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March 23, 2026 9:40 am

The hosts discuss the current state of college basketball, particularly the decline of mid-major programs due to the National Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) policy. They also touch on the upcoming soccer season, including the New York City FC's performance and the upcoming stadium in Manhattan. Additionally, they share their personal experiences with the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and its pre-check program.

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Yeah Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome into the Winklerverse. I am Bart Winkler on Monday, March 23rd. Of 2026, and Carlos Ortiz is alongside with us. Having a grand old time on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream of which.

That's the best bracket that I'm in.

So I've got a couple of brackets. Where I did ma the main one, I took Houston. Uh my kid took Duke.

So we were sweating the first day, but then. Florida lost last night, so one of his final four teams are out, but I think a lot of people had Florida. But we're enjoying it. He's filling out the bracket. It's very cute.

But I did do one with Dan Shaney's pool. If you are one of his clients, he has a free pool where the top five, I think, people get paid out in gift cards.

So I'm very excited to maybe. Earn some gift card money that way. I'm 11th right now. Because I did an anti-Wisconsin one where I took them to lose to high point. And I took.

The big 10 teams to basically go as far as possible, with Purdue being the winner.

Well, you've got Iowa and Nebraska in the Sweet 16. You've got Michigan and Michigan State still alive.

So. Yeah, things are working out pretty well. In that pool, I'm 11th out of like 200. And that one, otherwise I'm the same. shitty bracket doer.

That I have been normally in a year. Carlos. That we saw last year. Where these top seeds reign supreme. This is the second year ever that there are no mid-majors in the Sweet 16.

The other instance of that was 2020. Five, how are you? How is your bracket? How is your weekend? How is the tournament?

How is life? How's your dog? How is your life? How is everything? Dog is good.

He's looking at me, wondering why I'm not walking him. My bracket was busted from jump. I was one of those idiots that believed in Wisconsin to go to the Sweet 16. High Point took care of that. My national champion is Duke, so I'm alive in that regard.

I did have Florida State getting knocked out. In the round of 32, I'm not Florida State. Florida, you had them getting knocked out? I did have Florida getting knocked out.

So that was actually one of the few things I did have predicted correctly. Yeah, but I've had a couple of odd teams that are, you know. I was right on. I have St. John's in Sweet 16.

That was smart. But then I had a couple of just. Huge whiffs. I had BYU going all the way to the elite eight. BYU stunk.

Like, what an absolute disaster that was. I hope AJ DeBonsa finishes like gets drafted like seventh. What a bum. But yeah, no, the brackets completely busted, but I've never been good at these bracket challenges and all that crap anyway. If you're asking me to pay for money for a bracket, I'd say absolutely not.

But free brackets, I'm in all the time because I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Other than that, everything is gravy. In a very gloomy New York day where my throat is sore, I might be sick. I did a five-mile workout on Friday, and I don't think my body has recovered since. Oh shit.

Well, Godspeed to you. Yeah, I'm dying. I had a bad cup of coffee the other day, and I've been hacking up a lung for two days. Yeah, maybe sometimes the K-cups will like forget how the machine works, and you won't actually get coffee, you'll just get like. Filth oil.

Some WD40. Oh god, it's so it's so bad, and I've been like, wow, wow. Lah for days. It sucks. One bad coffee.

Yeah, that's where I'm at. That's where I'm at. That's like all that I ever have planned in a given day right now: coffee and. You know, if it's Mondays, I know I talk to you. You know, that's why it was nice to have the tournament Thursday and Friday, which again, my kid was off from school.

And I wouldn't say that he sat there and, you know. Was intent on every single Shot, but he's been getting into some games. The Kentucky game. Oh, it was great. I like cold brew, but I want, I need no calories.

I guess I could find some cold because all the cold brews I find are like Vanilla triple latte, 360 calories. 360 grams of sugar included. Anyway, he had a good time. Kentucky had a last-minute shot, right? They won a game.

That was big. The St. John's win. That was big. And he had St.

John's, so he's. Freaking out. I've realized there's a lot of discussion right now. And there always has been, but I do feel like it's ramped up. And especially with this tournament, there seems to be a lot of discussion that things were better back then.

I talk about that all the time with the 90s. And I'm really glad that I have a kid.

so that I can enjoy this stuff through his eyes. 'Cause I I like same with wrestling. Like some of these shows are dog shit. But, you know, through his eyes, they're not. And March Madness, maybe it doesn't hit the same way it used to be.

And we can talk about the graphics or the floor court or coaches not dressing up in suits like your boy Rick Petino. And how it might have been better, but to watch it through his eyes, I'm glad I'm doing that. 'Cause otherwise I'd be even more of a curmudgeon because yeah. Either things are worse, or when you get older, you just don't enjoy them as much. I think it could be a little column A, a little column two.

Sure. But I think mainly it's the old. I think mainly. It is the old, where you just. You like, I even, there was a story today.

About how the Brewers and a lot of these teams. We don't know what TV channel they're going to be on yet. You can buy brewers.tv for 200 bucks right now. That's what they're trying to make you do, but we don't know what channel they're going to be on. Locally, a bunch of affiliates are airing the game opening day, but I don't know where I'm watching this game Friday.

And I used Kramer. Why don't you just tell me the name of the channel you want to watch? Like, why don't you just tell me that? But I'm still using references from 30 years ago. Yeah.

Like as my go-to reference.

So I think, you know, when you're young and you look at old people, you're like, why do you like still the same music? Why don't you watch any of these new shows? You just your brain I don't want to say stops developing, but it stops. It just doesn't, it peaks. You think that they.

You know, was TV better in the 70s than the 90s? Is it better in the 90s than today? I don't know, but it just seems like whenever your brain was forming Um It's memories and it's You know. The way that it's processing, I think that's what you're stuck with. Yeah, it's common for not even common, it's like that for everybody.

So I had to actually Google this term because I forgot exactly word for word what it was. But we all experience something that's called a. A I believe is a reminiscence bump, or yeah, it's a reminiscence bump.

So basically, everything that you grew up around that you that you get nostalgic for, you're automatically going to assume that that period was the golden age of whatever it is that you, you know, of TV, of radio, of sports, whatever the hell it is. Your adolescent to our early adult years are going to be the most impressionable. And like, that's what you're going to hang on to.

So, I like 90s and early 2000s hip-hop rap. I think the rap nowadays, I think, is dog shit. I think most music nowadays is dog shit. I always go back to listen to shit that when I was, you know, 16, 19, 22, like that stuff is awesome to me because that was the stuff that was the most, that was the time that was most impressionable. Same thing when it comes to TV shows.

Like, I like The Simpsons from season three to season nine. I think early, I think later Simpsons are not as good. Why? Because there's. It didn't have that much of an impression and a hold on me.

Again, I believe it was called a reminiscence bump. I will double-check that. That'll be my homework assignment. When I come back on the next stream, I'll have that outlined in a snapshot for everybody, but it's an actual. Like a realistic scientific term that we all have.

And that's why everybody thinks their time period growing up was the best time period. Boomers, Gen Xers, millennials. whatever these weird alphabet why people are nowadays. Gen Alpha? I get, is that what it is?

Gen Alpha? I have the fucking idea. I think the other thing to make. A mention of here is This has always been that way, but it seems louder now because those of us. That grew up an era before social media.

are now very active on social media. And in the past, if somebody told you things were better when they were a kid, you're like. Shut up, Uncle Dan. No, they're not. You're lame.

And that was the extent of it. But now it's like, oh, I missed Blockbuster. Yeah, me too. Yeah, me too. 5,000 retweets.

So we're in the. We're reminiscing. And then we're in the echo chamber. It's a much bigger echo chamber than it was back then. Oh, absolutely.

And there's more people to agree with you because there's more people. providing their um Their insights and inputs.

So, tournament, though, you're watching it, enjoying it. Are you? Am I? Because you're in New York. For those that don't know, I'm in Milwaukee.

Carlos is in New York. We do this show. It's the national perspective to continue the great show that we had on the Infinity Sports Network, which has now been gone for three months. Life will find a way. Yeah.

Will it? I'm telling myself it will. Robert says Toys R Us is a true loss, though. I agree. KB Toys.

Remember KB Toys? KB Toys in the Mall. Yep. Was always good. They always had the train that went all the way around.

Man, I can't tell you how many Star Wars figurines I stole from there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Statute limitations. They can't do anything.

What are they going to do? Come out of business to come and sue me? Yeah. Don't take this the wrong way. But I have been thinking of stealing more.

Why would I take it the wrong way? Just go ahead and steal. We have no money. When you don't have a liable income, you resort to finding ways to tactically acquire items you can't normally tactically acquire. Because I'm in the store, man.

You know, shit's not cheap. There's an art form to do things.

So I've evolved past stealing. You know, I'm older now. I can't get caught shoplifting in my 40s. You know, how would I look? But if I do see something that I like, and i'm like hmm they want 80 for this well there's a similar item that's $20.

I'm going to go into the fitting room, swap the tags, and get an $80 item for $20 items.

Now, some systems have become more sophisticated. But I had been swapping tags for years.

So, I'm not stealing anything. I'm just giving you my suggested retail price. You suggested a price that I can't afford. I've countered. with a price that I can afford.

And I now have said good, and you have currency.

So it is an equivalent exchange, just not the one you were looking for. You're you're haggling without Them nulling. I'm cutting out the argument. I'm cutting out the negotiations. You know, I'm haggling.

But like you see what the price is is coming to in the register you might double check it like Damn, this is really 20 bucks. What a deal. All right.

Well, $20, sir. Here's my $20. Have a great day. We smile. Receipt was passed over.

I now legally own the island. Don't they have like those ink blots that destroy, or is that another 90s thing?

Well, yeah, that's if you're ripping off, like, you know, like if you're gonna go steal a coat. And they have like those ink tags and you just rip it off and bah. You know, you're walking out the store with a big ass blue spy.

Well, you know, security or people are going to know you stole that shit. I don't think they do that anymore. I think everything's all alarmed and censored. You know, there's like soft e-tags because I used to, you know, work in a lot of apparel industries. We've heard your stories about how you stole it from them, too.

Oh, oh, man, came out like a bandit. Again, statute limitations. They can't come after. They're out of business as well. I might have actually put them out of business myself, you know, unknowingly.

I mean, just like a little thing here and there is not going to hurt anybody. Oh, no, no. I was stealing like $200, $300 a day.

So. No, there was no excuse for that. I was robbing him blind. Yeah. I actually, um, I do not believe that I've stolen anything.

Besides my audience's time for years. I don't believe I've stolen anything. It's been a while. The last thing I would have stolen was. I did put soda on the bottom of the cart and accidentally.

Not have it scanned. And I realized it when I got to my car. And so the appropriate thing to do would be to go back in and pay for it. But I did not do that. Good for you.

The real crime was uh buying Mountain Dew in the first place. Oh, dude. I got my do zero finally. Mountain Dew Zero. Ugh, gross.

Um I only have two of these. I went to the store Saturday, Sunday. My store does not sell Mountain Dew Zero. It only sells Diet Dew. And then, when there is Dew Zero, somebody raids it like a bandit.

I'm really at a war with somebody in my town. It's really you and one other person that's like pilfering diet. Yeah. Diet Zero, or the hell it's called. Yeah, and if we knew who each other were, we could just work together, but he's got no incentive or she.

Or they because They get all the, they get all the. I'm always the one looking. I'm the one that needs to bargain. Yeah, why would I take 50% or less of the do when I have 100% of the market share right now? Poor Bart.

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I'm not bringing up today. I am going to bring up these two following things because it is a big week for. Me? And a big week for you and I. One, Daredevil's back tomorrow night lest you I can't wait.

Season two of the New Daredevil show. Yeah, born again. I read a review that it starts a little slow. Nah, don't like that. Picks up by episode three.

Okay, three, not bad. It never steps on the brakes. All right, then this pleases me. I cannot believe, to speak on Marvel, that I had not watched the season one of Punisher. any earlier than I have.

I just binge watched that over the weekend and it's an incredible program.

So, I just wanted to make everybody aware of that. You probably should go watch it because Punisher will be in the new Spider-Man movie. Yeah. Well, I've seen it, it's great, but yeah.

So it's is season season one is with that other guy, right? Yeah, with Billy Russo, aka Jigsaw. And then season two is when he's Or he's full blown he's full blown jigsaw, but I haven't seen season two yet.

Okay, 'cause the guy who plays Ben Grimm. He was in season one as the uh the NSA computer analyst Micro. Oh, that's season one. Yes, that's season one, where he has the very hot wife. Um yeah, and and Punishers like Kind of dancing around it.

Yeah. Oh, she would have thrown him the box, no problem. Like from that first, as soon as she hit him with the car, she was ready to give it to him. 'Cause it's front castle. Is Mom Donnie in season one?

Yes, I think she's also in season two. Not Zorom. No, no, not the mayor of New York, the Homeland agents. She's mildly attractive. I think her character is annoying, but that's the point.

Mom Donner D! Yeah. Where are my three buses? I thought the poddles were getting fixed. Yeah, the politics bullshit, man.

Everybody hems and hauls about who you're voting for and oh, this person's gonna ruin my city, town, municipal, state, country. It's the same shit. I need everybody to realize your votes and who you vote for doesn't fucking matter. It's all the same thing. Your day-to-day operations will not change.

With the exception of a brink of global war with Iran and a little places. But other than that. M gas is five bucks. I mean, and my my price of eggs have not come down yet. But, um But your data rate operations are the same.

Stalus Tom says, what's your Culver's order? When's the last time you had that? Uh I haven't had Culver's since I was in Toma, Wisconsin. And that was four years ago. And I had the butter cheeseburger.

With baked burger. Gotta have bacon, otherwise just throw it out. Um, I keep forgetting what's the Dare Queen like version of Calder's that was that the Blizzard? What's it have? Uh, yeah, the concrete mixer, concrete mixer.

Uh, I take my concrete mixer with Oreo. And um I think it was the Tots. You have Tater Tots there. Cheese skirts. Cheese skirts?

No. I thought it was some kind of like Todd. Because it wasn't fries, but it was something good, potatoe. But that's my order. No soda.

Yeah, it wasn't the cheese curds. They're not like... I'm not a big cheese curd guy.

Well, they're not like the squeaky, greasy cheese curds. They're like. They they look they look more like tater tots. Hmm. Mine is, I've been going with the spicy chicken.

Spicy chicken sandwich, fries. Strong choice. Extra order of curds. Just to have something else to chew on. I did do something very rare.

I did something very rare yesterday. Um we had a soccer game at noon. We won. My kid scored a hat-trick. No big deal.

But then on the way back. Because it was noon and he hadn't had lunch yet. I got him McDonald's, I think, for only the second time in his life. And I did not, I was going to get the big arch, but I that's what I was just about to ask. I mean, it's a limited time only.

Otherwise, you got to go to the UK. I just got a I I ordered him a happy meal. with McNuggets, and then I got an extra cheeseburger. Just in case he wanted it, he didn't.

So that's what I ate. What was the toy in the happy meal? The toy was a toy crock. Like a crocodile, like a shoe or a crocodile. Uh toy croc shoe.

What the fuck kind of toy is that? You can put stickers on it and it doubles as a keychain. That's terrible. Yeah. Was he excited about it?

Yes, he was beyond thrilled. What? Kids beard, man. I got all these stickers to put on my shoe, Daddy. That's so weird.

I remember when you just get something like a beanie baby. Out of the happy meal, man. That was Pete McDonald's. That's when McDonald's didn't look like gray rectangles. They actually had colors, like slides, and like.

whipti dooda things on the top of their buildings and shit and it was shaped weird. Yeah, McDonald's was better in the nineties. I mean, let's just fucking say it. Yeah. And you know, because you know, you didn't have to worry about McDonald's closing and then becoming a Chipotle or a Starbucks or something because they all had the same great facade.

Okay. I did have another tournament thing to say to you, actually. Uh, mid-majors are dead. I don't know what else you wanted to say. There's, we'll never see, we'll never see a mid-major in a sweet six scene again.

Never.

Well, who was the closest? I don't know. Do you want to say maybe Gonzaga? But I don't even know if I want to consider Gonzaga mid-major anymore. They've been selling for the bottom 12 years.

Well, they're going to the Pac-12, but that doesn't count. Utah State, I guess. They didn't really have a shot. No. Yeah, a lot of them.

There were just not a lot of in this era of NIL, and which by the way, NIL guarantees absolutely nothing because this was the most expensive Kentucky team that's been fielded, and Kentucky was not great in a regular season. They're not going to win a national championship. Like, Kentucky's mid as fuck.

So NIL guarantees you nothing, but it does guarantee you. you know, schools like, you know, like Gonzaga or George Mason or You know, you're not going to be able to recruit because who the hell is going to wanna go there if I can get a bag from Alabama or Florida or something like that?

So the mid-major to me is dead. And I don't know how you're going to revive it.

Well, that's what I thought with So, I had a very incorrect thought on what NIL would do. I thought that obviously. Like think of a school like Milwaukee. All right.

Or even Green Bay. With Gottlieb. Who I don't know if you saw that report. There was a lot of interest in Gottlieb, but he's staying at Green Bay. I wonder who leaked it other than Fox Sports.

Is the interest in the room with you right now, Doug? But anyway, so I thought a lot of like smaller schools. I thought what would happen is the bigger schools, like a Duke and Kentucky and stuff. They would basically pay or buy or Give NIL deals to the top freshmen and like sophomores. And that those programs.

Would have all the best younger kids, but then. The other programs would be Juniors and seniors. That some of these kids at these mid-majors. They wouldn't think. To go pro because maybe they couldn't, and there was still money for them to be had.

Like, yeah, I could go play overseas in Greece for $80,000. But we've got donors that want to see this work out. I'm going to get $400,000 play my senior year. Even something like that, I thought. What happened?

But you still see a lot of those guys as soon as you have like a 20-point game. in a mid-major. You're gone. They're going to be someone. You're hitting the border with, like, yeah, if you're a junior at FIU, you're going to be at Florida State like the week after.

Like, you know, the big programs are poaching kids from mid-majors, which is why mid-majors are dying because. Like it's literally just a minor league. You're literally just there auditioning for a big program to come and pay you.

So I talked to the Milwaukee coach Bart Lundy about that, and I said, How do you? Like If you coach a kid too hard, They're going to leave. Or if you don't coach a kid hard enough, you basically. have to recruit With every single coaching exercise you do. And he said, look.

I just gotta coach the kids that are here. If they're here, I'll coach them the way I need to coach them. And if they need to leave me after that. That's their choice. I can't do anything but coach the kids that are here.

I can't worry about. Am I coaching you in a way that you're going to want to leave? I gotta coach you the way I know how, the way I've been hired to do. And that I've never like Thought the role of a college coach was something that I think would be fun. I think.

The recruiting is just too hard. It seems like a miserable job. It always has. The whole offseason, you got to, you know. Go sleep in these recruits Spare bedrooms or whatever.

Which that seems to have faded away because, you know.

Now it's just who's going to provide the most money, but now. Once you recruit a kid, it was like, okay, that's done. He's here. Transferring was rare. And you'd have to sit out for a year if you wanted to do it.

Now you look at a kid the wrong way. You try to teach him a lesson. And that's why that That women's game went so viral, where she's like, I know you, I believe in you. Yep. I believe in you.

That should be the way you coach. You shouldn't have to do that and worry that that person's going to leave someday. Yeah, I mean, you shouldn't have the player post-game saying, no, I actually want to be coached like that. Like, I appreciate it. Like, it didn't need an explanation.

That was good, old-fashioned, hard coaching. Alex says power conference teams pay a hundred times more than mid-majors. And they have spotlight that the mid-majors don't. Yeah, if you're top banana at a mid-major team. I mean, is it more beneficial to be Tenth guy out, you know.

In the rotation on a Power four team? Probably. Right. Big fish, small pond argument, you know? Yeah.

But then we were watching that St. John's game. And I think I had Kansas, but I saw the starting lineups. And St. John's was like senior, senior, junior, senior graduate.

I thought, oh, okay, well, Patino's, that's going to work. I still feel like the teams that are gonna win March Madness. Are going to be the bigger schools. And so we're not calling big geese is not a mid-major. No, I guess not.

No It should be, but it's not.

So we're we're You're going to have the more name brand schools, but I still think they're going to need. Juniors and seniors, and groups of kids that have played together for a while. Because, yeah, while the first two rounds are Are gonna be Devoid of upsets, and there was madness. You know, there were last-second shots, and crazy comebacks, and blown leads. There was that, but there wasn't.

the mid-majors and I think What I've talked about in the past is, we think we like upsets. We think we like upsets. We like the moment that a 12 beats a five and a 13 beats a four. But we don't like when a 13 has to play a 12. We don't even like when a 12 has to play a four.

We're like, oh, no, you know, they got a free pass here, they're not going to do it. A second time.

So the back half of the tournament. Is actually, I think, going to get better. Because it's going to be teams that This is going to be teams that are grinding it out that are essentially even. And it's gonna go down to... You know, did the Finger go off the guy's hand.

Oh no, we don't know. It's like it's gonna be a lot of really Consequential tiny moments in a game that are going to decide the champions. Good. You like that thought? I got nothing for you.

Trying to read these chats, and I realized that my screen is so small. Oh, wow, I could actually. I can go close. I can zoom in on the chat.

So now I can see Stylus Tom and Baikowskialx. I think his name is Alex. All right.

Yeah. Thanks for coming. The other thing I'm looking forward to this week. Oh, I still have one more St. John thing to say.

God, I keep forgetting. I feel like. When Northwestern gets good. At something as rare as it is. Yeah, about to say.

Then all of a sudden, the city of Chicago pretends like Northwestern's a Chicago school. Northwestern is not a Chicago school. As someone from Chicago, Northwestern is not a Chicago school. I feel like the same thing happens with St. John's and New York City.

Oh, 1000%.

So St. John's does obviously have a following in Queens because that's where St. John's is. But I love listening to WFAN and hearing all the guys that I used to work with all of a sudden give a fuck about St. John's.

Because of the run that St. John's is on. And you'll hear it on the morning show, midday. I'm like, and you guys, none of you guys have watched college basketball a lick this season, but because that's the only school. Of relevancy in college basketball within the five boroughs.

They're going to make Satan John's like the de facto school team.

Meanwhile, you know, Rutgers basketball is on WFA and Airways. Nobody ever gives one shit about Rutgers. But yeah, if any other school in the five boroughs would be good, they would latch onto that school. But since they're not, and you know, the only thing, the only game in town right now is March Madness. You gotta.

You got to be on the airwaves. You got to create content. You got to, we'll just talk about St. John's and act like we've been, you know, pumping up the St. John's bandwagon all year, but.

Uh yeah, it's an absolute joke. Yeah. Living in New York, I very rarely run into a guy wearing a St. John's jacket. Or someone that's an outright St.

John's fan, I may know. Three people who actively root on St. John's, and they all went to St. John's. Everyone else does not give a shit.

So Like I just looked up what are the D1 basketball schools in the New York area. Yeah, LIU Brooklyn got smoked. I mean, they made the tournament, which was fantastic, but they got absolutely throttled. And it's weird because it's Long Island University of Brooklyn, which I never understood that shit. But yeah, they got in.

It's a satellite school. Yeah, yeah. Again, 'cause I know the University of Pennsylvania has like a satellite school not that far from here. It's like nothing to do with Pennsylvania, but it's they're associated with UPenn. Uh, but yeah, LIU Brooklyn uh is here.

Um. I I I'm actually legitimately I'm trying to rack my brain. Other than like St. John's, Rutgers is in Jersey. I almost don't, I don't even count them.

That's not a New York school. That's two hours away. I cannot think of schools within the five boroughs that are like D1 colleges or even D2. Fordham is in the Bronx. That's news to me.

Fordham is in the Bronx, and it's legitly in the Bronx too. Um what about Columbia? I think that's Upper Manhattan, like Upper West Side. Iona?

Well, I went to Iona. That's my alma mater. They're in the Mac conference. Um that is not a New York City school. That is in Rochester.

I'm sorry, Rochester. That is a new Rochelle. And that's like. Oh, good. 30, 45 minutes away from the city.

Where's Riverdale? Riverdale I think it's like north of the Bronx, or is a neighborhood within the Bronx, but it's up there because it starts to get murky once you go past the Bronx a little bit. Then you're like Westchester County, White Plains, and they all kind of blend with each other a little bit. I think I don't know if Riverdale's in the Bronx or it's next to it. Because there's a school, Manhattan University, in Riverdale.

Yeah, that's not in Manhattan. Yeah, it's very weird.

Well, that's annoying. Yes. I guess where would they put a campus in Manhattan? They got campuses in Manhattan, but it's not like the campus that you think of. You're not going to see trees and shit.

Like I went to. I went to City University and grass. Yeah, like, no, you're not going to see that. You're going to see buildings. Like, I went to Baruch College, which was on 23rd and Lexington.

and there was a campus, but the campus was literally like The main building. Crosswalk another main building, and then a couple blocks away, you had some dorms and shit. It was very weird. It was not like a traditional, like, oh, yeah, let's all go to the quad and you know, eat art, y'all. our our our fucking geezables like it wasn't working like that Oh, look, you got an update from Shep.

He says Riverdale is North Bronx and borders on Yonkers. Shep's alive? Oh, yeah, he's commenting right there. Oh, hello, Shepard. He's on the radio a lot more than we are.

Fucking right, interviewing people that I don't know their numbers. Yeah, what the fuck. Shep, good to see you. Hope you're doing good. Um, what about when people were like St.

Peter's? Remember that little run? Also a school in the Mac T uh conference that is not a New York City school. Yeah, but then they like those schools get in every so often because you're Quinnipac University, Sienna. Iona, when Petino was there.

I think Tobin Anderson took him to the tournament once and then got smoked. Like every so often, a MAC school will get in and they're all kind of. In this area. But none of them are in there five barrels. Yeah.

Well I'm glad that It's so captivating over there in New York City. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The the the the the the hub of college sports runs through New York. Everyone knows that. That's what they've always said.

It's the college sports capital of the world, New York City. Oh, yeah. Syracuse, by the way, you know, four or five hours away, but you'll find more oranges here than you will up there.

Well, that's because a lot of people that go into broadcasting go to Syracuse. They go to Syracuse. Yeah. Which I think if I had to do my life over, I would make sure I have a piece of paper from Syracuse so that I would be. I 1000% would have at least gotten a certificate from Syracuse because I would have got I would be working right now.

Yeah, just to be in the club. I mean, you got to, the first thing is: do you have talent? And then they're like, did you go to Syracuse? And then you're in. Yes.

Yeah. Okay, you're hired. Yeah, all right.

Well, well, thank you. I went to Iona, so. Hence why I'm unemployed. I went to the University of Wisconsin La Crosse. Yeah.

Which there are some other broadcast professionals. in the state doing good work. That went to what we call the Syracuse of the Mississippi River. is what University of La Crosse Yeah. I did not get uh I did not I did not get um I did not go to Northwestern.

The other thing that I'm excited for this week, people forget. I'm wearing the shirt of the DC Defenders. I thought that that was the Bengals logo. The UFL starts this week. Spring football is back.

Another nothing from you? Not a. I I didn't know that was still a thing. Is the rock still involved in that somehow? Um, I guess.

But his team moved. There was a team named after his logo. Yeah, wasn't it? The Brahmas? Sam they moved.

So there's four teams that I think moved. or rebranded. But there's a game Friday night on Fox. The Birmingham Stallions against the Kings? Michigan Panthers?

No. I think they're out. The Louisville Kings. That's a new team. The D.C.

Defenders have the Battlehawks. The Houston Gamblers have the. Dallas Renegades. Renegades, I remembered. Battle Hawks are St.

Louis, I think. Yeah, and then now we have the Columbus boats. We have now they're gone. Damn. Columbus Aviators versus Orlando Storm.

That's new. If you turn on Sunday Night Baseball on ESPN. And you're like. Where is Sunday Night Baseball on ESPN? You'll instead be watching Aviators vs.

Storm. Yeah, because Sunday Night Baseball, for all you people who don't know, is actually now Mike Tarico gets to borrow another sport over at NBC. Yes, and make sure to watch it because I should be in the I should be in the intro.

Okay. It's the only reason I watch. You think I got a rooting interest in Yankees versus Giants? Did I even tell you much about that? Yeah, I did last week, didn't I?

Yeah, you tell me about about your uh story of being an extra. Yeah. And so that I think, I mean, they have a double header on Thursday. But in the song they go Sunday night.

So I don't know if they'll air it. I've been waiting all day for some Sunday baseball. If I'm visible. In the opening credit. That is now your resume.

You send that demo reel to everyone. Yeah, that's gonna be all I fucking talk about. That's gonna be all I ever fucking discuss and talk about. Your your uh Twitter bio will be the guy featured on Sunday Night Baseball. Oh, yeah.

And then I'm going to do like a three-hour three-part series of behind the scenes. And I'm going to do all that kind of stuff. I can't wait for the MTV Cribs v uh episode of your house. Oh, yeah, it's going to be awesome. Support for this podcast comes from Progressive, America's number one motorcycle insurer.

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Because he was talking about how he wanted to be the highest paid wide receiver in the league. Four years, $168.6 million contract extension makes him the highest paid wide receiver in NFL history. Yeah. The deal averages $42 million per year with over $120 million guaranteed. Yeah.

Dan Seattle had to do it coming off of the Offensive Player of the Year award. I hope he is able to replicate that situation, that success next season because he is one of my keepers. I will be burning a third round pick on him, but well deserved. Congratulations to JSN. I still think Justin Jefferson is a better receiver.

Jamar Chase is a better receiver. But with Jamar Chase's case, Joe Burrow is never fucking healthy. And in Justin Jefferson's case, he has no quarterback.

So there's that.

Okay. Oh, Ben thought we were going to bring up the other big story in the NFL: Joshua Dobbs has been cut from New England. Uh the fact that Josh Dobbs is still in the league. Is impressive. I will say this: the Josh Dobbs, if you anybody who gave a fuck about Josh Dobbs watching this stream right now, the second that New England re-signed Tommy DeVito, you knew Josh Dobbs was going to get well, that's what that means.

That means Tommy DeVito. is one play away. From being the starting quarterback of the New England Patriots. Yeah, good for DeVito. I couldn't have his badge usually around the Giants anymore.

Did you watch any of that flag football game that was supposed to be in Saudi Arabia that they moved to LA? Yeah, I saw a little bit of it. I saw some highlights and whatnot. I mean, the fact that Odell Beckham Jr. still does, it still has not gotten a job is somewhat criminal because you got receivers that have no business being in the league.

Odell's got a little something left. Come, just come home to the Giants. You're better than Darius Slayton. The only thing that I would say. Because it was a big nothing burger to flag football.

If you are a Commanders or a Bengals fan, you got to be like, what the fuck? Because Jaden Daniels. Who's coming off of it? Up and down year where he was hurt, a lot of it, and Joe Burrow, who was always hurt. Both of those guys are slinging the rock for flag football.

But not only that, because they're just playing quarterback. All right, no big deal. They they lined up at receiver. A couple of times, both Jaden Daniels and Joe Burrow. If you're a Bengals and Commanders fan, you're like, what in the actual fuck are you guys doing?

Now, granted, they're grown men, they can do whatever they want. It's not like your ownership can like forbid you. uh to do that kind of stuff unless it's in the contract. But like I don't know. I think the optics of that, of both Jaden Daniels and Joe Burrow, participating in this, is so bad.

So you watched a good chunk of it. Yeah, I peruse. I'm out there. I still work in sports for now. That might change in a matter of two days, but I'm still in the know.

I gotta be locked in. My big issue. With Everything flag football. is they're in the Olympics. And everyone in the NFL is like, I want to be on that team.

But all the while, there's been guys that are on the team. There is a national USA flag football team. And I saw the one first down where the guy was like, and he couldn't, no one could grab his flag, and then you have like. I show speed. Who's Staying with Devontae Smith on a route.

Now, Smith caught it, but Speed was right behind him. Speed is bad. He's a very athletic cat for a streamer. I will give him credit. He's very athletic.

I can't stand him. bought athletic as fuck. Did anything get paid off with the Logan Paul Tom Brady back and forth? Uh Brader Grunkowski.

Well, I know Brady was talking shit. Gronk probably got involved. Yeah, so there was a video, bro. For as long as we've been watching wrestling, that's a work if I've ever seen it. But like Rob Gronkowski and Logan Paul had to be separated by Kevin Hart, of all people.

So apparently they were talking shit going at it. But I was just like, this is such a promo. Yeah, I don't think. Did GT versus Geo a work? No, that's legit.

That's a legit man. I don't. Do you want to get into that? Because. 'Cause I I I'm interested only because I used to work there.

But I will say both things can be true when it comes to GL versus BT. There's a radio drama today at the WFAN in New York. Between the morning host and a former host. who was axed along with the rest of us. Uh really in the same fell swoop.

And Some of the stuff that's being said on the radio, like, I feel like. I always say I feel like my. Punishments Have always well exceeded my crimes. And That would be exhibit A, the kind of stuff that they're saying on the radio. Yeah, about their boss.

Yeah. This is insane. Yeah. That just tells that just tells me and you uh we're not geo. We're we're not uh New York morning show.

Because we would still be on the air. At one point a guy called his boss. Current boss. A marshmallow speed bump today. Yeah.

But you can't get away with criticizing how this layoff was handled. Yeah, I'm like, I didn't like a meeting we had two months ago. He'll never work again. He'll never fucking work in this business again if I have anything to say about it. Yep, and if and if and if WF Van fired Geo tomorrow.

He would be on. Fucking the next prominent station tomorrow, the next day. Yeah, I thought about that about me once. Didn't work. All right.

Yeah, that's good. I got spring break next week. I'll be in San Diego, so no show. Fish tacos.

Well, I hope I get there, obviously. I made with the whole TSA thing, that could be a bit of a bummer. I don't think Milwaukee to San Diego is going to be the worst thing in the world. But we'll see how it plays out. I am, you know, I.

We're doing a just it's we're not going for like a week, we're going for a handful of days, yeah. But we have a flight in the morning and then a Padres game at night.

So I just I don't want to You missed the game. Yeah, I don't want to miss out on the game. Yeah, I'm going through a similar situation where I am flying out to Chicago for Jackie Robinson Day: Cubs versus Mets. I fly out that morning. And it is an afternoon game.

If that TSA stuff is not resolved, I am not making that game.

Okay. I mean, I'll have a nice report for you next Monday, I guess. Please. Uh let's uh let's end the shutdown. End it soon.

I got to get through. I don't have much else going on this week. I could. I could just go down to the airport and like do live shots for myself. Yeah, you could canvas it.

Yeah, I could turn this stream into a TSA watch Milwaukee live stream. You could do some recon, although the airport might think you're a terrorist or some shit, you know, looking to like rob it or something.

So, you gotta, you know, there's a fine line, you gotta be careful. Yeah. But like, there's a guy in a UFL shirt.

Something's not right here. What the fuck is he doing wearing that t-shirt? He's like, DC Defender.

Well, that's definitely code for some type of insurrection. We all could have lost a little bit of each defenders that day. Yeah. All right.

This is the national perspective. That's Carlos Ortiz. Again, next week I'll be gone, but we'll have mm mm-mm tomorrow. Most likely opening day thing post the game. I'm going to the stadium tomorrow to watch a practice game.

That's exciting, right? That is exciting. Yeah, they play the Reds. Tickets were like 20 bucks to sit 10 rows up. Yeah, why not?

Go for two hours, come home. I don't know. You know, there's not much to do here in Milwaukee. You got to go. Yeah, it's not like New York where you can go see one of the greatest soccer players of all time for no reason.

We didn't even bring that up. Sure, didn't. That's why I looked at the clock and I'm like, I could do another five minutes. You went to see Messi. Yes, for the second time.

What? Yeah, I saw him last year. And last year, he beat Inner Miami, beat the shit out of NYC FC. If you're not into Major League Soccer, go ahead and dip out now, guys. This is what we're going to talk about in the next two minutes.

Leo Messi did not look like the same player as last year. He got a goal, but it was such a weak, slow-motion-ass goal. Like, I don't even know how I'm actually mad at David Freeze, who's the keeper for NYCFC, for letting it through. I don't think he contributed that much, but Jesus Christ, the amount of messy fanboys that are out in full force sucking this guy off for just breathing is incredible and tells you the reach that soccer has outside of the U.S.

Well, yeah, I think it's uh I don't think it's David Freeze. The goalie for NYCFC? Is it Matt Freeze? I thought it was David Freeze. I thought it was David Freeze.

Oh, no, wait. I have, no, I'm happy. It is Matt Freeze. David Freeze, did he play for the Cardinals? Did I just have a brain fart?

I mean, he could have played soccer after Tony Miola tried to. Or, no, not Tony Miola. He tried to play football. But you know who did play MLS in the first season was Andrew Shu, who was on Beverly Hills, I think. And then he played for the LA Galaxy.

Yeah, the shoe was on the other foot. Is Bart a TSA pre-check or clear guy? I don't know what TSA clear is.

Well, clear is not TSA. Clear is its own thing. I had some, my wife has it. That's actually how we were able to skip the lines yesterday because otherwise we would have missed like. The first 10 minutes of the game.

But clear is like this passport kind of registration shit where it's just like, hey, you're not a terrorist, apply for this. And like, you know, you could, you could skip the lines to like the airports similar to pre-check, but it's not TSA pre-check, it's its own thing. Can I get that by next week? Uh it's very possible you might. But um I don't know how that works.

I'll have to ask my wife. She knows about that. I have TSA pre-check, I don't have anything else.

So, yeah, Messi's goal was shit, but he said, Oh, it was a dog shit goal. And NYCFC, again, I know nobody gives a fuck, but I kind of care. It was the first game that I actually left like I was mad, they got hosed. The keeper for Inner Miami. Grabs the ball.

He's clearly outside the box. First of all, the fucking refs don't even review it. It's supposed to be a red card. It's supposed to be a free kick. Absolutely get nothing.

And then Miami goes ahead and marches right down. And they uh almost put it up uh four to two. They wound up winning three to two. Uh, that it turns out that last goal, the guy was off sides. But what dog shit?

They, you know, someone from MLS office made a call, they wanted Messi to go to leave New York or to win, and that's what happened.

So And why CFC should still be undefeated.

Well at least he showed up there was a game where was the game last week he wasn't there He went to the one in Baltimore because I keep moving these games to these bigger stadiums, but they play. What was the seating capacity there? Uh I don't I I don't know off the ten how much the Yankee Stadium could uh see capacity-wise, but there was 45,000 people there. It's the second uh largest crowd for an MLS game, uh, pretty much ever. The first time I message him was 80,000 people.

So the New York, New Jersey Metro stars. Used to play at The big stadium. MetLife or whatever. They turn into the Red Bulls. Yes.

And they play at Sports Illustrated Stadium, which is a smaller venue also in Jersey. Yeah, that's in Jersey. NYCFC. They were founded in 2013, what was their first year in the league? 2014, 2015, I think, because they wound up winning a championship.

Pretty early on, actually. Uh, but they had the one ring, which the Red Bulls don't have, which is phenomenal. Games were broadcast by WFAN the first season. Did you know that? I did not know that.

Um, or uh, yeah, and uh, NYCFC still technically doesn't really have a home. They split their games between Yankee and City Field. They will actually have New York's first soccer-dedicated stadium next year. It's going to be a block away from City Field where the Mets play. I can't wait because I'm actually moving apartments.

And my new apartment is going to be three blocks, or rather, three stations away. From City Field.

So my wife can go see the Mets. We can go see our soccer team. Everything's really convenient. I don't have to worry about parking, and I can get drunk an awful lot. I didn't realize you were moving, buddy.

Yeah, I made we made the decision.

Well, she made it honestly a week ago. I came to terms with it yesterday. My landlord presented this opportunity. He's like, hey, I got a place that you might really like. And I'm only letting you know because you guys are actually pretty good.

Everybody else in my building is a piece of shit. We saw the place. I'll send you pictures of it. But I'm like, oh, wow, this actually looks really nice.

So, we're going to go ahead and do it. We won't be moving for a couple of weeks, but yeah, we'll be getting out of here. Need to help moving? I'm not doing much. I actually would love to help because it's just me.

Wouldn't that be sick if I came over there? We don't have to move anything crazy. I just need help moving the TV. We're leaving the couches. We're gonna buy all new shit.

'Cause my wife still has a job. I don't. But um We're doing a lot of spring cleaning.

So you won't actually be moving stuff per se. You'll just help me get the TV from one place to another. And um We will have a lot of alcohol.

So I'm going to sit in line for six hours. At the airport, to come help you move one TV if you're lucky.

Okay, I could think about it. Yeah, not like we're doing anything. No, I mean I won't. Fuck. Fuck.

How many MLS games have you been to? This season alone, I've gone to every single home game that they've had.

So I saw them beat the shit out of Colorado last week. I saw them win against, I'm having a brain fart. Uh, they beat somebody two weeks ago, but I've gone to three so far. This year in your life. No, this year I've gone to three.

I've only gone to two. I went to one the first season in 1996 in Tampa Bay. And I went to a game in Chicago a few years ago. that was a zero zero draw against uh the revolution. Uh, and the other team that I could not remember who was, it was Orlando, and they smoked them 5-0.

Ah, yes, the Lions. Orlando City. Great. All right.

Thank you, Carlos. Again, we'll be back in a couple of weeks. You enjoy my spring break. Enjoy your spring break. I'm on a permanent spring break until I find work.

So I'll let everybody know how I'm still on winter break, actually. We're still on winter break. We're still on Christmas vacation, dude. I can't wait for Memorial Day weekend, man, because this work is just absolutely crazy. Oh, God, I know.

It's a grind to get there. Great to be with all of you. Thank you to Carlos. Thank you to all of you for stopping into the Winklerverse. Do you ever find yourself playing the budgeting game?

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