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Our NC native QB is going to the NE Patriots

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April 29, 2024 3:31 pm

Evan Cohen, Unsportsmanlike/ESPN,  on his love for Drake Maye and excitement coming to New England; plus Evan’s opinions about this year’s NFL draft.

How did Evan make things weird when Drake Maye was picked by the New England Patriots? Evan tells us the behind the scenes story about what happened during the draft and did Drake Maye get him kicked out? How does he feel about Drake being a Patriot, as a Patriot’s fan? Which pick does Evan LOVE that everyone else hates? How does Evan think the Carolina Panthers did in this year’s NFL draft?  

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Visit us at capitalfinancialusa.com. I know you're a proud Patriots fan, are you? I know you're all in because apparently security needed to be called, that's my understanding, on Drake May.

How is it with your new quarterback? That's not false, what you just said. That is not false. Alright, let me explain myself because Adam Fairley had the right setup there, not that I'm judging, but I mean, well done by you. Alright, so here's what happened. So, I think it was last week, must have been Monday, Tuesday, I don't remember when it was, Tuesday of last week, Drake May was on our show. And I said to him specifically that if the Patriots draft, do you need to come on with us the next day?

And you know, he did the, Oh yeah, yeah, sure, whatever. And obviously he's got a million, a million responsibilities when he gets drafted. So we go to the draft Thursday night, we walk into the draft for downtown Detroit, 275,000 people are there, as you know, Adam. And I just walk in and I was with Michelle Swoman and Nuno, our producer, and we just keep walking towards the stage.

I'm like, okay, so like we're here at the stage and it never really occurred to me, this doesn't feel like the right location for us. So Caleb Williams gets drafted. He walked off the stage. The first person he interacts with is me who came up with a big line of congrats. So he and I are very close now walked off the stage and he goes the opposite direction because there were commanders fans there on the opposite side of the stage.

Then Drake May, of course, USC's own gets drafted. And I said to Nuno and Smalls, I said, all right, I got to go over and like kind of say hello, whatever. He comes off the stage. The very first person again is me. I say, Hey, you know, you were on with us this week. It was great to have you. Congratulations.

Really appreciate you coming on. And I did not want to sound like Lebron right now. Not one, not two, but three pats on the back. Oh, wow.

Yeah. You don't do the three. You do the one. Maybe you get to two like a, Hey, good job. I did three.

He smiled, kept on walking. All right. Was it rude to me? Just whatever.

I think nothing of it. Adam. Then two minutes later, a security guard comes up to me and says, excuse me, sorry, you can't be here. And I said, you as in me or like us. And they said, you can't be here. And I said, okay. And they looked at my past and they said, you cannot be here. And they just removed us from this area.

And like, you know, Smalls and Nuno followed me because they were not going to try to leave me high and dry here. So I can't confirm nor deny that Drake May may have gotten me kicked out of the draft. But it is possible Drake May got me kicked out of the draft because when I did the big congrats to Caleb, nothing happened.

Right. When I did the three pats on the back to Drake May, that's when I was bounced. I don't know what you and Victoria think on this. Did I get kicked out by Drake May?

Yes or no? It does sound like that is there's like a 75 percent chance that that is what happened. Also, we have had no mention of Chris Canty here.

So either Chris wants no part of you, Michelle and Nuno, or I think there's 25 percent that Canty got you kicked out of the draft. Interesting. OK, no, I'm going to tell you why. Excellent observation. And that is why Adam Gold is so great. OK, here's what. Now, conversely, he couldn't get in.

What's going to jump? Can't he had a family member that he had passes with and they were trying to get in the draft. And for whatever reason, they had the wrong passes to get in. So if you think about the unsportsmanlike team, OK, I mean, I think the fan rally. Right.

Right. What people hear every single morning with us. What happened to us last Thursday is one member couldn't get in the draft and one member got to get out of the draft. I'm not sure who had the worst night, but we were not necessarily represented well on Thursday. Well, first of all, you had the best night because you have a story to tell forever that forever you have a story to tell. So it's easy.

Who had the best night? And frankly, you guys mean you guys could have been kicked out anyway. Right. It might have had nothing to do with Drake, but it might have just, you know, somebody in a higher up just thought better of the situation after after three picks in the draft. Maybe your pass was only good for three picks.

That's true. We didn't we were not eligible for four. We were only eligible. Marvin Harrison Jr. may have gotten us kicked out. He didn't want the first person to greet him when he got off the stage to be me. I guess that's what we're saying. What was it?

Certainly an interesting night. That's more likely maybe even than Drake may. Marvin Harrison could have been worried. I'm not accusing I'm not accusing Drake may of actually kicking me out.

I'm asking the question whether or not he did. It is I think it'll be a 30 for 30. I'm sure. Coming up in in future years from from ESPN, Evan Cohen is joining us from on Sportsman like here on ESPN radio. Do you like the pick?

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Investment Advisory Services offered by Capital Financial Advisory Group, a North Carolina registered investment advisor. Well, you guys know him way more than I do, obviously. What I will say is, yes, I am excited. And the reason that I'm excited is because if everyone tells me how good he is, the concept of maneuvering the draft to move down to ultimately move back up to theoretically have drafted JJ McCarthy doesn't seem as logical and likely as what we just saw with Drake May.

Now, why do I say that? You mentioned him a guy who played 11 years in the NFL believes that this guy Drake May is much closer to number one overall in the draft than he is number four overall in the draft. So when he's telling you that and you can get that value at three and you don't have to play him right away because of the fact that you have Jacoby Bressett and CC prior.

I kind of look at it and look and say, this is a great scenario. I'll give you one other thing. And I'm sure you guys have talked to him and I know Victoria to her credit, wanted the Panthers to get them, you know, the waste of this year to get them. But I will tell you, when we had him on last week at him, he was as polished as could be. He felt patriot like in his answering without saying anything. Yeah, he's a sharp kid.

You know, it's interesting. I wonder if the expansion of NIL and marketing opportunities for these guys, I wonder if they will come to the league even more ready and polished than they would have otherwise. But Caleb Williams has been doing like Dr. Pepper and like Wendy's commercials for more than a year now.

I just wonder if there are some benefits to how college athletes have become such bigger stars now than they were. Here's one thing we did talk about with regarding Drake May and just because we dealt with it with Bryce Young. He's not going into the greatest situation in terms of the roster. So by you saying that Jacoby Bressett may end up being the starter this this year for New England, that would make me feel so much better about May's future. Because I wish that the Panthers would have started somebody else for much of the year in place of Bryce Young, just because you can build so many bad habits from running for your life and not being ready for the transition from college to pro. That I would love to see Drake May have the benefit of not playing in year one. I completely agree with you.

It's why I said to you, I want to see the last time that I was on that. I thought the Panthers should have been in the market for Russell Wilson for this year to basically restart. I think the Bryce Young career, as crazy as that sounds, I know that sounds ludicrous to people, but I really believe that. And we have been joking, but I mean, not really, because I believe it about my quarterback rules on my show and how I say, and rule number two, it's very important to those keeping track and home and 99% that draft the quarterback when you want one, not when you need one. Right now, New England needs one, but having Jacoby Bressett allows you to want one.

It's why my favorite pick in the dress is the one that everyone hates. Michael Pennix junior to the Atlanta Falcons. I love the fact that they drafted a quarterback that they don't have to play until three years from now, because more likely than not when he's ready to play will be two or three years from now.

They'll have the experience to learn and he'll grow. I think that the problem last year for the Panthers, I totally agree with you. I don't care how bad it was Andy Dalton last year, right?

Yes. I don't care how bad Andy Dalton may have been in starting games and how loud the fans would have gotten. I would have started him for at least the first half of the season barring injury last year or any backup quarterback, however you want to look at it, because I just do not believe that most rookie are ready to play.

I could not agree more. The other argument, the argument against where we are, and Evan obviously we're right, the argument is that you have to take advantage of the financial window when you've got a quarterback on that cheap deal for three or four years, that that's your window to build out the rest of your team, except that your quarterback's not that good at that point. And I think we can point to Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love, even Eli Manning sat behind Kurt Warner, and it was not the Kurt Warner that went to the Super Bowl with Arizona or played with the Rams. It was a Kurt Warner who was just kind of okay with the Giants, but he sat behind Warner for the first five or six games of his rookie season. Phillip Rivers waited two years behind Drew Brees to take over with then San Diego. There's too much evidence that waiting helps, and I mean just look at the track record of quarterbacks that we throw in right away. Trevor Lawrence, we still don't know if Trevor Lawrence is a franchise quarterback. We know he's Jacksonville's quarterback, but I don't think we know if he's a franchise quarterback yet, because he hasn't been consistently good enough.

I'll tell you something. I don't. I don't mean this to insult you, but you and I think a lot of light on this, so I don't want to talk to you too much on this, but rule number three quarterback rules. Hey, QBs to make wide receivers. Great. Don't take wide receivers to make QBs. Great.

Why do I bring that up, Adam? In response to what you just said, I don't care if I have to pay my quarterback 50 or $60 million a year. If he's that dude, it doesn't matter how much you pay your quarterback. As long as rule number one, you could find a quarterback that can outperform his contract. If I told you you ran the Kansas City Chiefs and the salary cap was $200 million. And Patrick Mahone said, The only way I will play for you moving forward is if you pay me $100 million a year.

What would you do? Because if it were me, I'd pay him $100 million a year and would not think twice. I would then say to the other 52 guys, we have 100 million for all of the rest of you. We are going to find a way of making this work, even if it's 52 guys ring chasing or maybe 52 guys taking less money. I don't care because this sport in many ways, as great as it is, is kind of dumb. It's only about one position. If you don't have a quarterback, you don't have a team. You know how many flaws the Chiefs had this year?

And they still won the Super Bowl for the second straight year. It's about the one position. Right. And to piggyback on that, Evan Cohen at Evco Radio on Twitter, is that I believe that there are only a certain number of those guys that you do pay. And I think once you get below that tier, like, for instance, I'll use Daniel Jones, who played at Duke and had a very good year, one with Brian Dable, not a very good year and got injured in year two. And they did not replace him.

I think eventually they will. Is that when you pay a I'll just say a serviceable quarterback. Right. When you pay that guy great quarterback money, you lose. You lose like because he can't outperform that contract. Right.

It's not that he's bad. Let me tell you, here's here. There are two ways that teams win the Super Bowl. Okay. And it's all going back to the quarterback and the allocation of funds. You either have a quarterback that's on his rookie contract, or you have a quarterback that's going to be a Hall of Famer. So he doesn't, it doesn't matter what contract he's going to be on. Right.

It does not matter. If you look at recent Super Bowl winners, Patrick Holmes, it doesn't matter how much he's, he's getting paid. He's going to the hall of fame. If you look at even Matthew, he's going, guys, he's going to the hall of fame, whether people think he's a Hall of Famer or not.

Sure. Every so often there's a Nick falls. Cartman's rookie contract. And he was the quarterback really for that team that year, Tom Brady is a Hall of Famer. The greatest quarterback to ever live Brock Purdy goes to the Superbowl on a rookie contract, two ways, maybe contracts or hall of fame. And if you're not one of those two and you'll know in many ways by that second contract, if you're not on the rookie deal, or you don't think you have a guy that can go to the hall of fame, the resistance is not shown by people in this league to then say, you know what? We don't actually have the guy we should have drafted a quarterback when we wanted one, not only needed one. And I'm not paying Daniel Jones $40 million a year to not be the guy real quick. I love Michael. Are you, are you doing that just to get at the boss man, Brian Gruby to just get at him knowing he's a originally from that area, the Giants fan relocated in Carolina, just to annoy him right now.

I think that's what you're doing. I'm sure he's, he's sitting in his office going, yes, speak the gospel gold because he doesn't like him either. I'm sure I Daniel Jones, a wonderful kid, but he's just not a great NFL quarterback. He's not worth paying 40 million a year.

I wouldn't pay him 20 million a year either. Um, but the, the Pennix pick, I would have loved even more if they traded back a little bit and made it if they had traded back, although you run the risk because Michael Pennix had really, uh, shot up draft boards. If those, if those things even happen, uh, because obviously there were a lot of teams who were interested.

The Raiders would have been interested for real at number, uh, at number 13. Yeah. But here's the thing, Adam, let me, so here's my only issue with that. I get what you're saying, right? You're talking about value.

Yeah. To this day, I have no issue with the Chicago bears trading up to get former USC quarterback, Mitchell, and people hear that and say, what is wrong with you? Listen to what I'm saying. I have no issue with them trading up to get him. I have an issue with them picking the wrong guy. And so what I mean by that is if the Atlanta Falcons believe that ultimately Michael Pennish here is the guy.

I don't care if they took him above where other people would take him. You have to be sure that your guy that you're going to get is actually the guy where you get in trouble is when you get that wrong. So like in the case of Trubisky, I love the bear so enough and getting that guy, they just got it wrong. That's the problem.

Yeah. Well, and you can get quarterback wrong easily in the NFL. Unfortunately, you get fired if you do.

And you get fired if you do. No question about it. The, the sport college football and pro football might as well be just two different sports.

The offenses are so different. Did you catch before we let you go? Did you catch Bill Belichick on the McAfee draft special only only clips because I was at the draft.

But I mean, it was, it was awesome from what I've seen. Also, I saw, I may be wrong on this, but I thought I saw something today where he's going to be at the Brady roast for Netflix on May 5th open on one of the people roasting Brady. Oh, that'll be great. I can't wait.

That'll be phenomenal. Evan Cohen, ESPN unsportsmanlike in the mornings on ESPN radio at Evco radio. Next time you come on, we'll do our UNC basketball player random draft again.

I was waiting. I mean, Hendrick Ravel reached out to me and was wondering when we're doing that was my first pick. Well, she was my guy. He's with Dave Popsin. Kevin Salvadori.

Hello on line one. Oh, Jeff. Jeff Lebo would like a word, sir.

Mainstream you get King rice. We go King rice, King rice, a heck of a, is he still at Monmouth or did he leave and take another game? Brian Reese. That was a very good Pat Sullivan would like to talk with you. All right, we have to go.

You have to go. Evan Cohen, ESPN unsportsmanlike we could get carried away there. I love him. Oh, he's awesome. He's great.
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