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In our cover story, Conor Knighton visits women who staff fire lookout towers in Klamath National Forest in California. Lee Cowan talks with students about the intense pressures they feel to succeed academically, and David Pogue meets a chorus of seniors who perform rock songs.

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The job of spotting that smoke is left to lookouts like Jodi King watching out over my country here. I love this land is home had on Sunday morning we take a look at lookouts Marley Matlin spent a career fighting for that next big role like any actor would only in her case to fight. She takes on not just for herself but for a whole community. Then banquets sat down with Matlin. She was just 21 years old when she won Hollywood's most coveted broad areas. Marley met best actress in children of a lesser God the first and still only deaf person to win in any category 35 years later she's out to change that with the new movie code.

Marley met her story. Producer Clive Davis pretty hard to top of the music business, but then I report his next production might just land at the top of his storied career and on Saturday headliner's like Paul Simon, Bruce Springsteen and Earth wind and fire are playing a concert in New York's Central Park. Why, because music industry legend Clive Davis asked to who was your first phone call after you draw blood coming up on Sunday morning, putting on blockbuster, always telling about the stresses facing many college-bound student for code David Pogue chats with the young at heart chorus department has a love story give you goosebumps and more on this Sunday morning for 15 August 2021 will be back right after this is a solitary lonely life, but they perhaps never been more central. Connor Knighton takes a look at the fire lookouts high in California's backcountry perched high atop the bolivar lookout in Northern California. Carita nicely spends her summer scanning the skies most days all she sees her clouds and trees, the furs and pines of Klamath national Forest to record a family of deer with her phone hummingbird or two might stop by what she's looking for is smoke is where there's smoke there's fire again tonight with that dramatic and deadly outbreak of wildfires now burning across much of the West.

This year's wildfire season has gotten off to a record-breaking start and we expected to get worse and towers across the country. Lookouts like nicely working to spot those fires before they blaze out of control. This job is very fine unique but it's a very serious job to people's lives property depend on you. This is only nicely as a second-year fire spotting people from Virginia to Northern California to be closer to her grandkids because the grandkids in any take a job on the top of the this is this is my retirement plan five months working in the towers and seven months from May to October, nicely spends four days a week in this one room tower, which serves as home and office 15 SE. two records.

The weather radios and reports and keeps her eyes peeled for lightning strikes. Does it ever get lonely, not really.

I don't get Langley up here and you say pretty busy. Of course, there's still plenty of downtime nicely uses hers to work on her family's genealogy. Lot of people who are lookouts that are riders and that might even be one of the reasons they come to look at what a nice place yes solitary place to continue with your writing. That's exactly why Jack Kerouac took a job as a lookout on desolation peak in Washington during the summer of 1956.

Today those in search of solitude can rent a tower. The Forest Service is made.

Some of the decommissioned sites available for nightly bookings mother were once thousands of active towers across the country these days. Only a few hundred are still staffed. The buildings are expensive to maintain and modern technologies like drones and WebCams have replaced some of the functions of the lookout at a remote rugged forest like Klamath, there are still very much in use.

There are currently eight active towers, two of which recently evacuated nearby fires out here. We don't have that luxury of cell phones and read a lot of praying that people don't see so we rely on them very much comic like check the forest fire prevention officer when you're looking for a lookout.

What are you looking for this reliability is the biggest thing up there there there by themselves when it's a self-motivated and reliable back in 1913.

The forest received an unexpected application from a Miss Hallie more stagnant, she became the first female lookout in Forest Service history and held the position for 15 years is spectacular. Walking Hallie Daggett's boots right and you will appear I get a bring up board Jodi King is the lookout at Eddie Gulch the same location where Daggett served a century ago California native King grew up wanting to be a lookout 10 or 12. I knew this is what I wanted.

It's awesome to watch the forest change from sunrise to sunset its spectacular kings worked as a lookout for 30 years.

Using a tool that was first developed back in Hallie Daggett, Sarah. I'm surprised this is still the way that that you're doing is accurate is perfect. It can't, it can be made any better. The Osborne firefighter invented in 1911 helps lookouts plot the location of smoke so that they can relay those coordinates. The firefighters on the ground. 50% of all fires in the Klamath first identified by the lookouts and given the summer's dry conditions got their work cut out for them. That sense of responsibility is what keeps King coming back. I'm watching out over my country here. I love this land is home.

We all know kids who seem to have an old come from affluent families to go to good schools have good friends and great great. A closer look may surprise you. Things aren't as good as they see as the students often struggle with the very real pressures of privilege. By most accounts, Mercer Island, Washington is an ideal place to raise a family.

That's expensive but just about anywhere near Seattle is but there are perks the public schools. For example, are among the highest achieving state. These kids seem to have everything including your perfect gray color of our class has is over 3.9 or 3.90 sounds pretty good right the students from the class of 2020. Honestly, the timeline Megan Akaka ball Joe Gorham. We talk with them in their last semester before heading off to college was that last bit. College it was first and foremost on their mom. We all tell ourselves that her GPA doesn't define us, but it really does hear the end goal isn't to learn instead so much of, what you guys have been working towards is about getting into a top school. A lot of it all with record low acceptance rate to top colleges. It's pretty well known that students feel pressure to outcompete each other. But what is use the toll that pressure can take you see that manifest itself. Physical tiers and like mental breakdowns from failure what we consider failure, which is really nowhere near what other people would consider and also the fear of failure unexpected to see someone crying in the bathroom are coming to the lunch table and sobbing. Five minutes later clean themselves up and going to class happen close friend of mine was struggling very, very badly, almost took his life in front of me. That kind of mental anguish that stayed largely below the research rate.

In fact, psychologist Sue Luther Prof. emeritus at Columbia University actually stumbled on those drugs back in the 90s. She was studying children struggling and low income families, and she used as a control group students from more affluent schools. Once we generally think capital but they were suffering to what is a think at that point I wasn't even sure it was a real thing to where they all have in common. Unfortunately, what they all have in common is this unrelenting, insidious pressure to achieve, and to the mall not even succeed. But it's relentless and steep succeeding in the ripple effects of that unrelenting stress can be debilitating. Luther spent more than two decades studying the problem. She consistently found students from affluent school are suffering from higher rates of substance abuse, depression and anxiety as much as three times the national nobody putting myself fat them that truly kids who are living in lives of privilege in terms of the education opportunities and homes, 11 neighborhoods and saw that they really could be doing more poorly than the average American can the Robert Wood Johnson foundation now notes that excessive pressure to excel ranks right up there with poverty trauma and termination as factors hurting adolescent wellness to hear that our children. Children that are in high achieving schools and affluent communities have the same risks is really startling Liz Evans and John Martin are both parents on Mercer Island.

Evans is also appealing attrition in our office at least Mercer in pediatrics. We feel like psychiatrists most the time kinds of things to hear from students.

We have kids that cut out of stress. We have eating disorders. The younger children tend to have more somatic complaints, so tummy aches and headaches as they get older becomes more of the substance abuse and suicidality becomes more of a concern. As for Martin, well he's voiced his concerns. Enough about the privileged risk to know what you're probably thinking right about now. So it sounds a little whiny. We start talking about affluence is poor, rich two there there depressed and they're anxious somewhere while to best for you right, you make some good corn you get resources what your problem buddy when that your kids struggling becomes real for many parents and teachers are unaware of just how much stress is hurting because many teens don't talk about to anyone you want to show that you're struggling I want to show that waking up in the morning is an accomplishment for you is that strips you down when you have so much on your plate, they have to prepare capable.

He can't show any signs of weakness or talk to counselor and get help when you're hiding it just becomes worse that lack of openness and communication is what Luther zeroed in she was asked to come to Mercer Island to help students cope with that pressure to succeed have a conversation and if you cannot stand now. I'm so anxious I can't sleep. I'm terrified that's the time when you pull back the child she visited twice, once in 2006 and again in 2019 data she gathered sparked a community conversation but help develop prevention and awareness programs including reducing the stigma around mental health counseling galleries is also shared by the 16th. Like in your class like where's the pressure coming from you think is it from parents as teachers, as it should be put on yourselves secular and NATO on the path with cancer. You think they tried to deemphasize the importance of PPM and honor courses is that it's very difficult really trying to change the culture and like put into our minds when we were in no kindergarten and first grade coven however changed everyone's calculations about everything. And since student stress levels on a whole new roller coaster. Luther and or nonprofit research firm authentic connections surveyed 14,000 students just after the pandemic started last year and what they found was a drop in the rates of serious depression and anxiety are lower instead of higher reminder should not unexpectedly, our group now socially distant students told us exactly that one's not been to bed not having a great deal not express not going around the clock at school, but there are some things that we can't but the respite short just a few months later, schoolwork increased again, Luther found levels of depression and anxiety shot right back up to pre-pandemic levels were worse calls so how we do expect of our young people, but sooner Luther's research is shown that students head back to school this fall. Many of them will be expecting even more of them said that's admirable. Indeed, as long as achievement is the only measure of a young person's worth. I want to emphasize my messages, not kitchens. They tell what kind enough to what time is a point where we value your sanity and your well-being and we are not willing to let that be compromised. This is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states put our mind to something, we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and empirically as our strategic situation or motor situations not being matched up with follow. Intelligence matters were ever you get your podcasts to you with me you can overcome insert silence. Decades after Molly Matlin won an Oscar for her role in the movie children of a lesser God, she still leading the charge for deaf and disabled actors are man in Hollywood. Ben Mankiewicz sat down with Matlin to discuss her upcoming movie and her ongoing crusade juice is 21 years old when she won Hollywood's most broad areas morally met stand that I was a girl from Chicago who appeared on the scene. Out of nowhere.

34 years later, she remains the only deaf person to win an Academy award in any category we set down with Matlin and Jack Jason, longtime interpreter and Fred at her home in LA where when the Oscar the community which is very obviously very thrilled. Certainly, and then they said okay now what would you do for us. It was a heavy load for new film coated now streaming on Apple TV is the story of deaf parents with two children deaf son and a hearing daughter Amelia Jones plays the daughter Matlin mother. It's about a hearing girl who wants to say but she has deaf parents who rely on her to interpret and they always have.

Want hearing actors as the father and older brother and you say I said if you do that future somebody who's going to play a deaf person. I'm a that suggests to me that maybe 35 years after children of a lesser God in 34 years after the Oscar that your little more comfortable making some noise in all honesty I didn't even think I just said it. I put up there playing death is not a cost. We deaf people live.

Matlin gave her a rare opportunity to work in an ensemble cast of deaf actors. It was always sort of as background or token deaf characters and this time we carried the film I was envious. I think my wife was to of the marriage like that's what I write.

That was it good as it gets us nowhere good, most famous person in show business.

Matlin steadily feisty West Wing.

I want to know why the White House is screwing around with me. You can stick around relays and we can sweep together to stick around and we can sleep together. Funny on Seinfeld quickly becoming an audience dancing with wave Chicago suburb, where she grew up deaf child in a hearing family hearing loss was caused by illness and high fevers when she was just one of my childhood was so normal. I was just so happy to have great neighbors. Great schools great friends, great family export. Yes, I am big time. My father and I always watch sports together. He really did need captions to watch sports prepared to molder the weekend arts program for deaf children where the camp director cast eight-year-old Marley as Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. What you think Dr. Pat saw in you that made her think this little girl could be Dorothy. I guess she saw in me. I as a little girl who is very outspoken, who was very much about people person.

A social butterfly.

Maybe, and I don't know.

Or maybe she was just looking for a Dorothy who knows. I don't know, and she found a Dorothy for this Dorothy. There was no place like the stage and she owned it. When Henry Winkler saw her perform at arts Festival for deaf kids when she was 12, Matlin found a lifelong mentor.

He looked at me and said Marley you can be whatever you want to be as long as you believe in yourself and your heart Winkler and Matlin stayed close how close soon after she won the Academy award. Henry and his wife Stacy invited her over for the weekend to show off her Oscar she moved out two years later Henry and Stacy Winkler are a godsend to me.

It wasn't an easy time in Matlin's life like she won the Oscar she'd been out of rehab for a serious drug addiction for just 30 days after the parties got into a limo with her Oscar and her costar and boyfriend William Hurt sit next to me sat across from me looked at me like that.

The Oscar looked at me with the Oscar and he said you realize how many actors have worked for so many years to get what you got that little man in one fell and I didn't want to say I could see your newly sober your 21 Hollywood and you have this enormous highly Oscar win in this devastating low man you love belittling you on the same night. I just know it's hard I know sobriety is hard for anybody. It is the hardest thing I still say to myself one data time. I still do, but if Henry was not in my life in his wife both were the ones who held my hands guided me and didn't let go, and when I said I had to move out. Stacy said Thursday she said what did we do.

They say need to get you to fly the coop.

I need to grow up I need space today. Marley Matlin's life is full.

Whether she's working or not.

She and her husband Kevin Grabowski have four children all here you ever feel isolated in a house with five very people I went to isolated because I'm accustomed to it. Growing up was the same thing but yet I always say when you say or what you talking about. They tell me probably only difference from when I grew up her son Tyler heads to college this week. His mom made sure to show him code before he left is IK doing only watch a movie with Cheryl movie like let's watch coda did you note her watching you. Yes, every time she cut a come on should I just look at him like you're doing great. Don't worry, you know, Marley Matlin, maybe doing great, but there is still work to do. I look forward to more opportunities and not just me but for deaf actors, writers and directors.

People who work behind the camera.

We have a history we have a culture we are part of the diverse continuum so what I do I talk about it. I make noise about it. Thank you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning progress and crazy time was final season is the point is we need people in the best way to protect people final season Millstream exclusively on


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