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Could the Canes bring on THIS guy??

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March 1, 2024 3:11 pm

Could the Canes bring on THIS guy??

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March 1, 2024 3:11 pm

Luke DeCock, News & Observer, on the Carolina Hurricanes as we come up on the NHL trade deadline and ACC Basketball.

Does Luke see them bringing THIS talented player onto the Canes, after a tweet last night? If so, who does he see going to make room? What did Luke make of the Canes’ win over Columbus last night? How did he think Spencer Martin looked against his former team?

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Call clickgrainger.com or just stop by. Grainger. For the ones who get it done. Hurricanes won last night, but that isn't the thing that really got me thinking about Hurricanes hockey before the game. I saw a Twitter blurb from one Elliot Friedman of Sportsnet. That contract talks were back on between Elias Petterson, the center, who had over 100 points last year, and the Vancouver Canucks after they explored a trade with the Carolina Hurricanes.

And I went, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? Luke DeCock of the News and Observer, your reaction to that Twitter blurb, I'm sure you saw it, is or was what? Yeah, I mean, I had not at that point heard about those talks. They did not surprise me because here's the thing about the Hurricanes at the trade deadline. They are not going to go out and get Ilya Libyushkin, right? They're not going to go get that replacement level guy.

They're going to take big swings. And, you know, I think part of this, the fact that Patterson's a restricted free agent, you know, is there the threat of an offer sheet in there? Because, you know, the Hurricanes first round picks for the next couple of years, as we saw with with Kokiyemi are not high picks. Right. So do you get in there with that leverage and say, hey, we're thinking about offer sheeting this guy?

Do you want to do a deal? It's, you know, you get a legit top three forward. You get a center man, you know, it's a chance to strike and get the kind of player that doesn't come on the market very often.

So I thought it was very much in keeping with the way the Hurricanes do their business. You know, they're going to take big swings, right? Whether it's Matthew Kuchak or Peterson or whoever, like, they'd rather take a big swing and miss than add David Savard, right?

Like some guy like that. And maybe that's hurt them in the past, right? But they're also willing to use their cap space as a weapon. And they have some right now. And you saw picking up a sixth round pick. It's not much, but it's something from the Maple Leafs to help make that Lubuskin deal happen.

And, you know, they're trying to use it here to take a big swing. I assume that Marty Natus would have been the guy going the other way. Vancouver is the best team in the West. They have the best record in the West.

At least they did a couple of days ago. They would have to be more than Marty Natus going the other way for them to make the deal. It would have to be, I mean, honestly, if it's not going to be Aho or Slavin, it would probably have to be Svechnikov going the other way. I just, I can't even imagine how Vancouver could possibly make the trade for Elias Lindholm, setting themselves up to be a Stanley Cup contender, and then take anything less than a star back for Elias Patterson. You have to do weird things sometimes because of contracts and the cap. And maybe there were other considerations in there. Look, I mean, the one thing we know when you're dealing with the Canucks is Jim Rutherford will do whatever it takes to get a deal done. But that is a, you know, and maybe it is Svechnikov. Maybe you think, you know, with the injuries and the fact that he's, you know, hasn't developed into that 50 goal score yet, although certainly everyone knows he's got the potential and he's right there.

Maybe you do pull the trigger on that deal and get a guy who's a legit star. But as I said, like, I wasn't aware of this. I didn't have any insight into on it.

I wish I did. But it did not surprise me. It struck me as exactly the kind of thing the hurricanes like to try.

Maybe it's just me. I dismissed it out of hand. I found it intriguing, and it made my brain kind of turn over what would it have taken to get him. And I didn't love that, although Patterson is a unbelievably talented offensive player. And he does. He is part of their penalty kill, but I don't know how good a defender he is. I know he is not good in the face-off circle. At least the stats say that. What do you make of how they are playing right now? Vancouver the Hurricanes.

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Thank you very much. Yeah, I mean, I think I think a lot of it remains true. You know, I think Spencer Martin played well enough to win last night and that's all you need from your goalies. Was he 1987-era Patrick Waugh? No, but was he, you know, or I guess 1997-era Patrick Waugh.

1987-era Eddie Belfort. No, he was not. He was, but he was fine and he gets a win against his former team and that's what they needed, right? They just needed their goalies not to kill them.

And if you get that, then everything else falls into place. Obviously, Ajo, I thought was good last night and it was a little weird hearing someone else call the game and kept, I mean, we all love John Bujigros, but that is not how you pronounce Kokiyemi. I mean, maybe I'm not saying it right either, but it kept it. It was like that game in the playoffs against Nashville a couple years ago, where I think it was Ken Cal kept calling Marty Nash, Marty Nash cash. Remember that one?

For like two games. We have people in our own organization can't pronounce natures. I mean, it's, it's amazing.

Or, but it's for, or the, or the people, the order in, in the, or the organization who had an extra syllable between the S and the V and you get, hey, maybe that's how you say it in Russian. We should ask, we should ask, we should ask a check off because then we get an honest answer. Unbelievable. I love that kid. By the way, a kid is so much fun.

He is, he is the son. Also, strangely enough, you know, and you and I talked about it and I said it definitively, and I don't want to make this, I want to talk about some other things here real quick, but I said it definitively, probably late November, maybe around Thanksgiving. I said, if the hurricanes don't trade for a goalie by Christmas, they're not going to make the playoffs.

And I was serious about it. They're not going to make the playoffs. From December 12th to today, Piotr Kacekoff is a top 10 goalie in the entire league.

I just mean, just the numbers and we see it right. I actually was more impressed with the Minnesota game because there was less spectacular and more putting himself in position. I know that the second goal, Rod didn't like it.

I don't think anybody liked it, but it's a floater, but he never saw it. But I mean, he was just solid. The goalie thing is still interesting to me because, I mean, I wasn't with you on the miss the playoffs ultimatum, although I certainly understand where you're coming from. I still feel like if you are serious about winning the Stanley Cup, you may still want to add a fifth goalie to the mix, just because who knows with Freddie, who knows with Ron.

Health-wise, form-wise in Freddie's case, although I think you can make the argument taking three months off in the middle of the season may be the best thing for him. And then Kacekoff, as good as he's been, you know, do you trust him against the Bruins in an elimination game? I mean, I guess you should because he's played against the Bruins. But, you know, if you get into a situation where you're playing a Borowski level goalie again, you know, do you trust Kacekoff? Do you trust Spencer Martin if it comes to that?

So I think there is sort of a still an argument to be made. Now, obviously Marc-Andre Fleury is off the market. But if you can go get a proven veteran without damaging your cap situation, if that guy comes on the market in the next week and a half or whatever it is, you know, do you still do that? Because if you're serious about winning the Stanley Cup, you know, do you still have questions about whether these four guys collectively can do it? And look, can they?

Yes. But if you get into a situation in an elimination game where you're deciding between Aunty Ronta, Kacekoff who's lost an edge, Anderson who's hurt again, and Spencer Martin, I'm not sure that reeks of Stanley Cup contenderishness. I'm not sure there's anything you can do to protect yourself completely from injuries at one position, right? I mean, your point is well taken. But if the Hurricanes are down to their fifth goaltender, I don't think it matters. And at that point, Yanni Peretz, come on up and take a swing.

He has never given up. It's almost like if we had this conversation last year and I said to you, well, if Svechnikov gets hurt and patchy already gets hurt again, you know, don't they need another forward? Just in case and you say, look, you can't plan about losing your two best goal scorers. You're just going to end up losing for one goal games against a good goalie.

And so, you know, you would have been a visionary that nobody's ever accused me of that. Let me fold this into a conversation about college football real quick. Luke Tkachov, the NNO is here. So the latest proposal is a 14 team field. This one started after two years of a 12 team field.

14 team field with 11 of the 12 spots being automatic bids. Three to the big 10, three to the SEC, two to the ACC, two to the big 12, one to the group of five. So the question posed by, I think it was Chris Vianini of The Athletic, said that if you're the ACC, do you accept second tier status in this regard?

I mean, if that was really proposed to Jim Phillips, what do you think he says? I mean, the ACC already accepted second tier status from Florida state got bounced. So that, that train has left the station. The AC, an ACC athletic director relegated the ACC to second tier status that that's over.

That's done with the question now is what's the best deal you can cut. Now, do I think what the big 10 and SEC are doing is laughably exploitative? Absolutely. Not only that, they want guaranteed buys. You know, so I, I think the way you do this is if your teams are good enough, and this is true of the ACC or the SEC, your champion gets an automatic bid. If your teams are good enough, they'll get at large bids. So if you're as good as you say you are, we shouldn't be bending over backwards to make sure that everyone gets to see Iowa on a national stage for the 13th time. Nobody needs that, right? Like nobody really needed Louisville getting into a 12 team field last year, who would have been the second ACC team?

Like let's call a spade a spade here. The ACC didn't necessarily deserve two bids last year. So they should probably take the two bids and run. But my point is we shouldn't be doing this by conference.

Right? I agree with that many college football teams. So, but what you're what's happening is, and this is the old, you know, when when the when the SEC and big 10 decided that they were going to form the new Alliance, and Jim Phillips said, Oh, I know there's nothing to be paranoid about, you know, your former colleague Joe Obies and I were joking at the Duke and the other night, he's basically, what are you going to do stab me quote from man stabbed, like, of course, they're going to find a way to cut you out of the loop.

Of course, they're going to stab you in the back, you know, and it's like, you want it to be one way, but it's the other way. The SEC and big 10 are consolidating their power. And if you go along with this, and you have a veto, right, in the college football playoff, it's like, it's like the United Nations Security Council, everybody gets a veto. You know, in order to aim gets a veto until, until the SEC and the big 10 leave, which is probably what they want anyway. Right, which is, you know, the other argument is, this is all just a gambit to get people to say no, and they pack up their toys and go home and they go play the SEC big 10 national championship and pull out of the NCAA tournament, which they've already basically laid the groundwork for with these Fox tournaments that are postseason tournaments like and you know what, at a certain point, I say, let them go. If you want to kill the golden goose, because it's everybody being in the same pool for football, everybody being in the same pool for a 68. I'd even take a 72 team basketball tournament, you have to think we're gonna have 96 Luke and you know it.

They're not going to fight. My point is, if you want to leave and go do your own European Super League live football operation, as the SEC and big 10 I think they're going to find out very quickly that part of the appeal is the fact that you get to test yourself against other teams from other conferences, and it's not just UCLA playing Alabama or whatever every week. I just, I think the ACC should call their bluff on this one will the ACC know of course not exactly hard table every chance it gets, I said, just a little bit ago, we should have we shouldn't have any automatic qualifying spots. We should just have the 14 best, and eventually the 16, or the 24, however many teams are that are ultimately going to be playing college football on February and March 1 on February 29 will be wrapping up the 32 team college football playoffs. This will be the place in order to name this week is the round of 16 and the college football season is, it's just the willingness of the people who run college sports, they don't care to to chase every last nickel down the street, no matter what the long term implications are, it's not baffling it makes perfect sense. They are incentivized to squeeze current revenue. If you're a chief or if you're a commissioner if you're an AD, there's nothing incentivizing you to preserve the long term system, you're entirely incentivized like private equity to just gut it and sell off the assets and let the next guy worry about it. Yes, college college football is about mergers and acquisitions it's not about anything else that's what they, that's what they have told us they've screamed to us over the last several years it's all it is. The whole thing is laughable, you brought up the Super League I actually drew an analogy to that, I think yesterday, or at least wrote about it. Without the ones like you, who work tirelessly to keep things running, everything would suddenly stop. Hospitals, factories, schools and power plants, they all depend on you, no matter the weather, emergency or time of day, you're the ones who get it done.

At Grainger, we're here for you with professional grade industrial supplies, count on real time product availability and fast delivery call click Grainger.com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done. If we remember what happened when the best, the biggest football clubs in Europe, the reals and Ray Allen Barcelona still wanted they probably still Barcelona needs it, because of very various things. The biggest clubs in Europe were all in, you know, the Italian League were all into it, because they were all going to leave, do their own thing, they're going to leave but they were going to do their own thing they were going to get out of Champions League all that, and just consolidate money and then oh no we'll let you come in we'll let these. And what the backlash from their fans was so strong that especially in the Premier League. Now they're all against it. There were five or six clubs that were all about it. And now they're all against it because they have they heard from their fans. I wonder if SEC fan would be all that interested in something like that.

I'm very curious. I'm not talking about, you know, the people who call fine mom. I'm talking about the normal people who are happen to be fans of Alabama or Georgia isn't part of the lore, knowing that you're better than everybody else. What happens if you don't have anybody else to fight. Well, and I think when you look at realignment as well and I think these are kind of two sides of the same coin, is there a point where you keep gambling that people are still going to care right they're going to care that NC State playing Syracuse, instead of Maryland they're going to you're gambling that they're going to care that UCLA is playing Iowa instead of Cal you're gambling that you know it's all sort of like pushing the envelope pushing the envelope to seeing how far it goes until the system breaks and then it's unfixable. So I think that that what the SEC and big 10 are doing is just kind of another layer of that like do SEC fans really want to be part of something else where they don't get to be in the NCAA basketball tournament. They don't play, you know, you have multiple champions where there's an undefeated SMU, and an undefeated Alabama and everyone's just arguing about it, they don't get to play to see who the better team is because Alabama beats up 10 and three Washington team instead that no one cares about. I just, I feel like you're just, you're just everyone's just kind of running this big grand experiment on how much can we destroy what people love about college sports before they stop watching. And so far you haven't seen that reaction like you saw on soccer in part because I don't think the relationship between fan and college or fan and pro team in the US is quite the same as it is in soccer but the closest thing to it would be a university allegiance handed down through families you have families that have divided allegiances because one kid went to state one kid went to Carolina it's like Everton Liverpool.

I but I don't know what the breaking point is and we haven't reached it yet. Clearly, maybe we haven't we don't know it maybe adding Callan Stanford and SM has the breaking point, and we'll look back in three years and say that, but we haven't reached the breaking point that we know yet, I do think the SEC and big 10 breaking away if that's really what they want to do, would would be a tangible put a pin in it breaking point to the, to the system as we know it, you know, and then they're obviously going to go that professional route which we're all going to end up going eventually, but they would certainly accelerate that. And would the ACC and big 12 and you know Big East and basketball would they want to keep up with that I don't know.

They want to, but would they chase it the way that the SEC and big 10 could with the revenues that that I don't know, look to cock up the news and observer fun conversation my friend I will. I don't know if I'm going to see you tomorrow morning for whatever that is a 1230 start tomorrow, but I'll certainly see you very soon. Appreciate your time. Calling all North Carolina sports fans soon enough DraftKings sports book will be live in your state, starting March 11, you'll be able to bet on all your favorite sports from the comfort of your own home with DraftKings download the DraftKings sports app now and sign up with code 999 to get up to $300 in bonus bets. When you place a $5 bet once mobile sports betting goes live only on DraftKings sports book coming soon to North Carolina on March 11 with code 999. The crown is yours. Gambling problem call 877-185-543 or visit more than a game.nc.gov 21 plus North Carolina only new customers only subject to regulatory licensing requirements, maximum $300 in bonus bets not available for use until March 11 2024 bonus bets expire 168 hours after issuance deposit wagering and eligibility restrictions apply terms of draftkings.com slash sportsbook slash NC
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