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Welcome to the broadcast. This goes into the land of you can't make this stuff up. So the US magistrate, Bruce Reinhart, who issued or executed, signed the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago on the former President's property, actually recused himself from a previous case involving Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton. I've got a copy of the notice of recusal. I'm putting it on the stand, on the stand. I feel like I'm doing a cross-examination.
I'm putting it on the screen. The undersigned magistrate judge to whom the above style case has been assigned hereby recuses himself and refers the case to the clerk of the court for reassignment pursuant to 28 USC 455. So look up 28 USC 455, Andy, and what do we find?
What's the basis upon which this judge who signed a warrant to search Donald Trump's residence recused himself from a civil case just a couple of years ago. Months. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
In June of 2022. You're right. A couple months ago, the case had been around for a couple of years, but the judicial proceedings starting. And you ask yourself, what's the basis that he used for recusal?
He cites the code section. He cites the code section, which says any justice judge or magistrate judge of the United States, this is what he is, shall disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned where he might have, might have a personal bias or prejudice concerning a party. And clearly he said, he admitted in his notice of recusal that he did in Trump versus Hillary Clinton in a case pending in the Southern district of Florida and said, I'm out of it. I'll sign another magistrate judge to it. This was in June of 22. In August of 22, he signs a search warrant for Mar-a-Lago. This, folks, this goes into the category you can't make this up. Now, the judge posted, do we have the post, the Facebook posting?
Can we put it up on the screen? So this is what the judge posts on his Facebook page in 2017. This was a little bit before he was appointed a magistrate judge. He says, I generally ignore President elect's tweets, but not this one. Then it talks about John Lewis.
And at the end of it, he says, I want to avoid getting too caught on, he says, or as John Welch said to Joseph McCarthy, at long last, have you left no sense, have you left no sense of decency, which is the, what's the, of course, the famous quote from Welch to McCarthy, you have no sense of decency. And he was talking about Trump. Now, whether you agreed with what Trump was saying and what Trump was saying at that time or not, this is the judge that executed the warrant, signed the warrant on Donald Trump's residence. He recuses himself in June of 2022 and he executes the warrant, signs it as the magistrate judge three days ago.
Two months ago is what we're talking about here in June of 2022. I'm sure a lot of you have a lot to say about this. Give us a call 1-800-684-3110.
That's 1-800-684-3110. It will be a pretty interesting show today. We're going to be joined by a lot of guests. Obviously we have Andy here in the studio, but we'll have Rick Grinnell on in a segment coming up. We'll also have on Jimmy Petronas, who's the CFO of Florida.
Obviously this happened in his home state. And that will be pretty interesting. You'll hear from him and also wrapping up the show will be Tulsi Gabbard.
So it's going to be a intense and very interesting show. So if you have a question or comment, now is the time to do that. Give us a call 1-800-684-3110. I've had a lot of experience actually with recusals. I had a case that went to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals on the issue of a recusal of a judge on a pro-life case in Wichita, Kansas in the nineties. I know the law of recusal. And what shocks me here, and it is to me shocking, is that this judge recused himself, properly so Andy, from the proceedings just a couple months ago, but then had the nerve to sign a search warrant based on FBI affidavits.
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I think I need to reset the whole program here until you understand what this is. So as happens, once the raid of somebody's house, or they like to say it, once there has been a search warrant executed is what they said, you start finding out things. One of the things is we found out the magistrate judge was Bruce Rinehart.
Judge Rinehart recused himself. I'm gonna put the order on the screen there for you, for our TV audiences, people watching our social media platforms. Here's what he said. He said, the undersigned magistrate to whom the above-styled cause had been assigned, this was a case Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton and the DNC and others, hereby recuses themselves and refers the case to the clerk of the court for reassignment pursuant to 28 USC Section 455.
This is dated at West Palm Beach, Florida, the 22nd day of June, 2022, this year. He also had posted, let's put this on the screen, from Facebook, a negative statement regarding President Trump. He said, at long last have you left no sense of decency. Now that was in reference to a statement that Donald Trump made.
Again, I'm not getting into the merits of the statement. I'm just saying, okay, the judge wisely recused himself. When this proceeding with Hillary Clinton was sent before him, he recused himself. But then he executes as the judge a search warrant of Donald Trump's principal residence.
So I want you to think about this for a minute. He goes ahead and recuses himself, Andy, from a civil case, but on a criminal matter involving the former President of the United States, he signs the warrant. This is unbelievable. I'm aghast.
I'm aghast at this. I've practiced law 47 years, most of which has been as a state or federal prosecutor. And when a magistrate judge says, I am too biased to proceed as a magistrate judge in a civil case involving Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, and therefore I recuse myself, I get out of the case. And then two months later, the FBI comes to him and says, execute, please judge a search warrant on Mar-a-Lago, the former President's residence, even though you have said in social media, quote, Donald Trump doesn't have the moral stature to kiss John Lewis's feet.
You said that. And that is what we call in the law an a fortiori, a stronger case. If you can't be a judge in a civil case, you surely can't sign a criminal arrest, a search warrant, almost slipped there for his house in a criminal case. You know, this judge had to have known that this kind of blowback was coming because clearly two months ago, he said to himself, I can't be impartial. Maybe did the right thing and did the right thing.
So what could have possibly changed not to be a conspiracy theorist here, but what could have possibly changed in two months to make him go, but this one I'm going to do knowing it will be public, knowing that you're going to get blowback from probably both sides now, because you publicly made these statements. You've publicly recused yourself saying, I am too biased to be able to do this. But for this one, maybe the most egregious of all, sign off on it.
It's fine. I mean, this could kill your career. Well, it should. First of all, I'd go in and challenge the, here's what I would do. I'd immediately challenge the search warrant. Immediately. And then I would argue that the documents that were taken or whatever, or whatever else they took under the doctrine of the fruit of the poisonous tree, under those series of cases, I would then argue that, I'm sorry, all of that evidence has to be suppressed because it was the fruit of a poisonous tree.
You didn't have the authority to do this in the first place. That's number one. Number two, I would also, and I think this is where it comes in. And Logan, you're right. He had to know this was coming. But you know, this reminds me of the Mueller stuff with Peter Strzok and Bruce Ohr. You cannot make this stuff up, but they consistently do it. So you wonder why people don't trust the FBI. You wonder why people don't trust the treasury department, which is advertising today that they need new special agents for the IRS, but you have to be willing to, what was the exact phrase they use, Will? Use deadly force. Yeah, use deadly force. This is what your tax payer's money is going to.
And then this judge recused himself in a civil case, but then signed a criminal search warrant. There is no justification for this. But why did they do this?
It's like you said, Logan, they had to know the blowback was going to be used. Let's go ahead. We're taking your calls on this, by the way.
You get your reaction. 800-684-3110. Yeah, we'll go to Edna who's calling in Texas on line one. You're on the air. Hi, thanks for taking my call.
I have probably a dumb or simple question. Sure. Did the judge have to, on the case in June, say which party he had, I mean, we clearly know which party he has a prejudice towards, but did he have to state which one he had a prejudice towards? No, he just has to cite the code section, which he did 28 USC 455, which we said it's when your impartiality might be questioned, which clearly he thought it would be. We have the Facebook post from him criticizing then candidate Donald Trump saying, at long last, have you left no sense of decency, the famous Welch to McCarthy comment.
So you have all of that. And then the judge, instead of saying, you have to go to another magistrate for this, Andy, which would be the protocol he willingly signed, I put him under oath. I want to know what he was thinking.
I'd like to know, Your Honor, here's what I'd like to know. You recused yourself from a civil case seven weeks before this. And then you signed a search warrant on the former President's house.
Now, if the Democrats are trying to make Donald Trump the nominee for the Republican party, they're doing a really good job. To clarify, he actually was President elect. This was two days before the inauguration. So just to clarify, he wasn't just running.
This was already a done deal. He wasn't sworn in yet, but he was the President elect of the United States. Bruce probably didn't think, Bruce Reinhardt did not think he was going to become the probably a magistrate at that point.
Probably not. He was appointed in 2018. I don't remember when he was appointed. I think he was appointed a magistrate in 2018. But the point of the matter is that this is unheard of to me. I can't, I just, when I heard about this and I saw the recusal order, and then I see him signing a search warrant to execute on Donald Trump's private residence, and he says, I have impartiality that might question my judgment in a civil case, but it's okay in a criminal case.
I have no problem going and having a squad of FBI agents go through Mar-a-Lago, you know, and every nook and cranny and corner, I can't understand it. I can't believe it. It's very hard to swallow this judge. We've seen these people show up and a lot of times it's they're looking for their 15 minutes of fame. And it may be what's happening with this judge is that he wants to be the hero in this story. And this is what happens with Democrats.
They become the hero by violating their own law and violating their own conscience. Guess what? A book deal could come.
Something could happen. All of a sudden they're commentating on MSNBC. And this guy we've never heard of is all of a sudden a household name. I mean, I really do think that is a big part of this right now, which is you get to become these little media heroes for a moment. It happened during the committees the last few months. It's happened so many times with random people who barely had any connection other than being one way or the other, all of a sudden become these commonly known, everyone hears them, they show up on Saturday Night Live. They become these characters within this whole political narrative. And that's my only way to look at this and say, that's what this guy was doing. Because why else would he do it unless he was looking for his 15 minutes because he could blow his whole career over it.
Look, I had a major case involving recusal against a sitting federal court judge. Can we play a little bit of that Will? Do we have the ability or are we going to play it for the next... When are we playing it next? Next segment? In the break we're going to play this. Yeah, if you're watching.
If you're watching, let me explain it for those that aren't. So we had a judge and it was a pro-life protest case and it was a huge case called the Summer of Mercy, Wichita, Kansas. But the judge went on TV while I was on TV and says, I can't get this lawyer to turn around and tell his client to stop violating the law. Now my ethical obligation is to tell my client what the consequences are of violating a court order, which I did. And that we would recommend you not violate a court order. Then they made their decision.
But then he went on television with me. So you know what I filed the next day? A motion to recuse the judge. He denied it. I took it to the 10th circuit, which is in the same building right upstairs. And ultimately they granted it. So I know a little bit about recusal and there is no doubt that Judge Reinhardt was correct when he recused himself from the Trump v. Clinton matter.
But let me tell you where he made a gargantuan giant mistake. When he signed the arrest warrant, the search warrant for Donald Trump property in Florida. The mistake was if you recused yourself in June of 2022, eight weeks ago, not even, six weeks ago, because it was June 22nd. What in the world were you thinking, like Logan said, when you signed a search warrant for that same individual's property, you don't think your bias is now, he cited the section that says impartiality. I mean, this is Andy, this is really, this is third world country, makes it like a kangaroo court. I mean, I don't feel like I'm in the United States judicial system. That's the system that is supposed to protect us from the government. Most of all, the cleanliness, the purity of the federal judiciary has been bespotted by this action. And Jay, something that I think is very important that you pointed out. I wonder now how good that evidence that was taken from Mar-a-Lago is. And if I was in a proceeding representing the President, former President, I would move to suppress every bit of that on the basis of the fruit and the warrant too, and that it was the fruit of the poisonous tree under Wong Sung.
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Rick Grenell is not happy about this. All right. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secula. We are joined now by Rick Grenell, senior advisor for national security here at the ACLJ and foreign policy to discuss, I don't know, some things that are happening right now, dad.
Yeah. So Rick, I've been, for the last 20 minutes, because I had one of the major cases on judicial recusal in the country back in the 19, most people won't remember this because they were very, very young. But during the operation rescue days, yeah, early nineties, late eighties, where the judge was saying the clients were going to be found guilty. We didn't even had a hearing yet. And then he shows up on Nightline while I'm arguing and the case, and I'm the other guest on Nightline. But I got him recused. I went to the 10th circuit court of appeals, got him recused. This judge, and this is what's unbelievable to me, Rick, this judge recuses himself from the Trump versus Clinton matter six weeks ago, but then signs and saying it's because his impartiality could be questioned. That's the code section he cited, but yet signs a search warrant six weeks later on the property owned by the very same person, his partiality, he acknowledged himself would be questioned. On an issue, Jay, let's be very clear on an issue that was very similar to Hillary Clinton in terms of classified information.
Look, I've said this before. I think it's worth repeating, but Hillary Clinton's excuse is that she didn't really know that she had classified information and she blamed Jake Sullivan for sending it to her. And Jake Sullivan didn't get rated. Hillary Clinton didn't get rated.
Jake Sullivan actually got a promotion to be national security advisor. This thing stinks. And it's outrageous that what they're doing to Donald Trump, and we have to say it, if they can do this to Donald Trump, they can do this to any American. And that's what they want, political prosecutions.
You know, Rick, I'll tell you where I'm really, I'm really incensed on this, as you can tell. And that is because the bastion of liberty has to be the judicial branch. I mean, it should be all branches of government, but that's like the last resort, right? And the problem here is this judge acknowledged the violation of the perceived impartiality would be a significant enough issue that he invoked on his own in the Trump v. Clinton matter. And as you said, you're talking about similar kind of facts, 28 US code section 455. And that code section says, any judge of the United States shall disqualify himself in any proceeding which is impartiality might be reasonably questioned. So he acknowledges that in a civil case, yet in a criminal matter with a search warrant, the same judge who six weeks ago said he couldn't be impartial and challenged Donald Trump on Facebook two or three years ago, now signs a search warrant. And I keep almost slipping like you to say arrest warrant. Could you imagine if this judge executed arrest warrants for people involved in this?
Oh, and he just happened to be so lack of impartiality that he recused himself from another case involving the same parties. I mean, this is what, I don't believe arrest warrants are coming, but I do believe this, that I would immediately go into court. I would squash this warrant. I would suppress the evidence. I would move to suppress the evidence on a motion to suppress that evidence, Andy.
And then I would say that the evidence can't be used. Now, having said all of that, I think this is just the beginning of what we're seeing, Rick. The political environment there, they up the ante on this thing in the Department of Justice so significantly, did they not think there was going to be repercussions? And as Logan said earlier, did this judge not think this stuff was going to come out? Well, shame on our media for once again, not highlighting this. This is obviously something that should have been known immediately. And maybe if there's a little more pressure on him or a little more attention on the fact that he's already recused himself even before this, that he would have had the public pressure that he needs to recuse himself again. But shame on the media. And again, I'll say thank God for ACLJ. We're finding these types of recusals, this important information.
We're out front and we are able to highlight it. But I do think that every single reporter in Washington, D.C. should know about this. I didn't even know about this until this morning.
And I'm somebody who gobbles up news constantly. But this is unacceptable. And I'll finish with this, is that if you're listening to us, you've got to get out and vote.
No more excuses. I mean, the fact that we don't have people voting as our country is slipping away as political prosecutions grow, as 87,000 IRS employees are hired to go after us, this is getting crazy. So in that IRS hiring, I mean, this is where you, again, you can't make this stuff up. So 87,000 new IRS agents, nothing but trouble. An institution that's incapable of self-correcting, and I worked for Treasury when I was out of law school, but it was a long time ago and it was a very different agency. Now, to make that matter worse, they're now advertising for special agents. That's the Criminal Investigation Division of the IRS. But one of the qualifications are duties to be expected, and I'm gonna have Will read it exactly as they have it in their publication.
This is exactly what they're saying. Major duties, carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force if necessary. On a criminal tax case.
Okay. I mean, think about that one, folks, for a moment. On a criminal tax case, Andy, be prepared to use, as a qualification, be prepared to use deadly force.
It's beyond belief. We're not talking about ATF. We're not talking about FBI or the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs or the old DEA, what is known as DEA, in which you're facing the possibility of gangs and drugs. We're talking about somebody who you alleged not to have properly reported his or her income, and you're gonna be willing to use, you gotta be willing to use deadly force and carry a gun.
Yeah. So, Rick, we've now gone to the land of the absurd. I bring this, it was like all the FBI conflicts during the Mueller problem. I feel like I'm reliving history here, that I'm going through this again, but it's almost worse because now you've got a judge involved. I mean, bad enough it was the FBI agents and Bob Mueller and his team doing double deals and erasing their own evidence. But this is worse.
This is a judge involved in this. Put aside the idea that the federal government is now arming accountants while ignoring school administrators being armed while they're trying to protect our kids in public schools. Put aside that and just realize that what Washington DC and the left is doing is literally arming, equipping and weaponizing government agencies.
Government is becoming so big and crushing and controlling that they want to literally take your entire life and control it. And we've got to fight back. I'm starting to blame weak-kneed Republicans for not seeing the growing signs and saying enough is enough, we're gonna vote, we're gonna get involved.
You can't expect somebody else to do something. You've got to do something. This is out of control and this is a crisis. Red alert. No, it is red alert.
And I'll tell you something. When you have judges starting to act like this, that is a danger sign for your constitutional republic folks. Rick Rinnell, thanks for being with us. And again, we're on unprecedented times here, Rick. Last comment. I mean, how does this play out politically, do you think? Just really quickly, go ahead.
Let's leave people with some good news. What can they do? How can they get involved? And I would just say, support ACLJ, speak up, maybe run for school board, maybe write a bigger check to places like ACLJ or local politicians.
But get involved. You have a voice and you have to step up at this point. I appreciate it, Rick.
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Give a gift today online at ACLJ.org. keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is secular and now your host j secular welcome back to the broadcast everyone if you're just joining us i want to i want to update you on this so the search warrant that was executed by the fbi and signed by a magistrate judge judge reinhardt in florida u.s district magistrate judge and that is what these magistrate judge do this was for the search warrant he recused himself in a case back on june 22nd of 2022 just a couple weeks ago involving President trump and former secretary of state bill clinton uh hillary clinton so you got former President of the united states so a former secretary of state he gets the case he recuses himself because he's and he cites a code section that talks about lack of impartiality the same judge and this is what folks you gotta understand the same judge that recused himself in a civil case six weeks ago not even executes and signs a search warrant on donald trump's property home so let me tell you you know this is unprecedented outrageous this judge needs to be recused again motions need to be filed they need to suppress that evidence this is absurd that this judge would do it cc house senior counsel for the aclj we were going to talk about some of our other cases i want to stay on this topic because cc you've been practicing law a long time too i frankly this is one and i handled one of the most contentious cases involving recusal in the country for the pro-life movement back in the late 80s early 90s this one is right up there with the maybe greater of a threat to democracy and when you have a judge that recuses himself in a civil case because he is admitting that he cannot make an impartial decision that he is biased and then to turn around just a couple months later like you said i think six weeks later and then issuing and signing a criminal warrant that just blows my mind because you can't say well in those six weeks i'm not biased anymore it's ridiculous you're probably even more biased logan let's take the caller call fred on line one fred in tennessee line one you're on the air hi fred go ahead all right he's not there andy i want to i want to follow up on this i if you are recusing yourself from a civil case how do you not recuse yourself from a from a search warrant in a criminal matter well you don't do you if you're recused because one of the parties or the parties or you yourself have an impartial mindset then you're recused from dealing with that person in all manner of cases civil or criminal look what happened was simply this they there's a civil case trump sues clinton he says i can't be a part of this i gotta recuse myself because i am not impartial because i made statements on social media against the then President-elect donald trump i said i said things about him and then those statements now the fbi comes to me six weeks later and says judge i want you to sign a search warrant for mar-a-lago you should have said wait a minute just six weeks ago i recused myself from dealing with donald trump because i can't be impartial take this to another magistrate judge i don't want to hear any evidence the defense there's no defense lawyers in these proceedings by the way when they go get these warrants so the judge cc had to do this on his own and here it's not like the judge said oh i forgot about that impartiality issue that i just signed on june 22nd six weeks ago eight seven weeks ago i forgot about that no he didn't forget about it but this is a criminal matter and he doesn't recuse himself right and you know my gut reaction would be that's exactly why they went to this magistrate is because they knew he would sign it because they knew he has a bias against President trump he he said it publicly he's recused himself in a civil case publicly and then signs a criminal warrant six weeks later he should have recused himself it seems like they went to him specifically because they knew he would do it here's what here's what that's a very interesting point here's the question the question would be do you file a motion to suppress the evidence yes do you file a motion to quash that uh search warrant yes do you say that the evidence taken cannot be used for the poisonous tree yes all of that has to happen like i said i'm a little bit of an expert on on recusal motions i had a big case involving recusals folks this is a huge development we've got a lot of guests coming up we do coming up in the next segment cfo of florida jimmy patronus followed by tulsi gabbard later in the broadcast so you don't want to miss that and that's coming up in just a couple minutes if you're watching on social media very short break and then we'll be right back with the cfo of florida jimmy patronus welcome back to secular continuing this show a lot of great guests and we're joined now by jimmy patronus who is the cfo of the state of florida obviously there's some news coming out of florida dad it's something that's been uh breaking the last few days and we thought it'd be great to have someone who represents the state of florida well you know jimmy patronus and the patronus family have been in florida a long long time and jimmy first of all it's great having you on here uh and thanks for making time i i just want to start i've got a lot of questions to ask you because in your position as cfo you had a lot of the financial stuff and i want to get into this irs situation in a moment but i want to start with this raid that took place in your state and now we know that the judge that signed the search warrant recused himself from a civil case involving former President trump and former secretary of state clinton but he didn't then recuse himself from a criminal search warrant and this is mind-boggling and you've been very strong on this give me your reaction when you first heard this i'm so glad you're talking about this when i first saw this and what guys thank y'all for having me um but when i first saw this document i said you got to be kidding this has got it's got to be some type of a you know hoax on social media and as i started seeing more and more of the facts come out about this i mean this is incredibly troubling i mean this is the this is the same department of justice dealing with the same judge who recused himself when trump was going to sue hillary clinton but now it's perfectly okay for him to sign the search warrant to go in the in the dark of morning to go raise the former President's residence yeah i mean it's civil if you if you're recusing yourself in a civil case and as i said to our audience he cited in his order 28 usc 455 andy which is the impartiality section right that is correct that is the section that says that a magistrate that might be impartial or impartiality might be questioned shall disqualify himself and he did jimmy he did disqualify himself yeah no question he did it he disqualified himself the right thing to do what was he thinking that six weeks later i could sign a search warrant on the same party that i just said i couldn't be impartial to this is what's so outrageous but you you sent out a great tweet it said this administration has lost its mind it's corrupt it's political only in a dictatorship do they use the power of government to eliminate their enemies and before we get into the irs thing i just want to stick on this for another moment jimmy and that is this you're right i said just said this to our our in our previous segment to rick renell this idea that a federal judge now has shown his bias when he knew he could not be impartial and signs a search warrant in a criminal case recuses himself from a civil case puts the entire judicial branch of our government kind of the the guardian rail here of a constitutional republic in jeopardy what's your thoughts well i mean i i looked at you know chuck schumer's own words when he was on mad out he said if you take on the intelligence community they've got six ways from sunday to get you back so i mean so they went and found a friendly judge who already had a sympathy towards the democrats or obama writing thousands of dollars in campaign contributions it just it just never stopped so they they hand-picked who they went to to get this search warrant there's no two ways about it well you know they certainly went to the southern district florida where it was and you know cc you brought that up and i don't know the procedure and how they get them i do know this this judge knew he shouldn't have done it absolutely and that's what makes it so suspect that it it looks like they were hand shopping who they could get to sign this warrant a criminal warrant and it was the just the magistrate who had already said i'm biased i have a bias against President it's not like jimmy it's not like somebody's making a motion about you know you should maybe have to recuse yourself because you're impartial he made this motion what they call sui smantai on his own he did he said i'm biased i can't do it um you i want to ask you this question and i want to get in this irs matter and that is this how important do you think it is right now for conservatives i mean this is i think we've reached a tipping point here how important is it do you think for conservatives at this point to start pushing back on these abuses and calling it for what it is well part of me kind of feels like the the the congress right now knows their days are numbered there's going to be a revolution in the house representatives rick scott is leading the effort to make the revolution a reality in the senate and and i think they're trying to run the tables as much as they can while they have their their raises thin margin that they've got so you know hopefully this empowers we say we're going to get 40 members in the house hopefully this can get us to the point where you get 46 members maybe 47 members because this is this is incredibly over reach of power against the citizens of the united states jimmy you are the the chief financial officer for the state of florida you are of course a partner in your family's well-known business captain anderson which has been around for a very long time i think it's best seafood restaurant in the country i will say that but you also are responsible in your in your public life for the finances of the state of florida and we are now seeing the you got this inflation reduction act that the administration put forward and then you have this funding within it of the irs who is an institution that i sued on behalf of conservative organizations because they were targeted by the irs that is in institutionally incapable of correcting itself you're a finance guy i mean you're a business guy this irs move and this move with the inflation reduction act i think is another attack on civil liberties and doesn't also make financial sense well first off whenever congress names a bill i think it usually does the opposite of whatever they say it's going to do so you just reflect on the affordable care act there was nothing affordable about health care after that so when you think of the inflation reduction act all this is going to do is add to the inflation crisis we're going to add 87 000 new irs agents to to to the job roles to go out there and harvest dollars from the citizens of the united states and look i i fear they're going to target florida there's 23 billion dollars of new wage growth that the state of florida has gotten over the last year california's lost 18 billion dollars in the same period so look florida's prosperity has become the jealousy of the federal government uh ronda sanus is living rent-free in joe biden's head and i think this is all part of a big scheme to grow the job scheme to grow government while they have the ability to influence the agenda yeah i think you're right and this is logan secular by the way great to actually talk to you i know we've conversed a few times on social media but it's very interesting uh to see this coming especially you said florida and how florida has thrived and how you've seen so many people move to florida i'm a property owner in the state of florida proud property owner in the state of florida but you've also done some really interesting things even for the support of israel and things we've talked about with the scrutinized companies list i think you've seen florida move forward where actual people want to go where they want to see whether it's ben and jerry's or whoever it was a few weeks ago that you were dealing with uh in in seeing those kind of you know mainstream ideas that people want to you know the media wants to pretend don't exist but the state of florida has proven now uh that this is really the mainstream well i like being held accountable and and it's in the restaurant business my attitude has always been is you take care of the customer or another restaurant will and my attitude in tallahassee has always been is we're going to take care of our constituents or i'm going to find somebody else that will so we have we have very little patience for giving citizens of the state of florida the run around we work very hard to give them a responsible uh respect uh a responsible uh need to their services so i mean i'm i'm very proud of the job we do in florida very proud of governor de santis i'm very proud of our republican members of congress and the fights they're they're they're keeping up with right now and and i'm looking forward to the bright new day in november jimmy i want to underscore word you said in that is fight i mean look i mean i deal with as people know i deal with the courts i represented President trump some of the most contentious matters in their nation's history and then to have this happen is is so incredible and i i just want what are you hearing from your constituents in the state of florida this because my phone is exploding i can't imagine that yours is anything less than that uh i was at a large group general last night and that's all everybody was talking about was the outrage of how our federal government has crossed the line and and all they look is the hypocrisy that has existed in the decision making in these these administrations and look and look yeah i think that they're an axe to grind with people the department of justice towards trump maybe but trump kept calling them out for the hypocrisy you know you're exactly right i mean i mean you're you're you're the agenda is politically motivated 51 of of of general folks poll said this is politically motivated by trump's opponents but the beautiful thing is 81 of republic said this charges them up more to go vote this november which i'm very you know unfortunately maybe just needed to happen to be able to get the extra maybe even a super majority in congress absolutely right jimmy patronus chief financial officer of florida thanks for being on we look forward to having you back great insight thanks for being with us come and eat with us i appreciate it we'll do that you can rest assured on that uh let's take glenn's call really quick logan right here glenn in arizona on line four you're on the air glenn go ahead real quickly run out of time yes sir so the question i had i need your insight was the secret service notified by the fbi because we know this government has a pattern of colluding the national only 40 the reports are that they only receive notice 45 minutes before and their job is to protect the the protectee the President and his property because from potential threats so 45 minutes before is what we heard but technically they didn't have to get any advance notice right no they can go there would take their warrant and then show the warrant to whomever and then just go ahead and execute it they didn't have to give notice to anybody no lawyers had the right to be there nobody had a right to question it the magistrate said go to it they could have this judge had no excuse to not recuse himself cc none absolutely not he's biased he he himself admitted it so he should have been recused on this one as well all right coming up in the next sandwich wrap up the show we have tulsi gabbard i'm sure she's got a lot to say about all of this so we're going to have that discussion coming up if you do have a last second call you can try getting through 1-800-684-3110 to support the work of the aclj during this matching challenge at aclj.org make sure you follow all of us on social media but again when we come back we'll be joined by tulsi gabbard on secular welcome back to secular to wrap up today's jam-packed show we are joined by former congresswoman from hawaii tulsi gabbard who i know you all know and you've seen her on a lot of our content before last year was in our documentary series avenge of the taliban that i hosted and it has been about a year since then and that hasn't slowed down no it sure hasn't and i am thrilled to have uh tulsi back on with us and and tulsi i've known you for a long time i knew you in congress i knew you before congress and your activities and your family's work in hawaii but i i gotta start with what is to me mind numbing that we now have learned that the judge that issued the search warrant signed the search warrant at the former President's home recused himself from a civil matter involving a lawsuit with donald trump versus hillary clinton because as he acknowledged this came out on his own motion that he was not capable of being impartial six weeks ago six weeks ago and then six weeks later after he recuses himself from a civil case he has no problem signing a search warrant in a criminal matter against the same parties yeah i hadn't heard that that's uh a clear clear conflict of interest and and just further goes to the root of the problem of what we're seeing with all of this you know so many people in the in this country have lost faith and trust in these systems in the department of justice um these these institutions that are that literally exist to serve the american people and just the level of corruption the the increasing weaponization of you know whether it's department of justice department of homeland security the irs uh to go after political opponents in broad daylight is is just shocking and incredibly dangerous and then on top of this and you tweeted about this you said our democracy is in grave danger government institutions and you say do uh doj department of justice form of homeland security the irs are blatantly being weaponized now literally they are blatantly being weaponized so and i think this is important for people to understand in our audience but tulsi you've talked about this and you were concerned about this from your congress the congress has passed legislation that adds 87 000 irs agents to the irs an institution that i sued on behalf of conservative organizations who are being unlawfully and illegally targeted by the irs and a court agreed with us and the agency was forced to change its ways now that was the whole lois learner matter we now put it on fast forward they're basically doubling the number of agents and then they said and i i will i want to get the language exactly right because i want the congresswoman to to respond to this that a major duty of the special agents now and this is in their publication tulsi is to carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force if necessary that's how they're that's as part of their job responsibilities for a criminal tax case which is what they would be involved in so this is why the american people are really getting nervous absolutely this is this is government out of control and again when you when you look at it on its face you got to wonder like well why why does the irs need armed agents to to conduct their business we have many other federal law enforcement agencies who are trained and capable of being able to go after criminals period the irs isn't even doing a very good job at their most basic responsibility why they're trying to get into or why they are they are deeply into this this law enforcement function should be concerning but then you take it to the next step and then you look at as you mentioned how this entity the irs is going after political opponents and then you add the force of the gun behind that this this is not and this is why i said in my tweet democracy is in grave danger because this sort of thing is what we expect to see from you know authoritarian governments dictatorships who who openly uh turn these these entities into their their goon squad their mercenaries to go after people who dare to dissent people who dare to challenge them and how we are seeing this now happening before our very eyes in the united states of america which is celebrated you know around the world as the this this uh example of democracy what's not it's not so you know i always like to give people hope too and that is we do live in the greatest country in the world but our our constitutional republic as tulsi just said it's in danger i i want to ask you about this because when you see this happening it it's so obviously political and you had a very interesting uh tweet that you said regardless of how you feel about former President trump this fbi raid throws fuel on the fire of distrust and of course that's a dangerous precedent our i think we've reached a point tulsi where the distrust level is palpable and then this judge adds more fuel to that fire the judge that recuses himself in a civil case involving trump and then signs a search warrant in in a criminal case just adds to this but how do we restore hope for the american people and and you're right you know we there is hope and uh the hope lies in the hands of the american people we cannot live in a fantasy that somehow these corrupt politicians are going to police themselves or willingly give up their power they won't that's been proven time and time again so it's in it's in our hands and we talk about democracy and how we have to exercise our voices in throwing out these leaders who are corrupt using our voices exercising our rights to free speech or right to peacefully protest and don't let them off the hook we have to continue to hold them accountable you and your team do such tremendous work throughout the legal system and making that happen through your show and in other means every one of us has to do our part if we hope to make things better it's something i experienced when i was running for President as i was traveling around the country i met great americans every single day from across the political spectrum who love america and who want us to see a brighter future we have to stand together now all of us we have to stand together and make that happen we appreciate it former member of congress tolsey gabbard a brilliant analysis and also did a tremendous service to our country and you continue to do that in the military which we appreciate thanks for being with us as always it was good talking to you thank you so much great to talk to you have a great day you too all right so andy as we as we wrap this up and cc let's just put this in context if you're joining this program late we have an unprecedented move here a sitting magistrate who recused himself from a civil suit involving donald trump and hillary clinton because as he said on his own he filed a notice of recusal because he and he cited the statute andy on impart lack of impartiality he then signs a criminal a search warrant in a criminal case involving one of those parties donald trump absolutely should never have done so if you can't touch a civil case you surely can't touch a criminal case and see see this judge as you said he had to know when logan said this they had to know this was coming out absolutely and the and the point of the matter is he himself admitted his bias he did he was the one that said i can't rule in this civil case because i'm biased against President trump but six weeks later he his bias did not just disappear in six weeks it's probably gotten even worse and he's willing to sign this warrant and it's ridiculous in a criminal case it is absolutely it should not have happened if you can't do it in a civil case and he did it acknowledge that he shouldn't be doing it you certainly can't do it in a criminal matter folks you've heard a lot of people talk about the work of the aclj today we're able to give you this analysis you see us on the camera there are a lot of people behind the scenes putting this hour together every day five days a week 52 weeks a year we want to encourage you to support the work of the aclj we're in our um about first 10 days our matching challenge here support the work any match you donate to the aclj we're going to get a matching gift where i encourage people logan to do it you can tell them how that's right you can do it right now at aclj.org it's matching challenge means all donations 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