This Should Scare Every American

Today on Sekulow, we know a new Kamala tax policy proposal, and that should scare every American. Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow.

Alright folks, welcome to Sekulow. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110 and we've got a packed show for you today. Mike Pompeo, Rick Grenell, Tulsi Gabbard will be all joining us live on the broadcast. And first we wanted to get into something that I think is worth everybody understanding. And if they start hearing it tonight especially, understanding the broadening out of the Harris tax and kind of economic proposal. It's something that she's been hit on a lot and something that actually both the left and the right have said, you know, when's the policy coming? When's the policy coming? And we keep getting told it's after the, you know, it's really going to come after the convention but you'll get, you know, bits and pieces of it before. And there are some really scary parts of this policy that have already been announced.

You heard about price controls. Now when people first hear this, you've got to understand that these politicians know that when they are talking in Presidential years, they're talking to voters typically. The ones who kind of tip the scales are voters who do not vote in every single, you know, election or every federal election. They vote, you know, in most Presidential elections and that's about it.

And even those, it's only kind of when they think that there's a, they have a real interest in doing so or nothing, you know, something else doesn't come about in their day or they have time to do it. The line's not too long. But occasionally there's an election that comes around where people are willing to wait in line. This might be one of those on both sides of the aisle because of the historic nature. President Trump obviously has very strong committed supporters.

Kamala Harris, especially you're starting to see, just see the size of the crowds that have started to grow versus what Joe Biden was able to bring in amongst just African American voters in places like Georgia and my home state, like Atlanta, my home city, where again, you're seeing people come out and they're saying in the line, I wouldn't even be waiting in this line if she was not the nominee. But we heard about these things like, well, we'll put in, again, we'll put in price controls on your groceries. Now, if you're not a very engaged voter, you might say, you know what, we need that right now. But what that's doing is two things. One, it's giving up completely on fighting inflation.

But two, it's making it a very dangerous place because guess what? Less people then decide to even enter that market. And when less people enter the market, guess what? Those price controls don't really work. You get junky goods or no goods at all.

And your grocery stores start looking like Venezuela or communist Russia, where honestly, Russia might have better stock stores right now than we might if we went this way. And Will, it's only about to get worse when they talk about people's unrealized financial gains. That's right. So now we're hearing that – I'm talking to a lot of retirees right now. We're talking about a tax policy that has been floated under the Biden administration, but now we're hearing word that the Harris campaign endorses this plan. And what this is, is that one, there would be a 44.6 capital gains tax. So that's after an asset is sold, like stock or a home that isn't – the money's not reinvested into another home within that five-year period. There's a 44.6 capital gains tax, but there's another layer to this, an unrealized gains tax, and they're saying it only applies to the ultra wealthy at this point.

We'll talk with Harry about it. But this would be 25% tax each year on unrealized gains. So if the stock market went up, they would hit you with a 25% on what the market value of your assets are. That's not money you have. That's on paper value. They would hit it with a 25% tax, and we'll talk about what that means with – Where are you getting that cash from?

You're going to be selling assets. I mean, the whole thing, again, bad policies, but they're starting to leak out now. And I think that's, again, why they'll try to fool you with their policies.

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All right. Welcome back to Sekulow. So, again, as you get to the final night of the DNC, of course, this will be Harris' biggest speech probably of the campaign. And I say that because she'll have a debate that will be very important to her, and she'll have other moments along the campaign, I guess, to do interviews. We'll see.

But this is really, again, if you didn't know a lot about Harris or she wants to redefine herself, I think that's probably part two is the important part, redefine yourself as a leader. I mean, they've teed it up for her. I'll give them that as the Democrats. They've kind of walked this up. Their viewership is up from the RNC.

We don't mix numbers here. And, listen, I think there could be some big news tomorrow for Donald Trump. I mean, we talked to RFK yesterday. Even more of that news coming out. We'll wait for tomorrow to see if that really actually materializes into an actual working relationship, I guess we can call it, an endorsement.

We should know probably later in the day, Friday afternoon. But, again, it's been teed up for her. So the next step is, of course, policies, because there are some voters, less and less it seems in America, but some voters who do care about policy proposals and how it will affect them. And we just walked through some of the policy proposals that we're most nervous about and how they could affect you. And, again, this just goes to you economically because we know voters, I mean, you could be a strong pro-lifer, you could be a strong supporter of the First Amendment, Second Amendment, but if you don't have any money, it's tough to even really care about those issues, right?

If you're not able to pay your bills, if your kids aren't living a better life or not able to go to the school they want to go to or pursue the career that you worked hard so that they could pursue. These are real issues facing our country right now. And the big issue is, okay, so tackling inflation. It seems like they've kind of given up on tackling inflation and so now let's tax the rich and we'll go about it in some new ways and more extreme ways than even the Chinese Communist Party does. So, again, you'll ask yourself, if you're a business person, where are you going to invest your money? Are you going to invest your money in the U.S. where they tax you more than China?

Think about that. But I want to go to Harry Hutchinson on this issue because, Harry, this issue of taxing unrealized gains, let's just walk people through what that would mean just so they understand. I want people to understand exactly what we're talking about here because, again, everybody listening, they're not economic experts. And I think that's what Kamala Harris hopes is, that you just hear this and think, this really won't apply to me, it's just going to get more money to me ultimately from rich people.

That's a brilliant question, Jordan. And so I think all of our listeners should note that left-wing tax lunacy is now in the air. And so it is open season on ridiculous tax proposals, which does not necessarily mean they wouldn't pass if Kamala Harris becomes President of the United States. So she's not content with supporting policies that Joe Biden has supported in the past. And so she's quite willing to support policies that are even worse. And the policy initiative that she has basically settled on is to tax so-called unrealized capital gains.

Keep in mind, this is in addition to raising the capital gains tax unrealized income. And so this particular proposal has already been tried in Norway. What has it done to the country of Norway? Well, it's driven wealthy individuals out of the country. Norway is a country of about 5.3 million individuals.

The United States is roughly 61 times larger than Norway in terms of population. And so if her proposal were to pass in the United States, we should expect to lose 1,800 millionaires and billionaires. Why should the American people care about that? Even if the proposal is limited to millionaires and billionaires, those individuals will take their capital with them to other markets. And they will drive down employment in the United States.

Keep in mind, the Biden administration has already revised downward job numbers with respect to the last 12 months by almost a million employees. So this will hurt average working class Americans. But keep in mind that the Democrats have a voracious tax appetite. And so if they enact this policy initially to go after millionaires and billionaires, more likely than not they will expand it to homeowners. So if you own a house in Nashville or in some of the growing markets in the world, you will find, I'm sorry, in the United States, you will find that you will have to pay taxes on unrealized gains in the home that you are still living in. Because the value of the house might rise by $5,000, $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 a year and then you need to write a check to the United States government.

So this is a ridiculous policy which will likely crush the economy and as one commentator points out, it may lead to a great depression. Yeah, I mean, think about that, leading to a great depression, but I'll use my own home as an example here before just to move. And so when we moved to Nashville, Nashville's growing city prices were going up very quickly. We purchased a home and when we sold that home to move into the next home, it had doubled. So what would I have been taxed if this was in place over those five years, that that home doubled in value? It didn't go up just like $10,000 or $15,000 a year, it doubled in value.

You would have paid a tax of 25% on an annualized basis. So if you sit down and you calculate what your tax liability would be, it might prevent you from purchasing your next house. And so on one hand, Kamala Harris wants to basically give a boost to the housing market, which has been somewhat depressed. But on the other hand, she wants to impose an unrealized capital gains tax potentially on homeowners, which would crush the housing market even more. So one of the great things about Kamala Harris is she doesn't understand basic economics. And when asked to explain how her policies will work, she can't offer an intelligible explanation. So part of the problem with Kamala Harris is she is an economic illiterate. So this is where, if you're Donald Trump, and you know, okay, you've got really one opportunity right now to be on the stage with her.

That's it. That's scheduled, which is one debate. If you're going to get into the weeds on any policy, and neither one of them love that, I would say. And now listen, I think Donald Trump understands economic policy a lot better. But if you're going to get into the weeds on policy or push her on policy, this and the price controls are those two issues, I think, right there on economics that could really scare voters away. If you have enough time and the debate moderators allow you to really push her into the weeds on it and see what happens.

I think you're precisely correct. So keep in mind that 76% of independent voters oppose this particular tax. 76% of independent voters.

And so if you think about who decides the next election, it's largely independent voters. So one of the things that I would urge Donald Trump to do is to study up on unrealized capital gains taxes. Ask the American people, are they prepared to pay taxes, for instance, on their 401k? Are they willing to pay taxes on their IRA, on income they have never received and potentially will never receive? Nonetheless, they will still have to pay taxes on it.

Final question on this. Okay, so one year it goes up, what about the next year it goes down? Would you pay this tax yearly, annually, right? So just because you had a good year and so your value went up, but let's say the next year your value went down, you're not going to get a reimbursement, are you?

No. And that's why this is a brilliant proposal for individuals that support tax and spending ideas such as the Green New Deal, which most Americans have opposed. Nonetheless, Kamala Harris in 2019 strongly supported the Green New Deal, which would cost between $52 trillion to $93 trillion. So again, part of the problem is her appetite for spending is unlimited.

Right. I mean, folks, again, when we say it's dangerous, when we say it is scary to every American, it is because you see how this, this again, and they'll try to explain this and say, ah, this is only going to apply to rich people. And that's, that's how taxes always start in America. Now, what they define as rich is, can be very broad. But I will tell you a lot of retirees, you will fall under that category.

And then when they've got through with that money and they want to fund other plans, what do they do? They keep expanding it if you let these programs get a foothold at all. So when we say we're just learning about Kamala Harris's policies, what you are hearing about so far domestically, domestic economic policies are scary enough. And just, I want you to keep these in your mind as you're watching this, as you're talking to your friends and family, these are those points. Come back to the show, re-listen to this segment if you need to go back through it. If you want more, let us know you want more on this. We will get you more on this so that you can explain it to your friends and family. Again, we've got a policy team at the ACLJ and a government affairs team at the ACLJ because of your financial support of the American Center for Law and Justice. Double that donation right now at ACLJ. Welcome back to Secular. We'll get to your call soon.

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What are kind of your thoughts? Tonight is the DNC's kind of their grand finale with Harris. What has been your takeaway so far? I mean, they've got some decent viewership numbers, pretty light on policy, pretty heavy on screaming and intensity and kind of, even though they say they're not demonizing the opposition, it feels like if you're a Republican who's still voting Republican, you have been demonized, or at least they are demonizing you. You're just additional thoughts on the DNC leading up to the biggest night?

Sure. They claim they're trying to unite America, but every speaker who's gotten up there has tried to divide by class or income or by race. Former First Lady Michelle Obama's speech was deeply tinged with racism and hatred. They talk about freedom and joy, and yet they talk about denying basic economic freedoms to every citizen. They deny freedom to kids who are stuck in bad schools to go to the schools that they want to go to. And then, frankly, they get up there and use this word in their last segment, they gaslight America, talking about things they know not to be true, right?

They say we've closed the border, and yet we have more terrorists who have come across our southern border in the last couple months than in the entire four years that preceded that, putting America at enormous risk. And then they also had denial. Denial, there's virtually no mentions of a war that's going on in Europe that happened as a result of President Biden's failure, virtually no conversation about the fact we still have American hostages held by the Iranians in Gaza. So it is a disjointed gaslighting effort, and I think the American people will see it through it, Jordan. Yeah, I mean, that's what's been unique is that the tough issues have not gotten really any discussion at all. I mean, we haven't really gotten a real discussion on what's happened in the Middle East, on what's happened in Russia, Ukraine, what's happening, you know, China, other than that Tim Walz loves to travel, Mike Walz loves traveling there, the governor loves to be there.

But ultimately here, you know, Walz has made his, what I think we saw from him last night is he was the pep talk, he was the coach last night. They tried to put him out as like a different kind of person, so he's not just the goofy guy who kind of comes on stage dancing, which he did a couple nights before, but he could also be the coach in, you know, halftime, the team is down. Said one weird thing I thought was kind of ridiculous, which was like an attack on J.D. Vance was like, well, none of my students ever went to Yale. I mean, so was, is that a great thing? I mean, I think it's great that J.D. Vance was able to come out of the background that he did and go to Yale. I mean, I don't really get that as a slam on people, considering a lot of their leadership in the Democrat Party went to the Ivy Leagues as well. But past that, so Walz gives the pep talk, not a lot of policy. What do you think, I mean, I think Harris actually, because of the other speakers at the DNC who are kind of professional speakers, she's got kind of a higher bar than she had a week ago to hit tonight.

I think that's definitely true. And she has this problem, which is that she's the incumbent for all practical purposes. President Biden has abandoned his role. She's the leader of the free world today in an administration where the President said, I'm not fit to run again. And yet she wants to walk away from everything they've done. No, I thought, I thought again, when I heard Walz speaking about this line about Yale, this jab, right, they come out on stage and tell us they want every American to have the opportunity to dream, to achieve their success. And then someone who did it, Vice President Kennedy, Senator Vance, they want to just take a shot at him and say that's somehow bad. I think Americans who are at their hard working, I think every teacher, my sister and her husband are both teachers, they'd love it if their kids were able to get into a good school. That's their desire. That's why they educate.

That's why my sister spent 40 years as a teacher to try and get kids to have the chance to chase their dreams. I'm confident the American people will see Kamala Harris and Governor Walz for exactly what they are. Two very liberal, very progressive, pro, if not pro-Hamas, at least anti-Israel leaders who don't understand the basic things that drive Americans and cause American families to be successful and cause American families to be challenged. So much pain has been inflicted on the middle class these past four years. Vice President Harris wants to claim she had nothing to do with it and yet wants to say, and gosh darn it, I'm going to fix it next time.

It's not going to fly, Jordan. I'm convinced the American people will conclude ultimately that what they saw for four years in the Trump administration is a much better place to return than to four more years of what President Biden and Vice President Harris have wrought on the American people. And this is unique to me because you see how Biden has kind of disappeared in his role and since she is the incumbent and having to defend the record, even though she'll try to distance herself from some of that. We get from the New York Times a report that the administration's approved a new secret nuclear strategy to confront Russia, China, and North Korea. As someone in the middle of that kind of strategy and those conversations and decision-making in the Trump years, what's your response? I mean, it seems a bit late coming in the Biden administration. Yes, I saw that stray voltage with this woman. She said she wanted to queer our nuclear deterrence or something like that.

I'll have to quote a little bit off. But it shows their naivete, Jordan. It shows how dangerous Vice President Harris would be as the President of the United States. She will elevate LGBTQ issues, climate change, all the things that our adversaries are praying that we focus on instead of building up a strong American military, building up our capabilities, and actually deterring our adversaries from attacking ourselves here in America and our friends.

It is a dangerous path to go down when you don't understand the seriousness of this and you refuse to take your obligation to defend America, our southern border, in a way that President's commanders-in-chief must do. Secretary Pompeo, as always, we appreciate your insight. Folks, just a reminder, during this Life and Liberty drive, this is how we have this team for you today. They're all on today.

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Now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. All right, welcome back to Sekulow. So it's been one long, long nights if you've actually been watching the DNC.

And don't worry, other people are doing it for you. But I did want to give you this update because you might just be interested to know. And Will, you were going through the numbers. They are getting pretty good views. They are getting pretty good views. They've been tracking about 25 to 30 percent above where the RNC was earlier in the RNC. Now the difference there is that the RNC's first nights were tailored like a normal convention would. They're not trying to go for the big numbers. Right.

They kind of slow roll into it. But what we had here was very unique for the DNC is that you had Joe Biden night one, which traditionally no one is watching night one. There was enough people, I think, that were curious about what Joe Biden would say on night one as he's ushered out the door almost literally because he and Jill went to California for a family vacation, didn't hang around the DNC.

So I think there was enough curious about that. And then you had the star power of Barack Obama and Michelle Obama both speaking back to back on night two. That's a very unusual time to put someone of that magnitude. It was on night two for the RNC, Marco Rubio was speaking, who is a big star in presence within the Republican Party. But it's not someone that you can't hear from often because he's a sitting U.S. senator.

He's very out there. Exactly. You don't hear from President Obama and Michelle Obama very often in that forum.

Political punches certainly definitely not. Exactly. So but what the big number is, is that President Trump had twenty eight point four million viewers during his speech. Obviously, there was heightened curiosity because he had it was less than a week since the assassination attempt on his life. So that was a big number that's bigger than any of the numbers the DNC has gotten thus far. You can expect that tonight there will be a large viewing audience curious how Vice President Harris does. As many Republicans say they don't want to watch it. This is one they probably if they're up and they're able to. I mean, I say you're up literally because the DNC is not on the same kind of like timeline as the RNC.

If they get behind like 45 minutes, it just keeps getting behind. But listen, one of the two people is going to be a President. Donald Trump at this point or Harris. And so even if you don't if you know 100 percent, you're not voting for Harris, you're not supporting Harris, you're going to tell people to vote for Donald Trump. Listen, you probably want to at least see what is she kind of trying to communicate to the broader public than this. Just the one that's tuning into cable news and liberal shows and liberal media.

But how she's trying to reach across to just everyday voters who, like I say, don't usually vote in every election, but vote in most or at least some Presidential elections. And those are very important voters every four years. They're not the most important voters in every election, but in Presidential elections, it's really important. Do they sit on the sidelines or not? Do they get out? Do they get out primarily for one candidate?

Do they kind of split? Does it matter if they are a woman? Does it matter if they're men?

Does it matter what what area of the country they are from? And of course, how has she changed the race? And can she live up to the rhetoric, rhetorical abilities of the previous DNC speakers? I mean, even Bill Clinton, who is 78, and now listen, so is Donald Trump. But Donald Trump is a different energy level. He's running for President right now. Bill Clinton's been a former President for a long time. Still a very good speaker. I mean, he definitely not as quick, definitely not as fast, but he's still a very good one. He's still very good at taking a very liberal message and making it not feel liberal, but folksy instead. That's right. He had a very clever line about he's excited for Kamala Harris because then he won't be known as the President who spent the most time in a McDonald's.

He, it showed his charm. That was what captivated people in the nineties. Exactly. To end up in the McDonald's in Washington, DC. I mean, but, but, you know, again, and some of that, like, well, I said, that's done because there are a lot of voters our age in our forties who effectively that wasn't technically the first President when we were born.

It's the first President we remember, and it was pre-9-11 and there were a lot of scandals. There were some scandals and things like that, but it's also, it's kind of like a, it's just a kind of a, a reboot, you know, if you will. We'll be right back getting deeper into the issues on Sekio. Take some calls as well. 1-800-684-3110 with Rick Rinnell.

Welcome back to Sekio. Rick Rinnell is joining us now. And if you've been waiting, okay, we're going to get into it now. And we don't want to spend the entire show. We got told by our listeners, Rick, they've said over and over, don't give us just a full hour on the DNC. They get so much of it, but they do want some. They definitely want our takeaways.

They want takeaways from people like you. So Rick Rinnell is joining us. Remember our team. So Rick, I mean, we've seen again, a lot of decent ratings for the DNC. Of course, more celebrities around. That's not uncommon either for Democrats.

They've pulled out everybody from Bill Clinton to the Obamas. So political celebrities as well as, you know, the music world as well. And listen, even people can laugh about that. I think people can agree. I think Sean Hannity said last night, we can all agree Stevie Wonder is great. That's wonderful. Americans can agree on that. And that's true. But Waltz last night, he showed a different side of himself.

And I think it was done, certainly intentionally, everything is here. He showed the football coach, Waltz. Not the dancing on the stage kind of this goofy Midwesterner Waltz, but a different kind of Waltz who we've been told exists. In fact, by his former opponent and Republican opponent said, listen, don't take this guy as just this goofy, nice Midwesterner. He is a pimple when he needs to be. And I think we got a taste of that last night, which is good for people like J.D. Vance to see, but also for voters to see and Republicans to see.

Yeah, look, this is a distraction convention all week. They're not talking about policy. They're trying to entertain you with John Legend and entertainers and celebrities and Oprah Winfrey, who got up and said she's an independent. To which, you know, we had a real press corps. Somebody would have said, who is the last Republican that you voted for? Because you seem to have endorsed every single Democrat over the last 20 years. She's not an independent, you know, as much as Tim Walz is not a coach.

She's actually an assistant coach. And yet today completely papered over that. So I think the reality is, is they're not talking about the two wars.

They're not talking about inflation. They're not talking about the open borders because they really can't distance themselves from the Biden Harris ticket. Over the last three and a half years, they have literally driven our country into chaos. Multiple wars where we didn't have any wars. We had a border that was secure and now it's completely open.

We had gas prices that were cheaper, grocery prices that were cheaper. And what do you expect? They can't talk about these issues. And so what they do is they bring in their old playbook of the celebrities and the distraction and the funny one liners from all their politicians. But I think that people who turn into a convention who aren't normally political, they're looking to talk, hear from people about what politics is all about. They want to know where do you stand on these political issues?

They're not tuning in to be entertained. And so that's where I think the Democrats have completely collapsed in their messaging because they're only emphasizing that they can't talk about the substance. I think to me it was Bill Clinton who has got a unique gift of kind of taking very liberal policies. Even though the party moved even much further left than when he was President, you can look at that just based off his policies. But he didn't really talk about anything that happened under Biden at all. He talked a little bit about Obama and those issues.

Like you said, they're not even trying to defend the Biden administration, but they're hoping we'll say it like that instead of calling it what it really is, which is the Harris administration. I think Mike Pompeo was just calling her. She is an incumbent.

It's not just a statement to say that. She's the incumbent vice President, now leading candidate for President. Yeah, certainly her policies are on the ballot and they're running from the policies. I thought Bill Clinton last night, really the story was that he was uninspiring. I thought there was a collapse of Bill Clinton. I didn't see him really invigorate the crowd. And I think the other story too is you had people like Pete Buttigieg, who Mayor Pete showed up and his speech was all about himself and how great he was and how great his family was.

He had a couple of one-liners that were supposed to be funny. But the reality is they're not talking about Kamala Harris or Tim Walz's policies. They can't.

They cannot justify why they funded Iran and then Iran turned around and funded a disastrous war, which is getting worse. And let's highlight one thing. The uncommitted Arab women who were promised a speaking spot and then were told at the last minute you don't get a speaking spot, they announced they cannot support Harris. I think last night it was obvious that Kamala Harris is not going to win Michigan. She can't.

There's a total collapse of her support in Michigan. And so I think we're missing some of these really key moments on the substance. Listen, we have time because obviously the DNC is taking up, I can't imagine most of our folks, even I, and this is part of my job. I can't literally do my job for the ACLJ and sit there for the hours of just kind of filler that I feel like I'm getting to get to the speech that is still really just a lot of filler. And most people are going to consume it in soundbites and comments by people like us.

And it's like, you know, it can look good, but did it mean anything? And I think what you're saying is like these backstories are going to be really important, especially next week, because we still have that time to tell these stories. I mean, it's about a month till people start early voting in some states, which is wild, but we still have time to like tell those stories about Michigan, the stories that are not going to be on the front page right now. Yeah, we've got a lot of time and don't forget something that happened this week that I think was, you know, I don't know exactly what's going to happen on Friday, but when RFK Jr. announces that he's got a major announcement on Friday, make no mistake, he didn't plan that for Thursday because he realized this is the Democratic convention.

He planned that for the morning after the Democratic convention to completely change the narrative. I believe the race could be reset. If Kennedy drops out on Friday and comes close to complimenting Donald Trump or endorses Donald Trump, that is a disaster for this whole week long of entertainment at the Democratic convention because they just got wiped out on substance.

Let me ask you that because this is what we've been talking about here. If something close to that happens, right, if it gets to an endorsement, I think it's 100% almost wipeout. You take coverage of the DNC that would have been 100% of the news through the next three, four days, at least through the weekend shows and maybe even half of next week, and you wipe all of that out because the news knows one thing. One, they got to get ratings. You know who gets ratings?

Kennedy's. Kennedy's and Trump's especially, and if that happens the day after, it doesn't even matter what Harris does tonight. Seriously, you don't want to always plan for that because, again, we're not 100% sure what's going to happen tomorrow, but if it does, and if anybody's listening and worried about it, if you can do that, it is an unbelievable move to kind of take their bump and completely make it disappear. I think it also shows just how silly their week was. We spent a lot of time saying, oh my gosh, the Democratic roll call was so much better than the Republican roll call, to which I was like, maybe, but that doesn't matter.

We have two wars going on, and then it was, look at all these celebrities, and John Legend is doing a Prince cover, and I was like, well, that's kind of interesting, but still you're not talking about inflation. And now what they're trying to do is say that, well, we're full of joy. The Democrats have a convention full of joy, and I'm thinking, well, on Friday, you're not going to be too joyful. Killing babies outside for free. That's a really, really joyful convention. I think on the first day of their free killing bust, they killed 25 babies.

It was 25, right. And Rick, also that question that we've seen, not only was there no substance, but there was a Norwellian theme throughout this entire convention where they're redefining terms before our eyes. The very first two nights, it was abortion. They expanded the concept of abortion from a procedure that ends a pregnancy and a life to make abortion all reproductive healthcare. And then we see how they're trying to redefine the term freedom.

There is a little bit of a sinister edge to this entire DNC mixed in with all the pomp and circumstance and entertainment. How about the phrase gender affirming care for children who go through drastic surgeries and hormone replacements? That's called gender affirming care.

This is akin to calling a place where you get to break immigration laws and be protected and not be prosecuted and suddenly we call that a sanctuary city. Right. No, I mean, listen, I can't wait, Rick, to get your thoughts. Maybe we can get Rick back on tomorrow if he's got Abel on the Harris speech to see if they realize they've got to go a little deeper, if they think this is their best. Because they know something is possibly coming Friday too. I mean, they're not idiots, they know. And they've got it, so do they have to say something, do something that keeps them in the news cycle at least.

Because if it's just a blah speech, she's given a lot of blah speeches that are not very great, that are even overshowed by the previous speeches, the media is going to move right on to Kennedy's because Kennedy's get a lot more ratings. All right, folks, one more segment coming up, Tulsi Gabbard on her targeting this Quiet Skies program. We've got an update for you there on that very important ACLJ representing Tulsi as a colleague in this matter. Again, we encourage you to support the work of the ACLJ.

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Donate today. We need your support. All right, folks, welcome back to Sekulow. It's great to have Tulsi Gabbard joining us, member of our team here on the Sekulow broadcast, a colleague, also someone we are representing in this Quiet Skies program.

Tulsi, a couple of updates. I don't want to get too far into it for you, but as your attorney, we're seeing the documents that you're receiving as well. And one just stuck out to me, and I think we told today there was some of this really scary stuff in the Harris economic proposals. This is some really scary stuff when it comes to people's civil liberties. And it's horrible that it's happening to you.

It's horrible that it's happening to your husband. But when you see that it's happening, the majority of this program, and we don't have to get to the specific number, but what we know from the letter you received from the TSA and Homeland Security is that the majority of people being targeted by this program, vast, I am talking as vast as you want to think, have no relation at all to anyone that has any relation at all to anyone who might be a terrorist, which is the only people who are supposed to be on this list. You know, this is egregious on so many levels, but really when you think about a couple of major, major points that every American should be concerned about.

Number one is just the waste of taxpayer dollars being expended on weaponizing our law enforcement agents and agencies to go after target and surveil innocent everyday Americans. When you look at for some of the things that the air marshals are looking out for when they're on these planes, monitoring these people that the TSA has put on this secret domestic terror watch list. It's things like, are they looking at their phone?

Do they get up to use the bathroom? Are they going to going to sleep on a flight? It's just ridiculous. And I understand why these air marshal whistleblowers are so frustrated. And frankly, why the Federal Air Marshall Association has been fighting for years to shut down this Quiet Skies secret terror watch list program because they know it's a colossal waste of money. But secondly, and, and maybe most importantly is, is the TSA and Homeland Security taking this approach means they're targeting everyday Americans rather than focusing time, energy, money and resources on those who actually pose a real threat to the safety, security and freedom of the American people. We know both because of the Harris Biden administration's open border policy. And for other reasons, we have sleeper cells of Islamist terrorists here in America.

Why aren't they tracking them? Yeah, I mean, this is this is why I don't understand, you would think that that would be enough work, right? So to work on just those sleeper cells, groups who might again, especially when you brought it out to people who have connections to these potential terrorists. Again, that that's a that's a category that should give this, all these employees enough work, whether it's research, instead of just broadly tossing Americans onto this list.

I mean, totally. I've literally after I went through this letter, I said, you know, we need to tell people on our show, if you've had if you travel a lot from work or from business, or even your personal life, and after, you know, a handful of trips, you've got that same that quad S on your ticket, or you can't check it online. You've noticed that there's been more security around you and they're going through your luggage piece by piece, you need to contact us at ACLJ.org slash help. Because when we saw the amount of people that are on this list, for no reason at all, just the percentage, we realized it is the vast majority of people and Americans on this program have told see no business having their civil liberties violated every time they fly.

You're exactly right. And this this kind of drives home to the point of this Quiet Skies secret terror watch list is just one of many that our government has in many different agencies. It's one of the many ways they are violating our civil liberties and our Fourth Amendment constitutional rights. And they tell us and members of Congress are from both parties are guilty of this to the national security security state tells us, well, we need to do this, we need to violate your civil liberties in order to keep you safe.

Just accept it, just swallow it. This is not a choice that any of us needs to make, nor is it one that we should accept from our leaders, both politicians and bureaucrats. Their responsibility is to uphold the Constitution, every one of them elected and unelected take this oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

That means they have a responsibility and obligation to the American people to uphold our Fourth Amendment rights, our First Amendment rights uphold the Constitution, and also do their job to ensure our safety and security for anyone to say we have to choose between the two. It's a false choice. We must reject them and demand better. Tulsi, while we still have you here, just a couple minutes left, we couldn't let you go without getting your take on what you've seen at the DNC this week. Obviously, we know Vice President Harris speaking tonight. But just what are your thoughts and what you've seen from your former party? You know, what I see is a whole lot of hypocrisy. You know, the Democrats are very savvy and very sneaky.

You'll see the theme throughout these past few days. And what we'll hear from Kamala Harris tonight is how now somehow they are the party of freedom, that somehow now they are the party of compassionate border security. That they are the party that somehow cares about the little guy, the working man and woman in this country, when in every one of these examples, the opposite is true. The Biden-Harris administration, or rather the Harris-Biden administration, has taken measures to violate almost every one of our constitutional rights, our right to free speech, our right to freedom of religion, the targeting of Christians and Catholics, people of even minority religions. They're targeting of our civil liberties and our Fourth Amendment rights. They're targeting of our Second Amendment rights. This is a party that not only does not believe in freedom, their whole focus is trying to take away our freedom in order to gain more power. We've got to look at their record, don't listen to their rhetoric in order to know the truth about who these people are and how far they are willing to go to abuse their power, violate our constitutional rights, also that they can stay in power and try to dupe the American people into believing that they are on our side. They are not.

They only care about themselves. So we've got to be very clear-eyed. Again, look at their actions, look at their record. Kamala Harris has been in office for the last three and a half years. She has a record. They're going to try to make us believe that she's coming in with a clean slate.

She is not. She's got a record that we have to confront her with and make sure that voters know the truth before they cast their votes on election day. Well, see, we're proud to call you a colleague. We're proud to represent you. And I think what we are seeing now is, again, in this representation of you and your constitutional rights, that we'll be able to protect a lot of our members and supporters at the ACLJ's constitutional rights as well.

And thank you for that insight, too, into the DNC. Folks, let me tell you this. We said that numbers. I really want you to think if you're traveling a lot for work, if you travel a lot to visit family and you're getting this kind of security treatment similar to what happened at Tulsi, don't just think it's by accident or random. Now that we just saw this letter that Tulsi received, the amount of people who are on this list who should not be on this list is the vast majority of people.

Vast majority of people. A shockingly high number of people who have no connection to anyone whatsoever and should not be treated this way. Their civil liberties are being violated.

If you feel that way when you travel on airlines, you need to contact us at ACLJ.org slash help. And this is this is horrendous, this violation of civil liberties. Where are all those liberal civil liberties groups with these with these programs? They've just disappeared into the leftist state. We need your support at the American Center for Law Justice, though, you know, we are behind a little bit financially.

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