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I think this is the money shot. Yeah, this is the money shot. All right. Um. We'll have college picks, we'll have NFL picks as we do.
Again, occasionally. The college football playoffs start this weekend. And you know what? Let's just dive into it. First of all, I just want to say a giant fuck you to everybody that is.
Covering the college football playoffs. Yeah. When were we just going to get to? Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State are in. And then a separate SEC playoff for whatever team.
did best that year. Why does everyone that covers college football hate College football, all this talk of, oh, you should have a G6 bull.
Well, what are we doing here? Why, even though Tulane and James Madison are both going to get crushed, yeah. Um they deserve the opportunity to be crushed. No, I agree. Yeah, and you know what's funny about it, man, as a Notre Dame fan.
So it was more, I was in shock. It was like a gut punch because I thought that this year they had a legit shot to win it all. Because it's kind of like the NFL this year, where there's not a great team. And I think they were a much better team. The final eight weeks of the season than they were early on.
They figured out the defense. Their quarterback, CJ Carr, week one, they only lose to Miami on the road in Miami, 24-21 against one of the better defenses. They scored three times. He's a freshman, making his first roadstar. He got better.
He, I mean, he's probably their best quarterback they've had in years. I think he's going to be a decent pro, too. Um, but it's like at the end of the day, I wasn't all angry and I wasn't running to social, I was pissed because of the way that it went down, right? I said all season long when everybody's like, Notre Dame's a lock if they go 10 and two. I'm like, they shouldn't be.
Um, not because they need to join a conference, because if they were in the ACC, like Duke won the ACC championship, Notre Dame rolls everybody. They beat all the ACC teams, they beat the living crap out of Pitt, who was really good this year, except for Miami. That was their only loss in the ACC.
So, um, if they join a conference, they're going to win the ACC every other year or every year.
So, I have no issue with that. But you played two real opponents and USC. And you lost to both of them.
So I had no issue with 10 and 2 Notre Dame being left out. I had an issue with just the stupid ass committee and ESPN, though, because of the way that it went down, where. Alabama Beats a crappy Auburn team, and they're like, Alabama, we like the way that they looked against a rival.
Well, Auburn was no good. They won what, four or five games. And Notre Dame goes to Stanford across the country. And just beat the living crap out of Stanford, who was a much improved team as the season went on with Frank Reich, you know, and Andrew. Miami should be in over Notre Dame because they beat him.
Yes. Yes. Totally agree. They should both be in over Alabama. Yeah, I'm not even making the case.
And Alabama played a tough strength to schedule. I get it. But they look like crap. And also, you know what pisses me off a little bit, man? And you'll like this take because you were all about Florida State being screwed over just because Jordan Travis got hurt.
Now we're hearing like Alabama's quarterback, Ty Simpson, has a herniated disc. And he's looked like he's had a herniated disc since really the Oklahoma game, the first one.
So Yeah, you knew they were getting in and then I I was always a big Herb Street guy, man. And I still am. I'm the absolute worst human walking the planet right now. Yeah, yeah. The only guy I still would stand up for, he's just like kind of out.
I like Fowler, I feel like he doesn't really get into it. I feel like that's kind of why he walked away and just calls the games now and goes and does tennis the next day. Um, I was a big Joe Clinton, like, nobody. Has had a good take, you know, and everybody's like Josh Pate said, Josh Pate said. And shit.
And like, I like Josh too, but it's like all these guys.
Southern dudes with SEC bias. You know what we need to do? Let's bring the college football back to the Midwest, baby. Let's get Don, the college football show, the guy that hates us, the professor, because we get no love. And we, what does the Big Ten do when he got to match up with the SEC?
He doesn't hate us. Underberg. Oh, that guy does. Not Don. Yeah.
No, Don Don I just saw Don. Yeah. The other guy's not a fan. No, me either. I used to do the show with him.
I don't know. I was always nice. I don't know. You know, hey, happy holidays anyway, buddy. But you know what's funny is this SEC bias.
Are they going to win a bowl game against the Big Ten this year? You know what I mean? Like. Did Ohio State not just win the national title? Did Michigan not win the one prior to that?
We're the power now, baby. We're the power. But I hate it. What do you think about... Because Navy beats Army to become a 10-win team.
Which would be better on Notre Dame's resume, but they play that game after, which is so fucked up.
So dumb. I mean, Notre Dame, honestly, I'm not just saying this as a Notre Dame homer. I thought they had a legit shot to win it all. And this, if you're a Notre Dame fan, you know what I worry more about, man? is the repercussions because now no one wants to play them.
Nobody wants to play them. They're probably going to have to join a conference, which I don't care about, join a conference. But I worry more about Marcus Freeman leaving. Yeah. And I have no issue with them skipping the bowl.
And I hate all these guys. I'm glad they did. They were just gonna go dance for us. Go play BYU to see who deserves to be fuck you. In the Pop-Tart Bowl.
Exactly, man. Like, they would have beaten BYU. By 42 points, and they would have been on a mission to do so instead. Like, let's go recruit. Marcus will probably end up because If the NFL comes, Colin, I don't think he would leave for another college.
I don't, except for colleges that already have good coaches. But if the NFL comes calling, dude. I don't know, man. You know, Miami would be very enticing. Although, I think McDaniel should keep his job and get a real quarterback that could play 50.
I think that's why they mention him. Yeah. Yeah, but I promise Quinn Ewers ain't the guy.
So I don't that's what I worry about, man. But I'm with you. Like I still love college football. But it's not the same. And the people that run college football do not love college football.
And that's the problem. Even these like my brother texted me and he's like, hey, what do you like? Um for your bull bats. And I just gave them the college football ones I like. And I was like, I don't really, I wait till day of to bet the bowl games now.
Like, you know, as we tape this, Memphis is playing. And there's a game on. Yeah, it starts in 15 minutes. And I wanted that, you know what? I do kind of like Memphis plus three and a half, and I am 4-0, but I used to run out.
And try to bet these right away and like beat the number.
Now I wait and try to get as much information because you never know who's gonna be out there. Who wants to be there? Who's on Lover? I'll put 10 on Memphis. Yeah, why not?
You know, and then you win that, and we could double up on tonight's game because It scares me. But let's actually let's just let's just jump into it, dude. First of all, I want to tell you another $10 I put. I put uh Ten dollars on Jake Paul to beat Anthony Joshua. Yeah.
Because I think it's rigged. What's Jake Paul's betting odds? I should know this, but I got fired, so.
Okay. He's like a my he's like a plus six fifty. Oh really? Yeah, I'm in on it with ya. I mean, the shit's rigged.
The shit's rigged. He's going to win. I mean, get 10 like some pizza money, I think. Um. All right, what do you got to do?
Oh, so Oklahoma, Bama tonight, right? Uh It's this is wild because I bet big. One of my bigger bets this year was Oklahoma in that first matchup. And the case that I made was: Oklahoma's defense is the real deal. Ty Simpson, Bama's quarterback, is awesome if you give him a clean pocket, but when he's under pressure, he's He looks like he has really since that game.
And now teams have kind of figured out the blueprint, and he might be hurt, is just blitz the shit out of him. Georgia, I want to say, I don't have it in front of me. I want to say he dropped back like 37 or 38 times. I think they blitzed him on 32 of the drop backs, and he had like a 40.2 grade, had a bunch of interceptions, probably cost himself a lot of money because the conversation going into that game was: is he going to be the number one overall pick? Played terrible, may have played himself out of the draft.
He might be playing in Canada. Uh but Oklahoma's defense is legit, but If Bama could run the football, which they haven't been able to do all year, they're outside the top 100. I don't know, man. I just worry about Oklahoma scoring because Bama's defense is really good as well. They don't have a good pass rush, but other than that, I really like their secondary.
Mater hasn't thrown for over 200 yards since the hand injury. It's been three weeks since their last game, so maybe he goes out there and lights it up. But it's weird because I see like the most public bet. Is everybody loves Bama, but all the sharps. And everybody on the network and stuff, you know.
Loves Oklahoma, and I loved Oklahoma in the first matchup. But I feel like Ryan Grubb is going to have a couple tricks up his sleeve, and I like Kalen DeBoer. I just feel like everybody's going to be on Oklahoma. It's going to be the sharp bet, and Bama's going to win by 10.
So I'm going to go against my own number. I would make Oklahoma a two and a half point favorite, dude. But I'm going to go against everything and I'm just going to go with a feel. And I'm going to take Bama. And I kind of like the over in the game.
I feel like if Bama does win and cover. It's got to be an over game, but it's just like, I don't trust Oklahoma to score a whole lot. Their defense is awesome. I just, it's funny because four weeks ago, everybody said Bama best team in the country, Ty Simpson, Heisman.
Now everybody's like, this Bama team's not good.
Well, make up your effing minds, man. And I just, I think De Boer is going to have a couple tricks up his sleeve. Ryan Grubb, the OC, is. And everybody just expects the boar to be out and take the Michigan job and stuff. And I don't think that's the case.
So I'm betting Alabama I'm going to do it right now. I talk myself into it. And I like the over. What do you think about the game?
Well, I don't have that kind of knowledge that you just did.
So I have to go from storyline angle.
Okay. where I think Bama shouldn't be in the playoffs. Yeah. So they will win this football game. Yes, and that's the other thing, man.
Right.
So let's throw 10 right now on Alabama. Yeah. Denota Alabama. All right. I like that with you.
Okay. What do we got tomorrow? Miami and Texas. Yeah, Texas AM.
So the Malachi Tony kid, so the spread's three and a half. Miami's a dog. The total's 48. I actually like the under. I bet it at 48 and a half, but I still like it at 48.
If it touches like 47, I wouldn't bet it because I could see this game being 28, 20. But as dumb as that sounds, it's just how it goes.
So I would bet the under here because I like both defenses. I I just Miami could run the ball. They average over six yards per carry. Texas AM, as good as the defense is. One of the worst run defenses.
So they give up. Over six yards per carry, like I said, like four yards after contact. They struggle to tackle. I want to say Miami's like top 15 still rushing, running the football. If Carson Beck doesn't throw a bunch of picks, I think they score enough points.
I don't trust AM's quarterback, Marcel Reed, dude, when he's under pressure. Too many turnover-worthy throws and uh If I had the number one overall pick in the draft, I would take Ruben Bain from Miami. I think their pass rush is just going to be lethal in this game. I keep saying AM is going to be one and done, so I got to stick with it. The problem is, I like Elko a whole lot more than I like.
Mario Cristobal, but I'm going to bet Miami three and a half, and I love the under in this game. What about you? Horvat, I have no read on this at all, storyline or otherwise. I don't know enough. About it.
If you had to pick, though, you just like bull, you know, like just the bull sheets, Texas AM. SEC, all right, let's roll with them.
Well, they're at home. Yeah. I take the home team. I feel like everybody's gonna say that. I don't know, man.
Maybe Miami ends up being the popular team. I just. What a weird playoff that you can get a home like. Uh who did I read? Maybe old miss like They're expecting $70 million of an economic boom and then.
I don't know, this this whole playoffs fucking sucks. It's laughs. It's so dumb. Everything's dumb about it, and every idea is to make it dumber. I mean, I think you should have just honestly, I think it should be four teams, and I think it makes it like real easy.
Well, then it'd be Indiana, Ohio State. Who? Georgia, they lost the SEC game. They lost. But they avenged the loss to Bama and won the SEC championship, you know, so and they beat the shit out of him.
Oh yeah. Yeah, then they would be in. You know? And then Ab. A and M probably or well see that's where you have the cot see that's the thing.
I mean I don't know what you do. I mean, because you don't need more teams. I mean, because that's where I was going to go next. Who do you, if one of these two teams covers, would you rather take JMU, 20 and a half? Or two lanes, 17 and a half.
Like, I think both of them are gonna get destroyed. I think Tulane and Ole Miss is going to be like a 10-10 game in the middle of the second quarter, and then Ole Miss is going to dial it up. And I think Oregon is just gonna shit all over JMU. Like it might have to close down the school. Right, like I don't know how JMU scores.
That's people are like.
Well, you see what they did here is they had both quarterbacks on the field at the same time. And I'm like, yeah, against Bufu University, dude. Like they're going against Dan Lanning and a bunch of NFL players. Like good luck, man. I would say maybe two Lane because their coach Summerall does get to stay and I do like him.
I think that's a great hire. Wayne leaves. But we saw this game week four and Ole Miss won 45 to 10. Yeah, why are we seeing rematches? It's so stupid.
That's it. Then this is where fucking Notre Dame should be in the goddamn playoff or just, you know, insert team here that has a legit shot, at least, of not getting crapped on. It's like March Madness, you know, when everybody's like cheering for Florida golf. And I'm like, no, I don't want them in the Elite Eight because then they're going to play Carolina and lose by 90 and I'm going to be bored. And then we got to wait two hours.
And we like when the 13 wins. And then when they play each other, we're like, oh, shit. Boring. But uh you gotta get I'm pro these teams getting a chance. I wish.
Every conference winner in college was in the playoff.
Well, if you want to make bull games actually matter in these teams playing them again, though, like everybody, you can't have 12 teams to play off, you know? Because then team 13, 14, 15, 16. Bull games are stupid anyway. They've always been stupid. They're stupid.
But we love 'em. But they're dumb. Like Mike McCarthy, though, now that I'm unemployed, dude, I need bull games. I may not, I hope I don't always need bull games, but for the next two months sitting in this house. I need him right now.
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All right. It's funny, like, you know, all my stuff has been positive except for one. And it was like somebody created an account, and they were like, good. because we need less gambling content. And you know, I was like, I agree.
I actually didn't even want to do betting, I just wanted to be full-time. Host nationally. I like betting, but I don't need to like give. I like doing this kind of stuff because it's fun, but like, I'm with you. We don't need 20 hours of betting content.
Yeah, I hear you, brother. But then I thought about it and I was like, fuck you. It was a betting network. If you don't want betting content, it was pretty easy. You go to your station and you listen to you guys.
That's my issue. Like, I totally agree. There's too much gambling and everything that's going on. Really makes you think and wonder. All these scandals, but like I'm not the guy to blame, bro.
You know, just because I know what I'm talking about and I want to feed my family too.
So, you know what? Imaginary account. I'm trying not to swear a whole lot because it's the holiday season, but fuck you, man. I was like, what the hell was this all about? Every time you say you're not going to swear, you end up swearing more.
And how low of a person like. Are you to like tweet at people like when they lose their job? You know, that's why I always try to go easy on these NFL head coaches, unlike you, just calling for LaFleur's job. But the difference is he gets paid. Millions of dollars, millions of dollars.
Mm-hmm.
Well, and I'm an owner, so I have a say on who gets to coach my football team. Yeah. What was your takeaway? Because, well, actually, you could save it because let's just start with the fighting Tobys because Packers are going to be the second game we talk about anyway. I think the Eagles win big.
I actually like the Commanders to come up with. I hope the Commanders win. I'm so tired of the Eagles. They're so, I keep comparing them to me in college, where. I would watch the OC all the time.
and then pretend like my life was the OC. And I would want to be sad. I was happier when I was depressed. And I feel like that's what the Eagles are doing. They're just, they like being sad, and they're a bunch of.
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Well. I don't feel like I should say pussies. I swore the other night I said asshole. I don't even know what the rules are anymore because every time I turn on ESPN, McAfee's just like shit, shit, asshole.
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I'm going to take, what's the line? I'm going to take the Eagles. Seven. I'm going to take the commandos. I think, like, I think Mario is a, I think this is a Marcus Mariota revenge game.
Because you're the best. I I, you know what, man? I don't know that Jaden Daniels is everything that he was cracked up to be. I loved him in college. My only worry was.
Not even can he stay healthy. Can you get to his second read? I thought everybody was like so stupid with the bears get it wrong again. They may have got it wrong because they may have should have probably taken Drake May. And not overthink.
Nobody should have overthought it and taken the 6-4 quarterback with a rocket arm. But if I was picking between Jaded and Caleb, I like Caleb more.
Well, I like Caleb too. I don't understand how CJ Struggle came in the league, was very good, and then had a bit of a regression. And then everyone's like, see, that's why you can't jump on quarterback. And then they go, Jaden Daniels, top five in the league. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, but then Jordan Love.
I still need. See, he threw a pick. Bonehead. I still need to see something. Jordan Love's good.
What the fuck? I'm so tired of this bullshit. Yeah, and you know what? For us to admit that, that's brave. You know what?
I'm tired of it too. Like, we're like on social media. Like, I've said now for the last three years, Jordan Loves Good. I said he makes a lot of. Not a lot of, because this year he's thrown like five, six picks.
But just like some of the decisions, some of the throws, like his picks are bad, right? Like Rodgers, the picks were, he didn't throw picks. The Jordan Love picks are like picks that you saw at Utah State and in high school. But the fucking darts and the throws that he makes are unbelievable. And I also thought about this and I was like, well.
You know I get why the Jordan lovers would hate me because I always made excuses for Rogers.
Well, they got Devontae and a bunch of bums. He don't even got Devontae, man. Christian Watson, I like, but he's never healthy. Dobbs should be a three. Wicks, all these guys, like none of them could catch the goddamn ball, dude.
Yeah, last year we're like, we don't need a one because we have four twos, we actually have six threes. We got six UFL players. I honestly, like, I feel bad for Jordan Love. Never throws anybody under the bus. Really easy guy to root for.
I uh I'm a big fan of Jordan Love these days. I take back all the, I still hate the draft pick.
Okay, so you guys can shut up with that. If you have T. Higgins on the other side of Devontae Adams, Rodgers isn't forcing the ball to Devontae on three straight drop backs, and we win a Super Bowl because we would have beat the shit out of the Chiefs that year. Anyway, Um Bears, one and a half point favorites, total 46.5. I'm so glad they're favorites because all I heard from Chicago radio.
I don't understand. How the Bears are underdogs in this game. Do you not understand power rankings? Get a new job. Do you not understand that every year?
Every game except for last year when Jordan Love got hurt. We beat the shit out of you. The Bears cannot win this game. They're not going to. I don't think so either.
Dude. Here's how I hope that Dennis Allen, I know he's a big fan of the Winkler verse. I hope he's not listening, right? Because Bears are good. Bears are for real.
Everybody's like they're flukey. They're good. They know how to win. They're good, but we're going to beat them. And I think they're only going to continue to get better.
Yeah, but we're going to beat them, which is why the mic injury really blows. But here's why I think that the Packers win. Is because Dennis Allen and the Bears play nothing but man defense, 10th highest rate, I believe. When are these teams going to figure out? You don't blitz Jordan love.
And do not play man against Jordan Love. In the game, the first game against the Bears, he was 8-10. For like 138 yards, two touchdowns, no picks. A couple years ago, Dallas in that first playoff win. man jordan love tortures him every time detroit tries to point man What does he do even with these shitty wide receivers?
Tortures them. Chicago wins this game if Dennis Allen mixes up his coverage and tries to play some zone. I don't even know that the Bears have the pieces though on the defensive side of the ball.
So I think the Packers win this game. I like Green Bay. I'm going to bet them. I initially said, originally said, they're going to split home and home. Can't lose this game.
And everybody's going to bet against them because of the micah injury.
Somebody's got to show him. I don't think a team has won. After playing in Denver this year, yet. The following week. More of a reason to bet them.
Okay. Yeah, I like the patents about them, but. I like the Packers too. Specifically because of Bears fans. Felt like they got to win even though they lost by seven last time.
And the players said it was really weird. Like the Packers take pride in this too. And I really do think that this is going to be like. LaFleur's second best coaching jab of the year because I like Ben Johnson, but when you're mentioning Matt by name, first name.
Now he's got it out free. I don't think that that really like matters bulletin board material, but. You're going to get the Packers' best effort. I think the defense long term, I think they're fucked. People keep saying that I want Matt LaFleur fired.
I I s well, I I want him to be promoted. I want him to be GM and coach, actually. And team president. Yeah. Yeah, I do.
I I think I think he's I think he's great. Anything to keep him, to be honest, because I don't want Cliff Kingsbury or his brother. The other thing, though, I think that the Packers are fuck long-term because I think now. Even if Jordan Love has an Aaron Rodgers-like postseason, I think the Packers defense is the Packers defense that fucked Rodgers and all of us as fans every year because the one thing that we had was Micah. And I know that the dumb Chicago fans are like.
He only had one assistant. You like these voices I'm doing? He only had a manager. That's the right voice. He only had.
Yeah, he only had one assisted tackle in the last game. He's overrated.
Well, no, but he makes everybody else better. All these rejects, right? Like, except for Rashawn Gary, who I bet to win Defensive Player of the Year worst bet of my life. But, dude, now this secondary is going to be out on an island, and I hate all of them. I've never hated corners.
I have. I have gun, you know, when Lidaria's gunters, you're shut down. But now. Because, how are you going to beat the Rams when Matthew Stafford has a clean pocket? How are you going to beat the Seahawks if you can't?
Huh? Do you remember Lenny McGill? Yeah. He was terrible. These, the defenses historically for Green Bay are always terrible.
Everybody's like, man, they always hit receivers. Yes, man, the quarterback situation, three decades, Hall of Famers. Yeah, but three decades of piss-poor defenses minus a couple of years and they won the. Rodgers had a top 10 defense once. He won a Super Bowl.
So Miss me with the choke artist shit. Miss him. Miss Horvat with that. Miss him. How many, if Brady had bottom 10 defenses every year, how many Super Bowls?
And are we d are we ready to pump the brakes on the Mahomes goat shit too? Yeah, I d I don't think Brady's the goat. I think Rogers is the goat. Maybe. What if he?
This is going to be the year he wins it too. Watch. You know. Anyway, this is his Peyton Manning Devil here. Although, like, he's carrying them, dude.
That roster. 18 tight ends, one's 350 pounds. You got MVS out there. I like when Rogers loses. He's like.
I don't know what the hell. No one's coming to meetings. No one's everything, everything's, and then they win. He's like, man, I've just never had more fun as the greatest group of guys. Like, Jesus Christ, man.
Because I think pick a lane. Because I think he knows what he's doing by doing it. And I think it probably like rubs some of his teammates the wrong way. But I think some of them buy into it. And I think at this stage of his career, he's like, I got one last shot.
You guys are effing me. All right. I don't care that Mahomes isn't the goat or is the goat. I don't care that he's not playing in this game. I will not fall into this trap.
I will take the Chiefs, even though they're going to start Gardner Minshew and him and his dad will probably have like a fist fight and bleacher report. Everybody will tweet it out. I'm not taking the Titans suck. I have no idea if Cam Ward's any good. The Chiefs are.
When's the last time Gardner Minshew won a football game before COVID? I don't remember. Last time I bet him, I think he threw for 65 yards and like five picks and had two fist fights on the way out of the stadium. Are you lying on this? The Titans are only three.
Kansas City is a three-point road favorite. Everybody's betting the Titans. Not me. No Titans theory for me here. If the Chiefs have any pride.
I do say I don't know. It's still like Andy Reid. I can't bet the Titans. I'm not really betting this game. If I were to.
Wait till you hear my favorite bet this week, by the way.
Well, you know, you only have a month left and you're not going to move on after that. Don't you kind of phone it in a little bit just out of experience? I don't know though, man. Maybe, like, does Kelsey really want to go out like a bum? Um, guys still trying to earn paychecks out there.
I just, I'm saying I can't take the Titans here. They're terrible. They might be the worst football team I've ever watched. I'll take the Chiefs with you. Thank you.
I have bet the Titans. Last year, I have it in front of me. I bet the Titans 14 times. I went 1-13 against the spread. This year, I bet them.
Jesus, eight times out of 14 games. Yeah. 0 and 8. I bet the Bills last week when they were down 24 points. Dude, and you know what's the worst part?
I bet the Seahawks last night down 16. Uh I dude, I um The only time That I needed, and then the worst part about this Tennessee team, why they will always go down as the worst team in history to me. I take Arizona and Survivor. They have a three-score lead, and Tennessee comes back to win one of the two games they've won and knocks me out of fucking. But if that's influencing this decision, that's bad of you.
No, it's not. This team is, I'm, I'm telling you, man. Maybe, maybe they win outright. I just, I can't see it. I cannot see a world where it happened.
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Selection varies by location while supplies last. I can see a world where the Giants. who are only two and a half point dogs at home at two and twelve. to the Vikings I think the Giants are going to win this game outright. I love the Giants against the Vikings this weekend.
I don't know how they win it. I just know that like JJ McCarthy is going to be a roller coaster. This guy sucks. Oh, nine's back. I think JJ McCarthy sucks.
I hate the Vikings more than anything. Giants by 10. I'm going to keep taking the Giants to win. Because of my Dear friend Carlos Ortiz keeps telling me that the Giants will fuck their way out of the number one pick somehow. And I believe that.
So I'll take them to win every week the rest of the season, even if they don't win any of them. I will take the Giants outright with you. I wonder what they would do with the number one pick. They would trade it? Or take liking.
I don't know. You have to trade it. think they would have to.
Well, who's going one, Mendoza? Although Do you think that the new coaching staff will be sold on Jackson Dart? Because I'm not. I mean, he's going to. His head's going to be off in two years.
You think they're going to Josh Rose in him? Maybe. I don't think he's I don't think he's good. I have a knot in my back that like I need you to God, I wish you were here behind me. Yeah.
Pause. I uh I want to stand on that take. I don't think Jackson Dart's good. I had a great last drop last night. Greg from Michigan called.
Yeah. He's like. I'm gonna miss you. I want people to know about you. I want to spread you.
What? Spread you. You gotta like spread the word. But he just said on the radio, I want to spread you. I laugh so hard.
Maybe Anyway. Uh giants here. Giants, gents, G-Men. What about the Carolina Panthers catching three against Tampa? I like, oh, I like Tampa here.
I feel like everybody's gonna be like, Tampa's dead. They they came. This is for the playoffs, maybe. Both teams are seven and seven. I'm going to take.
Baker to get it right here. I still don't trust in Carolina. Yep. Love the box. Mike Evans is going to score.
Yeah. What's the spread? Three. I'll take Tampa with you. Yeah, I feel like everybody's going to overthink this one and Baker and Mike Evans are going to.
spread each other. I will like um Dude. Imagine betting this game. The Saints. What if I told you five weeks ago that the Saints were going to be a six-point favorite at some point this season?
Against the Jets. I don't even think we picked this game. Let's move on. Yeah, we've never done this in history. I honestly, it'll blow my brain up to even think of how that goes down.
Oh, here you go. What are their records? The Saints are 4 and 10, and the Jets are 3 and 11.
So, I mean, I would only take the points with the Jets.
Okay, what week is it? 16? Yes. All right, so here's the new theory. Whatever week it is.
We have we have it.
Okay. So that's eight. Yeah. So, if the two teams don't have a combined eight wins, we do not pick the game. I like that.
Unless we like love the game though. Uh And it's also a very complicated thing, but we just are trying to rationalize.
Okay, go on. We are not. If anybody out there needs a bet, I would only take the Jets. Oh, you picked it. Hey oh, my favorite bet.
How are the Dallas fucking Cowboys?
So they're at home, I get. They're only two they're two-point favorites, I should say. Over the 10-4 Chargers. The Chargers cannot continue to do this. This team has fallen apart.
They have neither tackle. Herbert's hurt, but they keep winning these games, man. I think Dallas wins this game by a field goal. Dallas, 6-7-1. What is the record?
What's the record? Six, seven, and one. Chargers are ten and four. I hate it. I hate it so much.
I love it. I think it's dead though, because adults do it now. They ruined everything. When we were in Denver, we probably said 6-7 more than we said GoPack Go. Yeah.
Parents just don't understand, man. You guys are too old. You're ruining it for the kids. The same way that Dallas is going to ruin it for the Chargers. Cowboys win by three.
I like the Cowboys by more than three. I like them by maybe six. What do you think about the Buffalo Bills laying 10 and a half against the Browns? I think the Buffalo Bills are going to. How do you bet Shador Sanders against Josh Allen?
I know it ain't a one-on-one sport, but Buffalo Bills 10 and a half. 10 and a half. Oh, this is my uh this is my daily doubler. I take the bills by twenty-one. Yeah.
Yeah, maybe more. I like Shadur. You do? I'm trying to. I think he's awful.
I don't think he's an NFL quarterback. And I don't know that he could be a backup because he's in love with himself. And. I'm also not a Dion guy. I just, I can't, you know, I just can't do it.
I wish I could, but Shador just, I can't. And I think that the Browns. could be a good football team if they could get the quarter problem for them though man I think they're going to have to I think Deshaun Watson is going to be on the active roster next year. I do too. They're going to start him.
Which means he's going to start. Oh, my God. All right. They may get left off. Miami is a four-point dog against the Bengals.
Both teams stink, but I love the Dolphins plus four because everybody's going to be like, oh, Ewers sucks. And he does. But he's just wrong with Burrow. Yeah. He's something's going on with him, and I don't know.
And we don't have to pry, but something's going on with him. Huh? Something off the field, it seems like. Yeah, I don't know what it is, but it's a fine. I don't either.
From a football standpoint, it's affecting them. I'm going to take the Miami Dolphins with you as well. Yeah, I think no Tua is a. I mean, I think the Dolphins are just going to be able to run the ball. I love all the Devotechan props.
Bengals' run defense is one of the worst in league history. Not even joking. Who's going to start more games next year? Tua or Kyler? Probably Kyler.
I feel like somebody will think that they could fix Kyler. I don't think you could fix a noodle arm quarterback that can't play if he's not in 80 degrees. That's true. And I just I don't know. The whole Miami situation's fucked up.
I hated how everybody was like liking the Tyreek tweet and like laughing. Like, what a loser tweet. You're not even talking about it. I didn't see it. I didn't see it.
He likes did the peace out, like disappear thing because Tua got benched. And it's like. You're not even active, you bum. And every time we hear from you, you're getting arrested. I'm not a Tyreek guy.
I am a. Michael Pennix's guy, but he's hurt in Atlanta stinks. They're three-point favorites against the Cardinals. I'll take the Cardinals plus three. Although, I guess this game doesn't five.
Nope, we got to skip this one actually. They don't have enough wins? They're they've combined for eight. Is that enough? They have eight.
Yeah, we can do it.
Okay. So I like the Cardinals plus three. Can't lay three with cousins. Um do you see like the Cardinals? I gotta I wanna tell you I tried to find a bet on this last week.
I wanted to bet like their exact point total. Yeah. For Arizona? Because here's what they've scored this year. Ready?
Twenty twenty seven Uh 15, 20, 21, 27, 23, 27, 22, 22, 24, 17, 17, 20.
So it's 22 and a half is their team total. Oh, that's right where it should be. Fuck. Whoa, what do you think about the first half total? 10 and a half.
Hmm. I don't know. You know what I kind of like is the first, you know what I'm gonna bet? You've talked Arizona first quarter over three and a half points. Scripted drive is going to go for six against Atlanta.
I don't know, though. Atlanta's defense is pretty good. I remember when we had Badgers' first half-three, that was the funniest shit of my life. That was great. That has a Gary.
They hung in there that day until, you know, the third quarter started. Thank God we took the first half, and that was it. What bowl are they in? I forget. What'd you say?
The Badgers are going bowling. Did you hear that? They are? Yeah, like during the playoff, they're actually going they're going bowling. Ah, didn't to a bowling alley.
What happened to my voice? I'm going to keep it this way. There we go. It's back, everybody. I've been sick for three weeks.
I've been sick for like three years. Yeah, COVID's back and worse, and no one cares. I know I was just at a concert with like a billion people, just sucking it, doing whippets with people. What do you think about? Oh, this might be the game of the weekend for me.
I love the Jags, as you know, coming into the season, and I loved Liam Cohen. I bet him to win coach of the year. Trevor Lawrence is playing his best ball. Helps when you got a wide receiver who could catch the football. Shout out to Jacoby Myers, who just got paid.
Jags defense is for real. They opened as a five and a half point dog in Denver. Everybody's going to love the Broncos because they were two and a half point dogs at home and they beat the Packers. I think the Jags are going to win this game, man. I love Jacksonville plus three and a half against Denver.
In Denver, too, right? Yep, in Denver, in the Alpha. They haven't lost there. Man, being in Denver. It was a really fun trip, but I just I don't have a lot of kind words to say about Broncos fans.
They suck?
Well first of all that incomplete chant is stupid. Yeah. And Jordan Love didn't throw an incompletion in the first quarter. It was awesome. Um I'm going to take Jacksonville.
But is that a? I think it's a spite pick. Mm. But I like Jacksonville too. I took them to win the South.
At the beginning of the year. Same. Texans are good though. Did you ask me who I took the NFC West? Please don't.
Would you take the Cardinals? Yeah. I had them over on the winds too. I took the Cardinals. Yeah, they're Letter mass.
All right, what else we got? They're a mess.
So let's go to talk to you. I like that we're friends. Yeah, it's nice. And we got the little holiday backdrop. I feel like we're just in a bar right now.
This is my favorite time to go and just drink beer. The holiday season. I love the way that, especially in Wisconsin and the Midwest, the way that they decorate the bars. Bars are on Christmasy, yeah. Yeah.
See a bunch of people you haven't seen. You know where I met Andrew Wagner out last night? Yeah. At Daniel's Palace and Daniel's Palace. I don't know that one.
I don't remember it a lot. I'm Beloit in 100 because. Paragon closed because on Thursdays they close early. Not close, close. Oh.
But on Thursdays they close early to go drink at Daniel's Palace. Like the guys that run it do? Yeah. Yeah. So I found out that little tidbit of my city.
How long did you guys stay out?
Well, I got off at one ten. Yeah. What time did they call last call? Oh, nice. Nice.
Do you think this is the last call for the Lions? They're seven point favorites. Against the Steelers. Totals 52. He took the Chiefs to miss the playoffs.
I took the Lions to miss the playoffs. Me too. I have a feeling they're going to beat the living shit out of the Steelers, though. Me too. Steelers are riding high, and you know, they're like a bouncy-bouncy.
Yeah, I like the tree. Most people call those roller coasters, but you already said roller coaster earlier, so I wanted to change. Yeah, switch it up a little bit. I think the Lions could hang like 40 if they really want. This might be a game where Rodgers looks like he's like 60.
Texans are real. My God, the Texans are 14-point favorites over the Raiders, and that's a lot of points, but I'll never bet the Raiders again. I said earlier that. That the Titans are the worst team. Dude, the Raiders like hire Pete Carroll at 80.
They're getting fired. They're going to move on. They bring in Chip Kelly, who's already been fired. They trade for Gino. They've all sucked.
I think what they should do: why would you keep Max Crosby? Trade him in. Because you're not like. I know he's an awesome player. But he's just one dude on a team of all shitheads.
If you're the Raiders, why are you like? Why are you like, you know what, we should do? We should try to be like those Geno Smith-led Seahawks teams. That finished with seven. Yeah, exactly.
Best case is nine and eight.
Okay. That is like a good point, dude. Pete Carroll Comes back. And he wants the same quarterback that led him to seven wins every year. It would have made more sense if he was like, I want Russ Wilson.
We'd be like, At least they won together. But yeah, that's that would be like... Like you get a divorce with your wife. And you're like, man, I'm sick of her red hair. But then like Two years later.
The first attacking has red hair. You know, I mean, like, you think he'd be like, all right, I'm back, but I want a better quarterback. You know, I don't know. You like the Texans, I'm guessing? Man, if you divorce someone with red hair, that's a you problem.
I know. Why didn't Al Bundy ever want to have sex with Peggy? She was so hot. I know. This is weird.
You know what else is gonna be weird? Good day, big. Right.
Do beer, pig. Give me a beer, pig. Yeah, let's have sex. Uh, no peg. That was the whole show.
Uh nope. Yeah. Oh, what a great show, though, dude. And Bud was always like about that, like, score with some hot chick, and he'd f it up. No peg.
Uh no peg. Yeah, yeah. Pulk high though. Dude, my uncle used to do advertising and so he would always get all this like cool shit. And from RC Cola, I got a Polkai Al Bundy jersey.
I wish I still had that thing. Maybe I could run into Ed O'Neill and ask him to autograph it. Or I could make a 20-minute trip to Baltimore. To watch the Ravens, who are three-point favorites, lose outright to the Pats. I know they blew that 21-point lead.
I just don't think Baltimore is very good. I don't think Lamar's officially back, plus, he's got the stomach flu. I'll take the Patriots plus three. Patriot Day. Uh the Patriot games.
Mm-hmm.
Okay. Drink me. Are you going to try to apply for that? Yeah. Depending on where I'm at, I might do Patriot Games live coverage on the podcast.
You might have to. Patriot. Live update. Get a deal with Fox Nation, maybe. It'd be a real good deal.
Um I am Going to take They lost last week. Yeah, I'll take the Patriots. Yeah, I think they bounce back, dude. They're good. What about uh?
Are you going to bet Phillip Rivers is a five and a half point underdog on Monday night against the Niners? I am. I am going to No. I think he gets his ass kicked. I think last week was the week that he had a little bit left.
Yeah. Do you know that everyone's celebrating that he came back as the health insurance reason, yet Goodell gets health insurance for life? Did he get for life? Yeah, he negotiated in his last extension that he gets health insurance for life.
Meanwhile, these players. They only get it for five years, and then normally what happens to football players is their brain deteriorates in year six and they're fucked.
So just to even even in the NFL, the Suits always win. Yep, which is why I always, as you know, have always been pro player. I think all this. That's why, man, if I'm a running back in college. I'm staying all four years.
You're guaranteed one contract on a rookie deal, which is going to be shit. Because everybody's like, oh, you can't pick a running back top 10. And if you do, you know, you're the Raiders. And it's like, well, you need five linemen to, you know, to block for him, too, unfortunately. But.
Like, I was. Hey, he's not gonna do what he did. It says that the Mountain West is the AFC West day. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And everybody's like, I hate these college players making 4 million.
Oh, but you're cool with Wayne Kiffen just ditching his fucking team for an extra 11 million? Yeah. Shut up peg. Shut up, peg. The players deserve money.
No peg. No, let's fucking give Dabbo an extra 10. Yeah, let's have sex. That was the entire show. Kelvin.
No pick. Christina Applegate. Nope, Christina Applegate was so hot. Uh Kelly Bundy, dude. Domalden Kelly Bondi, always a great rap song too.
What are your uh weekend plans? I gotta go pick up my child. Oh my god, I think I know a Kelly Bundy. You don't. I know a girl who married a guy whose last name was Bundy.
Ten? No. What are my weekend plans? Yeah. Well, I'm going to the Milwaukee Wave game tonight.
Are you really? During the Bama, Oklahoma game? Yeah, and the Badgers play Nova down the street. What uh, this is probably a terrible co who are who are the Milwaukee Wave. What do they do?
Indoor soccer. Ah, it's like a youth soccer night. Do they sell beer? Yeah. I don't drink around my kid anymore.
It's probably a good move, especially if you're, you know. gonna drive to the event. Yeah. Hey, is Giannis gonna stay a buck? Giannis is doing that thing where he's like That's why I always play both sides.
I'm a winner no matter what. My agent, I don't talk to my agent, but I told my agent, but I don't know. He needs to figure it out. I think it's a little weird that like some people on social media that like two years ago had them as their profile picture like 34. You know, man up.
And I'm like, what are you like? This is the like, but here's the thing about the NBA, dude. And you guys should want this as a Bulls fan. I don't want him to trade them because then they're going to suck forever. I love Giannis.
He's not good enough to win a championship. He's good enough to be the best player on a championship team and probably will be for four more years, dude. But. Like, they're not going to be like... Bringing over Zach Levine, I promise you, does not win a chip.
Okay. Is OKC going to lose this year? Like, you know what I mean? Like, Levine and Giannis. aren't beating them.
I actually got a busy weekend. I got a T V hit on channel 12 tomorrow at 8.30. With who? I don't know, whoever does the morning news. What's it on?
They just want to talk Packers Bears. Oh, nice. So I just come down here and go on TV. That's pretty cool. You're going to wear a suit?
No, I always I dress like this. Fuck's hand now. Yeah, I wear a hat. Kids have a kid kid has a basketball game. Mm-hmm.
I got a hit with Rose and Bloom. At what point do we start to get a little concerned with the brewer's front office, this free agency, period? Don't spoil it. You and I are doing that next week. Oh, yeah, that's right.
We're going live. I think they got to chase a big fish. Ryan Horbot, thank you for stopping in. But don't part ways with Kest and Hera. Council fucked here.
Don't get me started on that. Can't you? I remember when I was like. The Brewers went to game seven of the NLCS that year, and I was doing radio, and I was like. I would trade for Mad Bub.
Dude. And everybody's like, yeah, but. You just, you can't trade Kestan here. You can't trade that bat. Ugh, anyway.
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