask if everything was okay. I'm like, oh no, just the Cincinnati Bengals. And fortunately, the employee was an NFL fan.
I need to say no more. Yeah.
Yeah, just random guy yelling me, fuck you. They need an offensive line to protect Joe Burrow because he is going to die. Um And they need defense. They drafted an edge guy and a corner. Yeah.
Which were two things they need. Like they need help. On their lines, both offense and defense, it's atrocious. I mean, it is. The offense, especially, because again, Joe Burrow has not proven to be durable to start with, and he's getting his ass glued to the turf.
More than just about anybody else in the league. And it's Like the guy's going to get seriously hurt, more so than usual, if they don't do anything to protect him. It's getting ridiculous, especially with the offensive weapons that he has. Like, there's no reason that he should be running for his life every time he takes the snap. Like, it's pathetic.
But also, defense has been that issue for that organization now. Since Joe Burrow came on, I mean, they got to the Super Bowl, I will openly admit. On pure luck. I mean, they had every break going for them, and they were out-scoring teams. They can't stop teams from scoring.
And it's It screwed them. Yeah, they're bad. I did want to say something about the draft in general, if I may. Yeah.
So, I was going to get on here this afternoon. I was going to get on here about noon. I brought my laptop down. I set up. I don't know if this has ever happened to you.
My body just like shut off. It was like, you need to go to bed right the fuck now.
So I went and took a nap. I had a weird dream that I couldn't see. Thought I was going to the hospital. Got out of the haze. It was really fucked up.
I'm like, I feel like I might have died. Anyway, I wanted to, that was a Tim, I wanted to. Talk about The Rams. The Rams took Ty Simpson. Quarterback Alabama at pick number 13.
And Ty Simpson was not mocked or projected to be a first-round pick, really. at all. And then Sean McVay was at the press conference afterwards. with the GM. Less need.
And it seemed like Sean McVay was very upset about it. Albert Breer had the report. Rams GM Les Sneed and UT Martin coach Jason Simpson have a very strong relationship to the point where Sneed helped advise the family when Jason's son Ty was making the decision on whether or not to declare for the draft. He told them, your kid is a first round pick. And then he became a first round pick by being at number 13.
To the team that they were getting advice from. I'll say this about Ty Simpson, because this is a lot of where my draft. Coverage is. I don't think Getting all Get like, oh, I like any of the Packers guys. Oh, well, they took them 20 picks higher than they should have, or they took them 15.
They could have got them later. You don't know that.
Okay, if you have a pick. or you want to move up to get a pick. You've done, I assume, years of scouting on these guys. And if you think they're a fit, if this is what you want, you go get him. I hate in fantasy football drafts where you'll make a pick and everyone will go reach, reach, reach, because you're all looking at the same three fucking oh, the morning of I better get the ESPN and Yahoo and fucking do whatever.
And it's like reach, reach, and you're you got to take a drink after a bad round, but then that guy ends up winning you. A championship. I think the Rams probably, if you looked at the board, okay, we can probably trade down still and still get Ty Simpson at even 20 or 21. But even that is a risk you're taking. You don't know what's moving.
There was a big story on that on ESPN today about the story behind them making that pick, and they. Didn't bring anybody in for workouts. They didn't go to any. They never do. They're so secretive, the Rams.
Yeah.
They won't interview anyone. They don't go to the combine. Yeah.
So they kind of prove your point. Like they had their eye on this guy. They've done all their homework. Yeah.
He was on their board. He was there at their pick. Let's not BS our way around it. Let's just take our guy and move on.
So he, I don't know if he'll be good. I don't know if Mendoza will be good. It seems like Mendoza will be a bust, but that's only probably because he's a quirky dude. I'm really bad at, I thought I was good at analyzing quarterbacks. I think I'm actually pretty dog shit.
But Matthew Stafford's 38. And I know he was the MVP. But he's 38. He's a quarterback.
So That's 10 years younger than me. Yeah.
Well At some point, you're going to need a quarterback.
So take the guy if they're if the guy is there, like I just It was weird. We didn't expect it, but just because we don't expect it doesn't mean it's, you know, wrong, I guess. I mean, was it wrong when the Packers drafted Jordan Love? Uh no.
Now the the the thing that you can have a debate about Is Well Shouldn't you if you're so close? Shouldn't you make sure you get a guy that can impact right away? And that's tough with quarterbacks. John Lynch goes.
Well, I've seen now, you know. Everyone's pretty much drafting on the same board. And then, you know, some teams with quarterbacks are going to get crazy. John, my brother, you got crazy. You traded three first-round picks for fucking Trey Lance.
I think that especially John Lynch is like a top 10 guy I dislike in sports, by the way. Considering how important the quarterback is. To your team, and how rare the game-changing quarterbacks are. Wherever you are in development, wherever you are as an organization, wherever you are in the draft, if your guy is there, you just take him. And worst case scenario, he sits the bench for three years behind.
You know, you're all pro starter, and you deal them for more number ones. But if the guy is on the board, And is the quarterback and is the guy, you take him no matter what. That's what I think. I d I don't I I mean again Could they have traded down? Could they have got him?
They had their guy. I don't know. Bryn says McVay is just praying his pass with Dirty Diana. In Washington doesn't come back to bite him.
Okay.
We'll go with allegedly on that one. I haven't. I am loving this story more and more every day. Like.
Well, now it wasn't even a PI that took pictures. It was just some random couple. Yeah, just some random person.
Now, people are saying, Oh, this person can get sued. I'm like, dude, no, no, it's you're you're literally. Yeah, even though it's at a private place, you are still. Just standing out there. Reasonable expectation that privacy does not exist when you're out in the open.
Like, Yeah, there's nothing. This is just what it is. You can't tap ads around it. It's 2026, man. You are being watched all the fucking time.
All the fucking time. All the time, even if you flip off a TV in the middle of Planet Fitness. Yeah.
Sometimes like You look and see in a store. Uh camera. And then you can see yourself in that camera. Yeah.
You know what that is? It's them making you think you know where the cameras are when the real cameras are hidden, watching you steal. Mm-hmm. They're hidden in the cans. Yeah, they're I always get like extra nervous.
I'm just like looking around, and I happen to see the camera and I look at it. And then I look away and like, oh, God, now they think that I'm like searching out the cameras.
Now I'm going to be suspicious.
Now, now loss prevention is going to follow me around because, you know. Voices in my head. I flip them off. Nice.
Sometimes I do a little Shot. There you go. I mean, I'm just trying to. Before the drones eventually come and hunt us down and kill us, I just want to know that I was not about, I was not pro this. is new life.
You're not going down without a fight. Yeah.
The um Twitter on this, I said you won't find less draft coverage available anywhere. Yeah.
Okay.
Can we put that on a t-shirt? If we ever do our own show, that should be our our our hallmark. The worst draft coverage in town, Winkler and Wagner. I mean, I've prepared my whole life. I don't need to prepare for every fucking show.
Yeah.
My my whole my whole life's been. Preparation. Did I have any hot takes? I did. I had some other hot takes on some other picks.
Um I don't know. I don't care. I don't really care. I think the Steelers and Eagles thing was funny. Did you see that?
Makai Lemon, the wide receiver out of USC. Was on the phone with Pittsburgh at for they were going to take him at 21. Yeah.
And then the Eagles trade it up. To take him at 20.
So he's talking to the GM of Pittsburgh. And he's like, why are the Eagles calling me? See, I like that kind of shit. That that stuff gets me interested. He thought he was going to be a Steeler.
And then it turned out he was an eagle. Yeah, I haven't watched any of it. I haven't paid attention to anything. I read that one story. on the Rams draft in Simpson while I was on the can earlier today.
That's about the extent of my. My draft awareness. People are shitting on the Cardinals. They took Jeremiah Love, running back Notre Dame at number three. That's Matt LaFleur's brothers' team.
But not Jordan loves brother. No, and they're saying you didn't need a running back at that point. You're not a running back away. I still think like Saquon got shit on, or the Giants shit on him when they took him two. And he didn't win a title with them, but he ended up winning.
He ended up winning. Um with the um With the Eagles. And if you look back at the draft, well, of course, you want to draft them there.
So I don't know about that. Do you want a live report from the ballpark? Sure. Tim Shea, where are you? We are Hold on.
I'm I'm Sorry, I just didn't expect to see you with Andrew Wagner tonight, and it's making me laugh. Um, I'm at Kelly's Bleachers here. Oh, Jesus. And do you see that in the background? Yes, and I'm pretty sure I know who that is.
Okay, ready? Ready for a special guest? There's a fourth thing. I'm gonna guess this. I know, I already know who it's gonna be.
You know who it is, so don't ruin it for Bart. Bart? All the way. From Raleigh, North Carolina. That's Raleigh.
Ha ha ha! The man who abandoned Who is the man who abandoned his own softball franchise? They're just they're all free agents. They just haven't been signed yet. Is this the second time you're back without so much as a fucking heads up?
Wow. Wow. Way to give him a heads up.
Well, are you going to cancel the show and come watch that laser show with us? Yeah.
Ah, maybe I would have. Kevin, Kevin, don't you come back one more time in the next month. You're going to be like one of those college freshmen that goes back and visits their high school every week. That's very accurate. People are gonna start creating transfer portal rumors if I keep popping up all the time around here.
Yeah.
So you came back all the way to watch the Wisco Brewers? Yeah, it was specifically, I was like, can I get a Wisco knife? And he wants a Winko Owen for Jersey, Winko Owen Ford Jersey. No, I I came up here to play softball. Oh, there you go.
Wins the game. It was Wednesday night. Our team's first. Ask them if they won. Cost me one.
You know what we don't do? We don't play in a city this guy knows about. We got out of West Dallas. Yeah, you're playing in Greenfield now, which is uh We played in that league last year, and those dudes, they. They take it.
Way too seriously. When you have tripods set up and they're filming from like six angles and they're checking their exit velocity, that's when you know you're. Yeah.
These dudes take it seriously like a pair of older. Like my age. Yeah.
They're my age and they're they're that hit tracks is their life. You know how it is. And like I just played softball so I could Drink beer, spit seeds, hit things, and talk shit to other middle-aged men. That was it. I've been doing my Jake Taylor Impression for about the last ten years.
You know who, um, you know who we played kickball against? Who? Darren Charles. Darren Schmarley. He went to Oshkosh North and then he played at Wisconsin, I think.
Oh, really? Tight end. How'd that go? They kicked our ass. That was in that was at uh hard park.
Okay, all right. Yeah.
I can see that. I assume you guys are at Kelly's Bleachers. Go in and say hi to uh. Mudcat carryan for me.
Well, Carrie Ann, I love Carrie Ann. Yeah.
What's the plan the rest of the night? But tell Kiri-Ann that Babu the Cat says hello. Wilson Wilson Warburg. Yeah.
I got it. What's on the agenda? Kevin's getting a little cold. He said it's a little cold out tonight. I've lost my thick blood, right?
That's what I said. Oh, sorry. I've lost my thick blood. He's got to get back for tomorrow for game four. For the Keynes in Ottawa.
So look at him go. He's like a little girl. Like, that's too cold out here. All right, I gotta go. Go, Brewer.
That was a great shot of Holden walking down the street. That was a great fucking shot, too. Don't forget to steal my mirror tonight. Oh, we are. I am going to McGuire's tonight.
Tonight might be the night. Danny's lost it, so. And I know you have you get your mirror. Your brain's the mirror, so. Hey.
Goodbye, love to Carrie Ann.
Okay.
Oh, I was just going to say bye, everyone at the bar around from the Bartwing. Yeah, we forgot. Totally forgot. I was just gonna say that. Damn.
Hey Bart, tell me about Carl's place. Oh, they got golf simulators.
So you can uh put one in inside.
Okay.
That's how that works. Yeah.
Any other Dan Shaney? Dan Shaney reached out to me. He said. Yeah.
He said Your shit's working. I'm like, are you surprised? He goes, kind of. He didn't say that, but a lot of you guys have been calling Dan Shaney.
So thank you. Give him a call, do the quotes. Check out the rates. Ah, very good. I'm just gonna go.
Any more hot take draft thoughts? When is the damn draft completely over? And where is it this year anyway? It's in Pittsburgh. Oh, Schittsburg.
Even God hates Pittsburgh. I love Pittsburgh.
Well, as a Bengals fan. Fuck Pittsburgh. I I Have a complaint. Corian was I'm sorry. Legorian, Wisconsin.
What's Wagner's secret to his radiant positivity and enthusiastic outlook on life? A lot of beer. A lot of whiskey. A lot of failed relationships. Uh A lot of layoffs.
and a significant amount of herbal remedies. Happy place hemp, promo code BART, 25% off. People keep I keep seeing this. Complaint that why would you go to the draft? Why would you go why would you go stand in that line and go to the draft?
And in my old age, I've discovered a new type of experience. And that is The experience that's not that fun. But it's fun to say you went.
Okay, so I will give you that. I will give you that. I did the Zach Brown extra thing for Sunday Night Baseball. Yeah, I have many, many, many questions about that. I meant to ask you last week.
when I saw the picture. Yeah, it fucking sucked, but it was fun to say I went. First of all, and I'm using this term. very liberally. Um I can't picture you at a country show.
And again, I'm using the term country. very liberally because Zach. Brown kind of falls into that shitty FM106 radio pop country crap that. I hate. Um, but I can't picture you.
at a country show. I was big into country in the summer of 2003.
Okay.
Little little watermelon crawl. They would play that Booking song. Every day at the ballpark, every single day. And it was followed by the stupid Applebee song. Like during the pregame shit, you know, after they opened the gates, two of the worst songs ever recorded.
In every single day. What was the Applebee's one? Applebee's on a date night, go to hell. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so the funny thing about this was we kept wondering as the extras: like, who's the band going to be?
We had no fucking idea who it was going to be. We knew there was a band doing Sunday Night Baseball intro. We didn't know who it was going to be. And then the Zach Brown band walks out. And Still, we were wondering who the band was going to be.
Like, nobody fucking knew it was Zach Brown. And then we're like, okay, this is Zach Brown. I hope he's not overexposed. Then he's singing the college basketball, March Madness. He like ruined the season of Survivor, people say.
How did you get invited to this thing? I just saw somebody tweet at like Sparky in them. About this thing to sign up as extras. And um Then I saw Josh Albrech there. And Josh can't talk about me on the station, so he kept having to say my person I was with 'cause they can't say my fucking name for some goddamn reason.
I know the feeling.
So, yeah, that was any other questions? I made $149.99. Really? Yeah.
Wow. Always for 200, and then there was a. There was like a fee and then there was the taxes. All to show that silly ass, the back of that silly ass hat on national television. Do you get residuals?
No, I don't think so. That's unfortunate. You need a better agent. I yeah, I need an agent. I'm my own agent, but that's the thing.
That is the thing. Is Sometimes experiences suck in the moment they suck. But I'm glad I did them. What are some other examples?
Someone said Times Square. Except you're not forced to. Time score. I saw that. I saw Bruce said that.
Time score around New Year's is definitely one of those. I've done it. Um I won't lie. You've done it. I've done it.
And as you know, I hate people. I hate happiness and I hate joy. And I had an absolute blast that night. No, it didn't hurt that I was high as a kite. Um But it was a fucking blast.
Like.
10 of 10. If you have the opportunity to do it in your lifetime once, do it. It's worth it. When did you do it? This is You got to remember the year.
I mean, that's the whole point. It was, I want to say, 2000. three, I was going out with a girl that lived in New York at the time. Did you wear a diaper? No.
How long did you stand there? Um I think like six hours. And you couldn't move or pee or do anything? No, you can move around. There are bathrooms, there's port-a-potties.
It's just like going to a packed concert. It's a pain in the ass. And I'm sure most people just hung it out and let it fly wherever, but it's not that bad. You don't have to sit there and wear a diaper.
So. Yeah, so I think like There are things like that. I don't know. I Can I think of another one? Like, this is a great topic, actually, but I can't think of another fucking one.
Well, you think of one, let's see. Bryn Westover, country is out. Bluegrass is in Billy Strings for life. Partially agree with you. Love Billy Strings.
Seen him three times. Hope his broken leg heels, but country is not out. Turnpike, Wyatt Flores, Ragweed, like. You just listen to the wrong country.
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Granger for the ones who get it done. MCO5 says hot take. I can't truly enjoy the Packers because LaFleur is the coach in the same way I can't enjoy the Brewers because I know they'll never win a World Series. They're both fun, but this is the beat for both. I don't know why people say that.
I don't believe that. I don't believe they'll never win a World Series. I actually got some guy got into an argument with me at the bar last week about this and was just spelling off how the Brewers are guaranteed to never win it because they'll never spend money like the Dodgers. You can't win a World Series unless you spend You know, at least 250 million, almost 300 million. And Nobody spends money like the Dodgers.
I'm like, well. Let's let's look at say the Phillies and the Mets. Two god-awful dog shit teams right now. who are both spending damn near three hundred million dollars. That spent damn near $300 million the last three years.
They made the playoff, I think, once in that span. Like Spending the money doesn't guarantee anything. I said this online. It's less about how much you spend and more about who you sign. Or how you spend it.
Like if you're if you're spending a shitload of money on guys. Just because of their names. It's not going to get you anywhere. And the Mets spent a ton of money on really, I mean, they went and signed Juan Soto. And where are they?
sitting in the cellar. I don't believe the Brewers will not win a World Series. And I don't believe that it's because they don't go out and sign big name free agents or they don't spend like the Dodgers. There is more than one way to win a championship. And just because the Dodgers have won the last two.
Does not mean they're going to win every single one moving forward. The Dodgers can be beaten. Chad says Winkler and Wagner experience as top-notch should be a weekly thing. Stay tuned. We have the time.
Yeah.
You've got the time, you got the sponsorship. Buckshot Bobby says it's like going to holiday events with family. It's pretty brutal, but at the end of the day, you're glad you did. I wasn't. I don't think it's.
Exactly. I have never.
Well, first of all, the last four family gatherings that I've attended have been funerals or court hearings.
So yeah, I have no real frame of reference with that. Sam says, shout out to Dan Shane. He just saved me nearly $900 on auto and home insurance. Yeah, I got to call Dan Shaney this week. Don't take my word for it.
Take Sam's. Do you believe in Bigfoot? Do you believe in aliens? Uh well yeah. Good.
I believe there's other life. I don't believe there's like. aliens like we've drawn them to be. Right.
Someone told me I was crazy because I said I don't believe that. There's no other life in outer space. That's crazy. I'm like. Space is infinite, there are billions of stars.
The chance that we are the only planet in a habitable zone around one of those stars is like slim to none. Unless Space is not real, and we're under the firmament. Sure, if you want to get biblical. Craig says, I'm in Pittsburgh and it blows. Shithole town.
I really like my time in Pittsburgh. It was a fun weekend. Those sandwiches are disgusting. Those sandwiches are absolutely disgusting. I didn't get one.
The lines were too long. Bill Schroeder rock has the best line about them. The best way to eat a Prementi Brothers sandwich is to take the entire platter. into the can. And just scrape it into the toilet and flush so you cut out the middleman and all the paperwork.
I like that.
Some other tweets that I wanted to bring up here. Draft related.
Okay.
Let me share my screen. I'll show you some of my bookmarks. Man, this is a really, really fancy part. Wow. Wow.
Uh-huh. Look at that. We could get the draft show reaction with Bill Schmidt and Wayne Larravey. Yeah hard pass. Transition from one school to another.
100%. I think. Oh, they're playing oppressor. That's sick. Um This is from College Football Kings.
During the 2023 season, the Pac-12 had. Caleb Williams, Bo Nix, Michael Penix, Travis Hunter, Cam Ward. Fernando Mendoza. Even David Bailey. Look at this.
There was a game. There was a game in the pac-12 in 2023 that none of us gave a about And then we're going to have a little bit of a market. Last year's number one. Lost to Fernando Mendoza. This year, who am I?
That is what's happening in college football, isn't that something? Wash the kid. Thanks and I find that interesting. I saved this, Andrew. This Russell Brand thing, I haven't listened to Piers Morgan and Russell Brand.
She is I haven't listened to it yet. Amount of drugs in that studio. Should I play the clip? I'm going to play the clip. I haven't watched it yet.
I want to watch it, okay?
Okay.
Can I go back to asking you a question about your Bible? Yes, if you want to. Thank you. Was that the one you took into court? You're the very one.
Okay.
What was your thinking of taking it into court? And what you were seeing looking at some passages, what were the relevant passages for you? All right.
Thank you for asking me. Thank you. I didn't hear that. A little bit. What the hell?
Um, it was this from Isaiah. And you write bare did say, you know, be chilled.
Sometimes I lose the chill man. It's pretty It's this. Honestly. Piers are just sitting there. They don't like that do they in the old gallery, but Remember you just said it's a hired spot.
This is from Isaiah. Isaiah Is he reading the Bible? I don't know. Everyone shared this like I had to watch it, and it's annoying. I can't finish this thing.
What the fuck? Jesus. Damn. I feel. feel dumber.
Shohei is 0-2 with 2Ks, and the Dodgers are up 4-0 on the Cubs in the fourth. They're unbeatable in the seven-game series. You don't think I just don't think anyone's beatable in a seven-game series. I think pitching is more important. This is the other thing I brought up, too.
It's not like the Dodgers ran the Brewers. Out of the yard in those games. Yeah, they swept them. But Yamamoto, who they lit up twice. pitched the game of his life.
Shohei pitched and hit the game of his life.
Sometimes you run into a buzzthaw, and I think that's what happened last year. I still think. I I I I still think going into that series I thought the Brewers were going to lose to the Cubs, and I thought they would beat the Dodgers. That's really how I thought it was going to play out. I thought they would lose to the Cubs in that series.
And then when they got past the Cubs, I thought they would beat the Dodgers. I thought it would take seven games. Uh but I I I thought they would beat the Dodgers going in. Why? Because they'd had a shitload of success against him during the regular season.
Yeah, but then granted, a lot of them. They were up against pitchers that weren't even on the fucking postseason roster. Yeah, but they shelled Yamamoto. I mean, they beat the hell out of them. And I believe they beat him twice pretty handily.
They didn't face Otani, and I don't think anyone really knew for sure what you were getting from Otani because I don't believe Otani pitched. Yeah, because they had the buy.
So he really hadn't made like a full-blown start. Up to that point. Like he was doing his quote-unquote rehab starts in live games, but no one knew for sure what you were getting or how much he was going to give you. No, I think the Dodgers played the Reds. Did they yeah, I thought they had the buy.
And then did they beat the Padres? No, the Cubs beat the Padres. No, the Brewers beat the Cubs. Oh yeah. Come on.
I don't know. I didn't see the end of that game. I didn't see the end of that series. Kevin says, what did you think? Of the WWE roster cuts.
The three women they just called up were horrible.
So, WWE had a lot of cuts today, and one of them was a guy named Aleister Black. Um and I told my kid That the WWE cut some guys. And I've told my kid many times that the WWE is not like real, that it's scripted, that these are stories. He refuses to acknowledge and accept that.
So then he was like, he goes. How could Aleister Black be fired? He did nothing wrong, Daddy. And I was like, where was the support in December, son? When I got let go.
Oh, he was more he's more upset about Aleister Black. Bobby says, Are y'all really best friends? You can make a buck off of it. Yeah.
There's a long story behind that bug shot, Bobby. A long, long history back there. Yeah.
I know I don't make it sound like it's bad. No, it's funny because there are still people that think that We absolutely hate each other just based off Twitter.
Well, because I met you. doing brewers. And then you were very nice to me. And then on Twitter, you ripped on me for everything I said, did, and thought. Yeah.
Hmm. I always like when I'd be out drinking, and someone came up, like, oh, why do you hate Bart Winkler so much? And I would just come up with some random-ass story. What I would make up. and just see like what would spread as a rumor.
So who know who knows? You know I did that to my parents? We we had um We went to college, came back. There were like four of us that hung out all the time. And We made jokes of my parents that they were swingers.
And then somehow that rumor spread all over town. And like, I bet they love that. Like I think I think the school had to talk to my dad. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Did you get your ass kicked after that?
No. I got a text here that Tim Shay is on the post-game show right now with Tim Allen and Sparky. Wow, what a whore. Yeah.
Way to go. What a fucking whore. All right, well, this served as a draft show that wasn't. I think we covered it very well. I think if you whittle down like five minutes of it, there's enough draft in there.
I could present it. One thing that I do not get about the draft.
So they were talking that they changed it this year where there's only eight minutes between picks instead of 10, right?
So you get 10 minutes or eight minutes now. To make, let's face it, the easiest pick. You've done your homework on these guys, like, you know, everything there's about it. But you get like 17 seconds. To pick in all the later rounds.
The first round should be you're on the clock, you get a minute. Two minutes. The later rounds, you should have more time. Because you have to do more research. You have to dig more.
Like it just makes no sense. It seems ass backward to me. That was a big talking point today is that The draft shouldn't be eight minutes. It should be ten minutes. And Yeah.
The complaint was because the T V coverage You were still like three They're trying to cram everything in, and then Fanatics has to get their ass in there. Oh, sign this rookie card on the fucking stage. Fuck fanatics. They screwed up. I put this out on Twitter last week.
Utah Mammoth makes the NHL playoffs for the first time. Four letters in Utah. Fanatics can't even get them in the right order. What'd they go? U-A-T-H?
U-A-T-H. You off? Yeah.
Well done. I bet they won the latter. All right.
I'm on board with your sabers. They won the last night. Yeah, I'm riding the Stabers bandwagon. Those people are bat shit crazy. Like, I am all for it.
There's a video of the dude on roller blades. fighting a mannequin in the middle of the street. before a game, like. I respect it. There are some drinking and drugs going on in Buffalo, and I want a part of it.
Sunday at one is the next game. Yeah.
I'll be at Stenny's Lake Country for the Admiral's watch party because I depending on what they did tonight, I haven't seen the final score. Oh, well we should look and we can make this an Admiral's post game. Yeah.
We should have Aaron Sims on.
Okay.
Together? He's aw he's. First of all, he's an excellent broadcaster and doesn't get credit for that. Second. He's a great human being.
Like, I've been friends with him for... 20-some odd, almost 30 years. He is hilarious. He might be more random and obscure. Then you and I.
Like He's got all the bases covered. They lost. They lost. So Sunday afternoon, Stenny's Lake Country. And that's game three.
It's a three-game set. Yeah, it's a three-game set. Oh.
So hopefully they win that. Then they actually get a home game in the next round and You and I could go get. Get hockey drunk. Maybe fighting some dudes in the street downtown. I think we just do that anyway.
Yeah, pretty much. For content. For content. For content. Andrew, have a good weekend.
Gina Ekis, by the way. Is the name of the designer of the logo on your hat, the Dixie Jazz? Design. Gina Ekis.
Well, I wonder who fucking kissed it with their tire today. Looks like they need to replace the tires. Tread looks a little worn. But but because I have an L L C And I'm wearing this on the show, and I'm talking about it. I can write this off now.
You're always thinking, man. You're always thinking. That's how it works, dude. That's how that's how it fucking works. I don't know.
I probably should have formed an LLC years ago being full-time freelance, but I was just too lazy. Yeah.
Well Thank you, Wegs, and thank you all for stopping into the Winklerverse.
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