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BREAKING: Biden Asks for Contingency Plans on Afghanistan

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August 25, 2021 1:00 pm

BREAKING: Biden Asks for Contingency Plans on Afghanistan

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August 25, 2021 1:00 pm

The Biden Administration has asked the State Department and the Pentagon for contingency plans on the withdrawal efforts from Afghanistan. Jay, Jordan, and the rest of the Sekulow team discuss the latest statements coming out of the White House as well as the ongoing situation on the ground in Afghanistan. This and more today on Sekulow .

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Sankyo is present by State Department Department of Defense for contingency plans on Afghanistan and withdrawal date keeping you informed and now is in addition about the Pentagon and the State Department for contingency plans were just the time to should that become necessary. Undetermined to ensure that we complete our mission. This mission I'm also mindful of the increasing risks that I've been I've been briefed on and the need to factor those written those risks and their real and significant challenges that weights also to take in consideration what I hear from you.

Sharon posted a comment or call 1-800-684-3110 doing security at the airport in a city that they are now that the titular heads of the government.

There is 164 32 Facebook periscope you to get those comments as well. Of course present by his speech yesterday addressing the nation what to get on Afghanistan. In this meeting he brought up the idea of that. One of the August 31 deadline where he really focused it on, which is interesting way to oppose it, which is were so worried about potential terror attacks on US forces in Afghanistan and we feel like we need to leave the questions we did that become such a threat to the United States because we been Afghanistan for two decades and in the last 56 years. You hear about the threats that that these groups like Isis K out or the Taliban itself and others were were active or inactive threat to either Afghans or the or the US troops there on any more scale than what would become average. But now he focused it on that. At the same time, though he left a big Washington DC style open door to a prolonged effort.

Now there is question how long could you prolong this effort. When you're starting to pack up so there we talked about since the beginning it's it's it's all start happening at the airport in Kabul. We focus on whether not you, what would be the potential for an Afghan part two Afghanistan part two. If a if it if something occurs which obviously that's the one line message every one of the bind officials is on the same point which is unique in the situation they haven't been, but has been the threat from terrorist groups is increasing every day and that that's an increase threat on our troops, but there is some point to make their witches, our troops are we really to situational trips can't defend themselves against the small militant groups because if we are in a matter of two weeks would utterly destroy America's reputation around the world but were we look absolutely weak. I think that's the real issue limited. There was an interesting point raised today on as American troops leave Afghanistan in the in the last days, who's been to be protecting those troops and basically elevator that sound upper mammal Kirby is basically these either were lying on the element. This is this is the absurdity of anything. The airport is allowed to remarry.

No, I said to tell men responsible for running airport that's in a city that they are now that the titular heads of the government. There is a lot to break down. There was will do in the next segment but relying on the Taliban is the real bottom line.

This is reality, which approved the White House's divorce from at midnight on August 31, we either leave Americans behind in Afghanistan or we confront the Taliban and something we should be doing now.

That's the problem what yeah where why we not confronting the telemedicine tire lead up to this so that they were weak while we were doing this drawdown instead of them coming back stronger than we've seen in 20 years, with a towel that was first defeated fairly rapidly by US forces who get the whole issue here. The American people supported this withdrawal from Afghanistan in the drawer.

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He gave the Taliban he can do it on his own. Of course he can't recognize it is a government officially at the world level, but he did refer to the Taliban as the head of of running Afghanistan, titular head of the government yes and also clarified which we talked about on the air to but there is there is no more US Embassy in Kabul. It is at the airport. The actual Embassy compound think they confirm that has no security no no presence there, so it's been entirely overrun by the Taliban, so the one hand, he is telling the truth when he say they are running the golf they are running the show on the other hand, what were fighting out, though, is at what point does the US respond to the Taliban because of of any kind of aggressive steps. We know the shutdown the airport at all those kind of booze can lead to conflict, more conflict, which could lead to loss of American life. Loss of civilian life there so she got all those people crammed in training to airport so I think this this this entire drawdown. It's made America look very weak very confused very unprepared variant. Yeah so you got an article from politico. Not exactly a conservative of paper. This is the definition of gas lighting is chaos and folds of Kabul airport buying team projects, and the reporter writes meanwhile the West Wing is looking increasingly disconnected from reality is the bind might strive to project a sense of calm and competent competence, even as the Taliban tightened her grip on Afghanistan. So here's the course the dilemma unless something unbelievable happened by August 31 Harry were not gonna see American All-Americans. By the way are hedging. It All-Americans who want to leave and leave. I want to know that I somebody needs to ask him. Kirby what that term means because he egos on my boat of absolutely gnocchi every time he gets up I have less and less confidence in our government's capability to do this, but when I look at the projecting calm person was actually happening on the ground. Harry from a policy perspective, I'm trying to figure out what is the policy get out if you can, well, I think the policy basically means that we had decided unilaterally to leave to the Taliban. So while Joe Biden attempts to project call while Jake Sullivan, his national security advisor claims that we are actually over performing in terms of the evacuation numbers.

It is clear that the stench from Biden's foreign policy disaster mounts among the dead bodies of Afghan security forces amid the chaos and the lack of sanitation at the airport and among the Americans who were stranded in Afghanistan with no way out.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden has zero answers. And when he issues an answer. Guess what Adm. Kirby and the Defense Department and perhaps the State Department they are contradicting what Biden has said about less than an hour or so ago. So what we have is children who are running the asylum. That's the problem is and this is God can have devastating consequences. So we talked about right before the break. We talked about this idea that as we draw the troops further and further down about 6000 over there as they're leaving who protects them just you know if you had a victory. McKay and Ed in a military engagement. You have your troops there.

You don't have that here so West from a military standpoint they got a question for them from a military standpoint, what is it looking like right now there's 6000 troops on the ground and thousands and thousands of civilians you talk about a target rich environment that airport with thousands of people crowded into a small space is a is an attack waiting to happen for some group like Al Qaeda or ISIS. But you're right, Jade. There's a real disconnect at the White House between the rhetoric and what they're trying to do to reassure the American people.

In reality on the ground as the Taliban tightened their grip and actually orders and direct US policy and US actions.

Americans are still unable to find a way to into the airport many times. Some people with US passport are turned away or they're told to go to a different gate to find that get close. There's reported tension between our troops in the State Department. There's disorganization. There's bureaucratic infighting and delays with ISIS threat still looming large. Meanwhile the White House is reassuring us that everything is going according to plan secular defense.

Austin said just yesterday that what were doing there. The whole operation is a tremendous piece of work.

This is work all right yeah it's a given that it's a totally piece of work is divorced from reality. This is a real real crisis in the White House, he said repeatedly. This was unavoidable and that is not true. This was avoidable, but they they really mismanage this exit from the military, you know, I was wondering about guy great.

I was wondering on the political side of this Jordan plan what, what's the calculus here with the White House.

Why think that their idea is that if they can still washing but the ideas is if they project this image that just short-term. There's got to be these issues were hey that's I was actually happy to grab the long-term if they project that image that the American people to forget and move on.

I think another issue that that is that we have 20 year conflict.

You have a lot of veterans, a lot of families of veterans so that that may be more difficult gets a lot of members of Congress who served in this I mean what I think about with this started I was just turning 20 years old now it's ending about 240 years old, so use that book, but that that's important because now the people who grew up in this are starting to be leaders in our country. So I think that that could be a proffer. The buying team is that this is going to be harder to just look away from as a country during this great point.

I mean, there are a ton of members of Congress who actively served in Afghanistan or even more who have children, and served in Afghanistan so this is personal for the night. I would tell you just on the political point and you know it's not the most important one, but it is when you factor in in Washington DC. I do not think they have any other option. I mean, because look you think about it. They've done a house wide classified briefing. They've done a House foreign affairs classified briefing this morning they given an opportunity for people to be briefed by phone, and Jordan. I haven't seen anyone who's been satisfied brothers briefings. All members of Congress still think that this is an absolute disaster, and I would tell you just just one point from the President speech yesterday that I'm hearing a lot from Capitol Hill on when he says he's now requested a contingency plan. I mean I think people will tacitly say will II mean I guess it's good he's requesting it now, but Jordan, in order for a contingency plan to be any good.

You have to consider it in you have to land on it before you execute their withdraw. Why is that just happening now. That's not pacifying any of these members who in the world is a contingency plan. The most think. Let's think rationally. Here, who does a contingency plan in the middle of the engagement. I go argue a case, the Supreme Court got argument a I got argument be and then you always have the one I call the exit ramp. How do you get out of that situation that is decided, months and months before.

How do you not have a contingency payment plan militarily. Wes, when you're in the middle of the very end of the engagement. What is that look like by the way the white out what's going on with the military leadership on something like this you know and planning their planning.

The disappointment in all of this for me and maybe there are conversations going on behind the scenes. We don't know about, but it appears that your your senior leadership, including general Millie and secular defense. Austin, who is a retired four-star general, they are not confronting the White House. They're not giving them the hard truth in a very confident building they're not there.

The complete unit that they lack confidence. They don't instill it in the rest of us.

The mistake was trusting the tell a man in the first place When they begin to take all the provincial capitals that was violating the agreement we had on the withdrawal when they beat when they overthrew the government violates the agreement we had what was our action supposed to be to attack and to push them back and we did not do that in network trusting them to provide security for us as we jump with artillery sorrel. I'm watching the good in our cities.

We have media. Some watching us in a secretary blinking is about to about to speak, and obviously Harry to trying to do some kind of media control here, but the fact is, if you were asked for.

What is the coherent policy. I can't find it. Well, there isn't a coherent try to get out I guess.

Is it trying it out, and so if you look at Secretary of State Lincoln if you look at the Department of Defense under Austin. If you look at general Millie. I think one of Biden's first mistakes was depending on the people that he hand-picked.

That's number one.

Number two I think if you actually look at the operation we have created by giving up the back room airport before exiting before getting all Americans out of Afghanistan.

Essentially, what we have here is Dunkirk without the competence.

In other words, at the end of the day. This was all avoidable. If you look at Dunkirk, for instance, that may have been unavoidable, but one of the great things about the Biden administration is that they fail to learn from history so therefore they basically intend to repeat it. I think what what we have to alternate discussion will get into this it will come back for the break is the what we think about this. August 31 deadline because the way that he's open is left out open to start drafting contingency plans. The idea is it with ways to go but the ideas again is that even possible.

Was that your something to seem like we have the ability if we want because people does what he does not want which is bizarre when you put it when your conflict is any conflict with the US troops and the Taliban had a running scared from that.

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A guy who got elected.

A lot of people say because he was so empathetic. Covert it sure this different tone is not showing that tote he is straight up reading off that the Teleprompter so the parts that would sound like emotional that you usually see some like Joe Biden type individual. The way that they can pay before the way they've held so that the public is very different than the kind of hard-nosed, everything's fine, no big deal that they deceive yourself or you wouldn't make these constant addresses to the nation. If there was nothing to see here so I present would be continued speak, you would see our Secretary of State out you would see these press charges by Judge Herbie garnering the attention that they are, but this is why take a list of the said this today from the Pentagon by 34 Intel that have set up checkpoints we talked about this before, and we are in daily communication with Taliban commanders about who we want to see get in and what the credentials are what they look like. What's valid and that that come that communication happens literally every day, we have been nothing but open with the Taliban and about who we expect them to let in again fully recognize that it's that that that not every step of this process is in our firm control and that there are going to be instances where it doesn't work as advertised.

This guy can do something I does it restart how we did that happen. We have been upfront and open with the Taliban like that's going to get you.

Why would be open with the development like that is what I would say we know they're not letting Afghans going with the Taliban announce that yesterday okay that's number one. And they're relying on the good what the good offices of the Taliban to because of the titular head of government.

Now to do this yesterday. That's what that's the position of the United States is somehow within a few weeks we went from controlling this country every aspect in every major city.

There was no major presents for the Taliban or these other groups they were carrying out massive attacks on the Afghan military was was on the front lines. We were not having to be of the front lines, so things were relatively for Afghanistan call buoy for women were going to school I went were being educated and there was a new set of human rights, and this new respect, that wasn't to say that the Afghan government was perfect or that their military was perfect but again 20 years is a long time for a war is a short time to develop an entire donation and new new structures of government, military, police, all those different things that you have to have judicial systems to function as a society and an it just feels like we just gave all that up instead of it being precise and focused and not so what we see the images is chaos and chaos.

You could have.

We are running away.

That is, that is the message I got from Joe Biden's he would rather us appear to be running away that engage in any kind of conflict with the Taliban which is which is not giving enough respect our military art despite the special forces there. There they could easily take on Taliban commandos where he says that we have let the Taliban know what our expectations are. They had the they over and over violate our expectations. They don't cooperate and there are no repercussions to letting them know what we expect them to do. It is pretty hollow.

Here's the thing I'll say in you alluded to Jordan 20 years later the Taliban today controls more than twice the land area than they did in 2001 when we went to war in that country and they are calling the shots as to how and when we leave optically. It looks like a complete victory for the tell a man and a complete rout of the United States of America. That's Outlook. I mean, here's the here's the policy problem we have going forward no matter what we say.

We note the Taliban and argument claim and we know that this is in fact going to embolden terrorists.

We talked about before we went on ready. You have all these arguments that are now located in Taliban control.

What prohibits them the Taliban from shipping those off to Hezbollah and Hamas. And the answer is nothing. So this this awful withdrawal would now looking at contingencies while you're here please got his plans falling apart completely and while it's falling apart.

He calls his generals of general millions of pay.

What else can we do have may need a contingency that's how this looks brisk and look like a total failure.

I'm not up on the global stage Harry for the United States. That's what I'm concerned about. Also, how does this impact our allies who are already saying don't do August 31.

Don't stick to that deadline GA conference yesterday Pres. doesn't budge. The only thing we get out of it as well he may look at contingencies. I think you actually later I'll talk about what those contingencies look like as good look like a war.

I think you're absolutely correct. So essentially what we have is a planned form of a national humiliation by the Biden administration. Basically, Biden engaged in an intemperate decision and ill-advised pullout from Afghanistan after giving up the bag when airbase after failing to identify all Americans in Afghanistan and so essentially he caved to what a terrorist group.

So if you look at it from a distance.

What we have here is the second coming of Jimmy Carter. What we have is spineless and that's and so while Joe Biden continues to depend on the Taliban.

We also have reports of violence against Americans by the groups manning the checkpoint outside of airports DOD Sec. Austin has acknowledged in a phone call with lawmakers on Friday that Americans are being eaten by the Taliban, saying the administration has what related to the Taliban leadership that such behavior is what unacceptable and so guess what do you expect terrorists to find a note from Biden or Austin compelling. I don't think so. So I think the United States has to up its game and it has to be willing to take some risk, why to protect American citizens who are in harm's way, which Jenna Ben Yehuda, such as a 12 year veteran of both the Bush and Obama a State Department she's present in the treatment center.

I don't think the President's rhetoric matches the conditions on the ground that that's a pretty that's a pretty much an indictment of where it's coming from, yes, but I think it's if the idea politico Sears gas lighting the country but if they do that effectively and you looked politically in the end that's what they're unfortunately I think if you realize from the slot.

The last or should we haven't really talked about it a partisan sense and there that's what they're looking at that in there looking at it from.

We can have this political move. If long as we all keep this in history shows every battle just shrugged her shoulders and move along to domestic issues situation. Jordan read at an airport under Steve seed, you get the Taliban and controlling access points to it. And what's the response from the commander-in-chief of the superpower of the world.

It's work, talking to that regime that's controlling access routes to the airport. By the way Jordan to say nothing about the response I got from the talent was a response to got the house on Sunday. Take a hike, right here.

Here's the response from the Taliban. No, that the development response and worksite.

Oh, Adm. McMillion, Gen. Millie, could you meet with Emily Kirby.

Both companies builders and and come up with some kind of contingency plan. This is a game playing with lives of Americans and people that help Americans take your call today and hundred 684-3110. We come back at the American Center for law and justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be now $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in the new protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms are most important to you and your family. Give a gift today online ACLJ keeping you informed anything. Now, this is Jordan secular. A lot of talk in these last 48 hours 32 hours about the number of Americans in Afghanistan how to get out now what they're being told now is that what you get to the airport in one city, you can still get out as an American we did get numbers today so I think this is airports and for the first time I the Pentagon has has given a number now. I want you to remember when you hear this that the scale is somewhere the 10 to 40,000 people would be American since its a believer in the country.

They don't know exactly there's some good reason for that and some are reasons that utilizing fact, that is, you don't have to register as an American you can but you don't have to would you visit these countries but we have a lot of contractors we have all the USAID programs that were going on nonprofit organizations that were working such as working couple. They were all around the country so that they could be places that are not reachable right now. But here's the number that we got from Kirby and the Pentagon, escorted by 33 4000 Americans and evacuated is an updated number and you have these in case number. How many have to be evacuated now this right now, today, north of 4400 and don't I don't spend don't have a specific number of total Americans that that are still in need of of the of leaving you 4400 would not now.

You should plus family should be through don't have exact number, but we know that's well less than 2000 to 40,000 W. plus these Americans in our allies and their family members are not just in the capital city of Kabul. They're all across the country. We are not securing routes.

Unlike the French and the British were not sending special forces teams into various smaller cities and towns to grab our people were doing nothing other than relying on the graces and goodwill of our sworn enemy.

So Harry, when you got a situation like this, and in the State Department working with their position as a gym, worked up for what is it that you listen with the crisis. So there is a crisis is falling apart. It's a disaster. What do you do how do you regroup right now. Well I think the first thing you do is you fire a number of these characters who have gotten us into the mess in the first place. I think one of the things that we should think about is a policy organization is we should look at the background of all of these individuals from Lincoln to Jake Sullivan. I think if you look at their background carefully were you find footprints fingerprints. It's the Chinese government and so I wonder this is just speculation on my part. Whether or not these individuals have made a strategic calculus that the United States will exit from Afghanistan because this will be pleasing somehow to China and it will better we will get along better with China going forward. But I also think that they under estimate the Chinese government because now the Chinese government feels empowered, I think, to go after Taiwan. Eventually, and that could lead to a much wider war.

So one of the things that we should always keep in mind is what Ronald Reagan said trust but verify.

And I think what we have in the Biden White House is trust but hope here's an interesting thing. Solicit from of a reporter Fox just waited this out multiple sources tell Fox that there's a cohort of house members from both sides of the Republican Democrats who are either trying to go to Afghanistan instead to go to Afghanistan to help evacuate people. This comes by an emerging by house speaker Nancy Pelosi not to do so we come back).

I like it be great to get yours and Ben's comments on the political ramifications of all of us. Yeah, I mean what did they Biden team is thinking long-term, this is not how the Americans to make the decisions that this cove is endemic because domestic issues but again I think they may be miscalculated how many American this impacts because of how long this conflict. Conflict would on living her to the Fort Worth ACLJ at ACL data November matching challenge throughout the month of August.

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In addition, see those that's new yet to get what you doing right now what happens at final plane take off the threats that they're talking about.

Well you got that and then at the same time you have again this is what's being reported right now is that the pheasants officials in the last few days, numb.

Think about this for moment have proposed retaking Bagram air base. We talked about that the other day which is a gap in the first place. The military's main hub for American worker since it was handed over to Afghans and fly. It's now being controlled by guest that the Afghan soldiers anymore. The Taliban said they important part of this is in recent days, they proposed retaking it now. You know I have to retake that Yep engage in a war because there's every hundreds or thousands of Taliban troops and we saw how they look at the picture on the screen again in tactical gear, not caves anymore and there is that's mocking Iwo Jima course, but this is. This would require military engagements will, of course, they decided not to do it, but they should never evacuated that weight in the first place we went of got into this mess absolutely did this. This was mismanaged, you know ill plan from the get-go.

We should have never given a bottom until we actually were gone. It is the largest base. We built it there. We should've gotten the civilians out first.

Everything in this whole operation is been completely backwards and J when you have week and feckless leadership politically at the White House and you combine that with week vacillating military leadership is a recipe for humiliation and for defeat and sadly, this is the start truth. This is where we are today.

Do not cringe west when you when you turn on the television and we have all three networks. The major networks and cable networks and in our offices on the screen. We do a radio prep and are all on the same topic and got Adm. Kirby in general. Millie and then and there up there speaking, do not cringe when you listen to what they're saying it's as if they aren't don't know what's going on because they don't they absolutely don't and they're not willing to take hard, decisive action, the part of the problem.

J. Is there very very risk-averse. There are risks will not wait for that yet their risk involved in this kind of an operation. There is a risk involved in rescuing your people. There is risk involved in confronting your enemy. They are so risk-averse. One of the officials at the Pentagon said the other day that the reason he was against retaking Bagram airfield to use it is another port to get people out of the country and to get some of our weapons back. By the way, was that he felt like it would be unwise to antagonize the Taliban by taking it back. Are you kidding me your word about antagonizing the Taliban.

This is disco secured to the hole and then discussed the whole mindset of the way this everywhere publishes Jimmy Carter in 1979 Barack Obama per unit from from 2008 forward at me for right back. It's amazing how the pendulum just shifts right back and were not right back upon Christ die.

We do need to say that the ACLJ were to try to get answers here were not just analyzing which is important and we getting a lot of information about this out that we are working on some very special projects on this right now so you'll be totally informed existing could escalate in a minute but we got up freedom of information act request going up probably Friday. That's right. And, and what were looking at their courses.

Two things one is the elimination of the critical response unit at the State Department should put in place by the trust administration's update could be utilized right now. When you have people that are outside of Kabul that need evacuation that was eliminated by the Biden team.

What was that why deck. What was the process.

Why do that. Why not have a crisis response team at the State Department. The second is of course what would into this August 31, why did that become the new deadline unit was shifted, but what happened, why did that become the state certain why do we keep putting those dates that we could set if you want to be that way. To say broadly August or June or summer or's fall. But when you give those dates, the Taliban, they seize on that. Of course, and so there's that you used a one minute longer than that, you know, we don't know what could happen to anymore now. This is all being said that they that we are putting the trust in the Taliban to keep things calm enough on the ground until August 31, and if you look at the images of how close our troops are getting to these Taliban fighters. Sometimes yards away where in the crowd there walk you through with their new machine guns event our troops right there with it. Seconds away from a conflict you have to trust that the Taliban has enough leadership structure in place in the size of the city that is Kabul to actually be good out even if they are making any kind of assurances to me that it's also what we treat this like it's a well rounded machine when in fact it's all these different affections put together different pieces plus you have to understand that while the tele-band and Isis are enemies you know, again we have thousands of our troops and other people crowded into a small space in an airport all the Taliban has to do and they would do it in order to say what we didn't do it, and some have crazy plausible deniability to lead and Isis suicide bomber into that area that they're the ones controlling who goes in and out so it is a situation where our people in the people trying to escape that country and are in real real danger and this amounts to me and it's sad and shocking essentially what the Biden administration plan to know this was a planned defeat. They hope the tele-band would not capitalize on it. I think part of the hope was that he would not become a big issue.

But seriously, this was a surrender. This was a planned defeat, but people did notice our allies noticed in the tele-band is capitalizing on it and Isis and Al Qaeda are waiting in the wings to attack Americans in America again.

Sharon is counted from Kansas on my one Haitian marketer secularly on their will probably need to click. I have been reading that a lot of private groups have raised to go rescue people. They have the plaintiff etc. that department in tell-all angling Wednesday in order for people to go and is there any way you can put pressure on the State Department to get that done these private groups are trying to do and I think the intentions are well-founded, but the reality is this is a war zone and when you're dealing with a war zone you you cannot override your government's interest in that, in the sense that the risk factor. Now there are there are private charters going in and out of there but those generally are firm are coordinated by the government, you cannot.

I can imagine the situation in his own as dangerous as this everywhere. Private contractors could just go in.

Well, you got a sovereign government support of the Taliban and if that's what you want to call it that they could say no well and interfere with United tend to agree with you but I also think at the margin. Some private groups have had some success and I think this is why because they have the will to do so. Sen. Tom cotton, for instance. He's been successful and in the rescuing a couple here or there and he has basically shared his the contact details with the American people, and others, Glenn Beck, for instance, has raised. I believe 27 or $28 million maturity. I'm not you I'm just not sure how they how can they can just fly planes and their height.

I tend to agree but I also would point out that they are trying to make up understand what the government became fairly American.

They just can you be successful in the long term.

You can correct as you coordinate their private flights going out, but that's it you with the US you have recorded with the US government that they're using their contacts on the ground simply to get people through the barricades enter the airport get on a blank but get. That is what I knew this whole drive of get raising money for private aircraft to commit that's not coordinated with the government that's gonna be very difficult.I think about will see is probably the likelihood that a soldier's a contract soldiers and advisers which we've seen is with success in these regions because we talked about. They have the will to do it there paid to do it. They have much higher pay. The risk the reward it out so they made this calculus of cells, but they're also working with a different level like this story about that in the $6500 fight Nancy. That's for contractors that might people who were there for us were the corporate business style evacuations that failure is admitted that when everything is made very interesting points is now. I think all of these things would've probably worked before he surrendered the country want to surrender the country becomes just infinitely more difficult. Yeah right. They could have said to the Scripture K. We need your help who you with assistance resettling people getting through the process. We see the pictures that a Dulles airport straight out of Afghanistan distraught that were now you know it will end in the United States or give me a lot of assistance to get on their feet. We write back on second only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life. We've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the abortion industry and what Obama care means to the pro-life discover the many ways your membership in the ACLJ is powering the right question for copy mission life today online ACLJ/the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those who, through their faith, uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress.

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You forgive today online ACLJ secular player cars at Walt's good friend of ours of the broadcast and a veteran of this conflict. Take a listen by 42. Will this Congress is going to lead our offices right now are operation centers calling gate guards calling the Kabul airport, guiding people through tell them how to avoid Taliban checkpoints our own Congress. It's unbelievable. The lack of leadership.

So I 100% agree that blood is and will be on Joe Biden's hands and this Congress will hold him accountable. I think to to this point with Jude Saki actually said in response to question for life he was. This device basically will just give us their phone numbers and she was doing this kind of confident it out not be.

I get the fact that there at that point.

That's where the realistic of the crisis right right with the White House press secretary is telling White House reporters just like the Congressman talk about their love. You know somebody is giving their phone number and they will get them into the database to contact that shows how how chaotic this is and and of course all this chaos could lead to swear the meatiest it's it's be covered at mass this way everyone is waiting for the moment stirs back into war and the risk of that of course is that these contingency plans are, but I'm sure there are more rooms right now in the Pentagon. Figuring this out, but let's just speculate for a moment here so come the 31st all the Americans are not out in the tell a man start doing with Taliban terrorist start attacking clamping down doing horrible things to people, including their own citizens and Americans. Then when we get asked Alyssa contingency look like yeah yeah you know it is so so avoidable.

But the contingency would have to involve either walking away, which I think politically and militarily is not a possibility for that even for this administration, or were going to have to engage military, which means major deployments combat deployments back into Afghanistan. The major utilization of airpower know it's going to is going to turn into war again and in their effort to try to avoid war. They've actually made war more likely.

Listen to what listen to what this was a reporter asking a question to Jen Saki. I mean this is dearness take a listen on one US citizen suddenly discovered an essay to get out. I'm stuck somewhere with this trigger a moderate ministry that I think you get that person out whenever they continues to be team assistance if they want to leave.

We will help get them out again. We expect there could be some but I don't get into it further what you think.

I'm speculating here Jordan. What you do that we want to get out is that the mercenary did great soldiers fighting for that. What know there's also that there people that could be married to somewhere that are leaving there could be people that there's a lot of people that might qualify as US citizenship of various ways that you had 20 or conflict. There people going back and forth between United States military contractors, businesses, nonprofits, so there might be some who say and I'm sticking with this. Maybe they work for different Internet network for the UN. They can work for other entities.

If the American citizens but that's small group that's not 40,000 people. So the 40,000 has got to be primarily the people would be the staff civilian staff consulate staff and that mixture and I don't. I think that these members of Congress are right.

I don't think there crying wolf others to hear from people who try to get out there. Try to direct themselves. November Congress tell congressional staff that that is that with those they're doing it that they're trying to do their best not set up to be the State Department on Capitol Hill that their desperate Jordan and like I mean, I don't think that you members are probably went over there probably help the situation up.

I don't need members on the ground with their desperate Jordan because the administration is falling down on the job and look, I mean Jen Saki I think she's using the minor exception of the very few people who would say I would say to give cover for those they're not getting get out of Inc. Jordan okay if those people gave Jen Saki their number. She Artie told us what they're telling us people when they call them there, telling those people get to the airport. We can't help you get there.

That doesn't do any good. Is this is the product recently tries. Is this because they'll ever get larger, much larger scale. We don't really know. We know people are dying. We know people are that that the situation is accurate. We don't have numbers that the media is very has a very small window into this, which is basely where they are at the airport we don't really know what's happening outside of that of the reports and then see the major conflict yet know Mike and that we know and we have not see that yet, so no one should shot Riley and don't you think the Taliban are smart enough is evil and wicked as they are to not engage in a military conflict.

While we have 6000 troops there. I think that's a maybe because they are the Taliban and they were ripping through the reason reputation is that it is as being Islamist supporting terror groups to the question of how bad they think if this is what and how much control they actually have over these these different units is also the question about Pakistan's role of this because you got these commandos now coming back in who say that the Taliban are they to look like the Taliban they don't dress like the Taliban they don't they don't have the same hair as the tell a bad they don't look as tribe.

They look like they were trade military in major cities. They think that they were potentially trained by the Pakistani military, so they come back they are different than Taliban and that this structure is hardly any people there who were left over from the beginning of this conflict is a one or two left, but I think it's it's it's it's it's nothing.

It's not like the guys elicited their art. There are tens of thousand people armed all walking around each other right now in a chaotic situation with guns pointed the loaded owner. Thousands of people trapped there.

Not just at an ambassador in a staff as was definitely doesn't yet know what if they did talk about putting him occurs as the President is kind of which starts looking like it would touch on this briefly yesterday, but when you put some like Karzai on whose disc was internationally respected although it was a tribal leader before it was made into this reformer. They put him as President Afghanistan starts looking like a ran except a populace that is never really experienced freedom because in Iran. They had to some extents and that I wonder if what would you be looking at Harry post all of this is the start looking like another rent not as sophisticated on the and on the nuclear weapons yet, but it certainly seems be going in that direction if they decided. I think that's very very possible and I think we should fear the possibility that Afghanistan becomes another source of terror and so are rotten has had the most impact on the United States by fomenting terror in Israel and elsewhere, and so I think Afghanistan is another safe haven. We all know for instance that Al Qaeda has now resumed residence with in Afghanistan. Notwithstanding the Pres. Biden's denials, he was contradicted by the way, by his own spokesperson Adm. Kirby sighed as he could hear every Gabby Wheatley note that there is a deadline wheat we could keep hearing from our present should ALB keep your for these other leaders. Truth is they've open the door to contingency plans really keep this everyone is keeping focused on this at to make sure this is that's it that we just shrugged her shoulders and forget and were committed that the ACLJ fleet. We we fight long-term battles and and we don't give up, and so on this issue. It's keeping the discussion open, keeping it robust keeping information flowing support work the ACLJ at ACLJ that only he double the impact your donation the entire month of August at matching talent that's ACLJ.org touching Mark at the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be now $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in the world who knew protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you and your family.

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