The Show Within The Show

Good morning, everybody. Really good evening, everybody, as this is the show within a show. So I am going to be doing my Infinity Sports Network show, the Bart Winkler show nationwide. And during the commercial breaks, I am going to then be recording for my podcast into the Winklerverse found here, wherever you get your podcast, and also on our YouTube channel, R being mine.

There's a lot that I want to get into on tonight's show, talk about some football, talk about some NBA. It's weird because I think the biggest sports story of the day is that the Pope is a White Sox fan, that he is not a Cubs fan, that he is from Chicago, that there's a new Pope. Somehow that seems to be the biggest story of the day in sports even. And he's an American Pope and he was an underdog story. So a lot of it is pretty incredible.

Regarding that, you know, as me a devout Catholic that I am having gone through the trials and tribulations of CCD and eventually becoming a C and E where I only go on Christmas and Easter. Funny that the Cubs fans were celebrating right away that he is a Cubs fan. They cheered a little too early, sort of reminiscent to when there are pop flies at Wrigley.

And they think their home runs right off the bat. So I will be recording throughout the show tonight. And that will be the Friday morning podcast.

And we are set to go in three, I think, two. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Bart Winkler Show.

I am Bart Winkler. Segment one in the books. It is 921. Ran a little long with segment one as I like to do. You can hit the breaks at 15, 30, and 45. 15 and 30. I hit two breaks.

But I like to hit them at like 22 and then 46. So the last segment is like, hey, it's the Bart Winkler Show. We're brought to you by, we'll be right back, is what I like to do.

Talking about some NFL teams that could take a leap. I know it's May 8th, but Horvat was on the show last night and gave us a good hot take. Horvat, I would have Horvat on this show every night if I could. In fact, we work for the same company.

I would love to do a show with Ryan Horvat. But I don't book him. Sometimes he'll listen to me on the way home and get so heated up that he'll call in. I've been talking a lot about Wisconsin sports this week. I've been talking a lot about how I hate the Pacers. I mean, the same, if you're into the Winklerverse and you know that I hate the Pacers, I don't shy from that on the Infinity Sports Network. In fact, I probably go too far.

Like I should probably shut up and be a little more professional. But you know, last year when the Pacers beat the Bucks, we did not like that because they beat us and we were sad and we were hurt. This year, they beat us, but I'm not hating on the Pacers because they beat my favorite team. I'm hating on the Pacers because every team they beat, they're injured. They did that to the Knicks last year and they did it to, or they're doing it to the Cavs right now. So I'm eager to see how that series changes. You know, they were on the road. So game three in Indiana, we know what that Indiana crowd's like.

They care about their Pacers and they know everybody hates them. So I'm going to do a Bartle meter tonight where I have a AI machine that gives me answers to things. And I'm going to rank which teams it would benefit the NBA the most if they were to win a championship this year. So I'll give you the results of that. I've got a longer break coming up, but I cannot jump back on this. I have some sports minutes to record that air throughout affiliates across the country. And I've written them, but I forgot to record them prior to the show. So the next time I speak with you will be, well on this, it will be in seconds, but I'm going to do about another half hour of the show and then come back in. It is the show within the show recording a podcast of into the Winkler verse while I am on the Bart Winkler show.

That's either an incredibly hustle thing to do or a very lazy way to put out a podcast. You be the judge and we're back and we're brought to you by happy place hemp promo code is Bart 25% off each and every order with that promo code, the gummies, the tinctures, everything else that helps you remember when I had gout and I rubbed the cream on me. That's a fun thing to say. You guys remember when I had gout the seltzers, man, that is a big industry. I love all these studies like, Oh, millennials aren't drinking booze anymore. Well, yeah, because of all these products, they're not, not, they're not raw dog in life, man.

They're they're going out there and, and having fun in a more safe and chill way. Happy place hemp.com promo code Bart 25% off each and every order. I'm going to do the Bart-O-Meter now. And the Bart-O-Meter is my list. It's, you know, it's a list.

So it's the Bart-O-Meter. So it's going to be the eight teams left in the NBA playoffs and what the NBA would prefer to see as the winner. I'm going to put Boston last and use the angle about they make a lot of threes and this would get the analytics.

Colin Cowherd was saying, Manalytics are back playing man ball, which is so lame, but mwah, so beautiful. I think the Pacers are going to be next for me, but I kind of want to put them higher because you know, Halliburton and the McAfee angle, it's gonna, it gives them a heel. I think I might put the Pacers higher.

Plus if we get Nick's Pacers Brunson and Halliburton squared off on Monday night raw that one time that was sweet. I'm going to have to put them higher. Nuggets have won so they could be lower. Should the Pacers be ahead of the Cavs? Timberwolves, I'm going to put the Pacers at five. So it's going to be eight Celtics, seven Nuggets, six Cavs, five Pacers, Timberwolves four Thunder three Warriors. I'm going to put Thunder, Warriors two and Nick's one. I'm gonna keep Warriors at two.

Warriors is weird, but the global brand, especially with Steph is so big that NBA and a lot of it too, you got to think about the NBA going on NBC next year with those rights. So that is going to be something. So that'll be the Bartle Meter. And I do that every Thursday night at 10 o'clock central. It is moving to Tuesdays if you listen to the show. So write that on your calendar. We're going to do that September 2nd.

So it is moving. So Bartle Meter coming up, we're coming up on hour two as this is the show within the show, a behind the scenes look at what I do in breaks. Well, typically what I do in breaks is not a podcast.

Typically what I do in breaks is scan the web for more news, take pictures of receipts that I picked out of trash cans, watch Facebook reels about to buy. If you're prepping, not saying I am not saying I'm not not saying I'm not 958. All right. Bartle Meter. I made an audible.

I put the warriors at three and the thunder at two. And I did that on the fly. So then I got confused and then I stumbled into that one a little bit. I also stumbled into the segment because I tried to play a soundbite of the Pope's brother saying that he's a White Sox fan.

And I screwed up and I was left hanging there with the audio not playing. That kind of bothered me a little bit. Warriors loss.

I'm going to bring that up here in a moment. Also, Paul Pierce. You know how people are like, you know, when Chuck was like, if the Bucks Brewers win the central, I'm going to walk across Lake Michigan. Or if I think I said once I'd eat a shirt.

Never ate a shirt. But Paul Pierce walked 20 miles from his house to the FS1 studios because he said the Celtics weren't going to lose. And then they did. So that was pretty cool.

Carlos Ortiz. Yes, we are doing a show within a show as if I don't have phone calls to scream and rejoins to get ready. So I was just reviewing the segment. I'm really pissed that that audio was low.

That really bothered me. Yeah, in hindsight, if I would have been, you know, given the heads up, I would have gotten it and just played it myself. But I figured you were going to throw it to the bar to meter soon.

So I was like, Oh, forget it. Yeah, I am in a different studio because this one is better for the angle. Is that you behind you?

What? Is that a picture of you behind you? Who's on the wall there? Oh yeah, I didn't even notice that's me. It doesn't really look like you. Because I don't have a hat on. I don't have a hat on. Now look. Oh, yeah, it's you. See the forehead gleans.

No does it ever. Who's on the line, right? Greg from Michigan. He can marinate for a second. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna you have those Pierce cuts. Yes.

And this is what you're going to put up for your people to consume on YouTube. Yeah, it's the show within a show. All right. I'm glad to have been a part of it. All right. Like this is a apropos debut for me in the into the winkle verse. Winkler her.

That's what I said. Let's do a Marvel one soon. Blaze.

That'd be great. Finally something I'm good at. All right, I'll talk to you in 15 seconds. All right, well, I'm going back to work.

Carlos Ortiz. Look at that. Look at us.

Look at us guys hanging out. I'll be back. It's what is it right now? 1025 I'll be back probably in 15 minutes.

All right, we're coming at you 1038 on a Thursday. Just had another segment and now I get I get like five minutes between segments. When the update hits, I get another minute and a half.

Marco's doing the update. And so it buys me a little bit more time to research or go get a water or I do research like that. But things are happening throughout the show. And you know, that's one of the fun parts. But also crazy parts is during the show. Things are happening. You got to react.

I'm not the only one working these crazy hours. Let's talk to Tim Shea for a few minutes. Tim Winkler, I just booked a vacation where the Badgers play? No, this is a brewer vacation.

I'm going to Minnesota. When is that? May? June.

June 20th. Oh, they play the Cubs and then? Yep.

Yeah, I might try to go to Chicago that game or that week. Take the boy. Take the boy. Me? You're gonna take me?

Aren't you my boy? Yeah. So you're working right now, too? Yeah, my computer's sitting over there playing the show. You don't really work, do you?

Yes, I do. So what are you waiting for? I just I've got pretty much almost everything done.

So I got to wait till just make sure no nothing breaking happens, you know, in the next hour, then I can start sending my stuff. Were you a lot of your news stories about the Pope? No, no. Oh, wow. Yep. You know, he's not a Cubs fan. I know.

He's a White Sox fan. Yeah. I'm sort of. What are you talking about? Bartle Meter was about NBA.

Did the Timberwolves win? Yeah. Okay. And I you know, I'm doing a show within a show. Yeah.

And. I have flubbed a few more times than normal. Is this the first time you're doing this?

A show within a show? Yeah. Yeah, I've never done this. And are you live on Facebook or whatever it is?

No, this is getting posted Friday morning. Okay. All right. Because that should be your next thing is to go live and have people watch you.

I don't know. Yeah, but then I thought about that. But then for four hours, like do a reaction, because it's one thing if I was airing my show and then because some of the shows will air and then it's like five minutes of a break. Yeah. But if I did it this way, it would be like every hour I'm only doing this for nine minutes. Am I going to go live 12 separate times?

True. Now, in the final hour of the show, because it hits midnight and my step counter resets, I run around the station. Okay. So I may take people on that journey. Oh, can I join too?

I think I'm only going to be able to do that one on my phone. I'll be up. I don't know how long you'll be up tonight. I don't know.

You want to go somewhere after? Is anything open? Maguires.

How long does it stay open? George Webb's. George Webb's serve booze? We can go to Maguires.

He's open until two, two 15. I don't have cash. That's fine. I'll buy you a drink. We'll talk. We'll talk offline.

I'd get a drink at Maguires. Okay. I have to high tail it out of here. I got to post this before the morning. How about next time?

What else? No, tonight I'm off. I'm off at Maguires. I'm off.

No Maguires. I need cat like next week. Cause I'll cash next week. I'm going to need more time. Like you need to do another, like a full pod one day. Cause I want to talk about the brewers and all their mess up so far. Let's do it next week.

Like a brewer's club show six weeks in. Yeah. We can do one in the afternoon.

Also let's go to a day game soon as well. Do you hear that? Yeah. There's three minutes left. Two minutes and 30 seconds.

That's pretty good. That means I only got a seven minute segment coming up. I called last week and it must, it was at the end of your show. So they weren't taking callers, but I see that I was on hold forever. I'm like, Oh, well you were on hold. No one told me he never talked.

He never picked up Carlos. At least I'd pick up the phones. Yeah. Okay. I'm not going to Maguires tonight. I'm out for a minute. I'm out of Maguires. Okay, fine. But I'll go next week. I don't know. The old Bart behind you would go to Maguires. The old bar behind me would be drunk right now. What do you want to talk about?

You got one minute and 30 seconds left. What do you think of the new Pope? Chicago boy. Sounds like he's, sounds like a, it's a good, good pick. My, my mother-in-law's with us for the week and she grew up in Chicago and it was like, I mean, I thought like the Packers won the Superbowl in my house today.

In my MLB the show franchise league, I traded Christian Yelich and Freddie Peralta for Aaron Judge and the Yankees took it. Why? I don't know. All right. Well, good to see you.

I guess this was very productive. The calls I have on the screen are Brent wants to tell me that Jim, Jim Rooker paid off a bet. Rocker. John Rocker. John Rocker. Jesus. And Robert wants to talk about the Pope.

It's a sports story. I always listen every night I do, you know, for like an hour and I always text you something. All right. Well, I'll see you, but I won't be tonight. All right. If you're going to do another one of these, send me a link. I'll join again. We'll figure it out. Double dip.

I'll do a Brewers one with you next week. Yeah. Okay. Goodbye. Goodbye. Big Bart behind you. All right.

It's a 10 54. I'm actually not going to talk here. I do need to do a little bit of prep. Um, so I'll be back in a minute. All right.

Now I'm back now, although I shouldn't be, uh, it's 11 21. I'm in the, uh, kind of the middle of hour three, four hour show, and I have exhausted all of my topics for the night. Um, I thought the Bartle meter would stick, or at least get people engaged. Nobody really wants to discuss, um, which NBA team is best to win the trophy. So I did just kind of kick around which NHL team would be best to win the cup.

And, um, I think a Canadian side in there would be good, but we'll see. I've got the call screener up here. And so now is when I intently watch that and think, okay, who's calling somebody, somebody call right now. We got, uh, a kid named Gary, but Carlos thinks that might be a prank. So I'm not going to take him some nights, some nights I take him and see what happens tonight. I'm just kind of not feeling it. I do have a lot of kids call me.

I don't know what it is. Two things that are different, um, with taking calls, then being on a WSSP way more kids call than I would have expected. And nobody says like, thanks for taking my call. They say, thanks for having me on. It's a very subtle thing, but they say, thanks for having me on rather than, you know, thanks for taking my car. I'm not having you on, having you on would mean I'm you're my guest. I'm having you on.

This is a, this is not that we are just talking. Although what are some topics I did not get to, uh, Derek Shelton got fired by the pirates. We could use that to shit on the pirates ownership. I guess I've been wanting to talk about, uh, the careers between Westbrook and Hardin, but I feel like that one's kind of gone by the wayside. I could talk more about the warriors.

It probably will do that. Got a guy here that wants to talk Celtics. So that'll be good. Um, yeah. Kind of tapped out on NFL.

I done a little bit of that tonight, major league baseball. I don't know. It's tough. It's tough. Some nights there's less to talk about than others. Um, I'm a pro I'll get it done, but yeah, it'd be nice if there was like a football game or some shit on tonight. You know what I mean? It's football. That's all we know.

I could shit about how I was a soft invited to a sports media conference. Hey, drop by. Yeah. Okay.

I will drop by. Does that mean, does that mean I don't have to pay still unsure about that one? All right. We'll return at the next break. Oh, wait.

The, uh, Celtics collar drops. So now I'm screwed warriors. It is. All right. Um, now it is 11 44 at night. I have one more segment in the third hour.

I'm going to double dip here and I'm just going to record for the podcast, the show I'm going to, I've got one microphone for the computer and then I've got the lap there, the microphone for the show. So I'll be talking into this microphone primary, and I'm going to talk about the Celtics because I don't know what the hell version of this team we're seeing and we never saw that against the bucks. So I'm going to try to rile up. We're out in Boston the last two hours, I believe every night.

I don't know. I haven't riled up Boston as much as I thought I would. Maybe, maybe I come on and they're just like, screw this cheese head. So we'll see. We'll see if anyone's listening from Boston.

Um, cause this version of this team, it's, it's insane. Um, so you'll hear that Carlos is playing a bumper. He's got a Joe Missoula soundbite about how he didn't call a timeout.

They just wanted to run Tatum down the line lane, court to court. So that'll play. And then a liner, which you can hear, but you can sync this up like wizard of Oz and pink Floyd.

If you want, that'd be fun. Here we go. It is the Bart Winkler show.

I am Bart Winkler, Carlos Ortiz alongside Marco Belletti. You heard him on the updates. He's a Knicks fan, an optimistic one. He can't think in his deepest of downs that they're thinking a sweep. Although if the Knicks do win game three, what kind of Celtics team is going to show up in game number four for me personally. And I do, I really, really, really, really do have to talk about my fandom and how it relates to a lot of these teams in the East, because it's affected how I feel about these teams in the East.

I don't think this is the kind of a existential thing I have here. I don't, you know, I could talk, I can talk Celtics Knicks with you, but I also like to talk about it from my perspective as a fan. And as a fan, my perspective is I've rooted against the Celtics a lot. And the one thing that sucks right now is that my kid likes the Celtics because that was the team he was on. And so I'm watching the Celtics lose to the Knicks and I'm all pumped up. And then I know he's at home watching it and I know he's getting all sad and he gets into these games.

He likes the Bucks too. You know, that's good, but come on, man. I got to like lie to him already. I've already lied to him enough.

I got to lie to him about this. The Celtics, I don't understand where last year came from. I mean, last year they took care of the Heat in five, took care of the Cavs in five, took care of the Pacers. They were on a little magical run.

Nope. Sweep. And then beat the Mavs in five. The year before that they lost the conference finals to the Heat, which I don't think they should have at all. Remember that one?

Remember that one? They were down 3-0 and then they did come back. Yeah.

Yeah. They were down 3-0. They came back. They came back and everyone's like, oh my God, they're going to be the first team to ever come back from 3-0 because they put themselves in that position. They were getting rewarded for bad behavior.

They were going to, they were going to be cherished for the situation they got themselves in. Hey, yeah, guys, I didn't drown. Well, yeah. Well, you're the one that went into the deep end wearing a suit made of cement. It's hard to get back up from that, dude.

Yeah. Maybe could have thought of something better there, but still the year before that they lost to the Warriors. They lost to the Nets. They lost in the conference finals. They lost in the conference semis.

It's just been over and over and over a team coming up short. And then finally last year they won. So was that the team? Cause I thought I did think that was the team.

Banner 18. I thought that was the team. What I've said about the Celtics throughout the year this year is there is no team that I trust more to turn it on than Boston. So Boston can be down and then they can turn it on. No team can do that as well as Boston can. Every other team struggles. You think, well, there may be bad, but with Boston, they do have a switch.

They can turn it on. This is going to be the ultimate test of that. Cause now they're down 0-2. They're down 0-2 to a Knicks team who is playing their hearts out. They are playing their ass off. But are they in this position because they're coming back or are they in this position because the Celtics are playing bad or is it a little of column A and a little of column B? Hey, what do you think is going on here? Are the Celtics losing or the Knicks winning? Well, Bart, it's a little bit of both.

Yeah, maybe I should ask better questions than I guess. Game one, the Celtics went up 75-55. After that, they shot 23% from the field and 21% from three and 28 of their 39 shot attempts were three pointers. They had six turnovers. Game two, they went up 73-53. They then shot 17% from the field, 14% from three, half of their shots were from three and they went eight minutes and 20 seconds without a field goal. What is that team?

What is that team? There's been a lot of teams that wish you would have played like that against them. You're going to do it against the Knicks. Credit the Knicks, man.

Staying alive scrappy. And you knew after game one, they were down 20 and won the game. You thought, oh, if they are in that position again, they're going to be believers that they can come back and they were able to come back.

Joe Mazzulla, you heard him just there. They didn't call a time out. They just essentially, they had a play.

That field goal they made was Jason Tatum running coast to coast with a dunk. And he thought, I'm going to do that again. That's what you're going to do? This team, that's what you're going to do? Okay. So, and then nobody's like, well, I'll defend them this time.

Now I'm in. And then Bridges is like, oh, just kind of slink behind him. Good defense, block, game over.

What are you doing? This Celtics team last year was so dominant. It was a foregone conclusion that they were going to win the championship. The Celtics team this year, even though they did not finish first in the East, they were on a collision course with Cleveland where everybody's going to take Boston to win that series.

That's how it was going to go. And now you've got a team that doesn't even look like, they certainly don't look like the team that won last year. They don't look like a team that won 61 games. They don't look like a team that even knows each other. They look like an all-star team thrown together. And they're playing like one too, with all this three point shooting.

Again, I got to credit Colin Coward. I thought I saw this. I thought this was the dumbest thing I've ever seen for four seconds. And then I thought it was brilliant because the Celtics rely on analytics. The Knicks are using Manalytics.

They're playing like men. Now I'm back to that. It might be dumb again, but it works.

It works. So what kind of Celtics team are we going to get in game three? Because right now I can see either. I can see a Celtics team that just has kind of resigned to Cancun. And I can see a Celtics team that, cause if I was a Celtics fan, all I would say is we're not going 15 for 60. We're not going 10 for 40.

We're a team that takes a lot of threes because it's analytically better and we make them. So if I was a Celtics fan, I probably still would have some optimism, some hope. And that's why Madison Square Garden needs to be as loud as ever.

People are paying $800 to get in and be quiet. So Saturday afternoon, man, it's going to be a nice day by me. I'm going to be locked in front of that television. You gotta be. You gotta be.

888-710-4-ISN. It is the Bart Winkler show. All right. And that was a segment and I got one hour to go and I got little on my mind. So I'm going to try to figure out what I'm going to talk about next. And then I'm going to go for a little bit of a jog. That's where you'll see me next. And now we're running.

Now it's going to look a little different. It's going to sound a little different, but this is what I do. And I've tweeted this out before, so I'm not speaking out of school here, but I run around the building. I take laps, take laps around the building because the step counter resets at midnight. And for about over a year now, I've been making sure that I get 7,000 steps a day. I tried 10.

That's hard. Seven's a good number. 7,000 steps is going to give me about 3.2 miles. I don't like that I'm already a little out of breath. I don't, maybe I don't run this fast.

Maybe I'll go to a light pace, but I've got two breaks in the last hour of the show. And so I just run around. I just run around the building and then I sit down and then I say, Carlos, play a long rejoin. And then I collect my breath. And I start the day with a thousand steps.

Now I was going to the gym after and like having 4,000 steps before I went to bed, but weather's a little nicer now and you can get them throughout the day. So we're humming along on the show. I got two more segments left. A couple of people called regarding the Celtics. One guy called and said that Paul Pierce walking was awesome.

And I agree. Finally someone in this business does something. Did I already tell you guys this? I don't know.

I don't know what his show and what is, what is this show? But we're always like, yeah, I think I did. I brought it up. Yeah.

Cause I talked about frames and I brought that up on air, but we're always like saying we're going to do stuff and then we never do it. So I'm glad he did that. And I'm glad it was Paul Pierce, but this guy said that Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett should go to Madison Square Garden in full jerseys. It will be a Willis Reed type thing. That made no sense.

And then he says, Paul Pierce should give one of the jerseys to your kid. I go, how are you connecting any of these dots, my guy? So two more segments left and then I will go home. No Maguires. Got to go home. Got a big day tomorrow. I got to mow the lawn. No Carlos tomorrow. So got to prep for the show without my Carlos crutch. And that'll be my Friday.

Jesus. I think I can walk it out here. All right, we'll do two more segments, wrap up the show and then catch my breath.

My God. And back in the studio, it would be appearing like I'm wrapping up the show, but I do have one more segment left, but I try to get the hell out of here as soon as possible. So I'm just gonna say goodbye now. Hope you enjoyed this semi behind the scenes look of the Bart Winkler show here on Into the Winklerverse.

Looks like Tim and I are doing a Brewers pod next week. Carlos and I are Marvel at some point. Thank you all for checking this out. And thanks for stopping into the Winklerverse.