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ACLJ Presses State Dept. on John Kerry’s Secret Meetings with Iran.

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The ACLJ presses the State Department on John Kerry's secret meetings with Iran. We joined by our senior counsel live from Washington DC lines are open for your questions right now: one 806 843-110-1800 68412, your host, secular secular bear to hear from you hundred 6031 2000 683110 and I were to be joined in the next segment by RCR senior counsel for global affairs of my Pompeo be joining us to talk about these issues.

We've issued a new FOIA you mix it up a website ACLJ.org. We did not get to it yesterday in the broadcast. Regarding John Kerry and other officials were who were former Obama officials. Two of them are now back in the administration under Joe Biden John Kerry and Robert Malley all were involved with creating the Iranian nuclear deal. We met back in 2015 we now know that through the years 2017 2018 2019. Up until the Iranian Foreign Minister as a reef whose note that who Iran puts 41 English-speaking media until he was banned from coming to United States was meeting with these high level former officials remember they went after Mike Flynn first fruit for segment during the transition when you're about to come in. The power he should've on the phone with any world leaders or any of the representatives investors because of all outdated laws never been used on the Logan act, which is likely unconstitutional.

It's why it's never been enforced and the same people were doing these meetings to undermine any outreach and there was outreach being conducted by the Trump administration bacterial communications to Iran so they were undermining that with Iran to to undermine any kind of talks between Trump in the right you think about to the success of the Abraham Accords. What were they worried about the dollar Trumka pulled off with Iran. The irony of ironies here is the fact that you had a situation where the current administration was put in the really uncomfortable position of trying to negotiate its foreign policy, which rested with the Trump administration, while John Kerry is meeting with Serafin others on the situation with Iran now that they may try to bring charges against Gen. Flynn on that when he was in conversations that were I mean pretty benign and now you have this, now here's the concern that I have what was John Kerry doing West. That's the thing that bothered me. What was he up to undermining my guesses what we administration. He knew the ministration was the pull out about that ridiculous Iranian agreement right right it's shocking it really is. You know, and you're reluctant to to say things like a what I'm about to say when you look at his behavior. What he is done and it's almost like John Kerry is anti-American un-American. He is way too cozy with the country that calls for the death and destruction not only visual but of America and any at the same time as what Jordan said they work.

They use the procedures they were taught about the Logan act against Gen. Flynn and the person by the way, who brought up the Logan act was then VP Joe Biden and he said that might be a way that we can see the prosecutor somebody here for the Logan act and that is the very act that obscure 19th century law that says you cannot conduct foreign policy as a private individual. When there is an administration in place to do that, but that's exactly what John Kerry persistently did during the Trump administration through the years and years of back channeling and undermining with Pres. frump and his advisors were trying to do and you had asked yourself what I know you we and we are weak, but why their answers do April 5 and as usual into the State Farm psychedelic and would be in court Island court and I get it? It's not just John Kerry but also Robert Malley's back in his this is the lead advisor on Iran State Department now. He was one of the lead authors of the JC POA negotiators there back in power they were doing this when they were not to undermine existing administration at the time. Think about that support our work get a matching challenge right now. It's how we are able to take on the State Department take on these government behemoth at ACLJ that orcs were matching challenge donate today my Pompeo joining us right after this, the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom detecting those who are persecuted for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's not help way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge every dollar you donate $10 gift dollar gift becomes 100.

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My Pompeo choice by phone today on the broadcast retired a lot of these issues evolving over just. I bet Iran in these meetings with John Kerry, Robert Malley people were back in government roles who were not in government roles were meeting with Iran's Foreign Minister until he was banned by the Trump ministration from visiting the United States and they were having these meetings at we assume would be to undermine the Administration's effort any efforts with Iran and so secretary Pompeo joining is now Mike, let me ask you question we were to get to the situation that you may not really addressing on Twitter which is a tall Palestinian paid a sleigh and before you get to that.

I want to finish up where we were just discussing the first segment the statement, but with John Kerry because you were during the time that John Kerry was doing this you are either the director of the CIA or the Secretary of State. So I asking the question, what was he up to what I saw, I thought, you know, according to the so-called but not so-called the Logan act, which has a lot of constitutional issues.

I thought they're not supposed to be doing that.

Thank you ma'am give us more than look, they're not fundamentalist. 11.

At the moment but not antithetical to who we are as Americans, we have one present one Secretary of State on national security advisor at a time and yet John Kerry was meeting with these folks and had deep relationships with them during his time at secretary state when they negotiated this really unfortunate irradiance to put Americans at risk, he would almost certainly sending them the thing secret signal with a just weight just what you can wait to get that we know the put enormous pressure on you and we know that we could you we know that they have isolated you, but if you can just hang on until January 2021, we likely that the policy of appeasement will be rejoined. That's the kind of thing. It certainly influenced the rainy and thinking almost certainly and weakened our capacity to execute the duly elected President on policy meets me at snow we got freedom of information act request out on that right now the government's response is due April 5.

I suspect were to be in federal court on that one summer getting that ready. Let's go to this issue of Palestinians bundling really hundreds of millions of dollars to terrorists and let's talk to Sen. Pompeo about yes now we really learned State Department report housing spend at least $151 million in 2019 and it's paid a sleigh program. Additional hundred $91 million spent on deceased Palestinians referred to as quote martyrs say they dislike us the that make it to 60 people were imprisoned because of the acts of terror.

People who were killed during the acts of terror and so you talk about again at over $300 million and a significant amount of the US funding was cut off by the Trump administration.

Now we have the bind by demonstration.

Looking at ways to try and get around the Taylor for Sackett. We discussed and and start the money to start flowing back capacity authority directly. So secretary Pompeo you been tweeting on this and one of the things is, it's paid a sleigh program. Let's explain that to people so that they understand exactly what were talking about outstanding authority that were used to engage with the United States through our entire time trying to get a conversation going about how peace might be achieved is all about people at the same time was taking money their money to pay those who work arising is really terrorizing part of the killed American who was in Israel and they would take the person they call the martyr and their family paid up.

They pay the money intently a little boarding number. The terror accident conducted with that. That's just crazy. We stop giving any money to the Palestinian Authority. The log requires that the Taylor for Sackett makes it legal but it's immoral to launder US taxpayer money to those terrorist have United States taxpayer underwriting a regime that is sending checks to people who are actively terrorizing people in Israel Israelis and not Israel's insight of Israel and killing them and knifing them development is just so deeply tomorrow. I hope that the report that we now have read about is wrong and administration doesn't go back to that horrific policy is that they're going to start negotiations up with the Palestinians again including Parnate which is use that would violate specific legislation that was passed with my bipartisan support mask a fundamental question is how do you negotiate with a partner think that they can talk with Abbas and the leaders who have for so long had so much opportunity presented to their people to get a deal J. In the end, there money they're enriching themselves. They are kleptocratic of the highest order, and why on earth would they enter into negotiations like laughter, there are people that II why this administration when they refuses to behave in a way that we ask them to do about all matter, and as a legal matter why you'd begin to have a conversation with Emmett.

It was impossible to make another issue that that we've been briefed back as John cares back is John Kerry sitting down with China on acclimating. This is in the midst of you, we saw China just telling off the US publicly at the UN at the meeting with the current Secretary of State Alaska and now were supposed to be sitting down with you know we are sitting down as the country and type I climate change, not only with one of the world's worst polluters, but a country that has no interest at all in vain. Following any rules whatsoever.

One of my great about the ministration of climate change ahead of America first and that they are prepared to sacrifice on the altar climate change American security that thoroughly applies to the situation with satellite why you would have acclimating discussion with a country that has that that America's fundamentally people fundamentally about an in decline escapes me.

They think of taken climate change. The plate never been in America for multiple part-time really concerned they will trade away deep American security interest, the Chinese, starting the other countries when have no intention of actually reducing anything related to carbon emissions, pollution anywhere inside of the country to go back to the situation with the Palestinian Authority. This is something I've been involved in for an Andy, was on her radio submit right now and we been involved in this for a long time in these negotiations and when you're doing is the case that we had was trilateral negotiations involves appointment of a religious leader and had to get the Jordanians of the bells and the authority and the Israelis agree, it was extremely complicated and dealt with them directly as well. Now my question is this. With the success of the Abraham Accords.

I would think that this current administration would try to build on that and the way to not build on that is to go back to the failed model which is this negotiation with the Palestinian Authority, which leadership will never come into an agreement for peace, might you have met all about. What about Paris as well. There hi there, there will have to be confronted near simultaneously. In these folks have missed that dental understanding from the Administration that you can increase the ability without the precondition the house didn't come back to the table.

I still have this 1970 of the Arab-Israeli conflict exist anymore. It's not real. Abraham Accords prove that and that change in the relationship between those countries that is relevant to each of his will and arrive at a change for the go back to the same old broken failed tire bottle up and we just didn't do shuttle diplomacy between the Palestinians and Israelis is back at work and is a fruitless dangerous proposition to switch socks a little bit, but it's what I wanted your thoughts, eyes met for member Congress has the CIA and Secretary of State is this immediate push after this horrendous event in Colorado and we don't know there's a lot coming out about who this person was, but the immediate politicizing this we need to give her the filibuster. We have to get rid of assault weapons and try to seize these moments as political moments to take away American secondment rights adjuster just to let you address that in Atlanta and Boulder are real well a lot of good good people whose lives were lost but the Democrats have taken every opportunity to try and use these moments to creep our power for their leftist agenda and I think that's what you see, this is just another excuse for them to try great power by destroying the filibuster will take away our fundamental rights that's that's not what we should use reason, not emotion and reason would be following our Constitution and ensuring that members duly followed doing everything we can to make sure we support law enforcement so they have the resources the capacity to prevent the mishap as often as they can. We appreciate your comments is always on my pump sector state golf member, CIA director, and currently a senior counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice on global affairs Mike thanks as always for being with us. Thanks for your insight.

Great piece up on ACLJ.org as well by Sec. Pompeo. You want to check that out. They bring with Mike. We appreciate our folks that we are going to take your phone calls to 164 3110 at 2000 684-3110. That's 164 3110 to get into the space like you and I want to get into the Taylor for sex because I think everybody's comments on this and was mostly get some advanced comments on this in Washington because this is specific legislation that was designed to prevent a slight winter.

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Protecting those faith covering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this or that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge every dollar you donate $10 gift gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ. The work we simply would not occur without your generous heart wrenching challenge make protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms. Today online okay singularity of phone calls 100 684 31 to get back into the issue. We talked about first with Sec. Pompeo, which is this issue it risen back because of the numbers are starting to come out more clearly from the State Department back to 2019. When we know the Palestinian authority was spinning hundred $51 million a year on terrorist who were not killed during the terror attacks as part that's partly paid asleep program is a separate program hundred $91 million a year toward peers who were killed during their tax and 500 people working inside the Palestinian Authority inside the bureaucracy. Just handling this this program so it's known to the world. It's not secret. It's in their law established by the law and finally the US 2019 said no more, passed a law by Congress. Bipartisan Taylor force act policy authority, so long as you're doing this no direct funding at all and maybe some egg on the other group but not going to you as a as an entity and and and they been blocked and now the character at the buying team is not a Freudian slip that accurately pleasant to abide team is looking at how to get around this law yeah so I want to go to Fannie Mae. The law was passed with overwhelming bipartisan support was an American that was killed by Palestinian terrorist student from Vanderbilt actually and it was a horrific scene.

Unfortunately happens regularly not as regularly as you still but it does happen and it's a problem but explain, I think it's important for people to understand exactly as we had a calling or a question from Carrie on YouTube saying, can you please explain explain paid his sleigh and the law to combat it. Which of course is the Taylor force act and yes your sojourn explained to display very well is basically Palestinian Authority pain terrorist for killing enemies and terrorist acts, but here here's here's the bottom line. J. The short answer to the question of how the Biden State Department would get around this is they can't do it legally. And that's because of the Taylor force act, which started through the legislative process in 2017. It finished up in 2018 was signed into law by Pres. Trump and that statute specifically says that the State Department may not disburse these funds. J unless and here's here's why Sec. Pompeo's comments were so prescient on this unless the Secretary of State is able to certify that those payments have stopped.

So in order to comply with this law if they want to again release these payments.

J. Sec. blinking would actually have to certify that the payments have stopped, but the numbers that Jordan just read J over from 2019.

After this law was put into effect so clearly they are not complying. Clearly, the Biden State Department cannot release these payments. I suspect they're gonna try to do it in contravention of the law. Janice goes back to the bipartisan support that the Taylor force act task.

When that happens, here's what's can indeed happen. Washington DC Democrats who supported dislodging there can have to rise up and tell the President he's got it back in line. You pass it with the traders rebrand right and call it a welfare program right.

This is funneled back into the general welfare program so people deceased.

He has admitted that the earners to sit that that's again. That doesn't stop the program right. It doesn't stop the issue. We should be full but that we arty know that's that's the idea. We know that's what the Biden mistresses who try to sell Congress on stopped it and but we know that how they're going to keep the program to the rat people and is through calling it welfare, but we saw it on the streets of Jerusalem and he and I experienced it firsthand and he set the stage for that. I think folks share this with your friends right now. If you're on Facebook or on any of our social media platforms because working to give you an experience that is the real thing we were there in Jerusalem and heard things we said this doesn't sound good coming from little kids we were walking in the old city of Jerusalem, and there was a little group of five-year-old six-year-old children about the 15 or 16 of them and they were walking with their teacher in a line through the old city and they were singing something in Arabic or chanting something in Arabic and I asked our guide. One of these children being taught to saying what kind of chance is this what kind of repartee is this that they're engaging in any says they are saying the following with spirit and with blood. We will take Palestine back.

This is the indoctrination of five and six-year-old child.

How was a child like that going to change their attitude toward Israel toward Jewish people toward people who are not Palestinian Arabs when you are indoctrinating them from that age. With that kind of mentality textbooks in the Palestinian schools is a serious problem and when you indoctrinate five and six-year-olds when they grow up, unless they have a reality check and unless you stop paying them there's a chance a genetic percentage West that engage in murder and Taylor force act was designed specifically with the man said why bipartisan support to not allow that to happen. Yet we know from the certifications that have come forward 190, $191 million was spent on Steve's deceased Palestinians referred to as martyrs. A martyr is someone who died for their faith. Taking down usually Israelis and usually by the way, civilians and Taylor force. What this law was passed, the Palestinians, they didn't equivocate they were very very clear that they were not going to stop this ramp. They didn't they didn't hedge about it. They were very upfront about it in this paid asleep program J is is that if you are terrorist and you kill or injure someone and you end up in prison they give you a stipend. The entire time you're in prison if you die, then your family gets what amounts to a pension because you gave your life this because this is this is recruiting for violence is promoting violence and it is my Pompeo sort of refer to it even if you get put the Taylor force actors that put the law aside, why would you want to reward this kind of policy and program from a strictly an ethical and moral point of view, why would the Biden administration want to engage with people who refuse to quit killing innocents.

The answer is you want that.

I mean the idea with the law which was signed by Pres. Trump was passed with bipartisan support was to prevent the Palestinians from doing exactly what Jordan just said they are going to do this as a shell game there that the money is fungible and it is going to move it around. The actions will not stop what they call it may write inaccurate and not putting on the table to that by demonstration that will stop doing this essay will rename it so that make it easier for you to get around existing law that restricts you administration from sending money to us directly.

You know if you actually cared about the people they are there ways you can get money to those people. You don't have to go through a corrupt time about my Pompeo's about these guys have are all billionaires that leave the Housing Authority. How do they think they earned that money.

Another taking that deciphering it off from all this for the support they receive a filing the US it if you want our support. You have to do this, they were willing to do it. They were willing to change the law, because you realize this is still only 6% of their budget for taking so much foreign aid that they do not even need the US money right at the US is get a say on and I'm say I give the by demonstration is the only way to get them to the table is by buying them if they don't find them in table right now. The Abraham brother working there there there ineffective half there to talk about Adam that the people you need to deal with have an idea for new case on this end. And so again we are about all these issues were taken because of 164 3110 at 2000 684-3110 got our four a and and it looks like that's heading towards a law lawsuit filed April 5 right around then give the State Department because they are already saying here that can't comply in time with the law that's putting force of the American information.

The freedom of information act last on their shadow diplomacy, which is violate US law and try to win that way with Iran of you know when the pilots a lot of sanctions to the American Center for on critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be now $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms to you and your family.

Give a gift today online LJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and secular hundred 64, 31 to 164th REIT. What was your severe blog upon this you can see the ACLJI.org as well and it looks like this is going to be headed to federal court without a for request regarding the government officials, John Kerry, Robert Malley, the former Sec. of energy were all meeting with the Iranian Foreign Minister the years 2017 2018 2019 when he was in the US for the UN until he was barred from traveling to the US by the Trump administration for lease for three years.

They were having ongoing conversations with a foreign government representative when they were outside of the government and the report is that they were doing this to undermine any efforts the trumpet minutes at frustration may make me try to make towards Iran.

So basically the idea as a secretary but there was talk about his just ignore the trumpet ministration ignore the sanctions.

Yes, we know it's tough but will get the money flowing again.

Will get back to that JCP way again. Just give us time and do it but don't work with these guys I think some of the don't work with these guys was what happened with the Abraham records was shot. Your people like John Kerry that really blow their mind they can't and they don't want to acknowledge it. In order think that way so the trumpet ministration getting into a negotiation with Iran who knows where that could go to undermine their entire idea of how the world should operate.

I thought of the exact same thing and that the duplicity of this Wes is what so the irony of this is that they make. They went after the trumpet ministration yet they were actively engaged in conversations with the Iranians after we pulled out of the JCP away. The hypocrisy is shocking is like Sen. John Kennedy from Louisiana said with these people. The only standard is a double standard is my plan who was an incoming actual security bars are good every reason to reach out to it to our foreign counterparts is foreign counterparts know they vice President by another sprinter to bring charges against him was. Eventually he what he was entrapped in and was brought up on charges. And yet John Kerry. During this same period.

That's the Arctic is the irony is still doing. There's other lost time dealing with Iran.

This is not like calling up Russia is not like calling after there's a lot of laws in place with Iran if you're in trouble. Start try to make deals with the Iranian government. Yet when he is a private American I can make a deal with Iran, he be violating a lot of different laws on the books sanctions laws in place. If you are telling the reef is a private US citizen. What you could do for his government, which is sanctioned, you probably are not just violating the Logan act laws, which may not hold up in court, but actual sanctions Treasury Department rules you could get brought up in court for John. No respect for the rule of law that's pretty obvious I mean you know he was he was Secretary of State, he thought.

He continued to be Secretary of State.

In spite of the fact that he was no longer in office and he was going to do this no matter what any did it with the knowledge of his cohorts were in power again in the Biden administration.

Of course they knew he was talking as a reef into these other people.

They were with they were complicit in this, and then it doesn't. I just ignored the trumpet ministration. I said we don't care about Trump. We don't care what he says we don't care what he does.

Were just going to negotiate and work these things out because 20/20 is going to be a victory for us in 2021 will be around will be back in power again. So who cares. Or that's exactly what they did or was John Kerry and I don't know this and this was our producers thought Will Haynes said was John Kerry saying don't worry.

The FBI has an insurance policy and Trump in the me a new regime and net worth. You say that this will not secretary prepare set, 20, 21 to 2024 know he's this I did all the stuff swirling around Trump let that I'll just handle out the will be back in place and will be billed guys back again and literally and and the same bad deals and were looking administration and Iran that was playing hardball with them saying you know you gotta pay us on the back of money you sanction from it. So they're the same situation on larger scale, like the Pouncey authority saying that the table must give us just like they did last time. Start sending the received billions of dollars. Again folks over. Don't just talk about these issues. Work on this issue.

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Remember this folks will pay import something. One of things I thought about was a bit of a kind of a preemptive FOIA and that is a request for information in the deny all these by the white were already in court on one were to be in court in this other one and probably two weeks and I'm sure this what we knew it would be in court to put that's fine, but a way to get ahead of this rather than just being reactive plan will yeah a FOIA request now on that you know even reaching back your IJ would be to see what conversations have been going on about this and honestly, if we decide to proceed on this.

I think the area that you would focus on his was there any conversation on this rebranding that Jordan was talking about rebranding the payments as welfare programs. Because look, Jake, that is not what US law requires US law does not say. Well, as long as they spend the money on something that they call welfare, or even that we define as humanitarian. It's okay. No, that's not what the law says the law says as passed by a bipartisan majority and signed into law by Pres. trumpet says that the Secretary of State in this case Anthony Lincoln must certify that the payments to Terrace. So even if they're using the money that we give them for another purpose. J if they're using other portions of their budget for payments to terrorist that still triggers this law so if we want to see what conversations are happening. I think that's one of the questions we would ask who they are is talking about this and have there been discussions about does a rebranding circumvent US law and NJ just just one other point. If those conversations have been happening inside the State Department talking about how to circumvent US law that in and of itself is a big problem yet will.

That's why I think that we need to find out. We do need to find out because of what they're trying to do is to reset a recently restart negotiations and relations with the Palestinians. By circumventing the Taylor force action giving aid and you know this fact that you will mentioned are produced. Yesterday, Samantha power you know is going to be the head of USAID and I know what she's going to do when she's confirmed the figure out ways to circumvent American law and to get aid to the Palestinians and in contravention of the of American law that's inevitably going to happen.

She's a master at that because all these Obama players that have not come back into what they are now insisting on calling by the way, the Biden Harris administration is a directive that leaked out about assignment that that this pricing pushing that Harris had to so that she you know is is is for the future. But this is exactly what they're trying to do is to circumvent the law and we need to find out about it and I agree with you that would be a way to do it.

Always look back at me. Generally, from point is look back on previous statements that were made, but when you do that.

We know there's some discussion going on now so getting it now and that's putting them on notice that were aware of what's going on here and Taylor force was a student at Vanderbilt West and West Margaret Army officer.

A real real tragedy and it was one of those tragedies that DC brought people from both parties together to take a stand on this. I was telling Andy during the break we have had more progress with Arab-Israeli peace in the last 23 years and we've had in my entire lifetime and they are about to throw the whole thing in the trash because the pelleting as it made it very clear.

Decades of corruption, decades of support for terrorism.

Decades of ignoring the plight of the poor Palestinian people and finally we started taking concrete action that not only you know made sense for for America for national security and for Israel but even the Arab nations and the Gulf states realize to two very important things ran is their biggest threat, not Israel, and secondly the Arab nations were tired of the intransigence of the Palestinian Authority and decided they'd also had enough and so all of these policies came together in work in brand-new ways.

It appears that the buy demonstration is getting ready to reverse all of that so many at the irony of this is that you get. You said west of the progress that's been made in the last couple of years with the noblesse oblige of the trumpet ministrations of the work they worked on for four years was was unbelievable that was with the Golan Heights recognizes his religion with tremor.

That's with the move of the recognition of Jerusalem as the eternal capital of the Jewish state of Israel all that takes place and you have the Abraham a court on top of that now. Jordan and I have been to the Palestinian Authority's area deafened by what were some of the Palestinian Authority with some of the Palestinian people.

This is their government.

If you want to call it that because we went through the refugee camps which are now 4050 and 60 years old yeah needs crumbling infrastructure and you realize that they receive so much money for so few people to be very easy to it to make it look like anywhere LCC in the Middle East, which is moving separate entity would do anything that a dirty business or dinner. That's how much foreign aid comes in. We know the corruption at foreign aid is always a problem is a significant problem when you're dealing with terrorist who are leading governments and they bill bureaucracies, but they siphon off for themselves. They're all super rich super wealthy and and so they have an interest in. They said okay we can lose the funding from the US. They were like begging at the US that the table sale might work in a fall apart.

You lose everything because it was coming in from everywhere else in the world still is so US was try to take a stand. Through our laws are to admit still on the books, but I do want a phone because I think Julie's guy is a call to Betty Ron as well. I think it ties it together Julie welcome secular on their hearing you talk about Paul find it definitely cut my question about Iran but because it did matching challenge. I got my $1400 stimulus and I'm going to get 10% of that field. Today we really appreciate that.

Thank you very much is becoming twice that for us. So that's great. We appreciate that okay with John Kerry and administration right now but I'll find what people think about this for America.

Did they seriously think Iran is not going to develop nuclear weapons toward America or what you think. What goal in helping Arab nations against Israel and against the United States, Iran specifically say take the Arab world and back to Ron specifically is Persian and very much isolated from those countries now that they used to do business with. Even though they didn't like each other but now because the Abraham records and other ideas. Heights made it more difficult for Iran which is good for our allies, not just Israel but other allies, the Middle East is about saving a legacy to this goes back to the Obama legacy.

The only thing he really did with foreign policy was this nuclear deal, which the Senate I mean I we could have explained them at the way they backhanded lead said this wasn't a treaty real real. This is the problem is we don't do real treaties. It's very easy just to leave. It was easy for the proper ministration to do it immediately. It was a backhanded play by the Senate, where it's this bizarre if they would get back into it that it will go right back to that that idea where they had to. What was it like 1/3 of the Senate had to support it. Yeah, and if this would've been a traditional treaty submitted to the Senate.

It would've needed a super majority never would have gotten it there in Jordan week we told a pretty hard truth. At that time.

When they brought up a piece of legislation was called the Iranian nuclear review act and that was that there were a good number of Republicans that they joined with Democrats to preemptively pass a law that says if you submit this plan to us, you will automatically be approved unless we reject it. So it turned that super majority on its head. Jordan would've taken a super majority to actually reject the deal. That's not the way the Constitution set it up. That's not the way a treaty supposed to be reviewed. But you're right, the Senate engaged with the Obama administration is for a pack back door facilitated and as far as the caller goes asking about the motive I hundred percent agree with this. It is about preserving the legacy in Jordan it's about taking the United States of America down a notch around the world because that's what they think cooperation with the world is you know I will going back to the Palestinian matter realize how significant this is why we gotta get on top of this, listen to State Department spokesman on net price. This was just a couple weeks back as part of that we are reviewing my presence that you alluded to. We are ensuring that will enable us to fully conduct our complete range of activities including engagement with passing people with the Palestinian authorities and public diplomacy assistance diplomatic reporting. We talked about our commitment to four funding for Palestinians including Palestinian refugees. We are committed.

It's all of the I think you will see concrete manifestations of that going forward including violations of the Taylor foresight to do it.

Yeah, I think they understand that's what this the same as what is really say yeah it will do everything in this is this the place was really speaking to Americans. This was try to talk to the Palestinians that you don't come back to the table. They're all good play like they did with the Obama ministration is the same people. All the same people, same pleasure, so you have to pay us this much to even talk with pay eventually asked to talk and then maybe we'll come up with some really doesn't matter.

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One is Wendy Sherman he's been nominated as Deputy Secretary of State.

She was the lead negotiator in the JCP 08J so another main character on that negotiation coming back into power and the other Samantha power, West mentioned this.

Maybe it was Andy but if she is going to be the next administrator of the USAID J that position has control of the pursestrings of the time of USAID hundreds of millions of dollars so you know that the chief unmask or talk about John Kerry. The chief unmask or is now been to be in the position it a lot. Hundreds of millions of dollars of foreign aid. The problem to get worse day fees confirmed in no doubt about let's take the calls come in, one 800 684 31 test is coming from Montana online to a Kathy walking secularly on their all I people are held accountable and there's some kind of laws they can actually American people can see them live their breaking point. Change the problem is the one law that's on the Jordan raised the point that with the Iranian situation is a lot of sanctions in place and he does a lot of treasury bills in place, not just the Logan act alone and I think some constitutional, but the treasury regulations may well not be but it's we got up we can't work work on. Let me tell you something.

Let's plate reality, the buying administration's Justice Department is not going to bring criminal charges against the these actors that are being conformed to these appointments. So what we have to do we have to get ahead of it. Follow-up what's going on, litigate, when necessary, which will be often coming we already got one organ at the second one you have 1/3 one, and it's not even the end of March. It that's absolutely right.

If you think that the Biden Justice Department under Mayor Garland is going to do anything to prosecute these people or violations of any laws, whether the Logan act is constitutional or not any laws that prohibit trying to negotiate when you're out of office in contravention of the of the law or violate the parent have the foresight to do anything that is a clever prosecution with respect to these people that it's not gonna happen. Stop thinking that it is it is not going to occur, so that should not be the plan of attack that we engage in. Here we have to deal with when we see a policy that's dangerous what's happening. They dislike the Palestinian engagement reset re-re-tool very dangerous for our country and it's our taxpayer dollars. Let's get ahead. Let's find out exactly what they're saying how you do that you sent them a letter demand letter saying we want this information and give it to which they won't, you go right to federal court. We got one filed another one coming up, and then 1/3 one that would be working on starting today, that's how you have families going forward. Folks, there is not going to be with any of this.

I understand the frustration, but there's no special counsel coming in. That's get a look at what was John Kerry doing not going to happen to you but you make it hard for me to do it is difficult because his laws and got to try to figure out how to get around what they Palestinians are going to do, and on the Iran deal. He hit it out it was much easier to leave than it is to get back into the deal so and and to go through that with a different kind of Congress a different makeup of most of Republicans who were there no longer there exits some of them are no longer there and it's a different it's a different Congress entirely and now I think the same thing you have to look of the filibusters try to use one issue that the gun issue was in a divine right to filibuster the right to filibuster with his ex every issue then is that, is there a possibility that that mean that a try. It is worthy to try to do it the way the correct yet again to try J, I mean that's on the table right now there are negotiations happening right now the main hurdle to it has been Sen. Joe mansion from West Virginia.

Kiersten Cinema also says she has consumed some concerns about it but basically J Sen. mansion has since that while I might be open to some reforms where you are converted to the talking filibuster. We have to come down to the floor and able to assess outings from proceeding.

Basically, J that's a crack in the dam that now you mansion saying I'm I'm open to this negotiation so look it's going down the pike. This can be one of the big fights. Listen, I think I think we better prepare for this one immediately because it's not just give Julia*talked about it and I'd looked a little listen to what he said. The question is actually were or get rid of that filibuster of the filibuster you not call something strongly bipartisan in this country with almost 90% of Americans supported yet mainly one political party stands between against it. If it's true that you could pull anything. Should people have access to fishing the way that they they describe these weapons is always like a machine gun.

It's not. You can't buy those I that's that's not the law but the truth is that the American people have to keep electing half the country at least keep selecting the party that he says it believes this with people don't. I mean they these would be an issue that people actually care deeply about, and this is a smokescreen. Unfortunately, using a terrible event to just do away with the filibuster, but they always have spare short-term thinkers of Democrats. I noticed that the short term and they did this with the judicial zone in the present truck made three Supreme Court nominations no filibuster. They got rid because they are Away with every other cabinet level position.

Yes, this will. This is their move Joe mansion. Probably not running again.

He's very much bought off by interest.

So it's where interest groups right now are our moving left.

That's where corporate America's. Right now it doesn't seem, it seems counterintuitive, but they support all these liberal ideas to try and keep their companies afloat so they don't have their me to moments and he's he's in the back pocket of this is a guy about to leave the Senate is about to cash it reveal as Joe mansion in this thing about that what you never know merely almost always lose them if you barely ever stands up for the right thing rebuilding on and there's an arrogance in all of this yet. Eric said his folks were to take action and that means another case, another another situation were on top of that the ACLJ your support for the American Center for Law and Justice allows us to do all this at people like Mike Pompeo and Rick Grenell toward legal teams in a policy team grievance broadcast every single day, five days a week on multiple platforms support the work of the ACLJ in a matching challenge month.

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