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Visit us at capitalfinancialusa.com. This is the Adam Gold Show. Yeah, Cal Macar is good. Only, but Cal Maker though.

Cal Maker, right? Great NASCAR driver. Hobie Baker Award, best college hockey player.

Calder Trophy, best rookie. He hasn't won the heart yet. He's going to. He's trending in that direction. He is going to.

He is trending in that direction. I mean, what a player. What an absolute beast he is. You know, we talked about it before and during the Stanley Cup Finals, Colorado in front of the goaltender is just better. And Darcy Kemper was good enough. He didn't have to be their best player. He just had to not screw it up.

And guess what? Darcy Kemper didn't screw it up. Now he played really well, so I'm not trying to give him a backhanded compliment. Colorado will likely try to retain him on a reasonable salary, something in the neighborhood of between four and five million. But they ain't going to pay him like, you know, he's Andrei Vasilevski. They're not going to pay him eight million a year because there's a lot of guys who could step in and do that. You know, if they don't, if Kemper prices himself out, they could go just trade for what, Gorgiev from the Rangers. Seriously, they just go get Gorgiev.

Be done with it. Or they could, heck, they could trade for Freddie Anderson. And Anderson could win a cup with the, like I'm not suggesting that the Hurricanes should do that, but Colorado's absolutely awesome. They've got surprisingly fair amount of cap space.

They can bring back a lot of that team. Now, there's going to be guys are going to get more money. Because it's going to get more money. Lecanin, Nikushkin, you know, Burakowski, those guys are all going to get raises, but they can almost afford it for another year. Nathan McKinnon is probably going to make more than the 6.3 he makes now in two years. Just going to guess that guy's a steal right now. His contract? Yes.

Well, I mean, if I told you that his next contract would be ten and a half, you'd go, that's kind of a steal too. He is just awesome. Absolutely awesome.

So congratulations. It was a fun, I thought it was a fun Stanley Cup Finals. I thought the best team won. I also think that the best team had to earn it by going through the best champion. So Tampa was Tampa was so banged up, but man, they made you think it's possible. Just, they just couldn't get enough out of the guys not named Kucherov, Pilat, and Stamkos.

Just couldn't get enough out of those other guys. All right. It's listeners choice. Let's listen.

So we asked you to determine what we should talk about here. Opt-ins? Nobody cares.

Celebrity boxing? Nobody cares. Rod Brind'Amour getting screwed out of a Hall of Fame berth? A lot of people care. Just not as many as ACC scheduling changes to football, and I am here for it.

I applaud this. We've been talking about this for a long, long time. I suggested back in the day that the ACC completely scrap their model altogether, and just let the commissioner and a panel determine the football schedule with whatever is best for the league and television. I mean, I blatantly suggested this for basketball when your schedule is absolutely irrelevant because as long as you, if you're good, you're going to make the, you're going to make the tournament. Yeah, which at the end of the day, it's all a matter, right? And that's it. That's basketball, football.

You have to be a little bit more sensible about it. But now we have, rather than divisions, and we'll play in division for one more year, which of course, just trash. But starting next year, three permanent partners for each school. And then you'll play half of the remaining 10 schools one year. And then three years later, you'll play the other half of the remaining schools. So you'll play the first five, the first group of five, whatever that is in years one and two of the rotating schedule. And then the next group of five in years three and four, and you'll just flip the home and away in those two years each time.

I would have rather kind of alternated this five, next five, this five, next five, but it's not that big a deal, but I would have rather done that. But again, not a big deal. So what we're going to now deal with is who gets the easier permanent partners. So for a long time, you know, state would, their only permanent partner would be Carolina, right? They're in the same, they were, they've been in the same division with Wake. And I know that state Wake have played basically every year since the earth cooled.

That's not going to be the case anymore. Now, they will play the first two years, I believe, actually, maybe not, to go and go and look at it. But whether it's the first two years or not, it's eventually going to end and state and Wake will go two years without playing. Maybe during that time, they'll schedule a non-conference game. Wake likes to do that. I think it's terrible, but Wake likes to do that.

But that's the new way of the world. So state's three permanent partners are Carolina, Duke, Clemson. How about a textile bowl every year? Very nice. Carolina's three permanent partners are state, Duke, and Virginia, South's oldest rivalry.

Very good. Wake's permanent partners are Duke, Georgia Tech, and Virginia Tech. Georgia Tech sounds random to me, but okay, fine. And I guess to an extent, so does Virginia Tech, but at least it's one other sort of long-time ACC school. Georgia Tech joined the league, what, 1970 something? Something like that. Well, at least I know Virginia Tech is relatively close to Wake 4.

It's just a trip up 77, hit 81, and you're basically correct. Proximity doesn't do it for me. Sure. Because proximity, I mean, look, we have members in the same college, like Boston College and Miami are in the same league. Actually, speaking of Boston College and Miami, as old biggie schools, they'll play. Right? Yeah.

They sort of have done that. I think BC gets Syracuse, Miami, and like... Boston College gets Miami, Pitt, and Syracuse. And Pitt, right. So the big east.

The old big east. And that's good. Like, you want to keep rivals together as best you can. And that's the way you should do it.

That's the way they should have always done it. And I've been arguing for years that these contrived divisions would give us foe rivalries. Man, the state Syracuse rivalry goes woah.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, the Virginia-Pitt rivalry. No.

No. I know Virginia and Louisville have been in the same division, but I forget who it was I talked to about that. That's actually kind of built up into kind of a grudge game.

So they did keep them in their permanent partner. It's been a basketball permanent partner for Virginia. Which, honestly, not only can't I understand, I don't understand it.

I don't know either. But it's been the least watchable game in college basketball almost every year. I can believe that. And we've had to endure two of those games. Because Virginia and Louisville, when Louisville was coached by Rick Pitino, both played maddening defensive styles. And those games ended up being rock fights. So they were awful, awful basketball games to watch. But now they've been in different divisions in football, but they've been permanent partners. And I don't really understand. What do Virginia and Louisville have in common?

But they will continue to be permanent. No one likes them? I mean, yeah, I think, but no one likes them for different reasons. Sure.

No one, no one, like, I don't know. There's enough to like about Virginia, so I've been told. To get back to the issue, this is where the ACC should have been going. Eight-game conference seasons. Notre Dame will still be part of the schedule eventually.

And I keep saying this because I do believe that one day it will happen. Notre Dame will be part of the league. We'll have a 16th team. And you'll have three schools in your little quadrant.

And then you'll rotate around to the other, you know, one other quadrant of four. And then one additional school. And we'll have eight-game conference schedules.

I think that's what we're ultimately going to get. I wish they could flip and get rid of divisions this year. Just keep the schedules as they are. But get rid of divisions. But that is not going to be the case.

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Would you like financial independence into your retirement? And beyond it, 800-661-7383. That golden ticket is a $1,000 value. Or you can text ADAM to 21000 for Coach Pete DeRuta. Darren Revelle of the Action Network joins us here on the Adam Gold show. Everybody's interested in live, yay or nay, because there's a lot of interesting things. I was having a discussion, Darren, with a friend of mine who is, I don't know if angry is the right word, and I said, look at it from this perspective. We do radio for a living. It's an interesting topic at a time where we don't have a lot of interesting things to talk about.

I can be selfish, right? I agree. These guys are getting, whether you say they're getting their ROI or not, they don't care whether they're getting their ROI, you know, return on investment at all. But they're certainly getting their return on investment for mindshare.

I mean, they are occupying so much of the space. And in a way, this has been the most exciting non-major thing to talk about in golf history. And for me, as a sports business guy, who's been ho-hum, I've covered everything. I've done this for 22 years.

I'm just going to fill in the mad lib, and at this time of year, this is what I talk about. This is something that has never hit my radar. A rival league that has a $600 billion that the incumbent who has a 60-year history cannot compete with them.

That's never happened in the history of sports. And so this is really, really intriguing. And how do you evaluate, you know, like, okay, so Rory is going nuts and saying it's unethical to deal with the Saudis, but how connected is he to Nike, where they go into places that don't have labor unions to make his close. Right. So anyway, it's very intriguing. Here's the thing about this, and I just want, I have not heard, the only person that I have heard that has really kind of hung his hat on, you know, an anti-Saudi Arabia message is Brandel Shambly of Golf Channel.

Or to an extent, Eamonn Lynch, who writes extensively for Golf Week. For the most part, I think Rory and people who are connected with golf have talked about this from a PGA Tour versus Live Tour, sort of an angle, with the notion that because of the unlimited money, and it is essentially bottomless money. There's no end. There is an end, but we're just never going to get to the end. It's sort of like space. So I assume that somewhere there's an end to outer space.

I just don't know where it is. There's an end to Saudi money. But regardless of the source or the regime, the money is unavoidable because as you said, the PGA Tour cannot compete and the Saudis are not looking for a return on investment. Whatever ROI they want has nothing to do with golf.

It has only to do with their image and everything about it. So let me, I wanted to ask you this. By the way, by the way, by the way, that could be the downfall. In other words, you know, if they don't get, they need, they need a couple more big players and it's assumed that that will happen. But if they don't get it, and golf is just, you know, you have to believe that as a high-profile athlete, now maybe not Phil Nicholson towards the end of his career who gives a crap, but you have to believe that if you're Bryson DeChambeau and you're like, okay, I'm winning and I now have a hundred million dollars, but there's no credibility and I'm bored and I'm not playing against the best. Does that matter?

Or the chance that I can get to be in the majors, you know, at least four times a year, I'm competing against the best and that's enough for me. It depends on a couple of things. One, it depends on how much they do really care, how much of it is a money grab, which is fine. I'm not knocking it. But right now to me, Liv is only a money grab. There's no other argument for the Liv golf series. And again, I will say I'm sad that they were not interested in sports radio because why not? I say that sort of as a joke.

Anyway, so I don't know that it really matters to those guys. So you can get your seven million dollar a year deal. I hope it would be more. I mean, to be honest, I'm not leaving for seven million, Darren.

I mean, I'm not leaving all of this just for seven measly million dollars. Darren Revelle Action Network is joining us here on the Adam Gold Show. But here's the other thing I was curious about because the initial fallout for Phil Mickelson leaving and also it was all the comments.

Obviously that had a lot to do with it. KPMG, Workday, Heineken because he does Amstel and I guess it's the same company. Callaway paused their relationship and Phil is out there with no signage at all. Some other guys lost a couple of endorsements. DJ lost RBC because he spurned that event. I think, who is it, Bryson DeChambeau lost Rocket Mortgage. Nobody else has lost any, you know. Brooks has not lost Nike.

Right. So, and we still see DJ and Brooks on commercials and DeChambeau in commercials. What is the fallout? Because you're not on TV anymore.

These guys are only going to be on TV one more time this calendar year. What's the fallout? There has to be some sort of deduction written in.

They're not being seen. What they agreed to is not what they got. So, there's got to be some sort of deduction. What about for a guy who's not really at the top? So, let's just say Kevin Na, who's got a bunch of sponsorship. He's a walking billboard and that's fine.

But he's got Callaway on his head. Listen, he's not going to get, he likely will not get, you know, the money is not going to be sponsorships. The money is all, I mean, the sexiness over this is the guaranteed money.

I don't know why the PGA Tour then comes out and goes, well, we're going to offer $20 million more. Hey, that's if I win. I have to win.

I don't have to win on this other tour. I just show up. I get an appearance fee.

That's exactly what it is. If I were Brooks Koepka or let's use Bryson DeChambeau here and they paid me $100 million over three years. That's probably not a good deal. I agree. I mean, you're going to make, you're going to make between five and ten and just in golf and then everything that comes after that.

Seattle. So it must be per year because the Saudis can pay that. Yeah, man, I don't know this. This is it's just it's, you know, the only thing I could say within golf that kind of like throws out the rules of everything that you've come to learn is this is like the Augusta concessions. They don't care about making money.

They don't it is what it is. And there it's it's strange fascinating to cover though. To me. It's one of the most fascinating stories of the entire year regardless of where we are in the season. Final thing for you about this because you said that they still need a few more top guys. I actually think that they have enough right now to keep it going for a minimum of two.

I think longer years because they don't care as long as they put a credible product out. And I've always argued that people don't really recognize like great football versus mediocre football as long as it's football. That's good and for golf fans. I mean, I watched the first event I watched enough of it in London outside of London. It looked like every other European tour golf tournament I've ever watched the crowds were okay. I yeah, it does look like the Euro tour, but I think they need a couple more people and it doesn't need to be huge. I don't know what they have now. I think what they have now I actually made a made a list of it. They've got eight of the top 50 in the world and they've got an additional 12 in the top hundred and of that number one is Phil.

The other is Lee Westwood Ian Poulter Sergio Garcia. They've got a bunch of guys that people know. That's enough. Yep. It's just it's not it's not great. I don't know about that. I don't know about that though because the people that are that are there, you know, whether it's okay Poulter and Sergio you can argue even though Sergio had his Masters you could argue, you know, they're near the end. Oh, absolutely not consistent even who stays and not consistently Westwood obviously not who the hell, you know, what was the last time who is Graham McDowell to right? Yeah, I did not list Graham McDowell. Graham McDowell, most everybody on that tour is at the end. I'm just giving you Europe people, you know, you know, but do they do they I feel like they need like a Xander Schauffele or a Max Homa or a Zala Taurus or, you know, just one more American guy. On the way up not somebody on the way down and I and I also think I also think all this Eugenio Chicharra or whatever his name is, you know, like, okay, that's fine. Let's see a golfer come out of the college ranks in America go straight to live. That's also another point for me. He sort of qualifies.

I think he was at Oklahoma or Oklahoma State. So I know I'm just thinking about an American. No, I totally totally understand. It does make a difference. It's not being ethnocentric, but it's just like Americans think of the PGA tour. No question, even if someone plays in college, you know Europeans think about the Euro tour, which has never been as strong.

Here's the interesting thing. Darren is that the only guy on the roster of live tour players who really satisfies. This is Taylor Gooch and not enough people know his name. That is an up-and-coming young player and of all the players that signed that was the one that surprised me Bryson DeChambeau. You could argue his body might be deteriorating based on what he has put it through. Brooks Koepka is definitely a candidate for surgery Taylor. What's interesting about Taylor?

Is that like he's just recently gotten really really good. Yep, you know, but he's 30, you know, like again, like I feel like he's any he looks younger than he is. But you know, again, I'm looking for the 20 with the 21 year old, you know, as who has everything in front of him and takes the live tour if Colin Morikawa were to come out or as you said Zander Shafle or a Patrick Cantlay and there have been rumors about both by the way, but Morikawa has definitely refuted that when he talked about pouring cereal into his milk.

If one of those guys went it would be a problem. He did know and for the first time though. He shot it down emphatically and clearly he has hedged at almost every time that I have heard him discuss this Darren Ravel Action Network. You are a gentleman sir back to the rest of your day.

I'll talk to you soon. You got it. So the tournament starts Thursday. I know there's a bunch of protests whatever like that's why I keep trying to avoid that the the geopolitical conversation about this. If you start it, it's just like pulling a thread.

I mean, you're just going to end up there's so much dirty money throughout not just sports everywhere. So to me, I'm not saying it's an invalid argument, but I think it's an argument that there is just there are too many easy shots to take back even though I think that most of them are false equivalents. It's still I mean, China is a problem too, right? So it's to me. It's just not it's not the winning argument. It's not the winning argument for that conversation. And if the goal is to say this is better than this then make the argument about the game itself. I think live is bad for the game. It's unnecessary for the game. The competition is not competition.

That was the most popular argument on Twitter over the weekend. Would players still try to win the same way? Yeah, but I also think that forget about trying to win in on a PGA Tour event. It matters a there are points for World Golf rankings. There are none of these about involving live at this point, but there are like if you finish 10th. There's incentive to fight your way from 20th to 15th from 14th to 8th. There's an incentive there to do that that really does not exist in live.

It just doesn't right. Yes trying to win is different than trying to claw your way up the rankings for instance real quick. Chesson Hadley's friend of this program Hadley had a really good final round shot a 64-6 under par in Connecticut last week and earned enough FedEx Cup points to get from outside the 225 to like 160 still needs to get into the 125. But he got enough points because of his top. I think it was a top five finish tie a t5 that is now he doesn't have to do something miraculous over the next few weeks to get up into the top 125 last year. He shot a great final round and Wyndham to get into the top 125 and keep his card for next year. These are things that will not exist.

On live they won't their tournaments within tournaments that does not happen for that other series the other tour whatever you want to call it. I mean if you want to watch it. I am not telling you not to not telling you not to I'm not telling you not to support it.

I'm just telling you the difference between the two. All right, we have reached the half. Let's do it Dennis.

Now your halftime entertainment. Do they ever put just one minute on the board? Yeah, okay.

We've done we've had we've had no time on the board before we have been just speaking, you know, be the soccer supporter. No, they would that you they would absolutely put one up. Okay. Now they probably would play more like one and a half but it's kind of what we did actually.

Yeah, they would they would put one up. All right. This was on our poll, but we knew no one really was going to vote for it celebrity. I put celebrity in air quotes boxing, right? We're going to see an exhibition exhibition matchup. So we mean, yes that too between Adrian Peterson and Le'Veon Bell.

Okay. Yeah, it's going to be a heavyweight matchup because they both weigh over 205 pounds. So it's a heavyweight matchup.

Yeah, it is. Absolutely and I don't know man. I do you remember when there was a TV show actually called celebrity boxing?

No, there was I think actually Tonya Harding was in it Manu bowl. I believe was in it at some point but there was a TV show called celebrity boxing. Okay, and I with maybe we lack of better term blame these YouTube stars that we see with, you know, Jake Paul and these guys that are getting into boxing and right taking on former mixed martial artists and you know, Nate Robinson fought one of them. I don't know if that's the reason why we're seeing this because there is money coming around it because the number of viewership and the people that are paying money to see it and to sponsor it. So maybe it's just the money that's coming around it, but I don't get it. Just this whole celebrity boxing thing.

I don't get it. Well, I'm with you. At its best and I grew up in an era where so the end of Ali but it was it was more known for Leonard Hagler Hearns Duran more the lower weight classes.

Right? I was my you know, youth watching boxing at the end of Ali the Larry Holmes era Tyson was a fascination who burned out too quickly once he lost to Buster Douglas. It was basically over and then we were left with George Foreman Evander Holyfield to an extent who was more Cruiserweight than heavyweight either way.

I don't I can't watch like bad boxing. Just look maybe Le'Veon Bell versus Adrian Peterson would be great. I would take Peterson in that in that fight.

I would take Peters. Can I wager on it? You probably can actually I don't know. It is an exhibition. So I don't know if you're allowed to legally bet on exhibitions in boxing. I'm not entirely sure because I don't know if it has to be certified by State Athletic Commission.

I'm not entirely sure how that all works out. It's a good point. But because it's not technically a pro fight to find out if we can wager on it, but it takes place at the end of next month.

I believe it's the one the day to set. I know Le'Veon Bell is again. There's trained in the offseason for football right doing boxing.

So that is something that has always been part of its training. I don't know about Adrian Peterson, but I'm not surprised to see Adrian Peterson's name here because sadly Peterson needs the money. Does he really?

Oh, yeah. Oh, he's been he's got millions of dollars in debt because he got into some bad investments and actually ended up taking some bad loans out. Probably just unfortunately as that hasn't been able to pay him back. So he's been in financial trouble even gosh for the last 10 years. He's been a financial trouble, which is a shame for seeing someone that was at the peak of the sport in terms of his position. Peterson was just a stud for a long time.

Yeah, and then I'll leave you on Bell. He's only 30. He didn't play much last year, but he took that year off from, you know, didn't want to sign that franchise tag. He didn't want to sign that second franchise tag with Pittsburgh and then took a year off and been downhill ever since. That was probably a mistake to take a year off from football and basically give away.

What was that? Like 14 million? Oh doing more than that 17.

It was 17. So give give back that money, but he was looking for a long-term deal that he didn't get ultimately got it from the Jets and then stunk and now it's Jets ruined them. Yeah, I think I think taking a year off of football ruined him. That's who I really do. I think that's what ruined him by the Jets would have ruined him if he was the same when he got to the Jets.

He was not. Speaking of money Formula One's getting a lot more of it from ESPN ESPN has extended their deal with Formula One through 2025 somewhere in the range of 75 to 90 million dollars a year. Yeah, it was like 25 million the last time. Oh, it was a three-year 15 million dollar just five million a year like a three-year 15 million dollar contract.

You're signing like a number for defenseman. It's incredibly incredibly user-friendly. Look as a kid that I grew up watching open wheel racing not not NASCAR, you know, whether it was IndyCar, but the Grand Prix's were to me way more interesting the cars cooler. Yeah, the open wheel is pretty neat. And of course the show what I remember the name of the show on Netflix thing is drive to survive, but that has just the sport has exploded since that in a fun way.

Yeah, not like the cars the cars disintegrate they do which is wild. So Amazon as we know is taking over Thursday Night Football their rounding form for their NFL studio teams are adding former defensive back Akib Talib former offensive lineman Andrew Whitworth and Karissa Thompson who actually hosts Fox NFL kickoff on Sundays is going to be doing studio hosting on Thursdays as well. Why do you need a studio for no no other games? I don't know actually they have a desk. Yeah.

Well, I think that's what it is like a desk desk a desk for halftime pregame postgame that kind of thing. But isn't right was a Ryan Fitzpatrick going there or is it Apple? I think it was Apple does Apple have an NFL deal.

I don't remember. I don't think they do know they have baseball and they have MLS. So Ryan Fitzpatrick is also part of the Amazon crew in some way shape or form. I love the fact that it keep to leave as part of it to leave is one of he is a very real voice of NFL football like legitimately as the kids say he keeps it 100 is an entertaining voice. So good for him. So fits magic will be in the broadcast booth with for Amazon Michaels and Kirk Herb Street.

I believe that's who it is. So it's Michaels Ryan Fitzpatrick and his beard and Kirk Herb Street. I can only imagine what he's going to do direct just how to dress up for these.

I'm look I'm for all the fun. I'm for I bet he tones it down. I think he's I hope he doesn't but I bet it up.

I hope he ramps it up even more. Speaking of broadcast Peacock is actually going to be doing something a little bit different for their upcoming broadcast that they have on Sunday between the Tigers and Detroit. The end in Detroit taking on the Kansas City Royals. So they're going to be in Detroit as opposed to having an actual traditional booth. They're actually going to have kind of more like the lack of better term the sideline reporters and some other people actually going around the stadium giving you different camera views different audio sound. They're actually gonna be talking to different guests even Detroit super fans and things along those lines during the broadcast where you can still see the game.

But that's what the commentary is going to be as opposed to a traditional play by play voice. Very nice. I'm I mix. I'm curious to see how this works out again. It's on Peacocks. I don't know what the viewership is going to be like because it's the Tigers and Royals on Peacock. Okay, but I am all for experimenting and trying different things. My guess is they're going to try and do these things to test them out. See what people think and then OK. Can we try this for football? Can we try this during basketball? I think that's what they're going to use these throwaway middle of the regular season baseball games to try and test things out. I think Apple has maybe tried some different things as well with Major League Baseball. Again, the sheer number of games being played in Major League Baseball, you can afford to have one or two games like this. Okay, if it's a mess, fine.

You don't have to do it again. But I do like the experimentation of showing different viewpoints, talking to different people as opposed to just two people sitting up in a booth. Yeah, it's boring.

We should have all of these things. We should like try different things. I'm not a USFL guy. I'm not an alternate football guy. I know the XFL is starting next year, although they did announce that the USFL would be coming back for another year.

What I am looking for out of these leagues is just technology innovation. How do we change the way we watch? I actually think that we should have more athletes mic'd up during the game.

You're not going to air anything live. You'll play it back so that you get whatever vulgarity is there. And we hope there's a lot of vulgarity, but we edit that out and I just think it would be better coverage.

We have to keep people's interest in different ways now. One of the best things Major League Baseball has done, I think it's ESPN that's been doing it, is just miking up players and talking to them during the game. During the game! Which is awesome.

By the way, Premier Lacrosse League did it first. But that's fine. That's fine.

But I actually like it just during play when they had Jose Altuve during the game while he's standing there playing second base for the Astros. They're asking him about his journey. Like, yeah, I got overlooked. I was told not to come back to this tryout.

Almost didn't come back. How long has PLL been doing this? Since they started in 2019. Okay. The NHL All-Star game.

This probably goes back 8, 9, 10 years. I don't know. Ed Belfour was a goalie. Yeah! Belfour was miked up during play and there was a player coming in on a breakaway. And Belfour kind of talked through it. Yeah.

It was awesome. Yeah, we should have that. More of that. I'm okay with it. The more access that we can get to players that they're willing to give us, the better. I'm all for trying different things.

Different platforms. It's fun. Have you heard of John Boy Media? Yes. That's what the whole thing was. There's the TV, the radio call. Here's the fan perspective. Why can't we do this?

Why can't we do this? That's how it all started and look where they are today. Yep. They're fun.

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We'll do that in a second. Because I figured out, just remembered that I had two losing wagers on the Colorado Avalanche, rather on the Tampa Bay Lightning. I will make that adjustment and then we will place our bets.

Dennis, let's do it. Place your bets. Place your bets. I bet you slice into the woods a hundred bucks.

Gambling is illegal at Bushwood, sir, and I never slice. Still at plus 3,045 units. Hey, nothing wrong with that.

Thank you Jerry Kelly for winning that Champions Tour event at plus 2,500 a few weeks ago. But you're fighting back. You're closing it on zero. I'm chipping away. You know, we're gonna throw a party when you get into black figures.

I know. I'm gonna get to a plus 5. Just that's it.

That's what I'm gonna get to. I actually, in game 6 of the cup finals, I lost my futures bet with Tampa Bay to win the series at plus 4.50. But when they took a 1-0 lead in game 6, I was like, alright, here we go. Nope. Didn't work out.

Didn't work out. But hey, I did call a game 5 win for Tampa. You absolutely did.

You absolutely did. Alright, sir, start us off. Okay, for some reason my bets here actually just got deleted off our dock. Did you delete my picks, Adam? Hold on. Just chill out. Just chill out. They're back.

Okay, there it is. Aaron Judge. I thought those were yesterday.

No, no, these are definitely today's. Aaron Judge home run plus 2.20. I had Anthony Rizzo plus 3.80 yesterday and he hit one right in the first inning. Very nice.

I'll take Aaron Judge plus 2.20 today to hit Homer. Alright, coming up in just a little bit, as a matter of fact, that thing's set to start in about 10 minutes. Serena Williams makes her return to Wimbledon. Oh, very nice. Against a French woman named Harmony Tan.

Sure. And she qualified. She went through qualifying to get in. Serena would face a seeded player in the second round. Serena got in on a wild card.

She is unseeded. I'm going to say there will be a tiebreaker in the match. I mean, Serena may win this match in straight sets, but I'm going to say there will be a tiebreaker in the match at plus 2.50. Alright.

It's the only way to get any value out of this match. Well, she's a favorite. It's not a huge favorite.

Okay. But she's a favorite. And I'm not betting against Serena. Not yet. Maybe in round two.

Maybe. Alright, sticking with the diamond, Dodgers, Rockies, Clayton Kershaw on the mound for the Dodgers. I say he gets a win tonight, plus 1.45.

What? Oh, he actually gets a win. He earns a win. A decision.

Yes. Dodgers win, but Clayton Kershaw gets the win. I actually liked, not that I'm doing this, I actually liked the Rockies at plus money at home.

So, I don't know why. Just kind of liked the Rockies at plus money at home, but I'm not doing it. Here is my second wager. Tomorrow, we have a really interesting match. Ryan Peniston is a pretty good collegiate player. He's a Brit, playing at Wimbledon. But I'm going to go with a veteran American, Steve Johnson, to beat him at plus 1.24. That's tomorrow.

So, give me Steve Johnson at plus 1.24 to beat Ryan Peniston. Okay. I'll take your word on that.

Wimbledon, man. Okay. What's the problem? Nothing. Nothing. I have no idea who any of these people are. Wait. Dude. I have no idea. You make Premier Lacrosse League parlay wagers. Yeah, I do.

Three times a week. You did Sunbelt Lacrosse. It was so con, and I got that pick right. Does it matter?

What is the difference? I got that pick right. It doesn't even matter. You're saying, well, nobody knows who these guys are. You're doing like obscure lacrosse games that might actually not be played.

It was high point Richmond. Again? Those teams exist. I know.

I've never seen them. I don't know. You've picked like fifth tier English soccer. I did. I did a Champions League qualifying, the first round of qualifying, which are two teams that are just figments of your imagination. Again?

Exactly. Do those teams exist? I won one of those wagers, though. I know you did.

I did Women's World Cup qualifying. Okay. Well, that makes sense.

Countries that exist. All right. My final one. I'm going to go WNBA.

Okay. Dallas swings over the Minnesota Lynx plus 130. I like that. I like that. All I know is the Seattle Storm.

I'm just a Seattle Storm fan. There you go. All right.

Now I'm going to do one golf wager. Liv. Oh, can you really?

Yes, you can. Really? We're going to go live in a playoff this week. It will be decided by a playoff at plus 330.

Liv to go to a playoff. Okay. It's like there are places that you can bet on that. I mean, it's not fake. It's real.

Yeah. I'm not in any way, shape, or form criticizing the event. This is what you will not, you will not hear me do. It is, it's golf.

Again, I keep, I've said this before. For somebody who on a Saturday morning or a Sunday morning, when I'm doing stuff in the kitchen, I will put on the Golf Channel and watch European tour golf. And that's what it looks like.

You just have to watch it on your laptop. That's what it looks like. It looks like European tour golf. And if anybody's watched European tour golf, like that is what it is.

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