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Failure After Foreign Policy Failure

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March 15, 2022 2:49 pm

Failure After Foreign Policy Failure

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You see OJ's post now 20. The Bible's ration came into power is about window elections have consequences.

It was a mess of intellectual but ultimately present buys their where the President is most powerful where they have the most unchecked power constitutionally and throughout the court court precedent is in the realm of foreign-policy.

We knew the Bible nutritious foreign-policy runs be bad, but dangerous dangerous for posse begging the Iranians and so far they've not been successful in doing but they're still trying begging the Iranian student to let the US back into their bullet point JC POA, the Iran nuclear deal.

The joint comprehensive plan of action Mr. Becky that not no response to China on the fact that coping 19 is likely the responsibility. You look at the situation in the Middle East. There there gives the fact that Jerusalem would recognize the capital of Israel.

They've they've they've talked about try to reopen a separate Embassy in Israel, just for Palestinians and that was an Embassy that had a lot of problems because it was basically a pro-Palestinian US outpost, which is not how any of our ABC should be that we know again with whether it was Russian aggression Chinese aggression Taiwan Ukraine that the again covert the Iranian nuclear situation.

We knew that this administration was going to be a disaster. They they have proven that to be the case that he been pretty effective but at the ACLJ we took a direct action by by beefing up our team at the highest level so you brought on former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo brought on Rick Ruddell for acting director of national intelligence and investor Jeremy we were able to bring both of them on because we were in a financial position to do so since were there. They are part of RT, they are not just guest on a radio broadcast at and I was would encourage people to think past just the hour they see us today on on air or watch us or listen to us. They're not just about the guest of the broadcast. Your week we are working with the behind the scenes were utilizing their expertise, their contacts, their knowledge and filings in FOIA filings. For instance, we will have them review to make sure.using words, it would old using the right language taking it to the next level if you will, at the ACLJ we were able to do that because even with covert, even with the uncertainty were threat of the last election people support our work they do. It was important to continue to support our work financially. So I think all you did because were able to make those moves so this broadcast they really dive into all the foreign-policy work.

The ACLJ our international affiliates. Art is directly engaged in how we take it to a next level and so your your financial support allows us to not just I get it is such an abbreviated Rick and Mike Pompeo. Again, I would let you that they are not just contributors to a radio broadcast. The it's a senior counsel position and as supervisor position about but also the work that goes into that of two through RT were allowed to go. There were people that don't seal the broadcast who support that additional work and expertise that were able to breathe again. So I encourage if you care to support a work ACLJ.or today can double the impact or duration of a matching challenge in ACLJ.org and if you listing to the broadcast. They could be encouraged as well. This is a critical time that the ACLJ to support our work financially at this a matching challenge month and I know that you've heard me say that before. If you're a regular listener to the broadcast. You watch the broadcast.

But let me just tell people why you are thinking about making a financial contribution to the ACLJ or and into the work that we do where that goes well, you know, obviously. To do this broadcast every day to get this out. Cost cost resources. But, of course, most resources go to fighting the battles of course using our broadcast is important to that is fighting the battles and courts is fighting the battles in Congress is fighting the battles international courts so all it all over international work that we do all over the world for religious liberty for freedom of speech, protecting your constitutional rights and again in the time we believe ACLJ is needed now more than ever to the matching challenge month we have a group of donors is ready to match every donation that comes through double the impact your donation donate online today in ACLJ.org the American Center for Law and disorientation. Critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those who are persecuted for their faith covering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress ACLJ without your support for that.

We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help in any way you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 time for the ACLJ the work we do.

Simply enter Jerusalem making a difference in the constitutional and you forgive today online ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created three powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all sealed cases. Patient is on the care means to discover the many ways your membership is powering the right question for you/things that I am increasingly concerned about the countries increasingly concerned about and that is the situation as it relates to China in a couple different avenues one is.

It seems like the Chinese Communist Party has been emboldened since Joe Biden's been present day have consistently rebuffed efforts on the coping 19 investigation and it seems like the policies that you had in place as Secretary of State have pretty much been I would say no. If either just not following up on it. What makes no sense to me is that you had such, we had as a Kaiser human. We as a country had such great success. What it is it just anything that's a previous ministration they want to touch, though it may be that I've certainly seen that in other places as well. But with respect in the Chinese commerce party. In particular, I think they're just view it differently than we did they do it in the same way that the foreign-policy establishment admitted for 40 years before the trump administration as well write it is if we just sell them some more trinkets, we gotta forget how to get along their big country we can upset the Chinese commerce party. Our view was they have destroyed millions of jobs in United States of America that stolen billions of dollars in wealth. They now foisted this virus that killed hundreds of thousands of Americans upon us, and covered it up there committing genocide in the western part of China that want to take over independent nation of Taiwan destroyed freedom Hong Kong.

This collective set of activities makes the Chinese commerce party. If you added to the military capability. The singular greatest threat to our freedom. We were serious about responding to that wall that they said a few things that are good in the biter ministration. There is no evidence that prepared to execute on the one thing that I found fascinating on the Hong Kong situation was Hong Kong which was a beacon of freedom basically in the in the in the metric of dealing with China because of the way the legalities were set up for China was able reassert control. Was there anything that could have been done. Do you think you made that transition where it would not have foreseen. Basically, the Communist Party's control directly on Hong Kong like it had a very difficult proposition different than Taiwan. There are many more tools available for Taiwan.

This was an internal agreement may negotiate agreement of the men, the Chinese clearly walked away from their part of the agreement with the United Kingdom. Frankly with the world so it was a difficult probably try to support the freedom loving people that we try to support Jim Eli. You all did great work on religious freedom. There here at the ACLJ that was an important part of what you were doing. So we tried to provide the underpinnings, but in the end, when she made the decision that he was going to use force and political power to overtake that it make a frankly Hong Kong now just another Chinese communist city.

The tools that we had an arsenal pretty limited. We know now having both ministration is a great the Chinese are committing genocide they there's no mistake about that. That's one agreement between the trump ministration, biter ministration, but the question I think for a lot of people is how we got to the point of no return when it comes to holding the Chinese Communist Party and their leaders actually accountable for these actions. Can we do that is, it is impossible to turnback this clock if you will with a new set of political leaders in a new set of policies in Jordan it's a really important question everyone who's watching this today needs to understand that the magnitude of what is happening there rivals. What happened in Europe in the 1930s. This is a problem with epic scale and a set of human rights violations.

That is why it's it's it's hard to even talk about right for sterilizations on women being forced to have abortions. Interment taking families apart on a scale of millions so that requires a global response is certainly an American-led global response. There are things we can do. We can sanction leaders we can do if we can convince them that commerce coming from nonpar of Western China is not in a flood not only to the United States to any place in the West was a real economic cost of the Chinese leadership. There are series of tools we could take none of which require new laws. I think there'd be bipartisan support on Capitol Hill for this, but in the end present binds. Gotta make a decision as he wanted us except genocide is the standard practice. The Chinese Communist Party is he going to take real actions that can convince them that they can continue to do this and I want switch or focus a little bit to the Middle East because it's it's interesting that were dealing with China in significant ways and have been in and we have the situation with Iran and then the greater Middle East issue. I have said that Iran is the greatest exporter of terrorism in the world because they will support Hezbollah and they will support Hamas. When we look in Iran we had this horrific joint comprehensive plan JCP away. That was not even an agreement to supposedly slow down Iran's nuclear ambitions at the same time, I will never forget this way, the pastor that was in jail famous site admitting they finally got released. The first thing he told me when he got released when he came to the United States was white in the world in the United States pay $1.8 billion to the Iranians. This literally on a conference call Lupino to this regime because of course he's looking at injustice and more money for for terrorism more money for oppression of of freedom so you look at the nuclear deal that the binding ministration seems to be bent on getting back into then there's these reports that the nuclear activities have been increasing, and on top of that, while the United States withdrew from the agreement. The rest of the European Union stated and the Iranians acknowledged they have not been following it. So one night when date why is this deal so important to this administration, we know the end result of its gonna be not followed.

Why do they is this an Obama legacy issue for them. Yes hundred percent. This is become an article of faith for the left inside the foreign-policy establishment. This was the greatest achievement of Pres. Obama's second term.

That's their term, not mine is over. When we walked away from. This was this was heretical getting back and it is absurd. I chuckle when you talk about Pastor again.

It's not funny. I chuckle because it is so absurd to think the wording to buy our way out of the problems that were these mullahs in Iran is just look at the binary change in Iranian behavior since we withdrew from the JCP away and began to take down the capacity of the regime to conduct air around the world until their nuclear program. We had been to their last $4 billion in foreign exchange reserves the new ministration comes in and makes clear, were in a pay any price, bear any cost to get back into this deal and the Iranians rejected mixed continued extract so they now received permission to receive some $7 billion from that frozen assets from Asia. They have conducted missile launches from Gaza Strip to their proxy terrorism us into Israel there now hijacking ships off the genre in the in the open waters in international waters with diminishing note that they have a friend and that Americans are sitting at the table, begging them to come back into this poorly constructed deal it is. It's an article of faith. There is no logic to it. Unless you believe the core proposition that Iran is a balancing act or and and I've heard some Democrats say that we need or want to be more powerful. So the balance out the bad actors in Saudi Arabia and in the Emirates and is I think this is crazy. It's not America's best interest and yet I I think there are some on the left to hold this view, it's a it.

By the way that things like it. It borders on any somatic delicates of the support for the most anti-Semitic regime in the Middle East.

The Iranian regime endangers Israel makes it more likely that they have to actually attack the Iranian nuclear program and puts it rest the Jewish home. It was interesting as we were isolating Iran when you were Secretary of State and we saw the benefits of that and at the same time we saw the Abraham court so you had this significant development of Middle East. The progression Middle East peace with the Palestinian issue not resolved because the Palestinians leadership has to want to resolve it.

And as we've seen in Oslo as we seen the Camp David Accords in the why agreement and all of these at the end of the day when the Palestinian authority is offered everything I've asked for.

They still turn it down because they wanted this is this is a business enterprise for them, but we saw the success of the Abraham court has significantly think that it very significant.

I don't think it will unravel because I think the people in Bahrain in the Emirates and in the other countries to Jordan and Egypt. The places that he recognizes your Morocco Sudan think they're all gonna conclude this is in their best interest, but I will say this, the policies that are being put in place are back to the same Obama policies that threaten the Jewish right to their own pace of Abraham Accords in Iran policy were deeply linked we would love to resolve the Palestinian issue, but in the end the passing leadership has to make the case to their own people.

This is whereto the ACLJ has been very important remember it, Israel is the one nation were Christians, Jews, Muslims can all writer their Israelis right to these lands is pretty clear they are not an occupying nation that BDS mode stuff that the ACLJ has been working on for an awfully long time where we have to stay after this. This administration will not defend these issues and not protect America and Israel. I'm so glad that you are engaged on the were dealing with one right now.

I mean, and this is coming you even think how can this clinician would Ben & Jerry's the company. Okay, so the Bennett Ben & Jerry's cancels basically says if you're in a cell in the settlements by what the settlements have 60 70,000 people in the lease or not like that had pitched in townhouses as leaders and representatives at Sion foundation amended and it's got a storied history, but it's amazing to me that they innocently got.

I caught the ice with ice cream diplomacy going on in the in Israel. Remember tornado ancestry search a pump that he recently said if America is not strong. The world will be at the mercy of tyrants and enter an error.

We dared not imagine that there was both historical and addictive historical know we know when America's week. What happens, we know that the we watch the Anschluss velocity in land where we we know what happens when we allow tyrants to roam free and so if America is not leaving that in fact I have a lot of room to take away freedom here at home in the United States. This is a critical time at the ACLJ to support our work to the matching challenge month we have a group of donors is rate to match every donation comes through double the impact your donation donate online today in ACLJ.org only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is certainly is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life.

We've created three powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all sealed cases nations monetary means to serve the many ways your membership abuse children powering the right question for you/the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom to those who are persecuted for their faith covering correction in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the court seat in Congress.

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The work we do. Simply enter Jerusalem and making a difference in the constitutional and you forgive today online ACLJ and they call them reports like investigation ask because our Europeans and of law and justice is a NGO with the with you and sweep status so they asked us to help put together the Israel dossier. Basically the report that was being done by their their people and they wanted to meet and that was help set up many meetings at other groups to it too but we played a large role.

Interestingly, they wanted to meet with Christians in in the West Bank and Gaza supported with Emily, so I sent solicited.

We just want to go there and interview as it went. You'll just go there and interview them if they're not openly practicing the religion in the West Bank and Gaza, especially in gossip but West Bank to very caucus of masses mistaken about what you know. So we had to meet with pastors in olive grove outside of Bethlehem so we look at the issue of religious freedom and religious persecution, which would handle globally.

I want to start again with China.

You said it we set it. We continue to say they are practicing religious persecution at a level that we cannot imagine.

I went to. We've been to China. I spoke at a conference supported by the Chinese government and the pupating University Chinese government.

Basically, it was on religious liberty First Amendment dated judges, US judges come in for Bill's judges. I was up very well done event, the Atty. Gen. of any staff there was Bobby 1500 people in attendance, but was interesting as I met with some of the leaders of the house churches which people done in understanding with the zoster is not set 10 people in a room underneath them, and it may be maybe two floors in an office building but they're not open openly do it.

They do have the three self patriotic Christian church which is official progress, examined and researched what was so incredible to me was I a similar where you want to worship that's on and I said let's go to the priest so I was with us like the three self patriotic church so we go there in the pasture and songs you recognize and bring song obscene Chinese but you know the hams and pastor starts a sermon. Seems like a pretty regular sermon I made was a decent sermon the stops in the middle of. And since of course none of this would exist at least on what salvation is talking about faith. None of this would exist without mainly goes into the whole Chinese Communist Party discussion so when you look at you said oppression, persecution, genocide, religious persecution in China, Israel. Israel and growing yes why I know many folks who have gone to China over the last 30 years as missionaries and pastors trying to build up faith communities take Bibles to their wall today that today is worse than it was five or 10 or 15 years ago. The room for freedom to practice faith is not grossly limited and dangerous how we seen this happen to young people who come to United States and or just want to go back there and and preach the Lord for we had had folks want to go over there and talk about Islam inside the country no opportunity to do so. It is as repressive regime when it comes to religious freedom is anyplace in the world that at one thing we need every person of faith working on the set initiate ACLJ has an important role. There the churches themselves, including the Catholic Church just needs to bear witness to this for no one one less thing on that we we had a case right now involving Chinese pastors Pastor John Saul. He is as American green card he was living United States going back to China doing basically mission work gets picked up charged put in prison and I think it's going on here for now. We taken it to the UN's arbitrary detention panel basin is being detained unlawfully questioning doesn't respond to that. We got involved in the case right is the kind towards the end of the administration.

Your Ms. Tracy of Imprimis. Ms. Beerman's ration is that the estate was very very helpful in the course now basically stone silent with the current one that may make be taught China and Christians. Religious persecution Alexandra McNair out on so that its debts as part of the prom that were sent 90. The religious freedom is central to human rights that if you don't, you can have a country where there is real human rights without religious freedom and religious liberty in the core belief of mine. It was a core piece of understanding of the State Department under Pres. trumpet was work that we were doing to acknowledge that America is better off right.

We always think about America first American is better off with nations around the world permit their people to practice their faith in the way that they want to, that the nations are more stable. Their people are happier economic growth. All this data sets revolving around allowing folks to practice the faith and so we work diligently on and we had a big team. We had ministers of our people all across the world.

It was a real priority, Pres. trumpet was the first President ever to go to the United Nations Gen. assembly and talk about religious freedom. This is an important part of who we are as Americans in its it's it's both moral and correct. But it's also a good thing for American freedom and safety reflect sometimes on what it took for us to get our Europeans informs us is accredited United Nations what it was. It was a multiyear process with multiple hearings and will never forget. We finally got it we were before the general assembly of that process and every conceivable group with the strangest things being approved as NGOs and it was us, and I believe it was us in the Jewish national fund stains denies the course part of the problem was we had we had sued Turkey. We had sued Russia. We had you brought litigation and international tribunal so they were friendly. We finally got up we got it by force and we went in there and I folded the whoever was the presiding Pres. that particular time that we are not leaving without it.

Because is no justification for this none none you're proving all these other groups and it's starting to look like you. It's a little bit anti-Semitism because we have an office in Jerusalem. Finally we got it and return it to the case that you worked on with us for a close limited numerical case preferential Bronson so here we have an American citizen from practicing his faith feels called to the mission field. He goes to Turkey starts a church and its mayor 23 years, no problem. All of a sudden picked gets picked up by Turkish forces jailed in prison trial starts working with Turkish lawyers on the trial were working very closely with you and your team in the White House for his release. Turkey was in a no ally without disclosing things we can't disclose he was a political pawn. That's what might my sense of it is, as I was on some of the calls was that they were using Bronson as a negotiating tool with the United States, the Turks, so we had many complex issues with the Turks. There were NATO ally, but there also engage in activities that we didn't want them to be engaged and I think the Prez everyone knew that a CS he was looking for points of laboratory at high capacity the impact that we were thinking about our decision-making process. So it's it was most unfortunate. They were that they picked him up because they knew he would be important to the United States of American.

God bless present from we got this right. We made we made clear this was unacceptable and began to sense it took to do the things that I was tired, but you have to use the tools of power that the United States has and Pres. Trump was prepared to do that by sanctioning senior Turkish officials to convince Pres. Erewhon that that he needed to allow Pastor Brunson to come chuckling a little bit because I was I was on one of those calls with when the present was talking to her prisoner in one he tells the one who you know doesn't know who this person is he goes I want you to know if he's not released by the end of this week. This will be the most expensive pastor you've ever detained and and he'll be more famous than Billy Graham which I don't know if that relate to one, but I remember the economic impact, financial Times runs an article that says I mean I can but release that says we just didn't Jay Sekulow indicate a possible release of Pastor Brunson is imminent.

Turkish lira increases in value. This is a critical time at the ACLJ to support our work to the matching challenge month we have a group of donors is rate to match every donation comes through double the impact your donation donate online today and ACLJ the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate will be managed $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 checking the constitutional and religious freedom is most important to you in your beautiful gift today online keeping you informed and now is what I hear from you, Sharon poster, call 1-800-684-3110 20's ration came into power present by window elections have consequences. It was a mess of an election. But ultimately present buys their where the President is most powerful where they have the most unchecked power constitutionally and throughout the courts to court press. It is in the realm of foreign-policy we knew by the mistresses foreign-policy allegedly bad, but dangerous dangerous foreign-policy begging the Iranians and so far they've not been successful in doing but there still try begging the Iranians to to let the US back into their bullet point IGC POA, the Iran nuclear deal. The joint comprehensive plan of action is to beg you that not no response to China on the fact that coping 19 is likely the responsibility. You look at the situation in the Middle East.

There there gives the fact that Jerusalem would recognize the capital of Israel. They've they've they've talked about try to reopen a separate Embassy in Israel, just for Palestinians and that was an Embassy that had a lot of problems because it was basically a pro-Palestinian US outpost, which is not how any of our ABC should be that we knew again with whether it was Russian aggression Chinese aggression Taiwan Ukraine that the again covert the Iranian nuclear situation. We knew that this administration was going to be a disaster hit date, they have proven that to be the case that he been pretty ineffective but at the ACLJ we took a direct action by beefing up our team at the highest level so you brought on former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo brought on Rick Ruddell for acting director of national intelligence and ambassador Jeremy we were able to bring both of them on because we were in a financial position to do so since were there. They are part of RT, they are not just guest on our radio broadcast and I was would encourage people to think past just the hour they see us today on on-air or watch us or listen to us. They're not just about a guest of the broadcast year we we are working with the behind-the-scenes were utilizing their expertise, their contacts, their knowledge and filings in FOIA filings. For instance, we will have them review to make sure.using words, it would old using the right language taking it to the next level if you will, at the ACLJ we were able to do that because even with covert, even with the uncertainty were surrounded the last election people support our work they do.

It was important to continue to support our work financially.

So I think all you did because were able to make those moves so this broadcast they really dive into all the foreign-policy work that the ACLJ our international affiliates.

Art is directly engaged in how we take it to a next level and so your your financial support allows us to not just I get it is such an abbreviated Rick and Mike Pompeo. Again, I would let you know they are not just contributors to a radio broadcast.

The it's a senior counsel position and as supervisor position about but also the work that goes into that of two through RT were allowed to eat of the more people that don't seal the broadcast who support that additional work and expertise that were able to breathe again. So I encourage if you care to support our work. ACLJ.or today could double the impact your donation of a matching challenge and ACLJ.org and if you listing to the broadcast will be encouraged as well to support our work as you hear all all that were able to directly engage in.

This is a critical time at the ACLJ to support our work financially at this a matching challenge month and I know that you've heard me say that before. If you're a regular listener to the broadcast.

You watch the broadcast. But let let me just tell people why who are thinking about making a financial contribution to the ACLJ or and into the work that we do where that goes. What you know, obviously. To do this broadcast every day to get this out. Cost cost resources. But, of course, most resources go to fighting the battles of course using our broadcast is important that is fighting the battles in court fighting the battles in Congress is fighting the battles international courts so all all over international work that we do all over the world for religious liberty for freedom of speech, protecting your constitutional rights and again in the time we believe the ACLJ is needed now more than ever for the matching challenge month we have a group of builders is rate to match every donation comes through double the impact your donation donate online today and ACLJ.org the American Center for 14 engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those who are persecuted for their faith covering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress ACLJ without your support for that way you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 time for the ACLJ. The work we do.

Simply enter generous constitutional and religious freedoms are most important to you and your beautiful gift today online only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases conditions on the cure means to the many ways your membership in the ACLJ powering the right shin life/old holes in the art was at the current global approach you took in dealing with these persecution cases are what we did. We did this everywhere I think two things that that reminds me of it was always so important for us to be connected to groups like the ACLJ who had feet on the ground. I knew things who had nuanced understandings of the situation that sometimes we did have a government.

Sometimes we knew things that you all did note but working together collectively we can present to these nations that the demands that the American people rightly expect their leaders to do it so we did this in Pastor Brunson's case, he described it as America.

I certainly consider it. So we we use the tools that United States has and in its arsenal to successfully deliver an American home to freedom back to his family back usability practices faith that they and the good work is out there doing really proud of the work the President up and acting the moment in the White House when Andrew Brunson prayed for the present you with Eric's ACL from our office was there.

What was it like it was one of the highlights of my time in my foyer serving the administration to to know that the work that went into that my team on the ground and embassy. They would really live Rick. They were good. They did very very nice work all on building building building and then the work that that we did with the private sector that the public language that was taking place.

He talked about whether he knew who Billy Graham is not his team you write is TST and that there would be moral harm to their nation if they did let them go that that collective power I brought this man of Jesus to the Oval Office at the intake get the chance to be there when he prayed for the President was remarkable, the power social media. See the power when it shut off but also the power social media. Both times those were made publicly by the present to as a tweet to the world saying first is to be sanctions. He name the officials and they worried sanction the next day. Then he said the next day would actually be by tweet, the entire country and it said so whatever was going on.

Also, behind-the-scenes publicly.

We had a very strong stand from our present who is putting out the stand in his own words say this is how much it's worth to me in our country to see one get our American citizen home but to stand up for religious liberty.

We were always very careful to note. No tweet went out.

Note to marsh was issued no redlined dryness. We are prepared to deliver on one of the things I was his mistress, and if they were to do X and then the other team runs the alignment and they don't do X. This is this is really dangerous. We were very clear we were measured. We were thoughtful but when we said we were going to do something in the event that there was some condition wasn't met. Present up always follow through. I want people understand other watching especially her ACLJ members that all we don't have my Pompeii was Secretary of State and down from is not the President without an another administration and their the fact that these people are still being persecuted means we still have to be working on this. We have to use different at different avenues but the issue of religious persecution. Religious liberty is so central to mankind and to freedom and liberty so I want Pete because you work inside a government outside. So when the government is not your friend, so to speak.

You still have to do the work and not down. Now more than ever right is right.

This is the central thesis that the work required has to be redoubled that this administration has people inside of you who want to work in this we need to enable them to we need to encourage them. We need to prod them and when they get it right. We need to applaud them but it's the case that's going to require more private activity. I was in a week. We created these religious freedom ministerial cyber writer Italy and Sweden were not brought it outside to civil society that they working to follow through on this inside a government so we brought it out how the first big event, Natalie months ago that this work is required that need for religious freedom didn't go away with the Administration ended and so will not take even more effort, more resources, more energy to promoting this cause you even more so when you got use different avenues to get the job done. One of the issues that skied ACLJ.

Sec. Pompeo is the defense of the unborn and you made that comment that we went from the most pro-life administration in our nation's history to the most pro-abortion and extremely hostile administration. It's not just present by saying he's pro-abortion and putting in some actors that are that have come from that world. He is put in activists from the pro-abortion world from the world (especially Becerra at HHS and Health and Human Services who have taken a actual hostile view to pro-life Americans and we recently just saw a nurse in Vermont client of ours to file the civil lawsuit because she wanted to maintain a job, but utilized a new vehicle that was set up on the truck administration at HHS file a complaint if she was forced to perform an abortion procedure, even though she was on the list of people at the hospital with conscience protections. Department of justice was good at was actively engage in a legal fight about the file. File the lawsuit and Ellie pulled out and asked to describe this.

The difference between just one example of the previous ministration in the current restriction I was standing in front Americans individual rights to have that pro-life conviction these folks on abortion are radical. This isn't just this isn't just going back from where we were radically pro-life.

This is not back to the middle. This is an absolute hostility used exactly the right work.

Whether it's denying this person to exercise their own conscience rights, promoting and funding and underwriting right to try to get rid of the Hyde amendment Hyde amendment that's been law for years where he invented taxpayer money from going to bars they want to repeal the high demand. Frankly, it was largely bipartisan for all of these years and when undo that that they are now actively taking US taxpayer dollars abroad and using them to support groups who are promoting abortion all over the world. This this we were talking about was happening in the Chinese communist party right where there forcing women to have abortions, we have a ministration that is actively promoting the destruction of human life in a way that is so antithetical to. I think what most Americans. Common sense would tell them this is this is dangerous. It is a radical shift.

That's why the work that has to be done by groups like the ACLJ today is so important.

We have to protect every unborn life in a Jordan mentioned to Sarah the HHS editor so we took him to the Supreme Court about a year and 1/2 ago. I remember that he was fighting. This is also absurd.

It wasn't on Roe versus Wade.

It was it was he had mandated as Atty. Gen. that morning's that statements be placed inside pro-life crisis pregnancy center women centers saying we don't give abortions here's the place to get your abortion.

We don't give abortions called compelled speech which is Supreme Court for hundred 50 years as a you can't do that so we take him to the Supreme Court of the United States we win and his reward for taking that position as is the HHS Sec. of it is a viable at the remarkable warning we have a dangerous HHS Sec. usually posting. We do see the importance of the judiciary as it relates to life issue which means the consequence of an election for President is the appointment of supreme court justices and that fundamentally is one of the lasting legacies of any President. And I pray that the three. The present from God. We were very blessed to get three nominee President.

Note that I pray that those three come to an deliver on the constitutional commitment that they made during the confirmations. If you listen to than they were all deeply respectful the Constitution. If one respects our Constitution. Then Roe can't stand it wrote you know even their liberal scholars have said Rose underpinning for constitutionally suspect that that the horribly decided case with a whole and that the Constitution are wholly apart from that the life issue that is surrounded. I hope that the without the be thoughtful.

I hope that they will deeply consider that we been living under this now for decades. It's wrongly decided they should go fix it. Just as in the great historic cases have been fixed before and then return this this what role does return states the power to; inside what they wanted to.

This would be a huge step forward for both the constitutional jurisprudence and for the protection of the unborn. It also would reduce the number of abortions because abortions are more being significant, we reduced in the last several years, the trend line is been that way little fact that Harry Blackmun and the writing of of reverse when argued enough abortion case up that I've studied by Justice Blackmun and Harry Blackmun spent the summer preparing for his opinion knowing the case was away on the docket. He worried. I think you actually remained in the fall, he went up to the Mayo Clinic to the medical library and that's a dangerous move when a justice of the Supreme Court structuring the medical literature. The peer review journals and he came to this in a three trimester approach to it which has no constitutional underpinning but again, as we said the lasting legacy of the President is the Supreme Court justices. It doesn't predict how they would vote in a particular case, we never ask. I've been involved in the in as a lawyer advising Presidents on Supreme Court justices, including these supreme court justice but the fact of the matter is this.

We never ask how they would rule in Roe versus Wade. The Democrats always asked how the not hypocrisy crazy into things that you maybe think of the J if he went to the medical literature today no one disputes that these are life's right that the science, our knowledge has greenhouse imaging imaging in 45.

50 years is just a note. No one to go to the Mayo Clinic today not walk away saying that these are lives that deserve to be brought from the womb alive in a second thought. Your point about how we approach the court we approach the court from an understanding of our American history and our founding. If these justices will simply return to that our constitutional documents, what role will vanish, and these these babies will be born this a matching challenge month and I know you've heard me say that before. If you're a regular listen to the broadcast. You watch the broadcast.

But let me just tell people why you are thinking about making a financial contribution to the ACLJ or and into the work that we do where that goes course, most resources go to fighting the battles of course using our broadcast is important that is fighting the battles in court fighting the battles in Congress is fighting the battles international courts so audit all over international work that we do all over the world for religious liberty for freedom of speech and again at the time. We believe the ACLJ is needed now more than ever to the matching challenge month we have a group of daughters is rate to match every donation comes through double the impact your donation donate online today and ACLJ.org only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is certainly in return. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant right to life. We created three powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all sealed cases. Roe V Wade monetary means to the many ways your membership abuse you powering the right shin life/the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom to those who are persecuted for their faith covering correction in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life court seat in Congress. ACLJ without your support for that way you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 time for the ACLJ. The work we do. Simply enter generous constitutional and religious freedoms are most important to you and your beautiful gift today online last issuing of the life issue is we know that there couple of cases left is watching very closely watching them to see this be the way we make the move to get rid of the filibuster and put in place back to court and a lot of lot of we did do a lot of education on this because people think will that's really gotta take a constitutional limit. That's it doesn't it's it's an act of Congress. We've divided Congress right now right on that line up but they are looking at these cases I read to me though that that that that is as an excuse as excuse is a way to say I don't even know if the care with the outcome so much as a reason to even have this discussion but it's a real discussion happening right now II Jekyll.

I remember every linear time so I should bust almost every day.

The trouble administration is tearing down American institutions have no respect for the Constitution no respect for our history and our tradition.

These folks come in one at a state destroy the filibuster pack will act accordingly and the list is endless of institution destruction that's being put under the guise of the left door because Because Calvin did whatever the storyline of the day may believe these folks it that aren't respecting our tradition.

You're right about the courts that are so powerful, so important in elections matter because is interpretable to put a whole bunch of judges on district courts and appellate judges across America to this will have a profound impact on our Jefferson City funding of the judiciary was to be the weakest branch of the workout that I might neatly do.

It's interesting about the court for just a moment is that in a lot of the courses were an unusual two years of argument, I did three of them on the phone and answered it because of the pandemic and when I look at the court now compare where was even five, six years ago. It's a very different court. You got your ministration got three Supreme Court justice. Countless Courts of Appeals and different cultures and all is matter most cases don't go to the Supreme Court, but let me get sassy this. What would what we can viewer the present United States and eight interviewing Supreme Court just potential nominee.

What is what is the key. Think international particular case. Will you be asking want to make sure that they shared my understanding of our Constitution and the court's role in interpreting the Constitution and Franklin understanding of the things Congress is permitted to do and not do as well. We've allowed so much of the administrative state to rise up because we've deferred somehow to this idea that we can have elected officials engage in activity that impacts our privacy and freedom and liberty all across United States of America is diminished. Our our country so a deep understanding of the Constitution enough intellect to make sure that they can smell out a funny story when they get one presented by very talented lawyer who share to come before them and then the last thing would be courage. Courage to break this is Annette that this is not court the should be deciding based on what the net with the people United States are thinking at any given moment with Washington Post underwriting process right here what the rally on the steps of the courthouse as right. Those are small but loud voices. They need to go back to the original understanding if we get that piece right. These deficits will serve us well secretary pump that you let stay State Department. You understand running massive bureaucracies where it it's not always at the Butte bureaucrats working there have the same idea and sometimes they're even working against the, the positions of the administration. They are supposed to be serving. We certainly have's sought that under the trumpeters would seem like people trying to undermine constantly but that was always a Washington problem, but it seemed like it was just exploded under the trumpet mission is the idea that bureaucrats like they could be leaking to the press classified information just to undermine and I know that's not most probably people working there. There were certainly enough and they're still there today while politician week. Coming out elected officials come ago they said they were made in Washington and they feel like they run it even though that they are not the chosen people to run these so what was that like that, just that play coming in knowing that there's a lot of these people were pretty hostile to the policies you want to put in place yeah it was tough there. No doubt about it. Your point will take and are good people working at the State Department you're trying to execute the presence mission, but there were an awful lot who were resistance to most everything we were trying to do think it was especially true of the trumpet ministration will break and a lot of glass. We talked about that Middle East.

We talked about a policy in North Korea little bit, but we were taking positions that were at odds with a 4050 year Washington DC foreign policy establishment. And if there's any place in the world. That is the DC establishment State Department and so it was that there is enormous resistance and so they tried to undermine and in so many different ways. My my mission set every day which is to make sure that I understood the President's command and intent clearly and then to make the machine go perform that function. So we tried to get everyone on that page. That's our responsibility for the President was elected he was the duly elected President that are responsible is to execute the foreign policy that he lays out. I tried to remind everyone that we are just we are there for a moment in time that this is our price and we are to do with the people have asked our leadership today is if there is a real challenge. In talking about foreign affairs and we often, these governments having the second targeted decision volumes written on the deep state, the state that runs the underlying bureaucrats that run turkey that you may have an agency saying one thing but here's what's really happening, but we can have a little bit of the deep state situations and agencies, United States, conspiracies I'm talking about reality you call it whatever you want document for for instance. So we follow freedom of information act request on the Obama White House.

The issue was the negotiations with Iran relating to the nuclear program and the fact that they had initially had a video up that the edit was so obvious what they took out that all of our team here said that that wasn't a glitch that was a white flash edit on purpose so I know because we have really smart people, intermediate teams, so we sent out a which obeys the intelligence of our video teams and sent out a request to the State Department had to court how to fight him.

We one we get an email that shows what happened. But you knew it happen was for somebody intensely ended this piece out, which will disclose the whole what was really going on, but they also we found an email that said that they were trying to quote this is from Jen Saki was now the White House spread spokesperson shut down and battening down the hatches on any public discussions of negotiations now while you have individual negotiations. I understand those can be public, but they were parroting one story to the public that we got a more moderate President coming in and that's why we started this, when in fact they started the negotiation with the previous President so issues that the ACLJ engages in like freedom of information act litigation important is that yeah it's really important and to get the machine to respond to these things you said how long does it take you by eye, I saw this time and time again I wasn't I was in charge of State Bar and to get the State Department to respond to things right with the team beneath it. So yes, there were working on and then weeks will go by and say just had to continue to hammer this this idea that we have bureaucrats operating in ways that are disconnected not by the way full full transference. I want the state wanted to do what Pres. Biden wants them to do. This is the mission. It's not to execute my mission. It might Presidents measure exactly but it's Republican ministration to suffer this, because the people who will be career people will stay there TEND to be left of center tend to have come there and they have taken over these machines in ways that really undermine what the American people deserve folks to commit in your time here because this is a really critical month ACLJ.

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