Unbelievable Discovery Made in Biden Documents Scandal

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We're taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. A lot to talk about today involving Joe Biden, another revelation about the documents that were held by his attorneys at the Penn Biden Center, how they got to Boston, how they got to the National Archives, and why the National Archives still hasn't opened nine of those boxes. So we'll talk about that. We'll also talk about the CDC. Former director of the CDC, you remember him during the COVID crisis, Robert Redfield, he had the beard bald. Again, someone pretty memorable to see testifying on Capitol Hill that Fauci basically squashed all of the discussion or research into whether or not the lab leak could have been possible. So he testified to that under oath that Fauci basically put the kibosh on anybody looking into whether or not a lab leak and not a transmission from the wet market could have been responsible for the release of COVID-19 and the pandemic across the world.

So that's very interesting because we're hearing that back and forth with Fauci of, oh, I just thought it was more likely it would come from that. I would stand in the way. And now people are starting to testify.

He said he was actually standing in the way. I mean, again, this is not about vaccines. This isn't about where you're on that. This is going back to the origins of COVID and who's responsible and why these top doctors and scientists like Fauci were protecting the Chinese Communist Party. Why were they so bit on protecting the Chinese Communist Party? I know we sent some money and we should never be sending money for gain-of-function research, but what else were these people getting in return? I mean, I think that's the bigger question. Was it the money that flows through the Gates Center?

Is it, again, this idea that we've got to protect the Chinese? So we'll talk about that as well. We've got Mike Pompeo. Rick Grenell is also joining us today.

Grenell first and Mike will be joining us as well. So a lot to talk about here. And I just want to remind you, this document scandal is still ongoing.

So we'll break it down for you when we come back for the break even more. But nine boxes of documents got shipped by Biden's attorney, Patrick Moore, to his law office in Boston before, okay, I want to make sure this is clear to everybody. That was before the 10 classified documents that were discovered at the Pinbine Center.

Remember, that was on November 2nd. But they shifted additional nine boxes over to the law office. And remember, there was some discussion about that Boston law office and having some of those materials there. Eventually, we now learned that on November 3rd, the National Archives picked those boxes up, okay? But they have not reviewed the contents.

It's just very bizarre to me when you look at this, again, that everything was supposed to be done. I thought everything has been searched. And I want you to understand that so far, for whatever reason, these boxes were taken away before the, quote, discovery of the other 10 classified documents, before the raids, or whatever you want to call them, before the FBI went into search. And then now that the National Archives has the boxes, since November, but they haven't looked to see what's inside.

So what game is going on? There's no explanation. Is it attorney-client privilege? But they gave the boxes over to the National Archives. I mean, they don't know if it's nothing if they haven't looked in. It's just, again, you see the dual treatment. The ridiculousness of having all these special counsels, like the Department of Justice can't do the job on their own. That's why that whole idea of special counsel is just absurd.

It's just taxpayers paying double what the DOJ should already be able to do if they really do believe a crime has been committed. We'll take your calls as well at 1-800-684-3110. The CDC director, former CDC director, saying, no, Fauci said, don't talk lab leak, don't look into lab leak, can't be lab leak. It's very early on in the origins of COVID when people are just trying to figure out how did this start? What are we dealing with?

Was it lab created, which is very different and even more dangerous than just an animal transition. We're taking your calls, 1-800-684-3110. We'll be right back on Secula. Welcome back to Secula. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110.

Two topics I want to focus on right off the bat. One is this idea that there are nine boxes of documents shipped by Joe Biden's attorney before the discovery of the 10 classified documents at the Penn Bines Center in Washington, DC. These were shipped to his office in Boston. Then after they were shipped there, eventually they get to National Archives in November.

I mean, so not like just like last week. But now that this has been uncovered, the question is for National Archives, okay, was there anything there? Oh, we haven't looked yet.

That was our official statement. NARA, which is the National Archives and Records Administration, has not reviewed the contents of the boxes found at Mr. Moore's Boston office. Has the special counsel? There's a special counsel?

I mean, who's even in possession? I guess it would be National Archives, but the special counsel would certainly have access to it if they wanted to. And so again, we are taking your calls at 1-800-684-3110.

That's 1-800-684-3110. The second topic as well, and we're going to talk about the Afghan withdrawal. That's also an issue we'll talk about later in the broadcast. We'll talk about it with Mike Pompeo as well. And this sniper involved who was testifying on Capitol Hill, they had already located the person who was really leading the efforts that led to the death of those 13 men and women who serve our country on that botched withdrawal from Afghanistan. So we'll be taking your calls on that. We'll be getting into all those topics, as well as the CDC, this testimony from the former director of the CDC, Robert Redfield, saying, you know what, in fact, it was Fauci.

It's interesting because I don't beat up on these guys all that often. But the fact is that we're learning more and more that internally, he's even telling the CDC director, cut it out, don't look there, when it came to the possibility of the death of Robert Redfield, the possibility of COVID being leaked from a lab, which is now the going top, I'd say that's where people believe is most likely. And it went from you'd be suppressed online, your messages were taken off social media.

If you happen to even bring up the idea of a lab leak and that there could have been intentional or unintentional action by the Chinese on that issue. 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. And we'll get to add to your phone calls as well. So we'll talk National Archives. We'll talk the CDC and the issue there with the former CDC director testifying as well. And we'll talk about those issues. And we want to hear from you on the broadcast too, 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110.

Let me play this sound. Remember this. This is January. It was supposed to all be done, remember? And then we found out after this statement, it really still wasn't done when it came to the classified documents and the dual standard, the difference in treatment between a Republican, or let's just be honest, Donald Trump and everyone else. Because even Pence hasn't gone through what Trump went through. And certainly Biden, they don't call it a raid, even though imagine the FBI going through all of your belongings for 12 hours throughout your homes and your offices.

So take a listen. This is Byte 2022. You said that the search has been completed, but is the President confident that there are no additional documents with classified markings that remain in any other additional locations? Look, I can just refer you to what his team said. The search is complete. He is confident in this process and I will leave it there. So there you go. It's complete. But we do know that that wasn't actually done either. This is not complete. This is not done because there were five more pages of classified documents discovered January 14th. That was just hours after the statement of January 12th saying, ah, there's nothing to see here. No issue here. This is totally complete.

I want to go to Rick Riddell. Rick, senior advisor for national security and foreign policy. Rick, this admission by the National Archives that there's nine more boxes that they got from Joe Biden's attorneys that were taken out of the Pied Biden Center before the FBI got to look there, before the classified documents were given over. And they haven't opened them. They haven't looked at the boxes. I mean, that was their official statement today to the press with this story started breaking. Well, what's really unbelievable is that remember these boxes are either coming from Senator Joe Biden or Vice President Joe Biden, not President Biden. That's a distinction because he does not have the ability to declassify information like Donald Trump does or like Donald Trump did. And so what is really important to note here is that they are not being transparent.

This is a drip, drip, drip of more boxes, more information. They did not have a strategy of going in to every possible location and seizing and searching everything, including closets of Joe Biden, which is exactly what they did with Donald Trump. So we go back to the same old thing, Jordan, where the weaponization of government by the left on conservatives continues. It's hypocritical and it's massively inappropriate because they do not have the same rules for themselves. And that's where the credibility of DOJ and FBI and all of these people investigating this subject, they have a huge credibility problem with the American people and they just don't get it.

Yeah. I mean, that's what I just don't understand. It doesn't make sense. There's special councils involved here. And it's weird that National Archives did just say, well, that's up to the special council. But they actually still are the guardians of these records.

If the special council that's investigating Biden wanted access to them, you would go to the National Archives. They didn't indicate that. They didn't say, well, this is being taken over by the special council, which leads you to believe too, again, Donald Trump gets treated differently.

And I pointed this out, it's not even Republicans. It's Donald Trump gets treated differently than everyone else in this situation. Well, it's the ends justify the means. They do not want the outsider coming in. Donald Trump has demonstrated that he is completely the outsider from Washington DC, doesn't play by their rules, doesn't care about the same things that they care about. And so therefore they are trying to destroy him because he is effectively implementing a reform package in Washington DC. Look, the place doesn't want to be reformed. It's like trying to go to Los Angeles and trying to reform Hollywood. They're going to try to kill you before they let the place be reformed. But Donald Trump has demonstrated that he's relentless, that he is taking every hit and turning it around and he continues to beat them at their game.

I believe that they are very nervous about Donald Trump coming back and knowing what he knows now, how quickly he could implement reforms. Yeah. I wanted to go to a second issue, Rick, which we have seen this testimony in the withdrawal from Afghanistan. It's pretty troubling when you look at it.

It's this report that a veteran, a Marine Sergeant who was a sniper team and was assisting the evacuation of the airport and testified that they had the ability to take out one of those terrorists and they could not get the authority to take the shot. I mean, so we're learning even more still. A lot of these issues that come up and people start, you know, it's after a couple months of it being a hot topic, but because of House Republicans, we're starting to get a lot more information here about why 13 Americans were killed.

Yeah. We really need to encourage these House Republicans to continue their work, to keep fighting because they're starting to overturn rocks that have a lot of information in it. So we all need to be encouraging our legislators to keep up the transparency. This testimony yesterday was heartbreaking, Jordan.

I found myself really emotionally invested in what America stands for and how many young men and women signed up to really be representatives of the United States in ways that is really humbling for the rest of us. But we owe it to them to have transparency. We owe it to them to have a government that has their back that is willing to be honest about the mistakes that were made. This is now all coming to light, seeing the parents have some sort of a release that this is beginning to happen. It's just the beginning. But I think that this is years late and it just demonstrates just how weak the Pentagon has been and was through this process. Rick, as always, I appreciate all of your insight into this.

And folks, we come back where you joined my Mike Pompeo. We get into that further on the Afghan withdrawal and that testimony was powerful. It was Marine Sergeant Tyler Vargas Andrews who lost multiple organs and two limbs in that blast.

So I mean, these are the sacrifice, the blast that killed 13. And we cannot forget that these moments are still being investigated. Joe Biden called it, quote, an extraordinary success. 13 dead Americans, Americans that were left behind, Afghan allies that we left behind who were on Taliban kill list. Again, folks, it's just unacceptable.

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All right, welcome back to Secular. We're joined by our Senior Counsel for Global Affairs, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Secretary Pompeo. A lot I want to talk to you about. First off, this really heartbreaking testimony from just a great American, Marine Sergeant Tyler Vargas Andrews, who testified yesterday on Capitol Hill about the Afghan withdrawal and specific in the situation. When he testified, he told lawmakers that his sniper team had detailed information about the bomber who killed 13 of our military and could have taken out the terrorist, but were told to stand down by a commander in charge. And yet, you know, Joe Biden calls this an extraordinary success. Not only do we have these 13 Americans who were killed and then those who were seriously injured like Sergeant Vargas, but also these opportunities that were obviously missed. Jordan, Sergeant Vargas story is heartbreaking.

He is an American hero, as were all the men and women who served in Afghanistan, in our intelligence agencies and in the military for two decades. To watch what happened there, and we've talked about this a bit before, to watch what happened there is not only heartbreaking in the personal level, to see what actually happened to our guys on the ground where we lost 13 Americans, but all the Americans that we left behind, all our allies who'd fought alongside of us who we left behind. And when President Biden says this was successful, or when he said we all withdraw responsibly, we know that's just gaslighting the American people.

We neither left responsibly, nor did we do so in a way that was decent. And the ramifications are deep and lasting. The whole world saw that debacle and America's place in the world was diminished in addition to the terrible tragedies that happened on the ground that day that Sergeant Vargas so heartbreakingly testified about yesterday. Let me just play it for people.

This is about 50 seconds. This is Sergeant Vargas Andrews testifying about this opportunity to kill the suicide bomber and how he did not get the authority to do so, and tried to go up the chain of command. I mean, he's brave to testify. He was brave in this situation. He would even bypass his commander saying, you know, I'm not sure why we're being told to stand down.

Take a listen by three. Over the communication network, we passed that there was a potential threat and an IED attack imminent. This was as serious as it could get. I requested engagement authority while my team leader was ready on the M110 semi-automatic sniper system. The response, leadership did not have the engagement authority for us.

Do not engage. I requested for the battalion commander, Lieutenant Colonel Brad Whited, to come to the tower to see what we did. While we waited for him, psychological operations individuals came to our tower immediately and confirmed the suspect met the suicide bomber description.

He eventually arrived and we showed him our evidence, the photos we had of the two men. We reassured him of the ease of fire on the suicide bomber. Pointedly, we asked him for engagement authority and permission. We asked him if we could shoot. Our battalion commander said, and I quote, I don't know, end quote.

Myself and my team leader asked very harshly, well, who does? Because this is your responsibility, sir. You know, I mean, it's just, it's just very, very powerful.

And Secretary Pompeo, you have military background, CIA background. Just the courage for him to get up there and testify this way. I mean, he lost two limbs, the organs, was injured as well to testify this way.

It is fairly remarkable. I always want to be a reminder to people that when we have those situations like the withdrawal in Afghanistan and how botched it was and the outrage that was built really across the all American people, it was not a partisan moment at all, but then we tend to kind of move on. And then you get a reminder that there's a lot of folks who can't, were never going to be totally be able to move on and in their minds think they could have done something more and they just didn't get the authority to do so.

No, Jordan, you have it exactly right. We can, we can never forget these things. Sometimes we raise them up to a level that's abstract, but the human reality as a young lieutenant, a long time ago now, but the human reality of what he experienced that day, that he so unbelievably, bravely testified about yesterday, always reminds us that when we talk about the military becoming woke or we talk about rules of engagement that don't want to hold you to protect themselves. These aren't abstract ideas. These aren't policies.

They aren't principles. They impact families and Americans and our security. We got to get them right. And that was a heartbreaking reminder of when there's confusion and failed leadership at the top, what that means for those folks who are actually on the ground tasked with executing the mission in the way that Sergeant Vargas was that day. You know, continuing on Afghanistan because we've heard more testimony as well. And that we've seen this latest report from the special inspector general for the Afghan reconstruction.

And this report just came out late last month as people are going through it. And now as people are coming through that report, Secretary Pompeo, we now know that the special inspector general believes that the Taliban is in possession of nearly $7.2 billion worth of U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons, ammunition, and aircraft, including 78 aircraft worth nearly a billion dollars. I mean, 9,500 air-to-ground munitions valued at $6.5 million, over 40,000 vehicles, 300,000 weapons, basically all the surveillance and communications and biometric equipment that we provided to the Afghan defense forces that were left behind.

This goes to that entire theory. If you're going to withdraw and you've got this kind of equipment on the ground, do something about that, whether it's secured, whether it's destroyed, before you leave it to the Taliban. Jordan, I lived this for four years. We were working our tails off to get out of there as quickly as we could. President Trump had made a campaign promise we were going to get our young men and women back. And we did. We brought a lot of equipment back.

We went from 15,000 uniformed folks on the ground to just over 2,500. But we were determined not just to get out, right? That's the easy part in some ways.

We were determined to keep Americans safe, to keep relative stability, and to get all of our stuff out of the hands of the Taliban before we depart, at least all the complex stuff. Look, some of this equipment will end up being broken. They won't be able to maintain it. But something bad could easily happen. And they could certainly sell it to others as well, even if the Taliban can't use it.

But they'll sell it to others who can. This is a real risk. And the mistake of picking a political date and saying, we're going to be out on this date, is a direct cause of what you're seeing today. And the Inspector General's report is a symptom of that terrible leadership decision President Biden made. When we look at that, and then we go to the new DNI report, there's a new 2023 report, the threat assessment they have to do. And the new DNI report, it says that when it comes to al-Qaeda, the intelligence community has assessed that the threat to the terrorist organization that whatever it poses will depend on the Taliban itself. And they're kind of like, are we asserting any kind of pressure on the Taliban? Just to say, well, it'd be up to the Taliban whether or not al-Qaeda continues on or is able to rebuild. The al-Qaeda problem is not just an Afghanistan problem. We should absolutely be applying pressure to the Taliban. We knew how to do it. We did it for four years. I mean, this is not theoretical.

We know how to do that. But this al-Qaeda problem is bigger than that. I didn't see that particular piece of the report. But make no mistake about al-Qaeda, while diminished in Afghanistan is still very capable in Africa, it's still very capable in other parts of the world. It's being run incidentally, we forget about this. The headquarters for al-Qaeda's operations today are in Iran, in Tehran, Iran, not in Afghanistan, not in the flat top, but in Iran. And this administration is playing footsie with the Iranian regime still, while they are hosting and harboring terrorists, the leaders, the operational leaders of al-Qaeda. This is all deeply connected, Jordan, we have to continue to put pressure.

This counter-terror campaign has to be maintained for American security and to honor the service of so many who fought and lost their lives in the counter-terrorism campaign over the last two decades. Secretary Pompeo, as always, I appreciate all of your insight and your service to us as the Senior Counsel for Global Affairs, which again, is really priceless for our audience as well. Because when these topics come right up, we don't have to wait a week here to bring you the experts. Think about what you just had in, what was it, 16 minutes of this broadcast. You had the former Director of National Intelligence, who's part of the ACLJ team weighing in on these issues. You had the former Secretary of State and CIA Director weighing in on these issues.

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Now I want to go to the CDC. Many times throughout COVID, and I think there were actors who were, again, you could tell were trying to do a good job. I think that Director Redfield was one of those folks and certainly was sidelined immediately by the Biden team.

I think he was immediately moved out. I don't know if that was timing, but he was the head of the CDC. And he testified yesterday, and I love Jim Jordan.

And it's not just because we share a name or that he's a Republican or a conservative from Ohio, but it's the fact that he's not letting up on these issues. And he's going to sources that the media can't discount. This isn't like a random staff person at the CDC or a random person within a department. This is the head of the CDC, the Center for Disease Control, a former head, again, Dr. Robert Redfield. And he testified yesterday under oath on the origins of COVID, why was the lab leak just thrown out the window immediately? Why was that disinformation or misinformation to even discuss it? Maybe this lab in Wuhan messed up.

So they're not even blaming them 100%. Of course, if you want to talk that way, you can also say, well, how do we rule out an intentional leak? But certainly it should be fair to at least discuss the possibility of an unintentional leak from a lab that just didn't meet the standards to be doing this kind of dangerous research.

I mean, playing with death, literally with the gain of function research. Take a listen to this exchange between Dr. Redfield, the former head of the CDC during COVID. He was on the COVID task force and Congressman Jim Jordan.

Dr. Redfield, you ran the CDC and you were on the Coronavirus task force. Is that right? Correct.

That was formed on January 29th, 2020. Is that right? Correct. Two days later, Dr. Fauci gets an email from Dr. Anderson, which says what?

Virus looks engineered, virus not consistent with evolutionary theory. Is that accurate? That's my understanding.

Next day, I know. Did he share that email with you, by the way, Dr. Redfield? No. As a member of the task force, as the head of CDC, did he share that email with you? No. Okay. Next day, February 1st, Dr. Gary sends Dr. Fauci another email.

That email says, I don't know how this happens in nature, but it would be easy to do in a lab. Did he share that email with you, Dr. Redfield? No. You didn't see either one of those emails, even though you're head of CDC, even though you're on the Coronavirus task force, that had been formed just two days, three days earlier.

No. Two and three days before Fauci's getting emails from his colleagues who are experts, not being 100%, which is again, no one is saying you had to be 100% there. It's just the idea that you couldn't even discuss the possibility that a lab in China that doesn't meet international standards was plagued with the dangerous, deadly virus and messed up. So you're not even blaming the Chinese there for intentional conduct.

But instead of, again, maybe negligence. And you couldn't even talk about it. But then you had, now we have these experts. I mean, these are not, these are not kooks testifying, let's be honest. This is the former head of the CDC, like him or not.

And the information is kept from them. Two days after the Coronavirus task force is formed, Fauci's not sharing with the team that his expert friends think this would be a lot easier to do in a lab. I mean, the direction quote from one of his doctors, Dr. Gary, was that, I don't know how this happens in nature.

So the idea that this would be in a wet market would be pretty tough to explain, but it would be easy to do in a lab. That was written to Dr. Fauci. Dr. Anderson wrote into Dr. Fauci, this virus looks engineered, not consistent with evolutionary theory.

We have more from that hearing we will play for you as well. We see some reason for some reason. And again, this wasn't about vaccines. This was about protecting the Chinese and protecting whatever illegal activity was going on at that Wuhan Institute of Virology. Because remember we're not supposed to be funding gain of function research. And yet somehow they were getting some funding. I think we don't even know the beginning of how much funding they got because that amount is still pretty low.

I think it was much more and it may have been going out to the people that we don't know who may have been on the payrolls. We'll be right back on Second. All right, welcome back to Second. We are taking your phone calls too at 1-800-684-3110.

That's 1-800-684-3110. I do again this exchange between the CDC director and these congressmen who were in the exchange under oath on the origins of COVID. So we're not, again, this is not to get into the vaccine. This is not about that. It's not about the business of that or whether or not right or wrong.

None of that. This is about how did it start? Where did it begin? And I think every American wants to know who is responsible. How do we prevent this from happening again? And why are we, if it is at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, can't the world do more to prevent this kind of gain-of-function research? What is, is there any, which I don't see any reason why, they never say why they need to do this research. Why do they need to take a virus and make it more deadly?

So they can figure out how to beat it even though it doesn't exist in nature. So again, yesterday, the former CDC director, Robert Redfield, was testifying to the, I guess it was the House Judiciary Committee. And he was asked by Congressman Jordan, we played that exchange about how Fauci kept all the information from other experts that were coming into his email saying this was the CDC, saying this was, this doesn't look like something that would be created in nature.

It'd be easy. That was one of the doctors said it'd be easy to create in a lab. Another said, just listen, it looks engineered. It's not consistent with the evolutionary theory of these viruses. But the questioning went on.

This is Congressman Brad Winthrop of Ohio. Take a listen. In one sentence, can you provide a definition of gain-of-function research? And I say that because there becomes a little semantics sometimes, I believe, within the scientific community. What is a chimera and what is gain-of-function? Yeah, I think it's to take a pathogen and try to increase one of two things or both, to increase its transmissibility or its pathogenicity. I disagree with some of my colleagues at NIH to say the definition is restricted to a pathogen that's already a pathogen. If I make a non-pathogen pathogenic, that's gain-of-function.

So in your expert opinion, was the Wuhan Institute conducting gain-of-function research on the coronaviruses? Absolutely. Thank you. So there you go.

Because there's even been debate about that, this discussion again. So I'm really glad that the former CDC director is speaking out, not afraid. I feel like because we've gotten outside of the virus being, and that was the real focus, is of course getting us through that, that they have this opportunity now as a former director to come and testify about what was going on. We know it was a hectic time.

We know it was a tough time. But the information, he was on the head of the coronavirus task force not getting complete information. Because for some reason Fauci didn't want people to even consider the idea that this could be leaked out from a lab. And I don't know why yet what financial interest, because it's different than the vaccine, what financial interest he would have in protecting the Chinese. Because it looked like he was just sending money over to the Chinese.

So what's the return there? Why the need to protect the Chinese Communist Party the Chinese Communist Party so aggressively when your colleagues are telling you directly, and these are people that had his email, go right to him and say, this looks like something we definitely would create in a lab, not something through evolution. It'd be easy to create in a lab as one of the doctors' emails to Fauci said. Doesn't share that with the rest of the coronavirus task force.

It's certainly not the head of the CDC at the time, Robert Redfield. I do want to go to the Afghanistan testimony as well. I want to play this for you.

It's a little bit longer and we haven't had a chance to play yet. This is the testimony from Sergeant Vargas Andrews who testified yesterday about the experience with the withdrawal, the attempt to take out the bomber, the sniper team not getting authority to do that. He goes into that more detail here by two. He was spotted somewhere from noon to 1 p.m. by myself, then Sergeant Charles Schilling, and another. The anomaly in the crowd who was clean-shaven and fit the description exactly traveling with an older gentleman. The individual is consistently and nervously looking up at our position through the crowd.

The older of the two wore a black silky hijab that was covering his face most of the time. They both had obvious mannerisms that go along with who we believed him to be. They handed out small cards to the crowd periodically and the older man sat calmly and seemingly coached the bomber. Over the communication network, we passed that there was a potential threat and an IED attack imminent. This was as serious as it could get. I requested engagement authority while my team leader was ready on the M110 semi-automatic sniper system. The response, leadership did not have the engagement authority for us.

Do not engage. I requested for the battalion commander Lieutenant Colonel Brad Whited to come to the tower to see what we did. While we waited for him, psychological operations individuals came to our tower immediately and confirmed the suspect met the suicide bomber description.

He eventually arrived and we showed him our evidence, the photos we had of the two men. We reassured him of the ease of fire on the suicide bomber. Pointedly, we asked him for engagement authority and permission. We asked him if we could shoot. Our battalion commander said, and I quote, I don't know, end quote.

Myself and my team leader asked very harshly, well who does because this is your responsibility, sir. He again replied, he did not know but would find out. We received no update and never got our answer. Eventually, the individual disappeared. To this day, we believe he was a suicide bomber. We made everyone on the ground aware.

Operations had briefly halted but then started again. Plain and simple, we were ignored. I want to go to Wes Smith who directs our military policy.

Wes, it was a powerful testimony. He sacrificed a lot as well and he had this opportunity that he believes to take out the the one of the leaders who was planning this bombing attack. So we now know that they were watching them do this days before the actual attack occurred that killed the 13 Americans. Right, our intel community had given these Marines a detailed description of the suicide bomber and their question, it was a good question. They ran it back up the chain of command.

If you know who he is and where he is and his assistant, why haven't you arrested and detained him? And the intel community said, well that would compromise the asset, the person who had identified the bomber and so nothing was done. But here's the thing, the whole issue is surrounded by this and that is this was a military evacuation run by the State Department and some civilian bureaucrats.

That is always a recipe for disaster. If the State Department wants to execute an evacuation and they assign the military to do that, you need to do let the military do what they do. But they were being micromanaged by the Department of State and that's what led to this. The other thing, rules of engagement in the military, at least in all of my deployments, have been very very clear. And soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, if they are under imminent threat, you always have the right to fire and self-defense. This was an imminent threat as we obviously know right now and yet the the bureaucracy was so mucked up they could not get permission to fire even from their own battalion commander. And of course the result of all of this is you had 13 U.S. military personnel killed, you had 45 military personnel catastrophically wounded and of course 170 Afghans also died in this.

It is not how it should be. I thought their testimony yesterday what was touching and as I listened to it I thought about my own time at Dover Air Force Base and how I sat down with over a thousand families who had lost loved ones in Afghanistan. And when they hear testimony like this and they hear what the backstory is and their loved ones died, for the Gold Star families it gives them more questions, it discourages them, but it also, Jordan, it compounds their sense of loss. Yeah and then we get further reports which is just really troubling because you're hearing how again from Sergeant Vargas Andrews who just said it was just a disaster and yet we were told by President Biden he called it an extraordinary success. Further report has come out from the Special Inspector General for the Afghan Reconstruction. 7.2 billion dollars in U.S. taxpayer-funded weapons, ammunition, and aircraft left behind by the Biden administration and our military along with the Afghan military at the time.

This is, we have no indication that any of these were basically made unusable. In fact, while Secretary Pompeo was on earlier said some of this obviously they won't be able to keep up necessarily, but ground reunitions they can utilize, vehicles they can utilize, they haven't been great at utilizing the aircraft necessarily, but more than 300,000 other kinds of more simple weapons, night vision, surveillance. We saw a glimpse, I don't know if we have the image we can pull up, but of what the Taliban security looked like when they took over Kabul and they weren't dressed in robes. The leaders were, but their security looked like they were wearing top of the line the newest latest military gear. Absolutely they were and this goes to further point out how how awfully you know messed up this evacuation was.

The President calls it an unqualified success. I've been on a number of combat deployments. When we redeployed, we took our time and we took our equipment with us. You don't leave it behind for the enemy to use and yet this was done in such a rush and with with poor planning that we left the equipment behind instead of redeploying with our equipment and and now we know that they knew the Taliban was eventually going to take over. So the end result is the Taliban a terrorist group is now the most well-armed terrorist group in the world. All right folks I want to ask you this final segment coming up.

I want to hear from you directly. You heard the testimony from the former CDC Director. What do you think should happen next? I mean obviously Fauci needs to testify under oath and subpoenas probably need to go.

Why we can't why were we suppressed by even discussing the idea there was a potential lab leak. So where do you want it to go next? Who else do you want to hear testimony from? 1-800-684-3110 to be part of the show. That's 1-800-684-3110.

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My brother Logan joins now. I want to play this for you again. This to me it was just it's just infuriating because you were told it was missed and disinformation. I believe actually the beginning of the divide in America over Covid which should never become a partisan issue right but they have to make everything political.

The beginning of it was how did this even start? Because they had to politicize even the ideas okay of experts and non-experts that okay it's came out of China then we were told a hundred percent this is from bats in Wuhan that people eat and it's from these wet markets. Don't look at that giant building that says coronavirus on the side of it. No don't look at that. Don't look at the fact that they've got a virology institute the Wuhan Institute of Virology which has problems meeting international standards we know is doing research they shouldn't and is where we send money to do research that's banned in the United States which is gain of function research which is banned because it is so dangerous to take an actual virus make it more dangerous in a lab so that you can try to create the cure but of course if you if it gets out before you have that guess what you have an international pandemic without a response to it so you have to actually just let it kind of fade out through over time and did the vaccine all those issues but the divide in America Logan began not over the vaccine but over where this started and they actually censored you online if you said that there was a chance that this happened out of the Wuhan lab because of all the places they created in China yeah it comes from the one city that has this institute that has the coronavirus institute every city has a wet market yeah exactly so when you look at it yeah if you want to look at the origins it's hard to kind of get yourself back into it no one wants to get yourself back into it but yeah the vaccines have came way later way later in that country the divide came when people started sharing information about the origin of it and then you were called racist and that kind of stuff started happening here's what I want you to do there are almost 5 000 of you just watching on rumble there are thousands watching everywhere and listening this I'm going to ask you to click that follow button real quick if you're on rumble we'd appreciate that if you're brand new to this broadcast also give us a call we got five minutes if you say you're from rumble we'll get you up sooner than anybody else 1-800-684-3110 I want to see if you'll actually give us a call and get your voice here we'll try to get as many as we can 1-800-684-3110 quick quick quick comments all right but yeah I think that's absolutely right is there are people who are now seeing this and saying that this corruption started very early I want you to know that for a lot of you and the who say why did you do this of course but you all these you are getting vindicated today yeah because the former cdc director I don't care if you don't miss it maybe I don't need vindication but sometimes you need these moments where you need the vindication because to wake up call to make sure we don't get censored like that again okay because I want to play it for you again that a member of the coronavirus task force who happened to be the cdc director at the time of covid which I would think outranked Fauci at the NIH but Fauci I guess became the lead of the task force gets asked by this yesterday under oath by congressman Jordan quick line of questions take and that's why it's back in the news take a listen dr reptile you were you're uh you you ran the cdc and you were on the coronavirus task force is that right correct that was formed on january 29th 2020 is that right correct two days later dr Fauci gets an email from dr Anderson which says what virus looks engineered virus not consistent with evolutionary theory is that accurate that's my understanding next day I know did he share that email with you by the way dr redfield no as a member of the task force as a head of cdc did he share that email with you no okay next day february 1st dr gary sends dr Fauci another email that email says I don't know how this happens in nature but it would be easy to do in a lab did he share that email with you dr redfield you don't see either one of those emails even though you're head of cdc even though you're on the coronavirus task force that had been formed just two days three days earlier no what I'm trying to figure out here is I get why Fauci the vaccine so he's making money he gets the gates foundation money okay we all know that don't even have to go that route why is he protecting the chinese because so far we haven't figured out we know that he tried to send some money over there so there's funding there wasn't a lot of money okay I mean it was like 30 and 40 000 maybe a few hundred thousand but it did like he was getting it now I want to know what companies he's on the getting back what was the paid from for the chinese yeah if you're hiding this stuff you know those medications made there well you're not hiding it for no reason right there's got to be and this was not about the vaccine there's some reason he didn't want the the world not just the american people but the world to think that it was potentially the chinese would maybe it is he doesn't want scientists he did allow the funding to go yeah and it even if it's a little bit at the backstage it might just be that it looked like he supported somebody which went towards this research that's the best you can think of right but none of it's acceptable because if you're that compromised and you're the head doctor at nih and you have to think like I'm glad I'm glad again I'm glad that we've come out of it but we all know now that if these are lab created and these chinese governments know what they could do to the world we but the idea that it could happen again is much more like I feel like they always say this is 100 years uh it's everything that's what happened in nature that's if it's yeah which we now know is is unlikely unlikely the case that that's 100 switch yeah and that's the truth and like you said that it's unlikely that it had anything to do with a natural biological moment that happened a plague if you will uh if it actually was just what sent which what we all believe in what it sounded like a uh experiment gone bad it took the normal or gone how they wanted it to go what do they call it the normal coven there was already coven yeah that's why it's 19 and all yeah and they made it more dangerous to try and figure out either it was because maybe because of animals maybe for it could be for nefarious reasons it could have been for non-nefarious reasons yeah we even got there I mean now I feel like if you do say lab leak you have to say it was unintentional why I don't think you have to say that I think you should have to say I don't know I feel like even saying that is very controversial now because that means that means they're creating bioweapons by the way it's not racist I think we've gotten over that I think it's society it's not Nancy Pelosi dancing in the streets anymore like I think we've moved on past that no no I again but I just think it's interesting that all this whether it's Afghanistan's back in the news because of the the we're starting to see testimony from former military about how bad the withdrawal was the sniper who wasn't able to take the shot out they knew the who the bomber was oh yeah so classic of Biden and I get it but they know who the snipe the bad guy is they're watching him days before which means they got intel on him and they weren't authorized to take a shot and maybe if that shot was taken those 13 Americans would be alive today yeah at least a very good chance I mean real consequences to this decision making and always have reminded about what they said about Joe Biden always wrong on foreign policy 7.2 billion dollars worth of military equipment is still is in the hands of the Taliban that was new inspector general report 7.2 billion yes they have some things like aircraft we were talking about Pompeo early they're probably not gonna be able to utilize that so well yeah you should go take a look do we have the image yeah this is what the Taliban looks like now now look you see the guys that's the that's the the the kind of old school do you have their no no I want the picture of their security that's the leaders their security is dressed in full-on fatigues yeah with flak jackets with night vision so when you zoom out from that picture so so when you zoom out from the picture you see who the Taliban is protected by that guy's in robes no guys in full-on command yeah actually it looks like the military it's our equipment yeah what I encourage you to do is also check out take a look at a documentary series we did last year called Revenge of the Taliban gives you a really deep dive into what it looked like over there last year and now you can see well that's at aclj.org Taliban that's one of the great you know projects we've been able to put out over the last year look there's people who are running for President now that are on that special you got Nikki Haley you got Tulsi Gabbard you got Mike Pompeo great obviously you and and Rick and everybody's on there so take a look at that those are some of the great projects we do here at the aclj we couldn't do it without your support as we wrap up here in our matching challenge that's right and double the impact your donation at aclj.org that's aclj.org I donate today you donate 25 dollars the most simple way I can explain it to you we've 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