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May 25, 2021 1:00 pm

Was President Trump right about the origins of COVID-19? Dr. Fauci and mainstream media along with him have begun to change their tune and now are questioning whether it was created in a lab in China. We all remember when mainstream outlets called such beliefs a "conspiracy theory" and saying it was thoroughly "debunked." But today the Washington Post said, "the Wuhan lab leak theory suddenly became credible." Jay, Jordan, and the rest of the Sekulow team - including ACLJ Senior Counsel for Global Affairs Mike Pompeo - discuss this and more today on Sekulow .

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19 as now felt she and of course the mainstream media along with him begin to change their tune and questioned whether it was lab created by trying to talk about that more today on secular live from Washington DC line phone lines open for your questions right now: 1-800-684-3110 and now your host.

This is washing February 17, 2020. Sen. Tom cotton keeps repeating a coronavirus conspiracy theory that was already debunked. New York Times February 17 say babysitter Todd Cott repeats fridge theory of coronavirus origins sciences have dismissed suggestions that the Chinese government was behind the outbreak with the kind of delegates traction among those who save China as a threat. Okay Washington Post today, 20, 21 how the Wuhan lab leak theory suddenly became credible. What it suddenly became critical because let's do this flashback hears every fallacy in May 2020. Take a list if you look at the evolution of the virus in bats than what's out there now is very, very strongly leaning towards. This could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulate the way the mutations that naturally evolved a number of very qualified evolutionary biologist have said that everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that evolved in nature and then jumped species that was found she had 20/20 segment. Another could've created this the Wuhan lab now course Wuhan lab if they were transferred to the world right Chinese government but they will do that.

He's then asked again 2021 this month may Dr. Felty changing his tune. All those articles saying you know it was conspiracy theories that Donald Trump was lying that he was spreading a conspiracy of anti-try to conspiracy to close the doctor felt you this month asking you still confident that it developed naturally. No, I'm not convinced about that. I think that we should continue to investigate what went on in China and inside that this is to me in May 2020. Last year exactly seated and said I was empty.

Found you just crushed Donald Trump's theory on the origins of covert, 19, and now in May 2020, 21, he is putting new life into the theory that in fact we may be right. Those of us who suspect this was lab created. So what's clear is not does not appear to have been accidentally created in a wet market in Wuhan, China. Instead, the evidence is now starting to point to the fact that the Chinese Communist Party which runs the Wuhan lab course the Wuhan Institute of very allergy was working on this intentionally know whether they leaked it out intentionally to cause a world pandemic that evidence hasn't come yet. That would be steps down the road.

I don't know if that'll end up showing that but that's exactly why an investigation needs to happen because if this was a weapon eyes virus which certainly you as more people died in the United States that American soldiers died in World War II. That's how significant this is meant that's just the United States of America. So when everybody was belittling Donald Trump and saying it is nobody's talking about. He's incorrect. It's a conspiracy theory here is the problem was a conspiracy theory he had course, the President had access information. We didn't have and that Anthony Boucher probably did not have and the fact of the matter is now they're all backtracking. This is the beginning of determining what happened, because if John is in fact responsible for an intentional act that changes the geopolitical framework will talk about that my Palmdale later in the broad and effective. They were just hiding it. I think a change that whether not they intentionally leaked or not this is I get to that next step that you have the leaders of the media now accepting of the idea that China did create this at the lab and next next you have to figure out was Italy was intentional, this their severe consequences. Both of those was a leak.

This lab should be shut down China should be sanctioned because they didn't report this info to the world even though they would've noted it was intentional. Over time in a whole different world of of issues that China should be facing will take your calls 164 3110 by popularly joining us in this first half-hour challenges facing Americans are substantial time and are now our freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ on the front lines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

But here's the bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms event remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member. Thank you. Not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ God where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice defend the rights of life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the end what Obama care means to discover many ways your membership is empowering the right question for copy mission in life today online ACLJ/Mexico. We are to your phone calls 100 684 31 two that's what hundred 684-3110. This is the New York magazine how the liberal media dismissed the lab leak theory and smeared its supporters and that you get elsewhere. That was an election year. Supportively you go down the list from the New York Times. I see it in your crushing Donald Trump's theory and there's one on Pompeo New York Times May 7 Pompeo ties covert to try to lab despite spy agencies, uncertainty, and now you have course of Dr. Felty says no. He thinks there should be more investigation done to see if it was done at the lab. Then suddenly, all while he speaks that must be right, even though year ago he didn't totally dismiss that the knot was wet.

It was a wet market and that's where it came from. It came from the back night was interesting about this is Anthony thought he said he is now not convinced that it I love those line Andy. He's not convinced now that it developed naturally this kind like a double negative. We know at this meeting. So when he says is not convinced that the felt naturally he doesn't finish the next sentence with would be that it developed intentionally internally how this is this is Dr. Fouts's out doublespeak saying earlier than this month that he is quote not convinced to develop naturally wanted to just say that my convincing now that I see things is that it was developed in a laboratory and will hand China in the virology lie in the Institute of virology wanted to just say that what you have to say that you're not convinced and developed naturally through Babson water markets and so forth.

But this is a person whose credibility. I'm not convinced is really there. JI have real problems with Dr. found his credibility and the keeps changing his story and as we saw in the beginning, the difference between what the Washington Post said on February 17, 2020 when they bashed Sen. cotton what they said today you know really changes in the year has changed in the lifetime we need an investigation who is not the organization to do it.

I don't trust the World Health Organization to get to the bottom of this thing at all. Jordan and I think at Fort so you have kids sake. This is your her whole responses. It's all about the World Health Organization me this is this is what she said. I mean take a listen there asked about who to get to the bottom of this weather still putting it into the world holds that health organization which gathers Trump administration stop funding because they were lackeys and still art for try to take a listen.

The Y for more information to get a lot of exactly where we are and we have repeatedly called for the WHO to to support an expert driven evaluation of the pandemics origins that is free from interference or politicization. So here's what he tells me. I think this is what the bigger picture here and maybe maybe this is another FOIA request amendment thinking about that right now to maybe we need to find out who knew what went but let me say the what's the real issue here is not simply the issue of well it looks like it was in done intentionally.

The lab and we don't know what it was intentionally leaked or not, but we do now know that the first reported case of this were not December 8, which is what the Chinese government was reporting, but rather was in late mid-to-late November, when three scientists had to be hospitalized from the roof and laboratory so you ask yourself what is the ramification of this geopolitically. Harry well there are many round ramifications. But let's start at the top.

First, experts are often wrong.

They are often dead wrong, particularly when they reach a consensus without doing basic scientific research and when they are insufficiently skeptical of so-called received wisdom and all of that has occurred with respect to the coronavirus by engaging in this misbehavior by being insufficiently skeptical.

It puts American lives at risk.

This then leads or has led to collusion between experts, the media and political donors, and that then affects the outcome of elections and now many American lives have been made worse by the outcome of that occurred in 20 in November 2020. Now the Biden administration has read join the world health organization. This is exactly the wrong step. There is very little evidence that the world health organization advances the health of the lives of the people of the world. Although it does a fantastic job of increasing the size of the pocketbook and the wallet of so-called experts. So one of the things that one of the lessons that we should learn from all of this I believe, including all of Dr. Fauci's many missteps is that we should not rely inordinately on experts and so if you look at the rollout of Dr. Fouts, East testimony, it has been a series of isolating events up and down.

Yes, you should wear a mask know you shouldn't wear a mask. I know this is not serious. Yes, it's very serious.

Perhaps you should wear three mask so at the end of the day.

I think the American people should learn to be skeptical of these so-called experts were highly paid and who are funding at least in some cases, the Wuhan Institute virology in a one person that gets no credit zero credit for any of this is for present United States Donald Trump. For those of us who have been vaccinated were able to get access to a vaccine in record time because of the leadership of Donald from his presidency.

So all these critics that blame Pres. Trump who mocked him when he said that she called it a Chinese virus virus that originated in China think there's any quick German measles.

Same idea with blaming the Chinese people. We may be blaming the Chinese government. The Chinese government may be held To be held accountable because our geopolitical rest with this, but the one person that gets no credit where he should get credit was the vaccine and that vaccine which came out in record time has caused the numbers of people that are getting serious illness to drive. It was a 50% of the country been vaccinated a ready yeah will as of today 50% of the country been vaccinated so you know EDC had had a credit for getting that done, but that did the left will not do that know there's no way that the President Biden the left wing media is going to give Pres. Trump credit for that day. That's not going to happen. As a matter fact, Pres. Trump put into operation warp speed. He put into play all these pharmaceutical companies and scientists working on a vaccine.

It came out in record time of Pfizer Mme. of the Johnson vaccine. We all lose their who I think are right-thinking and who follow the signs got the vaccine.

I think it was the right thing to do. I think it was the prudent thing to do, but no one in the vine, Biden administration is ever going to admit that Donald Trump did anything along those lines to improve the lives of people and to save lives in the United States.

It's just not going to happen now and any other setting.

Pres. Trump talked about it he eat. It was open about this.

He got slammed take Alyssa bite 17 below is who and how it happened separately and also scientifically similar than my question is, have you seen anything at this point gives you a high degree of confidence that the Wuhan Institute, virology was the origin is so he said yes I have, yes I have. He was slammed by the plan by foundry enough outreach is saying the same thing that it likely that we need to do the research because it could've originated in the lab.

So how much of this was playing politics with people's lives play politics with try not to blame China because we know the left.

They love China because they make so much money from China, starting with the Biden family are down there to the Chinese legal situation with with Nancy Pelosi and I and Sen. Feinstein yes and tire swallow while I'm in the those goes on and on and on but this is this is the point in an election year. During a pandemic.

Anyone who thought differently about what potentially could have happened was called a conspiracy theorist and spout the anti-Chinese, a rhetoric that were supposed to trust the Chinese, the World Health Organization will no longer because now Dr. Fouts. She has waited yet. That matter the Prez unites its read more if Intel access the backstretch will ever have his entire life waited on it said it could be we need do we need to build investigative say hundred percent but that's the point here is it. We then shifted in a year from saying no way the Chinese created it to. It's certainly possible. He did look how crystal-clear this is. I mean you got have a situation where it was they were mocking Pres. Trump about sign that this wasn't saying that this was intentionally created. Now all of the evidence seems to be pointing to as the medias now say I was Dr. Fouts.

He is now think that this was intentionally created. Okay then he asked yourself the question, what does that mean geopolitically natural organ address coming up with our senior counsel for global affairs Mike Pompeo, former Secretary of State, he speaking out aggressively on this as we have to do is not just that the Chinese government did this is one of the ramifications of that politically we come back in the break Jordan to get into that really great length.

That's right, secretary Pompeo be joining us live here because it 1-800-684-3110 if you want face prepares you to share this with your friends and family before I Sec. Pompeo joins us with his insight. He was also slammed because he happened to to say a try to could've. This back a year ago that everything changes will be right back only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive.

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Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing work, become a member today ACLJ. Singulair, joined by our senior counsel for global affairs, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo who just tweeted yesterday, Congress party, China was actively engaged by research the Wuhan Institute of virology every piece of evidence points to a leak from the slab I Sec. Pompeo were now seeing what's reported now is so to see you but Washington and the media.

Dr. Fouts, she everything is now open everybody's open now to what they were calling a conspiracy they were attacking you about it. Even their techie present Trump about it or ticket senators about it. Anyone who talked about a lab leak theory that even in intentionally.

The lab leak lab created theory you purporting it to ovary a year now is the only thing that changes that Dr. Fouts she is subtly told the media. Well maybe he was wrong along here make indicate it was important not about vindication about the world. Understanding what took place here with Dylan out all the details, the tenant, party is continuing its flagrant cover-up, but all the fact that you not become the light, we were greatly parts of the back January davits intelligence report.

I will pay this. I assume Dr. Paquette access to all the same information.

Why while changes my now I don't he can explain it, but the correct answer has to be that we need the data that the kind that were patient be looking for what really happened and every piece of evidence that the talking about the fence spring of last year over year got out everybody's inevitably clean in that year suggest that they wanted you to virology is the place for which the virus leak we know they were doing virus studies on bad viruses. We know that they were doing chemical gain of function rate actually supercharging viruses. We know that the military was involved in work at that same laboratory we now know that their work.

Workers at the laboratory who were hospitalized with symptoms that will have direct all of the data that leads me to the conclusion that this came from there and if were wrong. If that's not true can become his party could disprove it in a minute and they tell them not to do so. Follow up with that Mike and that was we know that China was aggressive and has been aggressive in their campaign to to deny culpability to hide evidence and cooperate with the World Health Organization which they always touted but they really cooperate with the World Health Organization. They really cooperate with the rest of the globe in dealing assist with this.

So what does it tell us about the Communist Party of China's complicity in this sense is you just said they could clarify this in a nano second game being put there at the very least, guilty of a cover of a virus that came out of Wuhan that is not killed more than 3 million people. In short, billions of dollars worth about that. That's the best case scenario for the Chinese Communist Party today, your point about not providing information. I remember we were trying think Garbo strike HHS was trying to Dr. Redfield. We are all trying to get information. January 2020 about what the Chinese new and what was going on and that date, they gave a shout out no info.

Dr. disappearing journalist. This is what authoritarian regimes do this by orchid ACLJ support right when we know how authoritarian behave, they deny basic freedoms, religious freedom, but also the freedom to talk about what you're doing right and they shut everybody down at it. It is tragic as I'm I'm confident that the world known earlier, we would've had fewer people lost this past year and I'm equally copy the lift with something like this happened again which is my greatest fear. I'm still open.

Bob still doing but I will research this, you know so much we don't know we could have the next one. Take out 30 million people, you know, we can talk about the geopolitical significance of all this.

What is it needs as you move forward is not just we've now uncovered this.

Are you seeing in the intelligence report it's now what do you do and our senior counsel, Amy, has a question for any get Sec. Pompeo, you tweeted the China must be held accountable. What exactly do you mean by unaccountable. What do we have to do to hold the Chinese Communist Party accountable in your estimation of the afternoon with Doug, but I want to go easy on about the World Health Organization that they corrupted it that politicized debate.

They were co-conspirators alongside it should be part of an international body soul function is to prevent pandemics right that Mitchell has one job when it comes to pandemics they failed.

China shouldn't be part of it.

Second, and others in Olympics in 2020, about the genocide Olympics because of what's happening in Western China we should the whole world should say I'm not can offend my athletes my craft by businesses to this place and reward a regime that is continuing to deny the world information about the pandemic. That's the worst one in 100 years 1/3 with what we know some of the leaders we should put real pressure on them by thanking them for their role in the cover-up. And then there is a half-dozen other things that would be straight that are within the control of leaders today and we can oppose real cost of the Chinese government party and when the cost dried up the Chinese communist party will have to come clean Serbia 60 Pompeo on the one hand by the mistress in the White House that you know is now saying even HHS I Sec. Becerra sank.

You got to the World Health Organization has got you down a re-conduct a more transparent investigation. There still relying on the World Health Organization, which many believe you widely because of the Chinese influence there and their lack of being able to get inside to get to the real information. The last time they tried to do this investigation. Why are we. Why is it will cut the US put more pressure on trying to put the bite industry should put more pressure on China to get a more reliable investigative team weather was made up of Americans and people from other countries, but outside the WHO, who even I guess the binder ministration is acknowledging now.

They don't believe their first investigation should be should be accepted. I remember there were about who became part of the bite of work. Turning to the WHO investigation as this is our solution doomed to fail. There were people a conflict of conflict of interest in second anytime you're doing this that the permission of the Chinese come to Sparta they give you curated information about developing. It was a total failure.

WHO doesn't have the capacity take to get the intermediate real estate power to convince the Chinese government party to cooperate and be really hard to do. Like I don't make light of that, but what you can't do it Brittania can conduct pretend investigation that doctors, including folks like Dr. Pratt. You talked about that W here investigation is something that might lead to important discovery we deal with them to fail when it began. We should never light upon it at any point.what is the consequence if in fact this information comes out as it is and speak come starting to come out in droves now and we find out that number one it was not created was not a wet market situation. It was actually intentionally created. We don't know if it was intentionally leaked out.

We do know that in November that there was scientist hospitalized with us. If the world does not. Nothing can really have a minute, what happens hello okay there's no way to look the other way.

I think were at that point now. Maybe others will want to see what the world must respond. We must must be accountability there is no way to impose liability on the Chinese government party. We saw this would Chernobyl right think of a more terrible tragedy was covered up by that authoritarian government.

This is the same kind of cover-up got impose a number of cups and we don't have enough time to go into that but there are methodologies that would be got and not just the United States with the world must unite against this or we will suffer something like this. Once again, as always, our senior counsel for global affairs.

After the secretary state my content. Thank you for joining us to give you your insight now folks will start taking more of your call second half hour, up your calls, your comments at 1-800-684-3110 now you've heard the new information that you've heard from former Secretary of State and former CIA director Mike Pompeo member of the ACLJ team. We what your thoughts on this major shift major shift by fallacy in the media give us a call 1-800-684-3110 great Mexican if our ACLJ is been on the frontlines protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena.

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This is May of this year. This month, take a list asking you so confident that it developed naturally. No, I'm not convinced about that. I think that we should continue to investigate what went on in China. So here there that an absolute no, I'm not convinced use the same phrase in the early when he said if you look at the evolution of the virus and that he says again and now he says if you look at the evolution of virus except the conclusions different conclusion now is what's out there is a very very strong leaning towards us could not of been artificially or deliberately manipulated. That's what he saying everything about this stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that this evolved in nature and then jump species Edwards back to human. Now he saying, well, no, not exactly.

Now he saying when asked if the virus originated. Naturally, this is what he says, I'm not convinced about that.

I think we should continue to investigate what went on trying until we continue to find out to the best of our abilities. What happened Andy yeah so here ago.

He saying that this thing developed naturally just happened that evolved in bats and then it jumped into species into human being. He was convinced of that. He was sure that it was positive that that was a year ago. Suddenly I want to know what happened in the year intervening to make him say no I when asked the question, are you still confident that it developed naturally.

He says and I quote no, I'm not convinced about that what happened in that intervening year to make the change.

Dr. Vacek intelligence report started leaking out. That's what happened. Information started getting out and in Harry's wrecker policy when information starts getting out what these people do start writing a current with the most recent information I think that's true, but I think if we go back to the quote unquote scientific basis for Dr. Felty's assessment, nothing has really changed except he was exposed by the X exposure. I should site of the new evidence and so now he is covering himself, but the reality of course is all of this is about assuring the American people that he is not incompetent and I think the clear evidence suggests quite the contrary that Dr. Fauci has passed his sell by date that he needs to move on, that he no longer knows what he's talking about. I don't care how distinguished he was in the past.

He doesn't know what he's talking about and I think the American people are poor for having this together. Take your calls. We come back. What 100 684 31 two that's what he hundred 684-3110. This idea again this is from the New York magazine how the liberal media dismissed the lab leak theory and smeared its supporters and now course because Dr. fallacy is open to this theory that there's been a complete change of the B Washington Post said how the Wuhan left today of the Wuhan Bradley theory is subtly credible, subtly credible. Just because the person that said maybe it happened so with a light. It is a Donald Trump and some from the front of his face like former secretary state Mike Pompeo even of the note that nothing is changed.

Save and tell it's because of that the voice behind now. Even our HHS Sec. say that is to be a new investigation into China but they're not willing to investigate on their own rely on failed WHO to the pocket is owned by the Chinese. We write back on secular 164 3110 to talk to us the challenges facing Americans or substantial time and are now in our freedoms, our constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades.

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And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called life will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to the pro-life in many ways your membership is empowering the right question for copy mission life today online/your phone calls now 100 684 31 two that's what he hundred 684-3110 suitability while being on line 3 hey Bill Logan Sekulow you're on here like really believed it worked out. People with which lead me to my question. Patient be making an attempt to co-opt everything that Pres. Trump did and take credit for it is willing to let others spout the same kind of theories and if it's someone that they except inside their ministry should like and found she will sadly they can all that shift so they did using him to do. I think that what you're exactly right, co-opting what Trump said, but not via Trump via found she who was initially spouting off anti-Trump use a safe Trump's wrong.

There's no way it was created in a lab that we saved could be created a lab and now the Biden administration and the HHS sec. the Bible say there's gotta be a new investigation. The weather Wuhan lab created that he and I want to focus on. We did this with the Sec. Pompeo but I think we need to focus on what is its meaning what what what are the realistic outcomes of a situation like this on personal return to Harry on the economic side of this because as an economic component of this training is a big trading partner, with much of the world including the United States. If it was determined that this, in fact it had happened intentionally now we know now that looks like it was created intentionally, but whether it was released intensely. We don't have that data yet that evidence is not there yet but if it was, what is the ramifications or if it was done by negligent some event as well, where the economic ramifications for this well.

I think they could be enormous and, indeed, they should be enormous. I think first that we should establish that the Biden administration has perfected a particular approach to international events called leading from behind and I don't necessarily see them taking immediate action, but I think we should we should take action against China. We to should take action against Chinese products we should take action because China continues to subordinate and perhaps engage in genocidal misbehavior with respect to the burgers within its own borders, and yet we now have a plethora of American companies who are profiting from massive sales from products that are produced in China, some of which may indeed have been produced via slave labor. And so if we take our responsibility as a nation.

Seriously, if we believe in human rights. For instance, then we should engage in action and that action requires.

I think the imposition of sanctions on China and I got a political question for Jordan and a legal question for any politically one of the Democrats to hear what he said that there try to shift to while fat.

She says we need to investigate it work and investigated whether to do it through the WHO, so that now open to the idea that China did create. I wanted you this important step step one was getting past this idea that somehow this theory was just a conspiracy theory without pass that is a step two is determining if China actually created this in the lab. This third step, which will be the most consequential is that if they did, and if those were who are right that their peers it would slab created and that there is evidence there. The third is even the most important politically and geopolitically and that is was intentionally leaked or what's this letter should this lab be shut down because that it leaked unintentionally. They do about the six doctors in November and to add of data between 19 and I didn't tell the body shutdown travel from Wuhan that they did that, but we continue to allow travel from China to the US till present Trump Trinidad replied by call that xenophobic. At first this incident, Nancy Pelosi, but that third step I beat can have serious consequences, try to weed now at least as a country are our in agreement that is possible. China did this intentionally, so here's the next question I have when the next thought is legal consequences to this is the WTO. There are training global what we have training agreements with China. There is legal ramifications of this week. China has a lot of US debt on thinking outside the box here and thinking you know, there should be a lot as we would say the law liquidated damages provision here you call if in fact it was we know it. At a minimum it will be negligence whether whether it was weapon icing intensely. That's it will have that evidence yet, but negligence yeah think it leaked.

There should be a legal consequence that any yeah I agree with you Jan, I like the idea.

What you said in liquidated damages. Look plenty of Chinese assets in the United States right right we have assets and I said there were Iranian assets in the United States. The rows of of other countries which we froze in which we sent are not going anywhere as recompense to the United States and the victims of the will and virus and that is exactly one good alternative to do the Biden administration doesn't have the guts to do that because there's so invested with the Chinese right now. And there's so much a part of China because Washington DC and Biden is just a caucus of the Chinese in my inventor in my opinion, just like the squad is a caucus for Hamas, you might say but they won't do that.

But what they should do is say look, you put to death 1/2 a million people in the world, including many many hundreds of thousands in the United States. Whether you did or negligently. Whether you did it intentionally, you did it, it happened again from your lab income from Batson income from water animals. It came from your tinkering around in the Wuhan Institute of virology and you need to pay for it in the way were going to do it as it is through economic sanctions and I think that's a good approach to to confronting the problem with daily California is calling about your satellite one a Julie Walker secular you're on the bottom I've heard a lot on how we can hold accountable.

One remark I don't on negligence in the economy. I think they were definitely not applicant a deliberately leaked unlicensed on the world because they left the Wuhan people travel everywhere in the world, but they would not let them travel to China by think tiny separately on using the biological warfare and we need to stop funding the way possible and I like your idea for the weekly financial got to get you have to have hard evidence of hard evidence of what it was created in the lab. Next is more than Intel investigation and the CA type investigation which is did they do it on purpose or was it leaked music or was it did leak unintentionally, even if it's unintentional leak. They should sit face significant consequence. The lab should be shut down China should face economic announcements because of happy people died. This unintentional if it was unintentional, which I don't believe anything the Chinese there was unintentional. I never have and I don't believe I that they are weak enough in their science programs meant to unintentionally weakness of now the fact she thinks it was created in the lab it's more likely to me that they did this intentionally, they Lisa intensely to what you have to remove the Chinese thought process. The party, the state is most important. So this idea will what, but it hurts (people they don't care the people individual is not important China but Harry this cut ties into another question we got, which is to be actually icily China economically. Are they too big to fail. Well, that's a great question. I think the first question is whether or not we have leadership in place in Washington that has the will to confront hostile countries and I think the there's an open question on that particular issue with respect to what the caller suggested if you look at legal concepts. Generally we scale things up.

We talk first about negligence then gross negligence, recklessness, gross recklessness and then evidence of intentionality, premeditation, and the like. I think the first thing we should do is to launch a serious investigation right now the Biden administration is not committed to a serious investigation.

Why do I say that they wish to rely on the WHO they continue to rely on Dr. Fauci. Those two individuals and organizations are clearly and unmistakably unreliable and so I think we need a serious investigation.

There is some scattered evidence coming from US intelligence sources which suggest that any of the virus to escape from the lab and be there may indeed be deliberate misconduct by China as yet that is not confirmed but first we need a real investigation then we should ramp up China's liability. We have a final statement coming up we have time to take for your phone calls to if you get it down. What hundred 684 31 to to talk to us live on the air.

Jubilee China intentionally unleash this other world now that the step two, where those who pooh-poohed the idea that this could have been intensely created by the Wuhan lab are now open to the idea that it was intensely created, so was it intensely released on the world. That's the next question that 1-800-684-3110 share thoughts with us at 1-800-684-3110 we have a lot more cut up and fight us over the broadcast.

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You see is asking to its ocular White House press room yesterday about this argument, we are said that they want the WHO to reinvestigate the questions are what you really want the WHO to do that.

Why are we waiting for them. Take Alyssa by 14 589,009 Americans. Five say we don't want to wait for the show. We don't know what they're doing is the American flag ever. Well first of all we need access to the underlying data nation in order to have all the time about how she is and we are misunderstanding how this process asked works in international investigation led by the World Health Organization is something that we've actually been pressing for for several months in coordination with a range of partners around the world.

We need that data. We need that information from the Chinese government what we can entail and what I would caution anyone doing is leaping an actual international process.

We don't have enough data and information to judge a conclusion at this point, we will never get that information or data.

Okay let me explain a couple things. Why would you put the WHO World Health Organization in charge of this investigation.

Why would you even do that.

Number one, number two, the arrogance of gin sake.

I think you misunderstand how this process actually works in international investigation were led by the WHO is something that we've actually been pressing for several months and hasn't happened, pressing it, but it hasn't happened.

Number two, number three. We want a range of partners around the world. We need the data we need the information of the Chinese government about this, but the present picks up the phone and said you know what now finding out that this thing was that was intensely made in your last we need to know everything because you know what we are where the United States of America your largest trading partner and you got a lot of US debt when there's a lot of damages here I go back to when Amy and I talked about allowing standard to we could write that that claim later that your bad actor. Sorry right but due to their kind take us to bankruptcy court along with us, but the kicker actual war that will so there's no there's again, there are ways to handle this, but we devoted sake was pressed to get RB by 50 take Alyssa so is there any amount of casualties from holy in this country, it would make one to Maui for international and just doing what I think the family members of the loved ones. His labs have been lost and I deserve accurate information, data, not jumping to a conclusion without having information necessary to conclude with the origins are willing to share everyone in this country is a desire to know how this started where it started and prevent it from ever happening again. That something else or Cisco before 2000 684-3110.

You see, they are not willing to have the US there what you abide to own it because again he brags about his relationship he would build get this presidency is the truth because right now try to display the strong big-game Joe Biden.

It looks like the week President was for the phones. I will go to order the cause of coveted Britain Virginia on line 1 first taper it. I talk about the judgment against China for the whole virus outbreak make the fly look like the $10 check to get grandma to allow the Treaty of Versailles. Yes, if you mean the Treaty of Versailles the end of the first world war was a pretty bad deal for some people it would be said when were trying to say here is that we can hold the Chinese financially accountable. Like we said we can wipe out the debt with a gun to take us to bankruptcy court. We can freeze their assets against future damages to families that haven't been been incurred as a result of this, that's a good idea, but the political will and that God's to do that are not in Joe Biden that is the issue. So take you to go to the fall 2064 3110 that a bride exit New York highlight six hayride to part one is anybody else I virus during French President like I do and so how do you hold anybody accountable happening again.

When Biden and his administration, and the people behind them are not willing to go forward and hold anybody accountable.So on the coincidence the horse I deal with them is I want to see evidence, I want to see the evidence of the intentional leaking of the virus, or the negligent leaking of the virus or the weapon icing of the virus. Do I think this is an accident.

Mike got as a trial lawyer tells me no there's no accidents with the Chinese Communist Party. None that so that's kind of number one.

How do we prevent it from happening again. Larry, that's me real accountability and sanctions yes and there has to be real urgency on the part of the Biden administration. So far there is no sense of urgency. They claim to care about the victims of the coronavirus, but they are not doing anything about it. Instead, the Biden administration continues to fall over itself in being submissive to presidency in China, so back take the final call of the day Frank in New Jersey on life or a freight with the design that launch an investigation and populate the political motivated between the Biden administration and the Chinese government said it does raise the question again because somebody this administration from Blake Kidd the Secretary of State to the Biden family have benefited so much financially from China.

I meet his Institute at Penn is funded by China.

We could read the Institute funded by China. His family has Rick made millions hunt tens of millions if not hundreds off of business dealings with Chinese government owned companies because everywhere those companies has government ownership so II think again political motivation 100%. The Chinese cannot stand Donald Trump. He scared the heat he threatened them in the idea that he was.so they could just play. He was afraid of them, and so a virus gets at least of the world that emanates we know how to China now the liberals in the fallacies by White House or HHS Sec. Becerra are all open to the idea they claimed was a conspiracy theory a year ago the Chinese created and now they're open to that huge shift figure that out. We did figure out the next step which is why did it get out to the public in the world lets you know the great question that this is what work were moving to this. It's coming in steps so that's really what this is is a stepped approach in an in law you always follow the evidence you gotta see where the evidence actually leads to. But one thing is becoming clear something happened and it wasn't a bad by itself in the wet market. It was not Hannah and I agree with you Jay when we deal with evidence were lawyers we deal with hard facts. We don't do a surmises we don't do a speculation we don't deal with anything, but I gotta tell you this, the Chinese Communist Party doesn't do anything by mistake by accident. They do it with intent to do, and they're very careful and very cautious right folks I would really continue to get into this continue to track this, of course, very close.

It is a huge shift cannot underscore that enough and bothersome political consequences to it as well to huge shift that now the whole country is the idea that get the Chinese could've created a seductive, fancy say no I don't think that it's just that the idea it was somehow animal origins and not created lab is hundred percent totally shifted that that puts it all on China spotlight China how responsible they for this pandemic hitting the world at all the deaths for decades.

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