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Week 18 is almost complete. We are all going to root for Aaron Rodgers tonight because We love Aaron Rodgers. And uh why not? Why the hell not? It's Derrick Henry's birthday, though, and he's done well the two times on his birthday.
Don't think I'm not going to lose my ass on DraftKings with that stat. Shout out to somebody on one of my reels commented. Why are you always doing these half in the bag? Um I will say to you uh what I what I said to him. I have done plenty of these half in the bag.
That was in the early start of the podcast era. No more. No more. I'm fully in the bag now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We do not drink. Prior or anything. We don't do anything prior to the show. If I can't have that much structure, like the days that I would work at 9 p.m., obviously, I'm not having a beer with lunch. I'm not having a glass of wine with dinner.
I got to work later.
Okay.
So I'm not doing any of that nonsense. Um, tonight, some happy place hemp, of course.
Okay, of course, we'll get into the gummies. or the Seltzers. Gotta have one and then maybe lay down. I don't want to be hungry. Winter break was bad for me.
Um we might be back up to 200.
So So Not half in the bag. Not any in the bag, not a not an eighth in the bag. What you're looking at is 41 years of beggary. Under my eyes. All right.
And I just wanted to make a note because If you if you like scroll up and down these thumbnails. My face looks different week to week. And right now we're back at Squirrel Cheeks.
Okay, this is all stalling, and I've done the thing that you're not supposed to do, which is lose the audience right away. But God forbid, can we talk about something else prior to that Packer game that we witnessed earlier today, which I'll talk about because I did not witness it very much. Because why would you watch that game? You had absolutely no reason to watch that game. I had it on my laptop with the red zone on my main screen.
So I knew what the score was. I knew how bad they were doing. In essence, I suppose I was watching that game, but I did not watch the game, I viewed the game. I saw the game. I looked at the game.
I did not I did not watch. The game. All right. But we will get into the game momentarily. The title of this episode.
Is Packers' disappointing regular season comes to an end? Can they flip a switch come playoff time? Can they flip a switch, come playoff time? I don't think they can. The team seems confident, so we'll see how they do.
They're going to go to Chicago, headline. They're going to go to Chicago. I hate it, but we'll talk about that. The first part. If I may address Packers' disappointing regular season comes to an end.
Um I think it was a disappointing regular season. And that doesn't mean that they're not going to win the Super Bowl. They're not going to win the Super Bowl. The Green Bay Packers are not going to win the Super Bowl. I feel pretty confident in that right now.
Does that mean I I'm a bad fan. Yes, apparently it fucking does. Does it mean they can't win the Super Bowl? Of course not. Of course, this team could win the Super Bowl.
I'm well aware that the Packers were the sixth seed when they last won the Super Bowl. which I don't think does the heavy lifting. That people who say that Think it does. I've been grinding and not even really grinding. I just.
Have said. I have noticed.
Okay, I have noticed That the Packers are not very good. And the Packers are constantly getting in. To this expanded playoffs, which expanded in 2020. They've expanded and they keep getting in as the seventh seed. That's merely all I said.
Uh before everybody Got mad at me. Tonight, As I'm watching the Bears and I'm watching the Eagles. And I'm watching this back and forth. Who are we going to play? Where is Green Bay going to go?
And I think for some people, that was exciting. But it shouldn't have been exciting. We we shouldn't have been in a spot Where we're talking, are we going to play the Bears? Or are we going to play the Eagles? What's the score?
That's not, this isn't 1993 anymore. And I think we're all a byproduct of the era we grow up in. But The Packers have been good most of my life.
Okay.
I remember learning about the Packers and that, oh, they suck and they stink and whatever. And then when I'm eight years old, Bread Favre. takes over and they're going to playoffs. You know, they're going to playoffs. They're winning games.
They're doing well. And then they win a Super Bowl. And then that expectation is there. Really, my entire life. And you're not going to win a Super Bowl every year.
You're not going to make the playoffs. every year. I'm aware of that. But I do think. That we have gotten to the point, and I don't understand why.
I don't understand if it was Seattle or LaFleur or Love coming in for Rodgers. But we have gotten to the point now Where the bar is lowered. From you guys. From fans. The bar has been lowered from fans.
And I'm saying this because when I title this, Packers' disappointing regular season comes to an end. Can they flip a switch come playoff time? That is inherently not a negative sentence. I don't believe so. Because I am not saying anything's over.
I'm recognizing that they're going to the playoffs, but I am saying they're going to need to flip a switch. They've lost four games now in a row. And this regular season was disappointing. You can't possibly think that it wasn't. And I feel like I'm going to put this out there, and I'll cut my little clips and do my little reels, and I'll get people who I check out their profile, and it's like one version of the same guy that hates me.
You could line up 10 of your friends, and I could just looking at them tell you which one probably hates me the most. And I would be right with 100% accuracy. They're all the same guy. Everyone that That hates me is all the same guy. And it's not that just they hate me.
This isn't, you know, it's that they hate that somebody could dare say the Packers' regular season was disappointing, but it was. It was, especially after the Parsons trade, especially after you're 2-0, and the defense looks like world beaters. And the goal posts kept being moved. I would complain and you'd say, well, they're top of the division. They're the one seed.
They're five and whatever. And now here they are at what even was the record? Nine, seven and one. Thank God for that terrible tie. Because the Vikings charged in, the Lions charged in.
Everyone in this division was at least 500. All right. So every everyone in this division. Was uh over five. Hundred.
So, yes, the Packers' regular season was disappointing. It's not even a question. That is An unbridled fact. I'll get a link up if anybody wants to join. If you are in live, probably take you up to.
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The Green Bay Packers are about to play the Chicago Bears. And I'll be forthright with you. I'll be honest with you, as I always am. I do not like this. I do not Did not, and there's nothing I can do about it now.
But I was rooting for the Eagles to win and the Bears to lose. I was certainly rooting for the Bears to lose after they were down 16-0 and then. You know, they came back, and it's just like, God, this season, this season, I know they lost today, but this season feels so magical for them. And there's been a lot of games like this, and this is like the one. They didn't win, but it didn't matter.
It doesn't matter because the Eagles lost.
So they are the two seed. What a year. Ben Johnson. I don't think Caleb got his 4,000 yards. He will at some point.
But Ben Johnson coming into the North, having a division title and being the number two seed, what a year for them. When you're the number two seed in this new format, you play the recently added, people forget, number seven seed. And that, once again, will be the Green Bay Packers.
So why did I want the Eagles Instead of the Bears. Because In this scenario. I am a bad fan. The title of this Video Packers disappointing. Regular season comes to an end.
Can they flip a switch? Come playoff time? Not a bad fan. Smart Rational No bullshit. can see the forest through the trees.
I'm not going to be you rah-rah if the time doesn't call for it. Season was bad. They did just enough to get in. In fact, Change a couple of these outcomes. You're NFC North champions today, but nobody cares about that because nobody demands it anymore because you're fine with the seven seed and just getting in because sixteen years ago we won as the worst seed.
That's still what we're drawing back on. 16 years ago. 16 years ago. Are you a virgin? No, I had sex once, sixteen years ago.
You're a virgin. That's where I'm taking this. I would have rather played the Bears than the Eagles.
Now, Let me be Or vice versa. But let me be rational guy first. In no way, shape, or form are the Packers going to go to Philadelphia and win. Nick Siriani has not lost a home game in the playoffs in Philadelphia. To my understanding.
The Eagles have rested everybody. They do not care two or three. Probably the same thing that happened last year would happen again where. You know, the Packers could have some opportunities, but it's just not going to. They got blown up on that first kickoff return.
That should have been a penalty, but that kind of stuff's not going to happen at Lincoln Financial.
So I say this even being pretty sure, 99. Eight. percent sure that the Packers would have gone to Philadelphia and lost next week.
So why don't I want to play the Bears? Because I just don't. I personally don't want to experience this again. And this is where I'm a bad fan because I'm putting myself. over the team at this point.
The Packers path to the playoffs or to a Super Bowl now. is easier in Chicago than it is in Philadelphia.
Now Bears fans may get mad about that. But it's true, and they know it's true. Even if it's like a 90% chance the Bears beat the Packers, if that's what. You want to say fine. But that's still whatever it is, even if it's 99.999999.
then it's 100. The Packers have a better chance. I think they're going to be favorites. I don't know if that matters really to me, but. Um the Packers path to a Super Bowl.
You'd rather go to Chicago. Seeing how they beat you last time, but all the different. You know, last time you played the Eagles, their defense. Had every answer for you, and the Bears needed a comeback and an on-side kick.
So, yeah, yeah, I think we can all agree that that's rational.
So, why don't I? Because I don't want to do it again. And I am still fatigued from Brewers' Cubs. And this, I'm not going to let this set the tone. Of this conversation because I tell the buddy, I'm not in the minority.
I am the minority, I'm the only one thinking this. I put so much into that Brewers' Cup series, I'm still not over it. I'm still not over it. Like it changed. A lot of how I act.
In public. It changed how I act at sports games. And it has to change how I act. Watching sports. I can't put that much into something because I'm never going to get that much out.
Because we won. The Brewers won. Against the cops. Was it worth it? It was worth it that the Cubs didn't win, but was it worth it that the Brewers won?
Then they just got their ass kicked by LA. The crowd, it sucked us out of the crowd. You know, there'll be Road Warriors here, and maybe it's apples to wrenches. I get it. I just personally have, I don't want to do it again.
And it's not just October, it's just years of this Chicago and Milwaukee and sister stations and doing hits back and forth and being on there and all this kind of stuff and the proximity and the closeness. And again, this is only me. And I'll take any criticism. I am weak. I can't handle it.
I'm telling you that right now. That I can't handle it.
Well, what if they win? What if they win? And the Bears had that great regular season moment, but then the Packers ruin it. I don't even, it won't be satisfying in the way that it will for you. I don't want it.
I would be fine if Wisconsin and Chicago never met up in anything again. I just don't want it. I didn't want it. I don't want it. From a football standpoint, it's better.
There's no way they were going to beat the Eagles.
So fine. I suck. I'm a loser. In that case, it's true. In me saying the Packers season was disappointing, not a loser.
And me saying LaFleur's job is really up on the hot seat here, especially with the lame duck, not a loser.
Well, I don't want to play Chicago and get my feelings hurt either way. Loser! I'm a loser. I'm telling you this. I know it.
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About the landscape in the NFL. We're going to almost do it from a. Hashtag national perspective. As I'll be talking some NFL week 18. With Carlos Ortiz.
NFL week 18, by the way. Absolute dog shit. And you want another one of these weeks? The most telling sign. Is fantasy football ends?
Week 17, because we all know week 18 is terrible, and nobody cares. Nobody puts up a stink about it. We just accept, oh, yeah, well, it's got to be over. No leagues are like, well, we're going to play week 18. No, everyone just knows week 18 sucks.
Week 18 sucks. Even like the games that did matter. Bears and Eagles fighting for the two and the three. Were they, though? Were they fighting for it?
It was just kind of be like, whatever happens here happens. That's the approach you should probably take. But the teams are taking that approach. Chargers don't seem to care what seed they're going to be. Texans got a defensive touchdown lay.
Yeah, nobody seems to care. Oh, before I get into the comments, why don't I talk about this quick? The Packers played today and they lost 16-3. And it was maybe the worst Packer game you've ever seen in your entire life. Maybe it just was.
Kudos to Matt LaFleur for making sure we did not get shut out. Kudos to Matt LaFleur, who also ruined a lot of people's thirteen and a half line. Um On the uh On the, you know, spread. I'm just getting. The group chat message from what trip are we going to take?
next year. Oh, why don't I tell you that too? Why don't I tell you that? The Packers' opponents. For 2016.
Have been named.
So we already knew. What divisions we were going to play, but now, based on our record, we are playing the NFC East. At home. whoever has the same Record as us or in the standing.
So we finished second.
So we play the Cowboys. At home. All right, and then we also have the AFC South. And that will be the Buccaneers. And that seems to be or no, we're I don't know.
I gotta look that up. No, we played it. Just Tim, we play the NFC South. We're adding the Rams. I'll just look this up later.
Now I'm all confused. Colin, don't send me this shit. He was to the group. All right. Billy says: bring back half in the bag.
Tom says, Bears go two and four in the division and still win it. Josh says, sound like regardless of the outcome next week, Packers are running it back, piss. And that may be I would think, Joshua, you're talking about Gouda Kenst and LaFleur. And all that kind of stuff. I do think the conversation.
should not be shit on. Because they are entering lame duck status. And whether Ed Polise said something about it or not. They're not going in with lame duck coach and GM. They are not doing it.
Because then every week it's going to be magnified to the cost of music. They're not doing it. But while that conversation is apt to have, It also does seem like The um like the winds of change. Are not swirling. Maybe as hard as you would expect them.
To swirl. It doesn't seem like while that is a good conversation to have. Uh it does not seem Like this is something that's going to I mean, unless the Bears just boat race them, but I don't even know. Although I would argue that. you know, a la Mike McCarthy in Seattle.
If they get boat raced, it's one thing, but if they lose the way they lost a couple weeks ago, How is Matt LaFleur going to recover from this? That's the thing.
So let's not have that conversation right now. Let's see what happens. And then we'll have a lot more information. Because I do think one of the things that people That prevents people from wanting to have the conversation about Matt LaFleur's future is that means they think that you're saying, look, why I'm being so overly cautious is this fan base is way too sensitive. You've gotten way too sensitive.
You can't, somebody has expectations around here. You get mad at them. I've just been I'm just fatigu I'm fatigued. I'm fatigued. You know, if I'm going to be doing the local podcast more, I got to remember what it's like to deal with fans locally.
And I got to remember Mino Likey so much. Can you see this scar right here? I think I might even have two. I think this light does a good job. on the Dan Shaney YouTube stream.
That's where I had glass here. I think here. And maybe over here. I got in a car accident. When I was in sixth grade and glass hit my eye, And a lady ran up to me and said, Oh.
Oh my God, there's glass in his eyeball. I I couldn't feel anything and I thought, okay, I'm blind. at least in one eye. And then here I come realizing that I have 20-10 vision all this time.
So good. Thank you, Lord, for not taking away my. Superpower. The Packers opponents next year away, Bears, Lions, Vikings. Saints, Buccaneers.
Jets, Patriots, and then we add an NFC West team that finished second, which would be the LA Rams.
So the Rams were the opponent we did not know. The home teams will be Bears, Lions, Vikings, Falcons, Panthers, Bills, Dolphins. And then we'll be home NFC East 2 and AFC South Two.
So the Cowboys will be home. And then we'll also get the Texans. At home. So we got a second place. Uh schedule.
So, you know, it is. what it is. the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Well, we play the whole NFC South. That's a division that had nobody over one hundred. That's going to be something a lot of people complain about over these next couple of days. And I still think you have to protect divisions. I get it.
Eight, nine hosting a game. It seems gross. And it is. but it doesn't happen enough. where I think we need to make change.
And I think you should still respect the division Over trying to help. You know, a third-place team in the NFC West. or or whatever it shakes out to be. to feel like they got Screwed. Matt's been coming in and out.
Do we? I just tried to go for him. Matty from last week, he's tried to come in and out. Like four times. And I thought I just had them there.
but did not. did not have him. Um Alright, the the game itself. Which is what I wanted to get into. 16 to three, the Packers lost.
McCarthy was in for a little bit. Out of the game, was hurt. A lot of conversations are going to be had about that. I talk with Matthew Collar. If you missed that one, that's on the podcast and on the YouTube stream.
Really good Vikings future conversation. and comparing it to our conversation. Because I do think that J.J. McCarthy is being treated in a way from their fans, maybe media, that Jordan Love is, where it's hyper, microscope. Every like, let's look at the overall product.
You know, let's grade the paper you turn in. Not the scribbles you've thrown out. But it seems like we do do that. With that. All right, so 16 to three.
You know, Justin Jefferson.
Okay.
For the Packers, Clayton Toon, six of 11, 34 yards, sack four times, minus seven yards, net passing. Great. Um we had 128 yards rushing. All right. Jacoby Keeney James led the Packers in receiving two for fifteen.
There were six catches. Which would make sense. Apparently, Twitter liked Baron Sorrell's game, he had a sack. All right, so this game was worth playing. And then we got our first look at Trevon Diggs, who did a lot better.
In Green Bay than he has in Dallas at all this season.
So that could be some hope. Coming in to next week. We also got to, if you're a Packer Bears consumer, you got to monitor what's going on with Gardner Johnson. I think he got hurt late. I haven't seen.
I'm going to assume he's okay. I haven't seen. But there could be that. Uh there. Will be the game next week.
This game today, again, I had it on the laptop, was watching TV. It was, it was, it was, this is worse than a preseason game. At least in the preseason, there's people that you can like, hey, could this guy be a guy? These guys that could maybe be a guy, you're going to see them sign a future reserve contracts the day after the Packers get bounced. You're not going to be like, oh, he could contribute in a couple of weeks.
Or if the guy gets hurt, you're never going to think of these guys again.
So I just, you know, I'm sure that people like you watching a Packer game, you never want to take that away from you. But anybody who's actually upset about the loss. I would suggest that you wait and be upset about our next loss. All right, let's try Maddie. You there, Maddie?
Where did this background come from? Oh, I switched locations from the garage to. I meant mine. Why do I have trick-or-treat? Yeah.
That's great question. How's my internet this time? Is it still shit? Uh, it's poop, but I don't think it's shit. God dang it.
I got DirecTV, so it's not good.
Well, I g I got your voice. You might your your face might freeze a time or two, but I think we got enough juice to get your thoughts.
Well I completely agree with you on the Bears. I did not want to see them because I live in the Chicagoland area.
So I know exactly what you mean on media, friends, all that garbage. Just having to Just invest so much energy. End of that and listening to it all. And doesn't matter. Like, if we win, it's like two hours of great, and then it's.
Whatever. But if we lose, it's You know, it's the week in it before it, and then it's the multiple weeks after it.
So I'm right with you there, Bart. I would have much rather seen. If the Packers lose in the playoffs to the Bears. It also Amplifies that other game. That we just lost to them a few weeks ago.
And I'm not keen on playing them. Three times in six weeks. I just don't want to. Whatever happens is going to happen, and we've got no say over that. I just.
I just would rather not experience it, but this is the ailes of being a sports fan. I mean, I was the same way with you and the Brewers and the Cubs. Like, that took everything out of me. That was the Brewers, in a way, World Series, because you and I both know the Brewers. Will not.
Probably win a world series, but that was that was my world series as a brewers fan. Same, absolutely. Goddamn right. Same way. Like, I was right there with you.
Like, I couldn't. Couldn't agree more on that. On the aspects of a disappointing regular season, yeah, there of course there's context to it a little bit, but Yeah, it was disappointing. I would rather not do two years in a row of losing four straight or five straight, or whatever the hell it is. Um You see all these other teams with great defenses and doing all this, these great jobs of somehow pulling out wins, and the Packers just can't do it for some reason.
So. I'm right there with you.
So it it's disappointing and frustrating. And I, uh, you know, as living in the Chicagoland area, I got a lot of Bears fans and I told them. I said, you guys just wait.
Now, you guys are getting good, and now that comes expectations, which equals even worse heartbreak, which what us Packers fans and Wisconsin fans in general. Uh Deal with all the time when it comes to expectations.
So I. Yeah, that's where I kind of feel, especially with Chicago fans. They're like, oh, we've been in such pain for so long. And I was like, you guys don't even know pain, you didn't have expectations.
So that's what I always say. See, and I think that that is the kind of. discussion and conversation that Whatever you're feeling is usually going to win out. Like, we as Packer fans. The playoffs are not something we really look forward to anymore.
Because even if you're super optimistic, you know what's probably coming is heartbreak in some way. like just messed up fashion kind of way. But then there's other fan bases that look at you and be like, oh, we would kill to be in the playoffs. And at one point, we would have killed to be in the playoffs. I would love to know what it's like to be in the playoffs and have that chance for many, many years in a row.
And if you look at like a team like the Lions, yeah, they thought they wanted to be the Packers.
Well, what's happened? They blew an NFC championship game. Then the next year, they're the number one seed and they blow that. Then the next year, they don't make the playoffs and still have a winning record. That's as Packers as it gets.
So are Lions fans enjoying that more? Or are they enjoying any three-year stretch where they were really, really shitty? I think that obviously there's more joy in parts. And if you're a Giants fan, you're like, oh, we blew the number one seed again. Or if you're a fan of these other teams, the Jets, what's even the point?
But they're all bad. They're all bad. But it's just stacked like Stack success in the regular season when it lea when it When it leads to, even if they won like Maddie a Super Bowl in 2018 or any other year. It wouldn't be as bad, but they haven't. And I don't think people are understanding how long 16 years is.
I mean, it's a long time with all this success during Those 16 years. No, I'm gray as hell now compared to what I was in 2010.
So, yeah, I. I get it. No, and honestly, like. And Bart, I hate when people are calling you a bad fan when you're a realist. And on that point, thank you.
And yeah, no, I get it because I do remember one time. in your in your past radio uh shows That you were on the Bucs in that championship season. You're like, look, there's no way these guys are gonna lose. This many games in a row. They're down 2-0.
Have faith. Keep going. Keep your head up. Let's go. Come on.
Like, I have a feeling with these bucks. All right. Because you saw kind of. I guess the make of the team, in a way, I don't know if it was just your. It was being just A blind fan or faith or whatever at that point, but you know, you are a realist on each side in a way when you kind of see.
Um a make of a team. You see the make of these Packers this year. Parsons left or got hurt. That went to shit really quick. The you know Denver went to hell and then, you know.
The Bears, they fought valiantly, but same thing happened again, same Packer thing happened again.
So. I would not call you a bad fan. I would call you a realist. And that's the way I am. That's why.
From now on, at least Basically, ever since I had kids. Um I'm very, very much level-headed in regards to losses and wins, and fully expecting the worst. That's just the way I am. If they win, fantastic. I'm going to be on that bandwagon no matter what.
If they lose, I'm not going to be hurt too bad because I've been hurt so many damn times before. It used to feel like. There'd be joy when you won, but pain when you lost. But at least it was on equal level.
Now I feel like the pain has been it's sucked out all the joy.
So if you lose, it's one emotion. And if you win, it's a very, very faint Like last breath sigh of relief. Yeah. That's why I said, like, you know, when the Brewers and Cubs won, when the Brewers won, it was two hours of great. And then after that, I was like, okay, great, okay.
I can just take a deep breath.
So, no, I agree with you fully on there, but. Maddie, good to talk to you. Hopefully, I see you next week. Hopefully, it's a win. Yeah, we'll see how it goes, bud.
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Jason, okay, says going to get slaughtered in the playoffs. Peace out. Uh yeah, maybe.
Well, we'll see. I don't know. I'm not, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. Are they going to win? Are they going to lose? Jake says, I hate Chicago. That's all.
That's what sucks. I love Chicago. And then I was telling my brother-in-law, and they are front because he showed up with the Caleb Williams jersey at Christmas, which he reminded me he also did last year, and he is right. But like I told him, I'm like, this is what sucks. Growing up in Chicago, it would have been like the coolest thing ever in the 80s, where every sitcom's there and every movie's filmed there, and it's all like doo doo doo doo, the jazz, you know, the downtown.
It's like, oh, you got Jordan and going to Wrigley, like, yeah, Chicago's cool. But I'm not from there and I hate them. I hope the game is on Saturday.
So we can be done with this season. My guess would still be Sunday middle of the day. I think they'll come out with those later. I think they could come out with them now, but they'll just kind of hook you up for the Sunday night broadcast as if we need to tune in to. This Jake says, ready for the weirdest season ever to end.
Detroit plus 68. For the year, finished last. Jets' first team to not throw a pick in eight decades. Chicago bottom five defense led the league. in turnovers Matt LaFleur has made everyone complacent.
Fans, players, media, everyone. That is from Q. And Winning Gambler says La Fluckface five and out. Ben joins the program. Ben, hey, buddy.
Good evening, Bart. How are you? Good, how are you? Good. Do you think Clayton tunes better than Jordan Love?
Did he see, did he show you enough today? I I saw I'll tell you why today sucked. Cause Even like in the past. There's like a dude hanging out on the third string. Where it's like, okay, Sean Clifford, let's see, or even like.
Ingle Martin's getting a start, or Craig Nall, or whatever. We we have no connection to Clayton Toon.
So it di it felt like at least It was like a Packer protege getting his moment to say, I started for the same team as Rogers and Favre. But Clayton tune. And I know he's been in camp before, but he just felt like the most random dude to be getting a start for the Packers. What do they do in the Super Bowl? You're going to say, who started for the Packers in week 18?
I'm going to forget. I'm going to forget by the end of this. Yeah. Anyway. What do you think about the Bears matchup?
I think we're going to win. I do think we're going to win. But even if we lose, we still are going to have Matt LaFleur. I I don't see an outcome where we walk away from this without Matt LaFleur.
Okay.
Do you think that um Daniel Whelan will be ready to go next week. He punted eight times today for a Packers record. Get him in the ice bath. 400 and What did he fund for? He funded for 431 yards.
I saw, yeah, he had like an average of like 52 yards a punt. That's great. That's great. Probably gonna save Rick Versace's j uh job. Maybe that's what I'll do tomorrow.
Maybe I'll take a football. And I'll go on some big patch of grass. And I'll see how many kicks it would take me. To punt 431 yards. Yeah.
You're gonna pull a hammy. I'm pulling a hammy thinking about it. Because I was a goalie in high school in soccer, but One of the big problems that I had was I had no leg strength.
So, my punts were very weak. I could throw it further than I could kick. And on goal kicks, I had to have somebody take it for me, which is like the cardinal sin of being a goalie. Yeah, I don't know soccer well enough what a Cardinal Cinema would be, but hey, when you're a goalie and you have to be like, You know, you play these like games with you're like, hey, can you kick it for me? And the guy's like, are you kidding me?
The worst. Yeah. I suck. What?
Well, this is your time to shine. What else do you think?
Well, those were the two big ones where Clayton Toon is really bad. Negative yards passing. I thought Matt LaFleur would pull together.
Something like I wanted to see something. And I saw nothing. I guess it's one week of prep time, so what are you going to do? Um As long as we have Malik Willis in the playoffs as a backup and not Clayton Toon. I'm fine.
But we're going to win the game against the Bears, and we're stuck with Matt LaFleur. I thought, you know, it'd be kind of cool to get Signetti as the Packers coach, but he's not leaving, and he's never leaving. What's a cooler job? Being a Packers head coach or Indiana. I don't know.
Well, for him. For him, he'd never leave because The question's different for him than any other colour. He made Indiana, Indiana. Right. He can do whatever he wants.
Very good point. And that's why I listen to you, Bart. You've got the. The grand picture, much better than most, I would say, if not all.
So Thank you for that. I don't know. I don't have a lot other than. I hope the Packers win. And um I saw Matt or Hottech Jake Had a post about all the road teams gonna win.
I think that's a good take for the playoffs as well. Did they they didn't come out with any schedule yet, right? I haven't looked. I just looked at the standings. Yeah.
Um I don't have anything.
Alright, Bart. I'm out then. All right, my man. Peace. That's Ben.
Ben joining us. Uh Slim Lewis guitar. I'm psyched about the Badgers getting Colton Joseph. There's some positive news this week. Not optimistic about the LaFleur Packers.
Great show. Thank you, Slim Lewis. supporting the cause here, this little operation. That we got going. Um Whisko guy, most boring fucking Packer game I've ever tried to watch.
I checked halfway through the third quarter, which I never do. Uh yeah, I had a guy Where is he? He shouted me out. He was on the bus trip that we did. A few years ago, Mark.
He's on the bus trip. It was a, it was for a. company that Helped us out with it, Windows Select. But it was a preseason game. And that pre, like, this, this is worse than a preseason game.
There's no reason many of these games should have existed today. And yet they did. And I sat on my couch and I watched them all. I watched every minute. Every minute.
Going back to work will suck. As a night truck driver after a two-week break and a suck more. No Bart Winkler and Carlos Ortiz. We'll have a pod, we'll get a pod out there. We'll give you an hour if you check back here.
You'll have a pod, but Only gonna be about an hour for ya. But yeah, I'm bummed. I had this winter break, and tomorrow I think it's going to feel finally real because I'll be at home at 8:30 at night. I also do need, like, I'm going to miss my kid a lot. We've had a lot of nice winter bonding time, but I need to know when school is because I need structure in my life.
Jake, I need to get back on the Intermittent fasting. I need to get back on the I gained the unemployed 15, and I've really only been unemployed for three days. It's not a good time for all of that to happen to you with the holidays and everything. Like, it's, you know. Capitalism has already ruined the holidays and now You know, we've got depression, you know, that going along with it, too.
So don't worry, you can bounce back. New year, new Bart. Same bart though. Same technically, but. You know, I thought of you the other day because I saw that hat.
I saw that hat in the airport. Then I got I thought that's not as terrible as a hat as I have once thought. I'm telling you, like that loser on the Cheesehead TV says, you got to carry the G, right? The guy with the gloves? I can't stand that guy.
Get a fucking haircut. What are your thoughts on any of this? Um, I'm a little disappointed in our fan base when i say our i mean our green bay packers um I have, you know, a a group Thread or messaging thread on Facebook with one friend who's just like Borderline depressed. Like, I'm worried about the guy where he's like, God, the Bears are just going to kick the shit out of us next week. And, like, I don't, we shouldn't even show up.
This is going to be so embarrassing. And I'm like, the Bears are not good. What is everybody afraid of with this team? They, I mean, almost every statistical thing shows them as frauds. They're going to get exposed, and it's hopefully us.
Like, that is fun. Yeah, and here's the thing with me again and the Bears is Ben wants to know if you're in the bathtub, shower curtain Jake. These are curtains, okay? These are regular ass curtains, see? There's the Windows There's the the snowy yard.
All that. That's not like fake curtains. You're not in a bunker somewhere down below.
Well, I mean in August we're going to lose gravity for seven seconds, so I'm ready. What?
You haven't heard that conspiracy? Like all these billionaires are building bunkers and everything, and like the ballroom in the White House is actually a cover for a bunker that they built underneath because supposedly something's going to happen with the polarity of the Earth, and we're going to lose gravity for seven seconds. And they're saying, 80 million people could die within seven seconds. It's like something crazy is gonna happen. One of the new concerns.
Are we gonna know when the seven seconds is? Um, I think they just said they think they're sometime in August this year, so.
So, if I just in my house, I would just go up to my roof, right? I don't know how that works. I hope it works. Houses aren't just going to fly into the sky, like fucking up. Make the Winkler tailgate sometime in August, and we'll play the lottery.
Like, if I'm going to go, that'd be a great way to go. Billionaires are definitely building bunkers for something. Yeah, I mean, if I was a billionaire, I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. That's happening. Like, um, if you get upset about something or like, you know, sometimes you're just getting your own feelings and you want to be away.
So, like, maybe you go into your basement or something. Like, if I was a billionaire, I would really take it to the extreme and build a bunker just to get the fuck away from people, to really get away from them, you know? All right. Well, besides that, Tim, what about your Packers? You think the fan base is a bunch of bitches?
Yeah, I mean guys They're so scared of losing to Chicago. And like, I get it. Chicago's been terrible for so long.
So that would be kind of embarrassing. But I mean, all of this stuff is entertainment, right? It's supposed to be fun. This is, it's a rivalry game. Have fun with it.
If you're not entertained by all this, why are you watching sports? Why are you into this stuff? Like, Do we want it to just be bland? Like. I don't get it.
I just don't get it.
Well, I'll tell you that. I'll tell you what I said when I was on my couch. Um Ben. We are literally going into the Winklerverse. In August.
Love it too. He wants to do the tailgate. Yeah, we'll time up. We'll do a tailgate. With the gravity.
And then we'll all fall, we'll all go way up, and then we'll all splat after seven seconds all over Schlesinger's parking lot. For sure. Because we're all going to go up, right? But then after seven seconds, we're all going to come flying back down. Yeah.
You know what I think? What's probably going to happen is the brewers will have their best season ever, right? They'll trade for a scuba or like kettle marte. And we'll be just like in first place by 20 games, and we'll have three A. Back, back, back, back.
And that ball, the ball's, it's not coming down. And oh my God, I'm in the air too. And oh my God, all these fans are in the sky. And then. That'll be our luck, I mean it'll be like the Bucks when they got coveted.
Seven seconds of loss of gravity. What mid-2010s ABC drama is this? I'm telling you, look it up. I love Fast Forward Abrams. Revolution.
I love a good or a bad conspiracy theory.
Okay, let me tell you this though. It's not... Because I said this on my couch. I said, I just don't want to play the Bears again. I just don't want to go through it, win or lose.
I just don't want to go through the next five days. I don't want to go through the five days. I just don't want to do it. I don't enjoy it. And I said, I think I've gotten to the point where like...
I don't I don't want to say I don't enjoy sports. Because I watch sports all day. Sure. I don't think I enjoy my teams anymore. They do seem to like they love to rip our hearts out, don't they?
They our our teams for the most part are given. I even watched some of the Badgers last night. I was like, oh, the Badgers play in Purdue. It's only an eight-point game. And they lost by 30.
You know, I'm glad you brought that up because it was another thing going on in my sports friends group chat. It's like They were talking about Boosters and donors, like the way we used to talk about recruiting for the Badgers and, like, who could they get to? And now it's like, well, who can we get to donate money? And it's like, I'm just so out on college sports, it's it's ruined it. It's horrendous.
Yeah. But what I would recommend, Bart, is this week, stay off social media. And see someone, all right? And then just like watch the game because it's ultimate hedge betting. I know you're like me, you're not a big LaFleur guy.
To me, there's no losing because if you lose to Chicago and you lose five games in a row to lose the season, I think there's a really good chance LaFleur is gone. And if you do beat him. Oh my god, the trolling that you'll be able to do for the offseason. It's going to be fucking amazing. Yeah, you're going to get stomped the next week with whoever you play, but it doesn't matter.
The season ended when Micah went down. Just house money if you can beat this shitty team. Just don't turn it over and you're going to win. Don't turn the ball over. You will beat Chicago at home.
I am on record. I think Green Bay wins by double digits next week. I think a lot of people are going to say Green Bay is going to win. And I'm not saying that they can or that they won't. I just I want to know LaFlore Whip it out, put it on the table.
Give me the same game plan that you had against Dallas a couple years ago when you just embarrass them and shock and awe. Let Jordan Cook. And just rip their freaking hearts out, man. Who cares? What do you have to lose?
If I could swallow a pill. And it would knock me out, and I could wake up at a time of my choosing. I'd wake up the minute the game was over. I just want to know. This sounds like The saddest episode of Black Mirror ever.
And then I'd take another pill. And then I'd want to. Transport to when we're all in the sky with no gravity. Yeah. And then take my final pill to knock me out before I Yeah.
Splatted back down on the ground.
Well hey, speaking of, maybe not necessarily taking a pill, but you wouldn't happen to know if I wanted to feel like there was no gravity, if there was some sort of thing I could take, who could I go to to make me feel like there's no gravity? And Well, just off the top of my head, I know this place called Happy Place Hemp. They've got a great website, easy to navigate. All their products are on there. You can get stuff shipped right to you.
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Oh god. I'm pumped. If I still had my Rogers jersey, I would have worn it tonight. See you're pumped to watch Aaron Rodgers, but you're you're like terrified to watch the Packers.
Something's wrong with this picture, Bart. I'm telling ya. Yeah, it's the fifteen pounds I gained over the fucking week. Hey, real quick, Yannis, does he say or does he go? His heart's not into it, right?
Are the Bucks smart enough? to know that and that they need to get rid of him if that's the case. Or are they just gonna be like the pathetic boyfriend trying anything they can do to get their girl to stay. I don't think he's getting traded during the season.
So but here's an interesting tidbit. If he's traded before the deadline. the new team that acquires him can give him a supermax. If it's after the deadline, they cannot.
So, in my eyes, he's either gone at the deadline or he's signing a new deal with Milwaukee because I think he stands to lose close to $100 million if he doesn't get that super max.
So, this will get resolved soon. Knock on wood.
Well, 2026 is shaping up to be a real nice year. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, we'll be back here next week and we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens.
That's all we got. Me too. I am too, despite what the haters say. I want to thank you all once again for stopping into the Winklerverse. Enjoy Bucks and Kings tonight.
If that is at all possible, I will be. Watching Sunday Night Football, I put $25 on them to say schedule. At one point tonight, I would win, I think, 90. Because I think they're going to go over the week, the wild card schedule during the game.
So 888, I almost just did 888710 because I was. Because I hit a I had a natural We're gonna watch the devolvement of me. In real time. Last time I got laid off, it was okay. Look at Bard.
This you're going to watch me just erode as a person. But we're going to do it together. And we're going to do it a bunch of times this week. And I will be live after the Bucks. on Wednesday.
For now, as always, thanks for stopping into the Winklerverse.
