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February 15, 2022 12:00 pm

We reported yesterday on the developments in Special Counsel John Durham's investigation. Durham's latest filing alleges a concerted spying campaign both on candidate Trump as well as President Trump after he took office. Now, there's a clear whitewashing effort by CNN and other mainstream media outlets in their reporting on the allegations. Jay, Jordan, and the rest of the Sekulow team discuss the latest developments on this massive scandal. This and more today on Sekulow .

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Today on secular CNN covers Clinton spying on truck giving you informed and now this is what I hear from you, call 1-800-684-3113 reported yesterday just basic to get out there as a reminder, there is a allegation in pleading filed by special counsel. Durham and the matter he is looking at with the Clinton campaign involvement with the this idea that the Trump campaign was somehow tied to Russia and all those debug theories and in that pleading was an allegation that they see the Clinton campaign through their law firm was represented campaign.

The attorney that was serving as a general outside counsel paid in Internet company to infiltrate Trump servers both at the Trump tower building at a Trump apartment building on Central Park West New York as well as the executive office.

The present they took that information twice to the FBI and CIA.

Now we know the CIA was the other government agency with yesterday we were that was not clear. Now it is. Once it was that the first time. It was a couple months before the election. The second time it was a month after the President had taken prison trumpet taken the oath of office. That attorney has been indicted. He's in some trouble, but now we've got the pushback pushback from the left that he couldn't do it took them about let's see, four days Friday to figure out what to Monday evening to figure out how to respond to this pleading and I want to go to one part right away was in Brian Stelter's daily email that this is coming from, you know, does the disaster that is CNN right now but he says quote. The accusation was couched in vague and technical language in a court filing this sandbag to folks tech executive one test researchers to mine Internet data to establish an inference in narrative tying then candidate Trump to Russia. I think all of you understood what I just said about this is this big Brian did it at the CNN staff tech executive one and his associates exploited this arrangement by mining the executive office of the presence DNS traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump. You don't have to be a tax expert.

A text get a tech expert to understand that what the Clinton campaign was doing was hacking into servers right to mine data to get derogatory info on Donald Trump.

What is so hard to understand about that CNN did say that you're not smart enough to read that that's how they reported to the readers. This is too heavy for you you I thought this was to be that a network that will enable a positive could read this. The defendant further claimed that these lookups demonstrated that Trump and his associates were using's supposedly rare Russian-made wireless bones in the vicinity of the White House and other locations. The special counsel's office as identified no support for these allegations. What's complicated about that on this is that what's so ironic here is that they act they had us take three days Harry to figure out how to spend this. I think that's true, but I think that's a reflection of the level of both the analogy and incompetence at CNN and within the mainstream media. By and large they are so politicized that they flee the truth faithfully reality and they really at the end of the day.

Don't know what to do about it.

New York Times, because the narrative wrong or old news latest example of the challenge created by barrage of similar spears for Mr. trumpet his eyes. This is in a finding by the DOJ and the special counsel has been allowed to operate the writers establish that he gets to finish out his job. He gets to the job and so is now they believe Durham is part of a conspiracy Etruscans were Trump spirit. He we had to think about the report until after the election year. I have no afterlife again folks only take your calls or to share with your friends and family talk to us on the year one 800 684 31 to leave the lot because yesterday's date question at one 800-6843 one. The challenges facing Americans or substantial time in our value freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack is more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ is on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights" in Congress. In the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms event remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. Well, this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you personally. Publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists ramifications. 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the abortion industry and what Obama care means to the prone life in many ways your membership is empowering the right to life question free copy mission in life today online/secular, so finding which we spent an hour going through yesterday on the broadcast in the pleadings so that we would explain it to you think that these media outlets. They got big teams like we do to go through it to ends and they could then explain to their viewers what was what was alleged by the special counsel Durham, which is the Department of Justice enough, this is Bob Muller alleging if it would've been any allegation would've been treated this fact immediately but listen to how Joe Scarborough, I believe, I guess they're just admitting they lost their heads is lost. They lost their minds really is the enemy that actually more literal sense because oh think this can understand what a DNS server was take a listen by eight because it is so confounding and so hard to follow, which is which is kind of mention John Heilman V this this pleading, which is indecipherable unless you have an agenda and you you want want to shoot first and ask questions later was what they can legally. This is confusing as the initial story of the initial story came out. I read through and as I was on everybody and that's why nobody paid attention to it. The percentage was so convoluted talking about DNS that's out. Just wait. As these indictments. On the other people people are all the ones that they like having on his guests are in trouble now. I know this form of that yet. Andy so the government's motion to inquire into potential conflict of interest was the pleading that that's a complicated, that is, does this lawyer also represent other witnesses that may be witness or subject or target so maybe they can't continue that representation and then they allege what took place here.

The governance evidence at trial established that, among the Internet data tech executive one in his associates exploited was a domain name system.

That's a DNS but Joe Scarborough seems to not understand what that is Internet traffic pertaining to any particular healthcare provider to Trump tower three Donald Trump Central Park West apartment building and off for the executive office of the President of the United States and then it says, and a big boat tech executive one, and the Internet company, to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement whereby it provided DNS resolution service to the executive office of the President's and this is what it says and this is not so hard to explain. Joe Scarborough tech executive one in his associates exploited this arrangement by mining the EOP's DNS traffic and other data for the purpose of gathering derogatory information about Donald Trump, Andy. What's hard to explain their nothing, absolutely nothing.

The New York Times describes the pleading as quote dense and obscure. I don't see anything denser obscure about it. This is not like reading some stream of consciousness novel by James Joyce where you have to figure out what in the world is he trying to say this is a clear six thing well drafted pleading by a career prosecutor and his staff who knows that if there is a possibility of a conflict of interest representing a defendant that they have to bring back to the courts attention and in so doing, they laid out very clearly and very succinctly the factual background that was necessary in order to inform the court of the possibility of a conflict of interest. I read it one time and understood perfectly what they said and I have drafted literally thousands of these pleadings in 37 years of practicing law, and this was a piece of very crystal clear pleading J Joe Scarborough said he spent time he supposedly read all this right to get its pages. Now I can read a book yesterday. I bite nine I sent yesterday reading through this stuff. Reading through terms indictments seriously don't know her hours, who wrote that because it was gobbledygook, there were dates. The dates are right there. September 9, 2016, two months before the 2016 US Presidential election. The defendant, a lawyer large international law firm, this is Sussman. He went to the FBI. He went to the CIA see that you marketed too much for election and they say he went back again this is on the dates are there in February 2017 so there's dates. The dates that he went in is also dates on when the mining occurred the 2014 through 2016.

There's also allegations here in the pleadings. Your call that don't take tech knowledge like why would Joe Scarborough at least maybe they were seized on the fact that quote the defendant further claimed that these lookups demonstrated the Trump or his associates were using rare Russian-made wireless phones in the vicinity of the White House and other locations that doesn't take any technology you have to do what a domain name server is are these paintings you would just know that he was using this rare Russian phone and that nobody noticed that which by the way is been all debunked. Like all the other theories trying to attach Donald Trump in his campaign to Russia so which they don't admit. By the way on none of those interviews to the stated Donald Trump was exonerated from any of these allegations know and I think it's interesting to point out other than been on this, but we did a deep dive ourselves to God, Joe Scarborough, I mean because I was they were involved in this is the present source so we looked at this, we looked at our files and and he is as I said, we determined that we were not asked any questions about Alpha bank.

There was this is a bent sister brought with went through.

He said be noteworthy that, according to the Inspector General in the IG's report on pages 119, footnote 259. This was not so hard while the FBI included in crossfire hurricane, the Alpha bank allegations and that's the Russian bank that was closely involved that Sussman initially told the FBI about his discussing dermal motion and while the committee i.e. or e.g. Adam shift pursued it. It was a topic and deduct their document request Muller drop it at some point as it was not one of the topics in his final written question list to us and it was, not substantively addressed in his final report of any first. It was not there that day and I want to get a reaction from you know Jay, it was, not. We sat with our client and went over the questions meticulously for hours upon hours and by that I mean the questions that Muller submitted and we went over each of those and not one of those had anything to do with the fact that Sussman was selling information, and I use that word broadly on behalf of the Clinton campaign and lied about who his client was Muller never brought that out to never asked us about it is not in my recollection and I am positive that that subject was never discussed whatsoever files and she patted of course man and try to make a business big yesterday.

He had that remember you said I have a quick and refined that bike. We had special information that shows conclusively that there was rusty collusion was easy to have special information. If you just make it up as you go jamming.

You can have special information all you want.

If that your strategy look. Unlike Andy, I have never drafted one of these motions J but like Andy I read it this morning and had no problem understanding what is in it and you ask about a reaction from Washington DC. They understand this to Jake. They just don't like what's in it and I will predict for you. Adam shift in others. Here's the strategy they're gonna take because they wanted this to distract from the narrative here there gonna start attacking John Durham you watch J that's gonna happen today. They are going to attack start attacking John during because they don't want to talk about the substances in this motion we got, with time for the call. Robert will await the next weekly Celexa because I would say this, I express the same failure see a lot of you like to chat supply your comments that if John Durham was this Trump Lance to take down all of these official but so far the highest level officials. The General Counsel to the Clinton campaign whether the more coming in all their friend commentators on CNN and MSNBC. I would hope so. If the if the information is there. I told them accountable but become on folks if he was a trial if used with political purposes. This would've all been out for the last Presidential election you you to just put this out because you could put it out of kind of pleading you had. You have to go to court yet but instead it's been this methodical, probably very difficult investigation because he is working within a department of justice now run by Mayor Gartland and Joe Biden trying to stay independent trying to just keep the resources he has and trying to get which we know is the most difficult cabal to break through is the clickable. They are mean people die around them.

People commit suicide around them. They they they have a track record of just scary scary actually what people are be willing to do or they are willing to do to keep power or to keep their names out of legal jeopardy. So again will be up to the Sussman types and and people later on high ranking means a lawyer for the car they going to protect the other down to protect the Clintons, but the this is Charlie Savage from the New York Times, but the entire never narrative appeared to be mostly wrong or old news. The latest example of the challenge greeted by a barrage of similar conspiracy theories for Mr. Trump and his allies there ignoring the pleadings here, the pleadings and the commentary are exactly right. This is an art understand he went in with false information. He told the FBI to have a client and he did say when it said the same thing. The CID sold in the selection phone nonsense which says investigation shows that none of that was true. New York Times goes further to say.

Upon close inspection. These narratives are often based on misleading presentation of the facts or outright misinformation and talked about yeah this dismount department of homeland security. So now John Durham is committing tears in the words of New York Times because he is spreading misinformation about US government what he released her audience. Here's a yell run 800-684-3110 to talk to us on the air. 1-800-684-3110. I share your concern. I wish this was out much sooner. Let's follow the facts where they go right back only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice as is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally support publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the worship ministry and what Obama care means to the pro-life discover the many ways your membership is empowering the right to question your free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/challenges facing Americans for substantial time and or value freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades ACLJ has been on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress.

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Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ God where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ secular figure phone calls as well on this ESA. We are really getting into everything. Unlike Joe Scarborough we're explaining it to you. We were to say I this distorted side attacking Republicans now attacking John determine if the fan is absolutely right that is what you'll see is it is a total attack on special counsel. Durham, which by the way, you know they love Bob Muller until he came up with nothing and they attacked him to yet all they still attacking Andrew Andrew Reisman wants to write it is alternative. Muller normal report because he said it was what what Muller allowed to be produced was inaccurate. I want to go to Harry on this and will get a Roberts phone: taking your calls at 800-684-3110 so if you want to give us a call 800-684-3110 but you know they start arguing in the media. Harry, this is confusing it's gobbledygook there's nothing here.

These are all conspiracy theories. What they're really doing is hiding the reality that things are about to get intense.

I think that is correct their team and I would say first that.Dr. economy and the director at Van Bennett are absolutely correct in their analysis and if we focus initially on show Scarborough of MSNBC, we should conclude, I think fairly that he is either lying or he is a simpleton in claiming that he cannot decipher a DNS server and the basic facts of a an indictment which I think even a layperson can read. So since my favorite toddler is unavailable. I think it's important to explain that Joe Scarborough fails to understand that what we are dealing with his spine and it's also called a conspiracy and I think it's plain as day that it implicates individuals were connected to the Hillary Clinton campaign. It's that simple. Joe it's a big deal to have your General Counsel indicted alone in CIA and he's indicted over tried to build the truck Russia conspiracy that is fact.

That's not an allegation of pleading.

He's been indicted for for falsely claiming that he wasn't doing up on behalf of the Clinton campaign.

What was that there was doing trying to build a narrative and inference of derogatory information about Donald Trump and did he stop after the election. No, he went back just observe services or dates February 2017. He goes back that's a month after the President takes the oath of office and he says I got more data from executive officer present, but he also manipulated that data. It says in the pleadings to make it look like there were more pigs at a Trump tower in the world would be normal except for the excluded the millions that were coming out of the White House under the Obama administration so that to show that all that was not hard to figure out the minimus as we would say the these pigs. I guess words like the minimus too much for Joe Scarborough. I me. I know it's not the fact is this is the game yesterday to try to tell their audience the reason why wrestling Thomas. It's gobbledygook confusing. It was interesting, but they had to spend time I did have to address it because their friend Hillary Clinton is in legal jeopardy. In her cold team is a legal jeopardy, and that includes people who work for the White House right now. Let's go to Robert and Marilyn online one hey Robert, secular young, there hello Jordan hi JK wanted to ask about both of you are never the revolution.CNN that the actually the Hillary Clinton assault campaign spied on Donald Trump's campaign as well as her being politically involved consultant campaign to end up getting the Russia coaxed the Russia collusion Oaks what type of consequences if you're going to face as a result of these revelations as a result of John Durham's investigation go where the average bequest number does ignore the evidence is ending and is in a bit. There's been no allegation. Hillary Clinton was directed this yet media has made that allegation these pleadings to be clear that it was her lawyer that has been indicted here so that something put in a situation like this and you've done these in identity was a government where you follow the evidence and its painstaking because this this is gotta get the evidence and get witnesses make they have indicted her lawyer for making statements to the FBI and CIA that were not accurate. Now they've also said that these allegations were not true and you know what they really reacting to the media is really reacting to and that is that they said these allegations are not true. That is what his lawyer, Sussman's lawyer said they should even said that that was it necessary that was prejudicial so they don't like that aspect.

Andy well no of course not, because it doesn't fit the narrative of protecting the Clinton machine and the Clinton cabal is Jordan. I described it accurately.

Look, the Clintons are untouchable in the liberal democratic wing of their party and the liberal democratic world.

You protect them.

You do everything you can put an iron shield around them.

Anybody who attacks them is going to be.

Similarly, attackers seem to be attacked by statements, such as the New York Times says dense and obscure pleadings, or court filing that is vague and technical anything that you do against the Clintons is going to be attacked because they are a protected species. I don't know whether she knew what Sussman was saying. I don't know what the weather will information she was imparted to her by her lawyer before he went over to the FBI and the CIA. I have no idea, but I am confident that this John Durham has been doing a fantastic job not exposing his investigation to the public, not leaking things doing it methodically and doing it carefully and painstakingly is going to get to the bottom of what did Hillary Clinton no. And when did Hillary Clinton knowledge. She tweeted about October 7 is for the election.

So we know and and also Jake Sullivan followed up with the tweets alleging this tie between Donald Trump of the service.

You should talk to the computer scientist or tweet.

We put the tweet up on the screen. I may regret it.

It's his computer scientists have uncovered this link between this and Hillary Clinton the last day of October, the election was on the seventh of 8 November that year so a week before she's at least pushing out the info now get you not in control of her Twitter caddie that's A set but at some point there were discussions in the campaign at the level of the candidate and Hercules present campaigns. That's how work at some point he gets to the top the candidate and the top advisers and were traveling with them all the time who say you know what were seven days out pulls a start to look a little bit question Fresno people started turning against Hillary Clinton just right around then let's throw any dirt we've got these to be thrown out.

That may have been how she seen it. I don't know.

She thought about it anymore than that and really don't know but but you can you know the folks who should have known were people like the General Counsel of the FBI who should was said this is junk or whoever got at the CA we don't yet know who with the CIA not yet Sussman went to, but let me say there's a people that should have been able to see this here about this.

However, he presented and said this is this is just junk with the CIA know if the present United States was using a Russian-made rare phone you think me or else the city wasn't with the whole thing is bogus.

But remember what they created was this was all about the same as the dossier they also were paid was somehow to get investigation to take down Donald Trump.

It wasn't to take down Republican presidency that would've been the case was vindictively focused at Donald Trump and I will tell you, folks. Just there, living it, they knew that it would put a burden on his present time burden that you have to deal with an unbelievable amount of stress. All these investigators know the government feeling like the government you're supposed to try and run is coming at you in full force with stuff like using rare Russian phone and the media is actually going along with that.

Be right back.

Second America not recognized for decades. ACLJ is been on the frontlines of protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member thanking God's well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ keeping you informed and now, this is Jordan secular to 164, 31 to this as second of the broad put up on the screen for people and I will will read it. For those who listen to the broadcast year. The broadcaster for the family for watching out this is Hillary Clinton. This is a week before the election in 2016, computer scientist is pretty specific for Presidential candidate to be tweeting have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump organization to a Russian-based bank and underneath the tweet is a statement from Jake Sullivan current national security advisor to Pres. Biden. You see them out a lot last couple weeks on Ukraine and Russia and he is saying this could be the most releases quote this could be the most directly get between Donald Trump in Moscow computer sciences apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump organization to Russian-based bank, so she is.

He has direct knowledge of what Sussman was doing this tweet implicates Jake Sullivan and Hillary Clinton because it gives it means it wasn't like there campaign lawyers out there trying to do things to help the campaign and and take down Donald Trump that they may or may not have known about.

Generally, this is very specific so so to me what it says are you worried about Jake Sullivan right now yeah I think so because they knew about this. They promoted it they know that their lawyer, Harry went to the FBI an hour. Looks like the CIA to promote this theory, it got enough traction that they got these meetings. They lied about who they represented which created the indictment and there's probably more coming on this I would suspect Jake Sullivan and Hillary Clinton both bought into this. I think that's precisely correct and I would say this that we live in an age of particularities we live in an age of obstructions where truth and reality are rarely on the nation stage. Unfortunately, we live with what can now be called the unbearable lightness. Biden or the President of the United States. Neither tells the truth and nothing but the truth, nor does his office offer gravitas. This can be seen in the Biden administration's director in direct involvement in the Hillary Clinton a spy scandal that commenced during the Obama Biden administration and continued during the Trump administration and the apparent cover-up now continues during the Biden restoration and it may implicate national security advisor Jake Sullivan is also important to keep in mind that Biden's press secretary continues to dance and dodge around direct questions with respect to this particular issue, which implicates directly or indirectly. Jake Sullivan, who continues to appear before the American people and claimed that he is telling the truth and our team. I doubt it.

Yeah. And our team looked at the committee Adam ship in particular who said he had the specific abstinence. Take a listen to the super cut so there is clear evidence on the issue of collusion and this adds that body of evidence, there is ample evidence of collusion in plain sight. And that is true. Have Democrats found any evidence of collusion. Yes we have. You can see evidence in plain sight on the issue of collusion pretty compelling evidence and there is significant evidence of collusion.

There is ample evidence in the day. There is of collusion of people in the Trump campaign with the Russians think there's plenty of evidence of collusion or conspiracy. All of this is evidence of collusion.

There is significant evidence of collusion between the campaign and Russia so that's interesting because mother says is no collusion and then John Durham says we have no evidence backing up these allegations. So any quickly.

That tells me a lot really at 40 seconds and tells me that John Durham knows what is going because it is an impartial good investigator that he is investigated this with thoroughness and entirety, and I suspect he is correct right folks, we come back recruit now be joining us. Your calls as well. 1-800-684-3110 really get into this out with Rick as well as some this Ukraine Russia just to update you on that following that route for special back of the placing what's happening when you were talking about you know it invasion tomorrow I can share this with your friends and family support the work of the ACLJ and ACL a.the challenges facing Americans or substantial time in our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ on the frontlines projecting your freedoms defending your rights and courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. But here's the bottom line we could not do our work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms and then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member thanking God's well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about our life-changing, member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally support the publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the worship ministry and what Obama care means to the pro-life in many ways your membership is powering the right to question a free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/we are doing five ACLJ Senior advisor, financial security for policy reform acting director recruit now Rick you seen all of the reports of processing the how the media can also command the communications world forcing the New York Times, MSNBC and CNN all claiming this is just too complicated for them and it just seems like gobbledygook and it's not that important.

It is just that leading into more conspiracy theories. We know the Hillary Clinton's outside General Counsel is been indicted for like the FBI. Now we know the CIA so they took this information about the FBI and CIA saying you know the Donald Trump of the always pings with Russian servers and that he was using a rare Russian made cell phone which I would imagine when the Clinton campaign. Attorneys went to the CIA. With that data Rick they would say. I think we can figure that out pretty quickly yell at, there's been so much misinformation from the very beginning. It's very concerning. As to what is happening in Washington. One thing that is for sure is that we gotta stop expecting the median DC to ever report on this fairly they're never going to. I mean, so the joke is on us if we keep in a screening about it and talking about it. I'm all for pointing out their hypocrisy. But at the end of the day. We should not expect them to ever change.

They don't want to tear down their precious ruling party.

They are for the Democrats and we just need to wise up and realize that what it what is that mean for us that means we gotta have other outlets that we can go to. I think that's just the reality of today's world this story to me thou the biggest scandal is that they were spying on the White House and to me there's no possible way to do that. Yes you're working with the Intel agencies, government eight.

So here you know Rick is you know, I know little bit about the whole issue of the allegations on Russia collusion with the Trump campaign because I lived.

It is one of the lead lawyers for the President for 3 1/2 years now Muller comes with a conclusion which they knew right away that there was no collusion with the Russian governmental Russian officials. Durham says that the allegations made by Hillary Clinton's lawyer to both the FBI and the CIA that there is in the places there is no evidence to support this allegation. They knew that wasn't true. And then this will be talking to you but shockingly during the 2 1/2 year investigation with Bob Muller.

He never tells me or my team anything about this and ship apparently in a went off on it so it tells me that that is not only a double standard.

You're right from putting the media side. The fact that Intel agencies were considering this and looking at this should send shivers down every body in the United States that our government was even pursuing this blog I talked to the individuals at the FBI who are middle management and they blame the upper management. So I think what has to happen is that the Republicans have to get laser focused on making sure that those responsible for this hoax are prosecuted. That includes people at DOJ and FBI that are upper management. There's no question about that.

We need to go after them and we need to prosecute them no matter how long it takes, so that that we can send the message that it never happens again. I also believe that what's unraveling now is that with DOJ and FBI.

The upper management of the CIA and the NSA clearly knew that individuals whether they were inside or outside of government were spying on the White House and the President of the United States and his team that's unacceptable. I don't care if you think that these allegations of Russian collusion were true and so you're going to say what we had to see no that is illegal is immoral. It's antidemocratic it's anti-American and those individuals need to be prosecuted. No matter if the Republicans or Democrats.

I just got a notice Jordan from the national Law Journal which is respected legal journal Michael Sussman's lawyers are accusing the special because we knew this was in happen, accusing the special counsel John Durham of inflammatory and prejudicial rhetoric that was gonna happen now to turn this on. John Durham, Rick, as you pointed out as well. This this would to this would probably fall been involved in political campaigns during the political Patient. Clinton started putting this out about a week before election, but they double down and went back a month after Pres. Trump takes the oath of office and they went back to the FBI back to the CA because they still committed to not just that not taking back the White House.

They were to put a Democratic but to taking down Donald Trump because I think it all goes back to his pledge to drain the swamp and that's what they were scared of heat start getting rid of the swamp creatures like homey and others will. There's no question that doubts out the outside or threatened all of those insiders and look no further than this gives me the Democratic primary.

Right there a whole bunch of choices and that Democratic primary to go with people that were not Washington creatures, but the Democratic establishment after four years of Donald Trump that we can't risk this any longer. We gotta go back to the tried-and-true person that we know for 40 years is with us is with Washington DC is with the rules of Washington DC and that was Joe Biden.

The outsiders threaten the insiders and this is my whole point about the reporters who live in Washington DC the lobbyists you know they all go to church there. They all have their kids go to the same school.

Their social life is there. They root for the same sports teams. It's all Washington DC.

The joke is on us if we think they're ever going to try to tear down and make Washington DC less powerful. They love the city.

They want bigger, better, I wanted as this last question about this topic and that is this Rick you are the head of DNI and these intelligence gathering capabilities of United States are best. Would it be if there was really this allegation of the Trump campaign or Donald Trump himself, or people in the White House is a state affected the White House were using a rare Russian-made phone.

You are the DNI youth director of national intelligence when you well known that I would've known it through leaks that would've leaked before came up to that the DNI believe you me every single piece of raw intelligence that that somehow was antirepublican gets delete this is a crisis for Washington DC we've got intelligence community that needs to police themselves when you're sitting at someone sitting with your colleague and you find out that they're leaking. You need to help them because it leaking is illegal.

I don't care if you're trying to help a political party or not, but we have a serious problem in Washington DC. Why do you think all the leaks have dried up. They're not leaking against Joe Biden.

Why don't we see a transcript of the Biden that the US Ukraine call between the heads of state. Why isn't there transcripts leaking left and right from Biden's phone. He calls her,, Harris's failed calls it's not happening right we've had a problem with partisanship. As we have those leaks during the present Trump's tenure of the actual phone calls that would get leaked immediately. Answers with phrases like within a day. Now let's talk about Russia and Ukraine for moment you're gabbing so Rick got a competing new news reports on the one hand the US move the embassy to the Western Ukraine had as Toby believed that it's it's unit there. There like in attack mode, but they're not that he probably hasn't made the call to go yet we wake up this morning to reports of the Russian troops. The Russians moving troops off the border. Though the US is to say there's no signs of that went where do you think this just stands at this moment while I wish that a ride the intelligence, the DNI would come out ahead of intelligence and just make clear so that we don't have to just trust what the White House is saying because what the White House is saying what Jake Solomon is saying not what the Ukrainians are saying and certainly I think we can't talk about this subject without referring to the incredible groundbreaking moment of Afghanistan and the credibility that was ruined by the United States, you know, I think that this is a pet pendulum swing date the inside the White House. They said you know we can't have another situation like Afghanistan. Let's overreact and and let's try to remove Americans from the embassy really early and tell everybody to get out and what they've done is that cause panic and they certainly have ruined the relationship. Our relationship with Ukraine right now is that the worst one of the worst and in history. It's really terrible and it's flatly because Joe Biden's overreaction to Afghanistan really quick regardless of the minute Rick, your sense to you when you're talking about leaving the White House commencing could happen today could happen tomorrow. What do you sense is actually think Putin is ready to make this move will first of all, you know, the Russians always a problem so you can ever look the other way attend like in a rush isn't rising there always on the offense, but to me what it looks like is that Russia had a goal of making sure that NATO was not united and that they got the message of no more NATO members and I think the Russians have one that argument.

That certainly has been front and center me think about this, and because pursuit they could keep the order for months just to make the world valid rush you know all please don't please don't please don't just continue on.

Again, it destroys economy destroys Ukraine in the relationship there and it provides NATO stock. We get backwards to 1-800-684-3110 is 1-800-684-3110 flows you holding up right to come back only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

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We don't know what statue limitations are realistic is a really sure. The prosecutor always has to have his or her eye on the fact that you need to bring the any case that you have before the grand jury before the applicable statute of limitations, which in federal court is generally five years from the commissioning offense and those are the kinds of things that I know Durham and his team are very cognizant of and very careful of saying so that statutes of limitations do play a significant role in how quickly the prosecutors act John in Minnesota online to John Walker secular your mere you guys are protecting our call to thank you for that question I have, it seems like people were accusing Durham of doing nothing there. I think even Trump put out one part about that day will what you doing is he doing anything, but it seems to me that we might be in the process of civilian American hero arise. You guys know anything about Jeremiah. What you think respect to these well-known prosecutors, the career prosecutor. He served both administration.

So I think his integrity is there what you can uncover this event painstakingly slow not to say it's not is very very slow but sometimes the wheels of justice grind slowly, having I will say I believe this information was relevant. People with when they cast their vote.

If they had this information that would've been a crime almost American people not to put it out there before people were deciding who to elect to reelect because you know by putting in Biden is record I was just talking about your putting in that same Clinton team exact same Obama team and so all the people around it so that you get right or just getting promoted to the next job. But if Susan Rice is still called the domestic policy shots in the White House right so I agree on this. I think if they now I will say this. On the flipside, Joe Biden could shut this down any moment they could. They have that rights are Atty. Gen. to shut down your bike.

Should that he pledged to allow it to see its course. But we don't know is how difficult it is for them to get resources how much the lack of support that may be inside the current DOJ for anything they're trying to do since going after their own difference, so that to me is a big issue here and that is who are the likely target of the investigation.

So what is heat, what's the headwind that John Durham spacing in trying to get this when you may have.

The apparatus of the Department of Justice saying Harry we don't want to go there. I think that is clearly an issue and I think John Durham likely has a high profile target or two in view and the question becomes will the DOJ allow him to go after those particular individuals number two.

I would suggest that this vast conspiracy involving the Clinton campaign. The FBI attacked company and the CIA possible.

That would've been relevant information in 2020.

And thirdly, I would point out that now.

Even 66% of Democrats basically want a strong investigation of Hillary Clinton and her top campaign advisors for their alleged role in Russia.

Great. So despite the mainstream media protecting the Clinton campaign number Democrats.

The information is indeed getting out there and I think a lot of American people are very very concerned and that's certainly an issue if and when Hillary Clinton decides to challenge Joe Biden for the 2024 nomination for President this talk of vanishing time because her names back because she put her name back in the mix. Her apparatus is put their name back in the mix. And while Joe Biden's got a lot of their people.

I'd say a lot of these people be more loyal to her and him and if they do choose if they really could choose and then this comes out which kind of further tarnishes and reminds American people why they didn't like illegal and the first time there there involved in too many dirty deeds. Too many bad actions in the government you don't into Washington like like like request items go back to the phones Janet in California online five hey Janet like like a minute ago like that by the Atty. Gen.

I know getting down now to keep the truth from being known like? Can it can they do that at this point.

Yeah, I like to know if they do then what happens to the indictments that have already been harmed and down they set it down just city technically cannot process them Medicaid they could not bite is made a statement that is good. Let it go to conclusion. I think the political risk for Democrats in filling this down would be very very high. To be clear, the special counsel report to the Atty. Gen. and his budget is approved by the Atty. Gen. and if the Department of Justice or the President decided that this is gone far enough. Wrap it up and we don't want to move full with these stop prosecuting these indictments. You can't make him do it know you can. They Department of Justice can if Durham is ever terminated from his position can simply dismiss the indictments with prejudice and site were not interested in pursuing this matter and they can do that just as anybody can be found can be fired or any prosecutor US attorney has a right to dismiss an indictment, as a matter of course, the phones are final.

Call the day Warren in Idaho online one. He warned all my question is with high-tech companies that infiltrated how deep did they go and who else have the access that they were allowed under that do for Ned WikiLeaks is going on.

There were acts of certain government servers, including at the White House of the date contracted with a government contractor start figuring out okay who was what was what was rushing things inside the steel bonnet ministration talk about something they decided to do that that I don't think is a bad action standing alone. Okay, so they needed these specialists, researchers, tech people to go and figure out what's going on because I don't care for the Obama or your Trump or your Biden. We don't want the Russians and in the servers okay that tech company decided to sell her access to this information to the Clinton campaign. So while there conducting that work. They say we can get in there. Now here's what we don't know yet that did not greenlight them into Trump Tower. Note that did not greenlight them into Trump's building on Central Park West Department of that to me is a huge question that remains, which is how on earth could this attorney for Clinton is now been indicted, gone to the FBI and the CIA to their Turner attorneys and said I've got data on Donald Trump Trump tower I got data on Central Park West from building plus I got executive officer present data. Each one of those should have raised a red flag. One. How did you get the EOP data. They figured out your pay your company that were paying so that you can get nefarious access to. That's bad strike on their strike to Trump Tower private building.

Strike three Central Park West.

The Trump building private building. This to me is again whenever you see spying that way you see in movies the way that Watergate was over the break. This is that this is 2022. This is how spying is done tech but the attack on us attack under just getting careful.

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