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Welcome into the Winkler Verse. I'm Bart Winkler, Ryan Horvat alongside. This is our picks episode for the week. And maybe for the month. It's good to have you back, Corby.
No, we're back now. Last week, um I had some stuff going on. And uh now I'm actually and I'm doing it and and yesterday was my birthday and today is actually as we record this is my wife's birthday so I still found time in between because I got to go to a birthday dinner And I got to work tonight. I got to do the show. And then I got to do the college football show tomorrow.
And then. Uh, my dad's coming into town. From Illinois to watch the uh Brewers Cubs game, man, for my birthday, but More important to him. Brewers' Cubs tomorrow. As you know, It's the big one.
The uh tweet I posted, I think, sums up where I'm mad. Said that the Cubs and Brewers should be a fun rivalry, but the loudest Cubs social media accounts ruined it. The media will write about Giannis leaving until they achieve their mission. Packers fans are dreading. Facing old Joe Flacco again.
Wisconsin football is J.V. Rutgers. Have a good weekend. Um There's a lot of negativity around here. I I think Green Bay, I think the Packers are gonna be just fine.
Um The Gianna stuff, it's one guy.
So, like, just mute him. Right? It's just shams.
So. Nah, but then Windhorse gets into it and the whole ESPN machine. You know what I love about the Athletic was writing stuff. Kevin O'Connor, that douchebag. Yeah.
See people This probably pisses some people off. I just can't get into it anymore because of that stuff. I'll watch the games and enjoy the games, but. I just don't even pay attention to wind horse. Like, anytime I see a wind horse or a Stephen A ESPN video.
I'm like, I just. I don't care. Right, I pay attention to the things that I have to pay attention to. I want the sources, I want to know who's hurt. Who's not going to play?
Who might get moved, but. When it's just Giannis thought about joining the Knicks. I don't give a shit. I don't deal in hypotheticals, right? That doesn't help me at the end of the day.
So I just kind of stay away from it at this point. I don't understand why they're still pumping it out. I don't know that there's a market for that kind of content still. Even Knicks fans are like. I mean if you're gonna trade him just trade him, but Jesus.
I wish it was like it used to be. There's almost just too much out there, like content and stuff. There is. Our brains aren't equipped for it. I miss back in the day, like.
I mean, there was numbers you had to call to get scores if you were a degenerate gambler. Or, you know, you read the newspaper. And sometimes, if the game went late, you would have to wait to read about the story from the night before the next day. You'd watch ESPN, you know, the next morning getting ready for school, watching the great Stuart Scott. Or you'd call 1-900-976-ESPN, 99 cents per minute.
Anybody remember that?
Now everybody's just got so much time to fill and we're all guilty of this in this business because like let's be honest, do these shows need to be four hours, especially gambling shows. No, like four hour dude, I'm doing twenty hours a week. And then you guys are like The line has moved from three and a half to three.
Now I'm in. Yeah, gets back to three and a half, man. But yeah, yeah, that's. I just couldn't, I couldn't do the hook. It's like Or, you know, it's like, hey, what's your touchdown parlay?
And it's like, you know, I don't bet that shit. I really don't. I mean, for fun, for funsies, every once in a while, I'm like a $20 bet, but. Hard enough that Especially in today's NFL, man, it's hard enough to predict who's going to score one touchdown. Let alone that.
All right, so anyway, before we get to the football picks, my pick tomorrow is Brewers. Brewers win, they advance to the NLCS. Right now, they're minus 130 favorites. Who's pitching for you guys? I don't know.
Maybe Ms. Yeah. You can throw Priester back out there. He didn't do shit the other day.
So looking back on this series, is starting a Chicago native in Wrigley for his first playoff game when he's 25. Probably a mistake. And then you almost got to like. I don't know how you would have prepared for this, but the Cubs fans Chanting Freddy Freddy. That was just so like.
Wow. Yeah, good for good for them. They did it. And I, you know, Brewers fans are talking about, like, oh, what's, we gotta, we gotta get loud in game five. Brother, the day that there's going to be a Wisconsin fan.
Situation, Packers, Bucks, wherever, where we're not reacting. All we do is react. We never stand up. We never did it, even at the game I was at game one. You know, it's like three, two comments and I'm like, get up, get up.
And people are like, it's the third inning. Like we're we're in them. Fucking playoffs. Playoffs. Every you should be standing the entire game.
And I just don't think, and then there's going to be nervous energy from whatever Wisconsin fans, Brewers fans show up. There's going to be more Cubs fans in game five, I would assume, than game one or two. Oh, yeah.
So it's going to just, it's going to, we're, we're. The fans like You know, what impact does it have? You never know. But it's certainly. It certainly helped.
In Chicago. Wisconsin fans never help their team. We just react. And I think that's okay to say. We got to be introspective if we're going to be better around here.
Dickweeds. What I hate about the rivalry is it should be fun, 'cause one, like And I know you guys don't want to hear this. I don't hate the Brewers. I mean, now I do, don't get me wrong, because you guys win the division every year, but I don't. I don't like hate them the way that I hate the Cardinals.
I even hate the Astros still because You know, growing up, I loved Milwaukee because my uncle. was the play-by-play broadcaster and you guys were in the fucking American League. And now you're in my division and you guys are like. Oh, you know Talk like, you know, you guys think you're big brother and this and that. Like, no, guys, I'm just trying to enjoy my team and bitch about my own team.
And this is kind of what I hate that. where the rivalry is like went, you know, it's I think if you're a Milwaukee fan. It should be really cool that it's game five, and you could just make a one-hour, hour-and-a-half trip. Go watch the game with your kid. You should be able to go to Wrigley Field in a Brewer's jersey, though.
You should be able to, if you're a Cubs fan. You know, go to Milwaukee, bring your kid. And wear your Kyle Tucker PCA jersey. It should be fun. Like, sport, like all these videos I see where these Jabroni Cub fans show up in Milwaukee.
And they're like. flipping people off. Or they're messing with the mascots. Like, how big of an idiot are you, man? Just, you're like in somebody else's home.
You know, this is kind of it's always been that way in the NFL, and that's why I love Lambo. You don't really get a whole lot of that at Lambo, but man, you go to some of these other places, these stadiums, and it's like, oh. Have small kids, do you really want to bring them to a football game? But you should be able to go, it should be a rivalry. You guys should hate the Cubs and the Players and Craig Counsel.
That's awesome. Boom. But like when I see like Fans fighting, I think that's just the dumbest shit. You know what I mean? I really do because it's like, I don't even want to go to the games.
Like, you know what I mean? I don't want to get punched in the face. For wearing a Cubs jersey, and you should be there to support your team. Like, you know, and yeah, people should give you a little help. Booyah.
That's the way it was, at least for me growing up.
Now, And then you see these fake stories. This Cub fan punched a 10-year-old kid. That never happened. Like no ten-year-old kid was a lot of it's the tw a lot of it is social media too, like these Twitter people, man. These cubs rage baiters.
Yeah, like relax and watch the fucking game. And then what was this article in the trib that like Milwaukee's so jealous of Chicago's restaurants? What the fuck? Can we just have a game without it? Like, Chicago likes Milwaukee, and Milwaukee likes Chicago.
Yeah, me and my friends like would always go to. Here's the thing, man. Milwaukee people like going to Chicago because, like, wow, it's a bigger version. There's more to do. Chicago fans like coming to Milwaukee because it's like, oh, it's a little more quiet version.
And then and then our teams play each other and it's like Uh, you can't get a steak at 11:30, you piece of shit. What the fuck? No, I'm mad because a pitcher can't locate his fucking curveball. I mean, that is like Chicago's awesome for the late night food options as a late night eater, I will say, but like I don't even have that here. Like, you know, DC kind of struggles with that too.
Some of my favorite restaurants are in Milwaukee.
So I just think that's a dumb argument as well. That's the thing. The rivalry, it's just become dumb. I get hating the team and hating Craig Counsel, hating PCA, hate Kyle Tucker. I don't really think that the Cubs are a hatable team, though, to be honest with you.
Like, I like this bro.
Well, PCA is. Oh, I can see hating him. Yeah, absolutely. I love him personally. If he's on your team, you love him.
He's awesome. Cubs fans don't like that Mizorowski shows emotion, but. PCA, if I got to hear Ron Darling say a motion on his sleeve, also, Ron Darling can go to hell. And see, I'm a Cubs fan, and I'm saying I hate most Cubs. Like, growing up, the joke I always made was I wish I was a Sox fan, because Sox fans actually are like.
Cool, they know baseball. Cubs fans are a bunch of yuppies. Half of them don't go into the game until the fifth inning, which sucks because then you sneak up into the good seats and some Jabroni shows up in the fifth inning. You know, two beers in his hand, half in the, hey, bro, these are my seats. Hey, asshole, we're 75 pitches in.
Like, where have you been? But yeah. I'm cheering for the Cubs, but I actually think you guys win. It don't matter because whoever wins is getting slammed by the Dodgers. Cause here's the funny thing.
Like, I love listening to you guys bitching about who you're throwing out there, because we're bitching about who we're, what council's doing. Everybody's ripping council. I think both managers have been awesome, and that's why both teams are still playing this year because I think that both front offices are pieces of shit. At least you guys are small market, medium market, smaller market. Chicago's the number one, two or three market.
And you know, we're spending money on fucking Trump's campaign. Rather than uh we're helping Trump, you know, rather than uh, I don't know, signing anybody. You know, like Kyle Tucker don't even want to fucking be here.
Well, Mark Adnazio's buying up. beaches and stealing their sand. That's what I'm saying, though. Like, so everybody's money in the soccer club. Fucking council's an idiot.
Shoda sucks. Yeah, Shoda does suck. You know, but like, who the fuck do you want him to invent a player? Can he create a player? Like, who do you want the Brewers?
That's why the Dodgers, I was having this argument with everybody on our show. And I'm like, I'm gonna pick the Dodgers. And everybody's like, oh, they just don't have it this year. I'm like. They won the World Series last year.
They're dicking around. They haven't been healthy. They could throw Tyler Glass now at you. Like, we still don't even know who either is. It's game five to go to the NLCS.
Neither of us know who our teams are gonna pitch. Tomorrow, as we record. And meanwhile, Roki Suzaki is a three-inning closer. And look at the teams that win World Series, like the Nationals a couple years ago with Strasbourg and Scherzer, the Dodgers with every pitcher known to man. You know, like Otani's just a luxury, he couldn't even throw last year.
And that's the other thing, they have Otani and everybody's like, He's betting one fifty wait till he plays my team. Or your team. I bet you he hits 875. It's how it goes. But yeah, it's brought to you by I'm getting off the baseball.
I'm getting off. I'm going to put him fucking. I can't believe I just talked. I hate baseball. I know.
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that we didn't get around to it. The Eagles, here's the thing with the Eagles. I'm starting to think like these guys are betting on themselves with the over-unders. 'Cause they're always they always win, but they're never happy how they won. And now this tush-push bullshit.
I mean, there's nobody that's not an Eagles fan that, like, is still sticking up for that, right? That is four times in a row. I mean, it's getting ridiculous, but, um I do eventually think that the league is going to have to do something about it, but they didn't this year. I mean, Goodkins, they tried. The Packers tried.
Everybody didn't follow the lead and the NFL I just man like Eventually, you're going to get all your. I don't know. I've been saying it for a couple of years, but you're taking years off these guys' careers, I feel. I don't know. I don't think the Eagles are very good this year.
I picked them last year, I bet them last year. uh to win the Super Bowl. But this year, I just think that there's something missing with that team. And I don't think Jalen Hurts is. I don't know, man, right?
Because he won a Super Bowl and he plays his best, though, in the big games. I don't want to overreact yet, but I don't think the Eagles are as good as they were last year.
Meanwhile, Giants are exciting. I guess, I mean. I just saw somebody say like Jackson Dart is going to wheelchair Cam Scatabo to the midfield for the Super Bowl presentation at the because like he th this guy this guy this this kind of running is not sustainable. For scan. I'm supposed to.
What I say that is, I keep saying I'm going to go out to New York. for the Packers Giants game and I'm making like plans with Carlos. Yet I've Looked at no flights or hotels or tickets. But, like, I'm apparently going to be in New York for that game. I'm very good at it.
Uh November, mid-November. Oh yeah, you'll get a hotel fine. It'll be alright.
Well, I'm not worried about a hotel shortage. It's not Green Bay, but. I don't know. Now that I got it like, 'cause it's like a business trip, but I'm spending my own money. 'Cause I wanna I wanna go do a show at the studio in New York.
Yeah. So I build a trip around the Packer game and then all of a sudden I'm like I keep being like You're l You'll f you guys'll fly me out, right? They're like, yeah, you should come out. You fly me out? Yeah, we'll find a day for you to come.
You're gonna you're gonna pay me to fly? Yeah. Because there's no need for me. I can just sit in my fucking... Sitting Duck stand and Hales Corners.
Yeah. Or I see more deer at the office than humans. There are a lot of deer. Especially in the winter. Yeah, in the summer, Ryan Horvat.
First game on the board this weekend is out in London, England, where we have the New York Jets. Catching seven and a half points against the Denver Broncos. Total in the game is 43.5. I'm going to go with the Jets here because they're terrible, but the Broncos are coming off that big win against the Eagles.
Now they have to make the trip to London. And I think Bo Nix is going to throw an interception in this game. The Jets' defense can't be any worse. They have to show up on the offensive side of the ball. Uh Let's go.
Yeah, let's. I'm going to bet this actually right now. I haven't bet this game yet. Give me the Jets plus seven and a half. I'm not a born.
I'm going to take that with you. I think a lot of people are piloting on the Jets. I do think eventually Aaron Glenn will win a playoff game. I don't obviously it's not going to be this year. But you know everyone's like oh he's coming in with his bravado and What's he supposed to do?
Come in and be a little bitch like Robert Sala was? He's trying to put an identity on this team that's been lacking one. The ownership's the problem there, but you can't change owners.
So, you know, Fields has been. Field has been good. like waiting for the second half for any fantasy stats. And I'm down on the Broncos. The Broncos are a team.
that I just flat out hate and I hate Sean Payton.
So I'm never going to give them the benefit of the doubt. And the Colts are a team that I'm going to keep moving the goalpost for. Even though we were Daniel Jones people. I just don't I don't know. I don't like that.
I don't like that they dirty dogged Anthony Richardson. I'm gonna take the Jets with you. On this game. Let's go. J-E-T.
You know what's awesome about that? I get to put on my Jets lamp for one more time. Yeah. I, oh, can I say something though? Actually, I can, because it's, it's so, um, I was right about Aaron Glenn.
He sucks, and he's always going to suck. And I like this because you don't fuck with Aaron Rodgers. Hey, Uh Really quick check on the AFC North. Right now, are the Baltimore Ravens in first place? No, they're not in first place.
What about the Bengals, man, with Joe Burrow? No, they're not in first place. Oh, is it? Is it Eww! Aaron Rodgers, the best quarterback, baby.
You guys don't want to. Aaron Glenn, Aaron Rodgers flies out to you on his own dime. And you don't even you don't even give them the time of the day because you want to move on to Justin Fields. But yeah, I'd like the Jets to cover. Ah, what's next?
I don't have any games in front of me. It's all you, friend. Yeah. Um I know. I know.
All right, next game. I got all fired up. You're hosting the show. Uh Seattle. Bart is a one and a half point dog against Jacksonville.
Total is 47 and a half. Same line of thinking. I got a big bet on the Seahawks. Jags beat the Chiefs. Everybody's like, man, this Jags team's for real.
They're going to get Travis Hunter more involved.
Meanwhile, the Seahawks are coming off a loss in a shootout against our boy Baker Mayfield. Darnold's, I thought Darnold was gonna regress this year. Change of scenery, right? Without Kevin O'Connell and Justin Jefferson. Darnold gets better every week.
I like the Seahawks here a lot. Give me Seattle plus one and a half. Trevor Lawrence, great performance. Obviously, that rushing touchdown is a signature moment in his career. He's still got like the 29th rated.
Passer rating. He's still bad. He sucks. See how I believe in them, but the he sucks. This is a cross-country trip.
Yep. All right. If the temperature is under 80, I'll take Seattle. One moment. Uh hold on, let's I could actually give you the weather, bro.
Ooh, it's gonna be seventy-four and it might rain.
So Seattle? Uh, in Jacksonville. Yeah, no, but it always so Seattle's gonna be used to that. It's always raining. It's coffee, it's grunge meat.
But it might be a Florida rain where it rains at like three thirty for fifteen minutes. What if it's a November rain? Darling, when I hold you, don't you know I feel the same? Great. I'll take Seattle because it's less than eighty, it's gonna be seventy-five.
Okay, okay. All right, let's go on to the next one. I gotta plug in my computer. No, you're good. Our guy Mark Malusis just hit me up and asked me if I could do 1120 on Sunday.
I'm I'm paying attention to you, but I do 1120 with our guy, Zach Geld. Uh And so I said, yes, that works perfect.
So now, in case anybody wants more picks, more prop bets. I'll be on with. Zach Gelb, 11:20. Mark Malusis by 11:40.
So there you go. I'm Mr. New York. Maybe I could hook you up with these hotels, dude. I'm like the king of New York.
Yeah, help me. I'm going to probably stay at a Motel 6 by LaGuardia. I'm bigger in New York right now than Tough Daddy because he's Gonna go to prison for a couple of years. He should be in prison a lot longer, but hey, what do I know? Let's go out to Kansas City, Bart.
Where the Chiefs This is the prime time game, but we're going to skip around a little bit.
Okay. Because I want to talk about this game with you. Because we just kind of talked about this with the Jags. The Chiefs are two and a half point favorites against the Lions. The total is 52.5.
It went up. Yeah, dude, and I think I gotta walk back my Detroit comments from this summer. About I think Dan Campbell is more than a glorified gym teacher. I think the Lions are still. You gotta walk back my Detroit feelings as well.
Yeah, they got like a solid pass rush. Goff looks pretty good again, even without Ben Johnson. Outside of the Packer game, they're averaging 40 points a game. And that was a bad spot, man, because like you didn't they didn't really know what to Green Bay was all hyped up with Micah. The crowd actually showed up for one.
They weren't doing the polka and in the wave. I uh that said, man, I gotta go with the Chiefs here. Lions Is it in Arrowhead? Then Arrowhead. Yeah, I'll take the Chiefs.
The Chiefs. The Chiefs are, they're going to get like dangerous. Oh no, we're two and three, we're four and five, but they're never gonna be like. Two and four, four and like, it's never gonna be that bad. Yeah.
They're not gonna go all ravens on us. I think they're about to go on a run. If I was going to make a future bet right now, their schedule is very, their schedule, it's tough. And also, there's a lot being asked of them. They have a lot of Primetime games, they have to play on Thanksgiving, they have to play on Christmas, so I don't know about that though.
Could I and I'm not just saying this because You already know how much I love him, and I know you don't want to talk Rogers. But I think I don't like how we have Mahomes above Rodgers all-time greats because of his Super Bowl rings. Give Aaron Rodgers Tyree. What's the only reason Brady's the GOAT? Brady's not the best quarterback ever, but he won the most.
I think Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback of all time. Maybe. I I mean like y y you guys like The playoff losses, you gotta go back and you got he was shitting some of them, but like Brady was shitting some wins and some loss. Like, you know, and when you think about it, like the teams that Rodgers was losing to, especially when you watch today's NFL, Those will stand, I think, as historically good defenses. Legion of boom, and they should have won the game.
Those Niners defenses. And When you got Colin Kaepernick rushing for 185 yards and throwing for 275, what the fuck is Aaron Rodgers? It's like when people are like, is Mike Trout really the best baseball player? He's never been to the postseason. Like, what do you want them to do?
I was looking at the 2011 season, even the year they were putting up 45 points a game. The scores were not like 45 to 10. They were like 45 to 33. I just like, how have you watched Mahomes the last three years and then you watch Prime Rogers and you're like, this guy's better. Or even like, okay, so like, I'm going to take away me being a Rogers lover.
Peyton Manning. And again, I know, like, Sparky, because he's a Colts fan, it's like he chokes in the playoffs. Dude, it's not a one-on-one sport. The best quarterback just, it's you need all 111. The best offensive and defensive line is going to win the Super Bowl.
Is Jalen Hurts a better quarterback than Mahomes? No. Eagles had the better team. You know what I mean? Like, was Garoppolo a better player than Rodgers?
Fuck no. But the Niners had an awesome team, and Kyle Shanahan was running circles around that coaching staff.
So I just. I don't know, man. I don't think Mahomes is the greatest of all time. I really don't. And I've said that before.
The last couple of years. You could blame, okay, they don't like the receivers are hurt, he doesn't have Rashi Rice. But there's some games where you watch him and it's like. What the fuck was that, right? Or is it just me?
Well, he also does the crazy plays, and then he gets Collinsworth to go, Oh my God. Right, like, is Patrick, hold on, is Patrick Bahomes an industry plant? Let's listen, like, hold on. This is a guy that everybody's telling me is the greatest of all time. His last three seasons.
2023. 27 touchdown passes, 14 interceptions. Last year. 26 touchdowns. 11 interceptions.
2022, 41 touchdown passes, 12. But like The last couple of years, man, he hasn't been all that good. Did the league figure out Pet Mahomes? The too high shell I mean I don't know. All I'm saying is people are asking.
Big week for the Chiefs. And if they miss the playoffs this year. I think we got to like rewalk some of these, like our quarterback listings, in my opinion. Anyway, command. Oh, that game's Monday.
I'm so excited for it, though. Let's go out to Carolina. The Panthers are three-point dogs, taking on the Cowboys. Total's 49 and a half. What game's Monday?
It's Chicago, Washington. Oh. The Tobies. There's isn't there two games Monday? Isn't Bills Falcons Monday too?
Oh, yeah, you know what? It is.
So let's go back to watch in game one of the NLCS, which whatever our shitty teams are in it.
So we're not going to even watch these games. Let's talk about this Bears Commanders game because I'm actually really excited for this one. I bet the Bears. I think the Bears win.
So you get a revenge angle. Last year. If the Bears beat the Commanders, they would have been a 5-2 football team. And I think their season goes a different way. Instead, they lose on that bogus Hail Murray play, and then the Commanders go on that crazy run.
I know that Jaden looked really good last week, but I think this is going to be a shootout. I think the Bears are off the bye. I think Ben Johnson's going to have a good offensive game plan. Give me Chicago to cover the four and a half.
Sorry, Toby. I'm gonna go three for three with you. Bared out. Um Chicago area. And it's going to be like an all-time great night as the Cubs beat the Dodgers in game one.
How about the city of Philadelphia on Thursday? People are like, Eagles lost, Phillies got eliminated, and the Flyers lost. Oh no, the Flyers lost. Ooh. Yeah, but last Saturday Goose was there and they performed a pretty epic show, so they got that at least, you know.
Yeah, they do. What about Carolina catching three at home? Where are we? Why are we jumping all over the schedule? Because okay, so like when I bet games, I track my picks, you know?
And so then they're at the top. And these games just rock. And we got two Monday night games, so we can kind of bounce around a little bit. It's a pretty good. Again.
I like Dallas to cover the three against Carolina. I think Dallas is going to go on a little run here. I do too. I think Dak Prescott should be. I always say wherever you rank your quarterbacks I have Dak at least four spots higher.
And he and Baker I would look at as MVP candidates right now. I love Baker too. I love how he hates like every team he plays, there's a guy on that team that like fucked him over somehow. He's like, yeah, he's the defensive coordinator. Like, he was making the decisions when they cut me in close.
Dallas playing in Carolina always reminds me of 1996 when they had a playoff game there and we wanted Dallas to win so we could beat him going to the Super Bowl. And instead, Carolina won, and we just smoked Dom Capers instead. Was it Tim Biako Batuca on that team? Mm, I don't know. He may have.
Yeah. All-time great name, Tim Biako Batuca. We should on every week we should come up with five all-time. My favorite is Vi Sikahima. I like that one.
I like that one. Current day, I'm a big fan of Squirrel White for some reason, the wide receiver. I like it. All right, let's go out to Miami. where uh Mike McDaniel every day, man I feel for the guy.
I'll say this: if Mike McDaniel gets fired, he could come to Green Bay and call plays. LaFlore sucked last couple weeks. I don't think McDaniel's a really good play caller. I just don't think he's a head coach, and he's like coaching a bunch of wimps that quit on him a long time ago. Give me the Chargers to bounce back and win this game by at least five.
They're four and a half point favorites. I'll go with them. I don't know, this is kinda like last chance hotel for the Dolphins. Does seem like everybody's going to like the Chargers here, too. And I don't trust the Chargers.
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Wow. All right, Pittsburgh, my boys. Aaron Rodgers laying six against the Browns. Total in the game is 38 and a half. I will take the Steelers actually.
Hmm. Um You know, you got a bunch against Rogers. 11 and a half? Six. No, it's just six.
Why did I hear 11? Yeah, I'll bet against Rodgers. Guys, I said you can take Rodgers, you hate Rodgers. I know you hate talking about Shadur, but why can't. I think they just did actually announce he's going to be the backup quarterback.
Why is it so hard to announce a backup quarterback? It isn't even that I hate talking about Shador. I just like. I hate that. It's like such a big deal because he's you know, so all the attention that was put on to is Shadur the backup quarterback this week?
Like, people don't want to draft Shadur because of all the stuff that comes with it. They created the stuff this week. Right. The only reason that we're talking about it is It'd be like, oh, they traded Joe Flacco.
Okay, well, Dylan Gabriel's still the starter because he already was. But instead, it's this: will they or won't they start Shadur or backup Shadur? They've created the drama. That they're trying to avoid. I don't get it.
I think the Browns might be worried that Shador might actually win a game or two. Like Dylan Gabriel. Fine, trade him then if you don't want him. To who? Who wants?
I don't think anybody wants them, do they? I mean, if he's good, there's a lot of teams that are good. I don't think he's good. I don't think any of these guys are good except for Vanilla Vic. I think Dart's pretty good.
I think Shadur is going to end up in Miami. That's my prediction. How do you end up in like the USFL, man, or whatever the Rock's new legal be, the XFL? I don't, I just. He's just like I don't I don't know that guys are going to want to play with him.
I think that he's like a And he loves himself, and you know. He holds on mainly on the field. He holds on to the ball way too long and he can't push the ball down the field.
So we'll see, though. I could be wrong. I've been wrong before. See if I'm wrong here. The Ravens, seven and a half point dogs against the Rams.
Totals 44.5. I'll take the Ravens to cover here, even without Lamar. They've been terrible. I saw something crazy, man. The Ravens, what are we in now?
Week. Week six? Yeah, week six. First five weeks of the season, this Ravens defense gave up more points already than the 2000 Ravens that won the Super Bowl. Isn't that nuts?
I'm going to take the Rams. They could be easily 5-0. The Ravens are just biding time until Lamar comes back. Their defense can't do shit. I don't, I can't.
Trust them in any capacity. I'll take the Rams. You know what's crazy? The Ravens are still the favorites right now to win that division. Yeah.
Yeah. I I would have to put the Steelers at again, no. Who? I'd go with the Ravens still. They're one in four.
Steelers, Broncos, Colts, these are just teams I'm never going to admit are good. I think the Colts are pretty good. Speaking of their seven-point favorites against Arizona, totals 47.5. I will take Arizona to cover after that nightmare that cost me my. I had him in Survivor, by the way.
I didn't go with the Saints. I hate myself. I should have gone with the Saints. I stayed away. I want to go Saints and then I thought Arizona and I thought, no, I can't trust them.
But then I went Rams. Ah. I feel like everybody did the same thing, the same three teams. I should have gone Saints. I'm sorry.
I want to go Saints 2. It was right in front of us.
So pissed. I know. It was the one time you could use them, too. I'm thinking of the Cardinals as well. You're taking Cardinals.
What about the Saints this weekend? I actually like them, dude, because New England just beat Buffalo outright as a seven and a half point favorite, our dog.
Now they gotta make the trip to New Orleans. Spencer Rattler's been playing pretty good football. I like the Saints not only to cover the three and a half, I think they beat the Patriots and shock everybody this weekend. That's my upset special. I'll write on that with you because I think that too many people are crowning New England too soon.
Yes. Yes, I think Drake May's going to throw a couple picks in this game, too. Let's go to Vegas where the Raiders are. I think Grable's the kind of guy who's going to. kinda take a big shit and then put his mouth in the in the in the bowl and sniff it all day.
S mm. Big graphic. I hope he doesn't do that. You know where Mike Vrable used to coach, though. Tennessee Titans, four and a half point dogs against the Raiders.
Total 41 and a half. Give me The Raiders. Dude, we do picks for like every game, you know? And so I always have to have like a prop bed at least or something. This has been the toughest one ever for me.
Give me here. Yeah, I'll go Raiders more and a half. Are you doing a prop bet? I ended up taking in that one, um Take Jacoby Myers over receptions. Oh, I bet the under 41 and a half.
I can tell you why, too. These are like, I was looking at this today, and I was like, man, what a low total. I could see this being a shootout. And then I dove into it a little bit more and I was like, no, I can't see this being a shootout. This Raiders offense has been terrible.
Geno Smith's been one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. Raiders are twenty ninth in points per drive and the Titans are thirty first.
So we're going to go under 41 and a half tonight. But I like, I'll go Raiders here, though. Um yeah, I'm gonna go with you. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, three-point favorites against the 49ers. Total.
47 and a half. I love Baker Mayfield. I th I'm gonna go Tampa. I'll take Tampa. I've been betting this 49ers team.
They've been playing good football, even all beat up, but. Bakers at home. Usually, I like them as an underdog, but I think they win this game. Give me Tampa here. I think I might be going to the Sprewers game.
Oh. With who? Yourself? My brother. Oh, well yeah, why wouldn't you?
I don't know yet. You gotta go. Your team's in the playoffs. I counted. I'm 40 now, unfortunately.
Or I guess fortunately I'm alive. The Cubs have only made the playoffs five times in my life, dude. Isn't that crazy? What do you want to win? You got Cub fans that are tough.
Brewers didn't make a play until I was 24. Yeah, Cup fans are like so high and mighty talking shit. We made five postseason runs, one World Series. Sister Jean just passed away yesterday. I never seen him.
She sought two Cub World Series, though. I'm trying to say being a Cubs fan is worse than being a Brewers fan. I didn't.
Okay. Think it probably equally sucks, I would assume. Maybe sucks a little you guys didn't get a World Series in 2016. Would you do all right, let me ask you a question. Would you rather be Ben Zobrist or not be Ben Zobrist, World Series hero?
Isn't his life falling apart? Yeah, that's what I'm saying, man. Like, he was a World Series hero, but then, like, his wife was banging the pastor and they, like, stole a bunch of money from him. Yeah, I'd rather have my kids back than win a World Series. Yeah, I don't know.
Um Are you going San Francisco or Tampa Bay? Yeah. And are you good? And are you going to the brewery game? 414-799?
Could Bart go to the Brewer game? He did it. What did he do? We'll tell you. I'm curious about going.
I'm concerned if I go, I'll die. Yeah. I'm confident if I go they will lose. I'm confident if you go you'll be drunk. I'm curious to see if you make it home.
God, I always hated that segment. Sign up. Very sparky. What's the line? I'd be like, what the fuck, man?
What am I curious? I don't know. Like, did they win? The line, Tampa Bay's a three. I'm curious if Aaron Jones can get 20.
A 20-yard rod. I'm con yeah. I'm confident that the Packers win by at least two slacks. I'm confident in four and a half sacks. Remember, I could never remember.
It was confident, curious, and what? Concerned. Yeah. I was always like, I'm concerned with the Packers offense. I'm concerned that we're coached by a literal idiot.
Yeah. Tampa Bay? Uh I mean the Niners What if they would have just drafted Mac Jones instead of Trey Lance? He'd be like. Joe Montana.
Yeah, you'd be awesome. Instead, Matt Patricia was calling his plays. Which is crazy. Matt Patricia is doing a hell of a job calling the defense at Ohio State. Yeah, defense.
I know. And now. Aronu is the head coach. Barely. Oh, Detroit.
He yelled at that reporter. The reporter was like slouched in his seat and he was like, Show some class, man, sit up.
Meanwhile, he had like crumbs in his beard. It was hilarious. I'm gonna... I'm going to go with the Fighting Bakers. Yeah, why the fuck would you not?
God damn, let's move on to Green Bay. Actually, we'll say Packers for last. We got to. That's why I'm going in this order. Let's go to the other Monday night game.
Atlanta's a four and a half point dog against Buffalo. Totals 50. Give me Atlanta to cover. I think they're going to be able to run the ball here. I'm a little worried about the Bills, man.
I think they're going to be able to throw the ball. Everybody in their secondary is torch right now in Buffalo. That's what I'm saying. I feel bad for again. Like what if Josh Allen doesn't win a Super Bowl?
Are we gonna be like, well, Josh Allen couldn't get it done in the playoffs? What more could he done? I'll take what's the line? Four and a half only. For the bills?
Yeah. I'm gonna take the bills. All right, Green Bay at home at Lambeau Field. Is it a roll out the wagons game or roll out the helmets game?
Well, they're not covering. They're not fucking covering. Thank you. Yeah, I'm betting this game. I'm betting the Bengals, dude.
I look at 14. I'm just praying we win. And you guys might laugh at that at home. Worried. I'm not worried about actually facing Joe Flacco again.
I'm worried about the world that exists if we do lose to him. There's a difference between. Being worried about a thing and then not wanting that thing to happen. I wasn't worried at first about losing to the Cubs. I just didn't want to blow a 2-0 lead to Council, and now that's happening.
I'm worried Jordan Love sucks. Don't don't don't do that all. I'm not at all. I'm not worried that he sucks. I'm worried.
that Matt LaFleur thinks he sucks. Is that fair? Yes, Matt LaFleur thinks Jordan Love sucks because he hits Aaron Rodgers. Like I think right now one of them one of them might suck. And I really still like LaFleur.
You know Love was so good against Dallas. It's just sometimes it's just the decision making where I'm like, but I got to just come to grips with he's not Aaron Rodgers, and nobody ever will be. And there's some good in that. And there's some bad in that. I don't know, maybe LaFleur sucks.
I don't know. Maybe the Maybe the mic I Micah's awesome, but like they really need a cover corner. They need another DB, I think. That's what worries me about this game, man, is I can see like just Jamar Chase and T. Higgins going off.
How? Joe Flacco can't get these guys to football. Yes, he can. He's not better than Jake Browning.
Well and this offensive line already got Burrow killed and they almost got Browning killed so they got a 40 year old now. I like how we say, I'm 40 now. Everybody's like, Man, he's too fucking old. Get out of here, man. I did hot yoga before I jumped on with you today.
I mean, I got I'm a p I my body's d I'm I'm in hur I'm hurt. You are why? But I'm 41. You tag on another year, Horvot, and you're going to be torched. Yeah.
So Packers win but don't cover. Are we agreement on that? I think they win. I'm going to go prediction wise. I'm going to go 35-28.
I was thinking thirty-one to Twenty. Yeah. Yeah. Jordan Love's going to have a big game, I think, I think, against this secondary. I like Josh Jacobs to score a touchdown.
Duh. I'll give a touchdown to Dontavian Wicks. I'm going to go Romeo Dobbs. Great matchup for him. Hmm.
Yeah. And he's got the Big ass helmet. like Hey, how about Christian Watson? He'll be playing football soon. I'll believe it when I see it.
I think it's awesome that he's just on the field right now. He's a huge get back if he could stay healthy. Even if he doesn't do much. Just defenses having to worry about him out there. 'Cause I Matthew Golden was always going to take time.
A lot of these guys are like, man, he's going to be a stud right away. He's a rookie in Green Bay. You know, and I don't know that LaFleur trusts young players. Anyway, go pack go. Uh go Brewers, till I get off this podcast and I rip you guys.
Go cubs, go, you know. Don't at me. I hate how good that song is. It is just so good. Do you know that it's, you know, why Go Cubs Go Exist?
No what? The guy wrote a song, Steve Goodman. Yeah. Yeah. About like It was like Let me look it up because it was something about he wrote a song about like Strawberry Fields.
Going to a Cubs game is like going to a funeral or something. Uh I disagree. That's like going to a Tampa Bay Rays game. You ever go to a Rays game, dude? It's like in the middle of fucking nowhere?
They're always. I love that stadium. Yeah, but nobody cares. Go comes go. I like it because you could sit behind home plate for like 20 bucks.
They like pay you. Like here, here's $20 at a hot dog. No, no, we pay you. Yeah. Gold Cubs go.
Marlin's man comes over and wakes. Never mind. He says. I was just reading about this the other day. Remember when Marlin's man used to text me nonstop?
Yeah. I would use it against my Nathan, watch, I could control this guy's mind. And I would text him and I'd say, like, do this. Oh, so in 1981 He, um He wrote a song called A Dying Cubs Fan's Last Request.
Sounds okay. About the failures of the franchise. They banned it at Wrigley. The song described the team as a doormat of the National League and referred to Wrigley as an ivy-covered burial ground. He wrote Go Cubs Go Out of like spite.
Like, fine. You want a fucking good song? I'll write you a fucking uplifting song. And he wrote, Go, Cubs, Go. And like The same way a lot of my great ideas come out of Telling someone to fuck off.
Yeah. That's why Go Cup Go exists. You know what? You know, obviously, that's on my playlist. I wonder if I can't play it or I can't post it.
No, I know. I won't actually play it, but I could find the name of it. Yeah, so Steve Goodman. He died like right after he wrote it.
So the song, I won't play it, 72. You can actually find this on Apple Music. It's called The Dying Cub Fans. I just said this. Yeah.
The lyrics go by the shores of Old Lake Michigan, where the hawk wind blows so cold. An old Cub fan lay dying in his midnight hour that told. All around his bed his friends had all gathered. They knew his time was short. And on his head, they put This bright blue cap from his all-time favorite sport.
And he said, It's late. It's getting dark in here. I know it's time to go. But before I leave the lineup, there's one thing I'd like to know. Do they still play the b okay, who gives a shit?
But yeah, it's up there. Have a miserable weekend. Thanks, David. Until Sunday. Until Sunday.
Oh yeah, that's right, because we're going head to head. Hey, may the best man win. Yeah. I say final score, Brewers, seven, cubs, three. Yeah.
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