Biden Labels Trump Supporters Semi-Fascists

Today on Sekulow, President Biden labeling Trump supporters as semi-fascist. We'll talk about it today and more on Sekulow. Now your host Jordan Sekulow. Hey welcome to Sekulow. We are taking your phone calls too.

I want to get your thoughts on this at 1-800-684-3110. So President Biden goes into a DNC fundraiser in Maryland on Friday. They think again in those fundraisers they'll start talking off the cuff and you can imagine in in his case he might get some interesting political statements and there are reporters present.

There's people present there of course the people that you know big donors that like talking to reporters. So whatever said is always ends up in the news if there was anything newsworthy and there was an item that you know outlets like NBC thought was pretty newsworthy because Joe Biden if it's hard to remember these days it certainly doesn't feel this way politically that he ran as this kind of idea of we can you know unite as a country and it's okay if you were you know MAGA if it's okay if you were this it's not like we're you know we're all Americans. But now he's gone back to this a very different divisive strategy that he thinks will help Democrats in the midterms.

I think it'd help him politically be more relevant. He said this about MAGA Americans quote it's not just Trump it's the entire philosophy that underpins the I'm going to say something it's like semi-fascism. Now 74 million people voted for Donald Trump in 2020. This idea that that we are semi-fascist and now he does acknowledge that statement too. He talks about MAGA that it's not just about if you're Trump support if you like you know Ron DeSantis or any of these 95% of the candidates who won that Trump backed in the primaries if you support any of those you are now supporting some form of fascism which in our our country is only seen as a basically a step before calling someone a Nazi. What is a semi-fascist? Is that like is that like Mussolini before Hitler rose to power and then Mussolini became a full fascist instead of a semi-fascist?

I mean here's the problem it's heavy-duty political rhetoric at a time when the divisiveness of government entities is at an all-time high and I want to use this as a pivot point to say you had a raid on the former President of the United States home in Florida for documents. We talked about that on Friday's broadcast. You have a judge then appoints a special master. Then you have the Department of Justice saying that's great that you're appointing a special master but we're done with our review. Review is complete.

It's over. We've looked at all the documents. Which does say this to when you're handling a case like this and I have handled this case as most of you know not this particular one but one similar that went on for a number of years. You have to the lawyers or and it may not just be the lawyers it may be dealing with their client the former President I don't know. They're not responding at the speed of relevant. They are responding at the speed of irrelevant and that's why I am not shocked today that a special master is appointed or at least the judge is leaning towards the appointment of a special master but at the same time the Department of Justice files a document says we're done with the review which means it's already been shared. Yeah so I mean you've got this news you've got the fascist news.

I want to play this too for President Biden. You just you might think okay I don't you're reading this report did he actually say it this way? He got asked after the fundraiser what were you talking about there? Take a listen. What do you mean by semi-fascism sir?

You know what I mean. So there you go I mean he's not backing away at all from the statement so this is not a time when the White House said oh that's not what he meant or go too far I was admitting more about this. It's about about half the country the political movement labeling it as and again I think you only use fascist in a sense of it's the word you say before nazi and that whether you know you get into the politics and the theories of what is the fascist what is it but that's how we we hear the term when you're using it derogatory political sense not in a historical context not putting it together it is you're nazi that's what you say simit nazi 1-800-684-3110 what does this do to the country what does this do to your community 1-800-684-3110 join us on the broadcast support the work of the ACLJ just a couple days left our matching challenge donate today at aclj.org and double your impact we'll be right back. All right welcome back to Sec Hill we are taking your phone calls to 1-800-684-3110 that's 1-800-684-3110 there was some I'd like to hear from our audience on this whole thing how do you how do you react to being as a conservative being labeled by the current President of the united states a quote semi-fascist I mean that's not just the donald trump line that he's going after the former President but they're labeling a whole body politic so I don't like using the word fascist I don't like using the word nazi okay we don't fascists and nazis in this country that are running government but I also want to say that the situation with what's going on with the pres the raid of the former President's house has taken a very dynamic turn I will say Jordan in that the judge indicated on late was a saturday I believe that she was inclined to put a special master in place to review these documents that is an independent third-party taint review not just the department of justice and as I predicted the department of justice has come back and said well that's interesting but we already finished our review which means they've already finished a review they've just if there is something that they think should be not included it's not included if not it's gone to the department of the FBI the investigators on this so I use that line which is actually in a book by general madison says you got to speed you know responding at the speed of irrelevant is not responding and unfortunate I'm not blaming the lawyers on this because I don't know what the dynamic is between the lawyers and the clients and but they're not speeding they're not responding at the speed of relevant here and and this is starting to have a dramatic effect on a political situation that is already dynamic to begin with and I say dynamic as because the current President of the united states department of justice is going after criminally it looks like the former President of the united states yeah I put all that in this mix yeah and I think that this is another this just broke this morning the idea that you know you've got the special mast I broke over the weekend and then immediately department justice says hey FBI's reviewed everything so what happens next to that statement I and I think again this ongoing these legal issues at what point and I think it's gonna it seems like it's going one way or the other which is that this just kind of becomes a document's paper game and but the threat of indictment still hangs over the President and certainly the left is pushing for an arrest I mean that that's what they want to see similar to the Hillary Clinton situation where the right was saying hey where are the laws here they're saying hey if you're if you're going to make those allegations you should stand up to your you know stand by your allegations there's obviously bigger things at play here they have to consider what that would mean and it's not just the threats but what it would mean to the country as a whole I think it's so damaging yeah I mean politically you're you're what are we in a in about a week we are going to be in the final eight weeks of the election for the midterms it's it's we can't say well a lot of things a lot of things can change of course in two months but Jordan we are you're at the threshold after the holiday everybody that's where they start paying attention yeah no I this is what I think and it's the level is inched way up yeah this is what I think we have to figure out is that we know that the rhetoric is going high we know that there's FBI raids on former Presidents homes we know that those that's not going to be over with and that the the rhetoric is not going to be over with the idea is I think it's easy for them to say these things about their fellow Americans when they say it's MAGA because they don't acknowledge that that's that's like half the country but that is about where half the country would vote it's not that half the country is all about politics all the time but this idea they're trying to scare people away because the the way that American hears the term fascist well it is not just a authoritarian leader that's you could say all those kind of terms I think the only way it's defined in the United States you know when you're talking just just in a regular way not not in a class not in a lecture you're calling someone a nazi it's just another way of calling someone a nazi that's the kind of the last we should not be throwing around not to throw around to a group that goes to elections votes has has political beliefs because you don't like the American first agenda or you don't like their position on drilling on oil and gas or taxes it's it's not like Donald Trump went around starting wars or or this kind of violence this idea that's somehow what was being exported which you kind of also associate with nazism is invading countries things like that but the idea if the rhetoric has gotten this far they think this is the kind of rhetoric that's working we we hit another new new wall where that's going to be the norm that you could just call someone a fascist yeah but you gotta put I'm putting in the context of the whole looking at both the statements coming out of the white house from the President calling conservatives the semi-racist semi-fascist and then at the same time that you know authorizing the department of justice authorizing which is under President fine authorizing a raid and a search warrant to be executed on the former President of the united states house which amped up again the the level of angst and at the same time then you have a judge that a magistrate that signed the order that should have never signed the order in the first place because he shouldn't have heard it in the first place he recused himself from a civil case he certainly should have from a criminal search warrant and then to complicate it even more you have finally the lawyers filed this motion to to get a special master only to find out which is again not shocking to me that the department of justice has already completed its review so you've got to put all that together and realize what's at stake here and this is amping up the political environment to a level that I don't think we've seen in U.S. history no I think that calling people fascist is different than just saying you know conservatives or liberals and out of line and socialist and because even socialism is not identified as the same as communist or it's it's different ideology it's we have actual communists in the world that we're dealing with like the Chinese communist party we do have socialist politics in our country just like we have liberal politics conservative politics and again the American first either you can call isolations you can call lots of terms but when you start using words like fascist I think it's just very dangerous I think a lot of people agree 1-800-684-3110 to join us on the broadcast let's go to the phones and start with bill in California online for hey bill thanks for taking my call and what the American people got to realize the democrats they're playing a game they're getting out in front they're accusing us of what they are if you look up the definition of fascism and I got it right here I'm going to read it it's a political philosophy movement or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for centralized autocratic government headed by dictatorial leader severe economic and social regimentation and forcible suppression of opposition that's the definition in Webster so a fascism so you've got Joe Biden calling conservatives semi-fascist while his department of justice is rating his political opponents home and got a judge that shouldn't have heard the case in the first place so that that's where none of this you know I know it's politics and it's politics now that's starting to count because we're getting near the end here before the midterms and everything is tightened up that's where all the reports are everything's tightened up but you have to ask yourself this question do we want our body politic to be in this kind of situation and I think the answer should be no that this is very corrosive to a constitutional republic yeah I think again that definition because fascism includes a lot of things that by the way conservatism America first back would would never be apart nationalizing companies it's you've got a lot more similarities to the government overtake you know the government the unified government the sense of it's not about states power to to act it's not about this independence to act it's about again nationalizing that's what the Nazis were nationalists a socialist taking over industries the opposite of of opening up your economy so I but I do think where the rhetoric goes is that you were labeling people as actual enemies then you're not just a political opponent at that point you're an enemy to the country right and when you're in it let's say when I argue a case of the supreme court I don't view my opponent as the enemy he's a lawyer for the other side I mean that's that's how we live in a constitutional republic we have the rule of law but this is where you've taken you you've amped it up when the President of the United States starts calling and of course the left side media is not going to call him out on this calls conservatives semi-fascist which is a very significant indictment so to speak at the same time his department of justice is gone in and conducted a a search of the former President of the United States house under circumstances that are questionable at best let's be honest and it's not defending the lawyers or the you know again it could be very complicated as to what the reason that they were late in filing all this but the late filing is it was answered by the department justice saying we're done so that little win for 36 hours ended up becoming meaningless because they're 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back to secular we are taking focus to 1-800-684-3110 that's 1-800-684-3110 so the media is talking about the fact that President Biden used the term fascist he called it semi-fascist which is coined this way you know you're halfway fascist to describe a significant amount of that where people are politically in America which is they want a strong country they do want their country's interests put first that doesn't mean they don't care about other countries and they don't care about allies that's not the case they they do want a free and open economic system which is kind of the opposite of fascism but we know what fascism is being used here it's because he wouldn't go so far as to call them Nazis call all of us Nazis so because of that he uses the term down and he tries to add a semi to it we're going to keep keep taking your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110 but the media said again the way this is being used we on NBC I think it will start with by date just right away that the White House didn't try to play this down or tamper down over talking about a small group of activists or this or this or that not most Americans take a listen what's interesting about this when he as you described used the word semi-fascism to describe the maga philosophy this week let's go back to March when he was in Poland he said of Vladimir Putin that he couldn't stay in power and that became controversial the White House you know backpedaled on that and walked that back there's no backpedaling on this it's clear that there's a more aggressive strategy we talked about the way that they were handling the debate over student loans so what I mean okay so they're not backing down their Department of Justice is executing search warrants on former President of the United States the President apparently has been thinking this semi-fascist thought for a while and now it's his aides are saying he's just articulating what he already believes so you ask yourself this question then well if this is what he really believes and they're now willing to say it and you're eight weeks from an election there's got to be a political reason that they're doing this I'll talk about our FOIA in a minute but what's the political reason they're doing this now Jordan I mean I think it's you want like you said it's popular with the liberal base but you don't always do it just what your base wants especially when you're getting into the general election so your past primary time so I think it's this continued message it's not about just Donald Trump I think that's important remember he said maga he didn't say Trump the acknowledgement that that movement which is a again a testament to the movement itself is bigger than just one person which is also not very fascist because again you don't buy his own statement it's not just about Donald Trump anymore it's about this idea of all these different candidates have been elected all these different people won primaries Ron DeSantis in Florida is prime example of someone embracing the ideology is he calling Ron DeSantis a semi-fascist I think so I would imagine yes and that is actually in line with a lot of if you see the kind of chatter on the left of how they describe DeSantis you saw that these ads they put up in California just really uh horrendous about moving to Texas yeah uh and they use the school shooting don't move to Texas uh this idea of a Texas dream is over and they're putting that up to try and keep people from leaving California because of how bad it is there it's saying seeing these crazy red states everybody's got guns it's unsafe to go to school so you'll like our heavy government policies which is again more like again if you really look at the idea of breaking all these philosophies down and we can do that you could do it as an exercise as an educational exercise but that's not what Joe Biden is doing here he's just calling you a nazi it's just a nicer way of saying it yeah and not quite as extreme and obviously that's playing up to not just like his base at a rally this was the top level fundraisers well these are the intentional messaging that they're doing here which is corrosive to like I said to a constitutional republic let's go ahead and take a phone call yeah and I think about all those people in that room that are giving twenty five thousand dollars in those kind of numbers who are employing lots of people is that how they looked out of their employees who might have different politics than they they're they're fascist not that they even strongly disagree but they're literally an enemy of the United States of America uh back to the phones uh we go Tim in California online three hey Tim thank you for taking my call for starters I resent being called a semi-fascist I'm not a semi-fascist number two I think the Biden administration should go back to school and study what nazism has done so if I was advising Biden I would advise and go and study people that were killed in concentration camps the horrors of fascism when they say fascist this is semi-fascist I mean I'm trying to figure out what exactly is a semi-fascist it's you know and I'm using this not to be pejorative but I mean Mussolini was a fascist but when Hitler rose to power his fascism became even more pronounced it was horrible before it was worse when when Hitler comes on the scene so was it Mussolini before Hitler I mean that's semi-fascist I mean this is where the language makes a difference folks and could you imagine if a conservative political leader said this I believe the Democrats are fascists that's not saying I believe they're socialists that's not even saying I believe they're communists it's a whole it's it rises to a whole different level that's what we're saying here and and language matters and words matter and the body politics matters but these are calculated moves I think the the search warrant executed on Trump's Mar-a-Lago property is calculated you know it's calculated you know they thought about what are the consequences if we do this and then everybody over the weekend that's a conservative got all excited because the judge said I'm inclined to grant a a special master to review this material and that the justice department takes the wind out of that balloon or the air out of that balloon this morning by saying by the way we're done reviewing it we've completed the review that's why responding at the speed of irrelevant doesn't really work yeah and I think also the the legal process through this is again the ups and downs of the legal process versus the bigger picture like like the special master is going to stop anything you still have an affidavit heavily you know everybody's gone through that we've gone through all these steps remember the affidavit we said sure based on that affidavit and we didn't see all of it Jordan but because it's redacted but they amped up the political heat in this country over a document dispute what is what it looks like yeah I mean that's the thing what we told you is we're gonna learn a lot there's gonna be heavily redactions then on the special master issue I think that's net news breaks and it's just confuses people because it sounds like a big deal like it's a special unique person and except for the fact now that maybe it goes another run through them but we know that they they weren't dealing with 20 million documents here so it didn't take them more than a couple weeks and they they work as they go so I and you were talking about that too this idea is that they don't like see it all and say okay now we're done now you can invest it's one at a time and once it's clear they yeah they're as they're clearing documents they're sending it over to the way to restart this process with any effect yeah no they still should be filing motions to quash motions to suppress I guess those will come I don't know yeah it's getting really late all right maybe the President former President decided he didn't want that done so I don't want to be too hard on the lawyers here maybe maybe the President decided he didn't want that done that could be the approach to taking I have no idea yep 1-800-684-3110 that's 1-800-684-3110 we come back we'll take more of your phone calls a lot of phones coming in a lot of questions on this I think again too the idea everybody it doesn't really matter where you are in the country now you're starting to feel the politics so I think that now that we're through not every primary but many primaries you start feeling the messaging of the general election and it doesn't matter where you are and it doesn't matter if you're in a blue state because the the house seats are up too so all of this again you're going to see what is the rhetoric that they're going to decide to go with and it seems like it's going to be very extreme so we I think we just have to be ready to fight back strong in our beliefs stand with us at ACLJ through the end of this month we've got our matching challenge 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is calculated and we've seen joe biden scripted non-scripted doesn't say he's unscripted much these days uh giving a full-fledged speech but he's giving these remarks and he says and here's the direct quote now that's because there's so many people at that fundraiser that are talking to the media uh so they're they're recording it they're videos of it uh and they sent it to the media but we don't have the audio yet but we do know the full statement white house not backing down from it is not saying that this was wrong or taken out of context at all in fact they doubled down uh but he says quote it's joe biden it's not just trump it's the entire philosophy that underpins the i'm going to say something it's like semi-fascism so he goes on to say that then when he's asked uh we'll play this sound what did you mean about that when you call people semi-fascist take a listen what do you mean by semi-fascism you know what i mean so no backing down nope doubling down i think it's also you know what i mean is it leaves it up to a force where most people go if they know the term and i'm not trying to be mean that obviously if there's a political term they're familiar with their way of government is to right away to hitler right away to nazis i mean that's just that is just where you go because that's really the last semblance of of fascism that we've seen at a major scale even put in these other ideas they use different terms autocrat or authoritarian they go through but fascism is specific kind of political system and in the united states that's calling everybody an enemy i mean this entire block of of voters going into an election where people are unhappy but it's like well if you're unhappy the other option is so bad you can't vote that way but this is a President that prided himself on being he was going to be the great uniter right and then he makes that statement listen to what major garrett from cbs news did when he spoke to the chair of the dnc you heard the President's inaugural address the same way i did in that inaugural address President biden said we should not view each other as adversaries in this country but as neighbors and we should treat each other with dignity and respect how does semi-fascism as a label for the republican party fit with that inaugural address well the one thing that President joe biden has been has always been consistent and he has always been somebody who does what my grandfather used to do which is speak it plain well speak it plain but speak it dangerous i mean speak it plain hey man that was plain i believe that you know republicans are semi-fascist but my goodness you've just labeled half the country as as autocrats dangerous to the republic so you know the dnc's response though is very interesting speak it plain they're not backing down from this so i wonder this is what i'm wondering as we go into this break we'll be joined by mike bumpay i want to ask him this is this a politically calculated did they politically calculate this move jordan to say we are going to ride on this this is something we're going to ride the tails of this kind of review all these conservatives as semi-fascist i'm not calling fascist just semi-fascist i think that there's definitely a calculation that and again this is this is just from the other side because it's clear what they're doing is resurrecting trump as much as possible they wanted to all be about him without him being on the ballot without him giving a chance to to run he's not running a full-fledged campaign he's not out there uh it may be endorsing candidates but that's who's really on the ballot i don't think they want you to focus in on the federal of the world they want you to just think don't vote for the trump candidate and so that this this idea that that will work in enough states and they're getting the media to write their stories today but they have a chance of keeping back the house of representatives yeah so that that is now the narrative that helps a lot when you're trying to get people on the left to give you money because you're going to have tightened up yeah you got the racism right now but they have to have a reason to give also so i think the tougher rhetoric the raid on marla all this ties it together and it is seems to be like the white house is taking their strategy from new people we've been talking about that a lot that they killed the disinformation you know they've just started doing things to distance themselves and kind of restart six eight four thirty one ten right to the phones uh we go that's one eight hundred six eight four three one one zero let's go to justin north carolina online too hey justin hey thanks for taking my call sure um one is kind of a general general statement but you know why should i vote and when i say that is a lot of the rhetoric that i hear and you know i know how it goes it's ratings and whatnot but on your show and other conservative shows we it's very reactionary i'm only hearing about what the democrats are doing i never hear about what the republicans what are conservatives doing well i think you'd have to look at the state at the federal level they're fighting back so it is reactionary i mean there there's only so much you could i think you got maybe got used to four years three supreme court nominees lots of legislation moving credit that to President trump and his congrats the congressional leaders but but conservatives have been in the minority and so what do you what do you expect them to be doing that they put out policy proposals but they don't get a lot of attention and there's not a ton of reason now now they start getting more because you start getting to a lecture where you gotta say why to vote for me so i think you're right to a certain extent but you also have to just grow up with our politics and the politics are if the house is run by dancy pelosi and the senate is run by chuck schumer and the white house is run by joe biden guess what you're not going to be doing a lot of as a conservative legislating policy proposals are not going anywhere so what you have to do is start planning on what you would do just to push back on their proposals so we talked to senator graham we talked about how we've they have legislated the funding of 87 billion but they haven't appropriated yet the irs so that even if the house comes back they could they could put some wrenches in these programs but that is what it is i mean you i think that we don't if you came to politics under trump a lot of people did yes and you got used to saying we're going to do this and we do it we're going to recognize drupal is the capital of israel we do we do that and we're going to we're going to do support this ally we're going to put america first we build a wall they say no we can't they start building a wall and then you go back into reality of a democrat political system when they run every every part right now they have the white house the house and the senate yeah yeah so i think you just you have to take your steps back to to incrementally get there and it shouldn't feel like oh don't vote but also know why you're voting and what you're voting for the constitutional republic these things do happen i mean you do have seasons in politics yeah there's a pendulum swing the pendulum swung very hard left and that was not working for President biden so what does he do he brings it a little bit more center left still left but center left but then he doubles down and decides to label conservatives as semi-fascist but there's a political motivation for all of these actions we're taking your calls at 800 684 31 10 who's next yeah and i think that part of that too to the republicans is this divide and conquer idea which is he didn't say republicans so he's still trying to say see you don't i'm not saying just the opposition is all bad to my views it's it's this group of opposition but what we know is that that is the single largest group within the republican party now and and the political movement we saw in the primaries clear who people are choosing to represent them in the general election back to the phones we go 1-800-684-3110 rodney in arizona online one hey roddick thank you for taking my call my my question is if trump had said something that uh the same thing that biden has said and called the democratic part of that or the leftist part that it would have been the biggest uproar it would have been on every news station it would have been in three bold blood printed letters in the newspaper it would have been uh the biggest news story in decades well it would have been you know he's demonizing he's calling it but cbs did cover this nbc has covered it it's that big of a statement i think that that's the interesting part is if nbc's covering it right off the top and and all the different networks are covering there's a reason why it's because labeling that many of your fellow americans with a term that's associated mostly with nazis these days okay that's and these days being since the 1940s that that's that that's going a different step it's taking a different set it is basket deplorable similar to that but even deplorable not associated with the pacific uh uh totalitarian movement no okay so we played nbc we played cbs so this is making news people are were shocked even in the left-wing media uh liberal media pam brown on cnn number 25 what do you think about the President calling millions of americans semi-fascist listen he's got to express and be honest about what he feels in his heart and his soul and i think that's probably exactly what he did so in his heart and soul he thinks millions of americans are semi-fascist this is the guy by the way that's running for governor of uh florida got the democrats nomination in his heart and soul charlie chris who used to be republican by the way believes now that republicans are semi-fascist i mean let that sink in for a minute but i will say the media is is addressing this yeah i think because it's such an extreme use of language at a time when they're constantly pointed to write a name calling on the right and this and that and again politics is rough it's getting rougher and rougher in our country i think it's just being put on display we see but this kind of rhetoric again we've been told you shy away from talk about the issues don't don't make it so personal to people obviously as we're getting close to the general election this is about dividing neighbors you know it's about saying well if this i mean think about it this way if the neighbor next door to you is a fascist that's like saying your neighbor next door is a nazi because they have different politics than you that's never been really where we were as a country in the modern modern age at least and you know to me though there's obviously somewhere this is resonating yeah where and i think it's again they go back to the moms they go back to suburbs and yes the economy of course these pocketbook issues are always number one but if you look at number two and number three they are issues like this how you feel about your country the so to me none of this is unscripted that's the part i don't believe i don't think anything is unscripted i think it's all happening for the same purpose which is to divide and conquer and and exactly like we saw that color says maybe i shouldn't show up to vote that sentiment seeping in already this early that oh that's exactly that's why i think this was well orchestrated let's go ahead and take some more calls yeah let's go to nick in dc on line three hey nick hey nick hi there thank you gentlemen for everything that you guys do um it's pretty obvious to me what the democrats and the fbi have been trying to do to donald trump for the last six years is basically get rid of him and if they're successful in indicting him is donald trump is it game over for donald trump well induct if you're indicted it doesn't an indictment doesn't disqualify because you're presumed innocent uh if you're convicted that's a whole different story but that would it would wreck havoc in the political system if the republican nominee was under indictment yes i mean i i don't you can't imagine that you're legal burden hurdles one thing but then there's just the realities the politics of all of that and what that would do to the country i i tell you this administration it feels like they're not going there right now but you didn't think that they were going to raid either no you didn't so i mean i wouldn't put anything by them yet i mean the the headline and drudge which i think you know he's pretty anti-trump is showing it every single day but is is a superimposed head of donald trump in an orange jumpsuit oh yeah so that is there is a push and i i will tell all of you right now and i think you're you've if you listen to this broadcast long enough you know there's plenty of republicans they may not love the idea but it moves him out of the way if any especially if there's more legal actions they're just so distracting even if they're not disqualifying but so distracting that how could you possibly run this idea so that's when you get into some next level political stuff which again i hope the country's not put there but when you start calling people fascist you're kind of laying the groundwork to take that step if you feel like it's going to be politically helpful to you which is that is how the white house is making decisions right now they were not a white house that was being well run on that but we everybody has had to notice that in the last couple weeks things have significantly changed the country politically where people are even since the raid yeah because it's the raid they took a new turn yeah and much more aggressive let's try to quickly get john out of california john go ahead all right thank you much for taking my call you know be trying to confuse people it's fascism is is all left it's not all right it's not all right that's it's more government control not less you know and the same things it's autocratic government control too i mean you're talking about fascists mussolini was a fascist hitler was a nazi that was a form of fascism i mean so this was this a very dangerous move uh john of what they're trying to do here and uh yeah it doesn't politically make sense that they said it but they said it for a political reason yeah no it doesn't the politics don't add up like i said you can't the historical lesson here is not what they're doing here they're just trying to say well how do i call someone a nazi without saying nazi because that may be too off-putting so too many people but semi-fascist maybe people who pay attention will get that and they understand the the week and the nod there and and what will be interesting to see is if this was tried out to the group of you know donors which is a lot of times what you're doing is you're trying out messages seeing how people react they're your friends they're your number one scores they're not going anywhere if it works you get a lot of attention do you start taking that to a campaign trail do we start hearing other surrogates we're starting to hear other surrogates already repeat that this is totally fine to say that this makes sense and this is how we should even be questioned by the nbc's and cbs's and cnn in the world that it may have been a little over the top they're still doubling down on all right joining us next is um mike pompeo former secretary of state our senior counsel for global affairs support the work of the aclj at aclj.org that's aclj.org we'll be back with more in just a moment we're in that matching challenge campaign folks so any amount you donate we get a matching gift for again aclj.org back with more in a moment all right we're joined now by our senior counsel for global affairs former secretary of state mike pompeo and this is interesting secretary pompeo because you wrote at aclj.org about the marlotta lago raid saying this isn't about donald trump it's about you it's happening everywhere you look and then we saw late last week President biden at this dnc event saying it's not just about trump it's the entire philosophy so it's not just about him anymore it's not about a few people and he's going to say something it's like semi-fascism it seems like secretary pompeo the President confirmed what you wrote oh goodness that was not my intention to agree with President biden that may be a first but his point and the point that i made in my piece was that that's right what we have are bureaucracies institutions that have been captured by the left by the political leadership in those institutions and they are now coming after all of us who have a conservative mindset it's not just about chasing down President trump it is about chasing down 501c3s that are opening that have a conservative ideology it's about chasing down parents who want nothing more than to make sure they have the capacity to know what their kids are learning at school these are all things that our law enforcement agencies have taken on they have prioritized things of the left in ways that frankly they have not done for an awfully long time and we have to figure out a way to put them back in the box to reform them so that they are doing the actual work that they were intended the mission that the justice department and the fbi and the department of education were all intended to do were about america not about progressivism and they've moved away from that mike the thing that is is shocking to me is first of all the the President of the united states using the term semi-fascist now i'm still trying to figure out what a semi-fascist is i mean because there's a semi-fascist is that mussolini before hitler arose because he was still a fascist but maybe when hitler arose historically we know the fascism really went into the next level all horrible i don't even know what a semi-fascist is i know this it's a pejorative term and he's labeled basically half the country as semi-fascist so i'm trying to figure out for me what is the political benefit of this because it seems that even the cnn's of the world and m and nbc's and cbs have really drilled down on his people about this although his people are doubling down on it there's no way he can explain what he means President biden doesn't know what he means by semi-fascism someone put that in front of him he read it what we what we know though is they do view half of america as indecent and wrong hillary clinton called them deplorables President obama looked down and felt sorry for folks who joined the military i already said they cling to their cling to their bibles and their guns this is the same mindset that has run through from obama to biden to the progressive movement they view half of america as outside of the american norm when the truth it is there it is a fraction of the democrat party the progressive piece of the democrat party that is deeply disconnected from our judeo-christian heritage and the things that made america special unique and exceptional when we see you know this this kind of non-stop efforts and we saw that we see from the fbi we see the raid we see the media we saw now facebook come out i mean this these are it's almost sometimes tough to distinguish to where those companies start and where the government begins because while they were disruptor companies and that's kind of how they pitched themselves early on now they just seem part of the mainstream so they said well hey we got this general warning and we started making specific political decisions about you know the hunter biden story that you know that we can't talk about but you can talk about russian collusion all you want and they're coming right out and telling us i mean mark zuckerberg's not hiding that this and he the fbi statement back was we do this all the time no mark zuckerberg was very honest about what they did and in response to what the fbi has it's not denied that happened i'm sure it did uh remember the new york times too now says that they got it wrong on the hunter biden laptop uh i think you're you you've captured the essence of the challenge uh they they have inflamed half the country by their actions they have they've behaved in ways that are so deeply outside the norms for those institutions that the that i hope two things will happen one i hope that there's an election this november that puts people in charge of the house and senate that will on continue to unmask this will continue to share with the american people the magnitude and scale and then uh the next President i hope the next President will take this as a serious priority to reform these institutions not to make them not to make them conservative not but to make them american institutions that treat every human being the same and provide equal justice under the law and are not constantly constantly going after those of us who have deeply held conservative beliefs and deeply held religious beliefs so mike the amp up here of the of the actions with the fbi unprecedented under the department of justice under merrick garland where they execute a warrant a search warrant against a former President of the united states home over documents there was a document dispute obviously had been going on for a number of months almost a year and a half and i'm not going to get into the particulars because i don't know the particulars but it ends up in a search warrant a search warrant executed by a judge who recused himself from a case involving the former President and the former secretary of state he recused himself from that civil case but yet did not think he needed to recuse himself from signing and executing a search warrant based on probable cause that a crime has been committed then eventually the former President's lawyers file a motion for a special master and the department of justice of course said we've already reviewed all of this so there's no need for a special master which means it's been reviewed distributed and out and i said you know the lawyers don't seem to be responding at the speed of relevant here but that's their decision and it could be complications with their client i don't know but i do know this it upped the angst among conservatives even if they weren't pro donald trump this whole idea that the the that this is happening in the united states today eight weeks from the midterm elections this used to be the forbidden territory for the department of justice it doesn't seem to be the rules any longer but this really has amped things up it's remarkable jay this is why my piece was was about that's not just about the President so it's bad they they may well have gone after donald trump because he was donald trump but what we know what we know is they have now thrown out the normative rules they've thrown out the set of understandings that we have all operated on for decades and so it's going to require conservatives to understand that and accept that except that these rules are now gone that the norms that we all understood that these institutions would operate within are now out the window so long as this crew is in office it is it's frightening to be honest with you to see the way that they executed a search warrant in a historic way in a way that's so deeply different from how these things have been handled for decades in the united states and haven't apologized for it and haven't explained it yeah that's unbelievable secretary we appreciate you joining us our senior council for global affairs and folks we want you to support the work of the aclg this is an important time for us it's why we have we have a foil folks like secretary pompey on the team and yeah with the foil we are taking action on these issues yeah the concern the fbi you know squelching a media story when you had the new york times famously you know published the pentagon papers and now you know 45 50 years later it's the exact opposite the fbi i understand them saying there's a concern about this and that but to tell them then don't run the story or words to that effect and twitter did kill the story and and mark zuckerberg was very honest and saying the facebook first time he admitting a facebook how they de-throttle yeah they de-throttle so he works that whole idea because a lot of people see oh that's that's a conspiracy that oh maybe it's just there aren't as many conservatives on there anymore maybe but he actually talked about how they do it so he said it doesn't stop you from posting it maybe some people see it but many much less people will see it so that also talked about the general what is going on there not just with the laptop but anytime they want now we've said before again yes they're private company but they have a huge benefit in the section 230 liability and so they have become the government's agent and so it's like the government tells them what to do and they they and that's the bureaucracy at work uh they jump on it because they want that they want to keep that protection we want you to support the work of the aclj i think like secretary papayo said we've said this is not just about donald trump anymore President biden said that as well when he labeled people semi-fascist he said this is not just trump you're included too we got to fight back support our work donate today aclj.org be part of our matching challenge that's aclj.org