Ukrainian Nazi “Hero” Gets Standing Ovation From Politicians

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Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. Before you give people awards, it's always good to think through your statement, even the comments, the words you've already prepared before giving them an award. So you've got Zelensky, he goes to the Canadian Parliament to be feted as a hero for freedom and democracy around the world. And they bring forward a member of the Canadian Parliament. I think the Speaker of the Canadian Parliament brings forward an elderly gentleman who is a Ukrainian immigrant who fought for the 1st Ukrainian Division but had another interesting past. Let me first play you how he was introduced to the Canadian Parliament. We have here in the chamber today Ukrainian Canadians, Ukrainian-Canadian world veteran from the Second World War who fought the Ukrainian independence against the Russians and continues to support the troops today, even at his age of 98. His name is Yaroslav Honka, and I was going to say he's in the gallery, but I think you beat me to that. But I'm very proud to say that he is from North Bay and from my riding of Nipissing Tumiskaming. He's a Ukrainian hero, a Canadian hero, and we thank him for all his service.

Thank you. If you would have just thought for a moment about why this Ukrainian has been hiding out in Canada most of his life, you may have picked up in his comment that he said he was part of a Ukrainian brigade that fought the Russians during World War II. Remember who allied with the Russians to defeat a certain brigade?

It was the United States and Russia who united, fighting who? The Nazis. The Canadian Parliament, Winston Zelensky there, recognized and gave an award and applause to a Ukrainian Nazi who was part of the SS division of the Waffen-SS, whose job at once was to hunt Ukrainian Jews and kill them.

Yes, obviously we put the videos, we put the photos up there, but the division was known as the Waffen-SS, which fought for the Nazis as its paramilitary arm under the, I'm just going to not say that, where it is, organization. But exactly, you have these groups coming out of Canada, obviously we know this, but it shows you a clear lack of understanding of history. They're like, oh, Russia bad. Russia bad, Russia historically bad. So Russia must be, if this is a Ukrainian fighting a Russian, it must be a negative.

It must be good. Why wouldn't this Ukrainian be fighting a Russian? This is why the Ukraine stuff has gotten out of control. I mean, this is how it gets out of control. You start not even remembering history.

I mean, if I was him, the words out of my mouth have been saying that going, oh no, and not even said it. You would have questioned this nine-year-old who fought the Russians. Okay, if you fought the Russians and you're that age, you were likely a Nazi. Just the only other side to be on. And he was part of a brigade within this brigade, this Waffen-SS brigade, that was specifically responsible for a murder of Jews and was declared a criminal organization during the Nuremberg trials. You don't even know how these people are walking around freely, to be honest.

I mean, even beyond. This is that Ukrainian derangement. They found a Ukrainian who fought against Russians once, but they didn't do their history right. And by the way, they are also not trying to cover somewhat for this. They're having to issue big apologies. It's not like we're creating some sort of right wing or conservative spin on this.

They are having to issue apologies saying, yeah, we didn't look at our facts. And they're like, but Zelensky didn't know. We wanted to surprise him.

It was like a big happy birthday surprise. Here's your fellow Ukrainian. He's a Nazi.

I mean, it's not laughable, but it is. Because again, like you said, it shows a complete lack of awareness of anything historical. They have had to, yes, they've had to apologize. Will he be arrested as a war criminal?

Many former Nazis have, but still are. Being hunted around the world, he came right out. And he was exposed in the Canadian parliament. Fed it. And everybody realized what they had done. We'll take your calls.

1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secular. So we have someone joining us who's an advisor to our team, Rick or Nell, who understands when you have events, when you're acknowledging people and when you're going to bring people forward and whether it's your parliament, your government, your Congress or your country, you better know the history before you have everybody stand up and applaud them, especially when you have another world leader there. And Rick, a fairly embarrassing, a very embarrassing moment for Canada. This happened on a very important Jewish holiday too, Yom Kippur. And they end up unknowingly, even though they're kind of like saying it as they unknowingly do it, vetting a former Nazi while Zelensky visits the Canadian parliament.

It feels like I can't make that up, but it's the truth. Look, this is not a local government. This is not a state government.

This is the federal government of Canada. That is a real problem. You got to have basic vetting. You have to know who you're inviting, especially if you're going to invite someone to speak to such a prestigious organization, governmental entity.

This is really something that could have been solved with a simple Google search. It's embarrassing, but it also, I think, fits a pattern, Jordan, in that we don't see the proper vetting, I would say, from Canada. Canada has consistently gone woke, consistently gone very left, and they rush into invites, they rush into policies that I think are showing that this government in Canada needs to get its act together. To me, Rick, as the speaker of the parliament there is reading this out, he's literally listing, he says that during World War II he fought the Russians. And you think, okay, right there, that should raise some red flags because the US was united with the Russians in fighting the Nazis in World War II. So what side was he?

Alone, but it didn't stop them. It took them, I guess, that afternoon when a Jewish group pointed out who he was, and they knew exactly what division within the SS he was part of. Look, there's no question that they knew this before the afternoon. They were racing to kind of figure out what did they do, is it going to be big enough where they have to apologize.

But you're exactly right. I mean, people sitting in that audience, when you immediately hear what side he's on, you know exactly who he is. Any student of history would know, anybody who's been through a history class. And so, make no mistake, they knew this immediately. They just took a long time to figure out the response. And this is the same thing that I don't think it's too much of a stretch to talk about the truckers trying to petition the federal government in Canada.

This was a disaster all the way along, and they try to blow it off. There's no accountability. It's this elite mentality inside the government of Canada that thinks that they can get away with doing things like this.

And to be honest, they can get away with it. The media in Canada are not holding Trudeau accountable, and we know that to be true. And we hear conservatives in Canada constantly complaining about this. But this is our neighbor to the north, who has big influence on American policy, and we need to be able to point out the problems so that they can fix these problems and concentrate on having a better government that's not so elitist.

I think the problem with this, or really sort of the thing that makes you smirk a little, is it just checks so many boxes in like one sentence in the title of things that you could say or not say or what it would be. So it's, you know, our issues with Canada with Trudeau and his free speech pushback. You have then, all of a sudden, our situation in Ukraine. And like we were talking about last week, I think a lot of people need to realize, and our government needs to realize, that American people also shift their feelings. There are a lot of people that were on board with the Ukrainian war up front and wanted to see us support it, and then said, okay, the time has moved. We've gone so long.

There's no endgame in sight. Let's change. Let's adjust.

So we have those two words. Then all of a sudden you have the Nazi word, which is what's been being thrown around rapidly, and the difference is this time it's actually Canada celebrating a Ukrainian Nazi, and they have to own it. Maybe the best part about this is there's not a way to spin out of it for the Canadian parlor of people, but the only spin they have is we didn't tell anybody it was a surprise.

That's their only spin out. Logan, I think that you hit on something really important, which is the Ukrainian angle here. There's been a lot of talk from people that there is a Nazi active party inside Ukraine, and we've seen some of these flags. We've seen some of these specific examples, and it's very troubling because the American taxpayer is paying for this.

I think you're exactly right. Most Americans want to help the good guys, and they feel like Putin is the bad guy, but at the end of the day, giving $125 billion to a country like Ukraine that is notoriously corrupt does not immediately give you the sense that you're on the side of the good guy. We need to understand that Russia is a problem. Putin is a serious problem, but there are other ways, and certainly we need to have a peace plan right now because there's too much killing.

America should be on the side of a peace plan. Yeah, I think this has happened now a few times. This even happened with the Hollywood support. You remember Mark Hamill, Luke Skywalker, who is notoriously very liberal, obviously a big Star Wars fan, but he did a big Zoom call with a bunch of people in Ukraine, and behind him are these Nazi symbols of Ukrainian militias, if you will, or organizations. He obviously was unaware, but again, it's this good and bad guy scenario. It's gray. It can't always be that cut and dry.

Can I add one thing to this, which is really important? I've been talking to US senators who are very concerned about the intelligence agencies and trying to figure out who's paying for this. Is it American dollars that are going to pay for some of this troubling deals that have been done?

Clearly, the Ukrainian military is cutting deals with all sorts of groups to help them, and yet American tax dollars should not be going to fund Nazi organizations, even if those Nazi organizations are somehow aligned with the Ukrainian government against Russia, against Putin. This is a terrible situation, and I know that the Senate is looking into it feverishly. Final question for you, Rick, is we're hearing a lot about the government shutdown, how they're going to play politically, but we're being told, and I think this is why people get upset about these shutdowns.

It doesn't matter what side you're on. They're saying they're going to shut it down, but they will exempt the Ukrainian funding, so that's not a real shutdown if you can still get money to a foreign government, but yet Americans won't get their checks. Yeah, look, I think that government shutdowns are really dicey because there are certain American people that need to be paid. The military certainly needs to be paid. We've got to figure out our border crisis, and we certainly can't stop paying border patrol agents. And I think every American understands that in these short government shutdowns that the federal bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. get a vacation, and they always get their back pay, so they get a vacation plus their back pay. We've got to figure out a better system in that when there is a government shutdown that there are consequences, not just days off. All right, Rick, as always, we appreciate all of your insights.

This, again, just a shocking story of just bad planning, bad work done, and we thank you for everything and all of your insight. Logan, I think, too, these government shutdowns, when you hear that, you say, but we can still fund the Ukrainian war. This gets exactly your point.

People would say, well, how is that possible? If the government shuts down, doesn't it have to shut down? And what you realize is the elites can keep paying for their wars.

You just won't get your Social Security check on time. Yeah, I think the idea of a government shutdown, the way that we've been doing this, is just a waste and annoying and pointless. And I'm sick of it, truthfully. I think that it's an empty threat. What you're doing, you're shutting down, what, some monuments? I mean, we've got to get beyond this kind of thing in the United States of America because, like you said, if you're able to carve out exemptions and all this, then what does it matter? We have to move forward. That's what we're going to move into the next segment. We're going to talk a lot about that government shutdown that's coming in and what the taxpayers, where your money is going to go, what happens to it during it. I think people need to understand the concept of a government shutdown when you are just a year out from a Presidential election, when you are two days away from a Republican debate that's happening. There's so much happening when you hear the looming government shutdown.

What does it actually mean? We'll break that down coming up in the next segments, but we are going to take your calls. If you have questions about that or the situation in Ukraine or the situation in Canada, give us a call. 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110.

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Welcome back to Secular. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. What we talked about a little bit with Rick Rinnell just at the end of that interview with Rick is that in the midst of a potential government shutdown at the end of this month, which is rapidly approaching, it's just this weekend, that don't worry, your funding to Ukraine will continue, but your grandmother may not get her Social Security check. Yeah, I think people need a breakdown not only how that works, but even how the government shutdown works to begin with. What gets them there and then what does it actually do? What does it actually cause the American people? So it usually works in phases.

And why? Why do we even have this system where the government even can shut down? They don't pass the budget. So if they don't pass the budget at a Congress which has the power of the person on time, then they can't pay their bills. So they can't pay their bills, they haven't authorized the money, so what they're telling you here is that they are prioritizing a foreign country over Americans. I don't know how that plays well to anybody on either side of the aisle, Republican or Democrat. I do understand some of the concerns and issues that Republicans have with these budgets and these out-of-control spending when there's nothing being done on the border and the money's going to Ukraine.

But see, it's interesting to me. When a government shutdown occurs, the Border Patrol won't get their paycheck on time, but the Ukrainians will get their check. Yeah.

I think that this is where the American people have to look at the situation and realize how absurd the entire shutdown process really is. I think that's something we need to take a look at from a much broader point of view. Let's go ahead. Do you want to go ahead and take a call?

Yeah, absolutely. And hopefully this encourages you to call, by the way. And their phone lines are open. 1-800-684-3110. We'd love to hear from you on this Monday. Elizabeth's calling on Line 1.

Watch it on YouTube. You're on the air. Hey there. I just wanted to say I'm personally sick of funding this Ukraine war. And I'm just wondering what your thoughts are about us continuing to fund this Ukraine war. I hear the Congress people saying, you know, we have to continue funding this war. The President says that. And China's watching.

And I just feel like it's just a matter of time before China invades Taiwan. Then we'll have to be funding two wars. So I'm just wondering kind of what your thoughts are about continuing to fund the war. Listen, I think without an explanation of how this war comes to an end, you have to question the funding.

Again, I think, Logan, like you said, you couldn't really find a person in a country who didn't say that we should do something first to try and prevent this conflict. Then the Biden administration really wasn't doing anything. All they were doing was telling us that war was coming. So they already failed there by preventing the bloodshed from beginning of the invasion. This is the second time Biden has been part of an administration that has allowed Ukraine to be invaded. But then when we started funding Ukraine, it wasn't clear.

It still is not clear how do we get to an end. When John Kirby was asked about it last week, he said, well, this isn't the same kind of endgame because U.S. troops aren't fighting this. But U.S. dollars are. And it is hurting the U.S. economy. I mean, inflation is up.

Gas costs more. People are hurting here at home. Because there is a war going on in Europe that we are the number one funder of. And the only thing you can tell us is, well, we don't really need an endgame because U.S. soldiers aren't getting killed. Right. You're saying, well, we're not really directly involved.

I mean, that's always the answer, it seems like. Look, I think there's a lot of people who are also watching right now. Maybe you want to call in. Maybe you heard that first segment where you heard the issue in Canada where they were celebrating honoring someone who fought, a Ukrainian who fought against the Russians. Was that right now?

No. You're talking about someone who fought against the Russians in the 40s, in World War II, which means what? This was a member of the Nazi party. This was someone who fought for the SS.

How does that make you feel? Maybe you have family who fought. Obviously, if you did fight in World War II yourself, if you're a vet listening, there are still, I think, quite a few still out there. But if part of your family is there, we'd love to hear from you too.

1-800-684-3110. Just really the disrespect and the lack of American history, or even North American history, world history, with what World War II meant, who was on whose side. And it can't be this, Jordan, it can't be this black and white where you just hear buzzwords like Russia and you think bad. Ukraine, you think good. And historically, that's not how it's worked for anywhere in the world, by the way, not just in Russia or Ukraine. You're talking about most areas of the world have had times where they are the good guys, if you want to be, and maybe the bad guys on the other, depending on how history is defined.

Yeah, that's right. I mean, so again, I think that this has been, this whole issue, and the American people have not had the opportunity to hear from our leaders a clear message of why. And I think even people, even Republicans who have been supportive about Ukraine, it's really, you know, they can say all they want, but they're not in charge. So what you really need is you got to hear from Biden himself a sell on this. Why are we in this for the long haul? Why are we in this with no end in sight?

Don't tell me don't worry because no U.S. troops are getting killed. I mean, ultimately, you are draining the U.S. economy. So what is the purpose of draining the U.S. economy? What is your endgame here?

Is it, like Donald Trump said, just as people stop getting killed? That doesn't seem to be the endgame. The endgame seems to be more offensive into Russia. The endgame seems to be, and I don't even like to use this word, but it's one that Washington loves, Logan, regime change. Yeah.

And we don't even know what regime change in Russia would look like. Yeah, for sure. Let's go ahead. I want to take this call. I think this kind of ties into, let's go to Bill who's calling in Indiana on line three. You're on the air. Yes. It's my understanding that when the U.S. government gives funding to another country, that it goes through the State Department, of which the agency for international development is a part of, and since the embassies closed in Ukraine, how is the money, all these billions of dollars, how is it being distributed to the government in Ukraine?

Let me tell you. So the U.S. government has no problem in figuring out how to distribute money for your taxpayer dollars. So if they can't go do it the normal way, which might be when the embassy is open, it is either your embassy is back open in Kiev, or we may have relocated it.

A lot of times that's what you do is you relocate. This is military to military. This is not just non-lethal aid going through some State Department program to build schools.

This is weaponry going from the Department of Defense and being delivered by U.S. aircraft, typically into Poland, and then taken across with trucks and different transport vehicles. But I will tell you this. No doubt, Bill, they will always figure out a way to get your money to another place.

Don't ever worry about that. That's why they've said that even the government can shut down. They'll still do it. But Ukraine will still get its money. They'll keep that person. Like the guy working security. Border Patrol won't get its money. Yeah, Border Patrol won't. The guy working security at the Martin Luther King monument. I love that too. Congress has to stay at work and the lights are off and the trash piles up because they can't pay the people to come in and throw trash.

But literally, some guy who's in a neo-Nazi Ukrainian group is going to get his military equipment. It's insane. Hey, we're taking more calls.

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Maybe you wouldn't be surprised if you're one of our listeners, but the fact that ABC put this out and, of course, what they had to do to even backpedal themselves. Give us a call. 1-800-684-3110. Also, Jordan, we are in the middle of all these 14th Amendment battles at the ACLJ. We will make sure people know how to support. That's right.

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That's 1-800-684-3110. Switch to a little bit of back politics here in the United States, Logan. A new poll out. Not a Fox News poll. No, a couple new polls.

Yeah. It's a Washington Post ABC News poll and an NBC News poll. And they're already denying that their own polls are good, by the way.

Yeah, I love it. They're like, you know, this could be an outlier. Don't freak out just yet. Joe Biden trailing Donald Trump nationally by 10 points.

10 points. Now, I have to say, we obviously know historically how polls are, so they're not necessarily wrong, but this is starting to become a big number and a big wake-up call potentially for Democrats to figure out what they're going to do for the next year. How you rebuild a Joe Biden brand leading into what is starting to become, you know, the margin of error starts to become smaller and smaller when it becomes 10%. And that, again, came out of ABC News. Also, there was a disapproval rating coming out of 56%. That was the one that came out of the Washington Post, ABC News, and NBC News. But the 44% of ABC News said they're worse off than they were for any other President, they've said, since Ronald Reagan. It's a really interesting number to see. There's a bunch of you breaking down, but the big ones, the big ones show that they are unhappy.

And right now, in a head-to-head, you would have President Trump defeating a President Biden by nearly 10%. We are obviously a while out, you're a week or a year out still from that even being something we discuss, but it should be alarming. It should be a wake-up call.

That also comes on the heels of people like Gavin Newsom and all, still trying to kind of, they're still keeping their brand alive. He's showing up. He's showing up and he's doing stuff.

Oh, yes. He's going to the Republican debate. He's a smart guy.

I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but from political strategy, and I think his state is a complete nightmare right now. He's showing up at interesting places. He's making interesting statements. He's vetoing interesting bills.

That happened all last weekend. He's vetoing things that would become historically very left-leaning, but he's making some statements that maybe hopefully can siphon off some of those more moderate liberal voters. If it comes around where they say, we are so behind in the polls, we have to do something, and maybe you throw it to Newsom.

I don't see that happening still, but it is crazy that you have that big of numbers. What do you think about that, that President Trump is up 10%? And again, ABC says, I don't know, you know, this is our poll. I mean, this is from Washington Post.

I'll read it to you. The Post-ABC poll shows Biden trailing Trump by 10 percentage points at the early stages in this election cycle, although the sizable margin of Trump's lead in this survey is significantly at odds with other public polls that show the general election at a virtual dead heat. The difference between this poll and others, as well as the unusual makeup of Trump and Biden's coalitions in this survey, suggests it's probably just an outlier. But they still had to report it. Their whole poll that they funded in their whole polling department was trash. Right.

It was trash. They trashed their own people because it didn't fit the liberal narrative, that Donald Trump could be easily beaten, so don't worry if Joe Biden is the candidate. He can win from his basement again. Now, what I will say is flip that also, and don't be the person who takes this as a, well, we're going to win.

Yeah. Because that happens too. They're national polls, so you don't win elections that way. You've got to win states to get electoral votes.

Yeah, we have a bald beagle children's video that I think a lot of you guys need to watch about how that all works. For a lot of people who don't really still understand the electoral college, we break it down pretty close. And it was called right-wing extremism by some bloggers and things, so I think you'll like it. Just explaining? Yeah, just the fact that we said the electoral college, maybe not a bad thing. Oh, that states have representation?

Yeah, that maybe makes it a little fair. Yeah, without it, if you lived in a state with a small population, you wouldn't get it in budget issue. It would be controlled by New York and California. That would be maybe a little Texas here and there. Florida, depending on the time period. Yeah, exactly. But really, LA and New York.

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That's 1-800-684-3110. I'm going to be on Sean Hannity's radio show, talk about Menendez a little bit. He gave a press conference earlier today.

People, listen. I've got questions about the timing of the indictment, but he also did a press conference. It was some bizarre statements.

He always takes out cash like that, so you can always find him with $200,000 or $300,000, but he said that this is interesting because he's got family in Cuba and occasionally needs cash to help them out in situations. I'd have to fact check that. Will's fact checking it now. You want to hear the bite? Sure.

Yeah, we can play it. On Friday, the Southern District of New York brought charges against me. I understand how deeply concerning this can be. However, the allegations leveled against me are just that, allegations. For anyone who has known me throughout my 50 years of public service, they know I have always fought for what is right. My advocacy has always been grounded in what I learned from growing up as a son of Cuban refugees, especially my mom, my hero, Evangelina Menendez.

Everything I've accomplished, I've worked for, despite the naysayers and everyone who has underestimated me. So he talks about this, and he actually said in this press conference, the reason why he made that cash withdrawal, or the reason why they found it in his jacket, $200,000 or $300,000, which again, is not illegal on its own. You can have money at your house, too. It's a lot of cash. But it's a lot of cash, he says, because he's still got family in Cuba and occasionally they're in situations where cash is their only way out. I don't even know if that's true.

I don't know, because his parents came to the US. I mean, it kind of sounds like a fairly reasonable... Sounds a lot more reasonable than, I mean, if it's true. If it's true, it's a good excuse. The obsession on Bob Menendez, I've always thought is because he takes some stances that don't fit with the Obama team, especially when it comes to Iran.

If your family comes out of Cuba, also likely that's probably going to be not currently where people stand. So let's go ahead and take a couple of these calls. Let's go to Bill who's calling in Wyoming, watching on ACLJ.org. Bill, you're on the air.

Hi, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I'm really concerned or confused. Let's put it confused. I keep hearing snippets about maybe Michelle Obama running even as a surprise insert on this. Can you guys give a take on that? I'm sure you'll have answers. I think that they are keeping their toes in the water for a just in case situation to make sure there's some credible names ready to go if something happens. Yes.

Because look, we've seen binary. I don't think there's any harm in saying this or anything mean about it. He is a not a young man. This man in his 80s. Look, anything can happen to any of us at any time, but it's more likely to happen to you when you're approaching your 80s and in your 80s.

It's just life. So whether that's a medical issue, whether that could be that they just convinced him that he can't win so they come up with a reason for him not to run. I think both Newsom and Obama, and I actually lean more towards Newsom. Michelle Obama, I feel like each time they say that she does something and then I think even she personally isn't sure if it's really where she wants to go. I think Michelle Obama would be a lot harder to beat than even a Gavin Newsom though.

Gavin Swaff. Yeah, I mean, I still think the later it gets, the more unlikely it is that it would be a non-emergency move. Yeah, we're less than a year, we're right at a year, since a year and a half. Yeah, I think it's more like you're going to have a very weekend at Bernie's kind of style of the Democrat primary. And Vice President Harris is in the middle of it too. I think you just can take her out.

You can't just take her out. Right. I think there's a lot of voters. It'd be pretty bad if you did. I think there's a lot of voters who would be pretty upset, say talking about black women.

It should be, yeah. If you just said, well, you know, she doesn't get it just because she hasn't been really a good speaker. I think part of the problem, she hasn't been a very good speaker, is she's had to defend this administration who keeps giving her the worst jobs. What's the newest job they gave her? Gunsar.

Gunsar. When she tried to explain, Biden tried to, I think Biden, he fought alongside, I think, that Ukrainian Nazi, right? He would have said, he would have tried to say something like that. Allegedly, yeah. I was there in that panel and I think he stormed Normandy.

He always makes a lot of claims, a lot of claims. He was at Normandy. He's old. He's not old enough to, well, no, not old enough to be at Normandy.

He'd be young. But, you know, he talks about guns the wrong way. Now they make her that head of guns, the head of the border. They're the head of things they literally don't know anything about. It's like, they're like, well, what do we want to give her?

Let's give her the worst topics possible. Guns, which we don't understand anything about, though, all of us are protected by them our whole lives, by many security guards and officials, both as a senator and vice President, and the border, which we're not funding. I mean, I think they had 10,000 people this weekend at the southern border. 10,000. Yeah.

It's like topped, the amount of, it's topped multiple states and the amount of, it's all that number going around, that post going around that the amount of people that have migrated is more than two or three states of population. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's wild. You just watch the videos when you have all these live shots. I got to give it up to obviously Fox and to CNN and a lot of these media organizations that are going down there now with their cameras and just watching. And I think that's honestly the best way for you to do it. Don't even watch it isolated when you're like, well, look at these people running through a neighborhood.

Just go watch when they go live. And it's just like happening. That's the wildest to me in plain sight. And again, there's a human side to this that people ask you with the guys getting kids or the adults were getting stuck in barbed wire and you had border patrol agents, obviously having to, or helping them out of the barbed wire. It's like, well, yeah, well, they're human beings. So at some point, human beings aren't going to let other human beings just die. So, so that's not how we do things here. However, there should be some kind of process. And unfortunately the process seems like, again, I'm the process. Am I right?

We'll talk to you in a few months. It's still a mess down there. And that I'd say is, is one of the more intriguing things to watch.

And really the most eye-opening is just to watch in plain sight, daylight, like 10 o'clock in the morning. Right. Like that's the thing in your head. It's like there's 30 migrants always like showing up. You think it's like late at night crossing the Rio Grande, like, you know, right.

Or like the thing about Cuba, Cuban immigrants that are on rafts trying to get there. You know, that's not what this is. Like you have to kind of reframe your mind onto what this actually crisis is and see what even we can do about it when there is a situation.

And when you have a Biden administration. I do love this from here. So I have to play it, which you made an announcement. Let's take a listen. Hey everybody.

So I have some big news to share. We are announcing the creation of the first ever White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention. And we are doing this work in large part because of the activism, the organizing, the marching, the voting of all of you leaders. Be it students, parents, teachers, community leaders who understand that living free from gun violence should be a right. So we're going to work on this together.

We're going to continue to fight for reasonable gun safety laws and for the ability of all people to live their best lives free from fear, free from violence. There's a tone. I think it's mainly tone because if you read that, if I'm just reading it, it's actually fine. Like there's nothing I find objectionable.

I'm going to try to take away your right tone. But no, the idea of we have a gun violence issue. Let's not pretend that that doesn't exist. I mean, we know this. We've felt it here locally. And she even said common sense legislation, those kind of things. It's not necessarily that bad of a statement. You're right.

It's the performative side of this always comes off like she doesn't know what the next word is going to be on the teleprompter. It's always a surprise. You go back to the Bob and Doug got into a spaceship. They went up 20 stories. They loaded in. The engine started going and they blasted off. They did it. Remember, there's always those things.

I love a school bus. You just don't know what's coming. But I think you're right in the fact that the fact that she isn't even being mentioned is alarming. It should be alarming to even the Democrats being like your VP. First African-American woman ever in one of these, you know, as a member of that high in American politics. A vice President is like being just forgotten about potentially for Gavin Newsom, the whitest dude ever. I mean, just like just a like straight out of like let's cast a guy who looks like a swarming President.

Who would it be? That guy. That guy. No offense to him. I mean, a little.

But it is like that's who you're going to go with. That's the Mr. Progress here. Yeah. Yeah.

He looks. Yeah. You know, I don't like making fun of people's looks.

No, I'm not. Look, he's very well crafted. Well quaffed. Yeah. You know, he's like a Mitt Romney. Yeah.

Like enough gray in the hair, but not too much. You know, it's just what it is. It's just the truth.

The fact that he's being the one floated out there instead of a top tier vice Presidential or vice President who is currently serving is is really showing a bit more of the truth of what's going on right now in the Democratic Party. We're going to take your calls coming up in the next segment that we do have a lot of you guys on hold, but we have a few open as well. So you can give us a call.

1-800-684-3110. That's how we'll wrap up the show. We also have a talk a little more about the Menendez situation. A little video from you. Yeah, that's right. Show that coming up.

It's kind of like American Psycho look to him. Gavin Newsom? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's Christian Bale.

Christian Bale was the American Psycho. Yeah. Yeah. He's got that look. He's got a Christian Bale early 2000s look.

Yeah. He looks like he could be one of the sharks on Shark Tank. You know, he's just sitting there going like, let's make a deal. You know, I'm going to take him and Robert Herjavec and just hang it out.

I mean, it's kind of similar. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Etch a Sec, you know, we are taking your call soon.

1-800-684-3110. You never know what's going to happen over the weekend, Logan. Yep. There was some LL Cool J talk. Yeah.

I was just reading that. LL Cool J. Yeah. He was at some sort of event with President Biden, LL Cool J, you know, rapper, been around forever, actor. I mean, he's in his mid fifties at this point. There was a quote, LL J Cool J, by the way, that boy's got, excuse me, that man's got bigger thighs or bigger biceps bigger than my thighs.

But you know he's got little thighs, Joe Biden. Yeah. One, that's not that impressive. And two, what a weird thing to say. Yeah. I know. He says weird things. He says weird. Yeah. That man, that boy's got bigger, got biceps bigger than my thighs. It's hard to even say because it doesn't make any sense.

No, I'm the one having problems not reading it. All right. Let's go ahead.

Let's take some phone calls. Can I play Bob Menendez? Oh, sorry. Sorry. Menendez.

I was even giving him too much credit. His new line, which I guess I get, we have older folks listen to this broadcast, maybe you do this, maybe we're just younger and you don't have that much cash around or would feel uncomfortable with that much cash around. It wasn't that Bob Menendez still has family in Cuba or that he feels like there's a crisis, but that because his family left Cuba, you take a listen by 22. Third, for 30 years, I have withdrawn thousands of dollars in cash from my personal savings account, which I have kept for emergencies and because of the history of my family facing confiscation in Cuba.

Now this may seem old fashioned, but these were monies drawn from my personal savings account based on the income that I have lawfully derived over those 30 years. That's going to be the key. You could make a big deal. Listen, they always try to make a big deal about, oh, they found cash. Lots of Americans have cash in safety deposit boxes and at their homes. I agree with him.

I mean, I look at it and go, yeah, if you come from Cuba, you've seen what's going on currently in America, if you have the ability to keep hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash on you, God bless you. I don't know if I really care if it's legal, if it's not like what we're, what they're concerned with, we're just bribing and whatever the gold bars are and all of those things that makes it a little bit, a little bit sketchier, but yeah, do we take calls? Sure. Let's do that. Let's go ahead. Let's go to Andrew's calling in Maryland.

Line one. You're on the air. Hi. Yes.

Thanks for taking my call. I just have a comment and earlier we were talking about, you know, what are people talking about locally? What are they talking about? So I just wanted to share a comment about in my area of the neighborhood out at the mailbox or barbecues or in things like that, just what regular folks are saying. And one, I think they're saying that they support Donald Trump and number two, they and myself, we're saying we do not believe the liberal media.

We just don't believe them. So that's my comment. Yeah. I think that, listen, the media itself has got a, it's got a time to crisis, Logan. They put out a poll. The poll doesn't fit their narrative, so they have to tell everybody don't trust our own polling.

Yeah. The polling said that 10%, it was a 10% swing that Donald Trump would beat Joe Biden. And then ABC had to say in their own statements, essentially that this could be an outlier. This probably isn't something to take seriously because they know the concern is there and they have to fit their own narrative. Even if it's their poll.

The White House saying, why are you putting out polls showed us two points down. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. A little bit of interference there. Let's go to Ray. He's calling in New York on line three. Listening on the radio.

Ray, welcome. Hi. I had a question about, um, the whole government shutdown. I wanted to say that literally we're $33 trillion in debt and our, our government's basically just spending funny money.

We if they, if they just keep spending, well, you know, there goes our future. So you know what? Just let them eat crow, shut down, shut down the government. And you know what? Hey, it is what it is.

I mean, you know, it depends on who you are though. I mean, I'm not against the idea of what the threat of the shutdown of the government, if you could do it quickly. But it hasn't usually worked for the party who has done it for the party who's responsible for the shut down. It does not usually help them politically. Now I'm not saying you should make all decisions based on politics.

Second thing about that is it may be okay for you, Ray. Maybe it doesn't affect me so much, but it can affect your, your, your parents. If they're relying on a social security check, it can affect veterans relying on the VA. So some of that is scare tactics because the money isn't gone immediately. Sometimes, most of the time, the shutdowns don't even last long enough to where any of that goes into place, but it's why you need to be prepared with a clear talking points that you can get out there and tell people why that, that the, those images that I'm talking about doesn't happen immediately. And the fact that they could exclude Ukraine from a shutdown, that to me is that's funny money too. That's a, that's not a real shutdown, Logan. Yeah.

A real shutdown means Ukraine wouldn't get any money either. Yeah, absolutely. I think I want to show a video real quick. We were running out of time to show up, but we're going to show a video Jordan put together, kind of give you a big summary of the Menendez situation and why you should be a little alarmed.

Let's take a listen. The left will always go after one of its own, especially if it helps the party win. Here's what I mean by that. Obama and Biden DOJs were and are weaponized against political opponents. And we know even against conservative Americans, the IRS targeting the tea party, the DOJ labeling concerned parents at school board meetings as domestic terrorists, the DOJ targeting traditional Catholics, something that the ACLJ is investigating right now, the list goes on, but their abuse of the justice system is not contained within partisan lines. The DOJ's legal arsenal is now being used to indict New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez and his wife on bribery charges. The couple is accused of pretty bad things, taking hundreds of thousands in cash and luxury vehicles and even gold bars in exchange for political influence with several New Jersey businessmen and the foreign government of Egypt. And yes, it's easy to draw comparisons between Menendez and the accusations about Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

We know the corruption runs deep and two separate standards are applied. With Menendez, the DOJ wasn't suddenly struck by an ethically driven lightning bolt, giving them all a sense of duty, honor and justice. So the question remains, why is the left looking to cannibalize one of its own?

And why now? One possible political motive stands out. If we look at Menendez's history with the DOJ, Jack Smith, yes, that Jack Smith was on the team that ended up indicting Menendez in 2017 on similar charges and went to trial. After the jury was deadlocked, the DOJ yanked this case in January of 2018 and Menendez went on to handily win reelection in New Jersey.

Let's go back even further to 2015. Remember Obama's infamous Iran nuclear deal? Menendez was one of four Democrat senators to vote against it. Now fast forward to today and we find a desperate Biden administration that just needs a win and a new deal with Iran expected to be coming down the pike soon, except the Democrats slim majority of the Senate cannot afford four detractors this time around. If following this DOJ has taught us anything, it's this. Whenever it appears to be doing its job, like prosecuting real possible corruption, it probably isn't actually doing its job. There's likely another politically slanted motivation behind their actions. Not defending Menendez, but I do question because they've gone after him before and lost.

It was Jack Smith. They lost. It does seem they're a little obsessed with him and they're back on the Iran issue.

They can't lose. So I mean, again, I don't know wrong or right, guilty or not guilty, but what we do know is he's beat them once before on the exact same kind of charges and he's getting a lot of pressure to resign from Democrats. He's so far, he's beat that before the past.

I don't know if he's gonna be able to beat that this time, survive that this time, but they do seem obsessed with him. Yeah, absolutely. And I want to tell everyone, I appreciate you guys for calling in, for commenting, watching on social media, listening on the radio. We really appreciate it because without you, we cannot fight for the issues that matter the most. And we are right now needing your help.

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