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Badgers draw dreaded #5 seed in NCAA Tournament

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Badgers draw dreaded #5 seed in NCAA Tournament

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March 15, 2026 3:44 pm

The hosts discuss their NCAA tournament brackets, sharing their picks and predictions for the Wisconsin Badgers and other teams. They also touch on the potential impact of the NFL's new economics on the Packers and the possibility of naming rights on Lambeau Field.

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I'm Bar Winkler. Welcome into the Winkler Verse. The bracket is set. Let's take a look at it. The top story for us.

Wisconsin is a five seed, historically not good. They've got high point. on Thursday. as of this recording time. TBD.

Again, I'm Bart Winkler. Thanks for coming into our playground. Please like and subscribe. I have not. Said that enough?

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I'm upstairs. If you're on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream, Dan Shaney is sitting by the phone right now waiting for your call, danshaney.com. Um, the basement, the sump pump I sit next to, and I think I can hear the water churning. And I think that does come through. I'm in upstairs.

I'm in my upstairs, but the roof. You can hear the raindrops. I don't think you can hear that coming through this great sound system. That I have. It's been a sloppy day for me.

And those of you in Southeast Wisconsin, it's been a very snowy day. For you in the rest of the state, some two feet in places of snow. I think I'm supposed to get maybe five to eight. Yeah, I was thinking two to five and then they're like, oops. We're actually wrong.

You're getting two feet of snow across Wisconsin. Just like the Apple Weather app said. Earlier in the week.

Now I'm in Milwaukee. I'm not going to get two feet of snow. But I could have. If it was lower. Like The Apple Weather app has not failed me.

Yet. I don't I don't understand the crusade against it. Then one guy's like, oh, you mean the forecast the weather channel gives them?

Well, then why is everybody bitching about it? I thought the United Front was, you guys all hate the app. No. I use it. And it's, I mean.

I would stop using it if it didn't work. It's worked for me.

So, thank you again, Apple Weather App, and hope that everybody can deal with this weather. To the best of their abilities. All right, so let's take a look at some of the brackets. I will start with the Wisconsin region. Uh as that makes the most sense for the show that we are Putting on.

Should be able to talk to Carlos about this tomorrow for more of a hashtag national perspective. Little worried the kid's gonna be called back from school. Um We'll see how that goes. At the time.

So here is the West region that Wisconsin is in. Again, graphic on the screen if you're on the Dan Shaney YouTube. If not. I can just give you some prevailing thoughts in this region. The number one seed.

is Arizona. And you're looking at a number two seed of Purdue. Purdue plays Queens. Which is where Bart Lundy used to coach. And I believe Queens is merging with Elon.

Is that right?

So, this is like the last year of their existence. I think that's right. I didn't do a lot of research for this show. Um and I I don't think you expected me to. But I do think that that's a nugget.

And what it's not even about like. Nuggets. Maybe that's true. You go look it up.

So I like to, you know, just get the brain. Looking around a little bit. Actually, I do want to. See if that is true or not. Queens and Elon is merging.

Yeah. Yeah. But the teams might be different. Like they still might have different teams. It's kinda like West Bend.

Is anybody here from West Bend? West Bend East and West Bend West, they play in the same school and they go to the same classes. But then they go through, or they used to. I don't know if it's changed. I'm only telling you what I knew from 23 years ago.

God damn. But they would like alternate A and then AA, and then these.

So you're east, you're west, you're east, you're west. Siblings might have got split up unless there was some protection of that, but that was for sports. You could be in a class with, you know, half the Classes from West have from East. Let me know if that's still real. Slim Lewis guitar with a $5 dony.

And I appreciate that. You know, I do. When has Gard ever coached well in the NCAA tournament?

Well, we'll get to that in just a minute because the five seed scares me more than the guard factor. And Guard's got his team playing well. Guard's been the coach for a decade. I don't think anybody thought that that was going to happen. Bo Bo Ryan, wow.

I mean, he was the last coach prior to Guard. Remember, he promoted Guard. Everyone's like, who the hell's this? And then. Um there he was.

So I Have the West bracket here for you. And Gonzaga is the three. Arkansas is the four and Wisconsin is The five seed.

So, one of the issues with the uh Five seed. Is the Badgers Do not play well. With that five seed. Historically, I'll tell you all the times they've ever had the five seed. In 1999, they were the five-seed.

Oh, I remember this game. They lost to the 12, of course.

Southwest Missouri State by a score of 43 to 232. 43 to Thir thirty-two. The Badgers lost as the five seed. in 1999. We then get the five-seat again in 2003.

They beat Weber State. Beat Tulsa, who was the 13, lost to Kentucky. as the number one seed. that year And then, of course, they'd meet Kentucky later on, a decade later. with the famous couple of years there, but They did they did get Further, they got to the sweet 16 that year.

Their other runs of a five-seed. Old Miss beat him. In 2013, 5746. They were a five seed in 2019. Oregon smashed them.

72 to 54. They were a five seed against James Madison. 72 to 61 was the loss there. Uh as for guard Guards had some runs here, never been past the sweet 16. And they have not been to the Sweet 16th.

2017 would have been the time. That was the time. That was the only time. They lost to Florida in overtime. Otherwise, it was 19 first round out.

21.

Well, 20, they won the national championship in 2020 with the ESPN simulation. We do take credit for that. But then they lost to Baylor in the second round. They lost to Iowa State in the second round. They lost to BYU last year.

In that high-scoring game.

So I think there should be some trepidation about the Badgers. As a As a five-seed, and they play a high-point team that scores a lot. And then they would have to play Arkansas if they win. with John Calapari, who's got that team playing very well. But it's The Badgers, I think there's a lot of people that'll say this about the Badgers, and they had a nice run in that Big Ten tournament.

You know, took Michigan deep, beat Illinois, took Michigan deep, and then you still get the rest day.

So it's kind of like a best case scenario. Even if they got to the Big Ten championship game, we see a lot of years where that doesn't really move the meter. Um and especially not for the Badgers.

So we'll find out, but it's a Thursday game. I don't feel great about it. I will take the Badgers. But this is like the least This is the least good spot that you could have wanted. They could either make a final four-run or get bounced in the first round.

That's going to be the consensus. Yeah, it's going to be hard. If they get to the Sweet 16 this year, they will have absolutely. deserved it. For sure.

BYU is the six in this region. Miami of Florida is the seven. And then uh Villanova is the eight. And I won't go through every matchup and tell you all the teams, but That is Wisconsin. This is supposed to be a year, from what I do know, that's going to be very chalky.

My initial thought here is I probably like I'd probably like Arizona to come out of it. Maybe Gonzaga, you know, finally as a three. They could go on a little bit of run. You got a three versus Purdue. If they get that far as a two, I might flirt with Gonzaga here.

Otherwise, Arizona's a very good pick. out of that region.

So that is the West region. With the Wisconsin Badgers. I will now Go to the next region here, Tim. If you could pull that up. Let's take a look at the east region.

We'll take a look at the east region. This is the one that they showed you first. And credit to CBS, they showed it to you right away. The East Region has Duke as the number one. The number two seed in that region is Yukon.

God, I just hate Dan Hurley so much. I legitimately despise him. I just can't get, I just, I do not like him. But they'll probably have a nice decent run. Michigan State is the three.

Kansas is the three. Is the four could be an interesting matchup with St. John? Should they win? I think Duke.

If they don't get out of this bracket. Big time shock.

So Duke. Should be the pick. I always do do a bracket. I do three brackets every year. One, I take Wisconsin.

When I take Kansas. Just because it paid off for me like the last time they won. But that's going to be a donation, I think, this year. Duke is probably the team that I would like. to come out of This Bracket.

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The South region. Florida. The number one seed in this region. Um They're expected to make a run. Clemson, Iowa, there is the 8-9.

Nebraska's never won an NCAA tournament game. They're a four against 13 Troy. I will take them to win that game. Yeah, I think Nebraska, though, I don't care what seed they are. And they're going to be nervous.

Illinois to get a three against a penny. Who very crazy finished there, and then Houston's the number two in this bracket. I like Houston.

Now, again, I have not, I fill out a bracket the same way most of you do. I've got A base of knowledge. That is probably lower this year than previous years. Not having to kind of fake it on the national show. And then when I was doing shows in Milwaukee.

I always had either Wicket, Chuck, or Horvot. to cover for me. I don't watch a lot of college hoops. But I think a lot of us fall in that same.

sort of uh stratosphere there. And we're just kind of winging it on the fly. picking storylines. Picking logos, picking who we like, trying to be contrarian. The final four is in Houston, I believe.

Jim Nance. This is a gymnast. The gymnast can be all over that TV screen. I'm taking Houston to get out of this bracket. I'll probably take Houston.

to win.

So I'll probably go. Wisconsin in one. And when I say in one, I fill out the same bracket. For uh I don't I don't you know But I do do three.

So that I You know, you gotta diversify a little bit, but for the most part. I do have the same. bracket just because I know uh the purist out there May get mad about that. Um from time to time. And then the other region that we will look at.

The final region will be the Midwest region. Michigan is the number one seed in this region. You have Iowa State as the number two, Virginia as the three. and Alabama as the four.

So two things to note out of this region. The 16 matchup. To take on Michigan as UMBC against Howard. UMBC Is the team that knocked off Virginia? Two number one seeds have gone down.

Fairley Dickinson beat Purdue. which will haunt them forever. Virginia then made up for it the next year, won the title. I am not. Rooting.

For Michigan to go down as a number one. I can't stand you, NBC. I think their Twitter account, it's always about Twitter, their Twitter account. Was smelling their own. They got hot.

They were having fun. It was clever. And now they're trying to run back the same shtick in 2026. Which, you know. Maybe maybe I'm not.

Maybe I'm not the right one to But either way, I'm not rooting for them. The other one in that bracket that is interesting is Miami of Ohio did get in.

So Miami of Ohio does get in. But They're going to be in the first four, Miami of Ohio against SMU. I think this is the right move. I think they absolutely should get him. They absolutely should get in.

They were 31 and 1. was their record but then they lost in the quarterfinals of the mac tournament So their perfect regular season. Which is Probably something you should value who's getting in this tournament on. And conferences could, but they all chase the dollar. And they all want to go.

With the conference tournament to make that interesting. to get people to the neutral sites. to have some sort of attention on a week like this. I get it. I I think I I we almost probably have enough where These mid-majors could Give the regular season a qualifier.

And then also. The tournament winner. But then you might have teams rest and then mid-majors are getting two in and then I just, we don't, this doesn't need to be a tournament. that acquiesces the teams in the middle of the pack of conferences. And I know like the Big Ten is inherently better than the A 10.

But if you're ninth in the Big Ten, like throughout the year, you could have done a better job. You know, you had the chances to do better. In the season, to put yourself in a good position to be in the tournament.

So I would like to see that. I also think If you are an automatic qualifier, if you win your conference tournament, you should. Be Granted A pass. To not have to play in Dayton, to not have to play in the first four. Why is it always in Dayton?

They never you don't think that that would be bid on? by people.

So that's what we're looking at here. That's the tournament. I'll probably take Houston to win one. I think the Badgers' chances, just seeing that five in front of them. Uh not great.

I don't like it. But Um It is going to be something that they're going to have to. Have to deal with. Got a big Ron saying, let's fucking go. Do love to hear.

From big Ron. He also says, I think NIL and Transfer Portal has ruined all the mid-majors. I'm doing two separate parlays. First, I'm going to parlay all 12 1, 2, 3 seeds. Then I will parley all one through eight seeds.

Just in case a three somehow gets taken out. A lot of ways to play this, a lot of ways to try to make money, a lot of ways to try to gamble. on this Um and godspeed and best of luck. to all of you. I am excited for this year's tournament.

because I am going to get my kid involved in this. And if you think, hey, this is a gateway for. my child to start gambling. Lest you not be concerned, this kid has played the slots. We are a big lottery ticket family post-unemployment.

And And He recently Did a pull tab. and hit the $99 one. which I've never hit. But He bought him with his money. And he won 99.

Bucks.

So I'm looking forward to going through the bracket with my boy. My own dad. Greg. Is here. In his bucket hat.

Hey, I had to wear it. Oh, I'm trying to get the best lighting here. Oh, you look good. Is this your is this your first time wearing the hat? We gave you for.

Christmas. Yeah, 'cause I haven't had an opportunity to wear it. I've been Wearing bike helmets down here, not hats. Yeah. Okay.

Hey, why don't you do you want it? Can you plug plug your sub stack first? I have a sub stack. It's called Life Lessons and Chain Grease. Yeah.

Um it's a uh You know, I ride my bike and then I... think of stuff to write about and then I write about it and then I hear some people talk on the radio about stuff and then I write about it. Um I think it's life, you know, my life, your life. Um lessons we learn uh throughout our life and then Chain grease is the stuff that makes our lives a little messy. And um I'm trying to be like a psychologist, only a psychologist.

Ooh, did you think of that by yourself? No, I think it's actually somebody actually has a t-shirt out there or a bike jersey out there that says psychologist, but. I think it's 'cause you hit the road and you think a lot about a lot of stuff and Um I've always wanted to write something that You know, my kids or my grandkids someday could look at because you never know how long you're going to be around and. I know they can't read those right now, but there might be stuff they read later. And, you know, I tried doing a YouTube channel, but.

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Like, what have you been doing? This is your sub stack, by the way. Um on the Dan Cheney YouTube. You can see he talks about. Beating your kids.

That was a wrong title. No, it was a g it was a grabby title. Because you and Carlos with a cage were talking about. Playing against kids. And uh I thought that was a really good topic because Carlos doesn't know what he's talking about when he's talking about playing little kids.

Well, we played some kickball today and we got our ass kicked, some of the dads, before it started raining. Oh, well, that's good. That's good. All right. And then there's some other stuff, and it gets greasy when you dabble into politics.

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Okay. As I am bringing my kid into March Madness. Uh Just what I remember. about learning about March Madness. And I remember it was on.

I don't. Feel like you forced me as a six-year-old to fill out a bracket like I'm going to do with him. The tournament I remember the most was in ninth grade I was in. And that would have been the middle school at the time. You ran one, or I ran one.

I know I had all the brackets, and it was not online. I collected them from school, $10, and I would highlight every.

So we ran a bracket out of our house. I remember that. And then you might, cause you were a teacher. Yeah, but it's important. Back.

I think those two days, I mean, you showed the games. Oh yeah, like um So if I was teaching health class It could be it would be like a study hall and we'd have the games on in the background. And if I was teaching gym class, I just put a portable T V in the gym and People could, you know. do whatever game we were playing or whatever we were working on and still. Have access to what was going on in the game because everybody, everybody wanted was, you know, all the kids wanted to know what was going on.

And you ran the bracket because I could certainly not do that as a teacher. Yeah. No, we didn't cheat. Like how I coached. My brother's teams when you couldn't.

Yeah, well, that was just as a WIAA workaround. Yeah, yeah, that was, you know. There was not that everybody that's It takes a village, Dad. Takes a village to raise a kid or raise a child or coach up a team. What did you wheel the TV in for?

Was it just. March Madness were there other events. Um Trying to think. I think March Manus is the only thing that went through the daytime. You know, like there wouldn't.

There would we would never do like a brewer game because If they came on, it's already one o'clock. It was purely just Mark's madness. Cause do you feel w was that frowned upon at the time? Does that fly in today's landscape? You're recently retired, but.

Retired, yes. I think that from what I've seen in this state, Florida. In Florida. The gym classes are are pretty much like a recreation zone and There's not a lot of uh instruction going on so I think Having a T V with the March Madness is probably commonplace in everyone. But I remember there were probably social studies teachers, coaches, anybody that was coaching.

probably had some activity going on so that kids could watch Okay. March Madness in the background, you know. It wasn't really poor phones and even laptops. We're talking about a bygone era. Oh, absolutely.

Because right now they would just have it on, you know. They'd have it their phone and they'd have it in their pocket and their earbuds would be in and you wouldn't even know. That they're listening to the game, trying to maybe watch it, but Um I think it was a better time when they didn't have cell phones in the classroom. But We're long past that. And they laid out cell phones to, I just read that Pokemon Go.

One of that was to survey that they basically made an AI world, and we were all, I wasn't a Pokemon Go guy, but all this stuff that we do, we're just like building AI without us knowing.

So, just to throw that out there. Oh, yeah, there's. We're feeding the machine. Everybody's feeding it. And we'll all be dead probably within five years.

So enjoy this while you can. Um The only things that I can remember the T V being set out for Sorry to be a downer. No, that was out for that. Yeah. The OJ trial.

Oh wow. I was in fourth grade? I don't even remember how long ago that was. I just know Mr. Freeze.

Fourth grade. Who's now a comedian, by the way. Yeah. We watched like We basically did a unit on the OJ trial. Yeah.

We just watched it every day in school.

Well, back when you were in school or even back when I was in school. The stuff that's going on right now. would be televised in our Um Our Civics classes or history classes, and we would be comparing what's going on now to what's happened in the past. And now they can't do that. They can't uh well, I'm not I shouldn't say every state can't do that, but Ford has got some weird education rules coming through, and I feel bad for.

social studies teachers especially but I taught sociology the last year I was teaching.

Sociology and psychology. And, um They recently just took the sociology classroom textbook and ripped about three-quarters of the pages out and added their own thing in it so They they're they're really controlling what You know, what what can be said now? And I. I think that's dangerous, but. But yeah, the history books that I grew up with were written by Ghelane Maxwell's dad.

So I don't really think that this is much different.

Well no, but I think It wasn't much different, but I think now they're even getting to the point where. They're not they're not They're not allowing a lot of critical thinking anymore. And um You know, and again, back to this, the biggest thing was we could. We could talk about what's going on currently and compare it to what we knew of history. And now we can't even do that.

Um And that's where having the NCA tournament in the classroom was good, especially when. You know, Marquette was in and Dieter was playing, right?

So You know, he's a local celebrity, so we had to watch that. Speaking of the world being dumber and no critical thinking, I did take a picture of this and shared it today. And I've seen this before, but I had to bitch about it. These bally sports, or it's FanDuel now. They do this thing.

The Mavs are beating the Cavs. By three. And Then they put a graphic that says the diff is minus three. Oh my gosh.

So, one, they don't even let you figure it out. Cause my kid. Your grandkid, when we watch these games, he will do the math. It's been a great learning tool. Fan to go, here's the diff, and also the diff.

Somebody's like, oh, well, we can't write the difference. Let's make it sound cool. And they wrote the diff. Yeah, that's pretty sad. It's fucking stupid.

Well, we just went somewhere and. Mom paid cash and She had to tell the cashier how much change to give her. It was that bad. It was that bad. Yeah, we're getting dumber.

Are you going to fill out a bracket? Yes, I just got it. I didn't even look at it yet. I caught the tail end of your bracket thing. Um Badgers are going to lose.

They're a five. Yeah, who do they play first? High point. Oh, okay.

Well, they'll win that one. Do you remember us playing the game high point? High point. Oh, I think so. I think so.

What do we do? No, you don't. I don't know. What was that one? I remember the name.

Soda can? Oh no, maybe not. We would take a soda can And I don't have a can of beer. I have a bottle. That's right.

Yeah. But We would take we would take our hand and Smack it. Yeah. And then that would create a a higher point.

So then, what you would have to do the rest is you'd take the highest point of the can. And put your hand on the highest point. It would then make a new high point on the other side. And then your hand would bleed. Yeah, yeah.

Well, I get- Like seven of us would just be gushing blood from our right hand. That was, again, one of those really intelligent games you guys come up with. Jack wants to know: are the Badgers in trouble? I need an expert opinion. Ain't getting it here.

High Point is not far from Charlotte. They have a ridiculous offense, no defense. I think the five seed scares me. Ultimately, I do think they'll pull it out. But I'm not sure they can beat Arkansas with Coach Cal there.

But we'll see. Yeah, I watched them You know they were they competed pretty well in the tournament they you know missing with missing one of their big guys It was unfortunate. I thought they had a chance to beat Michigan yesterday. But, you know, those tournaments, when you play four games in a row and then you get into the big, you know, you start playing already on Thursday. Um That's a lot for them.

They've struggled with that in the past. If the Badgers were able to beat High Point, beat Arkansas slash Hawaii. It would probably be Arizona. Yeah, it does not seem like a good draw for them. No, I think they're gonna get a win and Come home.

Well, life lessons in chain grease. Yeah, sign up today. It's free. Sign up on the sub stack. Sub stack at coach my dad's views on life.

And politics. A little. I try to I try to but if you read the politic on political ones I try not to like. I try to make you think about it instead of just preach. Right.

I said the 250th anniversary should be canceled. Yeah, I believe it should be canceled because we are not going to, we're not a democracy right now. We never have been, Dad. I know, but we can't sell it's even worse now. We don't have three branches of government anymore.

There's a lot. We can talk about a lot, but. This is a sports podcast. No, it's not. Oh, okay.

This is a Carl's Place podcast. Yeah, Carl's Place. Uh with the golf simulators.

So all right, perhaps. Thanks for coming on the show. Hey, thank you for allowing me to. Wear my Wisconsin gear and Let the boy know I wore the hat. I will.

Maybe I'll call you after this and you can see.

Okay, all right. I'll talk to you later. Have a good show. All right. Thanks.

Bye. Greg. Winkler. Bart's dad. Joining us here on the Dan Shaney YouTube.

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We're obviously I don't give a shit. I'm glad Giannis played. I was watching more of the Cavs and Mavs because I did a DraftKings and. I I I played Max Struss and nobody else did, so I barely placed. It was kind of bullshit.

I'm going to bring in Ben and Jake. My Sunday night. Homies What's going on? What's up, my brothers? Talk to me, Ben.

Well, box game was. Kind of surprisingly competitive. And then the Pacers were like. We're going to tank like we've been tanking all season. It was Pretty sad that we had to be competitive with them for three quarters.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. This is 2026. There it is. Yeah, my phone.

I don't know. Something's wrong with it. Yeah, Ben nailed it. Nothing is wrong with your phone. You had it on mute.

Well, I'm saying I couldn't get it off of me, okay? Smart ass. Um, no, I'm I think Ben uh nailed it. The uh it was kind of funny to watch, like the at the fourth quarter, the Pacers just flipped the switch, like, yeah, we gotta shut this shit down. We we're not winning this game.

Yeah, I saw the score was close and then I checked again. My kid had a friend over there playing 2K on the PlayStation, also, is what was happening in the house. And then they're trying to play Minecraft. You got an actual copy of it. Physical media.

Do you guys know much about Minecraft? Uh I saw the movie. I don't play Minecraft. I know a lot of people that do though. I just don't get it.

So, my kids' friend's dad. I'm afraid to play it. I'll probably get sucked into it. I'll learn with my kids if they want to. Holy shit.

I don't understand how I don't get it. But now I like to have to learn because his best buddies are all into it. You know, I don't know. I just got this visceral thought that I bet you Paul Imming is a Minecraft guy. I can see him just.

Hours on Minecraft. And I love Paul. I'm not saying it as a knock. He just. He's very much like a Minecraft type.

I am looking everywhere for the initial original version of SimCity. Where the houses would say R for residential or C or I.

So like the DOS version? What was that? Yeah, that was on like the first. Computer you had. Yeah.

You could probably get it on like an emulator, you know, one of those. I haven't found it. I found like 17 downloadable versions of Oregon Trail, but I'm not after that one. Oregon Trail. I'll have to ask.

I got a buddy who's really good with that stuff. He built like a custom cabinet that has like 130,000 games on it. I bet you it's on there. Either of you got any other thoughts on the Bucs? Um go ahead, Ben.

No, you go ahead. My son's running in the kitchen right now. Fair enough. I was texting about the Bucks earlier with a friend who's like more of a college guy, and he's talking about the Arkansas kid looking good, and maybe he'll be in the Bucks range. And he's like, normally I'm a big NBA draft guy and NFL drafts as well, but he's like, Who's your guy?

Who do you got? And it's just like, I don't, I don't have anything for the Bucks right now. I've never been. More empathetic to a team. And I've got to.

Did I say apathetic? Thank you. I've sat through teams, I had season tickets for a team that had Brian Skinner on it. And yet, this team is still the worst. And it's.

Doc just leaves you completely hopeless. As long as he is in place, there is no upside. There's no getting out of the hole. Yeah, I think for me, there's like a, there's a, as long, I can't get excited about anything as long as Doc is still there. I need Doc to be gone.

Before I get Excited about the draft. Or To a degree, I'm kind of the same way with LaFleur and the Packers. Like, yes, I'm excited. Yes, I'll watch the draft. Yes, I'll be excited for the season, but deep down, I won't really be fully invested in the team as long as he's there.

So we're done on box. Yeah, I wanted to ask you your opinion on the Randy Orton heel turn, but I don't know. If you want to go that route with the show. I can do a minute on that. Yeah.

I'm not an expert on that at all, so I don't I have no opinions on that. I was really wondering about your son, like what was his thoughts on Randy Turner? Dude, not good. Yeah, that's what I imagine. Because I've told him.

I've told him it's not real, but So here's the thing. How old is he? Six.

Okay, I was. I was watching. I was a fan when I was six. I know you were not part. And at that age, I had everybody telling me it's not real, it's fake.

And I didn't believe them when they told me it wasn't. I thought they were messing with me.

So maybe he has some of that going on where, like, he doesn't want to believe it's fake.

So, no matter what, it's just in his mind, it's real. But still, like I wasn't telling him like Randy and Cody had, you know, drinks afterwards, but. Does he play a video game? Is there a WWE video game? We watch it for real.

We just watch it for real. I might, I'm gonna have to buy that. Yeah, yeah, that's that got me hooked when I was young, too. But I think that helped me transition from knowing it was Real or thinking it was real to fake was playing the video game. Which game?

Do you remember? Is it N64? It was Sega. Sega, okay.

Well, it might have been Raw, Royal Rumble. They had some good ones. Yeah. I thought the heel turn, it it seemed like I mean, I know Randy was being like, oh, I thought this was going to be easy. I thought it was going to be Drew.

But I It seemed like you just You know when they do cooking shows and you're like, here's the ingredients. And then they go, 30 minutes later, we pull it out of the oven. Yeah. It felt like they were missing a couple steps.

Well, I think mainly also he hasn't been a heel since like COVID.

Well, what's a big bummer to me is like... This is the first time in his career where Randy Orton has organically been a babyface where the crowd genuinely loves him. And, like, yeah, they cheered him after he kicked Cody's ass. Yeah. And I think they're really trying to like.

Cody's going to turn heel here.

Well, it's it's it's tough for them to do it because the kids are always going to love Cody. It's just like Cena, basically, like, he sells too much merchandise. And I think it would be way more interesting, but I was very disappointed with the storyline because, like, It just didn't make sense, and I think they also feel like maybe we can try this, and then Cody won't get savagely booed at WrestleMania, even though he will. Um, I don't know. It's it's much more interesting on Mondays right now for me.

My wife got up with the kid. Um, And then I had asked her, I said, Did he tell you about... uh Randy beating up Cody and she's like Yes, he did in extensive detail. Randy made Cody bleed, and then he had him in the stairs. And then, but we'll see how it plays out.

Thoughts on the Badgers or any other NCAA-related Thoughts for you, Ben? Um Yeah, Badgers, I saw a tweet. It's like they're the most... lose in the first round or make the final four team. I agree with that.

I want it to lose in the first round. But the bracket's really tough. Like coming into the tournament. I would have thought that, but now that we're locked in in this set in the region, I will be one in one game, one win, I think. That's all I got.

You fill you fill in all brackets? Yeah, I'll fill out brackets. You got a winner yet? No, I haven't watched enough college basketball. If I can be afforded the opportunity to rant a little bit about brackets.

Yeah. We got I don't. Get it. Like People that are genuinely fans of college basketball fill out these predictions. And there's teams they have not watched a single game this year.

But then they sit there and they think about it and they're like, oh, I really think this is the upside opportunity. And it's like. It's just bizarre behavior to me. I never got into brackets. And even more so.

Like thanks. Guys Co-workers. No one cares about your brackets. It's just like your fantasy teams. Like, please just spare them.

You know, this is a little different. This is the sports show. I get this. But like if you're going into work tomorrow. I promise you there's not a single person that gives a you-know-what.

And I'll just I'll be nice about it. I'll be diplomatic.

So that's that's okay. I say a lot of shit. That people like I know I I know the feel there's a feeling though when something happens in your bracket. or your bets, you know, no one cares about your bets.

Sometimes you just have to tell someone. And if we, as a people. Limit how much you're able to tell other people. You know who I'm going to start telling? When I got something to say, I'm going to start telling fucking Chat GPT.

Oh, I thought you were going to say your wife, because yeah, so if you've got a bad beat story, artificial intelligence, I'll hear them all. Mm. I think There's worse things in the world, but it's just like I just my heart drops when I hear someone at work come up to me and they're like. Hey, what do you think? I just know where it's going, and I'm just like, oh, please make this quick.

Like, I don't want to sit through this. That's awesome. No, I like it because it's always fun to have a prediction that nobody else has. And then you have it on paper. Like, you've got the evidence that you were smarter than them on that situation.

It's just fun. And it goes both ways. Like, it's always, you got to have fun with it.

So you can't get angry when other people make a better prediction than you. But you always want to be that person making the better prediction. I don't know. That's how I feel about it. Is it not just luck though?

I mean, because again, or you could be more lucky than other people. Yeah, whatever. And it is. I don't think there's really a lot of people. Like, who does.

Let me just give you a matchup. Like Vanderbilt versus McNeese. Man, I'm a big McNeese guy this year. I'm huge on McNeese. Properly predict that, you'd have to have watched.

I watched one Vanderbilt game this week against Tennessee. Yeah. And it was, they got all the calls, and they have one guy on their team who's really good. But he was like a like a super senior. But um I have no idea McNeese.

McNeese has been in the tournament multiple times, though, I think. Yeah, nobody knows shit. And I don't know much more about the Badgers than the next guy, but I do know that they've only one time, one is a five-seed. And I got the five seat again.

Well, isn't it funny too that stereotype of like you know, not to be sexist, but it's like the the lady at the office that Just picks based on the colors of the jersey. Like, she always wins the pool. It's always that way.

So then that's how you you you do one. No, no, no, no. You do one. Do one. Do one with that mentality.

I wouldn't be able to not make fun of myself. I'll spot your $10 fee. That's all right, buddy. I'll I'll watch a handful of games during the tournament, but yeah, whatever.

Okay. The last thing I want to ask you guys: this is something we'll cover more on. Mm-hmm. Mm-mm-mm-mm. Awesome.

A little bit of a report. Or some uh pontificating. that it seems the Packers At some point, may need to. Look for naming rights on Lambeau Field. Did you guys see that today?

I did not see that. I'll tell you what Nagler said. Oh goody. No, no, no, no. We I like nags.

Uh Nagler has a lot of.

Well, Nagler is okay, it's the other idiot. With the gloves. That's it. Yeah. Oh, okay.

So, Pro Football Talk wrote an article: Packers president and CEO Ed Policy fears the potential impact of the NFL's new economics. On the publicly owned team's ability to compete. Remember when Ed Policy took over, he said one of his. Priorities was keeping the team in Green Bay and a lot of us are like, what the hell? Um Magler says policy.

Has a long runway thanks to the work he did with Murphy in creating and expanding Title Town. But a selling a form of Lambo naming rights. And even taking state money are pretty much Inevitable.

So It wouldn't be like Lambeau Field. Is always going to be Lambo Field, but it would be like Invesco Field at Mile High Stadium. It would be like Lambo field at Quick trip park. Oh, God. Yeah.

Yeah, and this is So From a Packer standpoint. This would suck ass. This would be terrible. This would be terrible. Depending on who the sponsor is would make it a lot worse.

If it's a sh if it's one that we're like, fuck this. Um But The first thing that I, you know. Immig had sent us the thing. He goes, prepare for this on this week. And I said.

I can't like, there's nothing I can do about it because this is late stage capitalism. But you're an owner, buddy. You should be able to step in and...

Well, yeah, but there's nothing like... If the Packers do sell naming rights. That's going to be like, what did I pay $300 for? Yeah. Have another stock sale.

There's enough Packer fans that will give you Make it 500 bucks. Enough Packer fans. I just we can't We got to do whatever we can to prevent it from happening. But I do believe should I live... You know, long enough.

or even 10 years from now. That it will be Lambeau Field at Something. And that's late stage capitalism. Yeah, it's that definitely. I mean, what you just said, that was the first I've heard of this.

Uh yeah, that that didn't feel right, just hearing it. But you're right, it is probably inevitable. Um It it just sucks because number one. There's just not very, very few things in life that are just kind of cool anymore. Like, Green Bay, there's so many unique things about the Packers and being a Packer fan.

And it feels like we're kind of straying further and further away from those things. As you said, late-stage capitalism, that's a just great way of putting it. But I will say, just like with the brewers. It's still Miller Park to me. I say it intentionally and unintentionally when I'm going to a game, yeah, we'll meet you at Miller Park.

It'll always be Miller Park.

So, yeah, I mean, put whatever stupid sticker you want on the stadium. It's going to be Lambeau Field. I'll never call it the. You know, whatever Johnson Johnson presents Lambeau Field, it's just sorry, it doesn't work for me, brother. Obviously, if we had a choice, like.

Sponsor the stadium or the Packers leave. Yeah. But I've I've been under the impression my whole life that the Packers won't leave. No. So if they're going to come out and say, like, we have to do this to stay viable.

Brother, find another. If they say that, they're lying through their teeth. They're just being greedy, just like everybody else. Like, no one's buying that. Yeah.

Q says they already tore down 500 houses to Expand the parking lot. Lambo isn't the same already. Who cares? I mean, it's a lot different than what it was. You could even say that Title Town's late stage capitalism.

That's this is true. Real quick off topic, Q, he's a weird guy, man. Like, uh, I listened to the last show. I thought me and him were good, like... Q's got a problem with me.

You were talking about brackets, and Q said high horse Jake at it again. Yeah. I don't get it. Like, I I met the guy. I thought we were cool.

We were kinda interacting on Twitter and stuff. Um He seems like a Angry guy and kind of a sad guy.

So I feel bad for him in that aspect. But Q, my brother, it's all good. Let it go. They make groups that can help you with this kind of stuff. They meet in church basements.

Just check it out. We are going to squash the Q Jake beef. I would love to. I don't want to have beef with anybody on here. There's too much negativity in this world.

Should have a seltzer together and talk about life, pontificate. Yeah, hit me up in my DMs, brother.

Well, okay, what are we watching tonight? Oscars, World Baseball Classic, AEW. I would rather put my balls on a cold and hot grill than watch AEW, but I will be installing this. WWE 2K26 free plug. And that's what I will be doing tonight.

I'm going to. Tell you the sad truth is I'm promised my wife I would Watch Outlander with her start to finish, so I'm working on watching Outlander more. Oscar picks, Bart.

Okay. Um I don't even know what's up. I don't know what's up. I hope sinners sweet. Sinners are supposed to win.

It was Galibay was, but now people hate them. Yeah, yeah, I saw that. Don't go after the theater, man, or opera, right? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I'll watch the Oscars. I gotta go back and watch Conan's monologue. That's probably all I'll watch.

Just when I go to Lake Chalamet, that's when the world turns on him. It actually is kind of on brand. That makes sense. He's my rest of the day. Jake, final thoughts?

Final thoughts. Yeah, like I said, I hope Sinners sweeps everything tonight because it was the most fun I've had at the theater in years. Ben? I haven't seen very many movies recently that are not kids' movies, so I have Probably very minimal to add to that. I want to go to the next one.

Thank you for going live though. What movie? Hail Mary Oh, Gosling, yeah. He was faithful. Gosling is like, I think he's like the star of this generation.

Like, he is great at everything, isn't he? He is good. Yeah. Gossling is fucking cool. Yeah.

Like, I feel like you would meet him and you would get along with him. You know, like, he wouldn't be, he wouldn't act like a star. For everyone who thinks I hate everything. Let them know that I think Ryan Gosling is a fucking cool guy. Yeah.

All right. Thanks, Bart. Thanks, Joe, as always. See you, Jake. Thank you guys.

Thank my dad. And thank all of you. Options are plenty here on this Sunday night, or perhaps your Monday morning. Maybe you've got this in the earbuds as you're shoveling. Looking forward to that.

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