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August 30, 2023 1:13 pm

ISIS Slipping Past Homeland Security into US

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August 30, 2023 1:13 pm

The border crisis rages on with the shocking report of FBI and Homeland Security officials investigating Uzbek migrants crossing the U.S.-Mexico border with the aid of ISIS. A White House official claimed "the U.S. government immediately took steps to disrupt" the threat to national security. But can we trust the Biden Administration to bolster the border patrol and secure the border? If DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas would uphold the law and take illegal immigration seriously, we wouldn't have to worry about terrorism, drug smuggling, human trafficking, or other security concerns due to an open border. Today's Sekulow team discusses President Biden's lack of homeland defense, the latest news on Donald Trump's indictments, the scandals involving Joe and Hunter Biden, and much more.


Today on Sekulow, a shocking discovery that unfortunately the FBI is investigating. ISIS is slipping past the Department of Homeland Security and into the United States. Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Sekulow.

We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. Hey, welcome to Sekulow. We are taking your phone calls to 1-800-684-3110.

That's 1-800-684-3110. Just a couple days ago, we marked the two-year anniversary of the withdrawal from Afghanistan that led to the death of 13 servicemen and women who were killed by a group ISIS-K, a new ISIS affiliate in Afghanistan. But it also reminded us that, at that event, that for the most part, here at home, we have not had to deal with widespread Islamic terrorism since ISIS was destroyed, since the caliphate was taken down, since Osama bin Laden was killed.

There was major disruption in the world of Islamic terrorism. But a new report out about, again, what happens when you have a porous southern border. A new report out is chilling because we now have a group of undocumented migrants from Uzbekistan who were smuggled into the U.S. over a year ago. But earlier this year, they requested asylum. They were screened by DHS. They had no information in their database on them, and they were all released into the United States. So they went through that asylum process.

They got released. Technically, they have court dates they're supposed to show up at. Most of the time, these migrants don't show up at those court dates. But later on, the FBI learned about the existence of a human smuggling network helping foreign nationals travel to the U.S., and the head of that network is an ISIS-linked smuggler who has personal sympathies with the Islamic State. So we might have a terror cell smuggling operation, and who knows how many of these have occurred, but we know there's this group of Uzbeks who have been let into the United States through the asylum process, and now, a year later, they figure out, wait, the person who organized them has links to the Islamic State. Now, this is not the first time that DHS or our Customs and Border Patrol more particularly have apprehended individuals at the southern border that were affiliated with these kind of terror groups.

This has been an ongoing problem. In fact, the ACLJ was instrumental, instrumental in going to federal court to find out why the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI mandated that the Customs and Border Patrol take down an announcement where they had caught, they had apprehended, which was a great thing, to individuals that were terrorist affiliates. They were Yemeni terrorist affiliates, and they took it down because it did not fit the narrative. Well, the narrative now is becoming the reality, and the reality on the southern border, this is where, we're in a war on the southern border, and unfortunately, it affects every state. So I think the clip's too long to play now, right, Ali? Okay. So in the next segment, I'm going to play the clip.

We did a video montage of this particular story because they're related. This shows you the work of the ACLJ, again, protecting both here, life and liberty, because these terror cell groups want to destroy life. They bring in, they use human trafficking, and they're destroying life. And then they go to your community and they destroy life.

And this is everywhere in the United States. But as in so many of these issues, whether it's on Capitol Hill or in the federal courts, the American Center for Law and Justice is there fighting for you. We only have two days left of our matching challenge that we have with our life and liberty drive.

It's midnight tomorrow. It's been a great success, but we're still short of our goals. Without your donations, we cannot fight. As I told you, we're battling 16 lawsuits against the Biden administration. We're filing at the Supreme Court in a major abortion case we'll talk about later today. We've got a major announcement tomorrow on probably one of the biggest cases we've ever taken, but we can't do this without you. And this is where you come in, folks. These people really need our help. They need us and we need you. And together, we can make a huge difference.

So your chance to have your gift doubled ends at midnight tomorrow night. Jordan and I on Thursday will be hosting Hannity Radio in addition to our broadcast. And then that night, we'll be doing a live concert to celebrate this important event in our life and liberty drive. Defend life and liberty at Do it today. Back with more in a moment. Welcome back to Secular. We are taking your phone calls to 1-800-684-31.

Can I ask you this question, too? Because it goes up and down in the news media. You know, we talk about terrorism and then we talk about the border and then if there hasn't been a recent terrorist attack or there are other issues, we don't talk about the border as much. I mean, how much the border, the porous border is responsible for so many of the horrible things in our country, whether it's the drug epidemic of fentanyl. That's the border.

That's where the drugs come across so easily. They're manufactured in China, taken to cartels in Mexico, brought across to the border. So all those fentanyl deaths are related to the border. We know that the cartels, the cartel violence that has been seeping into the United States because of the porous southern border. And we know terrorists utilize times when it's wild at the southern border, when it's porous and when the CBP is overwhelmed, they also utilize the southern border to get human assets across the border. And so now we're learning that a year later, from the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI, that a human smuggler, a known human smuggler of individuals from places like Uzbekistan, which think about this, okay? You're at the southern border and a group of Uzbek men show up at the southern border.

Wouldn't you that raise a little bit of a concern? They're let in on an asylum claim and let into the United States, here's your court date. Then they find out later that the person that got them there is linked to the Islamic State. I mean, this to me just shows you it's the failure of these policies at the border are making America, they're killing Americans because of their border policies, whether it's the drug crisis, whether it's the human trafficking or whether it's terrorists, all of it leads to what? Americans being killed. And at the American Center for Law and Justice, we went to federal court and we went to federal court because of a situation where we wanted to know why the FBI and Department of Homeland Security mandated that the Customs and Border Patrol remove from its website a announcement where they had apprehended two Yemeni terrorists. And that was a good thing, but yet the FBI wanted it down and they wanted it down because they didn't fit its narrative. We've got a special video we put together on this.

I want to play it for you. This shows the ACLJ in action. We got this information, folks, for you to protect you, to protect your family, your kids and your grandkids, and to keep you informed and educated.

Take a look. In 2021, two Yemeni nationals on the FBI terror watch list were caught by U.S. Border Patrol agents. This was a heroic moment. Deep state officials silenced the heroism of our border agents who put their lives on the line to keep us safe.

The White House doesn't want you to know they've lost all control of the border. If it wasn't for the work of the ACLJ filing a Freedom of Information Act request, you would never have known how close terrorists came to disappearing into the shadows of our city streets. We were able to do this all thanks to you. Keep us in the fight. To learn more, go to slash cover up.

There you go. And that was our cover up campaign. We're now in our Life and Liberty drive to protect you and your family from this, and it's happening everywhere. Folks, I want to get your reaction to this. We're going to open our phone lines up early.

We'll open them up now. And here's the number, 1-800-684-3110. The Biden administration is letting this happen, and then they cover it up, and then we're uncovering it. But how does that make you feel about what your government's doing or, in this particular case, not doing? Now, they did apprehend the people, and I think that's good. But who knows how many are getting away? 1-800-684-3110.

If you're on a border state, which is basically every state now, but if you're on our border, we want to know what's happening to you down there, and we'll take your calls at 800-684-3110. I say this because we have done a comprehensive strategy in our Life and Liberty drive, and that was we reviewed the comments, and there are thousands of them we get from you. You know, yesterday, over 90,000 of you, actually over 105,000 of you, watched our broadcast.

That's just on rumble. That doesn't go to the tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands listening on radio, and the other 50 or 100,000 on YouTube and Twitter and Facebook. So we know the issues that matter most to you, and that's what we're focusing on. But here you have a situation where it literally puts at risk all of our communities across the board. So hearing from you on this is really important.

1-800-684-3110. Let me also say this. We did that undercover story and got that information out to you because we're able to have a production facility here in Nashville like you'd see in a major network. I mean, there are six or seven or eight cameras in here.

There's six people or eight people working behind the screen. We bring this broadcast to you every day. You'd see, you know, a half dozen video specials that we do every day to get information out to you. We're fighting a big way here. So when you look at the media component of the ACLJ, our government affairs component of the ACLJ, our litigation component of the ACLJ, and the new this year, Jordan, ACLJ action on top of that.

Yeah, that's right. Our C4, which is, again, is taking action and taking the work we do in Washington, D.C. and our government affairs work to the next level, working with members of Congress. It's been a very effective tool. We've opened up new tools for you to engage in grassroots activism through ACLJ action, directly being able to contact Congress, writing your own messages, working hand in hand closely with members of Congress on important pieces of legislation, but also the battles out in the states for life that we know have been so tough. They've been uphill battles, let's be honest, since the overturning of Roe vs. Wade. The abortion industry has been on fire across the country, probably in your state, trying to defeat pro-life legislation. So we've been active there at ACLJ action.

I think what the theme is, is it's continued to expand the work that we do to reach more people, to give you more options to be involved, to give you more of an ability to let your voice be heard, not just through being part of the ACLJ, but by creating a tool for you to contact members of Congress. On this issue involving these terrorists crossing the border, this is how intense it gets. The US has not yet located all those individuals. They're on an emergency attempt right now to locate these individuals. More than 15 of the migrants who came from this smuggling network, the head smuggler has been arrested in Turkey with the ISIS links. More than 15 migrants who have been tracked down are still under scrutiny by the FBI as possible criminal threats to the United States. So it is not just the dozen Uzbeks who were caught initially, that's just what raised the alarm bell. This smuggling network is a network, and we know that these terror cells don't just run across the border and carry out an attack the next week, Dad.

They take their time. So part of this is they get here and they figure out the system, figure out where they can be located without raising suspicion. And so what this story is alluding to, the government's alluding to, is that there's a lot more than 12 people out there who came from this smuggling network, from Central Asia and Central Europe. This is not, again, what they try to show us is migrants from South America and Latin America trying to come for a better life.

These are people who traveled all the way from Uzbekistan to take advantage of our poor southern border, being tracked and being gotten across the border by terrorists. The discovery was so alarming to the administration that an urgent classified intelligence report was sent out to Biden's top cabinet officials that deal with these issues. That would have also included in the President's morning briefing. So that would have been like our colleague Rick Rinnell, the DNI would have gotten it when he was the DNI.

It would have probably gone to certainly the Secretary of Homeland Security and probably the Department of Justice. That's how serious this is. Now, here's where you come in. We're breaking that information for you right here. We're getting the information through our litigation efforts. We are working with Congress through our offices in Washington, D.C. on Capitol Hill with both ACLJ and ACLJ action. All of this comes together.

You see it coalesce here on this broadcast. You're listening on radio, you're watching on our social media platforms, maybe on Sirius XM, maybe at, wherever you're viewing us. Let me encourage you to do something. It's really important.

First of all, share this feed with your friends no matter what platform you are. Make sure you subscribe and like what we're doing. But folks, we are in the last 48 hours of our Life and Liberty Drive. It's over at midnight tomorrow.

So this is the last two days, and these are the biggest two days. And this is the first time we've done a Life and Liberty Drive, and it's been a great success. But the truth is we're still short of our goals, and we do need your support. Because without your donations, here's the fact we cannot fight these issues that matter most to you. As I said yesterday, we are battling 16 lawsuits against the Biden administration covering everything from the border issues, as we just mentioned, to the targeting of Christians and radical Catholics.

Remember that? We're filing at the Supreme Court a second brief in a major case involving Planned Parenthood. That gets filed this Friday, the day after the Life and Liberty Drive. We've got a major announcement tomorrow on a very significant case. But none of this happens without you. We can't do it without you. It's that simple.

I keep saying it. These people really need our help. They need us, and we need you. So I want to encourage you to go to right now and sign on to our Life and Liberty Drive. If you did it earlier in the month, great. Thank you. If you can afford to do it again, we would appreciate it.

Any amount you give, the gift will be doubled. But this is the last chance is tomorrow at midnight. Now, tomorrow, we're going to have our broadcast, we're going to then go host Hannity's broadcast, radio broadcast, and then we're doing a Jay Sekulow Band concert live tomorrow night in celebration of these victories that we're having. To defend Life and Liberty, go to to participate in the Life and Liberty Drive.

Welcome back to Sekulow. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110, how the border is affecting really every aspect of America's life. And when I point to it, it's the endgame of so many of the bad activities is that Americans die. Whether it's these terrorist groups coming through, their goal, kill Americans. Whether it's the drugs coming through, like fentanyl, kills Americans. Whether it's the human trafficking, killing Americans. Whether it is and treating them as slaves. Whether, again, it's the cartel violence which is coming over the southern border. Kills Americans, endangers our towns and cities. So it has, it hits every aspect of our life wherever you live in the country.

I want to go to the phones on this too, because we asked people how it's affecting them. Now that we know again, terrorists are utilizing our poor southern border to get across. Don's calling from California on Line 3. Hey Don.

Hello. Yeah, I live in Potrero along the southern border as three miles as a crow flies from Tecate, Mexico, the port of entry. We have them coming through all the time.

From China, Syria, Iran, Iraq, you name it. I've had them in my backyard, I've had them steal my cars. You can't go outside at night without being armed because, you know, you never know if you're going to get jumped. We also, up here, we're terrified of the wildfires because they start them so that they can get through the immigration checkpoints that they have set up. Because as soon as a wildfire starts, they flood the borders, they flood the zones, they open up the checkpoints so everybody can get out. This is a law enforcement nightmare that has been created on the southern border. And when you've got a policy that's porous and you've got a policy that doesn't make a lot of sense, you create a scenario where the border is a nightmare scenario for people that live there.

And then as these people come in, it becomes more of a nightmare because it then just goes up I-65 and I-20 and I-85 and I-10 and goes to the rest of the country. And now we know that the people that are coming across the border actually are terrorists. And because of the work of the ACLJ, we're able to establish that. So the good news is we're on top of it, we're working with Capitol Hill, and we're going to get results. I need to switch gears for a moment here, Jordan, because we've got another brief.

Let me put it up on the screen. This is going to the Supreme Court of the United States on Friday. This is what we will be filing. It is called Troy Newman versus Planned Parenthood Federation of America. It is at the Supreme Court as we speak. It's a major, major case. It was involving the sale of fetal body parts.

Disgusting. And of course, as Cece's going to talk about, instead of going after the people that were selling the fetal body parts, they go after the investigative journalists. And our client happened to be a board member of that company. Yeah, and this case has been going on since 2016. We had a six-week trial in San Francisco, so as you can imagine, it has been a huge undertaking for the ACLJ to defend life and the people that defend life. And like you said, in this case, this was exposing Planned Parenthood's horrific procedures and process of selling baby parts, which is completely illegal. And what is crazy about this, they don't go after Planned Parenthood for selling baby parts and doing procedures completely illegal, doing procedures a certain way so that they could save an organ, and then laughing about it of how much it costs or how much money they're making when they sell it because they want Lamborghinis. And they don't go after Planned Parenthood again.

They go after the people that exposed this horrific procedure. So we, of course, was tried in California, as you can imagine. That was a disaster because it's a California jury. We are now at the Supreme Court of the United States. I am holding in my hand, I don't think we have it up on the screen yet, of the brief. This is the second brief we filed. It's on a petition for writ of certiorari from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. This is our reply brief to opposition, so let me tell you what has transpired in this.

And there's thousands and thousands of hours of legal work in this. We first filed a petition for certiorari, that is a request for the Supreme Court to review it. Then the other side responded.

And then we respond, let's put that back up on the screen, then we respond to what they did. This is our second brief in the case. So this is the second Supreme Court brief in this case requesting that they hear it.

And it's a very important case. And by the way, it involves RICO, a racketeering influence corrupt organization, which of course ties into what's going down in Georgia on the political front. But they'll use RICO against politicians they don't like. They'll use RICO against pro-life citizens they don't like. They don't care.

That's right. And that's what our petition lays out perfectly, that RICO is not applied here correctly by the Ninth Circuit. And it actually goes exactly against what the Supreme Court has ruled RICO does. And that's what our petition is asking, is that you can't let the Ninth Circuit use RICO to go after pro-life people.

I have been involved in three cases of RICO at the Supreme Court of the United States, all involving pro-lifers, and ultimately it took three cases to finally win. And we won, and they narrowed that statute. But that shows you, Jordan, the scope and nature of what kind of fight. This is another fight, folks, at the ACLJ that without you we can't do. And this is the Supreme Court of the United States.

Multi-year fights, multi-year battles. And what we're ultimately doing is trying to protect not just our client here, but future individuals, future Americans as well, from this abuse of utilizing U.S. law to go after Americans who are protesters, who are exposing the truth, and who are part of movements, political movements. Again, I mean, you look at what's happened in Georgia with this new use of state RICO, and we say, oh, it's novel, it's new.

It's a new way to try and use a law to, again, criminalize behavior that initially you would look at and say, where's the crime here? These groups just don't like that they're being exposed. They don't like that this information is coming out about them. So they have to turn everything into a conspiracy.

Now, think about this. If you're an organizer of a protest, are you committing a RICO crime because you organized something? I mean, that's what they're utilizing RICO now is that any time you decide with someone else, let's do something, and they will try to tie this to another charge. So whether the past might have just been, yeah, it's a trespassing charge, slap on the wrist, but we kind of allow protests in the United States of America to go, and we don't throw people in jail for decades over that or even years, not a felony. Now, if you talk to someone else about your protest or your civil disobedience, they want to charge you with RICO.

Yeah, and here it's particularly outrageous. They want to stop the civil rights movement. Well, of course they would have been able to. And the fact is what's egregious here is the conduct engaged in by Planned Parenthood was not lawful. No, that was the illegal conduct, not the investigation, not the undercovering of that. When they do the undercover investigation and then say, look what Planned Parenthood is doing, they're illegally selling baby parts. They don't go after Planned Parenthood. They go after the undercover investigators that exposed that.

And again, it's RICO, so you get triple damages. Like, it has some real teeth to it, and they're misusing it to go after pro-life people. So here's what we've got. We are filing our second brief at the Supreme Court on this, our reply brief to the brief in opposition. The case will then be conferenced in October.

We're already preparing. So I want to put this in the context of what the ACLJ is doing in our Life and Liberty campaign. The first part of the broadcast, we talked about liberty and life because you have porous borders that affects both life and liberty.

This particular case directly impacts life and also liberty because it involves free speech, the ability to get a message out. So this is what I want to encourage you to do, folks. The deadline for our Life and Liberty drive is midnight tomorrow.

So today and tomorrow are two biggest days. It's been a great success, but we're still short of our goal. We're trying to make up some lost territory. Without your donations, we cannot take on these fights. Supreme Court fights are very, very expensive, as you can imagine, and we don't charge a dollar to our clients, never. So without your donations, we cannot fight for these issues that matter most to you. We're battling Biden administration in 16 lawsuits, everything from the border issue to, as you know, targeting Christians, which seems to be the thing to do these days.

We're filing at the Supreme Court, as I said, against Planned Parenthood on Friday, and we are going to announce tomorrow one of the largest pieces of federal litigation the ACLJ has ever done. We can't do it without you. These folks need us. We need you.

Your chance to have your gift doubled ends tomorrow at midnight. Defend life and liberty. Go to right now while you're watching or listening to this broadcast.

Participate in our Life and Liberty drive. Keeping you informed and engaged. Now more than ever, this is Sekulow.

And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. Welcome to the new ACLJ case and a big client we're taking on. So do not miss tomorrow's broadcast, but we can't do any of this work without you. And we've been trying to highlight some of the work, remind you of some of the work, because sometimes we come out here, we talked about it for a day, we move on to other issues. You can almost kind of forget the amount of different cases we are working on at the American Center for Law and Justice. And we're doing that work because of your financial support. So make sure you take part in our Life and Liberty drive. We've been talking about the poor southern border.

We've been talking about the fight for life back at the U.S. Supreme Court. I want to take some phone calls as well at 1-800-684-3110. Tim calling from Colorado online too. Hey, Tim. Hey, Tim. Hi there. 30-year military vet. Great.

Thanks for your service. Overseas in various combat in Afghanistan and Iraq, all because 19 people decided they wanted to fly some planes into buildings, which resulted in the Patriot Act and the FISA court and all that mess. So I can't help but feel like just letting terrorists go unchecked over the border just undermines their entire justification for having that system in place. You know, Tim, it's interesting you said that because the Patriot Act, the design of the Patriot Act was to stop the siloing of information so that the agencies could share intelligence gathering information like a porous border and Yemeni nationals are coming over or ISIS-affiliated individuals are coming over to share that data. And then you're right, it blossoms into the FISA court, which is the star chamber, and there's no defense lawyers there.

And we've talked about that and the problems with that, and we've tried to get some self-correcting there, but I think that needs to go. But yes, you're exactly correct. This all-time – and these aspects of our work, Jordan, really ties into the fight for liberty because to fundamentally to have a strong liberty interest in the United States, you have to preserve the Constitution Republic.

Yeah, that's right. I mean, you've got to have laws. You have to have, again, a system that works, an immigration system that works. You've got to allow the people who are waiting in line legally, who have spent years doing that, you want to make sure they're able to come into the United States. And these porous borders, it's so many different issues.

Obviously, the bad actors that utilize it, so the drugs, the crime, the human trafficking, all of those issues that relate back to the border. If you don't have borders and you don't have laws that are clear, you don't have a nation. You don't have a country.

At that point, you don't have control over your own territory. And that's how terrorists get through. That's how Fentanyl kills so many Americans.

And you've got to throw your hands up in the air. Why do you think so many U.S. major cities right now are overrun by crime and drugs? It all goes back to what's happening at the border. And it's because this administration refuses to put the resources that are available to them to stop.

It doesn't mean everything will be perfect. It's a huge border. But you could do a lot more, but it goes against their political policies. So instead of talking about the fact that terrorists are utilizing the border, they want those stories taken down. They want to distract us from those issues. The world has reopened in this post-COVID world, and it's reopened in a very dangerous way. It sure has.

And our border is, I think, experiencing the most. But let's go right back to the phones. 1-800-684-3110. We're taking your calls as well. Let's go to Debra who's calling from New York. Hi, Debra.

Hi. I have a comment, and I need your input. I live in a northern city, and we are having buses come up from the south releasing people.

The words mean things, and definitions are changing. First, we have illegal immigrants. Then it's migrants.

Then they're called asylum seekers. It's like a shell game. And now for questioning it, we're being racist for even – can you give us what – Yeah. Let me tell you what we've got to do, and I'm going to address this right after the break. Let me tell you what we've got to do.

We need a comprehensive analysis. I want you to stay on the line, Debra. I'm going to come back to you after the break. Your question deserves a lot of response, so you stay with us here. We're going to come back to you. Folks, support the work of the ACLJ as we go into this break at

We're in our last two days of our Life and Liberty Drive. This is when it counts, folks. Wherever you're watching us right now or listening to us, go to Support our work. When you do that – and there's so many that are – it makes a huge difference. Debra, Celeste and Joanne and others, stay on the line. We'll be right back.

Welcome back. We're taking your calls, and Rick Rinnell is joining us now too, the senior advisor for foreign policy and national security. And I want to go back to Debra in New York.

I'd like Rick to be able to weigh in this too. So, Debra, just kind of reset your question for the audience and for Rick as well. I live in upstate New York, and we are having buses come from the border, and they're being released into the community. We don't know if they are asylum seekers, illegal immigrants or migrants. It seems like the definition is changing, and it's a shell game.

And if we question who they are, we are called racists. I'm in healthcare. I'll take care of anybody, but we need to know, even the healthcare, who are we treating and who are the people. What part of New York are you from? Western New York, New York Falls, Buffalo. Oh, sure, Buffalo. Okay, great. So, Rick, thanks for joining us. You're the former director of national intelligence. And, you know, this issue of the portion of the border, we had the report earlier today about ISIS-affiliated individuals coming through the border, but to her point, to Debra's point, she's in the healthcare profession. She wants to help people. She's not given care, but they can't even discuss the status of these people without being labeled. Yeah, it's really outrageous. Now, look, this all started when blue states decided to coin this phrase, sanctuary cities and sanctuary states.

And it all sounds like nice marketing, and certainly everybody wants to be generous in their humanitarian giving and helping people. But the reality is that a sanctuary state is a state that ignores federal law. We have laws.

If you don't like the law, you should lobby against the law. But to have places where you get to ignore federal immigration and state department rules and you're protected. Now, over years, this has built up, and now we're seeing the hypocrisy of states like New York, which have touted the fact that they're a sanctuary state for immigrants. But now that they're getting too many immigrants, illegal immigrants, they're getting very nervous. We have to do a better job of distinguishing between immigrants and illegal immigrants. And right now, Kathy Hochul is not doing that. She's allowing this radical idea that you get to break laws and go anywhere you want in America.

If you don't have border laws, if you don't have enforced laws, you don't have a country. We know, too, she works in the healthcare industry and how these hospitals have been overrun. Again, it's not that they want to deny anyone care. It's that it gets to a point where there's no more care to offer.

There's no more space. Because the staffs are taxed to the maximum, and they don't even know who they're helping or what they're helping for. And it's affecting hospitals from across the country.

I know that because we have family in the healthcare industry. It's very, very serious. Rick, I want to talk about the two-tier system of justice, too. Celeste is calling on Line 2. Celeste, go ahead. You're on the air with Jay Sekulow, Jordan Sekulow, and Rick Grenell.

Thank you for taking my call. I've got two questions. One is what can we average people that live here in America, what can we do? And a hypothetical one, what would be done if our country was taken over for real, if someone had just taken over the President's office and we didn't know it?

And what would we do? Do we just sit and watch? No, you don't sit because you live in a constitutional republic, so you don't sit and you don't sit.

And by the way, if you think that's happening, you don't sit either. I mean, that's not the way it works. We have elections. They're supposed to be fair. And that's how we turn government over in the United States peacefully. But you're asking the first part of your question, which is I think the one that is on the minds of a lot of people right now, Rick, and this is the two-tiered system of justice.

Go ahead, Jordan. Do you want to say something? Yeah, because I think, you know, we're learning about this new story of the York Post. So there was a FOIA made on behalf of an organization, and they've uncovered 5,400 emails from Vice President Biden where he uses fake names, and that's where he was providing information to Hunter. So those emails were the ones being used to forward information to Hunter while he was doing these business deals while Joe Biden was Vice President. I mean, people kind of—they scratch their heads because it's like, okay, how do you—there's all these special counsels out there.

They're all saying they got nothing to charge. Then all of a sudden, there's whistleblowers come out, and they change titles, and now we find out, Rick, secret email accounts. It's not so much that they had secret email accounts.

What were they using the accounts for to provide info to their son to do business deals while you're Vice President? Yeah, look, I think Celeste is really articulating this frustration that so many of us outside of Washington, D.C. have, which is we've woken up to the fact that the pot on the stove is completely boiling over, and this has been a very slow burn. We have watched, and many of us, I would say, even ignored the heat that's been coming from the stove to the pot. Our country has been on this simmer, and it's now boiling over. And many people are just waking up to say, wait a minute, what happened?

Why do we have a two-tier justice system? Why do we have a media that's totally in the tank for the ruling regime? Why do we have an attack on dissenting voices and a cancel culture and wokeism? What's happening? And I want to answer Celeste's question of what can we do, because there's a lot that we can do. One, I think, Jay, we should talk about our prayer initiative and strategy, because I think that is incredibly important. I think it's important to raise your voice, sign petitions, do everything you can to share on social media.

You're doing a good job by listening to this broadcast and getting some ammunition, but now you've got to use it to fire back. You also have to support organizations financially and with prayer to make sure that the organizations that you're supporting and that you're trying to help are actually doing the work to challenge government and to challenge the system. And I can just attest to me personally that ACLJ is one of those organizations that absolutely is playing this law fair game that the left is playing, and we're playing it just as strong. You're talking about this law fair, and that's what it is. And I look at the cases, and the big one we're going to announce, we've got a big case we're announcing tomorrow, which is on the censorship issue. That's going to be a giant case in U.S. District Court.

We just said we've got two cases, one now at the Supreme Court of the United States, the second brief on that case being filed Friday. Sixteen lawsuits against the Biden Administration. Folks, as Rick just said, Rick's part of our team here, former Director of National Intelligence, former Ambassador to Germany. We've got also Mike Pompeo, former Secretary of State, former Director of the CIA, Tulsi Gabbard, Democratic Congresswoman. You're saying Democratic Congresswoman?

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I believe we're also now on Twitter, broadcasting on Twitter, so we encourage you to do that. Jordan? Yep. And again, I want to go right to the phones at 1-800-684-3110, go back to Kate in Colorado, online one. Hey, Kate. Hi there.

Thank you so much for taking my call. I just find it hard to believe that this administration and everybody in it involved in opening up these borders in particular so wide that we don't have one, really believes that they are going to not suffer the backfire, I guess you would say, or the consequences of doing so. With their mental and legal iron walls and gates around their homes and their businesses, et cetera, they actually believe that they're not going to be targeted by these terrorists or this awful stuff that's going on. They think the rest of the country will... No one's safe.

The truth is nobody's safe from this stuff. I mean, Rick, when you look at it now, every state's a border state. Yeah, every state is a border state. And I think Kate's got a great point, which is, you know, we have to be able to articulate what the consequences of an open border are. There are so many stories we see just recently that terrorists have come over the border. People on the terrorist watch list have been allowed to come into this country through Mexico. And now we see pictures that the Biden administration has opened up the Trump gate.

They've welded the gate open. And so what we need to do is show these pictures, talk about these stories, show the consequences of a terrible border policy. And remember, always, we are the party that welcomes immigrants legally. Don't ever let anyone tell you that you are stingy or not helping your fellow man. We are the most generous country in the history of the world.

We give hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars to the U.N. through other entities. You are very generous and it is not too much to call for rules and regulations and making people follow rules and regulations. Thank you, Rick. As always, folks, our deadline for our Life of Liberty drive is midnight tomorrow. I want you to be part of that Life of Liberty drive.

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Welcome back to Secular. Take your calls to 1-800-684-3110. I do want to take a call. Charlene in Arizona on Line 5. Hey, Charlene. Hi, how are you? Great. Just real quick, I tried to call in yesterday, but you guys ran out of town. Ran out of time.

So what I want to say here is I have a statement and then two questions and I'll just read this, okay? Whether you call it lawfare or political communist attacks against certain American citizens and their attorneys in the judicial system right now, the country and the legal system is being subjected to errant legal attacks. And I think that the reason that a solution can't be found or understood on how to fight back against these communist attacks by the left is because the U.S. attorneys and courts in this country are not used to living under communist conditions.

So they don't know how to defend their clients under a communist attack by the left and are in alien territory. And our attorneys are finding it hard to find solutions. In other words, attorneys need to start thinking outside the box.

Here's the problem. These lawyers think outside the box. You know what this government does to them? Have them indicted for RICO.

So what you're saying is correct. We're not used to practicing law as if we're in Venezuela or in Russia during the Soviet era. But that's exactly what's happened here. When you criminalize the practice of law, you shut the lawyers up. And when you shut the lawyers up, there is no one to defend those that are in need of defense. And our director of policy just walked in, Harry Hutchison.

And Harry, she brings up a really good point here. Precisely. So the federal government has criminalized the practice of law. But the federal government has also criminalized the practice of our constitutionally protected rights. And so we can see this with respect to the fact that the FBI, for instance, has gone after traditional Christians, traditional Catholics, pro-life Christians, and we have uncovered evidence. For instance, 1200 documents prove that the FBI has systematically suggested that Christians are essentially terrorists. And instead of enforcing the law, instead of going after, for instance, ISIS terrorists who have been welcomed into this country by the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI is spending its time, money, and resources in Richmond, Virginia, in Los Angeles, California, and in Portland, Oregon, going after believers who are exercising both their free exercise rights and their free speech rights. But they don't want to talk about the fact that they're apprehending terrorist suspects, Jordan, at the southern border. But they want to advertise, they did until they got caught, hey, we're going to start going into Catholic churches and making sure they're not saying inappropriate things, which is exactly why you need the American Center for Law and Justice fully operational. Yeah, that's right. I mean, I think what you have to understand is that every time they try to play it down as, oh, it was just one incident, oh, it was just one place, then we find out, well, no, actually, the Richmond Field Office wasn't just doing this alone.

They did it along with Portland and Los Angeles. So you're talking about one of the largest FBI offices in the country, the Los Angeles FBI office, that they were part of the idea to put covert agents inside Catholic churches. Saying it sounds absurd that it's even real, that this is a reality.

It sounds like a script from a movie. And the idea that at this level of the government, there's this much dedication to going after whether it's people of faith or conservatives because you have a different political viewpoint, which most of us would find still pretty mainstream. I mean, think about this.

The major party candidate, I mean, Donald Trump, you think about all the people associated with him who have got all these different legal issues, right? This is not some fringe movement. This is half the country believes in these ideas.

It's not some bizarre fringe. And yet they are demonizing and criminalizing speech. They're demonizing and criminalizing the ability to associate together, to petition the government, and to question the government now, they would love to make it a crime. We can't allow that to happen. Harry, do you see that the trend line here with federal government is very bad?

I mean, let's just be honest. It's bad. It's dangerous the way it's going. And that's why the ACLJ has the unique role of being a bulwark against these kind of moves. It's aggressive, but you have to do it.

You have to. But generally speaking, when the ACLJ goes after the FBI or some other agency, we find that there is more and more evidence which supports our initial impetus to investigate. So keep in mind, in February of this year, we started a campaign, a petition campaign, to stop the weaponization of the FBI. And since we have commenced that program, we have now discovered over 1,200 documents proving that the FBI has systematically gone after Christians rather than criminals. And so I think what our listeners need to understand is that we need their continued support in order to continue these efforts because the FBI at the present moment is out of control.

The FBI and the Department of Justice, they have become threats to democracy. All right, let's take last call. Lou in California on Line 1. Lou, go ahead. You're on the air.

How are you doing? I understand that we are a party, a nation of laws, and I'm all for the party sticking to the laws and trying to remedy the situation. But I just can't help but think that at some point, I mean, what the left and the federal government, which is the same thing at this point, is doing is certainly qualifying as tyranny. Well, it certainly looks like tyrannical actions. I mean, I think the RICO claim is the most recent. I mean, I can't even believe in a free country some group thought that that was appropriate.

A group of lawyers thought you could go after the lawyers for challenging an election. Give me a break. I mean, give me a break. And this is raising serious constitutional issues. I mean, I think probably the most serious constitutional issues. Jordan and I were talking about the break.

We're trying to figure out exactly how to engage in this. It's early yet because we don't know if it's going to be in state court or federal court. But, you know, Jordan, in one sense, I think this one in Georgia may be the most dangerous of all of them because of the targeting of lawyers for doing their job as lawyers.

That's what concerns me. The fact that you can't have new ideas, that you can't have novel approaches, new arguments to make inside court, new opinions, and you can't analyze or have a different kind of analysis. Maybe one you agree with, maybe one you disagree with. I mean, the whole idea here, again, is that if you don't fall in line with Washington, D.C. and the deep state and the entrenched bureaucrats, you're an enemy of the state. Not an enemy of the state to defeat politically, but now to imprison. So, literally, to be deprived of all rights. All liberty. Right. All right, folks, we are in the last two days of our Life and Liberty drive.

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It's that straightforward and that simple. We're battling Biden in 16 lawsuits, including over the border issues and, as Harry mentioned, the targeting of Christians. We're filing our second brief at the Supreme Court on a Planned Parenthood case. We are announcing tomorrow on this broadcast a brand new, huge case involving censorship. We can't do it without you. Your chance to have your gift doubled ends tomorrow at midnight. Go to and participate in our Life and Liberty drive. To defend life and liberty, go to We'll talk to you tomorrow.
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