Good afternoon, everybody. I'm Bart Winkler. Welcome into the Winkler-verse alongside Graham Pills and Paul Imig. It's great to see you guys our weekly edition of the show.
You can get it on all your podcast platforms and the Dan Shady YouTube stream. I'm getting self-conscious when I'm talking about, I open my show and I'll be like, hey, you can get us. And then I'm thinking, you're getting us right now. If you're listening, this isn't a billboard or else I'm like, oh, it doesn't ever work out for you. Here's what else we are.
But yeah, same with this. We do have this on video or if you're on video, we have it on audio. I am aiming to do the yearly annual, a new one, schedule release win-loss the Packers schedule episode with Ryan Horvat.
Ryan Horvat, I had to bet. It's got to be you and Harvey. Yeah. So we're gonna try to find a time to do that as the slow drip continues.
You know, we all love that. I need to first complain about something that happened on my show on Tuesday, which I feel like I'm wrong about. Oh, what I'm going to complain about I'm wrong about. Wow. I shouldn't have this complaint, but I do. So short story long, I hate people that say no mome.
We've done this, you and me, or maybe you, me and Grant. I don't remember. Rest in piss bees.
Rest in piss bees. Yeah, that's right. You did. Yeah. Well, this year, I hate people that say that because I think they're just being lazy.
Like I don't want to get it out for the first time, you know? Yeah. So I don't think people are being genuine to the bees, which means a lot to me, obviously. So then this year I went to mow my lawn and my mower won't start. So you put out a no mow mason. Yeah. So I jacked one from my neighbor down the street because people put signs in their lawn. Yeah.
It's not like it's just a thing. It's Hey, here's the reason I'm just so you know, you're going to look at my lawn and judge me. Just so you know, my little parcel of Shorewood grass by not mowing this very small patch of turf is going to keep the bee population thriving. Do you know what it's like to maintain a sixth of an acre? Yeah.
It's very, very hard. So then I put on Facebook that, uh, that picture of rest and piss bees. And I said, this was from last year. This year, my mower won't start.
The bees are fighting back or something. Okay. And so I brought it up with fellow, uh, homeowner, Marco Balletti. Um, and he's like, no, my, my grass is too long. It would take me a day. I give some kid 40 bucks.
He mows my grass a day. Okay. Okay.
He's like, I don't know how to touch any of this stuff. I go fair enough. I just, you know, I'm in this war with the bees.
And then as I was talking about the Cavaliers next year and the Pacers and MLB and NHL. Well, once I started to say my lawnmower didn't work, the phone lines light up like the fourth of July engagement radio. People are calling. They want to get on air with their suggestion. People are leaving me messages on whatever platform they can find.
People are calling Carlos. I don't want to be on air, but here's what I want you to tell Bart to do. And in one way I brought it up, like maybe sort of fishing for help. Like what, what should I do? Like, so I did bring it up in that way. Cause I, and I asked on air, I could have text Marco and said, Hey, do you know how to fix this? And I asked on air, but then the flood of people trying to help, it made me feel like a damsel in distress where sometimes, and I equate this to when I would be on a golf course, especially growing up.
Like if I'm out there, if I, it was without fail, the amount of times where I would be on a golf course or hitting practice shots and somebody would look at me and get all chubbed up that they could come help this young man with their practice tips that they learned in golf digest, which barely even helped them. But, and it just, it felt like it felt like that. It feels very, I don't, I don't want like invasive, not emasculated.
I mean, I asked him, it's okay to ask for help. It just feels like I was getting a lot of unwanted. I was just, it just felt, it didn't, I don't like it. And I know that I'm wrong cause I put it out there, but the, like, it just feels like they're, there's these people in the world that are like waiting to help you.
It should be good. They're those monsters, but the way they come, it's like, it's not, they're not doing it for me. They're doing it for some like, like they're not helping the baby bird fly again. They're doing it.
They have some sick fetish where they love helping baby birds. And this is what Larry David once termed like the pickle jar phenomenon or whatever. Everyone's got to come and help. Let me take a crack at that. Let me just get, let me tell you, I think I can loosen it, you know, and everyone's got their little, I kind of do it this way.
I kind of rotate it. You gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta really kind of like, you know, it's one of those things that I feel like the stereotypical male lives for this. Let me show you older gentlemen who have maybe gone through fatherhood and their kids are now gone or like not living with, you know what I mean?
And they're like, Oh, this is a chance for me to use my muscle memory again. Or I wish my kid would have asked me to fix a lawnmower so now I can help this guy just makes me feel like a 15 year old kid again on the golf course where I felt my most vulnerable in my life. You feel used like other people are using you in this situation. Okay. I do. And I don't, I shouldn't say that my feelings are invalid.
These are my feelings, but a lot of people would say, just take the help. You stupid idiot. No, here's the bigger question though.
I've not heard it yet. Did you like demean those who tried to help? Were you like, Hey bastards back off? I don't know, but I did slip into like, okay, this is a little unprofessional later on. And this goes to our greater conversations about, you know, social media and how I've been using it. Ignoring Twitter. There is, there is a different, there is a different cut on Twitter.
There's a different, it's a different thing. So somebody tweets me about my Facebook picture. He sees my Facebook picture, which I described to you, comes back to Twitter and say, how stupid do you think we're supposed to think you are? We clearly see you mowed a fresh strip of grass.
Your lawnmower's not broken. And I'm like fucking read where it says this was from last May. And so then I'm screaming at this guy over the radio, which is so unprofessional. Okay.
What hour I need this content. It was during our collar fold. It was our three. Okay. It's so unprofessional. I know it is. I think you can hear me know that, but I'm already swimming in the river full of shit. Now I have to pretend like it's a healthy river to swim in. I'm, I'm, I've already been, I'm already that deep in this, in this river.
It's very healthy. So I'm, I'm already that deep. Anything else you want to get off your chest? It sounds like good radio.
If that helps. Anything else I want to get off my chest? Just this t-shirt.
Now that's how you promote a YouTube stream. Don't see my nips. I bought this t-shirt for $2 at Mosher's in red granite in 2004. What is a Mosher's?
It's like a, it's like a discount thrift shop. All right. One thing I did hear you say the other night on the national airwaves was you did the thing, which is really important to do. Like you're, you're explaining why it feels conspiratorial about the NBA draft. You're going through it. And then you said, all right, let me just, if I was going to die, if I got this wrong, it's rigged or it's not rigged.
And of course you gave the correct answer. I think like that. It's not like, you know, if it was fun to talk about it's bonkers, the possibility of this is beyond probable. However, if this was the, these were the circumstances to get it wrong, it's not rigged.
Okay. And then the next guy called and he's like, Hey, same situation. I think it's rigged. One of us is going to die. One of us is fucked.
I do want to, this must exist. I was, uh, can I describe this as playing a game? I was playing a game with a buddy that was kind of built off of the NBA draft conspiracy theory and like, how quickly would your conspiracy theory bingo card fill up? Like, Oh, like, uh, like one of the fun examples was like, Bret Hart knew he was going to get screwed that night in this Montreal screw job wrestling reference grant. Um, Well, I, but I think what the draft is they do put, I mean, there's a lot that they have left and it came down to a coin flip between Dallas and Chicago. Although if Cooper flags going to Chicago and they're back on NBC and now you're giving Chicago and like, we would have thought conspiracy there as well.
And it is, it is. So like, do you hear the Zach Lowe thing where he described, as soon as the ping pong balls came up, like double digit number first 12, then it was 11. And then like they knew, it got to a certain point where the next number meant if it, I want to say Zach Lewis said, if it was number six, it was Dallas. If it was number seven, it was Washington, something like, no, it wasn't Washington Washington knew they were out. Um, I forget, but it was the odds of that top three were like 0.015%.
Crazy. But then Zach Lowe's commentary was like the people in the room were like, Oh shit, it's one of us. Like, cause, so, I mean, my point being as these ping pong balls with random numerical combinations are, it would be like Tim Donaghy proved you, you can rig a basketball game or games, you know, as an NBA draft lottery has more like, it's tougher to rig than we don't want the Kings in the NBA finals. We're like, you don't want the bucks. Well, and by the way, I'm much more prone to think that there was some shenanigans there and it's also different than like the Patrick Ewing draft because I saw, have you guys seen the video of it where it's literally like the frozen envelope theory is just that it's like there are 14 or whatever that one was rigged.
That one was rigged there. There's no combination of balls where you're like, okay, if this one comes here, it's like one of them had a, you know, one of them had that one. So you can't say I'm going to hit you with something you've never said before. Both things can be true at the same time. No, for real. Like both things can be true at the same time.
The current lottery system cannot be rigged. However, there have been instances in the past in which the guy goes, remember that Nate Jones guy. He's like, if you don't think, if you think it's rigged, you think that Ernst and young and everyone's like, uh, they've been sued before. Yeah. Well, let's, let's stay on these lines for a second for my first time.
Cause I do want to get to a Packers one actually. Um, and I do think we should revisit Yanis. This show must be a weekly occurrence, but of course, Nico Harrison did not know again, if I had to choose in one way, you know, and one way I did, but I think my try, my time traveler theory looks pretty good. It's very good. It's one of the only strange. I mean, I love it.
And it's regardless of the truth of it, it's a great fun concept for public consumption. But now here's my actual question for you. Who would you rather have on your team? Luca Doncic or Cooper flag, Anthony Davis, the 2029 first. And I'll also throw a max Christie.
Cause he's not, he's a, he's a fine piece. So you want Luca flag AD Christie and the 2029 2029 Lakers first, you would rather have what the Mavs now actually do have, which is flag AD Christine, the 2029 first that you would rather that package led by AD and flag or whoever wants to go first. I think the person wearing the Desmond Howard shirt should go first. I just, I wish Luca hadn't taken his team to the finals last year because if he hadn't, this would be such an easy answer.
I'd take Cooper flag and his Luca's kind of fat. He's cowherd would say Westbrook with a jump shot. Like we've watched the Celtics now kind of go down and their offense gets stagnant. Even when Tatum's cooking, it doesn't really get everyone else going, which isn't completely Tatum's fault. But like sometimes it's tough when one guy's doing everything and the one guy who's doing everything Luca is fat and he doesn't play defense, but he just took his team to the finals.
I mean, so it's, how do you justify that? How do you say, I would rather have the kid and the other things over the great player who just took his team to the finals. So for me, this would be such a slam dunk if he had like gotten bounced in the second round in a tough seven game series, even last year, you know what I mean?
Like I have a hard time with them seeing Luca not get a finals victory once, get them there, but not get it once that they think, Oh, that means he'll never do it. And you're right. He did get him there. Really?
I want to just add to that. So I think Grant, you're suggesting that your answer would be, would you rather have Cooper flag AD Christie 29 heart? Because you'd rather have Luca.
Am I correct? I still think I would rather take, I think I'd rather have what they have now. So I would rather have Cooper flag, but the thing is this is such a slam dunk. Like I'd be so emphatic about it. Oh, sure. If, but the finals appearance, like that's pretty cut and dry.
That's really difficult to ignore to minimize. You know what I mean? I do. And so my only two, two things I'll say that before I kick it over to Bart is I did recently see Luca Doncic rookie year footage. I mean, he's like 40 pounds heavier now. I mean, he is like, it was like, it was one of those things that I saw it going, went into it with no, you know, prior, prior, prior considering I was like, Whoa, like I, I'm, that was, it was an alarming visual like, and that was only seven, eight years ago.
So I can understand again, Nico Harrison, I can't believe that he got out to this degree from a terrible decision and it still doesn't excuse the horrible package he got back. However, it still doesn't mean that his absolute determination that imagine if he got more back, like he should have. Yeah. Like imagine if he just would have done it in the off season the right way and gotten what everyone thinks the bucks can get for Giannis. Then this looks different, right?
Well, yeah, yes. But again, if Luca had stayed, then ad doesn't go there. And then ad not a Mav doesn't tear his or whatever his injury was and miss all those games as a Mav. Then the Mavs probably make the playoffs at the very least. Don't get Cooper flag because they're not in the lottery.
I feel like making the play in tournament should eliminate you from winning the draft lottery. I agree. I agree.
Yeah, I've not heard that said or thought it, but that is an interest. Bring that up. Good job, Grant. You can do that too. Thank you.
You're welcome. So Grant, you're going with the flag ad package over Luca. So I think so.
So am I think I'd rather start with like, I'll, I don't know. Luke has been not like he's not got in our 10 years, but give me the kid who I can. He's ours. He's mine.
He's mine. Yeah. He'll have his career here. If you wanted to pivot now as the Mavs hard pivot hard, hard, hard pivot from your previous hard pivot, you could get stuff for Anthony Davis this off season. And you're like, Oh, like, let's go build this 1819 2021 year old team around Cooper flag, as opposed to having maybe varsity JV warrior style composition where you've got like, yeah, two timelines, two timelines. Yeah.
And this off season, there is a plethora and abundance even of young teams with a great core who are going to need a, you know, a big stick, like the no way Nico trades ad. That's his guy. He won't.
I mean, he won't get a video of that. Like it was going around. Kobe was telling ad about, Hey, keep the Unibrow.
Don't put glasses over the Unum. Nico Harrison's right between them. Oh, I did not actually notice that part of it.
USA or what was that? Yeah. There's a guy just sitting behind there. Cause he's Nike or whatever. Yeah.
And it's Nico Harrison. By the way, this is such good national radio fodder, but I sent you guys the, the job opening for the Lakers. Yeah. I don't know if I'm going to bring that up. That's fun.
That's fun. Two minute fodder that they're hiring a new head strength and conditioning coach. Well, it could be me.
I lost 40 pounds in two years. There you go for that much money. It's going to be someone like you, like what was the job listing? Like 200, 200. Yeah. Like in Los Angeles, by the way, if I'm a strength and condition, if I'm, if you're like, Hey, get this guy who makes $50 million to be healthy.
I'm like, I need a little more than 200 K one of them's Luca, by the way. Yeah. Like that's your job for that. Although what I've noticed, do you notice this, uh, with, with, with, when I try to lose weight, Paul, like, so I, sometimes I'll like have a bad night of eating or drinking or whatever.
That's bad in terms of a lot. And then the next day I'm like, wow, I weigh less than I thought I would. Cause it shows up the next day.
It's very annoying. It hurts in the opposite direction where you're like, I just had a great day yesterday. I can't wait to step on the scale. I had a great day last night, early dinner, intermittent fast, wake up, eat at noon, step on the scale before lunch. So morning weight. Yep. And the scale's like, it just said L O L that's lame. I'm sorry. No, I actually kind of like it actually. That's fucking stupid.
You'd rather, Bart, you'd rather have flag AD than you'd rather have Luca or yeah, I would. And if anyone's like, wait, he lost 40 pounds and he still looks like that. I'm not done.
I got a little ways to go lose another 20. Let me ask you this box fans see now I already showed skin once we've we've done all of the other scenarios and we will certainly revisit them depending on where this Yana storyline does or doesn't go. Sounds like the Eric names and the Jim Mozarskis and the Patrick Beverly's of the world all think that the honest is not going anywhere. Jim was throwing it around on blue sky, by the way, I check in over there, but I, the other day I was like, Holy shit, Jim, like he's saying it with his chest.
Trust your local beat guys was his message. Essentially. Like we know he Tom Silver steamed us. He's like, when there's something to know, I'll pass it along. You know, like that kind of thing.
It did actually not. That's actually yeah, quite good. I wonder if he like consulted him prior. He's like, well, how do you do this?
Tom? Well, do you think, um, and not to step on wherever you're going, but now Tatum's also hurt. It's crazy. So there's two teams next year that would typically be in the running to win the East or be competitive. And you know, if Yanis comes back, what you were, you're going to hope for a six seed kind of situation. Uh, but the Celtics, I don't know, they can still be a top four team, but like the East is bad. These stars get traded to the West. The West is the team winning these draft lotteries that we always think are rigged.
Yup. And now they're getting Cooper flag. Well, and again, the Celtics, even before this all happened, the report, and it just makes sense financially. They were not going to bring this team back next year. I think like the tax, probably like a Porzingis or a drew.
Sure. But now they're going to, they're going to strip this thing like pretty severely even before Tatum's injury. Let's let's even say that it is what you're saying. Let's say it's Porzingis and Derek white.
I don't know. Right. Porzingis and drew. They need white whites, Tatum insurance. Cause every time Tatum sucks, white is a 30 point game, but now you don't have Tatum and let's just say for the sake of the argument, you trade Porzingis and drew. So now you have Jalen Brown and Derek white, Sam Houser, Peyton Pritchard. Like is that, is that better than a five seed?
I don't think it is. Well, look who else is in the East. That's part of like, that's part of the magic, like figure it out.
I mean, they can't, the heat are going to go backwards. Yup. The Hawks are not the Hawks are the Arizona Cardinals and Trey young is Kyler Murray. That's a great analogy.
Thank you. So my question is for you is that we just answered like the Luca thing with versus 80 and Cooper flake. If the Mavs who reported for, first off, Giannis just asked Jim O is not going anywhere, but if Giannis changed his mind and we found out otherwise, and he says, let me get traded. And then Nico's like, Hey, I heard you honestly get traded. Uh, Cooper, like, again, the math doesn't work.
We're just playing a stupid high. You could throw in some salaries. I made it work. I did a trade machine thing the other night if you're curious, but you have 30 year old Giannis and Nico calls and says, Hey, like we'll figure out the other salary, but essentially it's Cooper flag for Giannis. I know Giannis just asked you for a trade. I'm going to beat whatever the rockets can give you. I'm going to beat whatever the whispers can give you. Um, the package for all intents and purposes, John Horst mean Nico Harrison is calling you and saying it's flagged for Giannis or John Horst should say.
I think you should say, wow. I am fully in the I'd rather forever a succeed. I am in the, I would rather cause I don't think if they, I don't think it's going to work. Giannis is what Giannis is now and still will be for multiple years.
I don't think Cooper flags ever reaching that. See, but I don't think that's the question, but okay, go ahead. So I would rather find a way and you know, names thing about a gap year, Colby and these other guys, which has been said countless times now of the Celtics, right? Like I had never thought of the concept of a gap year in the NBA. It was mentioned once with the bucks and now everyone's a cell. Well, the Celtics name, I'm pissed that people are taking my thing and not giving me credit. Yeah, no, you, yeah. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. I don't believe it. Somebody actually called the other day and was like, Hey Bart, this is like your, your thing about you, how you said Nico Harrison's a time traveler.
And I'm like, just that little bit of acknowledgement growing me up so fucking hard just to have someone acknowledged something I say. Well, so to be clear about my question though, I said Giannis has asked for a trade and Nico calls and makes the call. But I don't think Giannis is going to ask for a trade. Well, then he's going to ask for a trade in the same way. Devante Adams asked for a trade. His heart's not in it.
He's not, the heart's not into the trade request. Yeah. And there was a report from that scoop B guy. Yep. He's like, Giannis would prefer to stay in the East, maybe nets and Raptors.
Oh, that's interesting. You know, who else is in the East? The fucking Milwaukee bucks.
I think he would run a stay in the East cause I'm with you and I'm going to bang the swimming drop, bang it every time I can. This guy sits there at swimming, mostly unbothered where my child and another child are coloring. They're sitting with him.
And even me and this other guy don't go and like fawn over, like the respect that they get and the privacy, like, yeah. Oh, it's Giannis. I get it. You're going to do that. This is the, this is the city that I don't know. I don't know, man. He's he can leave Milwaukee, never, but he's going to be right back doing the same shit that grant and I do where we want to, we would like, we would, we would die tonight just to be in Dell's for four hours in lacrosse.
Yeah, I would. You notice how all of the former players who have come out on all the shows and podcasts to talk about Giannis's situation are all like, don't do it like Dwight Howard and mellow. And there's others, but it just seems like there's a lot of former NBA players. And this is, we romanticize the past as Bart just kind of hinted at, but like, I think there's a lot of former NBA players who look back and say, I had it so good in this spot, or I miss what it was when I was there and I left to chase this or to chase that. And then that kind of just sent me down this path of looking for something.
I didn't even know what I was looking for. Right. And I, again, like if there's a slam dunk spot that Giannis loves, where he feels like he can win without a doubt, when at a higher level than in Milwaukee, and it's a city that he likes with teammates that he likes a market that he likes maybe. But I just think like so many of these other options are like, okay, you're, you might end up in a marginally better situation, but you're going to end up in a place you don't like as much. And I think that's why all these former players are coming out. It's like, Hey, I know it sounds appealing, man, but don't do it. Like you got a great thing going. Just have that be your thing. Yeah.
It does seem that way. I'm gonna ask you one more. And then I hope you guys will keep chatting.
I apologize for this being a short one for me. I know it's kind of been discussed at local sports levels a little bit. And but I'd have to kind of hear your thoughts on this. Enzo Amore would describe the Packers wide receiver room as S A W F T soft. Is that a wrestler? Yeah. But anyway, the Packers wide receiver room is pretty soft. Mm hmm.
Well, Grant's mixing it up with Watson's dad. That's awesome way to go. He blocked me. And I'm so sad because every time I would reply to him, he'd blow up and look like an ass. And then people would like my tweet and follow me.
It was just a guaranteed like eight to 10 followers. Some good engagement. What did you tell him yesterday? What did you tell him yesterday? Mr. Well, first of all, I like addressing him by his full name.
Great. Like Mr. Washeed was shed. Have you? Because it's funny. I don't know.
I it's like, I think I said, do you ever like, think about putting your phone down and just going on a walk? And he blew up. He went to the parents basement thing. And then, yeah, dude, I wish I worked out in my parents basement. That's the fucking dream. You're much money. I'd money. I would say.
I don't think that the Packers wide receiver room is soft. It's something that I stumbled on to Bart. Do you ever, are you ever wandering through the wilderness of your show? And out of nowhere, you stumble onto something and you're like, yeah, I had one this week. I've already forgotten what it was, but I did have one where like, you feel like out of body where you're looking at yourself and yourself is giving you like a, you fucking did it, man. There it is.
I'm so proud of you. And the universe just kind of lines up for you. So the Jayden Reed thing, and then Elton Jenkins, right?
Kind of. And this week on the show, been playing coordinator audio because Stenovitch and, and, uh, halfly and Versace and everyone spoke and Gooty spoke not that long ago. And there's just so much commentary from all the Packers officials about like, we want competition. Yeah, we want that.
And then the beats like, what about Rashid Walker? And Stenovitch is like, yeah, fuck yeah. We want him to work for his job.
Like we don't owe him shit. Like they're just up there. Like we want all of these guys fighting. And I, I just feel like they've been so brash and obvious about how they're constantly trying to replace everyone or upgrade every spot and they should try to replace everyone and upgrade every spot because that's how you should call the team. But you don't need to yell it in their face. And the analogy I used was breaking bad when it was clear that Gus wanted to get rid of Walt and stick Gabe in his place.
And what they do, they shot him in the head. You know what I mean? Like you can try to replace these guys with someone better and cheaper, but just be a little more sneaky about it. And like Elton Jenkins sees the writing on the wall, loud and clear, like no matter how sneaky you could be, he's got no guaranteed money left, but with Reed it's or like Rashid Walker, some of these other players, like, could you just lie or just don't tell the truth? You don't have to lie.
Just don't loudly tell the truth. It seems like the receiver Corps was very, or at least the fans were like the, the, the way I was feeling last year was, and Jordan loves said something too. Why do we need a number one receiver? They're all number ones. Now it feels like these guys are dying to have their roles be defined.
Yeah. Like, yeah, if I'm not the number one, but where am I? I mean, you just drafted two receivers in the top three first three rounds. Well, I actually really like see of me in training camp of last year, I really liked what Jordan loves said. However, the season concluded with none of them stepping up to the level that you would say that's the guy reads, not our number one receiver. I don't care how that gets spun by Drew Rosen house to Adam Schefter. Who is it?
It's golden by default because no one else has done that yet. They all had a chance Dobbs quit for a week. Yep. Dontavian wicks. I still like wicks and read a lot, but they dropped the ball.
I do too. Again, they had this chance with a wide receiver room that was asking, begging someone to do it and none of them did. So you draft a first round wide receiver, man, Christian Watson dropping that pass in Minnesota, the ramifications of that. I'm telling you, cause he's the bonafide number one. He probably never gets hurt.
Rogers is probably still here. Healthy mind, healthy body, less stress about the drop. Doesn't lead to this. Dad doesn't feel like he needs to get all active on social media. I like that. I just couldn't imagine like if my son was in the NFL at that position, I don't, I can barely, I barely stand up for myself anymore.
I don't, I can't, I don't want to ruin his life. Like my mom once threw something and on the WSSP Facebook page back in 2016 and someone's like, Oh my God, is this part's fucking mom defending him? I'm like, mom. And she's like, okay, I get it. I get it.
It's like Jason Tatum's mom outside the x-ray room talking shit about the ma the magic a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. It's like, I, and I get it. It's the parental instinct. You would know, don't you two speak to that. Don't you feel that inside you? Yeah.
You just put in, you couldn't do it publicly in that. You just, you just kind of can't, you're making it worse. Like who do they agree when they kept showing Gary Trent senior and that game that junior was having a big day and he's just like stone cold, locked in, watching his son. Like that was fucking awesome. Yeah.
It is awesome. You know what I like? I don't mind the parents, but I like when they show the parents and they're like, they're just like, you know, normal. Yeah. You know what I don't like is I don't like with all do when a brewer has his first game.
Oh no. 12 people are there from the family. Oh, you're going to do the whole, like, you don't like the Sophia minute interview in the crowd thing. What I don't like about it is that is a very unique and glorious moment that I think the family and the players, they all get detached from like in the same way where the first time I ever shot a football game to be on WKBT, I stopped the party we were at. So everyone could look at the touchdown. I shot a DeSoto scoring a one yard rush from a shitty fucking angle. Was it an end round to the pylon? It's just a gut. You can barely see the guy cross.
Can barely see the goal line. But I'm like, I'm like, uh, like, wow, I've made it. And here I am on national radio between hours three and four, right as I'm about to start and I'm thinking, I tell Carlos the amount of money I would pay to not have to do this fucking 60 minutes. Hey, one more thing that I'm going to run. You lose that. You guys again, keep talking. Yes, sir.
I just have one Brewers thing for granted. Are either of you Harry Potter people? Yes. Okay. Did you see that Tom Riddle has committed to the badgers? Yeah. Rules. I would very much.
And I mean, it's very, I told this to my wife. Here's what I would do. I would be a character. Tom Riddle is spoiler alert.
Earmuffs. Tom Riddle was Voldemort's name when he was a child at Hogwarts. Um, I would absolutely as the announcer 100%, I'm not bluffing. It's just what I would do. I would the whole season say, only refer to him as, you know, who, until someone said, is he doing like a thing because he's not allowed to say Voldemort's name and he's Tom Riddle.
And I was just wondering if you had any thoughts about how quickly until someone would be like, I know what you're doing. Don't do that. I feel like Harry Potter's pretty Bart. Have you not seen it? Is it? I know that. I mean, I know what a Voldemort is. I think he's trolling. No, I'm not Harry. I got nothing on here. The MCU grant.
He has no idea. Oh God. Harry Potter was the original MCU. Oh, not MCU dude. Superman looks fucking good. It was awesome. That trailer is good.
When the iron heart trailer came out, I'm like, Oh God. All right. That's my Tom Riddle bid for the day. I appreciate that. Paul. I'll talk about Tom Hiddleston.
He's great too. All right. Bye guys. Goodbye, Paul.
The boy who lived, you really never spoke. Okay. It's not that big of a deal.
It's been out a while. Um, I do have one Brewers thing to bring up to you. Sure. But I would first like to remind people about our savings at happy place, hemp.com, or the promo code is Bart 25% off each and every order at happy place hemp.com that seltzer business is booming, booming, and I see him and you know, there's you can buy stuff at the stores now.
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hemp.com. I see a lot of people. You tweeted it like game two about this is the least fun brewers team of your life. Uh, they did win the day against the guardians nine to five. They did.
So they are now what 20, 20 and 23, 21 and 23, 20, 23 Reese Hoskins, five RBIs powered the way for the crew. Hmm. Um, do you still think they're not fun? Yeah. They add so much anger into my life. Uh, and the significant others, the women of all of the brewers fans in my group group chat should be lucky that this team sucks the way that it does because it gives us an outlet to absolutely unload so then I don't have to, you know, bring that frustration home with me.
Yeah. They're awful. Yelich can't do anything. Contreras actually had a fine day today, but he hasn't been able to do anything.
He's playing through a broken finger, which would be one thing if he was playing well. Cheerios, you know, kind of sophomore slumping. Um, and Caleb Durbin, Caleb Durbin might be my least favorite brewer. I try not to be personal, but this team is making it personal. That's how much I don't like them. Caleb Durbin is like the offensive profile of Sal Freelich, which is not great, but also a sh a complete and total shit defender.
So I, I still think it's funny. Like this team will bleed runs in the field and I'll see the tweets. It's like uncharacteristically sloppy from the brewers. It's like, this is a team you guys built. No one made you people. People want to yell about Mark on Osceo. Nobody, nobody put a gun to Matt Arnold's head and said, trade Devin Williams and get Nestor Cortez and Caleb Durbin back.
Like no one, no one made him do that. How many closed door meetings have they had? Two and hold on.
I can get you the exact answer. It's reading Andrew Wagner's story and Adam McCalvey story. I don't pick favorites. Uh, meeting, meeting, uh, the second team meeting and a three week stretch. I know they had one before this last three weeks stretch, but two and three weeks. So some, I saw someone say like, yeah, typically teams that do this, uh, they don't really turn it around.
I mean, I can give you a lot of stats because, because the thing is it's so early. I was listening to, uh, another evening drive show in the state of Wisconsin. They were talking about the brewers and their chorus over the last two weeks has been, we don't even know what they are yet. Like, is it a show that we like or don't like how many shows do I listen to Bart? Right.
I am the same battlefield as me. No, not even close. Uh, and it's like, we don't even know a Bruce fans. Just sit back and wait and see. It's like, you don't wait and see with the team this bad when you, when you figure the blowouts and the run differential and the losing streak and the shutouts, like teams that profile like this, albeit through the first two months of the season, don't turn it around. The closed door meeting is more anecdotal evidence, but yeah, teams that often throw closed door meetings in the clubhouse multiple times over a two or three week stretch. Like, yeah, that's, it's typically not a sign of things to come. I've been letting Yellich have it on my show. Not that that means anything, but in my little two hour time window, like the other day, I'm like, yell it.
You don't get to, here's what you don't get to do. And you talked about Rogers at the end on your daily show. Um, how often did we hear this? Who's who's rallying the troops who's firing people up and then people would defend Rogers say, well, he's not that kind of guy. He's not a rah rah guy.
I think most, most would say the same of Yellich. So it's like, well then find a different way to do it because just like being a wall, you don't have to be a rah rah guy. Like you have to be a rah rah guy and you look like an idiot.
Yeah. You don't have, you don't have to be a rah rah guy. You can just go up to someone before the game and be like, Hey, lock the fuck in today. Let's fucking go. You don't need to like get in front of the clubhouse and say, we're the Brewers.
Give me a B. Give me an R. You don't need to be in the clubhouse waving the towel. Oh, we miss Willie Adonis. Yeah. If Willie Adonis not being here has made everyone from baseball is fun to baseball is sad. That's not a Willie Adonis issue. Correct.
That's just something else. Now, are we going to see manager Ricky Weeks more sooner than later? Are you asking if they're going to fire Murph?
I don't know. I just don't want to, I don't want to see, you know, I was hanging on to Murphy too long and then Ricky Weeks doesn't have a chance. And we say, Oh, Biden, I mean, Murphy should have stepped down sooner. You know, what the fuck?
Let's write 20 books about it. I was thinking, who's the Wisconsin version of George Clooney in this analogy, Gruber, Charlie Barrett, Charlie Barrett saw Pat Murphy. Murphy didn't even recognize him. I thought you were going more like the, like the Jim Leonard route where it's like, it's gotta be him.
Like I don't, I don't think Weeks is anything special. I look, this team stinks. And the problem is, and this was a problem last year and I kept bringing it up and I bring it up on my show all the time. Like people have this, this memory of last year's team that was all slap, Dick Bunsen, stolen bases and smoke and mirrors and Murphy ball. And they did some of that and it was fun, but you know what? They hit home runs and I know people are like, ah, I don't want launch angle and analytics, but like you need some of that. Like Adamas had 35 Hoskins had 30 yellow when he was healthy, was hitting bombs Contreras before he broke his finger.
And again, for some reason played through it, had a couple of home runs, like perform like an MVP before he broke his finger and then played through it. Like that happened last year. And they're not doing that right now.
So people can't look at Pat Murphy, like just do the bunting thing. Like they're trying. And that's why this is so fucking painful is because like they can't get the ball out of the infield and that's not on Murphy's fault. Like look at this roster, dude. They called up Andrew Monasterio and a majority of the fan base was like, finally, like that's where they are. That's where they are, man.
That's not on Murphy. Like the Packers bring back some guy you're like, ah, fuck. Who was the one? James Jones in 2015 is too good.
Yeah, he's too good. Uh, so yeah, we're, we're bringing back Tony Fisher. I don't remember. Um, he'll get to her participant.
I'm pretty sure. Well, grant always a pleasure. No, the pleasure is mine.
Bart. Uh, it's a pleasure to chat. Sometimes I wish I could contribute more when you and Paul talk about wrestling or your Marvel universe, but that's fine. The MCU. Yeah.
The MCU. Uh, I do appreciate the time. Thank you. Part of it's nice. You guys got your little Harry Potter thing in there. That's great. That was so brief. And you pouted through the whole thing.
You didn't, you didn't, but inside I was doing that. Yeah, of course. I'm not in on this. This is not part driven. Well, it is your podcast. So that's fine.
It's the Winkler. Hey, also I w it was requested that I ask you something. You don't need to do it on this pod, but someone needs to speak for, for whatever reason, the W S S P community has decided to go back and relitigate what happened with Milwaukee pro soccer, because I think it's been like a year since they've tweeted and people have questions.
So if you can do a tell all at some point, maybe a YouTube short, those things go loud, a lot of, they're a pain in the ass to make, but they get a lot of views, but maybe that would serve your, I don't know. I don't know if I'm on the payroll or not. Well, it's probably symptomatic of whatever brought that thing down. I did.
I had the, the time card link saved and I couldn't get in the other day. So maybe probably a pretty good sign. It's the 20, 25 version of your key fob, not letting you into the building. That's for somebody else to do the research. I don't know any more than anybody else. Interesting. Okay. That's fine.
I just doing my, my duty to the group chat. This was fun. Thank you.
The contact there that I had is no longer there. Sure. Prior to whatever's going on now. Sure. Anyways, they were supposed to start play this fall. Yeah.
I spent multiple days at Summerfest selling merch. Okay. I got to go. I do as well. This is fun. Thanks. Thank you. Grand Bill's and Paul and all of you for stopping into the Winkler verse.
