If you're an HVAC technician and a call comes in, Granger knows that you need a partner that helps you find the right product. Fast and hassle-free. And you know that when the first problem of the day is a clanking blower motor, there's no need to break a sweat. With Granger's easy-to-use website and product details, you're confident you'll soon have everything humming right along. Call 1-800-GRANGER, clickgranger.com, or just stop by.
GRANGER for the ones who get it done. We heard you. Nine years of bring back the snack wrap, and you've won. But maybe you should have asked for more. Say hello to the Hot Panny Snack Wrap.
Now you've really won. Go to McDonald's and get it while you can. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome into the Winkler Verse. I'm Bart Winkler alongside Is Grand Pills?
And alongside Is Paul Immig, it's our weekly mm-hmm mm-mm. Dare I say the Flagship show of the Winkler. Verse Podcast. Network Mm-hmm. The WVPN.
Um and it's great to Be with you here on Tuesday, February 17th, is the recording date of this. Here on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream. And wherever you're getting your pods. Lots happened since we've last. Triumvirated.
And I like when we vertically since we've last mm-hmmed. I was proud of Triumvirated. Is that a? That's not a work. It's not a work.
I made it up. When you do that, okay, okay. No. Yeah, since we've last mm-hmmed. Yeah.
What has happened?
So the Super Bowl happened? It did. Uh, pretty boring. Who won again? Oh yeah, Seattle.
Yep. The Rams. Uh bucks Bucks. Did you listen to my thirty with Jim O? Yes.
I thought that was a good convo. Good convo. Jim's great. And Jim will always make you feel better about the state of the Bucs. Jim will always do that thing.
I don't know, man. I feel. I don't know what's even possible, but I feel like. We're the we're the one Team that's tanking that's but they're not. The one team that's out of the play and that Oh oh oh okay, I'll wait.
Hang on. Brewers traded derbs. True. The one time I made a friend in this fucking business. Yep.
Yep. I thought, I thought, I thought, I mean, I don't even know if I was getting, I don't know. It was just a bummer. We had a nice talk. Yeah.
I'm bummed. Third place rookie of the year. Yeah, five years of service remaining on the continent. I don't know who's more men, me or apparently, Bud Selig. Yeah, I saw that.
How about maybe this guy? What? Oh. Mark Antonasio on the Dan Cheney YouTube stream. Again, we're brought to you by Carl's Place.
For the Mm-hmm of whom's And I guess I'll just let you take it away, Captain Emmig.
Well, let's let's do um Vampire. I should probably take it and go brewer. Let's start with bucks. Let's start with bucks. Yeah.
Alright, um Better for the health of the Bucs considering both present and future, if choosing between fighting to make the plan and seeing what happens, or having the last two months be bad. The better option. Is fighting to make the plan and seeing what happens. Or mm-mm. I'm going to hit you with a mm-hmm.
Okay. I'm gonna but let's get back to basics on mm-hmm. Can we? Let's talk. Yeah.
So my the variance of my mm-hmm. is how much I'm Like from one to ten. Sure. Mmm, mmm. Ten.
Like you used to drop those on the radio show if it was very because you just liked making the noise. Altizer is probably the best judge of the Oomph behind your answers. You know what we should do? We got to get like a second track where we have Toby. Can you have him say?
Get record Toby separately saying That's a three. And then we'll like, I'll have like a button and then Bart like and Toby, I'll plug. That's a three. You know, it'll be a nice little addition. You want Toby drops?
Toby drops. One. I just need Toby saying, that's a one. How come Toby didn't make Cohn's video? You have to ask Cohn.
I notice a lot of members of the Winklerverse. Yeah. And there's not too many. He'd be a Patriot, I think. You'd have to put Toby as a Patriot.
Yeah. The better option is fighting to make the play and then seeing what happens. Or. For the health of the future of the Bucks. Mm mm.
That's a six. I was gonna say, that's about a six, maybe a seven. Maybe a seven. Maybe a seven. Um So, mathematically, take your emotions and opinions out of this.
Mm-hmm. What? Uh mm-hmm. Mathematically Okay. And let me do this.
Let me do this for the video consumers, and I'll read along with it. And this is something that I also could. I wa I can put video on Spotify, but I just get too lazy every week to do that. But let's look at the tanking situation.
Okay, look at the tanking situation. Look at that. The Bucs currently are in ninth. With 23 wins. Do you want to be a top five pick?
I mean, again, we're going to see what the odds do or the top five odds. Yeah. Yeah. But 15 wins for Brooklyn. You're not you're not quote unquote catching Brooklyn You're not catching these teams.
The Bucks are trying. Didn't they keep Brooklyn two wins? Didn't they let Brooklyn beat him twice? Are two of those Milwaukee?
Well, Washington's up there. I have 14 wins. Three are against us. I think. Holy cow, Sacramento has lost 14 in a row.
Yeah. Is that report true that Silver's trying to clamp down on tanking now because gambling companies are on his ass. I saw the same report you did. I don't know. If I may just say, if I may just go full screen for a minute to really.
Emphasize My point here. He's going for a clip here, Grant. Adam Silver's a fucking loser. All right. Oh, that was it.
Okay. Yeah, I don't know, I don't I don't I don't need anything else than that. All right. So the point of this is you're not. If you want a tank.
You're not gonna be able to. Yeah, and you've been shopping on anthropology, but yes. Yeah. And American Eagle? Yep.
Any progressive and Well, that's bad. I gotta, Tim, you gotta edit that out because we're a Dan Shaney family in this house. You're a word. Get that shit off me. Get that shit off my screen.
Hit the X, hit the little ad box X. Jesus. Christmas.
So mathematically, tanking's out of the window. In terms of, I think, like what we think tanking could and should be. Yeah, and let me let me just I'll just jump in and just say purposeful losing a la like the jazz, the pacers, the There are teams getting fined for trying to lose too much. I'm not advocating trying to lose. But The version where there's like competitive losses, and you know, they're losing, but it like wasn't disastrous and purposeful.
So, Take so again, I didn't use the word tanking in the question. It was just that better for them to lose. Or to fight their way in an attempt for the plan and see what happens.
So I get where you're going, but just I just want to be clear on the. I think it's better for them to just see what happens. I mean, You know, best case scenario, you win an NBA title. That can happen, yes. Best case scenario.
Most likely scenario is we get to experience what the play in tournament's like. Oh, joyous. And then we get beat by like the Pistons. This is a huge amount of pistons disrespect I'm about to show. But like To what degree are the one-seated pistons favored over the eight-seated bucks?
Probably minus 150, not much. Right? It wouldn't be. The one in. It depends how the Bucks are coming in.
Well, they would be in theory, they'd be coming in off of two play-in wins and off of. You know. If they're in the 9-10 game, they just won their past two and Detroit's very good. I um I made my easy I made my NBA championship bet already in December. I Put ten dollars on the Celtics to win five hundred.
Let me just be clear. I told we had a conversation on we In June or July. If you had to make, and this was after Tyrese Halliburton had been injured and after Jason Tatum had been injured. You don't need to talk about this. And I proposed to you guys that I think the team I think is the best chance of coming out of the East is the Celtics.
And you guys are like, the fucking Celtics. You really dumped on my Celtics take.
Well, I didn't realize they were going to trade for um Voch. Vooch, yeah. If I knew that, I mean, they were good before they had Vooch, too. I didn't anticipate the Pacers just trying to play as poorly as possible. Like, the Pacers shouldn't be this bad.
I'm sorry, this just shouldn't be. Like, there's just teams who have just opted out of the season. Like, who's even good in the East? The Pistons, I guess. Yeah.
Yeah, if you're the pacers, do you regret what you're doing a little bit? Come on. Yeah. Uh no, you probably don't. Because you weren't going to do anything without.
But this makes Halliburton, like, this is making Halliburton, like, you know what this is doing? You know what this is fucking doing? What is this doing? This is setting up Halliburton to win MVP next year. Comeback Player of the Year.
Yeah. If the Pacers win 46 games. I mean, then they're like, oh, I mean, you have a clear one. You have a clear finals, shocked. Uh, god damn it.
God damn it. Can I bet on that for a year in advance, Halliburton MVP? I think it's a a great early bet if you're allowed to make it. Can I say something else? No.
Yes. This podcast We here Are gonna I want more money.
Okay. More sponsorships. But I am not getting into the predictive market. situation. I'm not having a Twitter account with fucking Kelshi or Polymarket logo.
We all own it. I'm not simping for these brands. Did you see that video these people Betting on traffic. No, really? Oh, yeah.
Like, how many cars are going to cross an intersect? It's fucked up. Were they counting blue cars? Oh, dishwalla, drink. Oh, God.
What a great reference. Yeah. So I don't. No, no, no.
So regarding the Bucs, yeah, I'm going to root for them to win. It's still like apathetic enough where If you wait the day of, you'll find a cheap seat. Nobody's going to these fucking games. That's actually great advice that you just shared. I didn't know that it was advantageous still.
Okay, good. I did that once, and then they said that they don't have my ticket.
So I had to buy a second ticket when I got there.
So I did. I don't buy day of anymore, so I don't go anymore. What, when, how, why, who, and where? Say more. years ago.
Um, two years two years ago maybe. I purchased through StubHub like two hours before the game. And then. I like never got the, they never sent a code, and then I got there, and they're like, Yeah, we don't have it.
So I just. But at that point, I was pot committed. I wanted to go.
So I bought another shitty ticket. Every time I put that phone on the reader, I'm like, please God, please God, please God, please God. One time I had tickets. For the top level, because we went for Sesame Street Day to get the Elmo Bobblehead. Um And then I bought tickets.
While at the game. to go sit lower. Oh I could I could have just but I bought tickets in like the second inning. Anyway, I thought it was a sick-ass move, but I actually like it. I endorse it.
I could have just snuck down. No, you're an honest guy. I'm an honest man. And. Look, I'm trying to support my teams.
I'm happy to give my teams money. You're a big Mark 8 guy. And one day you'll learn to pronounce his last name correctly. One day. Didn't I just do it here?
You fucking did not. I didn't. No. Trade. Atanasio.
Atanasio. Oh, it's Atenasio? There's no N in that opening sentence. I'm not getting an N. Ant.
Let's tell you R. At Art. No, you're just pronouncing the A different.
Well, correct. I'm like saying I'm going to my aunt and uncle's. I'm not some. British Duke. I'm not saying it that way.
Wait, are you you're an and guy? Yeah. You're an odd guy? I find myself fucking surprised. If there's anyone on this planet that's an aunt guy, it's fucking Paul Immig.
I'm an aunt.
Well, to be clear, it's aunt and uncle. Yeah, it is Uncle. Yeah. Let me that it's I made that up. uh here it is by the way here's my elmo bobblehead i got that day Aren't you?
What the fuck? Aren't you glad you bought multiple tickets for that game? Hey guys.
Sounds like he's in the Bee Gees. Yeah, that wasn't a great elbow. This no, I don't know. I Jeff Person can fucking do one Yeah. I'm more of a Kermity frog here.
I've got my Mickey Mouse down, Pat. Do you? Oh yeah. Let me hear it. Yeah.
Yeah. Grant. Mm-hmm. What? Gorsh.
Oh, I'm sorry. I can top I can top your goofy then T.
Well then fucking do it all. Yeah. I'm not feeling it right now. I'm not feeling it. Bart, I'm gonna toss it over to Gran for the better thing.
for the present and future of the box. is to So, you try to win the try to get in the plane and see what happens. Or which I don't think is a great option. Like, I think that will suck. Like, I don't think that will go well.
But I don't think the other thing is going to go. But like they're going to get some 17-year-old. From Chechnya, and then they're going to trade him next summer, and it won't matter.
So, like, they're not getting a good player in the lot. We're going to get like Tyler Smith and AJ Johnson. We're going to be like, these guys are building blocks of the, oh, they're gone. Yeah. And it's gone.
And it's gone. So I yes. Mm-hmm. But not because I think it'll go well. I just, on principle, think winning is good.
And also, I don't think the other thing is. Like, we're not going to go into this summer being like, and now we have a pick. Like, I think the pick will probably suck. Because Giannis is going to want to come back and play because he's a competitor or whatever. Is he like the only NBA player that gives a shit about the all-star game?
Like, he's at all the events. No one else can't be bothered to show up. To the dunk contest? E.J. Edgecombe didn't want to do the dunk contest.
That to me, I'm parroting Bill Simmons, but that's cancel it. Anyways, the all-star takes, by the way, very upset about all of them. It's a yearly, it's an annual thing. You just do it on the Monday after, and then you don't think about it for another year. Yeah, but everybody's wrong.
The ratings were better because they were sandwiched between the Olympics. Duh. Yes, they had the lead-in. Um The the uh the games, all that shit being earlier. It was earlier back in the 90s.
Who gives a shit? That was fine. Um And then the game was better, but It's because You know, fatty and lard ass didn't try, didn't play. Yeah. Somebody yoga chain.
Luca. Luca. Honestly, those two fucking guys. Those two tanked the all-star game. Those two did it.
They're getting away with it. Don't you love how Jokic just is mostly apathetic to the actual sport that he plays, and no one, like, no one really pulls it against him that much. Nobody really cares all that much. I know he's got the most incredible PR team of all time. I don't get it.
I don't fucking understand it. He's the Sean Payton of the NBA. He's the John Lynch of the NBA. Ooh. Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Very good. Big thanks to our sponsor, BetterHelp, for partnering with us for this important conversation about mental health. This is Steve Smith here, former NFL wide receiver and host of the 89 Show on YouTube.
So, having a counselor and working with BetterHelp gives you an opportunity to really start to unpack, but people don't understand when you unpack things, you also open up a box that you're not always sure what's inside.
So, I think that's why seeing a professional is extremely important. If you need someone to open up to, visit BetterHelp. That's betterh.com/slash 89 to get started. We heard you. Nine years of bring back the snack wrap and you've won.
But maybe you should have asked for more. Say hello to the Hot Panny Snack Wrap.
Now you've really won. Go to McDonald's and get it while you can. But by the way, both of my both of them Both of my NBA buddies both said mm-mm.
So they disagree with you guys.
Well, they're your friends. I was going to say, one is an old MacBook Pro, and the other is a Microsoft computer in the basement. Oh my go, I don't even know how I didn't even think about this. Uh-oh. I l I saw Within the last hour.
Honestly. I saw this tweet. About how This guy, God, I gotta find this. was like charting his friends. And What he determined was His newest friends have given him a negative ROI.
Yeah. He's got war for his friends. It's not worth the friendship that he's given into them. I love it. And he's basically say, oh, how did I see this tweet and not think of...
Aunt Imig. Huh? Unco. Ungo unko iMeg. There you go.
I think it sounds like a smart guy who's really evaluating his life. Good for him. Bucks are a game and a half of the back of the plane, by the way. And they should absolutely do that. Yeah.
Yes. I think The magic are in there. They'll get in. The Hornets are going to get in. They're playing great.
Yep. Hawks have lost three in a row. Bulls have lost six.
So, I think you get the 10 or the 9. You're not going to get up to the 8. They're four and a half back of that. Who is it right? You're probably gonna have to win a game.
That's the heat. You're gonna have to win a game. And then win another game, is what's going to happen. I want to see, I like. Let's do it.
Okay, let's do it. Even if we lose, we get a pick. They can advance twice before Giannis gets injured, too. That'll give them a chance to technically advance two rounds before Giannis strains something. And it's worth saying, like, I know everyone, I think everyone listening would know this, but it's not like.
If the Bucs, they're never going to catch like the New Orleans pick, for example.
So they're going to keep their own pick. Yeah. And this is something that Dallas did last year. Dallas lost in the play-in. and got the number one pick.
Yeah. So you going for the play and even putting every effort to do that and then losing.
Now, the Bucs won't get the number one pick because if they do, it will go to... Atlanta via New Orleans. But You'll still get. You know, whatever would come next from the next pick between either New Orleans or Milwaukee. In the lottery balls.
Like the point is, you can go for it and still lose. I think it's relevant that, you know. One of my two MacBook friend buddies, as you referenced it, was it was, but also I'm okay with it.
So it's like, you know, probably better for the long-term health if they lose, but also if they happen to go on a a little play-in run, it wouldn't be the worst thing. It would be Short term would be obviously much more fun to see them. How many but how many games do they have left? Twenty? Two, twenty-four.
Yeah. I always forget how much shorter the stretch after the all-star break is. Yeah, it's the second half grand. No. The final third.
What is the how many games have they played, Martin? You have it up in front of you still? I do. They have played 53 games. It's 29 remaining.
29 left. Almost the third mark. Thank you. Thank you very much. If they did go ahead and, you know, win.
What's even realistic for a good second half? 17 and 12, they go, 16 and 13. That's is that Completely unrealistic. I don't I don't think so. Oh, I did a nerdy Paul Emmick thing the other night.
I started College Football Dynasty just to rearrange the conferences. You're getting smarter by the day. Yeah. So basically, the sentiment with the Bucks. Is the same as it was.
Ten years ago. When it was cheaper to keep them. Hmm. It's just it's just less of a hassle just to try. It's just, it's not that less of a hassle just to just fucking try.
That's okay. I had this thought since we've last, which I'm going to keep saying to try to bring that into the Winkler verse lexicon. For a season that will ultimately likely be completely meaningless and a waste of everybody's time. The number of like roller coaster ups and downs that this one has had relative to like the emotions of the fan. That to me, I think it's been significant.
Like, how many, like it was completely realistic. I said to you guys a few weeks ago, like, I just want off this ride.
Okay, well, then they keep Giannis through the trade deadline. They win a couple games in the row. Giannis is doing like licking lips to Cam Thomas off the bench. And it's like, okay, like, I'm kind of curious what this could actually look like, even in a lost season.
So. And yet, by the way, Giannis has Well, the reporting around Ianis. and then to an extent as well, Giannis himself. have been the reason for the the roller coaster aspects of this. The only thing I would say is like if they make the play-in.
And win, and they had like a competitive series against the Pistons. I do think the thing that needs to happen for the 2026, 27 Bucks. is to have a different head coach. Yes, but I feel like that is a non-starter for them. That to have a different coach.
Somehow it does seem that way. It really feels to me. Doc's the guy. Doc will be here.
So I don't even. I've given up. Tog, I mean Plus, I don't want to, you know, I can't be ranting and raving to fire two coaches around here. People are already mad at me. For the one.
Like on it, like I really, I want to address that again. This is like people fucking hate that I don't like LaFleur. They hate it. Yeah. You don't get it.
I think it's more the messenger. I think the message is widely. There's a lot of people singing this song. I think it's more the singer in the way that.
Okay, so what's the problem? Why can't I say it? Cause you're a turd. Yeah. Don't enable this, don't enable this, Paul.
Don't this is not me. I've got, look, I've got Cone, we've mentioned him before, I've got him in my head. I've got him in my head at all times. to try to not be classic victim, which I do. You're doing it now.
I know I am. And that's why he's right to call it out.
Okay. But But But I I think from a casual observer If you were like somebody that was in a different radio market. And you just observed the last 10 years of Wisconsin sports radio. I think you would be like. Bart's criticized differently.
Than other like than other people. His leash is shorter. in the terms of public perception. Why? Why is that?
I don't know. I don't know. In other markets. I would be. A superstar.
Revered here. I'm sitting in front of a pegboard at 2:30 in the afternoon. Pariah. Talking to my bro chiefs. Your zebros?
Yeah, my z my zebros. What we say zebros or some shit? Have you seen uh Zootopia 2 yet? No, but But you're I don't know what the butt is. I'm never fucking going to.
No, no, but I'm going tonight.
Now it's on my list.
Now I'm worried when movies make sequels. It's like, oh, okay, now we're going to have a universe. We're going to have to do it. Zootopia beginnings someday, and then a sixth episode on fucking Paramount Plus called Zootopia Outside the Zoo or something. The final Topia.
The first Zootopia was a perfectly fine movie. Zootopia 2 was really good. Oh. Good. I endorse it for you.
I just, you, it's too much, Mark. It's too much. You have like a different video every day for a different, like, you did a video breakdown of his speech to the Badgers, which was lame, but like, that could just. You just let that one be. No, no, no, no.
No, that's exactly the reason I don't like LaFleur. I have to, that was my magnum opus. Yeah. I It would be my guess that he was not planning to address, that he was there, and someone from Wisconsin was like, Come say something to the team. And he was like, I don't have anything to say.
And they're like, it's fine. Just come on. And then he. That would be my guess as to how that went down. But if you're an NFL head coach of the Packers for seven years, don't you think like that should be like, oh, yeah, that should be like doing a radio hit for you.
Oh, yeah, I can do a hit quick. I can do 10 minutes quick on the Brewers. Do you need to prep? Do you need our questions? No.
Matt, can you talk to young athletes for 20 fucking seconds without making an ass of yourself? A fair retort. That's a fair retort. I'm just enough about you. Let's talk about me.
Anything else in the box? Good. I said by piece. Yeah, I did too. Go.
I just wanted to show you guys. Have you ever checked this out? Look at this. This is Carl's place. I'll link link in bio, link in link tree.
Golf simulators of your sort. Check out the website. Look at that. You got the Build Your Own Dream Golf Simulator. You got a little kid doing it.
Bogeys are no fun. All weather is golf weather. I probably could prepare a better read, but I'm just showing you. This is called Helping Hands. This is Helping Hands.
Right, do you know about that, Grant? I don't. Helping hands is the TV turn for when you're showing something you're talking about. Oh, oh, I thought it was like their proprietary simulator technology that. No.
And this is what I say for those that are like, oh, I really want a golf simulator, but I have no space. or it's not in the budget right now. We've all got a friend that They could put a golf simulator in their garage and make them do it.
Okay. Make them do it. And then go over to their house. Say, oh, you need a buddy. I'll come over anytime.
There you go. Yeah. So check them out. Paul. Superies.
Pitchers and catchers reported to spring training. Which naturally leads to this hypothetical question. The Brewers are planning for game seven of the NLCS.
Somehow, miraculously, every pitcher is on full rest. Let's go. Don't ask me how that's possible. We haven't even had a game yet, and you're about to pull this? This is like when I say before the Packers season, who's going to lead the Packers in receiving yards?
This is one of those. Can we not do that topic next year? Based on your projections for the Brewers' pitching staff this season? The pitcher you're choosing for that game seven spot is Obviously, Brandon Woodruff. Mm-hmm.
Or mm-mm. No, he'll be hurt. Yeah. That was that was my thought too. By the way, I said they're on full rest.
I know, but I mean, there's a difference between a good sports hypothetical and fucking Candyland, Paul. Like, there's. I like this one. I had a couple different versions of it. I wanted to go this direction.
I think it'll be somebody not on the roster. I almost literally said. The pitcher you're choosing for that spot is?
Someone who's not currently on the roster. I swear to God, that was my next leg win.
Well, I don't know. I don't know if you guys are aware of this. Mike. One thing that we do Yeah. Sports radio and as baseball fans is we really go crazy about what that opening day lineup is going to be.
But just because it's the opening day lineup. Doesn't mean it's going to be the lineup for game two, either. You know, there's always moves that they're making.
So. To wonder in advance who could it be. I mean, we just don't know. We just, we don't, we don't know. I would say Brandon Woodriff, if he's healthy, yeah.
Miz would be a two. I was really impressed with Miz in the playoffs, dude. He bowed up.
So, like, if he's got to take the ball in a playoff game, again, what day is it?
Okay, February 17th. If Miz has to take a balloon game, it's a Tuesday of February. What is a random Tuesday of February? I'd be happy with Miz, too. I just, can we just get Brandon Woodruff in a playoff game healthy for Christ's sake?
So, if he's healthy and able to pitch, yes, I want him. Yeah. It's like witnessing a solar eclipse. Yeah. How close would you have been, Grant, to saying Not Woodruff.
Ms. Ms is close. Yeah, you don't want to go with your boy Priest or Chad Patrick. No. Priester couldn't throw a strike at Wrigley.
No. By the way, you could also answer the question: the starting picture for that game seven is obviously. A bullpen day. Bullpen, start with Trevor McGill. Worked well for him last year, game five against the Cubs.
No, I would do wood or if if he's healthy. Let's trust that. that intangible, that metal. Personality thing. Did I see that he is the only Brewers pitcher that has more than two years of MLB experience right now?
Is that right? I mean, among the starters? Does that sound right? Mm yeah, I suppose. Does the impending lockout Taint.
Uh Yeah. Does it does it limit your groined upness? About this season, because it does for me. A little a l a little bit. I've got this thing that I talk to.
A lady about. And what I go back to a lot of one of the two ladies who you professed.
Well, the other one's a man.
Okay, one of the two people. Yeah. My therapist. I don't call him therapist. It's more like a friend.
Okay. Someone you pay eighty bucks an hour to talk to. Yeah. Seventy-five? I mean, it depends how long that I go.
If I go over the, I think it's like structured like 36, 48 an hour. Like if I go into the 37th minute, but she gives me some leeway.
Okay. Go ahead.
Sorry. You know what I want to do is I want to broadcast that. I want her on my show. What are you doing? I wanna be like, I'd like What if you're a therapist and you're this fucking guy?
It's like, hey, I got an idea. Will you do help? I can't even say it. Do you mean an hour pod with me? I'll tell you who is going to do an hour pod with me this week and who should be my therapist.
So check out Thursday. Frames. Freemes, Moses will be back. Into the Winkler verse. Where was I?
I don't know. Killing your excitement for the brewer season. Oh, yeah, your groined-upness. Thank you. Very good.
Some like I'm I'm I've often had like a I've had this thought, like, if we knew for sure. The world was going to end. Seven years from today. And there was no way out. Would we do anything like tomorrow?
Or would you go to work? This is the plot of the Netflix movie Don't Look Up. Kinda, yeah. And it's like at what point Do you stop going to work? At what point?
So you're on this ride. Fucking instantly. You know you're going to drive off the cliff. How do you make that car ride as enjoyable as possible, or don't you? Yeah, I don't know.
I don't like this. Can we move on? What I'm saying is. If I know something bad is going to happen. What they'll tell you is, you got to make the most of every day.
But I can't if I know the bad thing is still going to happen. Mm-hmm. I don't know. I know the lockout's coming. I'm not going to get.
I'm going to be like one foot in, one foot out of this season. It's not going to happen in the middle of the season, though. I know. I know. I just It's going to happen, though, and it's going to be bad, and it's going to be long, and it's going to be terrible.
I mean, fine. We'll blame the players and side with the billionaires. By the way, it's his own thing. Not inconsequential to this conversation is Tony Clark resigning today. Mm-hmm.
Director of the Players. Scott Boris can be the shadow director. He already was the shadow director, I suppose. It will probably, well, okay. How about this then?
Bart, you almost Your first love. Baseball. Cubs baseball. Specifically. How old what w were you nine during that lock up?
Six, ten. Eight. If it is truly, honestly, if you could fast forward, and it's like there was a terrible 2027 baseball lockout.
However, The league drastically improved as a result. You would take that trade. Mm-hmm. I guess I have answered yes to that question in the past.
Okay. 'Cause I came back to baseball, but again it was the steroids that did it. Grant. Was not even alive during the home run chase in 98. Is that fucked up?
I was alive in 98. When? February.
So I was alive. When's your birthday? February.
February what? 98. No, what day? Oh, 25th.
Next week? Yeah. I didn't know that. What did you I'm sorry? Paul, is yours in April?
Yeah. Look at me. Very good. No, I would not lose an entire season of baseball. No.
No. Grant. Birthday. There you go. Nice.
Thank you, Bart. Facebook bothers me that B is not capitalized. Facebook probably would have let you know. Yeah, you're right. I would not give up a season of baseball.
I like my teams to play their games. I don't really go on Facebook except to save pictures of my friends' wives. Yeah. Yeah. Big dog.
Grant, you were actually answering a good question, I thought. I like winning and I like the games to be played. I don't like hypothetical. Tanking for lottery picks, losing to get coaches fired, missing games to improve the sport. No.
I don't want any of that. No short term pain for grant bills. I don't know that an entire season missed would be short-term pain. That would be like six months of my calendar year where I have nothing to talk about. That would be long-term pain.
Ah, like twenty twenty. Yeah. They're always going to play 60 games. Why didn't they just come out right away and say it and admit it to everyone? We all knew that was the plan the whole time.
Sayer. Uh speaking of my speaking of my friend's wife's joke. Oh boy. Let me show you this tweet from Jeff Passon. 10 minutes ago, here, this is re-recording.
MLBPA Executive Director Tony Clark resigned after an internal investigation revealed he had an inappropriate relationship with his sister-in-law. Oh my goodness. We've been hired by the union in 2023. Oh. I just thought it was to not have to be the players union round.
I do. Going into this will weaken the players' union. Chaos at the NFL players' union has been good because they're weak, and the league gets to dictate terms, and it's better for us, the consumer. This is what we need, actually. We need a fracture in the players' union.
Yikes. Wow.
Okay. No, the players, I want them to make every cent possible, even if it means missing baseball.
Okay. Are you going to be on the player's side? No, God, no. How not? I'm going to side with the billionaire owners and Mark Otnacio.
Are you kidding me? No. You're siding with the owners, honest? Spirit yeah, mostly, yeah. Not good.
Because the owner the owners That was one of our best exchanges, just so you know. Neither of you knew if the other one was kidding or not, or to what degree they were amplifying. It was really fun to watch. And then I hit him with an. Not good.
Yeah. No, I but this owner is the owner, it's bullshit. The owners They have the magic elixir here. They're going to be able to say to fans. Hey, don't you want a salary cap?
We're trying to give you that. And the fans are going to be like, yeah. But they're not, they're tricking us. They're going to make us think they're on our side. This is a very devilish tactic where you give the person what they want.
But at what cost? I find the likes of Bryce Harper and Manny Machado to be more unlikable when Rob Manfred, who I think is a decent commissioner, comes into the clubhouse and Bryce Harper's. Good man. If you're here, Bryce Harper, who drinks raw milk and he looks like he's on death's door, if you're here to talk about a salary cap, then get the fuck out of our clubhouse. Like, oh, yeah, Bryce, you're such an alpha.
Or Manny Machado, who's got maybe two or three brain cells to rub together, is like, any team can do what the Dodgers do. I don't get it. Like, those are the guys I'm supposed to cheer for. Screw those guys. Hey, you know what?
You know what's pissing me off, honestly? You know what's actually bad for baseball is when the Brewers trade Caleb Durbin. That's worse than the Dodgers signing Kyle Tucker to a contract where he's the fucking sultan. I tweeted that, and so many people in my replies are like, you're kidding me. You're an idiot.
That's my new favorite thing, is just saying this thing that the Brewers have done is way worse than anything the Dodgers have done. You know what, I'm gonna, you know what would make me do it? You know what, you know what, you know what, guys? I'm just gonna tweet whatever the fuck I want. And it's not gonna, like, I'm gonna contradict myself.
Often. And I don't give a shit. No one will notice. Who cares? Malafleur's a great cat, I'm sure.
I'm ready for him to fire up my squad. Mm-hmm. There you go. Keep it going now. He says as he leans back.
Keep it going though. Hey, hey, hey. Speak on now. Stack that shit. Look, I'm glad that.
I don't disagree with you that it was not a great it's who cares? Don't you get tired of just Lafleur maxing all the time on all of your feeds? You don't get tired of it? No! Not at all?
No, I get tired of people. I don't understand why we don't want our teams. We do more PR work for them than the teams. They don't even need a department. Not good.
Not good. Look, I'm with, look, I'm with you. Like, I think the most likely scenario is they win nine or 10 games next year and they're in the exact same spot. But also at a certain point, like And I want to root against them, so I'm right, but I need to root for them, so I'm right about Jordan Love. I'm very conflicted.
Grant, did I not see you? I don't know if I would have seen it if you hadn't responded, but I thought I saw it earlier today. you responded to one, Peter Bukowski, who did a whole thing about The Packers retaining LaFleur makes them all in. Don't how does he not tag me in that fucking shit? He's clearly responding to a thing I said yesterday that he quote-tweeted.
How does he not fucking tag me or ask me? And I'll probably have him on the show this week, but what the fuck, man? There's no one doing it like Peter. Which I think was your exact response, right? There's no one doing it like him.
All right, I was with somebody recently. And they were looking at Twitter. Oh And like recently, as yesterday, they were looking at Twitter and they saw Bukowski. His tweet quote tweeting me. And And uh he's like, I don't know about this Peter guy.
I go There's never been. In the history of the world.
Someone who is the gap between how cool they are in real life and online. Yeah. Pete's the best I love Pete. Online, I wanna fucking kick him in the nuggets. Here's on today's lockdown.
I'm like that too, but I'm like a distant fucking second to him. On today's lockdown Packers, here's why the Packers keeping Matt LaFleur is actually a sign that they are all in. It's like, how? I'm going to have to listen to this episode. I know.
I got to fucking listen to this shit now. Not good. Not good. Not good at all. Speaking of not good.
We're going to the and stuff section of the show. Are you ready? Mm-hmm. Yeah, and then I got some helping hands for you to wrap things up. Big thanks to our sponsor, BetterHelp, for partnering with us for this important conversation about mental health.
This is Steve Smith here, former NFL wide receiver and host of the 89 Show on YouTube.
So, having a counselor and working with BetterHelp gives you an opportunity to really start to unpack, but people don't understand when you unpack things, you also open up a box, but you're not always sure what's inside.
So, I think that's why seeing a professional is extremely important. If you need someone to open up to, visit BetterHelp. That's betterh.com/slash 89 to get started. You've made it on time for the McDonald's breakfast menu. You think to yourself, finally, I can start my day.
But what if breakfast could be even more perfect? With the hot honey sausage egg biscuit, it finally is. Go to McDonald's and get it while you can. Going to Blockbuster video? Or clicking a few buttons and watching pretty much any movie or TV show you want, you can only do it one way for the rest of your life.
You would choose Blockbuster. Mm-hmm. Or mm-mm. What the fuck? This is a nostalgic, important question that I need to talk about.
Okay, did you hear what I have been talking about? I think I brought this up with Carlos, maybe another guy. I brought it up. I'm only like 10 minutes into the national perspective. Ah.
I feel like so two things I want to say here. One I think they've had AI capabilities for a long time. And they're just rolling them out now after they trained us for 20 years. To like be lazy as fuck. If AI, like, if it was 1993 and all of a sudden AI came out, we'd be like, we don't like this.
Yeah. It looks like I have a booger, but I don't. You got something. It's just my hair. One st one straggly like oranger one.
I know, it looks like a fucking booger. All right, so that's what I think about that. The other thing was. Oh, well, news flash, it was a booger. Damn.
No, I got a remedy for that. Damn. Okay. So Yeah.
Now they want us to wear. To my ask. Oh, it's so weird putting this on. What the fuck? We had diapers on our face.
Just walking around. Fuck. All right, get to the chlorophyll. If If Blockbuster If Blockbuster was like Tomorrow. They said.
We're in. We love nostalgia. We've been hearing this. What we've been doing is we've been building, we've been renting. We're ready.
We're going to back. Blockbuster's back. This weekend. People would flood Blockbuster. Like it was a new restaurant in a town of 800 people.
You would be in line. For hours possibly to rent the video and we'd love it. By the second weekend. DoorDash or Uber Eats or a new startup. Would have a video delivery service.
Oh We'll deliver you. You want a physical copy of a VHS? Oh. We'll deliver it for you. And Blockbuster would be killed again in a fucking weekend.
We don't really want it. We don't really want it. Oh. I don't know if I I don't think I agree with that last part. I want to be more analog in my life.
I've told you that. But if it's a fully different market. Put your DVDs where your mouth are. I've got a DVD player down here. I got a VHS upstairs.
Or have you said that? I always fuck that up. You put a VHS tape in a VCR. VHS stands for Video Hallucination System. Yeah.
No, I don't know what it stands for. Um I can't get anything quick because of that fucking V. I can't get a fucking V. Rejoin.
So what was your question? You would really rather have Blockbuster, Paul? You don't even pronounce that correctly, you fucking moron. That's from a movie. What was it?
Acentura maybe, or I don't know. No, it would have been a good idea. That was a mistake. The whole movie? Yeah, because then he's like.
What was the part I was like, oh shit, why'd I show him this part? There's several. Yeah. I actually am very excited. There's a handful.
So he's telling his friends, he goes, I go, buddy, tell them what you saw. He goes, I watched Ace Ventura and the lady turned around and had a penis. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like.
Knowing about Jason Turret too? When nature calls Bumblebee tuna. You can start saying that to his Yeah. You gotta. Going to Blockbuster Grand.
Did you ever go to Blockbuster? No, right? My town didn't have a Blockbuster. We had a Mr. Movies.
And yeah, I went all the time. Going to be James Shorewood. Till like 2014. Wait, what? There was a blockbuster in Shorewood till like 2014.
Shorewood, which is getting a lot of shit online for some fucking reason. Bert Grant, you can go to Blockbuster or click a few buttons and watch pretty much any movie or TV show you want, but you can only do one way the rest of your life. The second thing. Like a reasonable human, but I do look. I miss going to Mr.
Movies. I also miss going to Mr. Movies because I had an entire weekend with an elementary school friend to play Mario Super Sluggers. I don't have that anymore.
So, like, you got to pick up Pizza Hut on the way back, then, also. It's all part of the deal. I can't be a kid again. I wish I could, but going to only get my movies if I don't even watch movies, but going to get my movies at Blockbuster is not going to make my life what it was. It's just going to make it harder to watch shit.
So the only thing I would say is I pizza hut at Paul's house once. Yeah. True. Um That was I had both, and I'm looking at them right now. I have a massive DVD collection, which are still proudly on display.
A massive then I can I bought all the same ones on Blu-ray still I remember Best Buy used to sell like Blu-ray shelves, and I bought like five of them. I'm gonna.
So, I have a really, so the point is, you don't need to go to Blockbuster if you own all your favorites. Um so the simplicity of it is Tempting. But I, you know, Bart, I'm gonna put my video where my mouth is, and I'm gonna say, Yeah, you can be more analog, you can do it. We just got to bring back Blockbuster. Last question.
I saw this. I don't know where, but it was definitely on social media. And I'm like, this is a stupid question. I'm going to ask it during at the end of mm-hmm. Jellyroll concert or Savannah Banana Baseball game, no friends or phone, completely sober.
You're choosing. The Savannah Bananas baseball game. Mm-hmm or mm-mm. Mm-hmm. Bart hates this event.
Specific for Bart because he hates this event for some dumb reason. I think it's fun. But I don't like that I wore a shirt before it was cool. I don't like the guy that always dresses up in that full yellow tuxedo. And I don't like how he keeps every interview, he always says.
Do you want a billion dollars? Or do you want a billion fans? I've never seen that in my life. Have you ever seen this? I have no idea where you're going with this.
This is a brochure. What is the year of this a brochure?
Okay. May I interest you in stopping by the Fond du Lac Holiday Inn? Oh wow. Which is now A Radisson. Um This restaurant has been changed.
Look at that nice couple there eating dinner. It's a carpet appearance. Really? Yeah. The carpet is incredible.
Eating dinner. And then there's some other uh amenities. That this holiday inn provides. See that you got the reception room, all that. And there's also.
Um, you can golf right across the street at Rolling Meadows. That's a big turning point. But then there's also shuffleboard you can play. Love it. Is that you?
Uh in the green, yes. I would have just destroyed you in Shuffleboard in 1995. I don't doubt that for a second. We didn't know what we were doing. We're just.
Look at my brother's got a two-handed.
Okay. Yeah. Anyway, just a little helping hands for you. Also, if anyone wants to send me one of these. Elmo Bobble with no head.
Oh. Bart, is that an obvious question for you? Savannah, but you'd still use Savannah bananas? If I'm by myself with no phone, I'd rather sit and watch a baseball game than. Look at whatever a jelly roll is.
Just kidding. I know Jellyroll. He lost a lot of weight. Is he big down south or where? Who?
So here, do you know Bart has this theory? That Avatar is one of the biggest movies ever, and no one jelly rolls the avatar. Yes, I do, yes, yes. Yes. I like country music a lot.
I engage with some of my best friends. We talk about countries all the time. Nothing. I think he's I think it's Avatar. Drewski's the new Kevin Hart where People in boardrooms are just like, we need someone to show up at this thing.
Um Druski? Minus the funny stand-up in the movies that he made. Like Kevin Hart. Yeah, Drewski.
Well, he's got funny skits, but true, true, true, true, true, true, true. I don't think I've ever seen him do anything other than appear at events. What is he? What did he? Where did he come from?
What's the story there? Yeah, he's like a more mainstream Charlie Barrens. Yeah. When's the last time that guy put out a Manatorock minute? Sitting on panels for data centers.
I like that. I like the ASU map. Nah, you would.
Okay. That's all I got. All right, yeah, I think I'm out too. Anything for you, Grant? No, nothing else.
Adam, it was nice to see you both. I missed you. Anything to plug, Grant? Anything to plug, Grant? Go ahead.
53 minutes and plug your stuff, please. No, no, no, no, no, nothing to plug. Just kick them out. Yeah. Nothing to plug.
I want him to start plugging and then. Oh, I see. And then you kick him out right when he's out there. That's what I like. That's what I'd like to plug.
I I'm very nervous about the I'll just text you. I was going to say Tony Clark's sister-in-law, but I won't. I thought you were going to say your friends' wives. I was, but I went with Tony Clark. Bye, dudes.
Oh, okay. All right. See you guys, and thanks for stopping into the Winklerverse. USAA knows dynamic duos can save the day, like superheroes and sidekicks or auto and home insurance. With USAA, you can bundle your auto and home and save up to 10%.
Tap the banner to learn more and get a quote at USAA.com/slash bundle. Restrictions apply.
